1 00:00:25,231 --> 00:00:27,973 SEAN DOUGLAS: Hello and welcome to the National Trust Podcast. 2 00:00:28,473 --> 00:00:31,596 I'm Sean Douglas, Podcast Producer at the National Trust 3 00:00:32,076 --> 00:00:35,559 and today we're bringing you a story which is quite literally 4 00:00:35,899 --> 00:00:36,900 out of this world. 5 00:00:37,761 --> 00:00:42,024 It started five years ago with the seeds of an idea. It needed 6 00:00:42,124 --> 00:00:45,607 a massive team effort and was inspired by nature. 7 00:00:52,613 --> 00:00:56,095 Today, rather than starting our journey in the grounds of a 8 00:00:56,115 --> 00:00:59,939 National Trust property, we've made our way to the iconic 9 00:01:00,019 --> 00:01:03,861 biospheres and exotic plant collection of the Eden Project 10 00:01:03,981 --> 00:01:05,262 in St Austell Cornwall. 11 00:01:06,082 --> 00:01:10,124 Amongst all of Eden's exciting flora and fauna sits a very 12 00:01:10,324 --> 00:01:14,466 ordinary looking apple tree sapling that looks a bit out of 13 00:01:14,526 --> 00:01:14,906 place. 14 00:01:15,506 --> 00:01:19,188 It's skinny and spindly and compared to some of its 15 00:01:19,288 --> 00:01:22,289 neighbours looks a little plain Jane. 16 00:01:22,289 --> 00:01:25,190 But you should never judge a book by its cover because this 17 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:28,772 sapling has one inspirational story to tell. 18 00:01:39,982 --> 00:01:41,843 TIMOTHY PEAKE: There's an incredible amount of power, 19 00:01:42,303 --> 00:01:46,564 noise and vibration as the engines accelerate to full 20 00:01:46,624 --> 00:01:50,065 thrust. There's not a huge amount of acceleration in the 21 00:01:50,085 --> 00:01:53,666 first few seconds. It's 300 tonnes of rocket lifting off. 22 00:01:55,346 --> 00:01:57,967 My name is Tim Peake and I'm an astronaut with the European 23 00:01:58,027 --> 00:01:58,747 Space Agency. 24 00:01:59,347 --> 00:02:03,209 SEAN DOUGLAS: The date is the 15th of December. 2015 and Tim 25 00:02:03,209 --> 00:02:06,069 has hitched a ride on the Russian Soyuz rocket on a 26 00:02:06,109 --> 00:02:10,031 mission to the International Space Station. Quite possibly 27 00:02:10,371 --> 00:02:12,271 the commute of a lifetime. 28 00:02:13,071 --> 00:02:14,852 TIMOTHY PEAKE: Quite quickly after leaving the launch pad 29 00:02:14,892 --> 00:02:18,273 that's when the acceleration really kicks in. You're on the 30 00:02:18,313 --> 00:02:18,513 way. 31 00:02:20,353 --> 00:02:23,574 It's far noisier outside the rocket for the spectators who 32 00:02:23,614 --> 00:02:24,755 are about a kilometer away. 33 00:02:26,235 --> 00:02:29,016 Inside we have a number of different stages to go through. 34 00:02:30,104 --> 00:02:32,965 The first stage will take up to about 60 kilometers. 35 00:02:34,405 --> 00:02:37,526 And then we jettison the first stage boosters. And at that 36 00:02:37,606 --> 00:02:41,167 point, we have a really big drop in acceleration as those first 37 00:02:41,187 --> 00:02:42,287 stage boosters fall away. 38 00:02:43,548 --> 00:02:47,369 It's a much gentler, smoother ride on the second stage with 39 00:02:47,409 --> 00:02:49,149 just one engine firing. 40 00:02:50,090 --> 00:02:52,850 That gets us above the Earth's atmosphere. And that's when the 41 00:02:52,870 --> 00:02:56,051 nose fairing jettisons so we can get to see the view of space 42 00:02:56,071 --> 00:02:57,131 approaching through the window. 43 00:02:58,592 --> 00:03:02,778 And then there's the third stage kicks in, and that is pure 44 00:03:02,798 --> 00:03:03,478 acceleration. 45 00:03:05,139 --> 00:03:08,921 Up to about 4Gs of acceleration. It just goes on and on and on. 46 00:03:08,921 --> 00:03:11,623 The whole launch sequence lasts for nearly 9 minutes. 47 00:03:11,883 --> 00:03:15,505 The idea, of course, is to get you up to about 220 kilometers 48 00:03:15,605 --> 00:03:19,247 at about 25 times the speed of sound. So it's a wild ride. 49 00:03:20,007 --> 00:03:23,569 You really are feeling the full force of that rocket's 50 00:03:23,889 --> 00:03:26,931 acceleration. And then, you know, within a fraction of a 51 00:03:26,971 --> 00:03:28,592 second, the engine cuts out. 52 00:03:29,888 --> 00:03:33,109 And we're in Zero G. 53 00:03:33,109 --> 00:03:37,290 Very quiet very peaceful and everything floats inside the 54 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:43,792 spacecraft and you know that you've safely made it to orbit. 55 00:03:43,792 --> 00:03:46,393 SEAN DOUGLAS: The ability to fly into space is quite a recent 56 00:03:46,433 --> 00:03:50,034 phenomenon but the principles that made it possible are much 57 00:03:50,174 --> 00:03:51,994 much older. 58 00:03:51,994 --> 00:03:56,555 It all started hundreds of years ago on the 25th of December and 59 00:03:56,555 --> 00:03:59,912 with the birth of a very special child. 60 00:03:59,912 --> 00:04:03,215 Richard Fairhead, National Trust volunteer, explains more. 61 00:04:07,218 --> 00:04:10,541 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: On the 25th of December, a baby was born 62 00:04:10,761 --> 00:04:12,242 surrounded by farm animals. 63 00:04:13,663 --> 00:04:18,347 Some chickens, a few pigs, I have no doubt, and some fields 64 00:04:18,387 --> 00:04:19,228 for vegetables. 65 00:04:20,009 --> 00:04:22,971 The main crop, if you can call it a crop, were sheep. 66 00:04:23,812 --> 00:04:25,913 In Lincolnshire, of course, sheep and wool were very 67 00:04:25,994 --> 00:04:30,264 important in those days. And his mother was very keen that he 68 00:04:30,285 --> 00:04:31,485 should take on the farm. 69 00:04:32,285 --> 00:04:34,887 SEAN DOUGLAS: But rather than agriculture, this young man had 70 00:04:34,927 --> 00:04:36,608 his mind set on other things. 71 00:04:39,929 --> 00:04:42,010 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: He was interested in how things worked. 72 00:04:42,330 --> 00:04:43,451 He made models. 73 00:04:43,851 --> 00:04:48,994 There was one famous model he made of a windmill. He took it 74 00:04:49,034 --> 00:04:53,276 out into the field and the wind blew and it turned the sails 75 00:04:53,296 --> 00:04:53,956 just as it should. 76 00:04:57,260 --> 00:05:01,154 And the story goes on that he brought it indoors and began to 77 00:05:01,515 --> 00:05:03,763 think, well, it's not going to work indoors, there's no wind. 78 00:05:04,631 --> 00:05:07,253 He thought about this for some time and came up with the idea. 79 00:05:08,193 --> 00:05:11,596 He made a little treadmill, like you have in a hamster cage, 80 00:05:12,456 --> 00:05:16,019 found a real mouse, put the mouse in the treadmill, the 81 00:05:16,059 --> 00:05:18,220 mouse did its stuff, and turned the sails. 82 00:05:18,861 --> 00:05:22,363 I think that's an indication of his practical approach to things 83 00:05:22,383 --> 00:05:26,486 and his inquisitiveness. That practical approach to life 84 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:28,387 really saw him through the rest of his life. 85 00:05:30,149 --> 00:05:35,132 When he became a teenager, his mother sent him to Grantham to 86 00:05:35,132 --> 00:05:36,292 the King's School. 87 00:05:37,833 --> 00:05:40,254 SEAN DOUGLAS: But school sadly didn't give this young man the 88 00:05:40,294 --> 00:05:44,515 kind of education that he needed to feed his inquisitive mind. 89 00:05:45,176 --> 00:05:46,956 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: They weren't teaching much in the way of 90 00:05:47,017 --> 00:05:49,838 science and the sort of things that he was really interested 91 00:05:49,898 --> 00:05:50,018 in. 92 00:05:51,118 --> 00:05:54,059 SEAN DOUGLAS: And despite having her mind set on him taking over 93 00:05:54,059 --> 00:05:57,421 the farm after school, his mother was eventually persuaded 94 00:05:57,661 --> 00:05:59,542 to let him go to university. 95 00:06:00,322 --> 00:06:05,504 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: In 1661, he went off to Cambridge, to 96 00:06:05,604 --> 00:06:06,544 Trinity College. 97 00:06:10,345 --> 00:06:13,246 SEAN DOUGLAS: And even here, he still wasn't able to get the 98 00:06:13,266 --> 00:06:15,346 kind of education that he desired. 99 00:06:15,546 --> 00:06:18,347 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: There wasn't much science again in the degree 100 00:06:18,427 --> 00:06:22,128 course. It wasn't considered a serious subject in those days. 101 00:06:22,708 --> 00:06:26,650 SEAN DOUGLAS: But finally, in 1665, he got his degree. And 102 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:30,411 free to study more autonomously, he was able to research the 103 00:06:30,511 --> 00:06:34,100 things that interested him. But this was short-lived. 104 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:40,405 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: In 1665, in London, the plague hit, the 105 00:06:40,425 --> 00:06:44,928 bubonic plague, and it was beginning to go out to other 106 00:06:45,008 --> 00:06:46,029 parts of the country. 107 00:06:46,609 --> 00:06:50,092 And they were so worried at Cambridge that if it got there, 108 00:06:50,432 --> 00:06:53,574 with all the people meeting in the university, it would be a 109 00:06:53,654 --> 00:06:58,658 real disaster. So they took the decision to close the university 110 00:06:59,078 --> 00:07:00,279 and sent everybody home. 111 00:07:02,239 --> 00:07:04,381 SEAN DOUGLAS: So our young scientist was sent back to 112 00:07:04,441 --> 00:07:07,924 Lincoln to social distance. But far from disrupting his 113 00:07:08,004 --> 00:07:11,627 research, lockdown gave him the time and space to immerse 114 00:07:11,647 --> 00:07:13,008 himself in his work. 115 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:18,713 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: So in about a year and a half, he got started 116 00:07:18,773 --> 00:07:24,357 on some of his big ideas. And so that year was so important. The 117 00:07:24,437 --> 00:07:26,119 world changed in that year. 118 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,161 SEAN DOUGLAS: He studied religion and philosophy, 119 00:07:29,662 --> 00:07:33,544 experimented with lenses. And was the first to split white 120 00:07:33,584 --> 00:07:36,666 light into its rainbow spectrum with a prism. 121 00:07:37,846 --> 00:07:40,828 But it was an incidence of happenstance while he was 122 00:07:40,908 --> 00:07:44,790 relaxing in his apple orchard that would lead to his greatest 123 00:07:44,830 --> 00:07:45,451 discovery. 124 00:07:46,731 --> 00:07:49,053 RICHARD FAIRHEAD: He was sitting underneath the tree, probably 125 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:52,755 reading a book, thinking about some theory he was following up. 126 00:07:53,295 --> 00:07:57,577 And as apples do, one of them fell down beside him. 127 00:07:58,918 --> 00:08:00,759 And I guess he was startled. 128 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:03,740 He looked up to see where the apple had come from and he began 129 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,261 to think what makes things fall directly to the Earth? 130 00:08:07,261 --> 00:08:10,001 Is there some sort of attraction? Is there some sort 131 00:08:10,001 --> 00:08:12,082 of force which is involved? 132 00:08:12,082 --> 00:08:15,523 And of course he thought about this over the years to come and 133 00:08:15,563 --> 00:08:19,144 in time came up with this whole theory of his about gravity. 134 00:08:20,484 --> 00:08:22,745 SEAN DOUGLAS: So in case you haven't guessed it yet the man 135 00:08:22,805 --> 00:08:26,826 we're talking about is sir Isaac Newton and the property the 136 00:08:26,866 --> 00:08:30,527 National Trust's Woolsthorpe Manor in Lincoln still home you 137 00:08:30,567 --> 00:08:31,747 to Newton's apple tree. 138 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:36,469 His theory of gravity is something we now take for 139 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:40,791 granted but in the 1600s according to Dr Cornelius 140 00:08:40,851 --> 00:08:45,533 Schilt, postdoctoral scholar at Oxford, this realisation had a 141 00:08:45,713 --> 00:08:47,094 monumental impact. 142 00:08:48,394 --> 00:08:50,755 CORNELIUS SCHILT: It changed the world of mathematics and the 143 00:08:50,775 --> 00:08:54,677 world of natural philosophy to such a degree that the entire 144 00:08:54,717 --> 00:08:56,698 18th century, so the following century. 145 00:08:56,938 --> 00:09:00,823 Was basically designed as a confirmation of what Newton had 146 00:09:00,863 --> 00:09:01,203 written. 147 00:09:01,544 --> 00:09:04,266 SEAN DOUGLAS: However, despite the revolutionary impact of 148 00:09:04,386 --> 00:09:07,728 Isaac's encounter, gravity may not have been something that 149 00:09:07,868 --> 00:09:11,731 occupied many of his thoughts. In fact, it may have been 150 00:09:11,791 --> 00:09:14,193 something that he almost forgot about. 151 00:09:14,433 --> 00:09:16,835 CORNELIUS SCHILT: He's much more interested in optics. His first 152 00:09:16,855 --> 00:09:18,436 publications are actually in optics. 153 00:09:18,836 --> 00:09:21,638 He makes his own reflecting telescopes. He's not really 154 00:09:21,718 --> 00:09:23,099 thinking about gravity. 155 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,901 He's not interested in it anymore. 156 00:09:25,461 --> 00:09:29,648 SEAN DOUGLAS: But for some reason, in 1684, 20 years after 157 00:09:29,688 --> 00:09:34,090 his apple inspiration, suddenly his thoughts once again turned 158 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:34,810 to gravity. 159 00:09:35,231 --> 00:09:37,832 CORNELIUS SCHILT: Out of the blue he drops everything that 160 00:09:37,852 --> 00:09:41,414 he's doing and he starts writing the Principia and the next year 161 00:09:41,434 --> 00:09:44,196 and a half is devoted to just the Principia. 162 00:09:44,696 --> 00:09:47,137 SEAN DOUGLAS: The Principia or to give it its full name, 163 00:09:47,437 --> 00:09:51,420 Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica was a three-volume 164 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,162 publication where Newton first described his theory for the 165 00:09:55,322 --> 00:09:57,243 universal law of gravitation. 166 00:09:57,867 --> 00:10:00,032 CORNELIUS SCHILT: When the Principia came out it was 167 00:10:00,112 --> 00:10:04,649 recognized as a masterpiece. This book solved so many 168 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:05,310 problems. 169 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:11,774 So it gave him instant fame. In 1684, no one knew Isaac Newton. 170 00:10:12,214 --> 00:10:14,335 Oh yeah, there was that man who had written something about 171 00:10:14,395 --> 00:10:16,596 optics, about light, about colours, and that's all wrong. 172 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:21,499 And then in 1687, he's recognised as Europe's best 173 00:10:21,619 --> 00:10:22,500 scientist ever. 174 00:10:22,780 --> 00:10:24,981 SEAN DOUGLAS: Up until the publication of Newton's Law, 175 00:10:25,382 --> 00:10:28,343 there were various schools of thought in what was then called 176 00:10:28,423 --> 00:10:32,734 natural philosophy. Observations and calculations were made about 177 00:10:32,794 --> 00:10:35,376 natural phenomena but in isolation. 178 00:10:35,896 --> 00:10:39,819 So observing the planets without the stars or observing the stars 179 00:10:39,819 --> 00:10:43,341 and the planets without thinking about how it's connected to what 180 00:10:43,382 --> 00:10:44,322 happens on Earth. 181 00:10:44,823 --> 00:10:47,925 Here's Dr Thomas Sotiriou, Professor of Gravitational 182 00:10:47,965 --> 00:10:50,306 Physics at the University Of Nottingham. 183 00:10:50,727 --> 00:10:54,630 THOMAS SOTIRIOU: It describes the motion of every object under 184 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:56,371 the influence of the force of gravity. 185 00:10:56,751 --> 00:11:00,398 So it can describe projectiles, it can describe the motion of 186 00:11:00,418 --> 00:11:00,798 planets. 187 00:11:00,818 --> 00:11:03,140 It can describe the motion of satellites, and that is exactly 188 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,982 what makes it useful, that it's not an empirical description of 189 00:11:06,002 --> 00:11:07,123 just one phenomenon. 190 00:11:07,484 --> 00:11:11,207 You can later use it to describe a huge array of phenomena. So in 191 00:11:11,227 --> 00:11:13,689 this sense, it is the foundation for space travel. 192 00:11:14,830 --> 00:11:17,872 SEAN DOUGLAS: And hundreds of miles above our heads, traveling 193 00:11:17,992 --> 00:11:23,097 at 25 times the speed of sound, Tim Peake was also pondering the 194 00:11:23,237 --> 00:11:27,520 universal laws that kept him on a solid trajectory. Towards the 195 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,001 International Space Station. 196 00:11:29,381 --> 00:11:32,782 TIMOTHY PEAKE: It's amazing to think of how advanced the 197 00:11:32,963 --> 00:11:36,504 theories and principles are from hundreds of years ago that have 198 00:11:36,544 --> 00:11:37,745 stood the test of time. 199 00:11:38,525 --> 00:11:40,646 SEAN DOUGLAS: Tim was so inspired by Newton's work that 200 00:11:40,706 --> 00:11:44,747 he actually named his space mission Principia and his space 201 00:11:44,787 --> 00:11:49,209 patch depicted the famous apple falling from the tree. Also, 202 00:11:49,369 --> 00:11:52,791 travelling beside him in the capsule was one more gesture of 203 00:11:52,871 --> 00:11:56,912 homage to Newton, his work and that inspirational tree. 204 00:11:58,453 --> 00:12:02,735 This started from a seed of an idea from Libby Jackson, Human 205 00:12:02,875 --> 00:12:07,137 Exploration Manager at the UK Space Agency, when she realised 206 00:12:07,337 --> 00:12:10,818 that Newton's apple tree still stands in the grounds of 207 00:12:10,858 --> 00:12:11,579 Woolsthorpe Manor. 208 00:12:12,419 --> 00:12:13,600 LIBBY JACKSON: I had this idea. 209 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,860 I think it was my idea. 210 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:18,662 Tim's flight had obviously been named after Principia and I knew 211 00:12:18,682 --> 00:12:21,003 the apple tree was there. I wonder if we could get some of 212 00:12:21,003 --> 00:12:23,884 those seeds from the apple tree and send them up into space. 213 00:12:24,888 --> 00:12:27,350 SEAN DOUGLAS: After getting the idea greenlit by the National 214 00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:31,732 Trust and the UK Space Agency, Libby realised she had a 215 00:12:31,853 --> 00:12:33,534 slightly daunting task. 216 00:12:33,714 --> 00:12:37,076 LIBBY JACKSON: I remember seeing, I think it was 12 seeds 217 00:12:37,136 --> 00:12:41,118 came in this little wrapped up foil pouch and then it was my 218 00:12:41,179 --> 00:12:42,499 job to make sure they got into space. 219 00:12:43,180 --> 00:12:44,200 SEAN DOUGLAS: Here's Tim Peake again. 220 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,002 TIMOTHY PEAKE: They didn't come up by the traditional method 221 00:12:47,022 --> 00:12:49,003 because I think they were a little bit late in being 222 00:12:49,044 --> 00:12:53,829 delivered. And so I think they were given to me in Baikonur and 223 00:12:53,849 --> 00:12:59,110 they had to go into my Soyuz spacecraft. But it was all kind 224 00:12:59,110 --> 00:13:01,371 of accounted for. It was just a little bit late in the day that 225 00:13:01,391 --> 00:13:01,911 they arrived. 226 00:13:02,351 --> 00:13:05,132 SEAN DOUGLAS: While on the ISS with Tim, those apple seeds were 227 00:13:05,172 --> 00:13:09,853 subject to the same extreme forces, zero Gs and radiation as 228 00:13:09,953 --> 00:13:11,574 Tim and the rest of the crew. 229 00:13:11,954 --> 00:13:13,794 TIMOTHY PEAKE: It's an interesting experiment to do to 230 00:13:13,854 --> 00:13:17,636 see how they grow, see if there's any change to the trees. 231 00:13:18,416 --> 00:13:22,278 But also it's a very nice way of linking the mission back to Sir 232 00:13:22,418 --> 00:13:24,560 Isaac Newton and the incredible work that he did. 233 00:13:24,981 --> 00:13:27,363 SEAN DOUGLAS: The seeds made it safely back to Earth and the 234 00:13:27,403 --> 00:13:30,565 project team waited with bated breath to see if the seeds would 235 00:13:30,585 --> 00:13:32,347 grow into healthy space saplings. 236 00:13:32,807 --> 00:13:36,870 And of the 13 that flew with Tim, 10 started to grow into 237 00:13:37,011 --> 00:13:39,853 healthy siblings of Newton's famous apple tree. 238 00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:43,656 But now that we had them, we started to think, what would be 239 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:47,499 the best way to utilise these inspirational and historic 240 00:13:47,599 --> 00:13:48,040 trees? 241 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,942 GENERIC: Welcome everybody to Woolsthorpe Manor. I'm sure 242 00:13:53,682 --> 00:13:55,743 pretty much most of you will have been to some of the 243 00:13:55,743 --> 00:13:56,983 fabulous Gravity Fields talks that we've had this week. 244 00:13:56,983 --> 00:13:59,004 SEAN DOUGLAS: Then at Gravity Fields, which is essentially 245 00:13:59,064 --> 00:14:02,485 Glastonbury for the world of science, this special appeal 246 00:14:02,566 --> 00:14:03,686 video was played. 247 00:14:04,806 --> 00:14:07,467 GENERIC: Most people in this room will know Tim Peake. 248 00:14:11,549 --> 00:14:14,150 TIMOTHY PEAKE: Hi, I'm European Space Agency astronaut Tim 249 00:14:14,230 --> 00:14:16,891 Peake. Thanks to careful nurturing at Kew, The Apple 250 00:14:16,951 --> 00:14:20,093 Pips, which flew with me in space, have now grown into fine 251 00:14:20,113 --> 00:14:20,733 young trees. 252 00:14:21,453 --> 00:14:24,554 We want to find partners to give them somewhere to grow, to help 253 00:14:24,615 --> 00:14:28,296 tell their story and continue to inspire potential future Isaac 254 00:14:28,376 --> 00:14:31,597 Newtons. Would you like a space sapling? Tell us why by 255 00:14:31,657 --> 00:14:33,418 contacting the UK Space Agency. 256 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:38,740 SEAN DOUGLAS: So the stage was set and organisations from 257 00:14:38,921 --> 00:14:42,122 across the country made their appeals for one of our unique 258 00:14:42,162 --> 00:14:46,604 space saplings and after much deliberation in January earlier 259 00:14:46,644 --> 00:14:49,928 this year a presentation for the winners was held at Woolsthorpe 260 00:14:49,948 --> 00:14:53,253 Manor and you know what? It was a pretty big deal. 261 00:14:57,580 --> 00:14:59,723 CLAIRE GALLEN: My name is Claire Gallen and I'm the Marketing 262 00:14:59,743 --> 00:15:04,252 Officer for Woolsthorpe Manor. Today is the award ceremony for 263 00:15:04,252 --> 00:15:06,213 the Newton's Space sapplings project. 264 00:15:06,934 --> 00:15:08,935 SEAN DOUGLAS: The event was the talk of the town and it felt 265 00:15:08,975 --> 00:15:12,017 like everyone wanted a piece of our space sapplings. 266 00:15:12,778 --> 00:15:17,000 GENERIC: Sky News, National BBC and Local BBC. As with these 267 00:15:17,020 --> 00:15:19,002 exciting events, everybody wants to be involved. 268 00:15:19,722 --> 00:15:22,504 SEAN DOUGLAS: And with the venue filling up, hospitality and 269 00:15:22,564 --> 00:15:25,947 catering were done in a uniquely Woolsthorpey way. 270 00:15:26,667 --> 00:15:28,488 GENERIC: A lot of things have got the apple in. 271 00:15:28,769 --> 00:15:33,332 Duck, mandarin bites. Apples and liver. Also we've managed to get 272 00:15:33,512 --> 00:15:35,914 the Newton's Fizzisics, the apple juice. 273 00:15:37,115 --> 00:15:38,996 Everybody's ready, everybody knows what they're doing, I know 274 00:15:38,996 --> 00:15:40,518 what I'm supposed to be doing! 275 00:15:40,518 --> 00:15:43,060 Everyone's sort of arriving and the big star attraction is we've 276 00:15:43,060 --> 00:15:46,182 got Tim Peake coming to give the winners their trees. 277 00:15:46,983 --> 00:15:49,725 I'm waiting to meet Tim Peake, that's a bit I'm getting very 278 00:15:49,765 --> 00:15:50,746 excited about. 279 00:15:50,746 --> 00:15:54,829 CLAIRE GALLEN: It's about quarter past 12. 280 00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:58,270 Most of the guests have arrived. We've got 15 minutes now for 281 00:15:58,731 --> 00:16:00,791 some more mingling and nibbles and then the speeches. 282 00:16:02,412 --> 00:16:05,241 GENERIC: Tim Peake, please do come and address the... [ 283 00:16:05,241 --> 00:16:05,372 Inaudible]. 284 00:16:06,093 --> 00:16:07,613 TIMOTHY PEAKE: Thank you very much Secretary of State. I'd 285 00:16:07,953 --> 00:16:11,474 like to now announce the winners. So the first location, 286 00:16:11,554 --> 00:16:13,035 the Brogdale Collections. 287 00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:18,816 And the second sapling is going to the Catalyst Science 288 00:16:18,856 --> 00:16:24,398 Discovery Centre. The third sapling is going to the Eden 289 00:16:24,458 --> 00:16:27,419 Project. And could Dr Rachel Warmington, the science team 290 00:16:27,459 --> 00:16:28,879 manager, come up and receive it? 291 00:16:28,879 --> 00:16:35,322 RACHEL WARMINGTON: Having a sapling such as this with such 292 00:16:35,342 --> 00:16:39,264 an amazing story behind it will only help to inspire our 293 00:16:39,284 --> 00:16:40,284 visitors even more. 294 00:16:46,507 --> 00:16:49,528 SEAN DOUGLAS: And that's the remarkable story of the rather 295 00:16:49,728 --> 00:16:53,349 unremarkable looking apple tree that now calls the Eden Project 296 00:16:53,409 --> 00:16:53,690 home. 297 00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:58,452 I know the question you're asking. Did flying to space 298 00:16:58,573 --> 00:17:00,294 affect the way the trees will grow? 299 00:17:01,174 --> 00:17:04,357 The short answer, no. So was it all worth it? 300 00:17:04,997 --> 00:17:08,900 Well, yes, because as well as being a beautiful manor house, 301 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:12,802 Woolsthorpe is a place that lives and breathes scientific 302 00:17:12,862 --> 00:17:16,385 inspiration. And finding ways for visitors to take that 303 00:17:16,445 --> 00:17:20,027 inspiration beyond the walls of the property is something Ian 304 00:17:20,087 --> 00:17:23,970 Cooper, Woolsthorpe's general manager, takes great pride in. 305 00:17:33,457 --> 00:17:35,858 Thanks for listening to this episode of the National Trust 306 00:17:35,898 --> 00:17:41,021 Podcast. We'll be back soon with a new episode. But for now, from 307 00:17:41,041 --> 00:17:42,662 me, Sean Douglas, goodbye.