Diversity, royalty and caterpillars at war
This week they discuss the death of Prince Philip and the wall-to-wall media coverage, Shirley Williams passing away at 90 and the growing Greensill lobbying scandal.
Irish computer scientist Sheree Atcheson joins us to talk about her new book Demanding More: Why Diversity and Inclusion Don't Happen and What You Can Do About It.
And we analyse the court battle of the year: Colin the Caterpillar v Cuthbert the Caterpillar.
Music: 8 Bit Sauce by Mikey Geiger
Buy Sheree Atcheson's book here