21: Murder in Canton - Week Two Recap of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week two and it's full of drama and a whole lot of different views on how this all went down. Plus, Judge Beverly Canone makes a HUGE decision on a pending motion that could change the outcome of this trial. Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon wi...
37m May 07, 2025
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20: Murder in Canton - Week One Recap of the Retrial of Karen Read
Join Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in retrial of Karen Read. This is week one and it started with a bang! Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial. This will be a regular thing throughout the trial so join the conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/collection/595523?view=expanded Follow The In Bet...
19m Apr 29, 2025
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19: DEEP DIVE The Investigation and (first) Trial of Karen Read
Host Mel Barrett goes on a mega deep dive into the investigation and first trial of Karen Read on the eve of her retrial. Subscribe for updates about the second trial and catch Mel on Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial. This will be a regular thing throughout the trial so join the conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/collection/595523?view=expanded Follow The In Bet...
1hr 16m Apr 22, 2025
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18: **UPDATE: New EARLY Episode Coming This Monday AND Mel B Joins Crime Writer's On The Readathon to Cover the New Karen Read Trial
An important update. Expect a big episode out on Monday, April 21, 2025 in anticipation of opening statements in the second Karen Read Trial starting on Tuesday, April 22, 2025. Also! Host of The In Between Podcast, Mel Barrett joins Crime Writers On The Readathon to discuss the new trial. This will be a regular thing throughout the trial so join the conversation here: https://www.patreon.com...
1m Apr 20, 2025
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17: A Mother on Death Row: Darlie Routier's Sister Tells Her Story
In a candid and emotional interview, Mel speaks with Darlie Routier's youngest sister, Danelle, about her sister, the night of the crime, and her family's belief that Darlie is wrongfully convicted of murdering her two young boys.
43m Apr 17, 2025
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16: **UPDATE - New Episode out Wednesday 04/16
Just a quick update from host, Mel Barrett. Today's scheduled episode fell victim to the tech Gods, but not to worry, you'll have Mel's interview with Darlie Routier's sister, Danelle tomorrow.
1m Apr 16, 2025
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15: A Mother on Death Row: The Darlie Routier Story
On a quiet night in June 1996, the affluent suburb of Rowlett, Texas, was rocked by a brutal crime: 6-year-old Devon and 5-year-old Damon Routier were stabbed to death while sleeping in the family’s living room. Their mother, Darlie Routier, claimed an intruder broke in and attacked them all. But when investigators dug deeper, suspicion turned toward the one person who was supposed to protect ...
24m Apr 08, 2025
24m
14: *BONUS* Sam Nordquist's Family Tells Their Story
In this episode of The In Between Podcast, host Mel Barrett speaks at length with Sam Nordquist's mother and sister.
28m Mar 25, 2025
28m
13: Missing Tortured Murdered - The Story of Sam Nordquist
Sam Nordquist was a typical twenty-four year-old guy. He loved TikTok, his family and friends, and animals. And like so many of us, Sam found love online. After a short period of dating, Sam traveled from his home state of Minnesota to meet his love, Precious Arzuaga, a thirty-eight year-old single mother, whom he hoped to start a life with. But Sam didn't find love in Canandaigua, New York. H...
18m Mar 18, 2025
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12: *BONUS* A Conversation with Pamela Smart, Mel Barrett & Ellyn Marsh
Pamela Smart answers various questions and discusses an appeal and what's next. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes content? Join our exclusive TIBP community here: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between...
1hr 25m Mar 11, 2025
1hr 25m
11: *BONUS* It Happened Right Here
Mel talks at length with someone very close to the case and the boys who perpetrated the murder, Raymond's brother, Robert. Robert goes into detail about what happened the night of the murder when the boys came back to his home and what it was like in the months leading up to the trial, including his thoughts on Pam Smart and her sentence. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus conten...
37m Mar 04, 2025
37m
10: *BONUS* More Than Manson
Even Manson had the option of parole. Mel speaks further with the Sentencing Project and a Democratic Representative from NH who is introducing a new bill that might offer the opportunity of parole for Pamela Smart. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes? Join our exclusive TIBP community here: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwit...
22m Feb 25, 2025
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9: *BONUS* Pam Smart Responds
Mel got the chance to catch up with Pam, which gave her an opportunity to respond to the podcast so far. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes? Join our exclusive TIBP community here: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Foll...
25m Feb 18, 2025
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8: Episode 8: Whisked Away
The media's role in creating the trope of the "manipulative ice princess" and how that categorization found Pam Smart's family desperately searching to find their daughter and sister within the prison system when she went missing during the first two years of her Life Without Parole Sentence. Listen to find out where she was and why her family couldn't find her until it was too late to say goo...
35m Feb 11, 2025
35m
7: Episode 7: Trial and Error(s)
For fourteen days in March of 1991, the country and much of the world was riveted by a court case in a tiny New Hampshire town called, Exeter. The Pamela Smart Accomplice to Murder Trial. ​Perhaps everyone was so enthralled by the spectacle they missed the very real possibility of a miscarriage of justice, but there's the tape and transcripts. Mel takes a deep dive on the trial and errors that...
46m Feb 04, 2025
46m
6: Episode 6: The Spirit Of The Stairway
This episode wasn't planned, but Mel felt compelled to share it when she FINALLY tracked down one of the key players in this story, and he spent an hour with her. This is the only episode in the series that is comprised of an interview with a source. Listen to find out why. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes? Join our exclusive TIBP ...
59m Jan 28, 2025
59m
5: Episode 5: The Tapes Lie
The wire taps were the only physical evidence against Pamela Smart, so the questions remain: Was Pamela Smart acting when she was recorded by the Derry Police and Cecelia Pierce? She says she was. Were the wiretaps edited or spliced? Forensic audiologists say yes. Who transcribed the tapes? The prosecutor says some "secretary" in the Attorney General's office, not a certified transcriber. Mel d...
1hr Jan 21, 2025
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4: Episode 4: The Intern
Only one of the five teens involved in planning and carrying out the murder of Gregg Smart on May 1, 1990 was never charged and never served a day behind bars. Cecelia Pierce. In this episode, Mel goes on another deep dive to figure out why. She even comes across some potentially new evidence...if she can figure out where it exists. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like L...
39m Jan 14, 2025
39m
The In Between Podcast is hosting a Live Virtual Event Tuesday, Jan 14th!
Hi friends! It’s Mel Barrett, the host of The In Between Podcast, coming at you with a very big announcement. On Tuesday, January 14th at 5:45 pm EST, Ellyn Marsh from I Think Not and Rabia and Ellyn Solve the Case, and I will be co-hosting a live event on the Grab Bag Collab Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/GrabBagCollab) for our “Behind the Scenes” and up tiers about my first season of TIBP,...
1m Jan 11, 2025
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3: Episode 3: Shoo Fly
Mel takes you on a deep, deep dive into the teens involved in the murder and who they were at the time, and beyond. Was there a reason behind Bill Flynn's emotions on the stand? What did they actually do to Pam's dog? Listener discretion is advised. You've been warned. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes? Join our exclusive TIBP commu...
45m Jan 07, 2025
45m
2: Episode 2: Resting B*tch Face
Pam is angry. The men who pulled the trigger and killed her husband are out. They’ve been out for almost a decade while she still sits in prison without any possibility of parole. But Pam has been angry for nearly 34 years. Her anger is part of how we think of her, how we remember her. Want to listen AD FREE and get access to bonus content like LIVES, VIDEO, and behind-the-scenes? Join our ex...
34m Dec 31, 2024
34m
1: Episode 1: Live Free or Die
In this debut episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett takes you back to May 1990, when Gregg Smart was brutally murdered in the condo he shared with his young wife, Pamela Smart. Just down the road, a 15-year-old Mel listened closely as her family and neighbors confidently discussed the case: Pamela, they believed, had manipulated her 16-year-old lover into killing her husband. Now, thirty-...
26m Dec 24, 2024
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Introducing The In Between Podcast
Host Mel Barrett investigates a famous murder case that has split the community in her home state of New Hampshire right down the middle for thirty-four years. It’s a closed case, but based on what Mel uncovers this season in old police files (including surreptitiously recorded wiretaps), never before heard interviews, and a bombshell post trial interview with a juror that’s been hidden away, M...
4m Dec 13, 2024
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