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as my longtime listeners know or the

people that know me well but perhaps

some of you newer listeners of the show

might not know I have my ear to the

ground on a variety of local political

things and I don't have a clear-cut

party affiliation

but when it comes to local issues I

am very concerned about real estate

related things right and this is a real

estate podcast and guess what we have

some local elections coming up very soon

a lot of Mayor and city council

elections happening very soon and I

would like to bring to bear some of the

knowledge that I have on some of these

issues but before we get into the hyper

local things I want to address a few

other political things real quick first

off I'm recording this about a week

before this episode is going to

broadcast we may very well be in the

middle of a federal government shutdown

by the time this is released I don't

know I I think it's going to happen I

don't know how long we're going to be

shut down for

but just know that I'm not really

discussing that in this podcast because

I don't exactly know yet we haven't

gotten to I'm recording this before

October 1st so I'm not yet sure what's

going to happen or how that's going

to impact things but it does have an

impact on real estate right it impacts

government-backed loans in some

instances it could impact Social

Security related things people being

able to do tax look up tax records

that might be necessary for Real

Estate closings Etc I am not a fan of

government shutdowns because it

disproportionately hurts people that

need the government to run that tend to

be on the the middle class or lower

income spectrum of things so I am not a

fan of of government shutdowns I'm

not sure whether it's going to happen

for sure or how long it will be

but I'm just throwing that out there

in case some of you or listening to

this and are like wow he talked about

politics but didn't address the

government shutdown I don't know I'm

recording this too early for for me to

address that so we'll just see what

happens hopefully if we shut down it

won't be for very long

let's talk about County Council for a

second before Greenville County Council

before we get into some of these local

elections

I went to a Greenville County council

meeting and I've told you guys before

the County Council is a bit of a

circus right now in Greenville and I can

tell you as an eyewitness it is still

very much a circus

right now so the reason why I went

was to oppose that the county

effectively wants to zone unzoned areas

how are they planning to do that they're

planning to make all of these

extraordinary development rules such as

forcing people if they build that their

lot has to be one and a half acres if

they have a septic tank if they're

building with a septic tank that is the

craziest thing that I've heard real

estate wise a local municipality tried

to to push through in a long time trying

to make unzoned areas have a one and a

half acre requirements just because they

have a septic South Carolina already has

stricter septic rules than almost all of

the other states in the Southeast that

were that were near that were near

geographically

and they're trying to basically make

it eight times stricter than what the

current DHEC requirements are that is

absolutely insane

and so thankfully County Council

they realized that they were going to

go have some opposition they were

supposed to have a second reading but

they backed away they decided to push

that into October so we'll see what

happens but to me that's completely

outrageous that for unzoned areas to

make that kind of requirement like I

said this is

a de facto zoning of unzoned areas that

hurts people's home values that

hurts a housing affordability you know

if you're if a developer tries to come

in they have to develop one and a half

acre pots guess what guess what kind of

homes go on one and a half acre pots of

land those are luxury homes that's not

going to help housing affordability in

in the way that people think of it

so not and if you try to just build

you know standard three hundred thousand

dollar house again you have to account

for that acreage requirement that three

hundred thousand dollar house is

probably going to be more like 450,000

so it's just it really is a

to me an outrageous thing

that Greenville County Council has

proposed I hope that after they've had a

month more to think about it that

they'll come to their senses and decide

oh yeah that was a really stupid idea

we're not going to do that

I'll mention as well

there are there are some Outsiders on

County Council that they..

how should I say this I'm not going

to name names okay you can go to County

Council yourself and see it for yourself

but they want to cause a Ruckus they

want to throw their weight around

they're on the outside kind of looking

in and so they just cause turmoil

interrupting a lot saying things you

know unnecessary not understanding

Council rules speaking out of turn it

was honestly it was very annoying for me

being there and how often and every

there's Rumblings in the room there you

know it wasn't a packed Council

chamber by the way this is my first time

in the new Council chamber which is

pretty nice it's plenty of room for

everyone it was probably only 30 35 full

in there which was surprising I

thought it would be a lot more full that

there was you know media members

there and whatnot

but there was there was some

unruly things that happened people that

spoke not from the from the county

but just people from the community

that came up and spoke that were hurling

accusations against County people a

County council members all sorts of

chaotic things happening like I already

said and

we we need to do a little bit of soul

searching in terms of Greenville County

Council now we're not going to be able

to do that

yet and some of the the people that are

trying to cause a Ruckus and County

Council are going to be in Council

for a little while longer

because they were just elected in not

that long ago but yeah this is this is

kind of the state of where things are

we need to as Citizens citizens of

Greenville County you need to attend

these County Council meetings know what

your County council person is doing and try to

voice to them and and let them know

that the way they're acting right now is

unacceptable this is having a

disfunctional County Council like the

one that we currently have can have a

very negative impact on the trajectory

of the county we don't want to see that

happen there are a bunch of seven five

votes you know we have a 12-person

council so there can be six six votes

that end up not getting passed and also

effectively not getting shot down so all

it takes is for one Council seat to

flip to

you know become one of these situations

where we're having a bunch of six six

votes I think that would be a real

negative for a lot of people so

I'm not citing one way or the other

in terms of like going through

specific votes outside of the zoning

unzowned areas requiring you know some

of these septic rules and some of these

riparian buffer rules that that the

council is trying to do that I think is

completely out of line

but there there is still a lot of

chaos going on in County Council and

and I think it's just worth mentioning

all right

let's get into the meat and potatoes of

this episode and that is local elections

let's let's talk big picture before I

get into this and and let me just start

by saying there have been in previous

election Seasons I have actually

given verbal support to certain

people and certain candidates and and

have given you know opinions on specific

candidates I'm not going to be doing

that this time around I may never do

that again

not that it had any kind of a

negative impact

I just I think it's necessary for

you all to do your own research at

the end of the day and look into the

people that you might be supporting

or not supporting

also I've learned over the years that

particularly if it's someone that's new

that's running for election that they

oftentimes don't really know what

they're doing and so I may come out

against someone because they don't

really know what they what they're doing

and that they end up getting voted in

and they end up doing a pretty good job

because they have to have to learn on

the Fly not uncommon if you're a

newly elected official on any level of

government you're not going to know most

of the time what you're doing you know

for the first six to 12 months that

you're in office so I don't want to

jump the gun a bit on some of these

elections but I do want to kind of give

you guys some some big picture things

and we will talk about some specific

races here in a moment before we do

that I just want to set the stage here

okay

a lot of candidates and I've spoken to a

lot of a good number of candidates

running for office in Greenville TR

Malden Easley Simpsonville

I've spoken to a lot of them

and a lot of the candidates understand

the simple concept that a municipality

city county state whatever is either

growing

or it's stagnating

there there's not a way to kind of keep

things the same

and not run into stagnation actually one

person I spoke to used Lauren's South

Carolina as an example now perhaps the

Lauren's people on Lawrence city

council might disagree with this but

but they came in with a bunch of at

least in this person's words a bunch of

anti-development proposals they did that

and then guess what that then gave

essentially birth to Fountain Inn

becoming a Major City not a Major City but

City that became a an attraction of

Syria is turning on for some reason

yeah no I don't

Syria has gone crazy on me

all right

okay that was fun

I don't know if I said City and I

don't even know if you guys picked that

up because I've got these headphones on

so you probably didn't even hear any of

that so I apologize but

anyway Fountain Inn took

advantage of the fact that Lauren's

went in a more anti-development

Direction and guess what one of my best

listings that I've had this year was in

Fountain Inn people want to live there

it's it's they there's been some great

things that have happened there the past

10 years

and it's really grown in a lot

of positive ways they're still

affordable housing there's a acute

downtown they've done a lot of things

right and you know I don't know all

of the history there but according to

this person that I was talking to

who's running for election kind of

down in that area

a lot of it has to do with them just

taking advantage of Lauren's moving

in a more anti-development Direction

and so I think a lot of people

running for office right now coming

up here in in the next couple of months

they understand that municipalities are

either growing or stagnating and the

reality is when we're talking about

growing a lot goes into that word

that word's doing a lot of heavy lifting

but at the very least part a

component of that is that there has to

be more real estate development right

there's no growth if there's not real

estate development

and that's just the reality of the

situation you have to in order to see

growth in numbers growth and finances

growth and tax revenue whatever you have

to have more people those people need

housing and that housing has to come

from somewhere but that said many not

to be surprised

and we've talked about this before

many are concerned with the speed of the

growth this is the major major concern

and most multiple people think that

Greenville is turning into Charlotte or

Atlanta now I talked about this a few

months ago there is no way

no possible way within the next hundred

years for Greenville to become anything

like Charlotte or Atlanta it is

impossible

okay I'm not gonna rehash all of that

right now because we've talked about it

in the past I had a whole episode where

I talked about this but

what I will say is that there's not a

single group not a single developer or

anyone out there in government not

government Realtor Association anywhere

proposing anything that would remotely

that would that would come remotely

close to our area ballooning in the way

that Charlotte or Atlanta has it's just

who how is that going to happen how are

we going to all of the sudden go ten

times in size in a certain city when

there's just no developments being

proposed that would that would come

anywhere near that it's just it's not as

simple as people as people like to put

out in these talking points they like to

use Charlotte in Atlanta because they're

nearby we've all been to Charlotte and

Atlanta but the way those cities grew

back in the 30s 40s and 50s is

completely different than how Greenville

is growing in the 2020s right now it

just does not compare and honestly I

immediately disrespect in in my mind the

opinions of someone who Compares

Greenville to Charlotte or Atlanta if

you want to compare Greenville to

Asheville or perhaps even Nashville

perhaps I'm a little bit more open to

that but Charlotte and Atlanta no please

stop making those comparisons

and of course I'm not talking to

you my listeners I'm just talking

proverbially to to any of those out

there that are making those comparisons

these are just talking points

meant to get people riled up get people

all emotional but at the end of the day

they are toothless talking points to

compare Greenville to these much bigger

cities

the real issue of course is housing

affordability which we've talked about a

lot on the show and many of those

running do understand housing

affordability is a major issue but there

are real divisions of course over how to

solve the housing affordability issue

now if you're not familiar with the term

with the abbreviation

Ami you need to become familiar with it

it means area median income familiarize

yourself with that because within many

of the counties and cities in the

upstates developers are being tasked

with including affordable and or

Workforce housing specifically for

people who earn a certain amount of

money below the Ami okay so you'll hear

terms thrown out like 80 percent of Ami

or seventy percent of Ami that's what

they're talking about they're trying

basically they're setting aside a

portion of a development specifically

for people who make less income than the

average or or specifically than the

median

now I am in favor of these types of

initiatives I'm very much in favor of

you know there are certain people in

our community that you know we need for

instance firefighters we need police we

need teachers and whatnot well a lot of

these people are making below the area

median income and so how can they afford

housing

so it's very helpful when we have

these types of initiatives and

developers that are willing to

include housing for people on the lower

end of the Ami bracket because that's

something that we need

however

I don't like when people in

government

are completely against market rate

housing just what you might consider

just normal housing housing it doesn't

have income requirements market rate

housing when when basically they're

just like hey unless there's a

affordable housing component to

everything we're going to Stonewall all

market rate housing I am against that

right as

several people have said before all

housing is affordable housing right all

developments whether they adhere to Ami

requirements or whether they are market

rate housing whatever they contribute to

making housing more affordable

The Only Exception is if the

government gets in the way and starts

saying you have to have a one and a half

acre lot that's not going to help

housing become more affordable that's

the government just shooting us all in

the foot

in terms of you know trying to

make things more affordable and and

unfortunately that's the case the same

people that will say oh we want

affordable housing we'll say well in

unzoned areas we want one and a half

acre lots that is a completely

inconsistent perspective that needs to

be called out there are again I'm not

going to name names in this podcast but

there are a lot of people on City County

councils that are talking out of both

sides of their mouth when it comes to

the housing affordability issue and

perhaps at some point I will call them

out I've done it in the past I may do it

in the future but right now I'm being a

little bit a little bit more diplomatic

and a little bit more high level with

this episode

all right so that's the stage that is

being set

now let's talk about some specific

races so let's start with Greenville

right this is a Greenville podcast

Greenville city and and pretty much

everything coming up before the end

of this year pretty much City related

elections so Greenville city has mayor

race and city council races

now

for those of you that know the the

Greenville mayor Knox white he has been

mayor for quite a long time and he's not

had a lot of serious competition but he

does this year

Michelle Shane

who's probably the only person I'm

going to actually mention by name she

is running for Greenville mayor

and she she has a legitimate shot at

beating mayor white

I truly do believe that she has a

well-run campaign she has money she has

supporters she's a Democrat

that's a differentiating a point of

differentiation for her she's a woman

that's a point of differentiation for

for her and she's the new voice at a

time when a lot of people just want

to get the old guard out of there even

if they don't know why

will that be enough I don't know I don't

know if that will be enough for her to

potentially unseat Knox white for

that for the for the Greenville mayor

we'll have to see but it's very

interesting there's not a ton in my

opinion a ton of differentiation

as a matter of fact Michelle

Shane has worked with the mayor in the

past she was I believe on city council

and for quite some time actually and

a lot of the things that Greenville has

done the past 20 years you have both her

fingerprints and his fingerprints on it

so she's going to if if she's going to

win this she's going to really have to

differentiate herself in my opinion more

than just I'm a Democrat and he's not

I'm a woman and he's not and I'm a new

voice and he's not but that one will

be very interesting to watch

I think both candidates are are very

very qualified to to be mayor in terms

of qualifications

there there is no issue there it's

really just more what flavor of leader

do you want to be Greenville mayor I'm

not going to put my weight behind either

of those at either of them at this point

in time Greenville city also has several

elections as well

these are interesting because

I think most people agree that the

city has gone in a very positive

direction for several decades now but

there's still concern with over

development and lack of infrastructure

particularly when it comes to sewer and

this is pretty much the sentiment I

think just about everyone running for

city council will agree with this and so

it's it's an interesting scenario that

we have where people see the City of

Greenville and they're like wow the

city's done a great job

but at the same time there is need

for continued Improvement to the

infrastructure

and so how will that be reflected in

city council

I don't know

but it will be it will be interesting

to watch and to see how all that plays

out in the end Simpsonville let's talk

about Simpsonville for a second they

also have mayor and city council races

and the two main concerns which if you

know Simpsonville at all this does not

come as a surprise to you the city of

Simpsonville the two main concerns are

traffic and storm water those are the I

mean every person I've talked to in the

Simpsonville race those are two of the

top things that they bring up you could

say parking in downtown along with

the traffic as well now I've seen the

storm water issue firsthand there was a

house that I looked at recently that I

was thinking about buying and holy cow

the flooding that that house had from

stormwater I saw photos and video of it

it's insane when we get a big rain this

is just just a house in a normal

subdivision

and when they get a big rain the storm

water comes in and creates a river I'm

telling you a foot Deep River in their

backyard Rushing River it's insane and

of course tons of flooding that they've

had news to say I did not buy that home

and big problem

now unfortunately most people that

are aware of the storm water issue think

it the problem is new developments right

it we're going to blame the new

developments of bringing all this you

know more asphalt and concrete and

causing all these storm water issues but

that's actually Incorrect and and some

of the candidates know understand this

some of them don't but what's really the

fault the the problem with the storm

water issue is the old developments the

old developments didn't have the

stricter codes that they do now they did

things that resulted in there being poor

handling of the storm water

but

there something still needs to be done

about it there are no Simple Solutions

for this and I didn't hear a single I

haven't heard a single candidate offer a

solution I'm just like okay yeah that's

that's something that we can do

that's something simple

generally speaking I think the

sentiment is that they're gonna need

help on a state level they're going to

have to find a way to get funds from the

state level in order to help

Simpsonville with the storm water

problem we'll see that's gonna be that's

gonna be tough but we'll see if they're

able to with regard to traffic also no

Simple Solutions right

so my understanding is the city of

Simpsonville did some kind of a

Department of Transportation dot study

and that

recommendations were made by the dot

as to how to improve traffic and that

they're in the process of implementing

those changes

here in the near future but it's not

going to be enough right the

Simpsonville has

well-known traffic issues and in my

opinion really they need to solve the

parking problem in the city of

Simpsonville before they can really

address the traffic problem parking is a

lot easier to address than traffic and

sometimes if you address parking the

right way that can as a byproduct

address the traffic but if you've ever

been in downtown Simpsonville at a

busy time you know that the traffic the

parking those are absolutely major

issues

Travelers Rest

TR has several city council races and

I don't have a whole lot to say about TR

but I will say this it's definitely

poised through the next we need to keep

the city the same Battleground area

you know people love you know that

cute the cute little TR strip the swamp

rapid Trail all that

and obviously we don't want downtown

TR to be over developed and to look like

this big city that is just not designed

to be but I will say this the city of TR

has seen some of the most extreme price

increases to residential real estate of

anywhere in the upstate and probably I'm

not a commercial realtor but probably

the commercial real estate in the area

has seen insane appreciation as well

and we have to ask is that what people

want do they want housing in the city of

TR to be completely unaffordable because

there's huge demand to be near the Swamp

Rabbit Trail which

has one of its main trailheads right

there in downtown Travelers Rest but

almost no houses in TR near it or I

should say it this way there's almost no

houses in downtown TR that are near the

Swamp Rabbit Trail that aren't either

old or like really small

and so again I can understand people

wanting to keep the small town feel of

TR everyone wants to do that but in

terms of residential development do we

just want prices to keep going up and to

not give people more options to be able

to access that trail to be able to

stimulate that economy do we not want

those local businesses

on Main Street NTR to be able to have

more traffic have more people coming

their way

I don't know all I know is that I

I've struggled for a long time now to

find a good brunch spot that doesn't

just have an outrageous weight in

Greenville between like 10 30 and 11 and

I found one in downtown TR I'm gonna

keep that on the DL to myself but if

you're interested feel free to text me

I'll let you know what restaurant it was

that I that I discovered recently that

does not have a way to get brunch at 10

30 or 11 on Sunday mornings

all right

that's all I'm going to say about TR

last but not least

certainly not least is Pickens and

Easley those races also have mayor

and city council races and these might

be the most interesting out of all of

them nobody thinks that easily or

Pickens is interesting but trust me when

it comes to these elections they take

the cake very interesting so

my understanding and and in full

disclosure I've not attended a uneasily

city council meeting I'm not I'm not in

Easley City doesn't impact me a whole

lot directly but there's a person on

Easley city council my understanding who

has caused a lot of ruckus for her

extremely aggressive anti-development

push when we talk about nimbyism right

we've talked about this in the past that

stands for not in my backyard these are

the people that are like oh yeah we need

more development just not here right if

I'm in Easley I'm saying yeah we need

more development but that needs to be in

TR not in Easley

or if I'm in TR I'm like yeah we need

more development we've got a lot of

people moving here but we don't want

that to be in TR we want that to be in

Easley Easley's got way more land than

we have here in TR that's what nimbyism

people that that understand that there

needs to be development but they don't

want it in their backyard in some

extreme cases they don't understand the

need for development at all those people

just don't understand economics

but easily is probably the biggest

NIMBY Battleground in the upstate a lot

of nimbyism here and a lot of this is

being spearheaded by people that are

heavily involved in local governments

and they've got this website

if you want to check it out easily

express the easily express website is a

place basically

trying to

throw mud

at candidates and people that are in

office and easily who are

pro-development which doesn't even it's

used in a very loose term it's basically

anyone that has ever agreed to any sort

of development at any time in easily is

considered an enemy of easily per easily

express that's my interpretation

and then of course that

website is used then to support or to

endorse people that are anti-development

and talking to people involved in these

elections the nimbys have gotten out of

control right they're taking photos of

City Council meetings and putting

putting them up on on this easily

express website and and disparaging

the City Council Members

blasting these people on on that website

I've heard of some of them following

the council people to their homes to

harass them harassing them out in public

all sorts of chaos they're running

strictly the the candidates that are

running in the easily and there are

several of them that are running on this

NIMBY platform they're running strictly

on anger

and some of them have some good

points right about infrastructure this

is always

the issue right we obviously everyone

knows that with new new with growth with

new developments improvements and new

infrastructure is required so we get

that but everyone in easily

understands that like that's not like a

surprise to anyone

and so essentially these NIMBY

candidates are just running strictly on

on anger and whereas in Greenville

we've seen Council people cave to the

nimbies I get a very different feeling

and easily and this is interesting

this is the first time we've seen

this where talking to the people and

easily it really seems like the nimbies

have overplayed their hand

so

you know

think about it this way right we all

know how there's people in in the

federal government in Senate in the

house etc that

they overplay their hand they just

run on anger they don't cooperate with

anyone and they don't end up making any

friends they don't end up getting

anything done politics is politics you

have to make friends you have to

cooperate you have to work together

that's you have to compromise that's the

only way to get things done well this

group this NIMBY group they don't

they're not willing to compromise they

don't care about making friends they can

they constantly tell people this isn't

personal as they blast things on their

website about these people yeah it's

personal you're blasting things about me

you're following me home that's very

personal and so let's say that you're

currently the mayor of Easley or

currently on Easley city council you're

you're being constantly attacked

verbally and and online by these people

why on Earth would you cooperate with

them why would you try to compromise

with them there's no attempts being made

on their end of compromise so why would

then you try to come towards them and

and compromise what them it's it's

impossible

and there's just no point in even

trying and so really what their strategy

is isn't to make friends and to try to

to make compromises but the these NIMBY

candidates their strategy is to just get

all everyone out of office and to just

wipe everything clean and to get all of

the anti-development people into office

so they can just Stonewall as many

developments as they possibly can put

all these moratoriums into place cause

developers to to not be able to develop

in the city anymore and and and

handle things that way so that is their

approach rather than trying to be

good political actors and to to work

together with people from a wide variety

of perspectives they're just trying to

get all people in into the council that

have one perspective

and if they're successful there I

suspect that they will then take the

county level next and go after Pickens

County

now

I've referenced the Easy Express website

a few times the people being supported

buy easily express they would say

that I am Pro development because just

because I'm a realtor and I just want

there to be an overwhelming number of

homes to sell right that's the only

reason why I would be in favor of

building but that is such a naive way to

think about it like it just it doesn't

even make sense so it drives me crazy I

actually put something recently

attacking the greater Greenville

Association of Realtors on Easley

Express website and a a I could go

through the video and explain how many

naive things were said or simply

misleading things were said there were

several several misleading things on

there

but to think that Realtors are

pro development Pro growth just because

we want there to be more houses to sell

that's that's just not true that's not

how this works I don't work for home

builders I'm not benefiting by the Home

Builders bottom line just because

they're being just because more homes

are being built that doesn't mean that I

will ever sell those homes

easily it's not a huge portion of my

business why would I be that worried

about more homes being sold in easily

just for my business as a realtor it

makes no sense

what I do have

is clients that have wanted to to move

in the Easley City and haven't been able

to because it's too expensive so that's

what I've seen okay

and so

does that affect me

no even that doesn't affect me because I

have a client that that needs to move

if they can't move to easily city

they're just going to move somewhere

else so guess guess who lost out the

city of easily lost out

and my client lost out for me as

a realtor my client's still going to

move I'm still gonna get paid so this

whole idea that oh

Realtors are just Pro development

because they just want more closings it

it just does they don't understand how

real estate Works they don't understand

basic economics generally speaking I'm

not speaking for everyone on that

website I'm just saying generally

speaking people that are have a NIMBY

approach to have a NIMBY worldview

they make these talking points

about Realtors real estate associations

they they really don't understand behind

the scenes what we actually stand for

what we actually believe and why we're

pro development so they put out these

talking points that make sense to their

followers that simply are not true

so the question that I have for them is

what are they doing about housing

affordability and did we squat would be

the answer that I have I don't

see them doing anything for housing

affordability they just want housing

affordability or I shouldn't say they

want housing affordability to go out the roof

but by their actions their actions

are going to cause that to happen

they're going to cause the city of

easily to become so unaffordable that

people are going to have to move out of

that area people's children's are not

going to be able to afford housing in

that area and guess what they'll move

to some other great parts of the upstate

and the City of easily will lose out on

some of its brightest Minds who

simply can't afford to live there to

to start their careers so good good luck

if you're if you're a NIMBY and

easily I fare thee will

so if you're not though if you're a

voter I would recommend if you're in

Easley City or in Pickens County really

do some real research on these

candidates I'm not saying that everyone

that is on that website on easily

express that's supported on there is bad

and I'm not saying that everyone's the

easily express website cause out calls

out as bad is good or worth voting for

I'm not again I'm not naming names I'm

not telling you to vote one way or

another I'm not throwing my support

behind one group or another with one

exception and that is if you're

anti-development

you you need to come to terms with the

fact that you're behind behind the times

generally speaking that's that and again

that's my opinion

so be aware of that when you vote

understand that if the right just the

right or just the wrong people get voted

in they could have a huge huge impact on

your area and easily in Sim Seville in

TR in Greenville

there's also races that I'm not going

to talk about in Malden Fountain Inn and

some other places as well

people not a whole lot of people come

out to vote in these local elections but

they impact you very very directly

they impact you way quicker than

anything on the state or federal level

does they can make decisions just

like that that immediately impact

how what you can do with your house what

you can do with your land what you can

do with your with your office

all sorts of things and so please take

those elections seriously one candidate

that I spoke to and and I'm gonna end

with this they said they only need 75 to

80 votes to win based on the numbers

that they've looked at in the past 75 or

80 votes you know people are complaining

all the time my vote doesn't count if

you show up and vote for a city or a

county election your vote counts you

might end up being two percent of the

vote for that municipality so take

that seriously that is a a major major

thing a major way that you can impact

your government and where you live so I

hope that was helpful for you guys

if you wanted me to throw my support

behind people I'm sorry

not today

maybe in the future I don't know

we'll see but if you have any questions

let me know happy to talk to you guys

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