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15: That was the year that was: health policy in 2021 – with Lord Victor Adebowale and Hugh Alderwick
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In another year shaped by the COVID-19 pandemic, we explore some key health policy developments and look ahead to what 2022 might have in store. 

With Omicron dominating the headlines and a public inquiry into the handling of COVID-19 on the horizon, has government learned – and acted on – the lessons from the start of the pandemic?  

As the NHS faces the huge task of COVID-19 recovery, how w...
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14: Are we seeing the decline of general practice, or its rebirth? – with Professor Katherine Checkland, Dr Rebecca Fisher and Shaun Lintern
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For years public satisfaction with the NHS has been highest for general practice. 

But even before the pandemic, rising workloads and workforce shortages had left many GPs dissatisfied and stressed. Then add a pandemic into the mix, with GPs instructed to move rapidly from face-to-face consultations to telephone or digital advice as a first step. As the pandemic eases, signs of public frustrat...
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13: How can the green agenda help the health agenda? – with Dr Fiona Godlee and Professor Andy Haines
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Climate change is a global health emergency. What can we learn from how ‘green’ has gone up the agenda? And how might we apply useful lessons to getting further improvements in another complex and difficult challenge – improving the health of the UK population and reducing inequalities? 
 

The increasing frequency and intensity of heatwaves, floods, droughts and storms is already devastating l...
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12: The most challenging job in the country: Being chief executive of the NHS – with Sir Alan Langlands
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Being chief executive of the NHS is one of the most challenging jobs in the country. 
 

Since the role started in 1985 there have been nine postholders, with Amanda Pritchard taking over from Sir Simon Stevens this year. Like her predecessors she faces formidable challenges ahead: managing the pandemic’s impact, tackling waiting lists, boosting technology, managing a growing population of olde...
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11: We are what we eat: Food, health and inequality – with Anna Taylor and Sarah Hickey
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Food is crucial to our health, but it is also a driver of ill health, health inequalities, and damage to the environment. 

The second part of the National Food Strategy, led by Henry Dimbleby, was published in July 2021. It is the most comprehensive review of the entire food and drink system in the UK for many years. It recognises the upsides of the food system in providing affordable, conveni...
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10: Low life expectancy in Glasgow, and what to do about it – with Dr David Walsh and Sir Harry Burns
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If you think of health in the UK as a fabric, it is the most threadbare in Glasgow.

Here, life expectancy is lowest, and one in four men will die before their sixty-fifth birthday. But even after adjusting for poverty and deprivation, next to comparable deindustrialised cities such as Liverpool and Manchester, Glaswegians have a 30% risk of dying prematurely. That’s from cancer heart disease s...
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9: Is it time for another Wanless Review? – with Anita Charlesworth and Nick Macpherson
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It’s easy to forget the state the NHS was in 20 years ago – long waiting lists, heartrending delays in care, winter crises – and heated debate on whether the NHS model was obsolete.  

But the Wanless Review set the NHS on course to receive record catch up funding. So in this episode, we ask, given the pandemic and the mounting challenges facing the NHS to deal with a huge backlog of care, is i...
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8: Inside the teen mind: what’s happening to mental health? – with Jean Twenge and Yvonne Kelly
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The pandemic has created profound challenges for young people over the past year – with education, work, relationships and social time all affected.

We also know about the wider economic trends which pile pressure on teens to make it to college to have a better job in the future, and the social trends which might undermine their security as they transition from child to adult. Combined with bi...
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7: Wising up to levelling up – with Professor Diane Coyle and Sir Howard Bernstein
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‘Levelling up’ has become an earworm. It featured highly in the Conservative manifesto in 2019, which was referring to improving infrastructure, skills, productivity and economic growth across the country. The idea is to make the UK economy less lop-sided, and less focused on London and the South East. 

The aim of ‘levelling up’ has gained even more potency because of the pandemic. For those w...
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6: President Biden’s uphill task on US health care – with Dr David Blumenthal and Professor Ashish Jha
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What can the Biden administration accomplish on health and health care in the next four years?
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5: Do we care enough? – with Madeleine Bunting and Professor Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
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We all need care at some point in our lives – yet care is so often undervalued. Why is that? What can be done about it?
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32m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1613952060" data-format="short_date">Feb 22, 2021</span></span>
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32m
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33m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1611273660" data-format="short_date">Jan 22, 2021</span></span>
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33m
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31m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1608595260" data-format="short_date">Dec 22, 2020</span></span>
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31m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1606003260" data-format="short_date">Nov 22, 2020</span></span>
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1603321260" data-format="short_date">Oct 21, 2020</span></span>
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