Mark Haney: And now I am here with Daniel Thomas.
Mark Haney: He is the owner of Dynamic Training and this is an incredible opportunity for me because you are helping so many people with Dynamic Training and it's people that are really close to me.
Mark Haney: So I want to get to know you better, daniel, but also I want to have have our audience know about this, about this business, because it's it's really cool.
Mark Haney: So maybe just a little your background and what the business is all about.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, so the business, dynamic training.
Daniel Thomas: We specialize in speed and agility training.
Daniel Thomas: So we work with my dad calls it P We's to the pros.
Daniel Thomas: So we've got the juniors, which are like five day year olds, all the way to our youth classes, high school and college.
Daniel Thomas: But everything we specialize in is how can we make our athletes the fastest, most explosive that they can be.
Daniel Thomas: So most strength and conditioning programs traditionally are about 75% weight room strength, whether they're doing barbell movements, but they're really focused on power and strength, and then they spend a very little like 25% on speed, mechanics and conditioning.
Daniel Thomas: We kind of flipped so we're the opposite.
Daniel Thomas: So we're about 75, 80% speed, agility, quickness, conditioning and then 25% on the strength and the power side.
Daniel Thomas: So that's kind of what separates.
Mark Haney: Yeah, yeah, I want to dive a little bit deeper into that as we get going, because I kind of have a fast coach football and baseball and different sports and I sort of have a fat fascination for young athletes and how to help them develop and, you know, and become who they want to be, because I don't you think that young athletes have these, a lot of them have these big dreams.
Mark Haney: They want to become professional.
Mark Haney: You know, we turn on the TV and we want to be, you know, michael Jordan or whoever and you know.
Mark Haney: So how do you get there?
Daniel Thomas: right, it takes a lot of work 100% it does, and so one of our big slogans that we have plastered all over our gym is that greatness is inside of you, but it's your job to train it to come out.
Daniel Thomas: So we believe that every athlete has something special inside of them, but we try to remind them that the bigger your dream is, the more you have to put in the work and the more you have to be willing to sacrifice and to really dive in, and it would be 100% sold out.
Mark Haney: So you know, it's amazing I just want to conversation with somebody a few minutes ago is a lot of times that big dream aspect of our personality.
Mark Haney: It gets beat out of us right.
Mark Haney: So, as a young person, hey, this guy's a lemon, I can build anything.
Mark Haney: I can, you know, be a billionaire, I'll be Michael, like Michael Jordan or something, and then all of a sudden, society encroach, starts encroaching.
Mark Haney: We get in line, we do our job, we show up and it's like, oh my gosh, my big, where my big dreams go.
Mark Haney: So you're still working with people with these enormous dreams, which I love.
Mark Haney: I do that as well with helping entrepreneurs that are going out and trying to change the world through building businesses.
Mark Haney: So I love that you are helping these young people keep dreaming and some of them actually achieve a lot of those dreams.
Mark Haney: Maybe give me a sense as to like what happens when they walk through the door and maybe a couple of success stories with people who have, you know, really become something.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, for sure.
Daniel Thomas: And our number one job is never like we don't walk in and sell anybody.
Daniel Thomas: Hey, we're going to get you the pros, but our job is, hey, if you love something and you're passionate, how can we get you to be able to play at the next level in college?
Mark Haney: That's our goal.
Daniel Thomas: Our goal is to get kids to college 100% you know and yes there's the benefit is huge for you know, as far as getting a college education, but just the dream to be able to have these kids play at the next level, because the percentage in the amount of people playing in college is so small In this community.
Daniel Thomas: We have so many great athletes and sports is huge in this area, so I think everyone just assumes that you get to go play in college.
Mark Haney: But that's really not how it is caught very few you know it's interesting to, because college athletes there's very few, obviously, but people who make it to college and go through and play sports in college, they end up with an understanding of life that I think a lot of us don't have.
Mark Haney: You played sports in college, so you have an understanding that I don't have about the kind of dedication and commitment and you know all the different things that it takes to get to that level and finish through that level, because I mean, it's pretty easy to.
Mark Haney: I got out of high school, I dropped out, or you know I had not dropped out, I got.
Mark Haney: You know, got to get a job, you know, maybe something else, but a lot of people don't even finish high school sports.
Mark Haney: So that commitment is a.
Mark Haney: I mean, these people make great leaders in business.
Mark Haney: That's my.
Mark Haney: My sense is, if I can hire people who have played college sports, wow, that's a fine.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, you know, because people don't realize the amount of grind that there is just to play, not even to be successful at the college level, but just to be a part of a team at a college level.
Daniel Thomas: I played football players.
Daniel Thomas: I played football in college.
Daniel Thomas: Those darn football players are always falling asleep, you know in that class but you know our regiment was we had we'd wake up at 5am.
Daniel Thomas: If you were injured you had to be in doing rehab before 5am.
Daniel Thomas: So we're talking 4am wake up times to do some rehab or prehab on injuries.
Daniel Thomas: You're practicing at 6am.
Daniel Thomas: You're done by 7, 7, 30.
Daniel Thomas: You go to the weight room straight from practice.
Daniel Thomas: Now you're lifting from 8 to 930, then you're showering and we're getting to class at 10am and now I have international to business lot 10am, a class.
Daniel Thomas: That, no offense, maybe a little bit of a snoozefest, right?
Daniel Thomas: So you know you're up at 4am.
Daniel Thomas: You're practicing.
Mark Haney: You're running miles, right your body is, so you use yeah and then you're sitting in class and everyone goes.
Daniel Thomas: Look at those darn lazy football players and they're all.
Daniel Thomas: You know, trying to stay awake, and so people don't realize if you're not in the nitty gritty of actually being a collegiate athlete.
Daniel Thomas: You know to be able to go through all of that and then still go to school and then show up after school and then go to film and then have walkthroughs and then guess what you actually want to get good grades now you have to do your homework, you know, and so it's like the actual amount of dedication to get good grades as a student athlete is huge and I think it sets really sets people apart in today's generation for success after sports, like you were talking about.
Mark Haney: It takes so much commitment and dedication and stick to it and stick to it.
Mark Haney: It's that a lot of people just are never exposed to right there.
Mark Haney: For whatever reason, they didn't take that path and that's why I love sports is because within sports you can start that at eight years old and begin to build the big dreams and understand what hard work is all about.
Mark Haney: But Riley and Rocco, who we talked about earlier, I know, go to your program and they were.
Mark Haney: They rave about it.
Mark Haney: Riley is now 12 and she plays volleyball and Rocco is more of a baseball guy.
Mark Haney: But they play a variety of sports and they love it, they have fun.
Mark Haney: But yet they're seeing their athleticism change right before I'm seeing before their eyes.
Mark Haney: Right, they're not necessarily the people that are jumping out of the gym in terms of natural athleticism, but they're a little more springy than they used to be before they started coming to you.
Mark Haney: Yeah, 100%.
Daniel Thomas: I mean, you know, the reality of it is is that we're trying to teach kids that if you work hard, you compete and you enjoy what you're doing, that you're going to go far and that you can have success.
Daniel Thomas: In the coaching world today, sadly, there's so many more negative connotations with coaches than positive, right, and so we're trying to create an environment in a place where kids come in, they get their butts worked but they leave smiling because at the end of the day, they know that these coaches are coaches, really care about them and care about their success.
Daniel Thomas: And so I always tell our coaches you know, before you ever correct anyone and give correction or criticism to an athlete, you need to make sure that you start with an encouragement, because kids are so quick to shut down nowadays, especially if they don't know you, and so we really believe that you know they don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.
Daniel Thomas: So to build that relationship, to tell them that they're doing amazing and to keep pushing them in that positive direction and then following up, and now they're willing to receive the correction, receive the proper techniques and critiques that you wanna give them, because they know, hey, coach actually cares about me, so I'm gonna take this into consideration.
Mark Haney: So Riley's become a pretty darn good volleyball player.
Mark Haney: But my grandson Rocco, who's not gifted in speed and athleticism.
Mark Haney: We were doing ladder drills the other day.
Mark Haney: I think I captured it on Instagram and I'm like he was keeping up with me.
Mark Haney: I used to be pretty.
Mark Haney: I'm not good at that stuff, but I can do it.
Mark Haney: I crossfit, we do a little bit of that stuff and I was like this guy can do ladder drills, he did the icky shuffle stuff and I'm like how the heck can you do that?
Mark Haney: He's you know cause he's not a burner, right, but he's got good footwork, he's at the foundation for building some good footwork and I think it'll really help him.
Mark Haney: Maybe walk me through a little bit about what the program is like, and then I wanna talk about confidence as well too.
Mark Haney: But maybe we'll just start with what the program is and then you know, cause a great byproduct of achievement and progression is confidence 100%.
Daniel Thomas: So my background before dynamic training actually worked in the recovery business so I was a general manager of at US Cryotherapy over here in Roseville, sierra College and Douglas.
Mark Haney: Oh, you know what?
Mark Haney: That's probably where I've seen you before.
Mark Haney: They've been in there, yeah.
Daniel Thomas: So I worked there for like six or seven years and that was really my passion and I saw I constantly saw athletes coming in with injury after injury.
Daniel Thomas: So when developing and starting the program of dynamic training, I was like, okay, we need to make sure we do a little prehab.
Daniel Thomas: If we can, you know, jump the gun and prepare these athletes before they get injured.
Daniel Thomas: We're gonna help reduce chances of injury.
Daniel Thomas: Because young athletes are training so often and so frequently that now you have 10 year olds, 12 year olds, with tendonitis and arthritis, which never used to be a thing right.
Daniel Thomas: So our start to our every single session we have, we go through a banded warmup and then we do a full dynamic warmup.
Daniel Thomas: It takes about 10 to 12 minutes to get through it before we even hit anything.
Mark Haney: So a banded warmup?
Daniel Thomas: describe that to me, yeah so we mostly use mini bands.
Daniel Thomas: So you'll see a lot of people.
Daniel Thomas: They put them around their ankles or right above their knees.
Daniel Thomas: So, we put ours right above the ankles.
Daniel Thomas: We'll do lateral walks, forward and backwards walks to really fire up.
Mark Haney: Hips are burning.
Daniel Thomas: Yep, the glutes, the hips, and then really just to help work and strengthen all those small muscles, the tendons, the ligaments, the joints throughout the knees, ankles.
Daniel Thomas: So trying to fire up those little muscles that nobody really thinks about because once we start we're flying, we're all about do what we do, we do it at 100% effort.
Daniel Thomas: Then you recover, because a lot of people think that when they wanna get faster, when athletes are like, how can I get faster?
Daniel Thomas: They put themselves typically through conditioning, and we try to remind athletes that conditioning is not speed training but speed training is conditioning.
Daniel Thomas: Because when you do anything with a high intensity, that heart rate's gonna spike, it's gonna elevate, kinda like people here who say hit training or high intensity training.
Daniel Thomas: It's kind of a similar concept, but focused more towards athletes.
Mark Haney: So if I'm a young person maybe listening, or a parent listening, I come in and the speed training when I've done that in the past, your heart rate gets up, but then you get enough time to recover so that you can be at your very best at the next rep or your next opportunity.
Daniel Thomas: Is that right?
Daniel Thomas: So you're not 100%.
Mark Haney: Maybe your heart rate's still up a little bit, but you can go 100% on the next rep.
Mark Haney: It's gonna go on everything going hard for it 80% and just sort of surviving a 20 minute workout.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, and with our youth, our younger athletes at nine to 12 year old range, they just wanna go, go, go, go, go, nonstop, cause that's what they've been taught, that's what they think they're supposed to do, and they're just gonna try to keep pushing.
Daniel Thomas: So we actually have to step in as coaches and go stop, breathe, take a second, because I want you to give me 100%.
Daniel Thomas: If you're gonna give me 80%, I want you to rest, because I want you to come in and floor it and give me everything you got, because that's the only way that we're gonna maximize that top end speed.
Mark Haney: Work at your maximum more often, versus working at 90% all the time 100%, 100%.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, and there's studies that have been shown that athletes, when it comes to speed specifically, that if you don't sprint at 90% of your max speed or higher within a five to seven day window, you actually get diminishing returns.
Daniel Thomas: So that's how quickly you can lose top speed.
Daniel Thomas: Is you have to be, as an athlete, sprinting and working at 90% to 100% maximum effort in order to keep that intensity in your pocket?
Mark Haney: Okay, so you come in, you do your we'll call it your band work, and then you're doing some speed drills, Right, and those are super high intensity, with enough rest to be at your best.
Mark Haney: Then what is that like?
Mark Haney: Are you breaking up in like segments throughout a, let's say, is it an hour Two?
Daniel Thomas: hours.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, so they're hour long workouts and so typically what happens is every workout's a little bit different, but every workout is gonna have some variation of a footwork exercise where we really emphasize kids being able to control their feet, because a lot of times people do footwork and they go as fast as humanly possible, but if you're not controlling what you're doing, your feet are just frantic.
Daniel Thomas: I tell people fast feet, that out of control are just as bad as slow feet, because if you're not actually going where you wanna go.
Daniel Thomas: You're just wasting effort, you're wasting energy because you're not actually doing what you wanna be doing.
Daniel Thomas: So we do a lot of footwork, we do a lot of plow metrics, which is different variations of jump training.
Daniel Thomas: We do a lot of resistance work, right.
Daniel Thomas: So trying to help with athletes who wanna accelerate, because most athletes, once they're running and moving, are pretty fast, but it really separates average to great athletes is how fast can they get to that speed?
Daniel Thomas: Right, that acceleration portion.
Daniel Thomas: So we do a lot of emphasis on acceleration.
Daniel Thomas: And then, with our younger athletes, we do a lot of mechanical work, running mechanics jumping mechanics, making sure that they actually know the proper form.
Daniel Thomas: Sometimes we gotta slow down to learn so that we can speed up down the road.
Mark Haney: And I think all of us need some mechanic reminders.
Mark Haney: Mechanical training doesn't hurt you, no matter how long you've been an athlete.
Mark Haney: Just tighten, clean up your form a little bit and you end up being just a little faster if you go through a few drills.
Mark Haney: From what?
Daniel Thomas: I found.
Mark Haney: But thinking about that so they don't get into the strength piece.
Mark Haney: You said 25% of it was strength.
Mark Haney: You're not gonna have a 12 year old doing bench press or squats yeah not in our group classes.
Daniel Thomas: So in our group classes the strength portion is gonna come from body weight movements.
Daniel Thomas: We do push sleds or prowlers, so they are gonna get some lower body build from that.
Daniel Thomas: Through all of our different plow metric jump trainings they're gonna get lots of strength in their lower body from just jumping.
Daniel Thomas: We do from high jumps to broad jumps to quick jumps.
Daniel Thomas: We do all different types of variations there.
Daniel Thomas: And then the resistance training.
Daniel Thomas: Right, if you've ever tried sprinting with someone holding you back or a version of a bungee or a resistance band, that's gonna develop muscles and strength that a lot of people are not used to.
Daniel Thomas: So the younger athletes are getting strength training in different ways than our older athletes would be.
Daniel Thomas: So, like our high school and college athletes now we might actually break out some more into the weight room.
Daniel Thomas: So youth athletes, it's mostly gonna be body weight sleds, plow metric exercises and resistance training.
Mark Haney: I've been on your Instagram and I've seen you know you post videos of young people working out and I've seen this accelerate, change your direction and then reaccelerate these drills.
Mark Haney: They look like eighth or ninth graders, something like that, but kids are damn quick.
Mark Haney: It's amazing.
Mark Haney: And then they're going through hopping drills and so on.
Mark Haney: It's pretty amazing the kind of things that I didn't do when I was a freshman in high school.
Daniel Thomas: but I see these kids that look like they're probably 14 years old doing yeah, and you know sometimes us as trainers, we have to force athletes to do things that aren't fun, that are a little more boring, which is why you see so much decelerating of athletes actually coming to a stop, and because most injuries happen non-contact.
Daniel Thomas: So if you're playing soccer, if you play football, if you play any sport, that's going to cause, that's going to have you doing a lot of change of direction.
Daniel Thomas: Most knee ankle injuries are non-contact, meaning an athlete's running stops, plants to go, do, go somewhere else, and a knee goes out and ankle goes out, rolls, breaks, snaps, tears, and so the reason for that is everyone trains acceleration.
Daniel Thomas: How can I go faster, go faster, go faster.
Daniel Thomas: But the faster you get, the harder it is to slow down and stop Right.
Daniel Thomas: So a lot of people forget to train the deceleration portion, which is actually the most important as far as knee health and injury prevention.
Mark Haney: So one thing that you haven't mentioned yet but I assume it's a piece of the program is mobility and flexibility, those kind of things being strong at the end.
Mark Haney: Range of motion Is there an aspect that's kind of helping with?
Mark Haney: You know, so people can touch their toes as athletes, you start building some muscles and next thing you know you can't even touch your toes, For sure, yeah, For the younger athletes we don't do nearly as much mobility and stretching work because they're so stinking liberating.
Daniel Thomas: They can put both their legs behind their head and fall back.
Daniel Thomas: You know, kids go coach, can I do this and I go?
Daniel Thomas: Sure, but I can't, cause I won't get up if I do that stretch with you.
Daniel Thomas: For us, with the younger athletes, it's more about just emphasizing and building the importance of it and letting them know, like you said, hey, as you guys get bigger, as you get older and stronger, your muscles are going to grow, they're going to become tight and then we need to lengthen those muscles.
Daniel Thomas: So with the kids, it's more just about harping on and educating right.
Daniel Thomas: With the older athletes, we have to literally force them to do a period of time of stretching because they won't do it.
Daniel Thomas: And I remember when I was in high school sometimes it goes stretch.
Daniel Thomas: Okay, you know you do five seconds and you're like I'm good, but it actually takes about 30 to 45 seconds and holding one particular stretch, to let that muscle fully elongate and relax.
Daniel Thomas: So forcing athletes to stretch, especially our older high school and college athletes, is so important because more mobility means less injuries and means access to more of your body, and the more access you have, the more power you're going to have 100%.
Mark Haney: I started yoga two or three years ago and it's amazing you know I do CrossFit and I do yoga and the flexibility, the strength that you have at the end range right A deep squat or some other position that some people can't even get into.
Mark Haney: You know, as a guy that's not a big guy, not even very strong, but like can lift more than maybe somebody who's super strong, because they can barely get into that range of motion.
Daniel Thomas: For sure.
Daniel Thomas: It's a huge advantage to have flexibility 100% and, as athletes, the number one area that people don't focus on that actually makes the biggest difference is ankle mobility.
Daniel Thomas: Nobody thinks about that.
Daniel Thomas: But speed is all about angles.
Daniel Thomas: What angle can you have your shin in?
Daniel Thomas: Can you have your foot in to be able to project the direction that you want to project, whether that's laterally or straight?
Daniel Thomas: And if you have too tight of calves, too tight of Achilles, too tight of feet, you don't, you're not able to put yourself in the angle that you want to be in, and so athletes might actually have more speed in them, but they don't have the ability to even access it because of that lack of range of motion.
Mark Haney: Have you ever seen that knees over toes guy?
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, totally.
Mark Haney: That guy is pretty interesting, so anybody who hasn't seen him, I can't think of his name, but they call him the knees over toes.
Mark Haney: Yeah, because when I was a kid and you get taught to do squats, you're supposed to go down to as close to parallel, but keep your.
Mark Haney: You know, stay back.
Mark Haney: Don't let your knees go over your toes.
Mark Haney: Right, that's bad.
Mark Haney: And if you're doing a front lunge, don't let your knees go over your toes.
Mark Haney: And you know.
Mark Haney: But he's.
Mark Haney: His theory, which I subscribe to, is be careful.
Mark Haney: But if you're not using any way to start, if you can build that flexibility and that some amount of stabilization, strength at the end range and then build, you're going to be able to.
Mark Haney: Your hops are going to.
Mark Haney: You build a jump a lot better.
Daniel Thomas: For sure and I 100% agree.
Daniel Thomas: I think, as long as people understand that it's a process, that you should start with body weight until you can progress and add load, like he does.
Daniel Thomas: But if you look at any athlete that's in a squat position or an athlete that's about to jump, if you say, hey, I want you to jump as high as you can, try to touch the rim on a basketball hoop, if you look at the angle, their knees are forward, right.
Daniel Thomas: So nobody jumps with their butt hips going back in their knees completely straight up and down the angle of your legs.
Daniel Thomas: Your knees are always pressed forward.
Daniel Thomas: So it's really interesting to think that, as coaches, your teaching kids don't let your knees go forward, don't let your knees go forward.
Daniel Thomas: But then when they're in their sport and they have to run and jump, their knees are always forward.
Daniel Thomas: So we're actually setting them up for failure and to get injured because they're not strengthening the tenons and ligaments needed in the right angles.
Mark Haney: It's amazing.
Mark Haney: You know people complain about social media and there's good and bad in it, but, like when I was a kid, the way you got your data is you bought Sports Illustrated Magazine and whatever that article happened to be, it got subscribed to.
Mark Haney: Next thing you know, the high school football coaches are teaching whatever somebody was talking about in Sports Illustrated Magazine and you didn't have access to these different sciences or these different points of view that are now pretty out there.
Mark Haney: So who do you in terms of continuous learning, your continuing education, who do you look to or where do you look for that data, that new info?
Daniel Thomas: So for just straight linear speed, I love a guy named Les Spielman.
Daniel Thomas: I actually went to a conference recently in San Diego with about 90 other strength and conditioning coaches and he was one of the guest speakers there.
Daniel Thomas: He, in my opinion, is the current most popular best coach when it comes to teaching mechanics of sprinting and straight.
Daniel Thomas: Now, he doesn't do a lot of change of direction.
Daniel Thomas: He does mostly like track work, but he works with athletes like soccer players and football players, prepping them for the NFL combine and things like that.
Daniel Thomas: So he's one of my favorite for straight, linear speed.
Daniel Thomas: And then you know from there.
Daniel Thomas: There's so much information out there it's tough for young athletes to really decipher what's for them and what's not.
Daniel Thomas: And, like you said, I think there's access, which is amazing, but at the same time, sometimes kids don't know what the right thing to look at is, like you were saying.
Daniel Thomas: So a big problem or a big thing that I see personally with my high school athletes is they're all lifting and training like bodybuilders, because everybody on TikTok, instagram, you know, youtube is training like a bodybuilder.
Daniel Thomas: So, for example, that means they're doing a lot of isolated movements.
Daniel Thomas: Right Lateral shoulder raises things where they're really strict and moving one body part and isolating one muscle group.
Daniel Thomas: Well, as athletes, you never do that.
Daniel Thomas: Everything as an athlete is full body and you're being as explosive as possible.
Daniel Thomas: So it's not that it's bad because it's going to make you look good.
Daniel Thomas: Shoulders will get a little bit bigger and look nice, but if we want to be athletes, we have to be doing full body, explosive movements that are going to generate power from the ground up.
Daniel Thomas: So if you're doing an upper body shoulder movement, it should start from the ground right, so like, for example, a CrossFit term.
Daniel Thomas: Right would be like a thruster right.
Daniel Thomas: Or a squat to press right.
Daniel Thomas: That would be a better shoulder exercise that I would want to get out of an athlete versus having them do a strict military shoulder press.
Daniel Thomas: Because I'm looking for how can we generate power using our whole body.
Mark Haney: Right Makes sense.
Mark Haney: Okay, so I love diving into the.
Mark Haney: You know the different aspects of the sports, and so one other thing I was going to ask you about was I always think about quick twitch, right.
Mark Haney: So, how do you develop those quick twitch muscles?
Mark Haney: So I recently started wearing these shoes they are the kind that I found them with from the yoga teacher.
Mark Haney: He recommended them, but they're kind of like barefoot shoes and I've been wearing them probably four or five months.
Mark Haney: And I went to Cabo the other day and we're walking around and got sore muscles in my calves from walking around too much.
Mark Haney: Not a big walker, but I've felt my feet strengthening over the last, you know, three or four months and it's been working my feet in a sort of a different way.
Mark Haney: They haven't been worked as much when you've got like regular shoes on.
Mark Haney: It's a lot of different kinds of support.
Mark Haney: So you walk around in Cabo and then yesterday I ran a mile and I felt myself sort of like bouncier.
Mark Haney: Almost reminded me of the back when I was a kid.
Mark Haney: I remember when I was a kid I was like well, I always felt like I was a little faster with I was barefooted.
Mark Haney: It's like interesting, you know, is there Okay?
Mark Haney: So in terms of developing quick twitch in your feet, how important is it to be barefooted, or in certain kinds of shoes that are a little bit less supportive, and does that really matter?
Mark Haney: Is that a factor in anything you think about?
Daniel Thomas: I think it does play a factor to a certain extent.
Daniel Thomas: The one reason why I don't overly emphasize athletes to train barefoot often is because they don't play their sport barefoot.
Mark Haney: Okay.
Daniel Thomas: So that's the number one reason why I don't push it aggressively.
Daniel Thomas: But I do like to emphasize the fact that strengthening your feet, ankles and your Achilles is extremely important for athletes to be able to maximize their power Right.
Daniel Thomas: So, for example, an athlete that likes to back squat all the time and can back squat, you know, 500 pounds and has huge quads and hammers, hamstrings and glutes If they don't ever focus on strengthening their feet, the arches of their feet and their ankles.
Daniel Thomas: What I try to tell people is your feet are like the tires of a Ferrari and the big muscles are like the engine.
Daniel Thomas: If you have this big old engine but you got no tires, you're not going to go anywhere.
Daniel Thomas: So you have to have strength and power on your feet and ankles, because when you apply force, speed is forced into the ground, which is going to increase your velocity.
Daniel Thomas: So if you don't have the strength to apply all that force from your legs, you're not even maximizing the power that you have in your legs because your feet can't handle it.
Daniel Thomas: So you're either going to get injured because you're going to roll your ankle or you're just going to miss out on speed.
Daniel Thomas: So we've been implementing more and more exercises, and this is actually part of something that I took from Les Spielman recently of doing some barefoot exercises and training to help develop foot and ankle strength.
Mark Haney: Interesting- Well, you think about.
Mark Haney: I hear they add for the good feet store and all these art supports there's a whole business out of giving you all this extra support for your shoes.
Mark Haney: When you think back to where we were, let's say, you know, 10,000 years ago, 20,000 years ago, like people didn't have the kind of shoes that we have today.
Mark Haney: So there is something, I guess, scientific around spend a little bit more time strengthening those feet so you can operate barefooted.
Mark Haney: Otherwise, we're going to be supporting the good feet store and all that stuff as we get older, which people do, right, yeah, and that's the same thing I tell athletes with with that coming with ankle braces or knee braces.
Daniel Thomas: are you currently injured?
Daniel Thomas: Do you need the extra support?
Daniel Thomas: Oh no, my injury was six months ago.
Daniel Thomas: I just my doctor just tells me to keep wearing it.
Daniel Thomas: Well, now you're going to become dependent on that brace and the goal is that brace is there for a purpose for a particular period of time.
Daniel Thomas: But once that that acute injury is done, we need to work to strengthen it back up so that you don't know you no longer need to be relying on that brace similar to kind of art support.
Daniel Thomas: So I think it's a similar situation.
Mark Haney: All right, let's talk a little bit about confidence, which can be really fragile.
Mark Haney: So I work with entrepreneurs, as I mentioned, and building a small business is really hard.
Mark Haney: Building a big business is really hard, but it can.
Mark Haney: It's easy to sort of become dispirited because of setbacks and could be injury.
Mark Haney: It could be anything and you know, as people begin to see progress, it gives us more hope and confidence and so on, and that that can act as fuel.
Mark Haney: Tell me about that and walk me through what that might look like from your athletes.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, confidence.
Daniel Thomas: The one thing that I absolutely love and get so excited about is confidence, is the number one thing and the quickest thing that we receive and that we hear about from our athletes that come to dynamic training.
Daniel Thomas: Because a parent will come and after two sessions with their athlete which I think we all know, that two of any type of workout you're not going to actually see a significant amount of growth, right, but what happens is the energy, the love and the confidence that we're instilling into these athletes is making them play faster in their sport, because they're no longer second guessing themselves, they're no longer hesitating before movements.
Daniel Thomas: So much of speed is confidence, because what happens is, if you're hesitating, you're moving slower.
Daniel Thomas: Right, if you don't believe in your abilities, you're going to second guess yourself, you're going to move slower.
Daniel Thomas: So to just have somebody in your corner, that's like you can do this, you've got this, I know what you can do.
Daniel Thomas: You've got more to for a young athlete to be like hey, I, I don't need a second guess myself, I know coach DT, coach Connor, whatever coach it is, they believe.
Daniel Thomas: They told me I can do this, I know I can do it.
Daniel Thomas: So athletes that come to us and after two days, two days of training their parents like they're a new player on the field.
Daniel Thomas: They're so much faster.
Daniel Thomas: We can't week after two days and I'm like and in my head, I know that we didn't necessarily make them faster yet, but what we did was we instilled the confidence in the belief in themselves so quickly and so intensely that they no longer second guess themselves and now they're playing faster on the field.
Daniel Thomas: That's great.
Mark Haney: And thinking about the long term effects of confidence and sports.
Mark Haney: You know I keep referencing this back to business because that's my world, but I mean, I grew up around sports and I appreciate the value of teamwork and sports and being a part of when learning how to win, learning what working hard is all about.
Mark Haney: Those are the kind of attributes that we want for our family members and as we develop our confidence, as you know, is it from a nine year old to a 12 year old to a 14 year old, all of a sudden I've been going to DT for a while and man, it's kicked in now that I'm now the fastest guy in my football team, right, because I've been working at it for a time, in the kind of like reinforcement that that has of like good values for winning in life and being happy in life.
Mark Haney: So you must have those kind of success stories.
Mark Haney: We've seen progression where that person became all league or something like that 100%.
Daniel Thomas: And, you know, I think more than just the success in the field is being able to see the athletes that were shy and timid grow and become leaders within their team right, because everything, some things are taught, some things are caught right.
Daniel Thomas: So when you're, when you treat these athletes the way that we treat them, when we build that confidence in them, now they have more confidence to stand up and to be more proud and right.
Daniel Thomas: So then now we get to see them treating their teammates and treating their you know coaches and their family members and their everyday life the way that we're treating them Right.
Daniel Thomas: And it's the same way like even though we coach speed and we train athletes.
Daniel Thomas: You know, from the business perspective, I treat my coaches the same way.
Daniel Thomas: I treat my athletes right.
Daniel Thomas: If I want my coach to do something different, I don't come at him and hammer him down into the ground.
Daniel Thomas: I tell him about how, how, make sure he knows how valuable he is.
Daniel Thomas: I make sure they know how much we appreciate them, how great they are at what they do.
Daniel Thomas: And here's also another way that you can take your, take it to the next level as a coach and be better.
Daniel Thomas: You know what I mean.
Daniel Thomas: So that's how we talk to our athletes, the same way I talk to my coaches, and that's the same way.
Daniel Thomas: I hope that you know these kids can take it and then apply it to their job skills.
Daniel Thomas: You know what I mean, how you're talking about business, cause is every the number one thing.
Daniel Thomas: There's so many great coaches and trainers in the world, but there's not good businessmen in the world.
Daniel Thomas: So a lot of people say you hear people all the time oh, I used to be a trainer Once.
Daniel Thomas: Oh, I had a season of life where I was a coach, but not a lot of people can make it sustainable because they don't have the business side of it, but it it intertwined so much.
Daniel Thomas: And if we can just get people to understand and to realize that it's not just sports here and then now this is the world.
Daniel Thomas: If you can take the traits and the things that you've learned as an athlete, you know it carries over so much.
Mark Haney: Yeah, and one of those things.
Mark Haney: I have a kind of a mantra that I use.
Mark Haney: There's a lot of people that start things, but the world needs more finishers and I think we learned that through finishing and playing four years of football or whatever it happens to be, um to to accomplish our order of playing four years of football and high in college, you know another realm, um, those are things that you know we never.
Mark Haney: We never lose those and they're so valuable.
Mark Haney: So, um, as you two guys talking sports, and for anybody, this can happen in other aspects of life besides athletics, but in people were.
Mark Haney: A lot of people are drawn to athletics and it can be really uh, you know, it can be really gratifying and help you.
Mark Haney: Yeah.
Daniel Thomas: And in today's world where kids, you know, everybody wants instant gratification, instant likes, instant shares, instant follows, you know, uh, if you're not involved in sports, it's hard to understand that you have to put in work.
Mark Haney: If you want to see results.
Daniel Thomas: And so sports is just the easiest way to really show a young person that you want this result, you have to put in this work Right In the regular world nowadays, kids don't, people don't think that, oh, I've been at a job for 90 days Now I should get a raise because I deserve a raise.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, right, something as basic as that when it's like.
Daniel Thomas: But what are you bringing to the table?
Daniel Thomas: How much, how much work have you put in what you know?
Daniel Thomas: What are you doing to make your business grow so that the person at the head, the owner, the manager wants to give you a raise?
Daniel Thomas: Right, that's the like, little things like that that you learn as a, as an athlete Coach, I want more playing time.
Daniel Thomas: I've been here for a year sitting on the bench.
Daniel Thomas: Shouldn't I be playing now?
Daniel Thomas: Well, what are you doing to improve better to me?
Daniel Thomas: What are you doing to improve?
Daniel Thomas: What are you doing that's going to set you apart from everyone else?
Daniel Thomas: That's going to give you deserving time?
Daniel Thomas: Yeah.
Mark Haney: And, I think, encouraging people to stand out at some level too, because a lot of people want to run with the pack and to to make it to college and place football in college at some level.
Mark Haney: You stood out in high school.
Mark Haney: You stood out so that you got recognized, so that you could play in college.
Mark Haney: And I think sometimes, whether it be as in a job, employment or even on the football field, we sort of sprint at the end of practice and we're going to run with the pack, right, we're going to blend, we're going to kind of do do the same as everybody else and those people that come in early, stay late.
Mark Haney: We weren't put everything they have into the sprints.
Mark Haney: Even though they're hard, they get noticed right, they stand out to a lot of us that are just like.
Mark Haney: You know, the coaches always look and type thing in business and or in sports.
Mark Haney: Yeah, and I think the biggest thing that I've seen.
Daniel Thomas: now that I've been in the game for a little while now I have I have friends and ex teammates that are now recruiting coaches for colleges.
Daniel Thomas: So they come and they talk to me and we talk about athletes and I now it's pretty fun Now I have coaches that call me hey, I'm looking for a classic 2021 offensive lineman.
Daniel Thomas: What do you got?
Daniel Thomas: So you know, coach is coming to me and it's interesting for me to talk to them and they'll come watch a game that they know you're not going to play in or that it's going to be a blowout, and they want to see how you are on the bench.
Daniel Thomas: Like that's.
Daniel Thomas: That was the biggest surprise to me.
Daniel Thomas: Coaches will.
Daniel Thomas: If you're a big recruit and they're going to offer you a scholarship, they want to come watch you play because they want to see are you a good teammate?
Daniel Thomas: Are you on the sideline clapping for your teammate as a basketball player when they get subbed out?
Daniel Thomas: Or are you just sitting in the corner now because you're not playing and it's all about you?
Daniel Thomas: Like I've been very it's opened my eyes a ton and as I see things and as I learn what coaches are looking for, I try my best to just share that with all my athletes and just remind them of uh and try to just set them up for success.
Mark Haney: You know who's not a good fit for your program, cause we're talking about a mindset of you got to have a certain amount of desire to go put yourself through those kinds of workouts.
Mark Haney: Um, so I imagine for me I'm like if people don't have desire, maybe they're not a good fit, but I throw that more to you as like who like for me is that if I'm hiring an employee, if they don't have desire, probably not a good fit, but as a customer, who's a good fit and who's not?
Mark Haney: So for our younger athletes, we we.
Daniel Thomas: I don't think there's anyone that we that would ever need to be turned away, because, as a, as a young person, potential is endless and, like you said, so much of it is about confidence and instilling that.
Daniel Thomas: Whether that goes into sports or it doesn't, just to be able to instill confidence into a young person is is the number one thing that we want to do, and then everything else is an aftermath.
Daniel Thomas: Right?
Daniel Thomas: The only time that I ever really have a conversation with an athlete about hey, is this for you?
Daniel Thomas: Is when they're a high school athlete, and I have to make that.
Daniel Thomas: I have to have that serious discussion with them of do you want to play and just enjoy your, your, your high school years and have so much fun?
Daniel Thomas: Because if that's the case, I love it.
Daniel Thomas: I'm going to help you.
Daniel Thomas: However, you want to be helped and I'm going to make sure that you get the most out of what you want.
Daniel Thomas: But if that's all you want, then beautiful, I'm not going to push you past your comfort zone.
Daniel Thomas: I'm not.
Daniel Thomas: I'm going to allow you to stay in your comfort zone, because you're here for a purpose to have fun and a purpose to enjoy yourself.
Mark Haney: Right, you don't come in and say hey, you're wasting your mom and dad's money.
Mark Haney: Of course not, yeah, but the athletes that tell me straight up coach.
Daniel Thomas: I want to play in college.
Daniel Thomas: And then I look at them and I see their work ethic and I go hey, you told me what you want.
Daniel Thomas: This is what the outcome you want.
Daniel Thomas: What you're doing right now is not going to get you there.
Daniel Thomas: If you're cool with playing in high school, you're going to get a high school and just enjoying yourself You're doing great.
Daniel Thomas: If you want to go to the next level, how are you going to stand out Like you talked about?
Daniel Thomas: Right?
Daniel Thomas: How are you going to be different?
Daniel Thomas: And I think that in today's world, where kids and young people want things given to them so easily, it's the easiest time to stand out, cause before everyone was a blue collar worker, right, everybody had to work seven days a week If you wanted to be successful.
Daniel Thomas: Nowadays, people want everything handed to them.
Daniel Thomas: So when an athlete or a young person is showing up early, staying like put in the work, it's so much more noticeable now because the majority of people aren't doing it anymore.
Daniel Thomas: So I try to really let them know that, like, there's, the opportunity is there, you still have to put in the work and seize it, but less people want to put in the work.
Daniel Thomas: So when you put in the work you're going to stand out.
Mark Haney: Okay, so I have two questions that were given to you by my grandchildren.
Daniel Thomas: Okay, I love it.
Mark Haney: Riley says she's the volleyball player.
Mark Haney: She plays softball too and she wants to jump higher.
Mark Haney: How do I jump higher?
Mark Haney: Yeah?
Daniel Thomas: totally.
Daniel Thomas: So the number one thing I tell kids is first, we got to make sure you know how to jump.
Daniel Thomas: Okay, right, you got to know how to jump properly, because a lot of people have power, they don't know how to maximize it.
Daniel Thomas: So we need to learn how to have good jumping mechanics.
Daniel Thomas: So that's number one.
Daniel Thomas: Number two from there is you have to jump.
Mark Haney: And it sounds crazy to say that.
Daniel Thomas: It's crazy to say that, but that's what you have to do.
Daniel Thomas: It's like I tell people.
Daniel Thomas: When it comes to sprinting, people want to do all these cool drills and they're important, and there's importance to foot strength, ankle strength.
Daniel Thomas: But if you want to get faster, at the end of the day you have to make sure you're sprinting often, because if you're not reaching that 90 to 100% threshold, you're not going to get faster.
Daniel Thomas: So with jumping we can do all these different exercises.
Daniel Thomas: It's important to have strength right, it's important to build power, it's important to know how to jump properly, but at the end of the day you have to jump and you have to jump frequently.
Mark Haney: So thinking about volleyball and maybe you'd fall up onto her question.
Mark Haney: So jump, a lot is volleyball.
Mark Haney: You're familiar with all these different sports.
Mark Haney: Is that more?
Mark Haney: You gotta be more springy, like the bounce, the bounding I'm picturing like box jumps, right.
Mark Haney: So you jump up on a box from a standing jump, okay, that's one thing.
Mark Haney: But if you jump on and off the box at some level or jump rope or that type, of thing you're more like build it like sort of almost like a springiness which is more important for volleyball.
Daniel Thomas: I would say for one with volleyball, especially with younger athletes, is they need to actually learn their approach, cause volleyball is really big on like how they approach their jumps to the net.
Daniel Thomas: Okay, couple steps in a jump, exactly.
Daniel Thomas: So making sure that they feel comfortable and they're smooth in that, because if you're not comfortable in that approach, you're not going to get anything out of your jump, no matter what.
Daniel Thomas: So making sure that they're comfortable in their approach.
Daniel Thomas: But then, secondly, it's going to be all about how light, how springy and how explosive can we be.
Daniel Thomas: So that's a combination of power right Increasing.
Daniel Thomas: So there's some people have a lot of power, bad, poor mechanics.
Daniel Thomas: Some people have great mechanics but then they lack the power.
Daniel Thomas: You gotta find a sweet spot of both.
Daniel Thomas: So I would say, if you know how to jump and you jump a lot let's add some resistance and some load to your training so that to increase strength.
Mark Haney: Would that be a band or some weight?
Daniel Thomas: Depending on how old the athlete is, I would adjust it accordingly, but definitely I'm referring more about strength.
Daniel Thomas: So yeah, so adding load.
Mark Haney: Like for a 12 year old potentially, or a 13 year old should be 13, maybe a squat with, like a children's bar, the bar only, or something like that.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah.
Daniel Thomas: Or, for example, I like to simulate the movements too, so like putting holding a dumbbell in each hand right.
Daniel Thomas: And doing a squat jump with the dumbbells right outside their knees.
Daniel Thomas: Oh okay, Like keep a light dumbbell or something like that, Exactly, yeah something that's going to add and make it difficult for them to get off the ground.
Daniel Thomas: So when they let go of those dumbbells, they're now able to they feel lighter, they feel like they're exploding higher, which is a form of resistance training, how you would for sprinting, but now it's for jumping.
Mark Haney: Okay, got you Okay.
Mark Haney: So Rocco's question is let's hear this one oh, what's your favorite workout?
Mark Haney: Oh, my God, what's DT like?
Daniel Thomas: Oh, my goodness, my favorite workout, my specialty back in the day, was my quickness, my ability to change direction very quickly.
Daniel Thomas: So I love drills that are, I wouldn't say, footwork based, but a lot of lateral movement, because I think that in sports 99% of sports, unless you run track, most sports your quickness is more important than your top end speed.
Daniel Thomas: Not that top end speed is not important, but in sports like 5% or less, are you ever going to have an opportunity to open up and run?
Daniel Thomas: In basketball, how often is an athlete not having to move anywhere and just running straight at full speed?
Daniel Thomas: Not that often In football, unless a gaping hole opens for that running back and he has an 80 yard run.
Daniel Thomas: Most of the time they're running, they're cutting, they're jumping, they're twisting and they're having to change direction.
Daniel Thomas: For volleyball, they move in a small five by five foot square where they're forward fact side side.
Daniel Thomas: So for me I absolutely love quick change of direction drills because they're the most game applicable.
Mark Haney: Interesting.
Mark Haney: So yeah, when I was in high school and youth football and as a way I coach, we had something some people call them jingle jangles or suicides, where you go to like, say, 10 yards and 10 yard back and forth and then you maybe do a sprint out of it or something.
Mark Haney: We did that at basketball too and but they're short distance in terms of change of direction.
Mark Haney: You're not going 40 yards change of direction, you're going five yards, 10 yards change of direction, real quick back and forth.
Mark Haney: Is that what you're talking about?
Mark Haney: Yeah, for sure.
Daniel Thomas: And, honestly, the best drills that you can do, especially for youth athletes, are games.
Daniel Thomas: And people, people get so serious about training they forget like playing sharks and meadows, those kids will pull out speed you've never seen to avoid getting tagged by a shark.
Daniel Thomas: And you know.
Daniel Thomas: So their ability to run and someone's coming, ooh, they have to step back, and now they're gonna give you a little shake to try to avoid you.
Daniel Thomas: Those are the most applicable things to actual sports.
Daniel Thomas: That's why, back in the day, you know the best athletes.
Daniel Thomas: What training programs did Barry Sanders have?
Daniel Thomas: He was out on the street playing touch football with his friends, learned how to juke out half the neighborhood.
Daniel Thomas: You know what I mean, and so I think sometimes we get so structured with workouts that we forget that having fun and just and doing things at full speed and being elusive is so important.
Mark Haney: So I'm thinking about like the impact that you're making on your offices in Roseville.
Mark Haney: We're in Rockland.
Daniel Thomas: Rockland case out off industrial somewhere, yeah, off sunset I think.
Mark Haney: I've dropped off or picked up my grandkids there a time or two so I have an awareness where it's at.
Mark Haney: But you think about it.
Mark Haney: So most of your clientele is probably greater Clashmore County area For the most part yes, and you think about, like the impact you're having on Roseville High School, oakmont High School, delaware, o'grannet Bay you know Lincoln and the long-term impact you're having not only on their athletic programs but on the kind of athlete student athlete that is coming out of your program or that you're complimenting for those organizations.
Mark Haney: You ever think about the amount of impact that you're having?
Daniel Thomas: Yes and no.
Daniel Thomas: I think you know I sometimes I think we forget because we get stuck in the daily routine of like it's a fact, like we've almost become like a factory where you know athletes come in, like I think, over the summer we had a day where we had 120 athletes in the door in one day, which is a huge number for us, and so sometimes on the day to day you forget about that.
Daniel Thomas: But then I get to step back and you know someone like yourself will bring it up to me and it's like wow.
Daniel Thomas: You know, we really get to touch 120 people.
Daniel Thomas: Not a lot of people get the opportunity to interact and to work with that many people on a daily basis, so it's really something special.
Mark Haney: Yeah, we talked about confidence alone besides athleticism.
Mark Haney: Right, that confidence level of you know 100 kids a day, you know, and over years and years and years of doing it, there really is a compounding effect to that for Sacramento, because they're not all gonna live in Lincoln and Roosevelt, rockland, I'm gonna move all over Sacramento, all over the country.
Mark Haney: But like the compounding effect of what you're doing is enormous.
Mark Haney: I mean that's why I love sports.
Mark Haney: It's just, you know, a high school football coach or a high school itty-to-ty coach that's doing it right, with the positivity like what you're talking about, making such an impact.
Mark Haney: I mean I don't know that we give those people enough credit, you enough credit.
Mark Haney: So I just wanna say thank you for doing that, thank you.
Mark Haney: Thank you.
Mark Haney: Helpful to growing good people, good citizens.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, and I think that if you ask anyone that played sports, even if they only played at the youth level, not even in high school if you ask them like, who was someone that impacted you the most in your life?
Daniel Thomas: It was always a coach of some level, like my favorite coaches were when I was in like sixth, seventh and eighth grade.
Daniel Thomas: And you know, I think that as coaches sometimes we forget that, like you're making a lasting impression.
Daniel Thomas: You know, I invited to my wedding coaches that I had in my seventh grade junior pop Warner football team came to my wedding.
Daniel Thomas: You know what I mean.
Daniel Thomas: Like that's the kind of impact that they have, and so it really is awesome and something special to be able to be a part of it and I've seen it growing up, cause my dad actually is the was the co-founder of the Lord's Gym in Roosevelt, Atlanta.
Mark Haney: I didn't know that.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, so when we, when I was growing up, we used to go out to eat and your mom's Cheryl yes, you were telling me earlier.
Mark Haney: I went to high school with her crazy.
Daniel Thomas: So I remember, you know, being a young kid and we'd be eating somewhere and randomly someone would go is that Bill Thomas, which is my dad's name and they would just hear his voice from across the restaurant and come over to you, coached me 30 years ago and my dad and they'd had this huge conversation in the young person I'm married now and the things I teach my son, you taught me back when I was, you know, 13 years old, this and the other and I'd be like dad, do you even remember that person?
Daniel Thomas: And I'd be like no, not really, but that's okay and to think like as coaches and people of influence in these young people's lives, it's like you have no idea what that trickle down effect is really gonna have.
Daniel Thomas: So it's really important.
Mark Haney: All right.
Mark Haney: So last question maybe a longterm vision for the organization, and maybe I'll make a two part question.
Mark Haney: And then, after longterm vision, and what advice would you have to maybe a parent who is listening to this and their kids are in sports and thinking about how, accelerating, you know, giving them a little extra boosts, which is a lot of what you do what might they wanna do to give them that?
Mark Haney: To maybe come visit you?
Mark Haney: Or maybe there's something else that you might advise them.
Daniel Thomas: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, whatever your kid is gonna do consistently is the best program for them.
Daniel Thomas: That's what I tell people the most.
Daniel Thomas: I hate when people just drop in every four months and do a workout with us because they're not gonna actually see the results that I want them to see, and so the best thing I would tell a parent is it doesn't even matter.
Daniel Thomas: It does matter what program it is, but what's more important than the program is that it's something that they enjoy and that they're gonna do consistently, because parents, you can tell real quick which kids are coming because their parent forced them to show up, versus the kids that are hungry and that enjoy it and so find the program that your kid is going to have a smile and enjoy doing.
Daniel Thomas: You're gonna get more out of them, all right and longterm vision of the organization.
Mark Haney: Oh man, that's such a tough question.
Daniel Thomas: I go back and forth all the time, but at the end of the day, the goal is to reach as many people as possible.
Daniel Thomas: So, whether that looks like multiple locations or just one mega large location, we've already reached way more people than I ever thought we would.
Daniel Thomas: This was always a side hustle for me as I was starting my work career, and so the fact that it's become what it is and that people I see people walking around wearing the dynamic training shirts and the logo and it really touches my heart.
Daniel Thomas: So the goal is how can we impact the next generation as much as possible?
Daniel Thomas: And so I don't know what that journey, where that journey is gonna go, but I'm excited.
Mark Haney: Daniel Thomas, owner of Dynamic Training, appreciate what you do.
Mark Haney: Thanks for coming on the show.
Mark Haney: Thanks so much, mark.
Mark Haney: I'll see you in a minute.