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Asa Hutchinson: Why I’m Doing This
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The presidential candidate and former Arkansas governor wants to take the Republican Party in the direction of public service and conservative principles—and away from Donald Trump, who has made it a losing party that is only about him. Gov. Asa Hutchinson joins Charlie Sykes.
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https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/elaine-massacre-of-1919-1102/
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The Drama and Reality of &#39;Oppenheimer&#39; 
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The film captures the race against the Nazis to develop the first atomic bomb, and Oppenheimer&#39;s genius and torment as well. Mona Charen and Sonny Bunch sit in for Charlie Sykes to break it down. *INCLUDES SPOILERS*
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Ep. 4: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham
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After the 2018 midterms, Lindsey Graham moved to a new stage of collaboration with Trump. Graham was no longer just protecting him from accountability—he began helping Trump to usurp power. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan.
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38m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1690223400" data-format="short_date">Jul 24, 2023</span></span>
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Will Saletan: All for the Fan Service
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The dick pics, RFK, jr,&#39;s testimony, and McCarthy&#39;s promise to expunge impeachment records are all for the base. Plus, DeSantis should GTFO of Twitter, the legitimacy of the courts needs to be preserved, and never forget that the ex-POTUS is a RAPIST. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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56m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1689968690" data-format="short_date">Jul 21, 2023</span></span>
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Indictment Day
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Jack Smith will move very quickly on a new indictment, numerous court appearances and trials can be quite disruptive to a presidential campaign, and Trump may have violated civil rights laws by trying to block qualified votes from being counted. Lawfare&#39;s Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1689879000" data-format="short_date">Jul 20, 2023</span></span>
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Miles Taylor: Imagining a Trump 2.0
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Plans are already being drawn up for Trump&#39;s revenge plans in a second term, including special counsels to investigate Trump&#39;s enemies, a &quot;Sue the Blue&quot; DOJ targeting Democrats, and judicial gerrymandering. Plus, Trump&#39;s incestuous Ivanka fantasies. Miles Taylor joins Charlie Sykes.
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https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Blowback/Miles-Taylor/9781668015988
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Tom Nichols: Jack Smith Is Not Screwing Around
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Going after a former president for an attempted coup had seemed like &#39;mission impossible,&#39; but the special counsel is going big. Meanwhile, Republicans defending him don&#39;t seem to care about their country or the Constitution, and the only job Trump could get now is POTUS. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes.
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Ep. 3: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham
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After Trump&#39;s first year in office, the power shifted in Washington. Republicans went from humoring Trump to fearing him. Lindsey Graham surrendered to Trump, and began demonizing anyone who posed a threat to him. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1689618600" data-format="short_date">Jul 17, 2023</span></span>
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Why Are People Still Sticking With Trump After All This?
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Cassidy Hutchinson and Sarah Matthews had gumption, while the grown-ass men who were their bosses did not. Plus, the billion $$$ cottage industry around Trump isn&#39;t backing him because they believe in him, DeSantis should be ashamed, and what it&#39;s like to be on The View. Alyssa Farah joins guest host Tim Miller.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1689366180" data-format="short_date">Jul 14, 2023</span></span>
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Indictments for All the President&#39;s Men?
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Prosecuting Trump for Jan 6 presents novel issues, but that&#39;s not the case when it comes to Giuliani, Flynn, and Mark Meadows—and charges may be imminent. Plus, a grand jury is seated in Georgia, the Oath Keepers may serve more time, and focus groups are reacting to Trump&#39;s legal woes. Ben Wittes joins guest host Sarah Longwell for The Trump Trials.
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Philip Bump: The Self-Disappearing Informant
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House Republicans keep stepping on rakes when it comes to Hunter Biden: Turns out their &#39;missing informant&#39; is a fugitive accused of working for the Chinese government. Plus, Dairy Queen is a red-country restaurant and Trump is still an outsider. Philip Bump joins guest host Sonny Bunch.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/10/trump-iowa-dairy-queen/
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The masculinity contest in the Republican presidential primary ramps up, Chris Christie keeps dropping truth bombs, and the trans issue is the new wall. Plus, Sweden, Ukraine and NATO, and a debate over ending legacy admissions. Jay Nordlinger joins guest host Mona Charen.
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Ep. 2: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham
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Within days of the 2016 election, Lindsey Graham began transforming into Trump&#39;s chief apologist—in an effort to influence him on national security and foreign policy. But to get Trump to stand up to tyrants overseas, the senator soon found himself willing to compromise on rule of law at home. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan.

Read The Corruption...
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How Obamaworld views the weird attempt by Team DeSantis to mimic Ted Cruz&#39;s failed 2016 campaign. Plus, Dems need to stop worrying about Biden and Kamala gaffes, pols like Gavin Newsom need to go on Joe Rogan, and Tim Miller has a world news quiz. Tommy Vietor joins Tim, who&#39;s sitting in for Charlie Sykes on the weekend pod.
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The docs case against Trump is bigger than Snowden&#39;s, the people of South Florida should be cut more slack as a jury pool, and the media is largely ignoring the case of the armed Jan 6 defendant who was outside Obama&#39;s home. Ben Wittes joins guest host Tim Miller for The Trump Trials.
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A.B. Stoddard: Governing Is for Wimps
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House Republicans are racing to the crazy again as they try to nail down who they&#39;re going to impeach. Plus, gaming out why Biden gets so little credit for the economy, and the GOP presidential debate stage may end up quite small. A.B. Stoddard joins guest host Mona Charen.
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﻿https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/07/05/no_matter_who_shows_the_debates_will_bolster_trump_1494...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1688581800" data-format="short_date">Jul 05, 2023</span></span>
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Ep. 1: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham 
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Lindsey Graham was once one of Donald Trump&#39;s fiercest critics—before becoming one of his most important collaborators. His eventual capitulation is really a story about what happened to the whole Republican Party. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan.

Read The Corruption of Lindsey Graham in PDF or Kindle formats at thebulwark.com/lindseygraham
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Mark Hertling: How Dangerous Were the Trump Docs?
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If Trump wanted to impress a memoir writer with classified documents, wouldn&#39;t he also want to do the same with Putin and MBS? Plus, will the US supply cluster munitions to Ukraine? And the nesting doll of dysfunction in Russia. Lt. Gen Mark Hertling joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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TRAILER The Bulwark Podcast Presents: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham
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Will Saletan has a story to tell: It’s about what’s happened to the United States since Donald Trump began his rise to power eight years ago. It’s about authoritarianism in our own country.
But it&#39;s not a story about Trump. It’s about his collaborators, and in particular, one collaborator: Senator Lindsey Graham.
This special summer podcast series will explain what happened to Graham, and how t...
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Trump’s Bravado Defense
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Charging Trump for Jan 6 just got meaningfully harder after a Supreme Court ruling that has nothing to do with storming the Capitol. Plus, Rudy was Queen for a Day, John Eastman loses in a big way, and the end of affirmative action in higher ed. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.
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Seth Masket: Trending Trump
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Grassroots Republican leaders increasingly favor Trump, and he&#39;s getting significantly more coverage on CNN than the other candidates. Plus, when Democrats lose, they tend to move to the center. When Republicans do, they tend to move harder right. Seth Masket joins Charlie Sykes today.
show notes:
https://smotus.substack.com/
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Ben Terris: It&#39;s Not Going Back to Normal
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Why is DC so weird? The Washington Post&#39;s Ben Terris describes his hitchhiker&#39;s guide through the backrooms of Washington to show why normal is not coming back after Trump. Today&#39;s pod with Charlie Sykes.
show notes:
The Big Break by Ben Terris
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687893180" data-format="short_date">Jun 27, 2023</span></span>
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Will Saletan: A Wannabe Coup
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After this weekend&#39;s mutiny in Russia, the world is suddenly seeing Putin in a new light. Meanwhile, America&#39;s wannabe authoritarian goes full martyr, and Chris Christie is making it safe to say Voldemort again. Will Saletan joins guest host Mona Charen today.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687806987" data-format="short_date">Jun 26, 2023</span></span>
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Tim O&#39;Brien: A Clown Rodeo
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The celebrification of running for president continues to grow, Boebert and MTG are a couple of ignoramuses, Schiff gets censured instead of Santos, RFK Jr is a Putin stooge, and Trump is a joke—but the joke&#39;s on us. Tim O&#39;Brien joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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36m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687547579" data-format="short_date">Jun 23, 2023</span></span>
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Trump’s TV Strategy
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Trump keeps undermining his own defense, but he&#39;s not wrong that if he wins, he can make the cases against him go away. Plus, John Durham gets humiliated again, and justice was served on behalf of police officer Michael Fanone. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.
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41m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687458600" data-format="short_date">Jun 22, 2023</span></span>
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Andrew Weissmann: Jack Smith Cometh
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Special Counsel Jack Smith is racing the clock, Justices Alito and Thomas seem to be taking cues from Donald Trump&#39;s &quot;What are you gonna do about it?&quot; approach to following rules, Republicans are against the IRS and gun laws unless Hunter is involved, and Barr&#39;s about-face is way too little, way too late. Andrew Weissmann joins Charlie Sykes today.
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42m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687372200" data-format="short_date">Jun 21, 2023</span></span>
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42m
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Chris Christie: Why I Want to Beat Trump
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Gov. Christie joins Charlie Sykes to explain campaign strategy, his error in judgment in 2016, and how Trump knows he lost. Plus, why Trump voters expect him to join the candidate debates, and the worst manager in the history of the presidency.
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40m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687285292" data-format="short_date">Jun 20, 2023</span></span>
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Will Saletan: Welcome to the Resistance, Bill Barr
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Former AG Barr protected Trump while he obstructed justice, but he&#39;s now staked out a spot in the anti-Trump coalition. Plus, Tim Scott tests out being a hack, Pence lacks self-awareness, and did Merrick Garland self-deter? Will Saletan&#39;s back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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51m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687199769" data-format="short_date">Jun 19, 2023</span></span>
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Tim Miller: A Season of Grifters and Crackpots
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Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has found the sweet spot in the horseshoe— between QAnon-ers waiting for JFK, Jr. and the weirdo, anti-vaxxers in the Dems. Plus, grifting tech bros, the likely malice behind No Labels, and Marco&#39;s relief that Trump is (probably) not a spy. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. 
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44m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686940599" data-format="short_date">Jun 16, 2023</span></span>
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The special prosecutor had his eyes on Trump during the arraignment, but Trump—who seemed tired and resigned—didn&#39;t even look at him once. Plus, what if Judge Aileen Cannon assists the ex-POTUS with his defense? Lawfare&#39;s Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trials of Trump.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686856719" data-format="short_date">Jun 15, 2023</span></span>
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45m
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Adam Kinzinger: The Freak Prom
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Trump likes to convey that he is invincible and has a massive army of people behind him. But he&#39;s scared and deflated. And many in the cult behind him are wanna-be celebs—or were the uncool kids in high school. Plus, the Freedom Caucus revolt in the House. Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes today.
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42m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686767400" data-format="short_date">Jun 14, 2023</span></span>
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42m
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Michael Weiss: Perp Walks and Counteroffensives
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Even after winning the White House, Trump is still the consummate grifter who&#39;s got no time for political correctness or following the law—whether it&#39;s a parking ticket or a federal crime. Plus, the Ukrainian counteroffensive and the dam disaster. Michael Weiss joins Charlie Sykes today.
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44m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686692911" data-format="short_date">Jun 13, 2023</span></span>
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44m
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Will Saletan: A World Series of Whataboutism
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Republicans spent the weekend defending Trump by pointing to Biden, Pence, other ex-presidents, and of course, Hillary. In MAGA-land, he&#39;s always exempt from responsibility. Meanwhile, their excuses could set off a mob—again. Will Saletan&#39;s back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.






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51m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686595419" data-format="short_date">Jun 12, 2023</span></span>
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Listen to the Indictment
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This is a reading of the classified documents indictment against former President Trump that was unsealed by the Justice Department on Friday. Parts of the text have been edited for clarity and ease of listening. The recording was produced using an artificial voice generator.
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52m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686360180" data-format="short_date">Jun 10, 2023</span></span>
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Tim Miller and Bill Kristol: Rally Around the Felon
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Fox calls Trump&#39;s prosecution an insurrection. The GOP shrug off his hoarding, hiding, and sharing of top secret national security docs. But our justice system is working, and the feds are going to perp walk an ex-POTUS for the first time. Bill Kristol and Tim Miller join Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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58m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686343260" data-format="short_date">Jun 09, 2023</span></span>
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58m
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          Wait, Is This Guy a Freakin&#39; Criminal?
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Jack Smith will need a barn burner of a case, rich in facts, and one that holds up under the scrutiny of conservative legal analysts on Fox. Plus, Pence is simultaneously for the rule of law and letting Trump slide. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.
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48m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686257527" data-format="short_date">Jun 08, 2023</span></span>
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A.B. Stoddard: Christie Brought the Hot Sauce
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Chris Christie launched his presidential campaign by calling out Trump—and hit him on the kleptocracy, the hypocrisy, and the lying. Plus, the Freedom Caucus punishes McCarthy, Licht only had an elevator pitch—not a plan for CNN, and the PGA rolls over for the Saudis. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes.
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42m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686163713" data-format="short_date">Jun 07, 2023</span></span>
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42m
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Astead Herndon: Our Broken Politics
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Too many of today&#39;s politicians don&#39;t care that they are undermining their own parties with messages the general public doesn&#39;t support. Plus, the donor class grifting of No Labels, and how the Scott Walker era in Wisconsin prepared us for the Trump era. Astead Herndon joins Charlie Sykes.
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42m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1686076140" data-format="short_date">Jun 06, 2023</span></span>
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42m
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Will Saletan: The Dem’s RFK, Jr. Problem
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Steve Bannon and company are helping give anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy a boost in the polls, Trump gets challenged from the right on foreign policy, Haley is fantastically cynical, and CNN tried to make Trump happy. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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50m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1685989557" data-format="short_date">Jun 05, 2023</span></span>
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50m
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Tim Miller: Normal v Crazy
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It wasn&#39;t like the boring 90s, but politics this week felt almost normal. Meanwhile, Trump&#39;s bleats are getting more demented and DeSantis is all-in on attacking him for fast-tracking a vaccine. Plus, the war on Pride Month. Tim Miller is back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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44m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1685731681" data-format="short_date">Jun 02, 2023</span></span>
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44m
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Lordy, There Are Tapes
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Trump&#39;s own recorded words appear to undercut his already weak defense that he had declassified the documents he took from the White House—and he may have invited a charge under the Espionage Act. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for the latest edition of The Trump Trials.
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46m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1685644376" data-format="short_date">Jun 01, 2023</span></span>
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46m
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Michael Steele: We&#39;re Way Past Kumbaya
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The media thinks the GOP base could still want &#39;Morning in America,&#39; Citizens United is keeping no-hopers in the race, Charlie totally called it on Tara Reade Biden made McCarthy grow up, and MAGA world turns to infighting. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes today.
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43m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1685557440" data-format="short_date">May 31, 2023</span></span>
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43m
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Tom Nichols: Knuckleheads with Flamethrowers
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McCarthy cut a normal deal with Biden when the GOP caucus couldn&#39;t agree on what to demand—beyond just shouting and pounding the table. Plus, missing Brezhnev, waiting for a haymaker, and DeSantis is angry and weird, but not as dangerous as Trump. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes today.
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47m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1685475189" data-format="short_date">May 30, 2023</span></span>
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47m
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Luke Russert: Look for Me There
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In the summer of 2016, on the eve of the Republican and Democratic conventions, Luke Russert—an NBC News star and a scion of media royalty—walked away from it all. Russert joins Charlie Sykes for a special Memorial Day weekend pod to share a story of parental love, loss, and finding your own way.
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Jack Smith is wrapping up his investigation into the Mar-a-Lago classified document collection, and Trump world is bracing for indictments. Plus, defamation, court dates, and the actor playing a human launches his presidential campaign. Ben Wittes and Quinta Jurecic join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.
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David Frum: Losing the Dominance Primary
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DeSantis claims he doesn&#39;t back down, but most of the time, he is flinching and cowering—and now he&#39;s allowing Musk to push him around. Plus, Trump v Kamala, felons can&#39;t vote for themselves in Florida, and the Russians fighting for Ukraine. David Frum joins Charlie Sykes today.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/joe-biden-health-versus-donald-trump-indictments/673989...
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Philip Bump: Running Against Reality
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Reality is Kari Lake&#39;s biggest opponent, Tim Scott is warmly welcomed into a growing candidate field, Biden gets blamed for guns, and younger voters are more likely to vote for Democrats. Plus, did Twitter grave-rob a username for DeSantis? The Washington Post&#39;s Philip Bump joins Charlie Sykes today.
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https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696653/the-aftermath-by-philip-bump/
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Will Saletan: Is Tim Scott Running a Potemkin Campaign?
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Are Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pence really running for the VP slot—or a chance to increase their speaking fees? Plus, Trump is still an extortionist, the GOP&#39;s not a serious governing party, and Fox created the market for the homeless vet hoax. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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The Bulwark: Live from New York
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Charlie Sykes and Tim Miller held court on the Upper West Side Thursday night, weighing in on Rudy&#39;s medical experiments on himself, Disney&#39;s humiliation of DeSantis, Trump&#39;s legal setbacks in his own hometown, and more. Plus, Charlie and Tim play &quot;Name That Musical&quot; for your weekend pod.
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Steve Vladeck: The Supreme Court&#39;s Shadow Docket
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Justice Alito frequently complains that critics of the court are trying to delegitimize it. But it&#39;s the Supreme Court&#39;s own actions—including its late-night, unsigned, and unexplained decisions on the shadow docket— that are undermining the institution. Steve Vladeck joins Charlie Sykes today.

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