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We&#39;re doing a back episode this week since it&#39;s Groundhog Day!

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Within hours of Alex Pretti being killed by a federal officer in Minneapolis, the government decided who he was.

They said he was a terrorist.
They said he came to kill law enforcement.
They said the case was clear.

But the evidence tells a very different story.

Alex Pretti was a 37-year-old ICU nurse, a licensed gun owner, and a U.S. citizen who was filming a federal immigration enforcement...
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A new episode of Something&#39;s Off! Rebecca&#39;s back from her nude beach vacation and she&#39;s got some stories to tell!

We also dive into the new release of Brian Higgins police interview and the inconsistencies we found there, Turtleboy/Young Jerks fundraiser drama, Plevin Lenihan&#39;s &quot;bombshell,&quot; and of course, more sidebahs!

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Two people are dead.

A family has been destroyed.

And a seventeen-year-old girl is sitting in jail, charged as an adult and facing the possibility of life without parole.

In this episode of The In Between, Mel takes a careful, evidence-forward look at the case of Sarah Grace Patrick, a Georgia teenager accused of murdering her mother and stepfather while they slept.

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While Rebecca&#39;s away, Mel jumped on solo to talk about two cases that are keeping her up at night: Aaron Spencer, the Arkansas father, who killed the man who had SA&#39;d and kidnapped his daughter. Was it vigilantism, or stopping a crime as it was happening. Let Mel know in the comments.

And well-known actor, Timothy Busfield (Thirtysomething, West Wing) is arrested for child SA, accused of abusi...
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While Rebecca&#39;s on vacation, Mel sits down with fellow podcaster, rockstar journalist, all around badass, and friend, Maggie Freleng. If you want to watch Mel fangirl all over Maggie, join us! We&#39;ll be talking about Maggie&#39;s groundbreaking work on wrongful convictions, her newest and amazing podcast, Bone Valley: Graves County Season 3, and the ethics of reporting in the true crime sphere.

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Mel and Rebecca discuss the ongoing drama between anti-Karen Read supporters and the #FKR movement--are the McAlberts fractured? Also sidebars, dogs, finances, Kevin Flynn&#39;s bodily functions, and then get into the meat of the episode when they delve into a case Mel investigated and covered in a seven-episode season on The In Between Podcast, the Veronika Rodriguez story, about a woman who repor...
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Mel and Rebecca&#39;s discuss Karen Read case updates with the civil trial, Sean Goode&#39;s compelling motion for ALLL messages between Goode and, well, everyone, millions of discovered Epstein files, the Sam Nordquist case out of upstate New York, and of course tangents about Carvel&#39;s cakepuss, new years resolutions and so much more!

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The holidays are in full swing, so you&#39;d think the news would slow down. It&#39;s not. It actually feels like it&#39;s ramping up. It&#39;s an advent calendar of true crime news on the daily and Mel and Rebecca are here to discuss and dish a little.

In this episode the team breaks down the back-and-forth in the O&#39;Keefe civil suit against Karen Read, new information dripping out about the contents of Micha...
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In December 1993, a young man named Brandon Teena was trying to build a life in rural Nebraska—one built on truth, freedom, and finally being seen for who he was. Instead, he walked straight into a storm of transphobia, violence, and a criminal justice system that treated him like a joke rather than a victim. Days after reporting a brutal assault, Brandon, along with Lisa Lambert and Philip DeV...
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Rebecca and Mel had a lot to talk about today that weighs heavy on the heart, but luckily they also know how to take a hard left at a tangent and keep the laughter shining a light. This shit is tough to talk about. Thanks for being with us.

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Mega Something&#39;s Off episode with a few menopause breaks.

Mel and Rebecca are talkers...what can we say. 🤷🏻‍♀️  In this episode the hosts--who like to interrupt one another often--breakdown historic cases like OJ Simpson, Pamela Smart, and Matthew Shepard, while getting into the nuances of why the defense chose NOT to put on a case in the Brian Walsh Trial. We&#39;ll be on verdict watch starting (...
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71: The Murder That Moved a Nation: Matthew Shepard
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In October 1998, 21-year-old Matthew Shepard was lured from a Wyoming bar, beaten, tied to a fence on the outskirts of Laramie, and left alone in the freezing dark for eighteen hours. His murder shocked the nation, ignited a global outcry, and reshaped the fight for LGBTQ+ rights in America. But behind the headlines and the legislation that now carries his name was a real kid — small, gentle, h...
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70: SOMETHING&#39;S OFF: Tangent City! Plus Turtleboy hearing against Cosgrove, Brian Walshe Trial Days4+5, + Vampire Facials
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Mel + Rebecca take a train to tangent city PLUS the new Turtleboy hearing v. Cosgrove where Cosgrove argues for emails verses hard copies, days 4+5 of the Brian Walshe Trial--including testimony from Ana Walshe&#39;s DC boyfriend, William Fastow...and vampire facials?

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Drama, drama, drama.

Mel + Rebecca try to parse the latest Turtleboy drama, while the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is back on their bullshit with the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case, and Mel takes you on a journey through the bonkers first three days of the Brian Walshe Murder Trial.

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It&#39;s been a long road, but we&#39;re finally here. Pamela Smart&#39;s attorneys are filing a petition of Habeus Corpus asking for a new trial or at the very least resentencing and they&#39;ve given me access to the petition. I&#39;ve been investigating Pam&#39;s case for going on a decade and some of the work I did on the first season of The In Between Podcast became the basis for this Habeus. I&#39;m always so proud ...
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It’s been more than thirty years since Pamela Smart, a 22-year-old media coordinator from Derry, New Hampshire, was convicted of plotting her husband’s murder. But the story isn’t over. In fact, it’s entering a new chapter.

Pamela’s legal team, led by attorney Matthew Zernhelt, has just filed a new habeas corpus petition — and some of the evidence behind it came directly from Mel&#39;s own investi...
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66: LISTEN to the new Karen Read Complaint against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully, Higgins, and the McAlberts, read to you by Mel Barrett
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If you&#39;re a listening learner, you&#39;ll hopefully get a lot out of listening to Mel read you the new Karen Read complaint.

If you want to read along, here&#39;s the court filing: https://www.scribd.com/document/951000000/Karen-Read-Lawsuit#from_embed
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In PART TWO of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I&#39;m releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read&#39;s civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca.

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64: MEGA Something&#39;s Off Episode PART ONE - Karen Read sues...everyone! PLUS Brian Walshe pleads guilty + MORE
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In PART ONE of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I&#39;m releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read&#39;s civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca.

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63: SOMETHING&#39;S OFF with the final Brian Walshe pre-trial hearing (IT&#39;S SPICY) and Turtleboy responds to the McAlbert&#39;s threats
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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 5.5

Mel + Rebecca break down the final pre-trial hearing before the Dec 1 trial begins for Brian Walshe. We&#39;re back in Norfolk County and so are some of the characters from the Karen Read case. It gets SPICY.

AND Turtleboy responds to the Mcalberts threats.

TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips
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62: EARLY + AD FREE Something&#39;s Off with Jesse Butler, more Proctor emails, the Epstein files, and Lindsay Gaetani brings the receipts!
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TRIGGER WARNING: Sexual Assault and DV.
Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 5

Mel + Rebecca break down the case of rapist, Jesse Butler, who received no jail time even though he almost killed one of his victims, PLUS more Proctor emails in the Marbury V Mad email dump, holy shit the Epstein Files, annnnd Lindsey Gaetani releases an audio memo from one of the conspirators....
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61: Stillwater’s Shame: The Jesse Butler Case
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Jesse Mack Butler was charged with raping and choking two girls at Stillwater High School. Eleven felonies. One girl thought she was going to die. And somehow—he walked. No jail. No detention. Just therapy, community service, and a ban on social media.

In this episode, Mel breaks down exactly what he did, what the victims survived, and how the system—judges, prosecutors, schools—chose to prote...
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60: Something&#39;s off with the Karen Read email dump and VERDICT WATCH in the Zwerner 1st grade shooter case
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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 4

Mel + Rebecca break down the MarburyVMad (Corri Hopkins) MSP email dump from the Karen Read Trial and Mel breaks down the civil case of the 1st grade shooter who shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner.

TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips
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59: She Called for Help: The Killing of Sonya Massey
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When 36-year-old Sonya Massey—a Black mother of two—called 911 for help during a mental health crisis, she needed compassion. Instead, she was shot in the face by a white sheriff’s deputy in her own kitchen. In this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett walks listeners through the events of July 6, 2024, the bodycam footage that shook a community, the trial that followed, and the broader ...
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58:  EXTRA Something&#39;s Off w/the feds and Michael Proctor&#39;s messages and well...Jen McCabe&#39;s 911 call
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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 3.5

Mel + Rebecca break down the preservation of Michael Proctor&#39;s messages and go on a deep dive into Samanthan Benigno&#39;s analysis of the 911 call Jen McCabe made at the scene of John O&#39;Keefe&#39;s death. If you weren&#39;t already convinced the McCabes and Alberts had something to do with you, you might be after watching Sam&#39;s video. We&#39;ll li...
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57: SOMETHING&#39;S OFF with that Microdots video, Turtleboy and the Jurks, and Kelsey Fitzsimmons&#39; case eps 3
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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode Three

Mel + Rebecca get into allll the chaos surrounding Turtleboy and the other boys, updates on all things Karen Read adjacent, including Microdots, and we take a deep dive on the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case.

TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips

Join the Investigator Club (The In Between Podcast) or Crime Writer&#39;s On Patreon f...
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On September 15, 2025, 21-year-old Trey Reed—a first-generation college student at Delta State University—was found hanging from a tree on campus. Within hours, his death was ruled a suicide. No investigation. No real answers.

But Trey’s family knew something was wrong. And the deeper you look, the more disturbing the picture becomes: missing surveillance footage, a mysterious belt with no buc...
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55:  SOMETHING&#39;S OFF with Michael Proctor&#39;s iCloud, Turtleboy charges + old rumors about a body in the snow
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Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode Two

Mel + Rebecca get into allll the chaos surrounding Michael Proctor, the Fed document dump/hearings, who lied: Dever or Cox? and an old rumor that resurfaced this week about a person being hit by a plow on Fairview Road.

TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_to...
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54: CASE UPDATES: Ellen Greenburg, Michael Proctor, and Sam Nordquist
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Mel returns to three deeply unsettling cases that continue to raise serious questions:

Ellen Greenberg: A new city-commissioned review reaffirms suicide, despite 20+ stab wounds. Her family says the fight for justice is far from over.

Michael Proctor: The former state trooper withdraws his appeal after disturbing personal texts dating back to 2013 surface—some now allowed in a separate murder...
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53: NEW SHOW: Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie
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Preview SOMETHING&#39;S OFF here and join us in the Investigator Club (https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink) to get early access to new episodes, or subscribe to the YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@SomethingsOffPod) to watch Something&#39;s Off for FREE.

In our first episode, Mel Barrett a...
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52: COMING FRIDAY OCTOBER 17TH - Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie
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Fridays starting October 2025.

You know that feeling? When a case doesn’t add up, when the story feels off? That’s where Investigative Journalists and podcast hosts, Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie, come in, breaking down the crimes, the trials, and the cover-ups that make you say: Something’s Off.

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🚨 Here&#39;s ...
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51: Hiding in Plain Sight: The Murder of Leslie Preer
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In May of 2001, 49-year-old Leslie Preer was found brutally murdered inside her Chevy Chase home. For years, suspicion shadowed her husband, Sandy, who failed a polygraph and couldn’t explain his movements the night before her death. But one piece of evidence—male DNA under Leslie’s fingernails—told a different story.

Two decades later, a new generation of detectives reopened the case, armed w...
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50: TRAILER: Something&#39;s Off with Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie
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Dropping Fridays starting October 2025.

You know that feeling? When a case doesn’t add up, when the story feels off? That’s where Investigative Journalists and podcast hosts, Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie, come in, breaking down the crimes, the trials, and the cover-ups that make you say: Something’s Off.

❤️ If you like our work, click the tip jar (http://www.venmo.com/melbarrettwrites) ❤️

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49: A Savage Forest: The Megan Shaffer And Alex Stevens Case Part TWO
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In Part Two of A SAVAGE FOREST, we pick up where the mountain left off—with a body, a knife, and a story that keeps changing. The autopsy contradicts Megan’s account of a tragic accident, revealing seven deep, deliberate cuts to Alexander Stevens’ throat. As prosecutors build their case for murder, Megan’s defe...
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48: A Savage Forest: The Megan Shaffer And Alex Stevens Case
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On a freezing night in January 2017, 21-year-old Megan Shaffer and 24-year-old Alexander Stevens hiked deep into Savage River State Forest in Western Maryland. They carried candles, a knife, and even Alex’s pet cat—preparing for what Megan would later describe as a “cleansing ritual.” Hours later, Megan was rescued—naked, bruised, hypothermic—while Alex was found dead in a frozen creek, his thr...
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In February 2021, twenty-three-year-old Sandra Birchmore was found dead in her Canton, Massachusetts apartment. She was eight months pregnant. The official ruling: suicide by asphyxia. For years, that’s where the story stopped.

But when the FBI uncovered more than thirty thousand missing messages between Sandra and Stoughton Police Officer Matthew Farwell, the truth began to surface — a decade...
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46: The Martyr Machine: Charlie Kirk and the Politics of Stochastic Terrorism
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On September 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk was shot and killed on stage at Utah Valley University. The media asked, “How did we get here?” But the truth is—we already know.

In this special episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett, breaks the mold of the series to trace the long road that led to Kirk’s assassination: Donald Trump’s decades of violent rhetoric, the rise of Nick Fuentes and the Groyp...
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45: Tying It All Together: The Ellen Greenberg Case Part Two
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This week on The In Between Podcast, host Mel Barrett, revisits the aftermath of the night Ellen Greenberg was found with twenty stab wounds in her Philadelphia apartment—and the instant clash between an autopsy that pointed to homicide and a police narrative that leaned suicide. Through the “locked room” lens, Mel unpacks what the door latch could (and couldn’t) prove, why the body’s injuries ...
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