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109: Kouri Richins Trial Day 6 PLUS What did Karen Read say + HOW does Kate Peter have TB&#39;s private messages
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Join Mel and Rebeccas as they recap day six of the Kouri Richins trial PLUS did the O&#39;Keefe&#39;s let their confirmation bias color what they think Karen Said on a private recording? Also...how does Kate Peter suddenly have access to Aidan Kearney&#39;s private messages?

Let&#39;s discuss!

If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart&#39;s new legal fight, wa...
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108: RECAP with Mel Barrett: Week One of the Kouri Richins Trial
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Mel breaks down pre-trial motions and day-by-day coverage of the first week of the Kouri Richins trial.

Here&#39;s what you&#39;ll find inside the episode:

A new straight bear we love: Judge Daddy

False testimony

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witness recantation

a member of the gallery thrown out of the courtroom

lead detectives threatening to take a witness&#39; dog if she doesn&#39;t comply with their requests...
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107:  💥💥 EXPLOSIVE Kelsey Fitzsimmons filing💥💥 PLUS Karen Read v Proctor Hearing on phone disclosure
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106: Mel introduces the Kouri Richins case PLUS did the DOJ withhold and remove SA investigations into Donald Trump?
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Mel + Rebecca finally share the lowdown on the Kouri Richins case and trial, while asking questions of our DOJ.

If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart&#39;s new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-8a84-40df-8d88-7e1b032252f1?play=false&amp;utm_source=shared_link

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Well...the State of the Union Happened. Mel watched, so you wouldn&#39;t have to. Plus, a disgraced monarch has fallen and did the DOJ hide Epstein Files that would hurt Donald Trump, plus the Supreme Court of the United States finally does its job and acts as a check on this unlawful president. Guests: Mr. Winks and Ellyn Marsh.

Mel is building this new show from scratch and can use your help!

I...
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A Utah mother writes a children’s book about grief. A year later, she’s charged with murdering her husband with fentanyl.

In this episode, Mel Barrett breaks down the financial timeline, the alleged prior poisoning attempt, the mansion flip, the boyfriend, and the prosecution’s theory against Khouri Richins — as her five-week trial begins.

Money. Marriage. Motive. And the evidence that will d...
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We couldn&#39;t fit it all into the title, but there&#39;s lots to discuss:

Karen phone, Jen McCabe allegedly intimidating witnesses (?), more audio and video from the Corri Hopkins doc dump, YES we&#39;ll get to Sean Goode, Nancy Guthrie, and Norfolk DA, Michael Morrissey shows up in a big way in Epstein Files -- why are no Boston journalists covering this story?? and probably a ton of tangents.

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Mel and Rebecca are back together—double-fisting caffeine, single-fisting water, filling the swear jar, and trying (struggling) to keep it together after Rebecca’s near-death plague tour (DC included). We kick off with some housekeeping + sticker chaos—yes, they’re coming, yes, there’s a form, no, we’re not taking complaints—then slide into a quick, nerdy love letter to signposting (because som...
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In January 2001, Tara Louise Baker, a 23-year-old University of Georgia law student, was found dead in her Athens apartment after a fire that investigators quickly determined was no accident. Tara had been sexually assaulted, beaten, strangled, and stabbed. The fire came after — an apparent attempt to erase what happened inside that apartment.

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100: NEW SHOW - NewsLIGHT with Mel Barrett Let&#39;s Talk about the Epstein Files and the Save Act!
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In this episode of The In Between, Mel takes a deep, careful look at one of the most disturbing and contested criminal cases in modern British history: the conviction of neonatal nurse Lucy Letby.

Between 2015 and 2016, a spike in infant deaths inside the neonatal unit at Countess of Chester Hospital led to a massive police investigation — and ultimately to Letby being convicted of murdering s...
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Mel and Rebecca have A LOT to catch up on: Starting with the Norfolk County DA race, Karen Read&#39;s reply all, Kelsey Fitzsimmons motion to recuse the judge in her case, the super bowl, and a recap of Mel&#39;s bday celebrations, which were a little hindered because of a big New England blizzard!

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We&#39;re doing a back episode this week since it&#39;s Groundhog Day!

Pamela Smart has received a hearing date in late February 2026. We don&#39;t have news yet whether this will be an evidentiary hearing or just process, but Mel will keep you informed as the news comes out.

Pam&#39;s attorneys feel confident that their arguments are solid and based in NH case law, so if the state of NH doesn&#39;t hear this ca...
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Within hours of Alex Pretti being killed by a federal officer in Minneapolis, the government decided who he was.

They said he was a terrorist.
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Alex Pretti was a 37-year-old ICU nurse, a licensed gun owner, and a U.S. citizen who was filming a federal immigration enforcement...
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A new episode of Something&#39;s Off! Rebecca&#39;s back from her nude beach vacation and she&#39;s got some stories to tell!

We also dive into the new release of Brian Higgins police interview and the inconsistencies we found there, Turtleboy/Young Jerks fundraiser drama, Plevin Lenihan&#39;s &quot;bombshell,&quot; and of course, more sidebahs!

This is the audio from the Something&#39;s Off YouTube presentation. If you w...
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Two people are dead.

A family has been destroyed.

And a seventeen-year-old girl is sitting in jail, charged as an adult and facing the possibility of life without parole.

In this episode of The In Between, Mel takes a careful, evidence-forward look at the case of Sarah Grace Patrick, a Georgia teenager accused of murdering her mother and stepfather while they slept.

This is not an episode a...
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While Rebecca&#39;s away, Mel jumped on solo to talk about two cases that are keeping her up at night: Aaron Spencer, the Arkansas father, who killed the man who had SA&#39;d and kidnapped his daughter. Was it vigilantism, or stopping a crime as it was happening. Let Mel know in the comments.

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While Rebecca&#39;s on vacation, Mel sits down with fellow podcaster, rockstar journalist, all around badass, and friend, Maggie Freleng. If you want to watch Mel fangirl all over Maggie, join us! We&#39;ll be talking about Maggie&#39;s groundbreaking work on wrongful convictions, her newest and amazing podcast, Bone Valley: Graves County Season 3, and the ethics of reporting in the true crime sphere.

If ...
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We knew that already though.

Join Mel and cohost, Ellyn Marsh, who is in for Rebecca who is on vacation as they talk Alan Jackson on Billy Bush, Rotten Mango interview w/Karen Read, and Microdots 24 mph in reverse?

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In this episode of The In Between, Mel sits down with Pamela Smart’s attorney and her good friend— Matthew Zernhelt, on what feels like a turning point day in Pam’s case.

Matt has spent years doing the kind of work that doesn’t fit neatly into soundbites: complex post-conviction litigation, constitutional violations, and the long, grinding fight to get a court to actually look at what went wro...
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What happens when the state kills someone — and then decides the story matters more than the truth?

In this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett, examines the killing of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother of three shot and killed by a federal ICE agent in Minneapolis. Using newly analyzed video, eyewitness accounts, and reporting that directly contradi...
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Mel and Rebecca discuss the ongoing drama between anti-Karen Read supporters and the #FKR movement--are the McAlberts fractured? Also sidebars, dogs, finances, Kevin Flynn&#39;s bodily functions, and then get into the meat of the episode when they delve into a case Mel investigated and covered in a seven-episode season on The In Between Podcast, the Veronika Rodriguez story, about a woman who repor...
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When I first introduced you to Sam’s story earlier this season, we talked about what was publicly known at the time: a 24-year-old trans man from Minnesota who flew to New York to meet a woman he’d met on TikTok… and never made ...
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The holidays are in full swing, so you&#39;d think the news would slow down. It&#39;s not. It actually feels like it&#39;s ramping up. It&#39;s an advent calendar of true crime news on the daily and Mel and Rebecca are here to discuss and dish a little.

In this episode the team breaks down the back-and-forth in the O&#39;Keefe civil suit against Karen Read, new information dripping out about the contents of Micha...
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In December 1993, a young man named Brandon Teena was trying to build a life in rural Nebraska—one built on truth, freedom, and finally being seen for who he was. Instead, he walked straight into a storm of transphobia, violence, and a criminal justice system that treated him like a joke rather than a victim. Days after reporting a brutal assault, Brandon, along with Lisa Lambert and Philip DeV...
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Rebecca and Mel had a lot to talk about today that weighs heavy on the heart, but luckily they also know how to take a hard left at a tangent and keep the laughter shining a light. This shit is tough to talk about. Thanks for being with us.

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Mega Something&#39;s Off episode with a few menopause breaks.

Mel and Rebecca are talkers...what can we say. 🤷🏻‍♀️  In this episode the hosts--who like to interrupt one another often--breakdown historic cases like OJ Simpson, Pamela Smart, and Matthew Shepard, while getting into the nuances of why the defense chose NOT to put on a case in the Brian Walsh Trial. We&#39;ll be on verdict watch starting (...
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In October 1998, 21-year-old Matthew Shepard was lured from a Wyoming bar, beaten, tied to a fence on the outskirts of Laramie, and left alone in the freezing dark for eighteen hours. His murder shocked the nation, ignited a global outcry, and reshaped the fight for LGBTQ+ rights in America. But behind the headlines and the legislation that now carries his name was a real kid — small, gentle, h...
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Mel + Rebecca take a train to tangent city PLUS the new Turtleboy hearing v. Cosgrove where Cosgrove argues for emails verses hard copies, days 4+5 of the Brian Walshe Trial--including testimony from Ana Walshe&#39;s DC boyfriend, William Fastow...and vampire facials?

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Drama, drama, drama.

Mel + Rebecca try to parse the latest Turtleboy drama, while the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is back on their bullshit with the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case, and Mel takes you on a journey through the bonkers first three days of the Brian Walshe Murder Trial.

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68: LIVE FREE OR DIE: Pamela Smart Asks The State Of New Hampshire For A New Trial Based On New Evidence
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It&#39;s been a long road, but we&#39;re finally here. Pamela Smart&#39;s attorneys are filing a petition of Habeus Corpus asking for a new trial or at the very least resentencing and they&#39;ve given me access to the petition. I&#39;ve been investigating Pam&#39;s case for going on a decade and some of the work I did on the first season of The In Between Podcast became the basis for this Habeus. I&#39;m always so proud ...
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It’s been more than thirty years since Pamela Smart, a 22-year-old media coordinator from Derry, New Hampshire, was convicted of plotting her husband’s murder. But the story isn’t over. In fact, it’s entering a new chapter.

Pamela’s legal team, led by attorney Matthew Zernhelt, has just filed a new habeas corpus petition — and some of the evidence behind it came directly from Mel&#39;s own investi...
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66: LISTEN to the new Karen Read Complaint against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully, Higgins, and the McAlberts, read to you by Mel Barrett
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If you&#39;re a listening learner, you&#39;ll hopefully get a lot out of listening to Mel read you the new Karen Read complaint.

If you want to read along, here&#39;s the court filing: https://www.scribd.com/document/951000000/Karen-Read-Lawsuit#from_embed
If you want to listen without ads, join The Investigator Club (https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett)

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65: MEGA Something&#39;s Off Episode PART TWO - Karen Read sues...everyone! PLUS Brian Walshe pleads guilty + MORE
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In PART TWO of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I&#39;m releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read&#39;s civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca.

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64: MEGA Something&#39;s Off Episode PART ONE - Karen Read sues...everyone! PLUS Brian Walshe pleads guilty + MORE
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In PART ONE of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I&#39;m releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read&#39;s civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca.

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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 5.5

Mel + Rebecca break down the final pre-trial hearing before the Dec 1 trial begins for Brian Walshe. We&#39;re back in Norfolk County and so are some of the characters from the Karen Read case. It gets SPICY.

AND Turtleboy responds to the Mcalberts threats.

TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips
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62: EARLY + AD FREE Something&#39;s Off with Jesse Butler, more Proctor emails, the Epstein files, and Lindsay Gaetani brings the receipts!
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TRIGGER WARNING: Sexual Assault and DV.
Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 5

Mel + Rebecca break down the case of rapist, Jesse Butler, who received no jail time even though he almost killed one of his victims, PLUS more Proctor emails in the Marbury V Mad email dump, holy shit the Epstein Files, annnnd Lindsey Gaetani releases an audio memo from one of the conspirators....
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Jesse Mack Butler was charged with raping and choking two girls at Stillwater High School. Eleven felonies. One girl thought she was going to die. And somehow—he walked. No jail. No detention. Just therapy, community service, and a ban on social media.

In this episode, Mel breaks down exactly what he did, what the victims survived, and how the system—judges, prosecutors, schools—chose to prote...
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60: Something&#39;s off with the Karen Read email dump and VERDICT WATCH in the Zwerner 1st grade shooter case
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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 4

Mel + Rebecca break down the MarburyVMad (Corri Hopkins) MSP email dump from the Karen Read Trial and Mel breaks down the civil case of the 1st grade shooter who shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner.

TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips
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When 36-year-old Sonya Massey—a Black mother of two—called 911 for help during a mental health crisis, she needed compassion. Instead, she was shot in the face by a white sheriff’s deputy in her own kitchen. In this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett walks listeners through the events of July 6, 2024, the bodycam footage that shook a community, the trial that followed, and the broader ...
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