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Jill and Victor are joined legal maven, journalist, and co-host of the #SistersInLaw podcast Kimberly Atkins Stohr to look at her journey from law to journalism, and the value of knowing yourself and chasing your calling.  They also discuss the importance of the public square and engaging in debate, leaving your chosen media silo, and bringing fact based discussions back to news and politics

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Jill and Victor are joined by renowned author Don Winslow to look at the creative process, the importance of having adventures, and the value of research and education when it comes to writing.  They also discuss the need to escape the madness of the 24/7 news cycle to take action for the future, and break down the threats to democracy and what it means for the world order.

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Jill and Victor are joined by Professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, an expert on the politics and history of strongmen and authoritarians from Mussolini through Trump and Putin.  They discuss how these leaders play to toxic hypermasculinity, and use grievance politics, propaganda, and kompromat to take power and maintain control.  She also emphasizes the need for prosecution and justice, then explains what...
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Jill and Victor are joined by legal maven Barb McQuade to kick off the 1st episode of an ongoing #SistersInLaw series.  They delve into her groundbreaking law career, look at what it takes to win a case using the kidnapping plot of MI Gov. Whitmer as an example, then lay out Barb’s proposed prosecution memo for Donald Trump and review his claims regarding our election laws.

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Jill and Victor are joined by renowned activist and host of “The Suburban Women Problem” podcast Rachel Vindman to look at her life journey and her family’s role in the impeachment of Donald Trump.  They take on the dangers of political extremism, how our national rhetoric heated up beginning with Obama’s Presidency, and the erosion of standards in the public square.

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Jill and Victor are joined by International Humanitarian Law Professor Laurie Blank for a deep dive into the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the applicable international conventions that might hold Putin accountable.  They also look at how the West should respond, and what needs to be done to limit the losses and resolve the international issues spawned by the conflict.

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Jill and Victor are joined by journalist and documentarian Soledad O’Brien to discuss how she found and realized her career in media.  They look at what it was like growing up with a racially diverse background, the importance of sticking to facts and stories relevant to the community over opinion, and how to overcome the manufactured conflict used to divide and capture viewers.

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Jill and Victor are joined by preeminent legal scholar Rachel VanLandingham to understand the role that international law plays in restraining Russia’s President Putin during the war in Ukraine.  They also look at the options the UN has to intervene, if the Geneva Convention applies, and how peaceful nations can take the high ground to prevent conflicts in the future.

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Jill and Victor are joined by host of MSNBC’s Ayman, Ayman Mohyeldin, to examine Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the factors that instigated it, and the humanitarian issues it creates.  They also discuss the way journalism and the West have handled other global conflicts and the war crimes they’ve spawned, and where the international order goes from here.

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Jill and Victor are joined by conservative CNN political analyst S.E. Cupp to look at what it took to build a journalism career starting as a freelancer.  In their conversation they examine the growing polarization across the cable networks and how it feeds into the division and punitive politics used by Trump Republicans.  Are good faith debate and shared facts gone for good?  If they are, how...
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Jill and Victor are joined by Olivia Troye - a former DHS official under Mike Pence who came to support President Biden - to examine the dangers to democracy coming from Putin and the modern Republican party.  They discuss her career path, what it was like working in the Trump administration, the Ukrainian invasion, and how to restore facts and authentic debate to our politics.

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Jill and Victor are joined by security expert Miles Taylor from the Bush and Trump administrations for a conversation about what drove him to blow the whistle on the growing dangers to democracy posed by the Republican politics, the forces driving it, and the changes he’s seen while in government.  Is it possible to restore the party before it’s too late?    

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Jill and Victor are joined by CNN analyst Kirsten Powers for a look at her journey to political journalism and how media has evolved into the combative and opinion based environment we have today.  What led to the shift from fact centered reporting to hyperpartisanship?  And how do we restore good faith and civility to our discourse?  

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Jill and Victor are joined by impeachment manager Rep. Madeleine Dean to share what it was like inside the Capitol during the 1/6 insurrection.  They break down Donald’s pivotal role in it based on his words and attempts to foment disinformation, then highlight the importance of holding him accountable while supporting efforts to protect our voting rights.

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Jill and Victor are joined by journalist Jonathan Capehart for a conversation about finding your way in politics and journalism, how essential it is to have diverse experiences, and the need to chase opportunities.  They also look at the importance of message discipline in governance, and the value of listening and staying true to your values while covering current events.

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Jill and Victor are joined by conservative commentator and author David French for a look at the devolution of the Republican party under Donald Trump, and how good journalism and conservative thinkers can reclaim it.  Will the media be able to focus on substance and reason instead of division?  And are our politics up to the challenge of bringing common sense and purpose back to our country ag...
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Jill and Victor are joined by Congressman from New York, Rep. Mondaire Jones, to look at the dangers to our country posed by a failing judicial system, the undermining of our voting rights, and the insurrection against the government by Trumpists on 1/6/2021.  What policies and practices are needed to protect us, and what will it take for us to enact them?

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Jill and Victor are joined by author and journalist Molly Jong-Fast for a look at her life as a writer, what it takes to make your career, and how she uses the platform to have a political voice.  While doing so, they examine the many injustices and anti-democratic policies and people who have undermined our government and our rights in the Trump era. 

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S1 Ep119: David Cay Johnston
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Jill and Victor are joined by investigative journalist and author of “The Big Cheat”, David Cay Johnston for an examination of the Trump presidency from the reporter who’s covered him the longest.  They break down Trump’s monetization of the office, his history of skirting the law, and whether he and other politicians can or will be held accountable.

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S1 Ep118: Stephanie Miller
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Jill and Victor welcome broadcast sensation Stephanie Miller to discuss her journey from radio into political commentary and the need to let go of your initial plans to pursue your passion and find what’s waiting for you.  They also discuss the perils of the MSM’s 

‘both sides-ism’, and the increasing craziness manifesting in our country– especially in the Republican party.   

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Jill and Victor are joined by author of “Resistance”, WaPo’s Jennifer Rubin to examine the threats to our democracy and the role women play in protecting it.  They also look at what messaging and policies are needed to preserve the growing Democratic coalition, how to create lasting change, and the critical role young people and women have in leading the country forward.

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Jill and Victor sit down with Chief White House Correspondent for ABC News Jonathan Karl to understand what it was like covering Trump after his loss to President Biden and during the mayhem he caused during the Covid crisis and on 1/6.  In light of what we saw in his response to those events, what is the balance between journalism and advocacy?  

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Jill and Victor sit down with former Harvard Law School Dean Martha Minow to examine how we can become savvy consumers of media, the importance of breaking out of our chosen news silos, and researching primary sources ourselves.  Is this enough to restore healthy national debate, reduce the power of big tech algorithms, and protect our democracy for the future?

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S1 Ep114: Randi Weingarten
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Jill and Victor are joined by American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten to examine the effects of the pandemic and increasing polarization on education.  There’s never been a greater need for national cohesion supporting young people, building community-teacher connections, and fighting systemic inequity.  Are we up to the challenge?

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S1 Ep113: Amanda Litman
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Jill and Victor are joined by Hillary Clinton’s Email Director and Run For Something co-founder Amanda Litman to look at the importance of running for office, what it takes to launch a campaign, and how to win-- no matter what office you seek.  It’s the key to protecting democracy, but are the next generation of leaders up to the challenge? Are you?

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Jill and Victor are joined by MSNBC star Ali Velshi to talk about his life’s journey that brought him to the U.S. as a journalist just as our country suffered the 9/11 attacks.  Then, they examine the pressure of our current cultural decisions, and the importance of immigration, supporting refugees, protecting our democracy, and speaking up for our values.

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Jill and Victor are joined by former U.S. NSC official Fiona Hill to discuss the ways deindustrialization and the gender pay gap are contributing to an employment crisis for young people and women.  Is deindustrialization fomenting the grievances and populist politics that fuel authoritarianism?  And can we combine optimism and action to overcome the dangers posed by aspiring tyrants around the...
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Jill and Victor are joined by business maven and founding partner of Elevation Partners, Roger McNamee, for a look at his experiences at Facebook, working with Mark Zuckerberg, and how social media networks challenge our rights and democratic values.  Can we protect the vulnerable from their algorithms?  And what needs to be done to get them working for everyone?

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S1 Ep109: Fmr. DNI James Clapper
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Jill and Victor are joined by former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to break down the importance of recent spy cases and the risks posed by the events on 1/6.  Then, they discuss the need for diversity in our intelligence services and their role in protecting us, before emphasizing the need for public service and defense of the common good.

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Warning: This episode features a conversation about sexual assault and the horrific impact it has on survivors.

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Jill and Victor are joined by Vaughn Feighan, a courageous survivor of sexual assault in the corporate world who resolved to pursue justice.  In this powerful discussion, Vaughn and the iGen team look at the difficulty men face in reporting and prosecuting sexual...
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S1 Ep107: Andy Slavitt
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Jill and Victor are joined by Biden’s former senior COVID advisor Andy Slavitt for an update on the Delta Variant’s effect on our pandemic response, the importance of vaccines, and what it will take to get us back to normal.  Are President Biden’s mandates effective?  And is our country able to come together for the common good?

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Jill and Victor are joined by former NSC Director for European Affairs, LTC. Alexander Vindman for an inside look at the deterioration of democracy and the Russian threat in Eastern Europe.  They also dive into what it was like serving the country during the Trump administration, and what it takes to stand up and take action for what you believe.

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Jill and Victor are joined by congressman Adam Schiff to talk about how we can defend and strengthen our democratic norms after the events of January 6th, solve the problems left behind by the Trump administration, and get our country moving forward again.  His Protecting Our Democracy Act is a great start-- what else needs to be done?

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Jill and Victor are joined by legendary stand up comedian Paula Poundstone for a conversation about creating a career, finding opportunity and creative inspiration, and becoming the master of your own destiny.  She also shares how we can keep comedy and humor alive while our country is still engaged in the fight against the pandemic.

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Jill and Victor are joined by Rep. Jackie Speier to take on the epidemic of sexual assault in the military and find out how our country can bring justice for women and strengthen the culture of our armed forces for future generations.  Then, she shares her experiences at Jonestown and the similarities she sees to the modern cult of Trump.  

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Jill and Victor welcome legal expert and author of “Hatchet Man”, Elie Honig, for a discussion about the role of prosecutors in upholding the law, what to look for in an Attorney General, and how Bill Barr failed us there on everything from LGBT rights to voter fraud.  And after his tenure, how do we restore the standards of legal accountability and leadership our country needs?

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Jill and Victor welcome psychologist and author, Mary Trump, to discuss the toll Trump’s presidency took on our country and what we can expect him to do next.

 

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This is our 100th episode, so who better as our very special guest. 
The amazing Joy Reid host of The ReidOut on MSNBC, for a look at how to maximize and use your education, and what it takes to find success and your voice as a journalist.  Then they take on the issues facing the next generation and how to stand up for your convictions and the rights of others.

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Jill and Victor welcome counter-terrorism and Middle East expert, veteran, and spy, Malcolm Nance for an in-depth look at the situation on the ground in Afghanistan.
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iGen team Jill and Victor bring on Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times talk about journalism as a vocation and to look at the challenges facing the world as we head into the 2020s.  Will we be able to stem the rising tide of authoritarianism that endangers our national security and is violating the rights of their people?  

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iGen team Jill and Victor welcome Deputy National Security Advisor to President Obama, and co-host of Pod Save The World, Ben Rhodes, to discuss reinvigorating a vibrant democratic culture at home and around the world.  And more importantly, the critical role that youth play in fighting repressive regimes, making a difference, and beginning the process of putting peace and people over profits.
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iGen team Jill and Victor welcome back Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, Fiona Hill, for a deep dive into US-Russian relations.  What’s changed during the transition from President Trump to President Biden?  Are we destined to keep fighting the Cold War?  Or can we get the world focused on peace and cooperation moving forward?

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iGen team Jill and Victor welcome former Congressman Joe Kennedy III to ask about his time in Congress, and what it was like representing our country and his family’s legacy.  Was going into office what he expected?  And what does he feel our nation and our young people should be doing to build up our United States and make it the hope and home of everyone who wants to join our political experi...
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iGen team Jill and Victor welcome the legendary host of MSNBC’s Hardball and author of “This Country: My Life In Politics &amp; History” Chris Matthews, to get his take on life, politics and journalism.  From Swaziland to speech writing, he shares the incredible stories of his life, relates the events and experiences that shaped his career, and gives his advice to anyone who wants to chase their dr...
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Jill and Victor welcome activist and educator Brittany Packnett Cunningham for a conversation about taking action and becoming a change-maker.

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Jill and Victor sit with Senator from Oregon, Jeff Merkley, for a look at the current practices and policies holding the next generation back.  

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S1 Ep90: Former SecDef Chris Miller
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Jill and Victor host former Secretary of Defense Chris Miller for an inside look into the insurrection on 1/6 and the DoD’s response.

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iGen team Jill and Victor welcome Valedictorian and viral star Paxton Smith from Texas high school LHHS to discuss her surprise graduation speech taking on her state’s “Heartbeat Bill” and the future of women&#39;s rights.  During their conversation, we find out about her inspiration, her future in activism, what people need to do to be effective in making change-- no matter how old you are or wher...
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S1 Ep88: Judy Woodruff
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iGen team Jill and Victor bring on the anchor and managing editor of PBS NewsHour, Judy Woodruff to examine the changes we’ve seen in the country while she’s been covering it for us.  But despite our nation’s recent division, we have made it through tougher times, and with a new administration and a slowing of the pandemic, we all have a future that is slowly starting to look brighter by the da...
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