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Tim and JVL went live with Tom Nichols and Semafor&#39;s Ben Smith on The Bulwark&#39;s YouTube channel last night immediately after the first GOP debate. Listen to their first take reactions right after closing arguments ended!

Watch the recording and subscribe to the channel to stay up to date on future livestreams here (https://youtube.com/live/MZep4APpcR4?feature=share) : https://youtube.com/live/...
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The gang plays a little game: What are the odds Trump a) Becomes president, b) Goes to jail, or c) Neither? Let us know what you think the odds are in the comments!
Plus, another ignorant country song storms the charts, and Trump apparently DM&#39;ed a lot of people on the app formerly known as Twitter.
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Ever wonder how homelessness has gotten so bad in America? And why there appears to be no successful efforts to solve it? The Atlantic&#39;s Jerusalem Demsas joins Tim and JVL to answer every question they have about this massive problem. It&#39;s a truly in-depth discussion you won&#39;t want to miss!
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Sarah and JVL talk about the politics of Joe Biden’s Hunter problem and the game theory on whether or not Ron DeSantis should stay in the race.
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Tim recounts his trip to Iowa to watch GOP presidential candidates make their weak bids for the nomination over Trump, Including Ron DeSantis, who just replaced his campaign manager. And the so-called &quot;pro-women&#39;s sports integrity&quot; conservatives are relishing the U.S. women&#39;s soccer team getting knock out of the World Cup. 
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Country artist Amanda Shires joins Tim to discuss Nashville politics, abortion (including her life threatening ectopic pregnancy), being a liberal singer in a conservative genre, starting the all-female country group The Highwomen and more!
Plus, Tim gives his thoughts on the latest arraignment of former president Donald Trump.
Find Amanda&#39;s tour dates here: https://amandashiresmusic.com/
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Sarah and JVL talk about the latest arraignment.
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It&#39;s the latest indictment of former President Donald Trump, this time on the most dangerous charges yet: 2020 election interference. What will this mean for the 2024 race? What are the worst defenses of Trump&#39;s actions? Will Trump be put on trial during the general election? The gang breaks down all of this and more on today&#39;s The Next Level!
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Ron Filipkowski joins Tim to talk his journey from lawyer to never-Trump political commentator. Together, they analyze the MAGA transformation of the party they once called home, lambast Ron DeSantis&#39; attempts to peel off Trump supporters, and explain how he balances his day job with his constant tweets on conservative crazies.
Watch Tim interview Ron here: https://youtu.be/0dLxCE86VuQ
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Indictment 2.1 (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
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Sarah and JVL talk about Jack Smith’s superseding indictment, Hunter Biden not getting pardoned, Sarah’s new campaign, and Barbenheimer. It’s a pretty good show this week.
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DeSantis attempts to reboot his campaign with by firing a third of his staff, one of whom apparently made videos with Nazi symbolism. Plus, Kevin McCarthy teases an impeachment inquiry of President Biden, progressives turn on AOC, and a bizarre conservative ad makes it way online.
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Just Say No to Crypto (with Ben McKenzie)
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Ben McKenzie (The O.C., Gotham) joins Tim and JVL to talk his new book, &quot;Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud.&quot; They discuss his investigation into cryptocurrency during the COVID-19 pandemic, pushback from supporters of crypto, finding a fulfilling mission later in life, and his lifelong vendetta with Chad Michael Murray!
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Three Indictments. Zero Accountability. 
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Trump and DeSantis had major interviews last night, and both were consumed by the former&#39;s third indictment yet. Trump doesn&#39;t even need to defend himself with DeSantis repeating all his talking points!
Plus, Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin and former Republican Gov. Jon Huntsman tease with forming a &quot;unity&quot; ticket doomed to fail and put Trump back in the White House. And Mike Pence might not even ...
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How to Beat Trump (with Jen Psaki)
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Jen Psaki joins Tim and Sarah this week to talk what Biden needs to do to win in 2024, whether his age is an issue, her time in the White House, and the transition to hosting her own TV show on MSNBC.
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Secret Podcast Preview: The weird disconnect between the vibes the actual real state of the economy.

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DeSantis DeSpirals Downward
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The key whistleblower the GOP has been touting as a smoking gun against President Biden, along with his son Hunter, has been charged with failing to register as a foreign asset for China. And Tucker Carlson plans to host a forum without Trump. Will it do anything to save DeSantis&#39; floundering campaign?
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You Don&#39;t Gotta Hand it to White Nationalists (with Alex Edelman)
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Hot comedian on the rise Alex Edelman joins Tim to discuss his show, Just for Us, and its debut on Broadway, alongside Judaism, white nationalism, comedy itself, and why he&#39;s the reverse of JD Vance.
Plus, Tim and JVL discuss Hunter Biden&#39;s secret child in Arkansas, and what President Joe Biden should do, both politically and morally.
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Nine Imperfect Judges
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Sarah is back this week to talk all things SCOTUS, as the gang breaks down this year&#39;s rulings and what they mean for the country. Plus, Ron DeSantis&#39; campaign tries to out flank Trump to the right by arguing he&#39;s a bigger homophobe. And is Vivek Ramaswamy in a race for distant second against him?
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Your Sportsballs are Infected (w/ Pablo S. Torre)
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Tim sits down with sportswriter and ESPN Daily host Pablo S. Torre to discuss how sports, the last unifying cultural touchstone in America, has started to be corrupted by polarization. They get into the cringy identity politics of both the left and the right when it comes to athletics, along with some NBA commentary and Denver Nuggets debate!
Plus, Tim breaks down his thoughts on SCOTUS ruling ...
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Europe: What Is Going on in America with Trump? (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
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Bill Kristol sits in for Sarah today and we talked about a lot. What the 2024 election looks like from Europe; the war in Ukraine; Mike Pence; the Republican elites; No Labels; and even some Casablanca.
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WTF is Happening Inside Russia? (Livestream PREVIEW)
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Tim and JVL sat down with Lt Col. Alexander Vindman to breakdown the almost civil war in Russia and what it could mean for Vladimir Putin down the line. Check out The Bulwark&#39;s YouTube channel to watch the full conversation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vVMS2rgaA0
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All the Phonies Hit the Floor (with Joe Perticone)
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Speaker Kevin McCarthy says Trump might not be the strongest candidate in 2024, but immediately walks it back as loyalists rage against him, and DeSantis&#39; poll numbers are pathetic. Plus, Joe Perticone joins Tim and JVL to discuss reporting on the Hill and breakdown new developments with normie Republicans, the Freedom Caucus, and the Squad.
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Ai, Ai, Captain! (with Reid Hoffman)
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On this week&#39;s TNL Sunday, Tim and JVL interview Reid Hoffman, a founding member of OpenAI, aka the creators of ChatGPT. Together they discuss how the future of humanity could unfold as artificial intelligence becomes more and more advanced. They also talk Elon Musk&#39;s venture into politics and the possible reason why he made such a choice.
Plus, Tim and JVL breakdown good Republican Will Hurd b...
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They&#39;re All Running (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
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Sarah and JVL talk about the latest 2 percent candidate and the Pew survey on what Democrats and Republicans really want.
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Admissions of Guilt (with Amanda Carpenter)
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Donald Trump and Hunter Biden both admit they broke the law, but under very different circumstances. Plus, the second part of Bret Baier&#39;s interview with Trump aired last night, and he really doesn&#39;t understand the laws he&#39;s proposing. And what&#39;s up with RFK Jr.&#39;s poll numbers? Amanda Carpenter joins Tim and JVL to discuss and share some special news!
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1687363200" data-format="short_date">Jun 21, 2023</span></span>
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Les-Be-Honest Punditry (with Sen. Tammy Baldwin)
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Sen. Tammy Baldwin joins Tim and Sarah to breakdown her lifetime of firsts as an openly gay politician, her coming out story in the 80s, the art of being both progressive and bipartisan, and an assessment of Wisconsin politics heading into 2024.
Plus, Tim and Sarah dissect JVL’s Triad … without him present!
Watch Tim and Sarah interview Sen. Baldwin here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEitt5q...
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The Iowa Focus Groups Want Them Some Trump 
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A report from the front line of the GOP primary.
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The Real Wannabe Dictator (with Sonny Bunch)
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Donald Trump has been arrested for the second time this year, and GOP voters somehow think he&#39;s the most electable of all Republican candidates. Plus, Fox News calls Biden a &quot;Wannabe Dictator&quot; and Tim takes a victory lap with the Denver Nuggets&#39; championship win. Sonny Bunch fills in for Sarah on this week&#39;s show!
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Daddy Issues (with Ryan Holiday)
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In the lead up to Father’s Day, author and podcast host Ryan Holiday joins Tim and JVL to talk the rewards and tribulations of being a dad. Ryan also talks to Tim about their similar experiences setting aside their less than moral professional careers to pursue more rewarding livelihoods.
Plus, Tim and JVL discuss the second indictment of Trump and the damning evidence against him.
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Indictment: Part Deux (The Secret Podcast)
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Sarah and JVL talk about the big indictment. What it means for the Republican primary. How the Triangle of Doom is operating. And whether there’s any way out of this thing.
The Secret pod is almost always locked for Bulwark+ members but this week we’re making the entire thing available to everyone, because it’s an important moment.
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The Problem with CNN (with Sonny Bunch)
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Sonny joins JVL and Sarah to talk the ouster of Chris Licht from CNN after a devastating profile by Tim Alberta. Plus, Chris Christie and Mike Pence official enter the 2024 primary, the Saudis take over pro-golf, and Marjorie Taylor Greene is becoming more mainstream, alienating her from the other fringe members of her party.
Watch the gang record this episode our official YouTube channel here:...
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Why Aren&#39;t You Angrier? (with Chasten Buttigieg)
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On a special Pride edition of TNL Sunday, Chasten Buttigieg joins Tim to discuss his new book, Josh Hawley&#39;s &quot;Manhood,&quot; Ted Cruz&#39;s Uganda comments, and being a new parent while under the spotlight.
Watch Tim interview Chasten here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=426Tjzws4kI
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Our Kevin (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
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Sarah and JVL go to a perplexing place trying to figure out if the (very valuable) short-term good Kevin McCarthy has done regarding governing outweighs the long-term danger of normalizing white nationalists, insurrectionists, and other assorted crazies.
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More Extreme. Less Dangerous. Equally MAGA.
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Republicans and President Joe Biden worked out a debt ceiling deal where Democrats gave major concessions ... and yet Speaker Kevin McCarthy is still being accused of caving to the libs.
The gang also debates who&#39;s more MAGA: Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump? Plus, Chris Christie appears ready to launch another presidential campaign and Tara Reade moves to Russia.
Watch the gang record this episode...
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The Death of the West Wing Dream? (with Bradley Whitford)
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Bradley Whitford (The West Wing, Transparent) joins the Sunday show to talk The West Wing, criticisms of the show&#39;s idealistic politics, and his own evolution into an advocate for liberal causes and much more!
Plus, Tim and JVL breakdown DeSantis&#39; attempts to shake off the &quot;establishment&quot; label after his presidential campaign launch.
Watch Tim and JVL interview Bradley here: https://youtu.be/6h...
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The Shape of Things to Come (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
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Sarah and JVL talk about the DeSantis launch, his January 6 pardon weasel words, and the norming of soft-authoritarianism.
To get the full episode—and The Secret Podcast every week—join Bulwark+.
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Countdown to the Edgelord Announcement
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It&#39;s all about Ron DeSantis and his upcoming announcement on Twitter Spaces tonight. What does the gang think of the move to launch his campaign with Elon Musk? Plus, a riff on Tim Scott&#39;s inconsequential run for president and a rant on Nate Silver&#39;s Never Trumper critiques.
And tune in tonight on YouTube to watch all your favorite Bulwark personalities react to DeSantis&#39; announcement live! Joi...
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Anxiety vs Reality (LIVE from NYC with Molly Jong-Fast)
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Sarah and JVL are joined by Molly Jong-Fast as part of The Bulwark&#39;s live event in NYC! Tune in to hear several &quot;Are we going to fight?&quot; moments while discussing Donald Trump&#39;s continuous popularity with Republicans, the cruelty of the latest allegations against Rudy Giuliani, and basically ever current and potential 2024 presidential contender. It&#39;s a wild show that you won&#39;t want to miss!
Sub...
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Between Three Ferns (A TNL Livestream)
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Sarah, Tim and JVL went live yesterday during their recording to talk Dem wins in traditionally Republican cities, DeSantis&#39; Iowa trip and his allied PAC walking back criticism of Trump, and the idea that Mike Pence might actually jump into the 2024 race. Plus, the gang takes questions from the audience!
The Bulwark is heading to the Big Apple for a night of politics, laughs and maybe even a fe...
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The Dung Faces of Washington (with David Mandel)
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Director, writer and producer David Mandel (Veep, Seinfeld) sits down with Tim to discuss his new HBO miniseries White House Plumbers and his fascination with the behind the scenes of Washington.
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Next week&#39;s TNL will be streamed LIVE on YouTube on The Bulwark&#39;s main channel. Tune in May 17th at 3 pm EST to watch Tim, Sarah, and JVL record in the same room for the first tim...
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