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Ben Smith: The Rise and Fall of the Social Media News Age
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The pioneers of the digital media age thought they were building a progressive answer to Drudge—that would help get a Democrat elected in &#39;08. But the architects of the new rightwing populism were also there, watching and learning. Ben Smith discusses his new book, &quot;Traffic,&quot; with Charlie Sykes today.
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A.B. Stoddard: Normalizing Trump Again
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For the first time since 2016, Trump will be back on CNN for a live event. It&#39;s a huge gift to Trump. Will the media once again center their campaign coverage on him—to the disadvantage of the Biden? Plus, McCarthy&#39;s new tone on Ukraine. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes today.
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Will Saletan: The Crassness Is the Point
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Greg Abbott chose to be breathtakingly inhumane, MAGA cancel culture is a runaway train, Biden gets in some good digs, Trump is the biggest victim of all, and McCarthy still doesn&#39;t have the votes on the debt ceiling—just insane demands. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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Tim Miller: Trump Has Already Ball-Gagged Them in the Basement
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Republicans are so weak and craven: DeSantis has three bad weeks, and they&#39;ve thrown in the towel—they&#39;re not even trying to try to defeat Trump. Plus, Disney reminds conservatives they&#39;re supposed to like smaller government, and Tucker is even worse in private. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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The Trump Trials
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State and federal prosecutors may be closing in on Trump, so we&#39;ve launched a new companion pod—in partnership with Lawfare—that will bring you up to speed on the big legal issues surrounding the former president, and key Trumpworld players. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for the inaugural episode.
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Benjy Sarlin: The Bud Light Freak-Out
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Conservatives surrendered on gay marriage, but kept their fear about societal change bottled up. And now a beer is a stand-in for transgender people they want to pretend don&#39;t exist. Plus, Ron DeSantis the weirdo, and Murdoch has zero Tucks to give. Semafor&#39;s Benjy Sarlin joins Charlie Sykes today. 
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Brian Stelter: Tucker Thought He Was Invincible
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Tucker Carlson&#39;s firing shocked the media world and Tucker himself. He thought he could say and do anything. What role did Tucker&#39;s phony Jan. 6 programming play in the rupture? And does his ouster signal a Fox re-set? Brian Stelter shares his insights with Charlie Sykes.
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Will Saletan: How Many Coups Do You Have to Attempt?
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Trump&#39;s negative poll numbers are not high enough, Alito couldn&#39;t get other justices to go off the cliff with him, and DeSantis can&#39;t stop bossing companies around. Plus, hyper-identity politics in the literary world, and the escalation beyond the Second Amendment. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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Tim Miller: Our WWE Politics
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Marco Rubio thinks he&#39;s in office just to send tweets, No Labels couldn&#39;t have picked a worse time for a third-party candidate, and DeSantis&#39; war on woke knows no end. Plus, Fox&#39;s 24-hours of fear and paranoia feeds gun violence, and Charlie Sykes issues a mea culpa to Tim Miller. Your weekend pod.
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Elon Musk says that running Twitter is very painful, but it&#39;s a pain he brought on himself with firings, stunts, and overpaying for the company. Plus, Kara Swisher and Charlie Sykes discuss the art of podcasting, and the potentially much bigger goal behind the expansion of &#39;Don&#39;t Say Gay.&#39;
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The unsettling Dominion settlement, DeSantis is not fooling MAGA, and the &quot;Taliban 20&quot;—who demanded ransom before Kevin McCarthy could become speaker—are now preparing to hold the whole country hostage over the debt ceiling. Puck&#39;s Tina Nguyen joins Charlie Sykes.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681929179" data-format="short_date">Apr 19, 2023</span></span>
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Michael Steele: Confronting the Ugliness
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Oklahoma sheriffs pining for lynching, Tennessee legislators trying to teach young Black men a lesson, and Stand Your Ground turning the innocent into victims: Things feel like they&#39;re spiraling out of control. Plus, even Trump is trolling DeSantis about his Disney flop. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes today.
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47m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681846140" data-format="short_date">Apr 18, 2023</span></span>
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Will Saletan: What Are You Grooming These Kids to Be?
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At the annual NRA meeting, Kristi Noem bragged about her 2-year-old granddaughter&#39;s rifle, while other young kids handled guns. Plus, the GOP is challenged on abortion from inside, DeSantis gets punchy, and Dianne Feinstein digs in. Will Saletan is back for Charlie and Will Monday
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681758180" data-format="short_date">Apr 17, 2023</span></span>
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Dylan Byers: The Media Trial of the Century?
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Dominion v. Fox is not only about defamation—it&#39;s also about the erosion of truth at the network and its impact on our democracy. And with Tucker, Hannity, and Murdoch likely testifying, Fox will also be on trial in the court of public opinion. Puck&#39;s Dylan Byers joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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41m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681497000" data-format="short_date">Apr 14, 2023</span></span>
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Mark Hertling: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Gamer
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The military runs on young soldiers, and sometimes, chatroom braggarts who want to share classified documents get recruited too. Plus, the real world damage in Ukraine from the leaks, and Putin&#39;s paranoia. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Charlie Sykes today.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681411268" data-format="short_date">Apr 13, 2023</span></span>
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John Harwood: Our Cartoonish Politics
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Trump may excel at firing up resentment in the base, but the party is squandering support from an entire generation of young people. Plus, Alvin Bragg sues Jim Jordan, Tennessee&#39;s governor calls for a red flag law, and Missouri Republicans try to defund libraries. John Harwood joins Charlie Sykes today.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681324816" data-format="short_date">Apr 12, 2023</span></span>
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<img srcset="https://audioboom.com/i/40835289/75x75/c 75w, https://audioboom.com/i/40835289/150x150/c 150w, https://audioboom.com/i/40835289/300x300/c 300w, https://audioboom.com/i/40835289/600x600/c 600w, https://audioboom.com/i/40835289/1400x1400/c 1400w" sizes="(max-width: 400px) 64px, 96px" style="background-color: #300e0e; max-width: 96px; width: 15cqw;" class="js-img-bg ratio-square rounded-1" loading="lazy" src="https://audioboom.com/i/40835289/1400x1400/c" />
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Peter Wehner: A Grotesque Leader of a Grotesque Party
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Too many GOP leaders failed to grasp that going along with Trump would increase his hold on the party—and further radicalize the base. Now, the party is being consumed by the monster it created. Plus, Trump goes even further than a mob boss. Peter Wehner joins Charlie Sykes today.
Show Notes
Peter&#39;s Atlantic piece
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681243080" data-format="short_date">Apr 11, 2023</span></span>
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Will Saletan: The GOP’s Abortion Quagmire
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Republicans have boxed themselves in on abortion, Elon continues his petulance, the knives are out in the House GOP, and Lindsey Graham sheds tears for America&#39;s No. 1 TV addict. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1681155120" data-format="short_date">Apr 10, 2023</span></span>
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Tim Miller: Tennessee’s Idiocracy
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The Tennessee GOP lives in such a bubble, they thought it was a good idea to expel two Black legislators, who&#39;ve now become superstars. Plus, the GOP can&#39;t pivot from punitive abortion laws, DeSantis is fighting about the fight, and Trump&#39;s election criminality. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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54m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1680896587" data-format="short_date">Apr 07, 2023</span></span>
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Jeff Sharlet: Scenes from a Slow Civil War
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In the parts of the country where Ashli Babbitt is a martyr, pastors glorify guns, and conspiracies thrive, the anticipation of some kind of civil war animates the far right. Author and journalist Jeff Sharlet sees an America that is unraveling. He joins Charlie Sykes today.
Show Notes:
Jeff&#39;s book, &quot;The Undertow&quot; 
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1680805800" data-format="short_date">Apr 06, 2023</span></span>
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Ben Wittes: The Trump Indictment Is Not Trivial
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Trump&#39;s indictment may be tied to his hush money payments, but it&#39;s also bound up with democracy concerns. If one more shoe had dropped after Access Hollywood, there may have never been a President Trump. Plus, the Dobbs effect continues in Wisconsin. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes today.
show notes
Ben&#39;s Substack: https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1680724140" data-format="short_date">Apr 05, 2023</span></span>
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Tim Alberta: Trump Has an Evangelical Problem
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Trump threw the anti-abortion movement under the bus after losses in the midterms — which prompted a ferocious backlash among evangelicals. He has yet to repair the damage. Apart from criminal prosecution, could the end of Roe end up spelling his political downfall? Tim Alberta joins Charlie Sykes today. 
show notes:
Tim&#39;s Atlantic piece
Tim&#39;s book, &quot;American Carnage&quot;
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Trump always calls for his enemies to get prosecuted and now he&#39;s getting a taste of his own medicine. But will he get to skip the mugshot? Plus, Fox&#39;s horrific day in court, and did 60 Minutes help normalize MTG ? Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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Trump faces a 34-count indictment in New York and more charges may be on the way. But will it hurt him politically, or propel him to the GOP nomination? Adam Kinzinger, Mona Charen, and Will Saletan join Charlie Sykes for the weekend podcast.
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While Republicans frequently overdo it on cultural issues, Democrats still are vulnerable on race, gender, and drag queen story hour. They need to stop denying the issues — or taking the bait and attacking Republicans for raising them. Ruy Teixeira joins Charlie Sykes today.
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Trump&#39;s incitement of Jan 6 and his call to terminate the constitution were treason-like. And the Republicans who won&#39;t renounce him have betrayed the sacred trust Americans have conferred on them. Judge Luttig joins Charlie Sykes on today&#39;s podcast.






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DeSantis gets over his skis on Ukraine, &#39;Don&#39;t Say Gay&#39; escalates, and it&#39;s not racist to criticize the CCP. Plus, the crowd that warns of death and destruction if Trump is indicted said nothing about Trump ripping the country apart. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for your weekend pod. 





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Shelby Talcott: DeSantis Sticks His Toe in the Water
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Michael Steele: Trump Punked Everybody 
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Using a page from his well-worn playbook, Trump framed the narrative about the Manhattan grand jury case on his terms. Plus, the white boy frat party atmosphere at the Tucker Carlson show. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes today.




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Dana Milbank: It’s the Trump Show Again 
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The Republican Party had been showing signs it was beginning to move on from Trump, but now it&#39;s wrapping itself around him once again — because attention of any kind is Trump&#39;s fuel. Plus, a reminder that Kevin McCarthy doesn&#39;t believe in anything. Dana Milbank joins Charlie Sykes today.





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Susan Glasser: Trump 2024 Is Scarier than Trump 2020
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Trump&#39;s rhetoric is more apocalyptic and more confrontational, and the party still can&#39;t renounce its addiction to the man. This is Trump without guardrails. Plus, the long shadow the Iraq War has cast on our foreign policy and presidential elections. The New Yorker&#39;s Susan Glasser joins Charlie Sykes today.
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Trump is crystal clear that he wants retribution against the people who wouldn&#39;t let him remain in office — and he&#39;ll pull us out of NATO too. Plus, DeSantis has no personality and no charisma. Tim Miller is back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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Philip Bump: The Baby Boom Generation Is Winding Down 
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America has long responded to the needs of Baby Boomers, and the generation reshaped the country as it grew older. But now, its grip on the direction of America is starting to lessen, and that&#39;s creating inter-generational tensions. Philip Bump joins Charlie Sykes today.
Show Notes:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696653/the-aftermath-by-philip-bump/
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678991400" data-format="short_date">Mar 16, 2023</span></span>
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Tom Nichols: Our Fatal Complacency
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Pence warned us about the threat to our democracy, and we shrugged. Plus, Bethany Mandel can&#39;t define woke, Fox can&#39;t keep its talking points straight, DeSantis is Trump&#39;s Mini Me, and the despicable elitism of the American right. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678906465" data-format="short_date">Mar 15, 2023</span></span>
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James Hohmann: DeSantis Joins the Surrender Caucus
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Ron DeSantis chose to pander to Tucker Carlson on Ukraine and shows himself as unserious on one of the biggest issues of our time. Plus, socialism for Wall Street and Silicon Valley elites. James Hohmann joins Charlie Sykes for today&#39;s podcast.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678822270" data-format="short_date">Mar 14, 2023</span></span>
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Will Saletan: Pence’s Profile in Half-Courage
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Mike Pence is trying win over the DC press corps but still refuses to do his part to hold Trump accountable for January 6. Plus, the new too-big-to-fail banks, more Fox dirt, and DeSantis is not a natural people person. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678732613" data-format="short_date">Mar 13, 2023</span></span>
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Tim Miller: Be Happy, Make Babies 
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People not having kids because of climate change anxiety are not thinking about a future with Josh Hawley having 100 babies. Plus, sad CPAC, the least charismatic politician among us, and Fox stars in private sound like The Bulwark Podcast. Tim Miller&#39;s back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678478685" data-format="short_date">Mar 10, 2023</span></span>
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Adrienne LaFrance: The New Anarchy
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The largest threat of extremist violence right now is coming from the rightwing. But 100 years ago, it came from the left. History can teach us about how America can survive this new phase of domestic terror. The Atlantic&#39;s Adrienne LaFrance joins Charlie Sykes today.
show notes:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/04/us-extremism-portland-george-floyd-protests-january-6/673088/
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678390860" data-format="short_date">Mar 09, 2023</span></span>
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Matt Gertz: Tucker&#39;s Trump Derangement Syndrome
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Tucker has been dining out on how much the media supposedly despises Donald Trump — when by his own admission, he hates Trump with a passion. And his take on Jan 6 is inherently contradictory: It was Nancy&#39;s fault, but also not much happened that day. Matt Gertz joins Charlie Sykes today.
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Tucker’s Latest Lies
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Tucker&#39;s attempting to white-wash Jan 6, Trump and DeSantis have a thing against prosecutors, Kari says we&#39;ll have world peace again with Trump capitulating to Putin, and Michael Knowles intentionally used eliminationist rhetoric about transgenderism. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1678226014" data-format="short_date">Mar 07, 2023</span></span>
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Amb. John Bolton: I Thought Trump Would Be Disciplined
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John Bolton thought he could create a coherent foreign policy for Trump, but now sees he was naive. Plus, Charlie Sykes asks Bolton about his early defense of Trump&#39;s relations with Putin — and why he didn&#39;t testify during the first impeachment. Bolton spoke with Sykes at the Principles First Summit.
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The base wants the sugar, the fat, and the salt — not someone afraid to say how they&#39;re different from Trump. Plus, DeSantis doesn&#39;t want to face the CPAC straw poll, Trump attacks Fox, and Paul Ryan doesn&#39;t see the world has moved on. Rick Wilson joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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Master interlocutor Mehdi Hasan says come to a debate prepared — bring receipts and know the other side&#39;s best argument better than they do. And Democrats: The heart beats the head almost every time. So, don&#39;t bring a policy paper to a knife fight. Hasan joins Charlie Sykes today.
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Mehdi&#39;s book:
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People over 40 tend to see themselves as about 20% younger than their actual age. Is it because aging is seen as bad — or because they&#39;re optimistic that they have many years ahead? Plus, living with long Covid, and John Fetterman&#39;s depression. Jennifer Senior joins Charlie Sykes today.
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The Georgia jury forewoman needs to stop talking, Norma Desmond took a break from Mar-a-Lago, Charlie and Tim disagree on Roald Dahl, and DeSantis lectures New Yorkers on law &amp; order while the big cities in Florida have a higher crime rate. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
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