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The politics of the World Cup with Roger Bennett
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Today&#39;s episode is two parts. First, Tommy talks with Politico&#39;s Nahal Toosi about North Korea, NATO and Trump&#39;s Putin meeting. Then, Roger Bennett from Men in Blazers joins to talk about the agony, ecstasy and politics of the World Cup.
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56m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1531283419" data-format="short_date">Jul 11, 2018</span></span>
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56m
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“Abdi American”
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Tommy talks with Abdi Nor Iftin, the author of “Call Me American,” about his incredible story of survival in war-ravaged Somalia and literally winning the lottery to make it to America. 
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43m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1530774060" data-format="short_date">Jul 05, 2018</span></span>
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43m
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Cyber war
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Tommy talks with New York Times reporter David Sanger about the new world of cyber warfare. From North Korea&#39;s attack on Sony to targeting of Iran&#39;s nuclear program and Russia&#39;s invasion of Ukraine, cyber attacks are increasingly used first in war even though there&#39;s no rules of engagement and little public debate.
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45m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1530235741" data-format="short_date">Jun 29, 2018</span></span>
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45m
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Hunting terrorists
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Tommy talks with the outgoing National Counterterrorism Center chief Nick Rasmussen. Nick worked in senior counterterrorism roles for Presidents Bush, Obama and Trump, and they discussed how weird the transition from Obama to Trump was, how you hunt terrorists, how you fight ISIS propaganda, Trump&#39;s North Korea summit and more. 
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45m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1529445849" data-format="short_date">Jun 19, 2018</span></span>
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45m
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North Korea nothingburger?
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Tommy talks with defense and Asia policy expert Kelly Magsamen about Trump&#39;s just-completed summit with North Korea&#39;s Kim Jong-un. What did they accomplish? Are we safer? Should we worry about the optics of meeting with a dictator? 
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31m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1528926196" data-format="short_date">Jun 13, 2018</span></span>
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Obama&#39;s legacy after Trump
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Tommy talks with Ben Rhodes, author of the new book &quot;The World as It Is&quot;, which documents Ben&#39;s eight years working in the White House. They talk about Ben&#39;s criticisms of Obama, leading talks with Cuba and going to dinner with Raul Castro, becoming a target of right-wing attacks and more.
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48m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1528324577" data-format="short_date">Jun 06, 2018</span></span>
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48m
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White House extremists
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Tommy talks with journalist Mehdi Hasan about a troubling series of hires on Trump&#39;s National Security Council staff of individuals with far-right, paranoid, Islamaphobic views. Then they talk about the situation in Gaza now that the protests have ended and TV cameras have left.
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44m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1527813249" data-format="short_date">Jun 01, 2018</span></span>
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Trump&#39;s hostage policy
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Tommy talks with NewYorker.com executive editor David Rohde about the way Trump is handling - and showcasing - hostage negotiations as President. Rohde was held hostage by the Taliban for over seven months until he escaped in 2009.
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40m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1527038955" data-format="short_date">May 23, 2018</span></span>
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North Korea and Gaza
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Tommy talks with Washington Post reporter Anne Gearan about the on again, off again North Korea summit, the situation in Gaza and the Trump administration&#39;s response, and Rex Tillerson&#39;s harsh criticism of President Trump.
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34m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1526582412" data-format="short_date">May 17, 2018</span></span>
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34m
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Trump shreds the Iran deal
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Trump just tore up the Iran deal. Tommy talks with Ben Rhodes about what happens next. Then Tommy talks with Russia expert Mike McFaul about his new book, From Cold War to Hot Peace, about his time working at the White House and as US Ambassador to Russia.
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59m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1525821791" data-format="short_date">May 08, 2018</span></span>
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59m
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Ronan Farrow
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Tommy talks with Pulitzer Prize winning author Ronan Farrow about his new book War on Peace and the militarization of American foreign policy. 
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44m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1525276974" data-format="short_date">May 02, 2018</span></span>
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44m
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The CIA&#39;s tortured history
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Tommy talks with ACLU political director Faiz Shakir about the nomination of Gina Haspel to lead the CIA despite her role in the Bush-era torture of terrorism suspects. They also discuss the politics of national security in the Trump era, and whether Obama did enough to hold the CIA accountable for its actions.
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47m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1524812700" data-format="short_date">Apr 27, 2018</span></span>
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47m
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Syria strikes and North Korea talks
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Tommy talks with foreign policy expert Kelly Magsamen about Trump’s strikes on Syria’s chemical weapons site, his lack of a broader strategy, and her attempt to “red team” the policy options during the Obama administration. Then they talk about CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s trip to North Korea.
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34m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1524090317" data-format="short_date">Apr 18, 2018</span></span>
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34m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850585-madeleine-albright-s-warning-about-fascism"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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Madeleine Albright’s warning about fascism
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Tommy talks with former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright about the rise of fascism around the world and her concerns about how it is being enabled (and emulated) by Donald Trump. Then they talk about how Trump should respond in Syria, and Albright’s visit to North Korea in 2000 for meetings with Kim Jong-Il.
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35m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1523484196" data-format="short_date">Apr 11, 2018</span></span>
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35m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850586-mr-putin-goes-to-washington"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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Mr. Putin goes to Washington?
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Tommy talks with New Yorker writer Robin Wright about Putin’s possible visit to Washington, his relationship with Trump, and what we know about Trump the negotiator vs what’s required for success. Then they discuss Robin&#39;s visit to North Korea, the situation in Gaza, Syria and John Bolton.
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32m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1522911720" data-format="short_date">Apr 05, 2018</span></span>
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32m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850587-nowhere-to-hide-facebook-encryption-and-privacy"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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Nowhere to hide: Facebook, encryption, and privacy
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Tommy talks with Wired editor in chief Nick Thompson about the insane amount of data that Facebook and other tech companies collect on us and what we can do to erase or prevent it. Then they talk about how to use encryption to protect your communications and scary new developments that allow you to make fake videos of real people.
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35m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1522393500" data-format="short_date">Mar 30, 2018</span></span>
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35m
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Fresh Prince of Saudi Arabia
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Tommy talks with Washington Post columnist David Ignatius about Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s visit to the United States and his &quot;reform agenda&quot;. Then they discuss Trump’s call with Putin, reports that he ignored his staff’s plea to be tougher, and the risk of North Korea negotiations. 
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30m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1521687263" data-format="short_date">Mar 22, 2018</span></span>
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30m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850589-the-worst-secretary-of-state-in-history-rex-tillerson"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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The worst Secretary of State in history, Rex Tillerson
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Tommy giddily discusses Rex Tillerson’s firing by tweet with Politico foreign affairs correspondent Nahal Toosi. Then they discuss suspected assassination of Putin enemies in London and Nahal’s exclusive report about Trump administration attacks on career State Department staffers.

 

 
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33m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1521183780" data-format="short_date">Mar 16, 2018</span></span>
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33m
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Can’t out-crazy Kim Jong-un
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Tommy talks with Asia expert Danny Russel about reports that North Korea is willing to begin negotiations with the US about abandoning its nuclear weapons.
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33m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1520409720" data-format="short_date">Mar 07, 2018</span></span>
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33m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850591-the-deep-state-strikes-back"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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The Deep State Strikes Back
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Tommy talks with Jake Sullivan and Ben Rhodes about their new organization to oppose Trump’s foreign policy and promote a progressive vision of American leadership. Then they discuss what it means for Jared Kushner to have his security clearance downgraded, the status of the Iran deal, and the NSA Director’s plea for a directive to combat Russian hacking.
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45m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1519978020" data-format="short_date">Mar 02, 2018</span></span>
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45m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850592-bribes-bibi-and-the-future-of-israel"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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Bribes, Bibi and the future of Israel
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Tommy talks with Nathan Guttman, the Washington bureau chief of The Forward, about the corruption scandals swirling around Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. They walk through the facts, what happens next, and what it means for US/Israeli relations and the Middle East peace process. 



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29m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1519373280" data-format="short_date">Feb 23, 2018</span></span>
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29m
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Nuclear-armed frenemies
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Tommy talks with Steve Coll, author of Directorate S: The C.I.A. and America&#39;s Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan, about why the hell we’re still fighting in Afghanistan after 17 years and the destabilizing influence of our nuclear-armed frenemy, Pakistan.
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37m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1518768300" data-format="short_date">Feb 16, 2018</span></span>
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37m
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850594-held-hostage-in-syria"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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Held hostage in Syria
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Tommy talks with war photographer Jonathan Alpeyrie about being held hostage by rebel fighters for nearly three months in Syria. 
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34m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1518163500" data-format="short_date">Feb 09, 2018</span></span>
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34m
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Inching closer to nuclear war
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Tommy talks with New York Times editor and writer Max Fisher about disconcerting signs that the Trump administration is seriously considering a military attack on North Korea. Then they talk about how ambiguous demands about US credibility can lead us to make terrible foreign policy decisions, and the changing expectations in Afghanistan.

 

 
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40m
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Why China loves Jared
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Tommy talks with New Yorker staff writer Evan Osnos about China’s frantic post-election efforts to build a relationship with Jared Kushner, and why the “Kushner channel&quot; makes American counterintelligence officials so nervous. They also discuss the shockingly-wide distribution of sensitive intelligence in the Trump White House, and how Evan feels about the threat from North Korea roughly six mo...
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35m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1516954080" data-format="short_date">Jan 26, 2018</span></span>
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Pod Save the World Live!
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Tommy talks with Ben Rhodes, Ambassador Samantha Power and Greg Barker about the documentary The Final Year, which follows President Obama’s foreign policy team during the final year of his administration. They discuss Obama’s foreign policy legacy, ruptures over Syria, and how Trump’s election upended everything. The Final Year is in theaters and available on iTunes starting Friday, January 19...
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1hr 16m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1516349040" data-format="short_date">Jan 19, 2018</span></span>
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The Terrorist Interrogator
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Tommy talks with former FBI Special Agent Ali Soufan about his work interrogating terrorists and investigating the bombing of the USS Cole and the 9/11 attacks. They discuss the changing threat from al Qaeda and ISIS and what we need to know about these terrorist groups to stop them.
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41m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1515744480" data-format="short_date">Jan 12, 2018</span></span>
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41m
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Iranian revolution
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Tommy talks with former top Obama foreign policy advisor Ben Rhodes about the protests sweeping across Iran, Trump’s response, how today compares with the 2009 Green Revolution and Obama’s response, and what it could mean for the Iran deal. Then they vent about how terrible the discussion about Iran is in DC / on Twitter. 
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51m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1515139620" data-format="short_date">Jan 05, 2018</span></span>
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Drumbeat of war with North Korea
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Tommy talks with Republican foreign policy expert Kori Schake about the eery similarity between the Trump administration’s comments about North Korea and the Bush administration’s rhetoric in the run-up to the Iraq war. 
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38m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1513930500" data-format="short_date">Dec 22, 2017</span></span>
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Infiltrating al Qaeda
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Tommy interviewed undercover FBI agent Tamer Elnoury about his work penetrating and disrupting an al Qaeda cell plotting attacks in Canada and the United States. They discussed what it was like to live with and pretend to become a terrorist, including having to visit the Ground Zero memorial with a man who took pride in the 9/11 attacks and wanted to repeat them. His book, AMERICAN RADICAL, is ...
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39m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1513325280" data-format="short_date">Dec 15, 2017</span></span>
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Jerusalem went to Jared
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Tommy talks with Politico’s foreign affairs correspondent Nahal Toosi about Trump’s controversial decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Then they discussed news reports indicating Rex Tillerson’s disastrous tenure as Secretary of State may be coming to a close. It was lit. 
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40m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1512720420" data-format="short_date">Dec 08, 2017</span></span>
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40m
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On the ground in Burma
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Tommy talks with Senator Jeff Merkley about his fact-finding mission to Burma and Bangladesh to learn more about the ongoing ethnic cleansing and refugee crisis. They also discussed the Trump administration’s almost non-existent response, how social media has exacerbated the problem, and what Congress is trying to do to help.

 

 
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33m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1512115500" data-format="short_date">Dec 01, 2017</span></span>
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Mugabe is the George Washington of Zimbabwe
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Tommy talks with Africa expert Ambassador Johnnie Carson about the coup in Zimbabwe that toppled Robert Mugabe, and the recent political turmoil in Kenya. 
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45m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1511510940" data-format="short_date">Nov 24, 2017</span></span>
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WTF happened in Lebanon and ISIS update
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Tommy talks with Middle East and ISIS expert Rob Malley about the resignation of Lebanon’s Prime Minister and how it plays into a broader middle east proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Then they talk about the fight against ISIS and the major NYT magazine story about civilians casualties in Iraq.

 

 
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54m
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Trump’s adventures in Asia
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Tommy and Asia expert and career diplomat Danny Russel discuss President Trump’s five nation, 13 day trip to Asia. They cover North Korea, Trump’s decision to meet with a mass murderer in the Philippines, and China’s political system. 
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1hr 1m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1510301460" data-format="short_date">Nov 10, 2017</span></span>
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1hr 1m
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Middle East Peace
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Tommy talks with former Senator Majority Leader and US Special Envoy for Middle East Peace George Mitchell and Alon Sachar about their book A Path to Peace, which details the history of the Middle East peace process and their efforts to forge an agreement during the Obama administration.
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53m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1509519900" data-format="short_date">Nov 01, 2017</span></span>
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Hunting Osama bin Laden
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Tommy sits down with Michael Morell, the former acting Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. They discuss his experience as President Bush’s briefer on 9/11, hunting Osama bin Laden, the state of ISIS, North Korea and the impending release of the JFK assassination files. It was sick.
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50m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1508915400" data-format="short_date">Oct 25, 2017</span></span>
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<a class="text-decoration-none" href="/posts/8850609-a-civil-bipartisan-foreign-policy-discussion-aka-clickbait"><div class="Episode-list-grid card-body pan">
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A civil, bipartisan foreign policy discussion (aka clickbait)
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Tommy talks with Republican Congressman and Air Force veteran Adam Kinzinger. They discuss Trump’s decision to decertify the Iran deal, North Korea, Senator Corker’s criticism of Trump, the war in Afghanistan and how to understand our fight against terrorism. 
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34m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1508310300" data-format="short_date">Oct 18, 2017</span></span>
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34m
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A republican critique of Trump’s foreign policy
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Tommy and Eliot Cohen, a counselor to Condoleezza Rice during the Bush administration, talks about his Atlantic piece “How Trump is Ending the American Era” and try to figure out what constitutes a Republican and Democratic foreign policy worldview in 2017. 
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38m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1507705680" data-format="short_date">Oct 11, 2017</span></span>
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38m
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Mystery attacks in Cuba and the man who ran the Navy
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First, Tommy talks with Ben Rhodes about the mysterious attacks on our diplomats in Havana and the Trump administration’s decision to expel Cuban officials in response. Then, he’s joined by former Navy Secretary Ray Mabus to discuss his eight years leading the Navy as well as his time as the US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.
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59m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1507100760" data-format="short_date">Oct 04, 2017</span></span>
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The rise of the European far-right
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Tommy talks with Europe expert Dr. Karen Donfried about the German elections and the rise of the far-right AfD party. They also discuss why Russian hacking efforts didn’t work in Germany, what European capitals will do if Trump pulls out of the Iran deal, and how they view his war of words with North Korea.
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32m
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1506495780" data-format="short_date">Sep 27, 2017</span></span>
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Crisis in Burma
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Tommy talks with New York Times columnist Nick Kristof and Nexus Fund Executive Director Sally Smith about the ongoing ethnic cleansing happening right now in Burma.
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Republican Congressman Will Hurd
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Tommy talks with Will Hurd, a Republican representing Texas’s 23rd Congressional District, who served in the CIA for nearly a decade. They discussed Hurd’s role at the CIA, what motivated him to run for office, the Iran deal and ISIS.
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War Policy
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Tommy talks with former Lieutenant General and Ambassador to NATO Doug Lute about his six years managing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for Presidents Bush and Obama. 
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North Korea update then the Army’s CEO
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Tommy gets an update on North Korea’s latest provocations from Asia expert Evan Medeiros. Then he talks with Eric Fanning, the former Secretary of the Army and the first openly gay head service secretary in history, about Trump’s transgender ban and his career at the Pentagon.
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<span><span class="js-time" data-epochtime="1504249500" data-format="short_date">Sep 01, 2017</span></span>
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Crisis in Venezuela
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Tommy speaks former AP correspondent Hannah Dreier about the ongoing humanitarian and political crisis in Venezuela. Dreier was the last American journalist to get a permanent work visa when she arrived in Venezuela in 2014 and reported from the capitol until June.
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29m
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Trump&#39;s new war plan
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Tommy talks with defense policy expert Kelly Magsamen about President Trump&#39;s speech announcing his Afghan war policy. They evaluate the substance of his plan and discuss whether any approach can actually improve the situation on the ground and allow us to get out.
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Right-wing radicals and CIA secrets
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Tommy talks with former Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano about her efforts to combat right-wing extremists. Then he is joined by former Deputy CIA Director David Cohen to talk about what it was like to learn the world’s most closely guarded secrets, how the CIA works, and hear his David’s views on North Korea and Iran’s nuclear programs. 
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Emergency North Korea update then Putin’s #1 enemy
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Former Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes talks through Trump’s promise of “fire and fury” if North Korea threatens the US and today’s reports on advances in North Korea&#39;s nuclear program. Then Tommy is joined by Bill Browder, a businessman who became Putin’s #1 enemy after exposing corruption in Russia. Browder was the driving force behind the Magnitsky Act sanctions to punish Russian...
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Are they gonna’ nuke us?
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Tommy talks with former Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken about the Iran deal, whether it’s working, and if we can apply the lessons learned to the dangerous situation in North Korea. Then they talk about Secretary Tillerson’s record at State and tensions in Israel and Venezuela. Both of them really miss Joe Biden.
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