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Michael Steele and David French discuss what our gun culture says about our country and shifting away from our apocalyptic, &quot;six minutes to midnight&quot; view of politics.

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Rick Ungar joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss the January 6th hearings, the national gun control debate and the midterm elections. The pair debate whether Trump will be convicted of a crime at the end of the hearings, what is going to get people to vote during the midterms and how, for many, the importance of gas and food prices has surpassed the importance of democracy.
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Political scientist Francis Fukuyama joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, &quot;Liberalism and Its Discontents.&quot; Michael and Professor Fukuyama discuss current manifestations of liberalism— the ideology that government should have limited power— and how liberalism ties into today&#39;s fight for individual autonomy and the ways in which tech platforms have worked to undermine libera...
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Write Me The Law That&#39;s Gonna Stop That: With Joe Walsh
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Michael speaks with Joe Walsh about gun reform, and the frightening prospect of anti-democracy forces taking back congress this fall.
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Quick Take: Take the Sh*t Out of Your Ears and Listen
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Michael Cohen joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his mission to right his wrongs, since being Trump&#39;s &quot;personal fixer.&quot; They discuss the importance of having the facts straight to make informed decisions, Trumpism as a danger to democracy and the strategy and intention behind J.D. Vance&#39;s campaign.
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Our Institutions Need Strong Individuals: With Marie Yovanovitch
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Former U.S Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss her new memoir, &quot;Lessons From the Edge.&quot; Marie discusses the importance of remaining non-partisan in diplomatic roles, her experience as a witness to Trump&#39;s first impeachment, being thrusted into a misinformation campaign and observing corruption in the process. Former Ambassador Yovanovitch also tal...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1653472803" data-format="short_date">May 25, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: The GOP Stands for Nothing
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Michael Steele and Tom Nichols talk about how Putin&#39;s war in Ukraine has impacted the U.S. They also discuss why, according to Nichols, the GOP stands for nothing, and why Steele has decided to remain in the party.
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Liberalism and Individual Autonomy: With Francis Fukuyama
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Political scientist Francis Fukuyama joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, &quot;Liberalism and Its Discontents.&quot; Michael and Professor Fukuyama discuss current manifestations of liberalism— the ideology that government should have limited power— and how liberalism has moved toward neoliberalism. The conversation touches on alternatives to liberalism, how liberalism ties into tod...
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Quick Take: Why Previous Movements Worked
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Michael speaks with musician, activist and writer Andre Henry about his new book, &quot;All the White Friends I Couldn&#39;t Keep: Hope--and Hard Pills to Swallow--About Fighting for Black Lives.&quot; The pair discuss why previous movements for Black lives worked, the &quot;militant approach to nonviolence,&quot; and how today there&#39;s a lot of passion, but not enough strategy.

Check out Andre&#39;s book here: https://ww...
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The Craft of Defending American Democracy: With Reed Galen
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Michael Steele is joined by Lincoln Project Co-Founder Reed Galen to discuss the impact that overturning Roe v. Wade would have on Americans–Democrats and Republicans alike. The pair discuss the surge of people running for office who don&#39;t care about governing, the Lincoln Project&#39;s strategies for 2022 and how today&#39;s billionaires are often helping themselves more than helping others.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1652289602" data-format="short_date">May 11, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Corrupt From Top to Bottom
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Michael speaks with Rick Wilson about the importance of the 2022 midterms and how the culture wars are distracting and polarizing the country from more pressing issues. The pair discuss what the Lincoln Project is doing to help the country, how to pull Republicans back and the impact of January 6th committee.
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We Need People to Get Angry: With Michael Cohen
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Michael Steele is joined by Michael Cohen for a Michael Squared Special. The two discuss thoughts on why the Supreme Court decision was leaked and how Roe v. Wade being overturned will impact the midterms and women&#39;s rights. The conversation touches on everything from J.D. Vance to Mark Meadows texts, Trump sycophancy, January 6th and the people willing to go to jail for Trump, despite him bein...
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Quick Take: The Intersection of Faith and Politics
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Michael speaks with The Nation’s justice correspondent Elie Mystal about his new book, &quot;Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution.&quot; The pair discuss how the meaning behind amendments have evolved, Ketanji Brown Jackson&#39;s influence on the court, how cancel culture fits into the First Amendment, and who the constitution benefits today.

Check out the book here: https://thenewpre...
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Putin Has Chosen a Forever War: With Tom Nichols
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Michael speaks with Tom Nichols about the Ukraine-Russia war, including what a Ukrainian win would look like, how NATO can save Putin, how the war has impacted the U.S and why Tom describes it as a &quot;forever war.&quot; The pair also discuss how all of the &quot;good ones&quot; have left the GOP, J.D Vance&#39;s campaign, why the GOP stands for nothing, according to Nichols, and how free speech will be impacted by ...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1651179302" data-format="short_date">Apr 28, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Just How Little Integrity Our System Has
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Michael sits down with Malcolm Nance and Dr. Jason Johnson for a barbershop discussion on current events, politics and culture. The trio discuss Ukraine, examining Zelensky&#39;s leadership and progress on the ground. Then, a look at last week&#39;s Supreme Court hearing and Cory Booker&#39;s impassioned speech. And a break-down of &quot;The Slap&quot; from Oscar night.
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All the White Friends I Couldn&#39;t Keep: With Andre Henry
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Michael speaks with musician, activist and writer Andre Henry about his new book, &quot;All the White Friends I Couldn&#39;t Keep: Hope--and Hard Pills to Swallow--About Fighting for Black Lives.&quot; The pair discuss Andre&#39;s bicultural upbringing in the South, the power of nonviolence struggle and how this movement is different than ones we&#39;ve seen before. Andre describes the moments that led him to stop d...
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Quick Take: Destigmatizing Cannabis
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Michael speaks with cannabis educator Sara Payan about developing enlightened policies, equity and legislation surrounding cannabis. The pair discuss addressing discrimination, stigma and miseducation of cannabis use, as well as the economic and health benefits that it provides.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1650114302" data-format="short_date">Apr 16, 2022</span></span>
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Do the Work Now: With Rick Wilson
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Michael speaks with Rick Wilson about the importance of the 2022 midterms and how the culture wars are distracting and polarizing the country from more pressing issues. The pair discuss what the Lincoln Project is doing to help the country, how to pull Republicans back and the impact of January 6th committee.
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Quick Take: Stepping Up Our Game
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Michael speaks with former Congressman and CIA officer Will Hurd about his new book, &quot;American Reboot: An Idealist’s Guide to Getting Big Things Done.&quot; The pair discuss restoring the Republican Party, China&#39;s long game and how the U.S can compete globally by improving its leadership and preparing for rapid technological advances.

Check out Will&#39;s book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/boo...
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A Black Guy&#39;s Guide to the Constitution: With Elie Mystal
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Michael speaks with The Nation’s justice correspondent Elie Mystal about his new book, &quot;Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution.&quot; The pair discuss how the meaning behind amendments have evolved, Ketanji Brown Jackson&#39;s influence on the court, how cancel culture fits into the First Amendment, and who the constitution benefits today.

Check out the book here: https://thenewpre...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1649271302" data-format="short_date">Apr 06, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Is It the Party of Trump or MTG?
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Michael speaks with NYT reporter Jeremy Peters about his new book, &quot;Insurgency: How Republicans Lost Their Party and Got Everything They Ever Wanted.&quot; The pair contextualize the disintegration of the GOP, whether Trump&#39;s Faustian bargain was worth it, how the GOP may shift from Trump&#39;s to Marjorie Taylor Greene&#39;s party and the role the media played in all of it.

Check out Jeremy&#39;s book here: h...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1648904402" data-format="short_date">Apr 02, 2022</span></span>
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Ukraine, Judge Jackson and &#39;The Slap&#39;: With Malcolm Nance and Dr. Jason Johnson
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Michael sits down with Malcolm Nance and Dr. Jason Johnson for a barbershop discussion on current events, politics and culture. The trio discuss Ukraine, examining Zelensky&#39;s leadership and progress on the ground. Then, a look at last week&#39;s Supreme Court hearing and Cory Booker&#39;s impassioned speech. And a break-down of &quot;The Slap&quot; from Oscar night.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1648660802" data-format="short_date">Mar 30, 2022</span></span>
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Cannabis and Social Inequity: With Sara Payan
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Michael speaks with cannabis educator Sara Payan about developing enlightened policies, equity and legislation surrounding cannabis. The pair discuss addressing discrimination, stigma and miseducation of cannabis use, as well as the economic and health benefits that it provides.
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Roundtable Discussion on Minority Business Ownership, Entrepreneurship, and Investment
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Michael sits with former Congressman Ed Towns, Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett and Entrepreneur Lisa Song Sutton for a roundtable discussion on minority business ownership and growth. The group discusses building generational wealth, supporting minority business opportunity and the hurdles businesses faced during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Quick Take: The &#39;Don&#39;t Say Gay&#39; Bill Is Dangerous
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Michael sits down with Nancy G. Brinker, a leader of the global breast cancer movement and founder of the Susan G. Komen foundation. The pair discuss the war in Ukraine and how Nancy&#39;s experience as Chief Protocol and Ambassador to Hungary shaped her views of our current landscape and the influence of the U.S globally. They also talk about LGBTQ rights, enhancing civic education and the values ...
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Getting Things Done: With Will Hurd
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Michael speaks with former Congressman and CIA officer Will Hurd about his new book, &quot;American Reboot: An Idealist’s Guide to Getting Big Things Done.&quot; The pair discuss restoring the Republican Party, China&#39;s long game and how the U.S can compete globally by improving its leadership and preparing for rapid technological advances.

Check out Will&#39;s book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/boo...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1647450902" data-format="short_date">Mar 16, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Can America Survive Itself?
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Michael speaks with Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II about our current democratic crisis and what we can do about it. The pair discuss the Poor People&#39;s Campaign, how the bible informs discussions on poverty, the impact of Build Back Better and how addressing voting rights and economic justice would transform our country.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1647195602" data-format="short_date">Mar 13, 2022</span></span>
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How Republicans Lost Their Party: With Jeremy Peters
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Michael speaks with NYT reporter Jeremy Peters about his new book, &quot;Insurgency: How Republicans Lost Their Party and Got Everything They Ever Wanted.&quot; The pair contextualize the disintegration of the GOP, whether Trump&#39;s Faustian bargain was worth it, how the GOP may shift from Trump&#39;s to Marjorie Taylor Greene&#39;s party and the role the media played in all of it.

Check out Jeremy&#39;s book here: h...
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1646850902" data-format="short_date">Mar 09, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Bastards of the Reagan Era
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Michael speaks with Reginald Dwayne Betts about his path to becoming a poet, Yale Law School graduate and MacArthur Fellow after being incarcerated at age sixteen. The pair discuss Dwayne&#39;s organization Freedom Reads, the language of poetry, access to books and beauty, and how true change comes from seeing our shared humanity.
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Showing Our Values: With Nancy G. Brinker
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Michael sits down with Nancy G. Brinker, a leader of the global breast cancer movement and founder of the Susan G. Komen foundation. The pair discuss the war in Ukraine and how Nancy&#39;s experience as Chief Protocol and Ambassador to Hungary shaped her views of our current landscape and the influence of the U.S globally. They also talk about LGBTQ rights, enhancing civic education and the values ...
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Quick Take: What&#39;s Wrong With People?
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Michael speaks with Steven Pinker about his book, &quot;Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters.&quot; The pair discuss who decides rationality, the prevalence of confirmation bias and tribalism, and the strength in changing one&#39;s mind when presented with new evidence.
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Our Crisis of Democracy: With Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II
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Michael speaks with Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II about our current democratic crisis and what we can do about it. The pair discuss the Poor People&#39;s Campaign, how the bible informs discussions on poverty, the impact of Build Back Better and how addressing voting rights and economic justice would transform our country.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1645640103" data-format="short_date">Feb 23, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: The Moment You Find Out Why You Were Born
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Michael speaks with Reverend Al Sharpton about his new book, &quot;Righteous Troublemakers: Untold Stories of the Social Justice Movement in America.&quot; The pair discuss the unsung heroes of our country, how activism has evolved, the importance of raising your voice for others and why the Reverend is still an activist today.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1645282802" data-format="short_date">Feb 19, 2022</span></span>
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Prison to Possibility: With Reginald Dwayne Betts
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Michael speaks with Reginald Dwayne Betts about his path to becoming a poet, Yale Law School graduate and MacArthur Fellow after being incarcerated at age sixteen. The pair discuss Dwayne&#39;s organization Freedom Reads, the language of poetry, access to books and beauty, and how true change comes from seeing our shared humanity.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1645130702" data-format="short_date">Feb 17, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Our Democratic System Is Always Being Challenged
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Michael speaks with George Takei about his American journey, from living in a U.S concentration camp as a child, to his interest in democracy as a teenager and his activism as an adult. The pair discuss George Takei&#39;s graphic memoir, &quot;They Called Us Enemy,&quot; the importance of educating young Japanese-Americans about their history, and how science fiction often reflects our humanity and ability t...
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Why Rationality Matters: With Steven Pinker
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Michael speaks with Steven Pinker about his book, &quot;Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters.&quot; The pair discuss who decides rationality, the prevalence of confirmation bias and tribalism, and the strength in changing one&#39;s mind when presented with new evidence.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1644428102" data-format="short_date">Feb 09, 2022</span></span>
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Quick Take: Reconstruction 2.0
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Michael speaks with Kimberly Jones about her new book, &quot;How We Can Win: Race, History and Changing the Money Game That&#39;s Rigged.&quot; The pair discuss legacy wealth, where the U.S education system falls short, Reconstruction 2.0 and how we can begin to repair our unequal system.
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Righteous Troublemakers: With Reverend Al Sharpton
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Michael speaks with Reverend Al Sharpton about his new book, &quot;Righteous Troublemakers: Untold Stories of the Social Justice Movement in America.&quot; The pair discuss the unsung heroes of our country, how activism has evolved, the importance of raising your voice for others and why the Reverend is still an activist today.
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Michael speaks with Laura Coates about her work as a civil rights attorney. Coates served as Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Columbia and a Trial Attorney in the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, specializing in the enforcement of voting rights throughout the United States. Her new book is &quot;Just Pursuit: A Black Prosecutor’s Fight for Fairness.&quot;
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Michael speaks with George Takei about his American journey, from living in a U.S concentration camp as a child, to his interest in democracy as a teenager and his activism as an adult. The pair discuss George Takei&#39;s graphic memoir, &quot;They Called Us Enemy,&quot; the importance of educating young Japanese-Americans about their history, and how science fiction often reflects our humanity and ability t...
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How We Begin to Reconstruct: With Kimberly Jones
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