Who said that being fat is being

sick who told her that fat was

a disease will be that fat people

she is fat because she wants to or because she can't

resist that delicious food and not

have enough will to do

diets exercise or is it that the

people were just born fat

I know that just like I have heard

little or nothing about fatphobia So

stay for this episode because we are going to

learn a lot about the subject

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who speaks to you Francis Tejedor Herrera

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of their culture and defender of their roots

Hello, prietas. Today we are here with

Andreas I tie the taborda Andrea to me

highly recommended

my friend told me look if you are going to talk

about this topic you need to contact

a very tense girl in this. So she knows

enough about the theme of the

fatophobia and he told me and you are going to

find on instagram like brown sugar

So I thought that when I entered

Instagram like her they tell me Well now

talks about this topic of the

fatophobia that I was going to meet a

Instagram profile let's say simple in

end did not have as expectations but

contact the person Andrea and be able

talk and be able to invite him to the podcast but

when i enter the instagram profile

by Andrea Brown Sugar I find myself

with a quantity of information that is

she has apart from the Fit's

instagram posts

main she has featured and in

those outstanding stories you're going to

find from an analysis of of the

musical art of this singer Rosalía

That's good that he sings a way

super cool but an analysis from his

musical art until landing it in the

cultural appropriation that exists in your

music you will find yourself

book recommendations for

I don't know to learn about the anti

racism feminism Eh This about the

feminism impacted me a lot

because I said it is not possible that one

class or that a subject that I saw in

the university is summarized this way

so practical in some stories of

Instagram me saying really Andrés

a thesis And then in feminism

talk about some topics that are

full interesting that is about

issues that even I already

I have asked questions about the

sorority in empowerment

That was a a term there that with the me

I was like wait there like that

That is, the first time that I am going to

their approaches and all that

I say because I say no That is me with

Andrea, I can't just talk about

Fatphobia Let's say there will be I'll talk about it

Right now in the first podcast but I

Andrea I have to keep inviting her here

because there are too interesting topics

that is, it has a section that I think is

my favorite where it explains and says how

five things that occurred to me or that

came to my mind when i was watching

X movie or Yes series and there was the

analysis of a movie that I went to

see with high expectations But at

finale did not fill me up And that movie is Soul

an animated movie and I say

well maybe that's why this explanation

this analysis from a perspective

super different but totally from

our blackness that Andrea does perhaps

it was because of this that the film did not fill me up

in short, without more or less tight around here

is with us Andrea for me is a

honor Andrea to have you here Thank you for

accept our invitation and good

welcome to the dark podcast

Oh no thank you very much thank you for it

summary of what you can find the

Instagram account Thank you for

invite me let's do a podcast

and also like that in the end my

Instagram account is like a space

to talk about everything that I like

So yes, I'm talking about the

body that is a part

very important as my political place

but also everything else then

Well, nothing. Thank you very much for that.

introduction and for inviting me to this

space

with great pleasure Andre I think I

I fell short because a lot

information the truth

I don't know the link you have there and then

you can go to your blog and you can read and

Do you have music that you recommend?

many many things and and I like it

very much

That's why I have you here and I have some

little questions

regarding your Instagram profile because

there one can see or chun and when you

you write you also call yourself

like me because

It's good, I have the at sign of me

Instagram and as the name has been since

years, that is, since I started in networks

social networks like having accounts that I can

to have been in 2010, that is, ago

a long time

when I lived in Ecuador

I was surrounded by people of

different Venezuelan nationalities

Cubans and among them there was like a

small community that practiced

Santeria then once one of the

babalabos that was there made me one

bowl reading and it came out that she was a daughter

of ozuna then it seemed very

peculiar because ozuna is like the

deity of the Yoruba pantheon that we say

governs or represented as in the

fresh water in river water and

It said something like well, how are you?

represented as in the subject of the

beauty and sweetness true or not

when she's angry well but but her

representation if it is like being a

deity as very beautiful and I believe that for

me it was very interesting because that

it had always been such a very

alien to me I felt more identified

with other things. So I decided

always put it in my at sign because maybe

time was like something I wanted

allow me to represent true as things

beautiful beautiful soft but not

lose strength Well, what does he have?

water true to good other than me

I like it a lot, it's the water, it's like

I forgot the sea wants to make you very happy

and it's like always being in the water

So I think that's why shun always

I've had it and I kind of and I kind of

I have so long that people

it says like that. I mean, sometimes I

they write about memes and they call me that

I feel very happy Ah well Never and they

I am going to tell you something else and it is that I think that

I have seen two or three times in my life a

thus drawn representation of Oshun

who has a fat body recently and

one and it was like it seems I am me

so it's like also very brutal

because I think that and today that we are going to talk

of body in this podcast always

like what fatness and beauty are or is that

like they are mutually exclusive and the

true is not true or maybe or not

not necessarily but I think so

as something that is socially not allowed

how to enjoy a fat body and al

same time of the expression of the

beauty then

I think that this has been like my

intention with that name in networks

social and after having seen that

ilu nothing brutal brutal no and the sweetness

Oshun also has a relationship with

him with Brown Sugar I think the good one

not the story of Abraham show Garcia is

more basic I like it a lot

one of my favorite movies of the

Life is a movie called Brown

Sugar and It's about the history of hip hop

well it's a romantic movie but

behind that of the things that most

like is that during all that

It goes through the whole movie is the story

of hip hop and well that's why I love her

Because I really like music

So when at that time Well for

back in 2010

what i was looking for i think maybe

just saw her or so and I said like that

it has to be my network name

social Well, because I

I felt good and that's what one is called

song by The Angelo that is about a

woman who is called Brown Sugar and

on the on the soundtrack of Esta

movie is also a song about

a girl who is called Sugar So

as I said I want cherry right I think

that there had less meaning than

when I thought about putting the title of

ozuna but I did keep that at Y

that's cute too because it's like that

social media phenomenon sometimes

I have traveled to do workshops in other

cities I don't know what and people tell me

like brown like brown and that's too much

cute I mean I feel like it's like very

nice because I think some one like that

the body begins to accommodate those

things. So that seems cool to me like

allow yourself perhaps as embodying things

who have been told that they do not belong to a

Well, because one of the things that to me

people always tell me is that I am

very brave that is and yes but it is not the only thing

that I am true as that I am others

Exactly not, well, dial simple, everything very

interesting the truth that already with those

two data I think they have one left

little clearer to the prietas when

we talk about Andrea as who we are

speaking, I mean, Andrea, I think that you

simple I don't know when defining a

name for example very little

too little too interesting and that

as I say that is when I looked at your

profile I said but she what time is it

that Andrés Seriously you at what point

you learn so much how do you acquire so much

information, that is, how much do you dedicate to

learn

Well, to me all the time Well, yes I believe

that all the time or be first than

everything took almost all my life

working as an educator then

I feel that if one is dedicated to educating

well and as to the formation and to that if

have

Ah well but I'm going to start maybe

the beginning of this I spoke recently that

they even invited me to a university

a conversation AND

if there is something that happens I don't know if to you

it happens to you as a black woman too

but something that did happen to me is that

I grew up in the middle of a family of

white people of people yes And since

very small maybe since i was 16

17 years old I started as a military in the

feminist movement and movement

feminist is characterized by its

structural racism So I think

if there is a matter of how

claim through and

knowledge I have named this in

other spaces And it is that

once a writer called alok

by name

he was being interviewed in a

podcast and they told him how you are very

intelligent Well, you know a lot and what

spoke answered it was like Yes but it is

because it has touched me so that people

I accepted true and that was something that I believe

It happened to me at that time and it's like me

I needed white women

white women believe me

They will listen, they will not silence me. So I

always needed how to know how to have

read more how to have built more

knowledge, that is, like it was a

pressing need and I think it has been

always like my place of life and it's like

you have to know you have to have one

voice that is like I always have to

have a reference that justifies me

my thought

sometimes even with friends in therapy

I have talked about it and it is how I do a

Live on Instagram and I quote five books in

Instagram Live a text an author

because it is a necessity as a little

systemic true people reject you or

They tell you that you are a crazy hysterical

true I what what one is

thinking is pure resentment because it is

that's how he sees them that he is the blacks

They are like that and it's like not and despite the fact that I

I vindicate the resentment if I feel

that that is a super structural issue

on one side on the other side if I carry

like almost more than 15 years of my life

dedicated to education then

Of course when one dedicates himself to teaching

Others, well, it's your turn to read. Watch movies.

absorb knowledge and if it is a

necessity, then, in order to reach the

another but I think that is like two

sides of the same coin

In these moments of my life I am

dedicated to reading theory Well

Of course I don't read anymore So much anti racism

so much theory or so many things like that

but I prefer to read as fantasies

romantic science fiction fact

I'm declining Even as my

television consumption because I found myself

that hurt me because it made me sad

I was stressed I think people

black women deserve to count more than

stories of pain tell more than

stories of structural racism from

oppressions and Although that is very

important and that has allowed us

build everything we've built

to this day me right now

I am in a time more dedicated to enjoyment

more like

the cinema of the television more like to see things

that I like much more than reading books

where black women the only thing

do be and eat then

Well, because what I think we

we deserve black women above all

that they adore us then that's like my

current search but yes in other years

it was a goal for me supremely

important as what

maybe compensate my political place with

knowing and now I feel that I do not have the

need Well, because I deserve

occupy the space that I occupy

regardless of whether I know things or not If I

I think you mention it in your

blog and of course I don't remember if I read it

on your blog in your highlights

when talking about feminism and how

you started with this but I there you

you mention

when you say but i needed and quote

authors when I participated in these

feminist spaces for me to

respected not so that my opinion was

valid and for that for for then power

be taken into account and well, you already me

you said good phrases I talk a lot now

I'm realizing that yes that is

spectacular

And suddenly right now the dark ones already know

they are asking well but why not

I see we don't see Andrea we only see France

in the video this was a request

Andrea's special and watch the video

to be able to see it on video because if

they want to see they can go to their Instagram

it was not going to be a limitation for us

inhibit us and inhibit the podcast of this

such a guest So we already know

Why are they only seeing my face and

let's go with this topic Andrea about the

fatophobia let's see we start with you

Let's say when you discover fat in your

life

no I did not discover myself they discovered me

I have never been a skinny woman No nor no

I was a skinny girl nor am I a woman

skinny, that is, never ever in life

I think I didn't discover myself but

that the others discovered me because the

fat body is a body that is

historically

willing to do violence

criticized controlled true

then

They discovered me I don't remember that ever

never in my life has anyone told me

Well, how did I feel inhabiting?

another body type not i was a girl

fat woman

In my house I kept concentrating on telling me

that I was a fat girl my mom told me

said my aunts told me then

I have never read myself any other way

and when I am and they say when the

Well when they discover you fat there is

some changes let's say

as there is a before and after

because I believe Well I'm not going to

generalize this experience but what

It happened to me because they don't tell you

only that you are fat and that's it

what they tell you is that you are very fat and

that is accompanied with the fat ones no

you want them but the dad and the mom

Go on a diet, clothes don't work for you

no one is going to love her so see how she is

fat is always a criticism is a

pointing is an act of violence

then what happens with with a from

that is small is that one since

He has a conscience, I can tell you that

if there is a moment where the children and the

girls acquire an awareness as of

his own body true maybe the

five the six years or at least that

It was my experience like the five

six years that one realizes how

has a body and that the body occupies

true space and that the body

interact with other people then

at that moment in which one acquires

that awareness that he has a body and

they begin to tell him that his body is nobody

loves him and everyone hates him and

nobody wants to see it and nobody wants it

experience what one begins to do

is to break that relationship with the body

true or how to break that relationship

healthy that you can have with yourself every

time you look in the mirror is a struggle

every time you look in the mirror it's not me

I want to look in the mirror every time you go

to buy clothes and you want to wear a

short and your mom tells you not to wear that

because nobody wants to see fat women

in chores true So it's a

breakup since one is little

It is a very strong wound and it is a wound

that when one reaches adulthood, well

It's time to heal if you have the clear disposition

well

at this time

I could say that I was speechless

but

I will not deny the prietas nor will I

to deny Andrea and to me

caused certain it made me like like a click

like a Hey let's say a red flag

like that good phrases and you why not

you had

thought before

about that topic, that is, because that topic is very

has rarely crossed your mind or

for your questions of daily life and

I say that surprises me and I don't

surprises surprises me in the sense of

What Hey If you've been in spaces of

resistances spaces of struggle spaces

where the are recognized the

social inequalities and are fighting

against it because we had not

talked about abortion phobia but at the same

time does not surprise me because I am a

slim woman so how

I'm going to be worried about the issue still

when almost all my aunts I think

the only one of the women in the

family of older women

fattening is my mom so it's a topic

Hey for Joseph skinny It's not that no

is related to them or is in

my environment and I am living it daily

and And I would think that I have the

responsibility or I would say

we have the responsibility of

talk about this because we are

living in a world and this must be

try to do the best for everyone and

we all have an impact

because the rest of the Andrea family

maybe she wasn't fat and that's why she

they remembered her at all times as

Look being fat is wrong to be fat like that

as he already says no, not even the mother loves you

nor the father but all this comes from a

social construct and that's why Andrea I

i want to ask exactly

what is fatphobia because i understand

that each of those situations that you

Right now you told us it's like the

I don't know how to be able to see or the reflection of

fatphobia in society that

fatphobic thought but but what is it

fatphobia itself

Look fatphobia is systemic oppression

certain

talk about a system

what shall we say

values

or gives value character dignity and

humanity to a person according to the

size of the body that inhabits certain the

fatophobia is a structural oppression

This is not a personal opinion, right?

It's like when you explain to the

people what is racism racism is

structural oppression is violence

systemic is not a personal opinion no

It is there Is it that I want or I feel not

it is a structural oppression because it is

a structural oppression Why is it

systemic because it inhabits different

spaces in an organic way such as

patriarchy inhabits and how it inhabits them

the true racism of the works of the

same way i know what to do this guy

of comparisons as if this were the

itself is quite complex because not me

I want the people who listen to us

understand understand that this has a

Lots of shades This can't be seen

Like something that's black and white This

is situated in the implications of the

body and of the bodies of all and of

all but it is necessary to understand that

is structural than the systemic that its

roots can be traced back to

true slave time and that has

this

closely linked to racism and

classism

having black body Sabrina strings

For example, he says that the fear of

imaginary of the body of the black woman

y gorda was created by ideologies

racial and religious who have served

to degrade black women and

to discipline white women

This is very important especially because

we have to understand that if one is not

speaking

anti racism when he is talking about

antigordofobia has in the it is

loose true we must talk about

antiracism to talk about

antifatphobia because fatphobia is

structurally racist and that's

very important good Andre and all that

What do you tell us? I rescue two things.

first is the one who, well, like the

thought the imaginary that is in the

society is that a fat person is

sick and I would like to ask you how

Well, what do you think about that? Because

many people tell you how there is a diet

go to exercise and they try to tell you

Shape

least hurtful possible within their

efforts and and they do

from his appreciation of you because

they say Well look I really want that

you are well that you are healthy and for

that there is a diet exercise and also

I want how to resume this because I know

It seems a bit controversial to me

when you say is that people say associate

fatness also to Poverty because

what I see and what I normally know

associates is the people who have money who

he has money to buy a lot of food

junk that has money for well

eat a lot of excess food and so on

get fat

you said many things

let's start with the second no how

there are cousins

or the fat body with the excess I think

that this is a deep thought

fatphobic I think that people who

they have excess money do

exactly the opposite

they worry about their body fitting inside

of the hegemonic standard are concerned with

go on diets including diets that put in

their life is in danger but they care about

fit within the existing standard

for more than 400 years and that Ah Y

that you have told people What is

a valid body and which is a not body

valid I think that is also

how to think that the fat body has

one one cause or be like fat people

it exists because it eats and part I love you

show a photo of when I was born and you

you will realize that it is that I all the

life I have been fat well then what is it

the problem is fat bodies and

have always existed even when not

there was junk food there were

fat bodies then well I think

that need to look for the body

fat a justification and a

explanation well that is

supremely violent right then

That doesn't make any sense, well

that is a fatphobic appreciation is

an appreciation Nothing more classist I think

that there is a feeding problem

structural the other time I read some

Twitter threads from an activist

antigordofobia that is super teso that is

called Caleb luna and he said how does he give me

lots of laughter when people talk

that there is that there is that well like that

you have to fight and heal and cure

the issue of disordered eating and

evil said when the poor people all

life has been fed

messy I mean people could

starve forever then

let's say that heal the issue of the

Disorderly eating is having to

attack capitalism have to attack

access to quality food

to attack that there are people in this country

and in many other countries of the world that

they are literally starving right

then this issue of Food

messy, well, how can we talk about that?

It's just talking about Oh, it's that you don't eat

because you don't want is that we have

transgenerational trauma we have wounds

historical And you are going to face

a lot of black women living in

eating disorders but normal

true Well, normal like us

we eat like this but that has a

theoretical justification has some

historical characteristics and I believe that

there also comes that the body

Fat man, you have to heal him and cure him, then

Seems like when fat people existed

always or literally we have

statues from the prehistoric era

fat women I don't know why now or

be yes I know why fatophobia exists

structural racism and violence

systemic and patriarchal but it's like

let's charge each other right it's not like that

we are a myth told through

of history that at first sight

second you talked about health and

you said something that seems very

important to speak from now on and it is the

matter of people who tell you

in quotes in the best way that

one should be healthy eat well and

exercise because people who say

those things are not people who tell you

That with good intentions so create it

true no but it is that look I love you

a lot and that's why I want you to diet

if you are that is called being fatphobic

when you tell a person to go

exercise go as little When

you make comments about the bodies of

people is being fatphobic and

fatphobia is violent and is

discriminatory and let's take charge then or

I think it's walking through life

telling people there it is with the

best intention is that your intentions

They don't matter when you hurt the

people and I think black people

we are testimony of that Ah is that I

I just told you black

but I really like you It's a joke Ay a

see Excuse me but that's not a joke

it's violence it's racism So if it's

if we can fully understand that

We also have to begin to understand

that those good intentions are not

good intentions is body hate

fat and hate and want to tell you no

you exist want to tell you cease to exist

in the body that you

and at some point we will have each other

also to take care of that and that

I will say Francis is something that happens

a lot in black communities

a lot because although the communities

black in the within the communities

black fat bodies abound

diverse bodies the amount of control

about women and their body is

very violent and terrifying

and it is normalized I think that one of the

harder things for me to talk about

with black women of body and

fatphobia is that having a body

hegemonic power is one of the bastions of

freedom and acceptance and claim

for black women to have a body

that has the small breast the waist

petite and a big ass is a place

where black women sit

comfortable because they are accepted by the

most people because Yummy

a black ass because how delicious a

black body black women have

struggled to uphold that standard without

realize that behind that there is

racism there is exoticization and there is fatophobia

without realizing that every time a

aunt repeats to you when you are going to visit her at

town to see how fat mija is

by God you went to Medellín to

study and look how it came back that is

fatphobic violence And that's an issue

very hard for black women

understand and I connect it with something that

you said at the beginning and it is that you do not

Have you ever thought about fatphobia?

a speech in one of my series

favorite called imagine

destroyed in chapter seven if not

you have seen it go and see it in the

chapter seven Micaela I read a text that

It is one of the most beautiful things that I

I have heard in my life where he already explains

that she had never thought

gender violence because I was very

busy being black and poor then

violence had never been thought of

that women suffer this is said in

the framework of which she is violated

sexually and then he has to go through

all that healing process of a

sexual violence the same happens with the

fatphobia something very similar I never

I have started to think about this because I am very

busy doing poor black colombian

migrant etc. etc. But that's not

it means that it does not exist

exists it happens and at some point in the

existence we are going to have to approach

and finally

I think that nobody unless it is you

personal doctor and who knows your

medical exams do you know if you are

sick or not definitely I think

that also happens, no one arrives with dark circles

to work and they tell him that there was mija

she's sick in guava I think

that also has to be stopped

true How to stop assuming all the time

what someone else is going through

but I think it is also very

important to understand that no person

owes health to others, that is, one

That's why when I speak in networks

I hardly talk about health

of the subject of health true because I do not

I must say hello to no one to anyone

It doesn't matter if I'm healthy or sick

I healthy sick disabled

neurodivergent whatever I have

right to resist and occupy space

So this constant justification

that is called salutism and that constant

justification of Yes I am fat and no

I'm sick Oh look at me I'll give it to you

to say personally I care

three is worth a chacha fruit because

sick and all I have the right to

exist and I have the right to work and

I have the right to transport myself in a

public place I have the right to not be

get off a plane I have the right to be

beloved dear and adored then leave

to ask people about their health

that is that it is not important right

Each

has the ability to take care of himself and

manage your care options

included with many other people No

we go to the doctor because we avoid those

scenes of true violence without

However I have my shares of Care

over my body I am supreme

aware if I'm right if I'm wrong yes

I have a pain if I have to go to

some emergencies. So I think that and

especially this health message

constant puts us face to face with the system of

health and the health system is a place

where violence occurs

structural on fat bodies

very deep violence is that you are going

making the doctor fat with a pain in

a doll and they tell her to lose weight is that

there are people who die of cancer

because the doctor

diagnose losing weight

I mean, it's like we have to

realize at some point that it is not

as easy as telling people go

to the doctor

that has some implications so yes

I'm going to be so easy to tell the

people, well, go to the doctor, I'm going to

have to approach charge to remove the

structural violence that is spoken

health system that occurs every time

you go to a medical appointment I have had

I suffer from endometriosis I have cramps

disabling and painful menstrual periods

they are very strong and I had to go to

urge to put me on medication

for menstrual alcoholic and I arrived

I sit in the chair This happened to me once

with a male doctor I arrived sat in

the chair and says good morning how are you

what is he coming for and I told him I have a

menstrual cramps is and what next

he answered me. That was the third thing that

He told me and why is a bypass not done?

let's see how that is and that has happened to you

you can ask this to anyone

fat person you know and everyone

we are going to tell you the same story

So this is not an invention, it is not a

collective delusion is not that it does see

You are not taking charge, it is not

that this is real and this happens then

those are like my hangouts

interpretation of the topic of health

I think that it is very important

that we take them into account and here in the

future well then

look at André when he explains or gives us

an answer gives us a whole quantity

of information

that it is worth working all this in one

podcast is like pretty hard

summarize so much information I imagine

that you are going to be suddenly with

a lot of questions over there or with

things they would also like like and but

I think this then

so that the template Andrea

invitation to do a Live in

the in social networks So I'm going to

be commenting on it André when

I was mentioning and how to see French

that's too much thinking

fatphobic to think that people

they just get fat from eating too much

why

she tells me you can see a picture of me

since I was little and you will see that I am

a fat woman and that makes me think of

that in two things first in that the

gordophobia is here the sea exists is

intrinsic to us and in us and what

we unconsciously carry

that is necessary how to take

responsibility for it and really

educate yourself on the subject to avoid having

What

how to get to commit those

situations of discrimination towards a

person for being fat And in second place

Well, in me I am a person who eats

a lot I usually ask for an extra

rice I love a cucallo I

like a big fish two patacones

salad the juice and maybe if I want

ask for extra patacones too

so and I am a skinny woman because

my body is skinny stuff me with food

what stuffs me then

well there are several things to go

reflecting and that we can easily

land it everyday live and Andre too

told us something when she told me

France that's a thought

fatphobic and that's why my question arises

Andrea

How could we do how

we could do suddenly if you

do you have some pointers to

look be antiva orthophobic to be able

slow this down to bring it down a bit

I think that like any process of

release

you have to self-reflect right there is

you have to self-reflect

constantly wondering This is a

question that many also ask me

times girls in social networks or in

workshops and that's how I stop being racist and

I think Well, I tell them how they think

that is, when they come across a

thought in your head think about it or

Be reflect on it and try to give yourself

Tell that where it's going and from where

It's true, that's very important.

So then, reflect on yourself.

I read a simple practical thing every

time you have for example the

need to comment on the body of

a person stop and ask yourselves well me

Why am I saying this true every

whenever you have the need to

undergo a diet to one I don't know to

drink a lot of juices anyway

Think Why do the exercise

self-reflection the second thing is

listen read consume content

fat people that is definitely and the

have to actively seek and

aware the content is consumed from

consciously look for fat people

but not chubby people or be bald

what does it get not fat people super fat

without fat ends people who even

make you feel uncomfortable

you say Oh no this body as

I have never seen this in my life

body type do that that's very

important because it is that we do not

we know how none of those live

people have no idea we don't

we know how they go through life

convey how they eat or be

we have no idea how it is

passing that then too

consume that content

And finally

no I think you have to

doubt

Yes because it is that

the doubt is what is going to you

allow the mandates to be questioned

cultures that have always learned

that because there are many things to do

there are many resistance exercises there

many repair exercises must be

accompany fat people because at the

fat people to accompany her

take care of her right the many of you

many of you who say it is not that

I don't like fat people ask yourself

because I have never messed with one

person I don't have fat friends

ask yourself why

ask yourself why because it is that the

fat people exist

not a single fat friend is like people

who has no black friends comes a

single couple

OK Well then, I mean, I invite you to

that you question those things there

lots to do and fat people

we are constantly writing and

saying things that there are things to do

what is there to say but start with

at least out there

And some message for the fat brown ones

who listen to us

and to finish they are beautiful beautiful that

allow themselves the enjoyment and enjoyment of their

body fat is not an impediment

to live life to eat rich to

rich to sleep rich and I invite you

to which they claim enjoyment in itself

bodies that is the only thing that I

interested in the fat body and

the black body and is to be allowed

enjoy it that they put on nice clothes that

go out on the street to take up space

because we deserve to take up space

so do it get out actively and

occupy the space that corresponds to them

Even if that takes up even if it's too much

that too much is ours and belongs to us

Thank you Andrés Thank you very much for

all this information for sharing

with us Look at this topic that is so

important and that we talk very little

but but that is transversalized

our life. That is, he was present in

our life and nothing I loved having you

here Andrés the truth Thank you very much

for accepting the invitation to the

brown no thank you very much for

invite me I hope we'll see each other at the

future and to all black women who

want to talk about fat and body and

of blackness here I am always

Thank you André Thank you

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