"Time for an emotional reset, the Premier League is what really matters to #avfc!" Phil Williams talks to Jonny Gould.
After tension overload from the FA Cup weekend, Phil Williams is urging Aston Villa to refocus minds firmly on Premier League survival.
The BBC Radio 5 Live presenter, who's on-air weeknights from 10.30pm says a day-out at Wembley is one thing - but Villa must stay up.
Phil, a lifelong Villa fan from his childhood growing up in Birmingham believes the away game at Sunderland is even more important for Villa for their future as a big-time club.
Here he is in conversation with another Villa nut, Jonny Gould.