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What’s up, I’m Yolo.

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And I’m Natalie.

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And this is Black Healing Remixed – the podcast.


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I felt like 
 the conversations

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on mental health 
and healing

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were so corny.

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They just wasn’t fly!

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It wasn’t giving.

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I wanted to create this
program and this space

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where we could get into
the real critical nature of it.

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and talk about systems and
structures and the history.

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And to be able to
do that together.

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When we’re setting up
systems

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and assembly lines for 
something

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that will not be the
highest quality of care.

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In fact it will be the
minimum requirement.

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We’re meeting
the requirement.

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And I go, “Is that how 
we want our folks cared for?”

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The people who are in
the most distress,

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that’s the system
they’re gonna engage?

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The mental health distress
we were experiencing

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was from generations
of distress.

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Oh, we did have 
healing modalities though,

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because “sit on the porch”
is a contemplative practice.

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It’s the desire for connection
without the bravery –

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– Oooh, c’mon now! – 

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– to do the work
to be connected.

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And that is what is
so unappealing to me,

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because I’m like,

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“If we doin’ this human shit, 
let’s do it.”

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If we don’t hold that
there’s carceral systems

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that are not invested in care
but invested in making money

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off of black bodies
inside of these institutions

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and challenge these systems
to actually be about healing

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we’re missing the remix.

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Absolutely.