1011: GOP’s Epstein FREAKOUT! Mace in Tears! MTG Joins the REBELS!
Sarah, JVL and Tim are back! Trump disappears for a weekend and sets off health rumors, Epstein victims speak out on Capitol Hill, and Congress releases “new” files that turn out to be mostly recycled documents. Meanwhile, Trump tries to change the subject with National Guard deployments, a tariff scheme runs into the courts, and GOP leaders flirt with blood-and-soil politics. Get free shippin...
1hr 8m Sep 03, 2025
1hr 8m
1010: Things Fall Apart | Secret Podcast
Another dark week: Trump toys with occupying Chicago, the FBI under Kash Patel ignores domestic terrorism, RFK Jr. runs HHS with conspiracy theories, and even the CDC is led by a political crony. JVL and Sarah Longwell ask the hard question, what if our democracy is already too broken to fix?
26m Aug 29, 2025
26m
1009: Vance is a DORK! MAGA is GAY! Sandwich Man WINS!
Sarah Longwell is back and ready to go! They dive into Trump’s accelerating authoritarian moves, from masked cops snatching people off the streets to purging the Federal Reserve, while Gavin Newsom trolls Trump with meme-style politics that energize Democrats but raise doubts about his 2028 chances. Meanwhile, the DNC looks out of touch, bogged down in land acknowledgments and bad messaging, l...
1hr 17m Aug 27, 2025
1hr 17m
1008: Gavin Goes FULL TRUMP! Tucker DROOLS Over Dictatorship! Trump’s CULT Has COPS?!
JVL, Tim Miller, and special guest Andrew Egger get into the rise of Trump’s cult cops, the right’s open flirtation with Caesarism, and whether Newsom’s new “mean streak” is a weapon or a trap for Democrats. Head to https://greenchef.com/50NEXTLEVEL and use code 50NEXTLEVEL to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months--with free shipping! Go to https://zbiotics.com/NEXTLEVEL a...
1hr 10m Aug 20, 2025
1hr 10m
1007: We Love You, Boomers — Seriously! | Secret Podcast
Sarah and JVL defend the honor of Baby Boomer protestors and debate the merits of anti-fascist sandwich throwing before hunkering down for a loooong conversation about whether Trumpism is a perversion of conservatism, or a fulfillment of it.
23m Aug 15, 2025
23m
1006: PITIFUL GOP Candidate in VA! Goateed LOSER Cooking Books! Leningrad...WHAT?! | Next Level
Sarah, Tim and JVL are BACK! Trump turns a late-night DC fight into an excuse for a full-blown National Guard takeover — complete with a TV personality running the cops. The gang tackles this absurd “Big Balls” pretext, Trump’s upcoming Alaska summit with Putin (and the Billy Joel geography lesson), his bizarre choice of an unqualified weirdo to cook the jobs numbers, and what it all means for...
59m Aug 14, 2025
59m
1005: Trump’s Economy Is Sputtering—Make Him Pay for It!
Bill Kristol fills in for JVL during this extra super secret edition of the Secret Podcast. Trump’s economy is cracking under its own weight—grocery prices, tariffs, and a sputtering job market are chipping away at his support. Could these numbers spell trouble for 2026?
27m Aug 08, 2025
27m
1004: Trump’s Polls Could COLLAPSE! Epstein Cover-Up Keeps ROLLING! Newsom Goes HARD!
Go to https://zbiotics.com/NEXTLEVEL and use NEXTLEVEL at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Tim, Sarah, and Sam talk Trump’s continuing Epstein nightmare, the GOP’s redistricting chaos in Texas, and RFK Jr.‘s disastrous anti-vax decisions. Plus, Megyn Kelly picks a fight with Sarah, Acosta creeps everyone out by interviewing an AI ghost, and conservatives sudde...
1hr 6m Aug 06, 2025
1hr 6m
1003: The Go-Home for Summer Show | Secret Podcast Preview
Sarah and JVL give you the mega-show you’ve been waiting for: Trump’s $200 million presidential palace ballroom! Tariff TACOs! Kamala’s book! Hunter Biden! Vegas, Baby! All this and Sydney Sweeney, too. It’s a super-sized go-home show as JVL heads out for vacation.
29m Aug 01, 2025
29m
1002: ICE Website Goes Full Fascist! Trump’s Personal Army? Epstein Excuse Blows Up!
Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller and JVL discuss the recent ICE job postings. These listings describe positions for “Deportation Officer”, "Criminal Investigator" and "General Attorney". They suggest this is part of a broader strategy to staff a loyalty-vetted enforcement agency with little oversight or transparency. Then back to Epstein, who “stole” a 16-year-old girl from a Mar-a-Lago Spa, to work...
1hr 10m Jul 30, 2025
1hr 10m
1001: Evil Is As Evil Does | Secret Podcast
Sarah and JVL talk about Hulk Hogan, MAGA’s coming pivot on Ghislaine Maxwell, and Derek Huffman, the MAGA dad who joined Putin’s war on Ukraine. And the new Superman movie, too. It’s a doozy. This is a special preview of an episode that’s JUST for paid Bulwark subscribers. If you’d like to hear the full episode, you can subscribe via thebulwark.com (http://thebulwark.com/) , YouTube, or righ...
27m Jul 25, 2025
27m
1000: Trump Spooked! Oval Office Barf! Gen-Z Goes Full Fascist!
Celebrate the chaos with Sarah, Tim and JVL! Trump panics over Epstein revelations and demands Barack Obama’s arrest for “treason,” sending MAGA into conspiracy-theory overdrive. Republicans literally flee Congress to avoid tough votes, Jerome Powell’s Fed independence hangs by a thread, and Gen-Z conservatives openly embrace fascism as their new ideology. Meanwhile, Trump’s Oval Office gets a ...
1hr 6m Jul 23, 2025
1hr 6m
999: Like a Rat in a Trap | Secret Podcast Preview
Sarah and JVL break down the WSJ Trump-Epstein story. Sarah has some rage and JVL has a brand new conspiracy theory involving JD Vance. This is a special preview of an episode that's JUST for paid Bulwark subscribers. If you'd like to hear the full episode, you can subscribe via https://thebulwark.com, YouTube, or right through Apple Podcasts!
19m Jul 18, 2025
19m
Epstein Scandal Keeps Shaking Trumpworld
Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell and JVL debate whether Trump’s reaction to the Epstein files, calling it a “hoax” and lashing out at former supporters, marks a turning point. They explore whether this could crack the deep trust his base has in him, especially conspiracy-driven voters who saw him as the one to expose elites. They also argue Democrats should lean into the issue, pushing for hearings ...
1hr 5m Jul 16, 2025
1hr 5m
Elon’s Bot Goes Full Bigot! Trump’s Tariff Tantrum! Epstein Files “Vanish”
Trump fumbles through a chaotic cabinet meeting, announcing new tariffs and cluelessness to the Ukraine weapons pause. Meanwhile, MAGA world erupts over the Epstein files, Grok turns into a bigoted chatbot, and ICE has transformed into Trump’s personal police force. Special guest Sam Stein joins Sarah and JVL to discuss yet another wild week. show notes  Will Sommer’s False Flag “MAGA World’s ...
1hr 14m Jul 09, 2025
1hr 14m
The Next Level LIVE: Chaos, Cowards, and Alligator Alcatraz
Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, and JVL break down the latest news. On today’s show, we will be covering the House vote on Trump’s fugly bill, ICE expansion, and the cowards at Paramount. Get 10% off your first month with BetterHelp at https://BetterHelp.com/THENEXTLEVEL. (https://BetterHelp.com/THENEXTLEVEL) To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/THENEXTLEVEL (http://nakedwi...
1hr 6m Jul 02, 2025
1hr 6m
The Next Level LIVE: McConnell’s Threat, Mamdani's Big Win and Iran
Watch Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, and JVL break down the latest news. On today's show, we will be covering Mitch McConnell's threats, the Iran war, and the New York City mayoral primary results. For a limited time only, get 60% off your first order PLUS shipping when you head to https://Smalls.com and use code THENEXTLEVEL Go to https://zbiotics.com/NEXTLEVEL and use NEXTLEVEL at checkout for...
1hr 13m Jun 26, 2025
1hr 13m
Can Trump TACO His TACO?
Tim, Sarah, and JVL discuss Trump continuing to TACO causing increasingly slipping support, more Democrats getting arrested over immigration policies, the mixed feedback from Tim’s interview with NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani on FYPod, and Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz’s heated conversation. Show Notes Arrest of NYC Comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander (https://youtu.be/EqRkJgxkp...
1hr 28m Jun 19, 2025
1hr 28m
Un-American! Sarah/Tim/JVL Rage On Week of Hell
The gang discuss Trump’s extreme response to protests in L.A., his unsettling rally to a cheering military crowd, and the upcoming birthday parade. Also: Elon Musk’s 3am apology, RFK Jr. dissolving the vaccine board, and Mikie Sherrill’s primary win. Go to https://zbiotics.com/NEXTLEVEL and use NEXTLEVEL at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Get 15% off OneSkin...
1hr 22m Jun 11, 2025
1hr 22m
MAGA is Imploding in Real Time
Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell and JVL discuss the Elon Musk and Donald Trump breakup thats amplifying throughout all of MAGA, how the primaries for New Jersey governor and New York mayor could shape the future of both parties, Joni Ernst’s comments on everyone dying show how much MAGA is losing their minds, and Curtis Yarvin’s dangerous influence. For an extra 25% off your order and a special gif...
1hr 8m Jun 04, 2025
1hr 8m
Live in Chicago! Pardons, Authoritarianism, and Xanax
Live from Chicago, Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, and JVL break down the latest wave of Trump pardons, the rising authoritarian behavior from GOP leaders, and the Democratic Party’s identity crisis. Also, who is the worst (and best?) cabinet member so far, and what comes next. To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/THENEXTLEVEL (https://www.nakedwines.com/THENEXTLEVEl) and us...
1hr 6m May 29, 2025
1hr 6m
If Only It Were Opposite Day
The gang discusses the incompetence of Kristi Noem on constitutional matters, Bernie Sanders’ views on the Democratic party, Joe Biden’s campaign mismanagement, the Republican tax bill, and Tesla’s business struggles. Listen now to the NPR Politics Podcast, only from NPR – wherever you get podcasts. Go to Hungryroot.com/THENEXTLEVEL (https://www.hungryroot.com/?promo=THENEXTLEVEL&b=2210&utm_s...
1hr 15m May 22, 2025
1hr 15m
Trump's Dictator Erotica
The gang discuss the extensive corruption of President Trump's Middle East business dealings,  Republicans' focus on state and local tax deductions while letting democracy burn, and the latest revelations on former President Biden old age in office. Go to zbiotics.com/NEXTLEVEL (https://zbiotics.com/pages/am-nextlevel) to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use NEXTLEVEL at ch...
1hr 16m May 15, 2025
1hr 16m
Beta Trump
The gang talk the latest on President Trump’s obsession with owning Canada and Greenland, new Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s based first meeting in the White House, the administrations cruel immigration agenda, and DOGE’s complete failure. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code THENEXTLEVEL at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Go to Quince.com/thenextlevel (http://quince.com/thenextlevel)...
1hr 13m May 08, 2025
1hr 13m
100 Days of Damage
The gang bask in the utterly abysmal first quarter of President Trump’s second presidency. Plus, they react to Gretchen Whitmer and Hakeem Jefferies not understanding the authoritarian moment we’re in, and advise Democrats how they can capitalize on just how unpopular Trump will be come 2028. To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/THENEXTLEVEL (http://nakedwines.com/THENEX...
1hr 20m Apr 30, 2025
1hr 20m
Panic! At The Dow Lows
The gang break down the latest developments in the market, and how it’s sent the Trump administration into panic mode. Plus, Trump loses grounds in new immigration polling, Tesla might be unsalvageable, and Pete Buttigieg takes on the manosphere. Buy tickets to our live shows in Chicago (May 28) and Nashville (May 29) here: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/chicago-and-nashville-here-we-come Liste...
1hr 5m Apr 23, 2025
1hr 5m
The Fight Trump Has To Lose
The gang dive into the constitutional crisis as President Donald Trump refuses to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, against the ruling of SCOTUS, Democrats planning a trip to El Salvador to demand the Maryland man's release, Harvard University's refusal to fold to Trump's defunding threats, and Elon Musk's continually disturbing mission to impregnate different women.
1hr 5m Apr 16, 2025
1hr 5m
The Damage Can't Be Undone
Trump has no idea what he’s doing, and America’s financial standing in the world, as well as the security that comes with it, is forever diminished. Note: Today’s episode of TNL was recorded before President Trump rescinded some of his tariffs, which the GOP then claimed was part of his brilliant plan all along. We think this commentary on the chaos, economic uncertainty and long term conseque...
56m Apr 09, 2025
56m
What a Stupid, Stupid Day This Is
The gang discuss President Donald Trump's ridiculous "Liberation Day" declaration and the foolish harm his tariffs will cause, the results of yesterday's Wisconsin election, Sen. Cory Booker's new filibuster record, and more!
58m Apr 03, 2025
58m
The Incompetence In This Administration Is STAG-GER-ING!
Sam Stein fills in for Sarah to talk the continued fallout of the Trump administration’s signal group chat, with newly released texts detailing the “attack plans.” Plus, Tesla’s brand disintegration continues and Vice President JD Vance gets roped into accompanying his wife, Usha, to Greenland. Go to Hungryroot.com/THENEXTLEVEL (https://www.hungryroot.com/?promo=THENEXTLEVEL&b=2210&utm_source=...
49m Mar 26, 2025
49m
All the Ways Trump Is a B*tch
The gang discuss President Trump’s bonkers interview with Laura Ingraham, his obsession with making Canada the 51st state, his call with Vladimir Putin, Federal Trade Commission firings, and how Sen. Chuck Schumer is not meeting the moment as Minority Leader. Plus, what happens when Bad JVL meets Bad Tim & Sarah? For 50% off your first order, head to Smalls.com (https://www.smalls.com/) and u...
49m Mar 19, 2025
49m
We're All His Enemies
The gang's all in person this week! They talk the state of the stock market, President Trump's expected invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, the arrest of Columbia University protestor Mahmoud Khalil, Gov. Gavin Newsom's new podcast, Pete Buttigieg announcing he won't run for Michigan's open Senate seat, and more! Shop plans at MINTMOBILE.com/thenextlevel (https://www.mintmobile.com/?utm_sourc...
59m Mar 14, 2025
59m
Trump's Economy In Peril
The gang break down the administration’s shameful abandonment of Ukraine, and speak to how our allies can no longer trust the United States They also discuss Trump’s joint address to Congress, Sen .Elissa Slotkin’s response, Gavin Newsom’s new podcast, whether tariffs will actually stick around this time, and Sen. Lindsey Graham “joking” about Trump 2028. Get tickets for our live Phoenix show...
1hr Mar 06, 2025
1hr
Da Bomb Threat Beyond Insanity
The gang break down the bomb threat they experience at the Principles First Summit. They also discuss the White House announcing they’ll decide which journalists are in the press pool, the access Elon Musk now has to the government’s data, the House GOP’s budget resolution, and how some MAGA voters are angry DOGE eliminated their jobs. Eat smart with Factor. Get started at FACTORMEALS.com/FACT...
54m Feb 26, 2025
54m
America's Villain Era
The United States is one of the bad guys now, with Donald Trump publicly calling Ukrainian President Zelenskyy a dictator. The gang react to the idea of America as a hero in the world shattering before their eyes. Plus, Elon Musk does a joint interview with Trump on Hannity and The Free Press’s Bari Weiss pisses her MAGA following off by lightly criticizing far-right. Thrive all year with cle...
1hr 10m Feb 19, 2025
1hr 10m
The DOGE Days Are Far From Over
The gang react the startling deterioration of our government under Elon Musk’s shadow presidency, and question what hold Musk has over Donald Trump that’s preventing Trump’s ego from firing him. When will the negative impact of DOGE be felt my the electorate that put Trump back into office? And will they just blame Democrats? Plus, inflation is up again under Trump and the White House goes aft...
47m Feb 12, 2025
47m
Boom, Roasted
We’re two and a half weeks into the second Trump administration, and it already feels like a century has passed. All of Donald Trump’s nominees are getting confirmed, and Elon Musk is taking a chainsaw to our government institutions. The gang rip apart Trump, Musk, the GOP, the bad billionaires, and the “Uncommitted” movement in this super-sized episode! Get 15% off OneSkin with the code THENE...
1hr 16m Feb 06, 2025
1hr 16m
An Unbearable Farce
The gang went live Wednesday night to discuss RFK Jr.’s Senate hearing, the farce that was the questioning from Republicans, Trump’s funding freeze debacle, the first White House press briefing, and whether any of these things matter one bit. Eat smart with Factor. Get started at FACTORMEALS.com.thenextlevel50off and use code thenextlevel50off to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping
1hr 18m Jan 30, 2025
1hr 18m
He's Back
Donald Trump has been sworn in as the 47th president of the United States. The gang react to his first three days, the resigned vibe from Democrats, the capitulation from Republicans over Trump’s sweeping Jan. 6 pardons, and Trump’s flurry of executive orders, which some (Tim) might describe as a bukkake. For 30% off your order, head to GetSoul.com (https://www.getsoul.com/) and use code THENE...
1hr 6m Jan 22, 2025
1hr 6m
Michelle Obama Knows What Time It Is
The gang discuss the hearings for Pam Bondi and Pete Hegseth and the changes of "norms" in Joe Biden's final week in office, as Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Musk prepare for Donald Trump's inauguration that Michelle Obama has decided to skip, plus the TikTok ban that could really happen. Head to FACTORMEALS.com/thenextlevel50off and use code thenextlevel50off to get 50% off your first box plus free ...
1hr 14m Jan 15, 2025
1hr 14m
Aileen Cannon's SCOTUS Audition
The gang discuss Aileen Cannon continuing to be a completely stooge for Donald Trump by ordering Merrick Garland not to release Jack Smith’s report on the incoming president. They also unpack President Joe Biden’s latest interview and Trump’s insane desires to bring Canada and Greenland into the United States. Get 15% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com/nex...
58m Jan 08, 2025
58m
They're Already Tearing Themselves Apart
The gang discuss the GOP’s plans to investigate Liz Cheney, Elon Musk potentially causing a government shutdown before Donald Trump’s new term has even begun, and Bret Stephens renouncing the Never Trump title. Head to FACTORMEALS.com/50thenextlevel (https://www.factor75.com/pages/podcast?c=50THENEXTLEVEL&mealsize=8-1&c_comms=PERCENT&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=cpm&utm_campaign=podcast50off&...
59m Dec 18, 2024
59m
This Is How They Get Away with It (The Secret Podcast Preview)
Sarah and JVL have a loooong talk about RFK and vaccines and collateral damage. One of them might be a heartless monster and you’ll never guess which one! Then they do a full after-action report on Sarah’s DealBook panel. You do not want to miss this part. It’s solid gold. And we’d like your thoughts on Sarah’s big question. Discuss in the comments. Want to hear the whole thing? Full, ad-free...
28m Dec 13, 2024
28m
The Worst Is Yet to Come
The gang talk Sen. Joni Ernst folding to MAGA on Pete Hegseth’s nomination, Donald Trump already acting like president, the shocking amount of support for alleged murderer Luigi Mangione, and Kimberly Guilfoyle getting offered Ambassador to Greece amid her breakup with Donald Trump Jr. Dealbook Summit audio (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-2024-elections-what-happened-and-whats-next/...
58m Dec 11, 2024
58m
Sorry to Pierce Your Bubble
Sarah joins Tim and JVL fresh off a heated panel at the Dealbook Summit with Kevin McCarthy, Kellyanne Conway, Anita Dunn and more. The gang also discuss Pete Hegseth’s potentially doomed nomination for Secretary of Defense, the possibility of Ron DeSantis replacing him, Lara Trump becoming the senator for Florida, and Donald Trump’s concepts of a plan to end the war in Ukraine. Get 25% off, p...
1hr 3m Dec 05, 2024
1hr 3m
Trump's Mess with the Cranks
Donald Trump won by aligning with cranks like RFK Jr. Should the Dems follow suit to win? Plus, Rep. Nancy Mace’s bullying of her new trans-coworker and the latest ridiculous picks to join the Trump administration. Sam Stein fills in for Sarah on today’s episode! Head to http://lumen.me/THENEXTLEVEL for 15% off your purchase. Head to GetSoul.com (https://www.getsoul.com/) and use code THENEX...
1hr 1m Nov 20, 2024
1hr 1m
Trump 2028?
The gang discuss Donald Trump's "joke" to the House GOP that it's possible he'll run for a third term. Plus, Trump's insane Cabinet nominees, the mistakes of Merrick Garland and Elon Musk's weird, and potentially doomed, relationship with Trump. Go to greenchef.com/nextlevel50 (https://www.greenchef.com/pages/podcast?c=NEXTLEVEL50&mealsize=3-2&c_comms=PERCENT&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=cpm&...
56m Nov 13, 2024
56m
Born From Anger
It’s been three days since Donald Trump beat Vice President Kamala Harris to be our 47th president. The gang attempts to start to unravel the question of what the Democratic Party must do to win working class voters, and debate what type of insanity we should root for from a second Trump term. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code THENEXTLEVEL at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Go to zbiotics...
55m Nov 08, 2024
55m
The Finish Line (The Secret Podcast Preview)
Sarah and JVL have a lot of thoughts about Trump’s threat against Liz Cheney, Larry Hogan’s latest, and the refusal of some leaders to get off the sidelines. Also about J-Lo and Hustlers. Which is a wildly under-rated movie. Want to hear the whole thing? Full, ad-free episodes of the Secret Podcast are available exclusively to Bulwark+ members. Sign up here: https://www.thebulwark.com/subscribe
22m Nov 01, 2024
22m
This Is It
The gang assemble for their last official episode before the election on Tuesday. They give their final thoughts on where the race is at, alongside discussion on the closing arguments of both candidates and President Joe Biden’s gaffe last night. This holiday season, give the gift of Soul. Head to GetSoul.com (https://www.getsoul.com/) and use code THENEXTLEVEL for 30% off your order.
57m Oct 30, 2024
57m