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Episode 19 - Kreena Dhiman, Part 2 
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In this episode, I continue my conversation with Kreena. We talk about how her dreams to grow her family after having her first child, Amala, came crashing down after she found out that her embryos were discarded. 

Kreena talks me through her journey of how she found a way to make things work and how her resilience has grown after every obstacle that&#39;s thrown her way. 

Finding an egg donor wa...
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Episode 18 - Kreena Dhiman, Part 1 
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After speaking to Raveen in episode 1, I went onto research more South Asian women who have been passionate about starting a conversation on fertility treatment and surrogacy. 

Kreena has been through breast cancer and heart failure. Despite all of that, she was determined to find solutions to start the family she always dreamed of. As an expecting mother, I had goosebumps listening to Kreena&#39;...
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Episode 17 - My Thoughts On The BLM Movement
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I&#39;m here now and ready to speak up about the BLM movement. It&#39;s taken some time for me to process all the events that have unfolded and understand how I can play a role in this movement. 

After a lot of conversations with family, friends, and leaders who are organizing the biggest BLM movements in the country, I want to use my platform to raise these concerns and I&#39;m here to listen. 

This isn...
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Episode 16 - Armana Rai, Marathon Runner
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Armana is the ray of sunshine you will need to start off your week! It was a conversation I very much needed with all the chaos that we are seeing around us. 
Running in the South Asian community is still seen as a taboo in some parts of India and across the world. We might think that it&#39;s as easy as putting a pair of trainers on and going outside, but there are still so many barriers some wome...
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Episode 15 - Ruby Dhal, Author &amp; Poet 
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Ruby&#39;s Instagram page has been my saviour during this lockdown - her words resonate with every single one of my emotions I&#39;ve been feeling over the last few weeks. We talk a lot about how our mental health has been hit by this pandemic and Ruby also gave me the courage to speak up about how I&#39;m feeling during this time - something I never do on the podcast! 
Ruby&#39;s experience as a writer has al...
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Episode 14 - Anila Dhami, Award-winning Presenter &amp; Producer
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Just like many other journalists, Anila is also working at the frontline and bring us all the breaking news. 
Journalists have an opportunity to change the course of history during this pandemic and reveal the reality of what&#39;s happening inside and outside the walls of the hospital. As a journalist, she talks about how she feels she has a responsibility to help us come out of this as a much mor...
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Episode 13: We&#39;re Having A Baby! 
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In between challenging the government, protesting, and working in the healthcare system during the pandemic, I tend to forget that I have a baby kicking away inside me!
During the last seven months, I&#39;ve learnt a lot of lessons about carving my own path and future. Making any big decision in life will never be easy, and there will be plenty of people ready to impose their judgement but I&#39;ve lea...
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Episode 12: Why I Held A One-Woman Protest
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This is no time to be silent, and this is no time to be scared. There’ll be plenty of time to be silent after all this is over. If I don’t speak up, many more people could die. Many more health care workers could die, and many more children could be left without a mother, without a father. And that’s not okay.
Some say I was courageous, but anything less would be a dereliction of my duty as a d...
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Episode 11: The Reality Of COVID-19 In India - Pia Hazarika
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This is not a case of COVID-19 in India, in the UK, or in China. This is a GLOBAL crisis and we all play a role in speaking up for other humans who have had to face an unimaginable amount of suffering during this time. Pia Hazarika is an illustrator and graphic designer who has a deep knowledge about how the government&#39;s actions have affected the thousands of labour workers in India during this...
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Episode 10: YOUTUBE SPECIAL - Sonam Patel, Mental Health Activist
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During this time in lockdown, mental health has been a big topic of discussion. It&#39;s a crucial time to self-reflect and understand our own thought processes, triggers and coping mechanisms as this can really benefit us in the future when we do get past this pandemic.
Sonam and I discuss how mental health affects the South Asian community and how we can go about having these important discussion...
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Episode NINE: Rahul Puri - Founder, Apne Project.
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Rahul works as a pharmacist by day and has been working tirelessly over the last couple of weeks to make sure all his patients have the medications they need during the lockdown. The exhaustion is different from what he usually feels during busy periods of work, it&#39;s not physical tiredness he is feeling, it&#39;s draining him out emotionally. 
Apart from his work as a pharmacist, Rahul set out to s...
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Episode EIGHT: Tez Ilyas on COVID-19
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Tez Ilyas is a stand-up comedian and worked with Jeremy Corbyn during the UK election campaign at the end of 2019. Tez is such a bundle of joy to speak to, you can hear right from the beginning how he made me laugh - something I needed after a day at work!
But Tez is also very aware of what’s happening to the public, the frontline staff, and within the government. He’s publicly offered to help ...
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Episode SEVEN: The Plight of Healthcare Workers
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This episode will open your eyes to the reality of what healthcare workers are facing during this pandemic and what’s to come in the future. For those of you who may remember Raveen from episode one, I had to bring her back in this episode because like her, many patients are anxious and concerned about their future chemotherapy treatment. 
Psychologists are planning out the next few years on ho...
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Episode SIX - Coronavirus: A Doctor&#39;s Perspective
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We are fighting for you, we are sacrificing our families for you, so please help us.
This week we have no guest, and no script. This one is coming straight from the heart. The last week has been a rollercoaster of emotions and to everyone who has checked in on me, thank you. Now more than ever is when we need to support each other and remind ourselves of the responsibilities we each hold in our...
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Episode FIVE: Jaspreet Kaur, Award-Winning Spoken Word Artist
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Jaspreet Kaur is also known online as Behind The Netra and is best known for her poetry. She has performed all around the UK and her TED talk, How Poetry Saved My Life is what caught my attention a few years ago. Since then, I’ve seen this lovely lady grow and fight for everything she believes in - a huge inspiration to my own work. 
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Episode FOUR - Reena Kaur, World Renowned Punjabi Folk Singer
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My guest this week, Reena Kaur, is a Punjabi folk singer and I met her a couple of months ago at a friend&#39;s wedding and her performance just blew me away. When I researched more of her music, a whole new side of Reena was revealed to me. She isn’t just a singer, she is so much more than that. Her story brought me to tears and her life lessons are ones that you should write down and pass onto yo...
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This week, I spoke to Priya Krishna, an Indian American food writer. She recently released her second cookbook, Indian-ish where she celebrates her life as an Indian American. Priya talks about how she fell in love with her mother’s cooking despite spending her childhood feeling too embarrassed to embrace her identity as an Indian-American. So much so, she would only pack peanut butter and jell...
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Isra Zul is a poet, changemaker and at such a young age, her insight into what it means to be a South Asian woman in our generation really struck a chord with me. We talk about what it means to be a woman in our community and the responsibilities that come with it. Isra also talks about her aspirations as a poet and her dream to write a book based on the common phrase ‘log kya kahenge’ - a term...
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Episode ONE - Raveen Sethi, Cancer Thriver 
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My first guest, Raveen Sethi, is a cancer thriver and in her early twenties, she was posed with a difficult decision of whether she should freeze her eggs as she was receiving heavy treatment for Hodgkin&#39;s lymphoma - a topic that&#39;s rarely discussed in the South Asian community.  
We discuss how her diagnosis first came about and how she has come to terms with dealing with her fears and how she ...
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S1 Ep1: Episode Zero - Welcome To My World!
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Welcome to my world and thank you for choosing to be a part of my journey! For those of you who don&#39;t know me from my previous podcast, Desi Outsiders, this episode will give you a good idea about who I am and what I have to bring you every week. 
If you are looking for an alternative podcast with inspiring and life-changing stories - you&#39;re at the right place. 
New episodes every Friday. Don&#39;t...
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