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S5 Ep9: Unresolved COVID Trauma (with Dr. Leana Wen)
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Five years ago this week, the Covid pandemic came to the U.S., and with it a level of suffering and distrust of authority (and each other) we haven&#39;t fully reckoned with. 
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S5 Ep8: Free World &#39;Family Meeting&#39; (with Tommy Vietor)
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What do remaining pro-Ukraine Republicans think of America&#39;s role in the world? Tommy Vietor joins Sarah to discuss the future of foreign policy in Trump 2.0.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1741431600" data-format="short_date">Mar 08, 2025</span></span>
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S5 Ep7: Raw Audio: Guys Being Dudes
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We&#39;re doing something different this week: We&#39;re giving you nearly an hour of audio from a recent focus group of men aged 18-29 who voted for Donald Trump in 2024.
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S5 Ep6: Will the Real POTUS Please Stand Up? (with Kara Swisher)
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Legendary tech reporter and Musk-whisperer Kara Swisher joins the show to discuss Musk&#39;s MAGA character arc and what his real motivations are with DOGE.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1740222000" data-format="short_date">Feb 22, 2025</span></span>
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S5 Ep5:  &#39;I&#39;m All For Deportations, But...&#39; (with Adrian Carrasquillo)
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Plenty of Trump&#39;s newest voters wanted him to fix the border and deport criminals. Some are excited by what they&#39;re seeing, and some are getting more than they bargained for. Adrian Carrasquillo joins Sarah to discuss voter reactions, and the latest developments in Trump&#39;s immigration regime. 
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S5 Ep4: Winners Make Policy, Losers Go Home (with Adam Jentleson)
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Where do Democratic voters want the party to go next? And how does the party need to be thinking differently? Adam Jentleson joins Sarah to discuss new ways to campaign and govern, as the party looks toward 2026 and 2028.
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S5 Ep3: At Least He&#39;s Doing Something (with Sam Stein)
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The voters in our focus groups are glad to see Trump &quot;taking action.&quot; Sam Stein joins Sarah to talk about voters&#39; reactions to his flurry of executive orders and how long his &quot;honeymoon&quot; may last.
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S5 Ep2: Getting Out of Our Corners (with Amanda Carpenter)
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Bulwark alum Amanda Carpenter of Protect Democracy joins Sarah to talk about what we should (and should not) be focused on over the next four years.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1737802800" data-format="short_date">Jan 25, 2025</span></span>
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S5 Ep1: The Caretaker Presidency (with Evan Osnos)
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As Joe Biden leaves office, we&#39;re taking one last look at his presidency, and what we&#39;ve heard said about him since 2020. 
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S4 Ep62: It&#39;s Not Like a Newscast (with Tim Miller)
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The podcast-sphere was one of the most covered election stories. Sarah and Tim turn over why the medium appeals to the newest Trump voters—and specifically Rogan fans.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1734778800" data-format="short_date">Dec 21, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep61: Hate Was Up, Prices Were Down (with Marc Caputo)
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We&#39;ve discussed what Trump&#39;s newest voters found wanting about Democrats in &#39;24. This week, we turn our attention to their affirmative case for Trump.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1734174000" data-format="short_date">Dec 14, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep60: An &#39;Unserious&#39; Show (with Jonathan V. Last)
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We&#39;ve got (Thanksgiving) leftover focus group sound we didn&#39;t get to last week. JVL returns to parry with Sarah over whether this is a serious country still. 
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We&#39;re back for a post-election autopsy, starting with a deep dive on how Trump&#39;s newest voters found Kamala and the Democrats lacking.
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S4 Ep58: How [He/She] Wins (with Ron Brownstein)
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Whatever happens, the focus groups over the last year-plus have given clues about what&#39;s motivating the swing voters for Trump, and those voting for Harris.
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S4 Ep57: Keystone State of the Race (with Holly Otterbein)
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There&#39;s one thing Republican and Democratic strategists all agree on right now: no state is more likely to decide this election than Pennsylvania. 
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S4 Ep56: Senate GOP Vote Desert (with Jon Ralston and Yvonne Wingett Sanchez)
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Jon Ralston helps break down Sarah&#39;s focus groups with PBS in Nevada, and Yvonne Wingett Sanchez discusses Arizona&#39;s abortion referendum and Kari Lake&#39;s attempt in the Senate race.
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S4 Ep55: Great Lakes, &quot;Meh&quot; Candidates (with Craig Gilbert and Craig Mauger)
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Michigan and Wisconsin aren&#39;t just presidential battlegrounds; their Senate races are getting more competitive down the stretch. How are swing voters thinking about their options?
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S4 Ep54: The Grandpa vs. the Slimy Lawyer (with John Heilemann)
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The pundit class thought JD Vance performed better than Tim Walz in the VP  debate. Voters had their own take. John Heilemann joins Sarah to review our focus groups reactions.
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S4 Ep53:  Trump Is All They Know (with Peter Hamby)
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Some of today&#39;s first-time voters were 10 years old when Trump launched his first campaign, and that&#39;s certainly affected how they look at politics. Peter Hamby joins Sarah.
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S4 Ep52: Bonus Episode/Crosspost: Sarah Longwell on &#39;Possible&#39;
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Sarah recently joined Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger on the &#39;Possible&#39; pod to talk about the future of politics, the origins of her focus group work, and how AI might impact that work.
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S4 Ep51: Splittin&#39; Tickets? (with Jessica Taylor)
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The battle for Senate control is running through red states, with former Trump voters. Some are more persuadable than others. Jessica Taylor of the Cook Political Report joins Sarah.
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S4 Ep50: She Was Built for This (with Dana Bash)
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Dana Bash joins Sarah to discuss her new book, Tuesday&#39;s debate, her experience as  co-moderator of the June 27 debate, and fact-checking during debates. 
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S4 Ep49: Can Kamala Be Unburdened? (with Benjy Sarlin)
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Benjy Sarlin joins Sarah to discuss the state of the race going into the second debate, and Harris&#39;s standing with skeptical former Biden voters.
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S4 Ep48: DNC Part 2: The Dems&#39; Defibrillator (with John Anzalone)
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Democratic pollster John Anzalone joins Sarah to listen to how the new ticket looks to swing voters...and even some former Trump voters who are now Harris-curious.
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S4 Ep47: DNC-Palooza, Part 1 (with Joe Perticone)
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The Bulwark is ON LOCATION at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago and  Joe Perticone joins Sarah to recap the sights and sounds from the convention.
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S4 Ep46: MAGA According to JD Vance (with Ian Ward)
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POLITICO&#39;s Ian Ward joins Sarah to discuss his reporting on JD Vance and the &quot;new right&quot; more broadly. 
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S4 Ep45: Quick Reaction: Tim Walz Edition
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Sarah is on vacation, but we didn&#39;t want to leave you without some focus group reactions to Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz joining the Democratic ticket.
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S4 Ep44: Does Kamala Need A Straight White Guy? (with Sam Stein)
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New Bulwark managing editor Sam Stein joins Sarah to break down Harris&#39;s VP options. 
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S4 Ep43: Kamala Gets The Start (with David Axelrod)
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At the 11th hour, Kamala Harris is now the presumptive Democratic nominee. David Axelrod joins Sarah to walk through where Harris goes from here.
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S4 Ep42: The &#39;Jekyll and Hyde&#39; Running Mate (with Marc Caputo)
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Marc Caputo joins Sarah from Milwaukee to discuss the convention, the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Trump, and voters&#39; reactions to the Trump-Vance ticket.
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S4 Ep41: Gambling Our Rights? (with Audie Cornish)
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Democrats&#39; spin holds that the calls for Joe Biden to drop out are driven by the media, while base voters are committed to Biden as the nominee. In a series of focus groups with black Democratic voters this week, we found the truth to be more complicated.
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S4 Ep40: Derangement vs. Impairment (with Tim Miller)
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Biden&#39;s debate performance was a disaster...and voters noticed. We&#39;re bringing you the voters&#39; reactions and a frank discussion about the risks and rewards of Biden stepping aside as the nominee
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S4 Ep39: Former Hillary Voters for Trump (with Amy Walter)
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We fielded a group Hispanic voters to better understand why Biden is losing the race. 
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1719655200" data-format="short_date">Jun 29, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep38: Utah: The Least MAGA Red State (with McKay Coppins)
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Utah has been something of a bulwark (pun intended) against Trumpism, but even they haven&#39;t been immune to sliding into MAGA. And now, with Romney retiring, voters are poised to pick a new U.S. senator there. 
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1719050400" data-format="short_date">Jun 22, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep37: Is The GOP &#39;Happy With Losing&#39;? (with Isaac Arnsdorf)
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One of the GOP&#39;s biggest problems is that its base demands behavior that swing voters won&#39;t tolerate.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1718445600" data-format="short_date">Jun 15, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep36: Former Trump Voters Say &#39;Lock Him Up&#39; (with Laura Barrón-López)
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 When Donald Trump&#39;s 34 felony convictions were handed down, we had focus groups at the ready. Here&#39;s what they told us.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1717840800" data-format="short_date">Jun 08, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep35: It&#39;s Just About Feelings, Man (with Jonathan V. Last)
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We have five months to go until Election Day, and nobody&#39;s happy. So we&#39;re bringing you some catharsis. Jonathan V. Last joins Sarah to let out a primal scream and preview the home stretch of this presidential campaign through the lens of Trump &#39;16/Biden &#39;20 voters.

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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1717236000" data-format="short_date">Jun 01, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep34: The Holocaust Denier from North Carolina (with Zach Montellaro)
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North Carolina Republicans have nominated a candidate for governor who might be crazier than all of the Republicans who ran in 2022. And that&#39;s saying something.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1716631200" data-format="short_date">May 25, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep33: Unlearning Their Hermit-ness (with Tim Miller)
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2024&#39;s college graduates started their college careers with COVID, and ended them with encampments on most of their campuses. Tim Miller joins Sarah to discuss how America&#39;s youth have dealt with a turbulent few years, how they view the recent protests on their campuses, and their thoughts on November&#39;s election.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1716026400" data-format="short_date">May 18, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep32:  Larry Hogan: The Most Democratic Republican (with Michael Steele)
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One of Sarah&#39;s fav Republicans, former Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, is running for Senate. So how are Sarah, and her fellow Marylanders thinking about the race? 
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1715421600" data-format="short_date">May 11, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep31: Trump&#39;s &#39;F*ck You&#39; Strategy (with Marc Caputo)
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Trump said that Nikki&#39;s supporters would be &quot;permanently barred&quot; from the MAGA camp, and he&#39;s keeping that promise in the general election.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1714816800" data-format="short_date">May 04, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep30: Arizona: The &quot;Leave Me Alone&quot; State (with Yvonne Wingett Sanchez)
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Abortion has become a defining feature of the 2024 election in Arizona, and Arizona women know it.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1714212000" data-format="short_date">Apr 27, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep29: Wanted: Serious, Sober People (with Bill Kristol)
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Voters have gotten long looks at both Trump and Biden representing America on the world stage, so what did swing voters see?
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1713607200" data-format="short_date">Apr 20, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep28: The &quot;Uncommitted&quot; Democrats (with Tommy Vietor)
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Voters in recent Democratic primaries have been upset with Biden&#39;s handling of the Israel-Hamas war. Can he win them back?

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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1713002400" data-format="short_date">Apr 13, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep27: RFK, Jr.: The Most Insider Outsider (with Astead Herndon)
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We talked to former Trump voters and former Biden voters who are giving RFK, Jr. a look.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1712397600" data-format="short_date">Apr 06, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep26: Hands Off My TikTok (with Andrew Egger)
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The House recently passed a bill that could lead to a ban on TikTok in the U.S., a proposition that did not sit well with voters in our focus groups. 
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1711792800" data-format="short_date">Mar 30, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep25: &quot;I voted for Donald Trump. My bad, fam.&quot; (with Tim Miller)
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Sarah&#39;s trying to peel voters away from Trump in 2024. It&#39;s a tall order, but she&#39;s done it before. 
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1711188000" data-format="short_date">Mar 23, 2024</span></span>
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S4 Ep24: Cleveland Rocks (with Henry Gomez)
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The GOP Senate primary in Ohio is unexpectedly heating up. Gomez, with NBC News, and a native of Youngstown, joins Sarah for a preview.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1710583200" data-format="short_date">Mar 16, 2024</span></span>
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