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Mark Haney: Super excited.

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Mark Haney: Today we are joined by Cam Iwasa.

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Mark Haney: He is a professional athlete, actually a

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Mark Haney: retired professional soccer player.

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Mark Haney: So today we're going to be talking about

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Mark Haney: his career, the principles that he learned

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Mark Haney: in building that successful career, and

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Mark Haney: because it's not easy to achieve the

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Mark Haney: highest level in sports, let alone business.

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Mark Haney: So today is going to be an interesting show

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Mark Haney: because we'll talk a little bit about

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Mark Haney: business, because Cam's also a commercial

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Mark Haney: real estate professional and a professional

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Mark Haney: broadcaster.

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Mark Haney: So we'll get into a little bit of all of

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Mark Haney: that.

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Mark Haney: And if you like today's show, definitely do

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Mark Haney: we are really looking to build our local

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Mark Haney: audience here and really people who get it,

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Mark Haney: who understand the power of

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Mark Haney: entrepreneurship and want to be around,

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Mark Haney: people that know how to win, like Cam.

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Mark Haney: Welcome to show, cam, appreciate you being

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Mark Haney: here.

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Mark Haney: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Cam Iwasa: I'm excited to be here 100%.

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Mark Haney: So now you, you grew up in the Sacramento

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Mark Haney: region and then you became a member of the

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Mark Haney: Sac Republic.

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Mark Haney: Was that like a dream come true?

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Cam Iwasa: Yeah, I grew up like right near Sac State,

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Cam Iwasa: probably five minutes from Sac State.

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Cam Iwasa: It's hard to say it was a dream come true

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Cam Iwasa: because the team didn't exist when I was

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Mark Haney: Oh, okay, yeah, the first year was 2014.

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Cam Iwasa: So I was already in college when the team

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Cam Iwasa: I was in Southern California at the time,

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Cam Iwasa: You know what was going on.

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Cam Iwasa: I had a lot of friends and family that were

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Cam Iwasa: hey, this is professional soccer teams here

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Cam Iwasa: it was like, oh, that's really cool.

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Cam Iwasa: I'd love to just get to a game and check it

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Cam Iwasa: Little did I know I'd end up spending six

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Mark Haney: So like when you went to Jesuit and I know

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Mark Haney: But what was the dream then If there wasn't

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Mark Haney: What was that thing?

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Mark Haney: Was that go playing college?

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Cam Iwasa: Yeah, to be honest, like playing

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Cam Iwasa: And you know, lo and behold, I ended up

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Cam Iwasa: Fortunately, I went to a team that was

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Cam Iwasa: I was like, well, hey, if those guys can do

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Cam Iwasa: And after my senior year, my coach

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Mark Haney: That's great.

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Mark Haney: What do you think about now that you know

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Mark Haney: of you know that, being the amateur they,

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Mark Haney: you know the their likeness and all that

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Mark Haney: Yeah, and it's like you got guys like

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Mark Haney: It's like fairness, it's.

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Cam Iwasa: Yeah, and if you look at things from like a

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Cam Iwasa: is that's, that's your brand, right, like

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Cam Iwasa: you're building a brand, your own business

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Cam Iwasa: these guys have built their brand.

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Cam Iwasa: They're building their business Even though

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Cam Iwasa: I mean, the amount of eyeballs these guys

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Mark Haney: So you to me seems like you kind of got

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Cam Iwasa: You guys just had a baby right, yeah, had

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Cam Iwasa: Well, first kid in general, but our

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Mark Haney: Yeah, so that's exciting.

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Mark Haney: And you're a broadcaster, so you are

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Mark Haney: And but you also have this is it a side gig?

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Mark Haney: Is your real estate server side gig?

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Mark Haney: How do you prioritize all?

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Cam Iwasa: Well, I'd say the broadcasting is a side

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Cam Iwasa: I'm technically, I'm like the big

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Cam Iwasa: You know there's a Rob McAllister, the

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Cam Iwasa: So I've probably done.

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Cam Iwasa: I think I did five or six broadcasts this

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Cam Iwasa: So you know, it's certainly not a full-time

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Cam Iwasa: really fun for me and you know, the more

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Cam Iwasa: But it definitely is.

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Cam Iwasa: I would definitely say that's the side gig.

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Mark Haney: Well, okay, let's talk about your side gig

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Mark Haney: Here You're, there's the play-by-play, and

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Mark Haney: But the play-by-play that can get done by

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Cam Iwasa: Yeah, but if you ask me, that's the part

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Cam Iwasa: that's much, much harder.

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Cam Iwasa: It's cheap, like it.

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Cam Iwasa: So you need the reps way more to do

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Cam Iwasa: It was the same guys I had played against

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Cam Iwasa: You know, this year being, you know,

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Cam Iwasa: There's more guys that I don't know.

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Mark Haney: There's more coaches are changing.

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Cam Iwasa: Coaches are changing, so the systems are

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Cam Iwasa: So it's a little bit more of.

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Cam Iwasa: You know, I had to do a little bit more

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Mark Haney: somebody that acts as a mentor for this

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Mark Haney: my last job, right, playing professional

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Mark Haney: soccer.

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Mark Haney: But real estate, is is great, and I would

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Mark Haney: challenge you then, on your own, on your

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Mark Haney: own, that that comment.

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Mark Haney: I mean there probably is a number in real

473
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Mark Haney: estate that would be as great as playing

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Mark Haney: professional soccer.

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Mark Haney: I don't know, that's, that's kind of an

476
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Mark Haney: interesting thing.

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Mark Haney: What site could you set for, or what could

478
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Mark Haney: any of us set for ourselves in commercial

479
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Mark Haney: real estate or something like that?

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Mark Haney: That would be as cool as playing

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Mark Haney: professional sports.

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Mark Haney: Now, I don't know of one because I I don't

483
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Mark Haney: want to be athlete and I was never that

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Mark Haney: good, but I have to imagine there is a.

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Cam Iwasa: There is, you know there is a way to do

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Cam Iwasa: that.

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Cam Iwasa: Well, part of setting goals for me is a

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Cam Iwasa: making goals that are actually attainable

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Cam Iwasa: and then reassessing goals at a certain

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Cam Iwasa: point.

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Cam Iwasa: So, for instance, you're asking about where

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Cam Iwasa: was you know when?

493
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Cam Iwasa: What was the dream of trying to play for

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Cam Iwasa: the Republic or something when I was in

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Cam Iwasa: high school?

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Cam Iwasa: That wasn't my dream.

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Cam Iwasa: That wasn't a goal of mine to play

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Cam Iwasa: professionally.

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Cam Iwasa: The goal of mine was to get to college and

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Cam Iwasa: be successful in college.

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Cam Iwasa: And then, once you make that happen, you

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Cam Iwasa: reassess OK, I think I can do this.

503
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Cam Iwasa: I can be a starter on one of the best teams

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Cam Iwasa: in college soccer, blah, blah, blah.

505
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Cam Iwasa: You work up and up and next thing you know

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Cam Iwasa: my goal is to be the best player on a

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Cam Iwasa: professional team and break records and

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Cam Iwasa: things like that.

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Cam Iwasa: So, professionally now you know my first

510
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Cam Iwasa: year in the business my goals are not what

511
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Cam Iwasa: the goals of somebody that's been doing it

512
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Cam Iwasa: for a decade are Right.

513
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Cam Iwasa: My goals are to become more and more of an

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Cam Iwasa: expert of what I'm doing, learn the

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Cam Iwasa: industry, learn the ins and outs, get to

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Cam Iwasa: the point where I am comfortable that I can

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Cam Iwasa: walk into a room and hold my own amongst

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Cam Iwasa: people that have been doing it for two

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Cam Iwasa: decades.

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Cam Iwasa: Right, having that sort of the grind of

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Cam Iwasa: just information, feeling like I do and

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Cam Iwasa: like I belong as a professional in this

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Cam Iwasa: industry.

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Cam Iwasa: Ten years from the five years from now.

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Cam Iwasa: Ten years from now, my goals are probably

526
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Cam Iwasa: going to be a lot different.

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Cam Iwasa: It's going to be second nature that I know

528
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Cam Iwasa: what I'm doing and it's going to be hey, my

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Cam Iwasa: goal is to make this much close, this many

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Cam Iwasa: deals, you know, do X amount of numbers and

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Cam Iwasa: do it in a way that I still have plenty of

532
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Cam Iwasa: time to watch my kids grow up, or something

533
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Cam Iwasa: like that.

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Cam Iwasa: You know what I mean.

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Cam Iwasa: So I believe that a big part of being

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Cam Iwasa: extremely successful is reassessing goals

537
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Cam Iwasa: constantly.

538
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Cam Iwasa: You can't just say this is my goal and then

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Cam Iwasa: you hit that goal and you're satisfied, or

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Cam Iwasa: have a goal that's so unattainable from

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Cam Iwasa: today that it feels like too much of an

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Cam Iwasa: uphill climb.

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Cam Iwasa: I think, those many goals in between where

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Cam Iwasa: you're starting and where that kind of

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Cam Iwasa: mountaintop for you is are really, really

546
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Cam Iwasa: important.

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Mark Haney: I agree with that, and one of the things

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Mark Haney: that I've had to overcome in my life is

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Mark Haney: setbacks, especially in entrepreneurship.

550
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Mark Haney: I have to imagine it happens, you know, on

551
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Mark Haney: the soccer field as well.

552
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Mark Haney: You set the goal and it's never quite as

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Mark Haney: easily attained as what I thought it would

554
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Mark Haney: be At least that was for me.

555
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Mark Haney: It's like, oh wow, this is always twice as

556
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Mark Haney: or 10 times as hard as I thought, and so

557
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Mark Haney: these setbacks can be demoralizing for a

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Mark Haney: lot of us and any ideas or thoughts around

559
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Mark Haney: dealing with setbacks and adversity as you

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Mark Haney: are, as you're trying to achieve something

561
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Mark Haney: important in your life.

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Cam Iwasa: Yeah, I think that's where the long term

563
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Cam Iwasa: view does help is when you have a setback,

564
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Cam Iwasa: because I would defy you to find somebody

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Cam Iwasa: who's you know their trajectory.

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Cam Iwasa: In whatever business it is, whether it's

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Cam Iwasa: sports, whether it's real estate, whether

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Cam Iwasa: it's any other sort of entrepreneurship

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Cam Iwasa: where their trajectory is just a straight

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Cam Iwasa: uphill climb, You're not going to find it

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Cam Iwasa: right.

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Cam Iwasa: Nobody, except for maybe the very, very

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Cam Iwasa: lucky, lucky few, are just straight uphill

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Cam Iwasa: and don't have any dips.

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Cam Iwasa: It's always, for me, the thing that I

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Cam Iwasa: relate to the most is, professionally,

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Cam Iwasa: things are going great.

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Cam Iwasa: You feel like you're no one's going to stop

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Cam Iwasa: you, and then you have that injury that

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Cam Iwasa: knocks you out for a month.

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Mark Haney: Yes, yeah, it's amazing how even the most

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Mark Haney: talented players or business people, public

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Mark Haney: speakers, they are still human.

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Mark Haney: So everyone who has that what looks like an

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Mark Haney: easy climb to success because all the

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Mark Haney: natural talent has got some other

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Mark Haney: weaknesses or things that show up in their

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Mark Haney: life that can drag you down, just things

589
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Mark Haney: that are unpredictable.

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Cam Iwasa: And to keep it on the sports topic, and

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Cam Iwasa: something that'll hit close to home for you

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Cam Iwasa: is you talk about the Niners and they're on

593
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Cam Iwasa: fire.

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Cam Iwasa: They look like clearly the best team in the

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Cam Iwasa: league.

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Cam Iwasa: They got Christian McCaffrey and Debo and

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Cam Iwasa: these guys that are the best skill position

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Cam Iwasa: players maybe in the league.

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Cam Iwasa: Mccaffrey certainly is at the top of that

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Cam Iwasa: list and you go into Cleveland and there's

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Cam Iwasa: some bad weather and a couple of guys get

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Cam Iwasa: knocked out of the game and next thing you

603
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Cam Iwasa: know you're missing a field goal at the end

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Cam Iwasa: to ruin your perfect season at the time.

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Cam Iwasa: And like you can either be devastated and

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Cam Iwasa: be like, oh, now it's over, because

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Cam Iwasa: McCaffrey might be out for a couple of

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Cam Iwasa: weeks, and you know we, we just got a

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Cam Iwasa: regroup on the fly and this and that, but

610
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Cam Iwasa: or you could pick yourselves up.

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Cam Iwasa: You can look at what you got.

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Cam Iwasa: You can get guys, can they're?

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Cam Iwasa: Now McCaffrey's goal is get back on the

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Cam Iwasa: field.

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Cam Iwasa: Right, it's not anything more important

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Cam Iwasa: than get back on the field and then you can

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Cam Iwasa: start back from where you took, where you

618
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Cam Iwasa: left off of the ultimate goal of the season.

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Cam Iwasa: But it's creating different goals within

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Cam Iwasa: the goals to get you where you need to be,

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Cam Iwasa: to continue that trajectory.

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Mark Haney: Well, scott and I my business partner over

623
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Mark Haney: here, the guy that helps me with the show,

624
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Mark Haney: among other things he and I are talking

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Mark Haney: Niners all the time because we love the

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Mark Haney: Niners, and so, yeah, cleveland was a tough

627
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Mark Haney: loss.

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Mark Haney: There's still five and one by the time this

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Mark Haney: airs.

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Mark Haney: hopefully there you know seven and one or

631
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Mark Haney: something like that.

632
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Mark Haney: This will probably air in a week or two,

633
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Mark Haney: but it the part of the Niners that have

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Mark Haney: impressed me the most.

635
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Mark Haney: I think this year is how they have.

636
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Mark Haney: They said in advance that Brock Purdy was

637
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Mark Haney: gonna be the number one quarterback.

638
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Mark Haney: Even though he could barely throw he could

639
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Mark Haney: throw every other day during the spring

640
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Mark Haney: they still decided that he they gave him

641
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Mark Haney: the number one spot because of what he did

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Mark Haney: last year.

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Mark Haney: You know, mr Irrelevant drafted last in the

644
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Mark Haney: professional football draft and then does

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Mark Haney: well and they still believed in him, even

646
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Mark Haney: though you know he had the elbow problem.

647
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Mark Haney: I love that about their approach.

648
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Mark Haney: I think a lot of other people were, you

649
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Mark Haney: know, praying for Trey Lance to get more of

650
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Mark Haney: an opportunity here, but I'm pulling for

651
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Mark Haney: the underdog.

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Cam Iwasa: Yeah, I think there's multiple factors

653
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Cam Iwasa: there.

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Cam Iwasa: I think for Purdy it makes such a big

655
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Cam Iwasa: difference having the confidence of the

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Cam Iwasa: team behind you, knowing that not only is

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Cam Iwasa: Trey Lance not gonna be the guy, but we're

658
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Cam Iwasa: actually gonna ship him out of town so that

659
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Cam Iwasa: there's no doubt you are our guy right.

660
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Cam Iwasa: So I think it's a lot easier to perform at

661
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Cam Iwasa: your best when you're not having to look

662
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Cam Iwasa: over your shoulder at all.

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Cam Iwasa: That's A, I think B it says a lot about the

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Cam Iwasa: Niners front office that they can swallow

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Cam Iwasa: their pride a little bit, because I think

666
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Cam Iwasa: there's a lot of people that they spent the

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Cam Iwasa: capital that the Niners spent on getting

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Cam Iwasa: Trey Lance.

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Mark Haney: Yeah, if you're just watching, they gave

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Mark Haney: away a bunch of you know I think three

671
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Mark Haney: first round draft picks.

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Mark Haney: It was something crazy yeah to move up in

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Mark Haney: the draft to draft Trey Lance third, and

674
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Mark Haney: then they ended up.

675
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Mark Haney: He ended up really, he got injured, sadly.

676
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Mark Haney: I think he's got all kinds of talent and

677
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Mark Haney: ability but he got injured.

678
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Mark Haney: And then Brock comes in and wow.

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Cam Iwasa: But yeah, to that point, when you give up

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Cam Iwasa: that kind of draft capital and just in

681
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Cam Iwasa: general you spend that much on a player, a

682
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Cam Iwasa: lot of people are really incentivized to

683
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Cam Iwasa: try to make themselves look good and force

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Cam Iwasa: it to make him be the guy so that you don't

685
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Cam Iwasa: look like, oh we blew it on that pick.

686
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Cam Iwasa: But I think it says a lot about them and

687
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Cam Iwasa: being comfortable with where they're.

688
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Cam Iwasa: At that they are able to move on from him

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Cam Iwasa: and say, hey look, we found a gem Diamond

690
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Cam Iwasa: in the Rough and Purdy and we can go ahead

691
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Cam Iwasa: and cut our losses.

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Cam Iwasa: With Trey Lance.

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Cam Iwasa: I think they got back like a sixth round

694
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Cam Iwasa: pick or something from the Cowboys, right,

695
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Cam Iwasa: and so it says a lot that they were able to

696
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Cam Iwasa: do that and it puts him in the best

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Cam Iwasa: possible position for him to succeed and

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Cam Iwasa: continue to grow his confidence.

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Mark Haney: You know, we see that same type of I think

700
0:23:36,886 --> 0:23:39,890
Mark Haney: of it as like sunk cost bias, where you

701
0:23:40,050 --> 0:23:41,426
Mark Haney: might even be in real estate, where you've

702
0:23:41,446 --> 0:23:43,714
Mark Haney: been trying to run at this one way for a

703
0:23:43,754 --> 0:23:46,945
Mark Haney: while and it used to work at some level and

704
0:23:46,985 --> 0:23:48,891
Mark Haney: you're just, you can't break that

705
0:23:48,971 --> 0:23:52,691
Mark Haney: commitment to it because for what is more

706
0:23:52,732 --> 0:23:54,687
Mark Haney: like a psychological reason or emotional

707
0:23:54,767 --> 0:23:58,436
Mark Haney: reason and really it's time to pivot right,

708
0:23:59,305 --> 0:24:01,853
Mark Haney: it's time, and sometimes you need just

709
0:24:01,913 --> 0:24:03,669
Mark Haney: enough information to make the decision to

710
0:24:03,769 --> 0:24:06,431
Mark Haney: pivot, but yet we tend to sort of hang on

711
0:24:07,033 --> 0:24:10,152
Mark Haney: as humans, to investments that maybe we

712
0:24:10,994 --> 0:24:11,456
Mark Haney: need to dump.

713
0:24:11,705 --> 0:24:13,050
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, once you put a certain amount of time

714
0:24:13,070 --> 0:24:15,611
Cam Iwasa: into something, you want to prove yourself

715
0:24:15,732 --> 0:24:17,471
Cam Iwasa: right, that that time wasn't wasted.

716
0:24:18,428 --> 0:24:20,193
Cam Iwasa: And even if you do pivot away from that

717
0:24:20,293 --> 0:24:22,130
Cam Iwasa: exact thing, it doesn't mean it was a waste

718
0:24:22,170 --> 0:24:23,750
Cam Iwasa: of time because you learned something in

719
0:24:23,770 --> 0:24:24,332
Cam Iwasa: the process.

720
0:24:24,425 --> 0:24:26,746
Cam Iwasa: I think that's the biggest thing, is you

721
0:24:26,766 --> 0:24:27,710
Cam Iwasa: either win or you learn.

722
0:24:27,805 --> 0:24:30,548
Cam Iwasa: That's like another old cliche, like all of

723
0:24:30,609 --> 0:24:31,512
Cam Iwasa: these cliches are.

724
0:24:32,245 --> 0:24:33,451
Cam Iwasa: They're cliches because they're true.

725
0:24:33,745 --> 0:24:36,474
Cam Iwasa: Like largely all of them are very, very

726
0:24:36,534 --> 0:24:36,755
Cam Iwasa: true.

727
0:24:36,845 --> 0:24:39,312
Cam Iwasa: And so the only loss is if you do put time

728
0:24:39,352 --> 0:24:42,129
Cam Iwasa: into something and you realize it's a

729
0:24:42,169 --> 0:24:43,807
Cam Iwasa: mistake and you pivot and then you go and

730
0:24:43,827 --> 0:24:45,707
Cam Iwasa: make that same mistake again and then you

731
0:24:45,727 --> 0:24:46,310
Cam Iwasa: waste your time.

732
0:24:46,705 --> 0:24:48,327
Cam Iwasa: That's when it was a loss, because you're

733
0:24:48,367 --> 0:24:50,625
Cam Iwasa: not figuring out what to do differently in

734
0:24:50,645 --> 0:24:52,192
Cam Iwasa: order to be successful with the next one.

735
0:24:53,167 --> 0:24:55,494
Mark Haney: Yeah, brock Purdy, makes the rest of the

736
0:24:55,534 --> 0:24:56,216
Mark Haney: team better.

737
0:24:56,256 --> 0:24:58,632
Mark Haney: Right, you've got great weapons and you

738
0:24:58,652 --> 0:25:01,331
Mark Haney: mentioned them, and the Niners are loaded

739
0:25:01,371 --> 0:25:03,368
Mark Haney: with that offensively and defensively.

740
0:25:03,488 --> 0:25:06,588
Mark Haney: But thinking about that making other

741
0:25:07,411 --> 0:25:10,407
Mark Haney: members of your team better there are some

742
0:25:10,507 --> 0:25:14,969
Mark Haney: people that just have that knack and I have

743
0:25:14,989 --> 0:25:18,518
Mark Haney: to imagine you saw that in your career as

744
0:25:18,638 --> 0:25:18,919
Mark Haney: well.

745
0:25:19,626 --> 0:25:21,292
Mark Haney: What are kind of the things that we should

746
0:25:21,312 --> 0:25:23,008
Mark Haney: be thinking about, maybe as younger

747
0:25:23,148 --> 0:25:26,186
Mark Haney: athletes or parts of a team that might be

748
0:25:26,246 --> 0:25:28,693
Mark Haney: in business, around making other people

749
0:25:28,954 --> 0:25:32,152
Mark Haney: better and showing some of that

750
0:25:32,233 --> 0:25:33,035
Mark Haney: unselfishness?

751
0:25:33,145 --> 0:25:35,433
Mark Haney: But I mean thoughts around making the rest

752
0:25:35,453 --> 0:25:37,349
Mark Haney: of your team better, because ultimately,

753
0:25:37,429 --> 0:25:40,309
Mark Haney: the goal is to win win the championship or

754
0:25:40,730 --> 0:25:42,635
Mark Haney: build the successful business.

755
0:25:43,605 --> 0:25:45,111
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, the best teams I've ever been a part

756
0:25:45,212 --> 0:25:47,532
Cam Iwasa: of were always greater than the sum of its

757
0:25:47,592 --> 0:25:47,913
Cam Iwasa: parts.

758
0:25:48,665 --> 0:25:49,568
Cam Iwasa: You have a lot of time.

759
0:25:49,869 --> 0:25:52,969
Cam Iwasa: To be a good team in whatever sport or a

760
0:25:53,069 --> 0:25:55,215
Cam Iwasa: good team in whatever industry, you need

761
0:25:55,295 --> 0:25:55,696
Cam Iwasa: talent.

762
0:25:56,166 --> 0:25:58,353
Cam Iwasa: You're not gonna scrape together the bottom

763
0:25:58,373 --> 0:26:00,050
Cam Iwasa: of the barrel and then finish as the best

764
0:26:00,090 --> 0:26:00,612
Cam Iwasa: team in the league.

765
0:26:00,645 --> 0:26:01,489
Cam Iwasa: It's just unrealistic.

766
0:26:01,865 --> 0:26:05,288
Cam Iwasa: So you do need legitimate talent, but to be

767
0:26:05,329 --> 0:26:07,709
Cam Iwasa: a really truly great team, you need that

768
0:26:07,769 --> 0:26:10,346
Cam Iwasa: talent to also be working together in the

769
0:26:10,386 --> 0:26:12,773
Cam Iwasa: type of way that everything just runs

770
0:26:12,854 --> 0:26:13,255
Cam Iwasa: smoothly.

771
0:26:13,425 --> 0:26:15,592
Cam Iwasa: And so if you might have the two best

772
0:26:15,612 --> 0:26:17,207
Cam Iwasa: players in the league, but if they're

773
0:26:17,227 --> 0:26:19,106
Cam Iwasa: clashing and they don't get along and

774
0:26:19,126 --> 0:26:20,347
Cam Iwasa: they're not playing to get especially in a

775
0:26:20,367 --> 0:26:22,249
Cam Iwasa: sport like soccer, where everything is so

776
0:26:22,349 --> 0:26:24,991
Cam Iwasa: fluid, if you have two guys that are great

777
0:26:25,031 --> 0:26:26,590
Cam Iwasa: players that don't get along, it's not

778
0:26:26,610 --> 0:26:27,032
Cam Iwasa: gonna work.

779
0:26:27,385 --> 0:26:29,612
Cam Iwasa: And so you'd be better off having two guys

780
0:26:30,605 --> 0:26:33,028
Cam Iwasa: that are maybe a step below, that truly

781
0:26:33,068 --> 0:26:35,046
Cam Iwasa: have good chemistry and get along, because

782
0:26:35,066 --> 0:26:36,186
Cam Iwasa: that's what's gonna put out the best

783
0:26:36,226 --> 0:26:37,588
Cam Iwasa: product on the field, and not only that,

784
0:26:37,608 --> 0:26:39,309
Cam Iwasa: but it's gonna bring the as you mentioned

785
0:26:39,329 --> 0:26:39,630
Cam Iwasa: with Perti.

786
0:26:39,685 --> 0:26:41,091
Cam Iwasa: It brings the rest of the team along with

787
0:26:41,131 --> 0:26:44,705
Cam Iwasa: them, and I think for any sport, the

788
0:26:44,866 --> 0:26:47,293
Cam Iwasa: biggest thing is when you have your best

789
0:26:47,374 --> 0:26:51,546
Cam Iwasa: player, who is a super unselfish guy that's

790
0:26:51,566 --> 0:26:52,791
Cam Iwasa: willing to sacrifice for the team.

791
0:26:52,865 --> 0:26:53,889
Cam Iwasa: I think about it a lot with.

792
0:26:55,107 --> 0:26:56,558
Cam Iwasa: If you can't tell, I'm a big sports fan.

793
0:26:56,598 --> 0:26:58,670
Mark Haney: I watch you know a lot of yeah well, yeah

794
0:26:58,690 --> 0:26:58,951
Mark Haney: me too.

795
0:26:59,265 --> 0:27:00,811
Cam Iwasa: But I think about it a lot with basketball

796
0:27:00,851 --> 0:27:02,990
Cam Iwasa: in particular and you have certain guys

797
0:27:03,030 --> 0:27:05,411
Cam Iwasa: that, yes, they are great, great players,

798
0:27:05,545 --> 0:27:07,031
Cam Iwasa: but the way that they kind of carry

799
0:27:07,071 --> 0:27:08,529
Cam Iwasa: themselves and go about their business

800
0:27:08,985 --> 0:27:11,113
Cam Iwasa: makes them an even better teammate.

801
0:27:11,265 --> 0:27:12,912
Cam Iwasa: And I think the guy in the last decade

802
0:27:12,945 --> 0:27:14,466
Cam Iwasa: that's really, really shown that is a guy

803
0:27:14,486 --> 0:27:18,009
Cam Iwasa: like Steph Curry who is clearly one of the

804
0:27:18,049 --> 0:27:19,171
Cam Iwasa: best basketball players we've ever seen.

805
0:27:19,191 --> 0:27:20,012
Mark Haney: He's on the Warriors, isn't he?

806
0:27:20,192 --> 0:27:22,096
Mark Haney: I know, are you a Warriors fan?

807
0:27:22,116 --> 0:27:23,117
Mark Haney: No, I'm not Okay, but.

808
0:27:23,358 --> 0:27:26,713
Mark Haney: I die hard, but yeah, that guy's special.

809
0:27:26,805 --> 0:27:28,607
Cam Iwasa: Like you can't deny the fact, and I've

810
0:27:28,627 --> 0:27:30,968
Cam Iwasa: spent my fair share of time hating Steph

811
0:27:30,988 --> 0:27:33,886
Cam Iwasa: Curry because, of the Warriors it's.

812
0:27:34,589 --> 0:27:37,668
Cam Iwasa: We can get into that at another time, but I

813
0:27:37,709 --> 0:27:39,474
Cam Iwasa: can't help but be extremely impressed by

814
0:27:39,494 --> 0:27:40,790
Cam Iwasa: him and the way he's carried himself,

815
0:27:40,945 --> 0:27:43,914
Cam Iwasa: especially with the KD Saga and all this

816
0:27:43,974 --> 0:27:44,235
Cam Iwasa: stuff.

817
0:27:44,565 --> 0:27:46,072
Cam Iwasa: And then bringing in a guy like Chris Paul

818
0:27:46,125 --> 0:27:48,392
Cam Iwasa: who, yes, is at the end of his career

819
0:27:48,573 --> 0:27:50,771
Cam Iwasa: probably, but a guy that he kind of feuded

820
0:27:50,811 --> 0:27:53,066
Cam Iwasa: with 10 years ago or whatever, when those

821
0:27:53,106 --> 0:27:55,474
Cam Iwasa: Clippers Warriors games were pretty heated.

822
0:27:55,865 --> 0:27:58,153
Cam Iwasa: But Steph has just always been doing

823
0:27:58,173 --> 0:27:59,509
Cam Iwasa: whatever is in the best interest of the

824
0:27:59,549 --> 0:28:02,132
Cam Iwasa: team, even if it sacrifices his numbers a

825
0:28:02,172 --> 0:28:02,553
Cam Iwasa: little bit.

826
0:28:02,965 --> 0:28:04,912
Cam Iwasa: And he might've missed out on some all NBA

827
0:28:05,052 --> 0:28:06,889
Cam Iwasa: first teams and things like that because he

828
0:28:06,909 --> 0:28:10,172
Cam Iwasa: was playing next to KD and different things.

829
0:28:10,285 --> 0:28:12,533
Cam Iwasa: But I think for him, ultimately, all he

830
0:28:12,593 --> 0:28:14,029
Cam Iwasa: wanted to do was win and he was truly

831
0:28:14,069 --> 0:28:15,647
Cam Iwasa: willing to sacrifice things in order to do

832
0:28:15,707 --> 0:28:15,828
Cam Iwasa: so.

833
0:28:16,325 --> 0:28:17,892
Cam Iwasa: And it's really really impressive to see

834
0:28:17,932 --> 0:28:19,710
Cam Iwasa: somebody at the highest level, with that

835
0:28:19,770 --> 0:28:21,487
Cam Iwasa: much money on the line, that is willing to

836
0:28:21,648 --> 0:28:23,167
Cam Iwasa: swallow his ego a little bit and say, hey,

837
0:28:23,649 --> 0:28:24,886
Cam Iwasa: this is what's best for us to win a

838
0:28:24,906 --> 0:28:25,408
Cam Iwasa: championship.

839
0:28:26,005 --> 0:28:28,673
Cam Iwasa: And obviously it's shown, as he's got four

840
0:28:28,733 --> 0:28:29,134
Cam Iwasa: rings now.

841
0:28:29,294 --> 0:28:31,846
Mark Haney: Yeah, and the Kings, I mean, as long as

842
0:28:31,866 --> 0:28:33,031
Mark Haney: we're talking a little bit of basketball,

843
0:28:33,051 --> 0:28:33,713
Mark Haney: this is a fun show.

844
0:28:33,925 --> 0:28:35,049
Mark Haney: I haven't really just got it on a talk

845
0:28:35,069 --> 0:28:37,349
Mark Haney: sports, I don't think in a while.

846
0:28:37,925 --> 0:28:39,950
Mark Haney: But the Kings I mean you think about

847
0:28:40,011 --> 0:28:40,452
Mark Haney: leadership.

848
0:28:40,472 --> 0:28:41,374
Mark Haney: Are you building a team?

849
0:28:41,394 --> 0:28:42,317
Mark Haney: You need the right leadership.

850
0:28:42,405 --> 0:28:43,951
Mark Haney: The Kings obviously changed out some of

851
0:28:43,991 --> 0:28:45,789
Mark Haney: their leadership, bringing in new coaching

852
0:28:45,829 --> 0:28:48,866
Mark Haney: and so on, and some of those players they

853
0:28:48,926 --> 0:28:50,271
Mark Haney: have some of those players, I think,

854
0:28:50,471 --> 0:28:51,094
Mark Haney: emerging.

855
0:28:51,185 --> 0:28:53,647
Mark Haney: I think, like the Aaron Fox is, I think, an

856
0:28:54,028 --> 0:28:56,816
Mark Haney: emerging superstar, along with Subbonus,

857
0:28:57,727 --> 0:29:00,536
Mark Haney: and they I think they're on the upswing.

858
0:29:00,947 --> 0:29:02,425
Mark Haney: I guess I'm gonna make a prediction that I

859
0:29:02,445 --> 0:29:04,031
Mark Haney: don't know that they'll win more games next

860
0:29:04,131 --> 0:29:05,566
Mark Haney: year than they won this year, but I think

861
0:29:05,586 --> 0:29:07,247
Mark Haney: they'll at least advance to the next round

862
0:29:07,267 --> 0:29:07,790
Mark Haney: of the playoffs.

863
0:29:08,185 --> 0:29:09,450
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, last year was the most fun I've had

864
0:29:09,490 --> 0:29:12,432
Cam Iwasa: watching basketball in my life, because the

865
0:29:12,472 --> 0:29:13,866
Cam Iwasa: last time the Kings were good, I think I

866
0:29:13,906 --> 0:29:16,770
Cam Iwasa: was in like third grade and so I wasn't

867
0:29:16,790 --> 0:29:18,215
Cam Iwasa: really old enough to appreciate it.

868
0:29:18,325 --> 0:29:19,911
Cam Iwasa: I thought the Kings were just gonna be

869
0:29:19,991 --> 0:29:21,427
Cam Iwasa: always in the playoffs and in the Western

870
0:29:21,447 --> 0:29:22,792
Cam Iwasa: Conference Finals against the Lakers.

871
0:29:22,885 --> 0:29:25,485
Cam Iwasa: That's just what I assumed life was, and

872
0:29:25,546 --> 0:29:28,234
Cam Iwasa: clearly that has not been the case, clearly

873
0:29:28,374 --> 0:29:28,695
Cam Iwasa: not.

874
0:29:28,845 --> 0:29:30,371
Mark Haney: We had a little bit of a drought.

875
0:29:31,025 --> 0:29:32,812
Mark Haney: This is to talk about setbacks, right.

876
0:29:33,325 --> 0:29:35,151
Cam Iwasa: But you know, I think De'Aaron Fox is a

877
0:29:35,212 --> 0:29:37,251
Cam Iwasa: great example of what we just spoke about

878
0:29:37,325 --> 0:29:39,032
Cam Iwasa: as far as sacrificing for the greater good.

879
0:29:39,405 --> 0:29:42,052
Cam Iwasa: This is a guy who was averaging 20 plus

880
0:29:42,113 --> 0:29:45,430
Cam Iwasa: points every year and was a guy that always

881
0:29:45,451 --> 0:29:47,908
Cam Iwasa: was very ball dominant, as since he's been

882
0:29:47,928 --> 0:29:48,992
Cam Iwasa: in the league pretty much.

883
0:29:49,505 --> 0:29:50,991
Cam Iwasa: And then the team goes out and brings in

884
0:29:51,031 --> 0:29:52,989
Cam Iwasa: Subbonus and they say, hey, we actually

885
0:29:53,009 --> 0:29:54,629
Cam Iwasa: want the offense to run through him for the

886
0:29:54,649 --> 0:29:58,014
Cam Iwasa: most part, and Fox not only didn't complain

887
0:29:58,054 --> 0:30:00,071
Cam Iwasa: about it, but seems like he welcomed it

888
0:30:00,111 --> 0:30:03,031
Cam Iwasa: with open arms and then decided to play his

889
0:30:03,131 --> 0:30:04,295
Cam Iwasa: role within that system.

890
0:30:04,945 --> 0:30:06,912
Cam Iwasa: And then obviously, as we saw last year, at

891
0:30:06,932 --> 0:30:08,548
Cam Iwasa: the end of games it's like, okay, now it's

892
0:30:08,569 --> 0:30:09,512
Cam Iwasa: your time to take over.

893
0:30:09,685 --> 0:30:11,853
Cam Iwasa: But he had the best year of his career

894
0:30:12,045 --> 0:30:13,967
Cam Iwasa: playing within a system, sacrificing

895
0:30:14,087 --> 0:30:17,335
Cam Iwasa: largely 75% of the game.

896
0:30:17,556 --> 0:30:19,268
Cam Iwasa: He would sacrifice and defer a little bit

897
0:30:19,288 --> 0:30:21,309
Cam Iwasa: to let Subbonus, the offense run through

898
0:30:21,329 --> 0:30:22,950
Cam Iwasa: him, and then he could take over when it

899
0:30:22,970 --> 0:30:24,589
Cam Iwasa: was time to take over Fox can get to the

900
0:30:24,629 --> 0:30:24,930
Cam Iwasa: bucket.

901
0:30:25,225 --> 0:30:27,073
Mark Haney: I mean almost on anybody.

902
0:30:27,145 --> 0:30:29,486
Cam Iwasa: But that sort of sacrifice in order, again

903
0:30:29,526 --> 0:30:32,445
Cam Iwasa: for the greater good of the team created in

904
0:30:32,485 --> 0:30:35,088
Cam Iwasa: my opinion I'm a little biased the most fun

905
0:30:35,108 --> 0:30:37,770
Cam Iwasa: team to watch in the NBA, and people all

906
0:30:37,830 --> 0:30:39,268
Cam Iwasa: over the nation were saying that, so I

907
0:30:39,288 --> 0:30:40,525
Cam Iwasa: don't feel like that's too much of a bias.

908
0:30:40,525 --> 0:30:41,007
Mark Haney: Yeah, they were.

909
0:30:41,208 --> 0:30:42,766
Mark Haney: I mean running and guiding them, they were.

910
0:30:42,907 --> 0:30:43,530
Mark Haney: They're amazing.

911
0:30:43,625 --> 0:30:45,365
Cam Iwasa: Statistically, they had the best offense in

912
0:30:45,385 --> 0:30:47,146
Cam Iwasa: the history of the league last year, and so

913
0:30:47,247 --> 0:30:49,887
Cam Iwasa: it was truly amazing to watch and just, I

914
0:30:49,927 --> 0:30:51,933
Cam Iwasa: think, for Sacramento fans like myself and

915
0:30:52,295 --> 0:30:54,511
Cam Iwasa: you and everyone else in this city that

916
0:30:54,532 --> 0:30:57,531
Cam Iwasa: were so starved for a good basketball

917
0:30:57,551 --> 0:30:59,225
Cam Iwasa: product to watch night in and night out, it

918
0:30:59,266 --> 0:31:00,932
Cam Iwasa: was really, really funny.

919
0:31:01,186 --> 0:31:02,792
Cam Iwasa: It was appointment television for me.

920
0:31:03,125 --> 0:31:06,515
Mark Haney: Yeah, it's interesting how we in Sacramento

921
0:31:06,925 --> 0:31:09,975
Mark Haney: rally around our beloved basketball team,

922
0:31:10,125 --> 0:31:11,565
Mark Haney: our beloved soccer team, right, the

923
0:31:11,586 --> 0:31:12,550
Mark Haney: Republic and the Kings.

924
0:31:12,905 --> 0:31:15,713
Mark Haney: We really have this and even like Uriah's

925
0:31:16,254 --> 0:31:17,807
Mark Haney: team, alpha Male, we are.

926
0:31:18,148 --> 0:31:23,127
Mark Haney: You know, in MMA we root for the local and

927
0:31:23,368 --> 0:31:24,653
Mark Haney: that's one of the things that we're doing

928
0:31:24,713 --> 0:31:24,853
Mark Haney: here.

929
0:31:25,025 --> 0:31:26,366
Mark Haney: We haven't really talked about this, but

930
0:31:26,406 --> 0:31:27,712
Mark Haney: we're working on building something called

931
0:31:27,725 --> 0:31:29,652
Mark Haney: the Backyard Advantage, the most connected

932
0:31:29,692 --> 0:31:31,611
Mark Haney: community in the world for local

933
0:31:31,711 --> 0:31:32,193
Mark Haney: entrepreneurs.

934
0:31:32,305 --> 0:31:36,577
Mark Haney: So we have invested into a lot of companies

935
0:31:36,705 --> 0:31:38,271
Mark Haney: through the growth factory and through the

936
0:31:38,311 --> 0:31:39,748
Mark Haney: other organizations I'm involved with.

937
0:31:40,205 --> 0:31:41,992
Mark Haney: But what we're doing is we're rallying

938
0:31:42,125 --> 0:31:43,872
Mark Haney: almost like our own fan base, our own

939
0:31:44,012 --> 0:31:46,633
Mark Haney: people that live it along with us.

940
0:31:46,745 --> 0:31:48,611
Mark Haney: That's the Backyard Advantage is this tribe

941
0:31:48,671 --> 0:31:50,828
Mark Haney: of savages that get it.

942
0:31:51,129 --> 0:31:53,145
Mark Haney: They love Sacramento, but they also

943
0:31:53,185 --> 0:31:54,767
Mark Haney: understand the power of entrepreneurship.

944
0:31:55,445 --> 0:31:58,214
Mark Haney: And we're rallying almost like the people

945
0:31:58,255 --> 0:32:00,112
Mark Haney: that are ringing the cowbell at a King's

946
0:32:00,152 --> 0:32:02,299
Mark Haney: game, rooting for the local entrepreneur,

947
0:32:02,410 --> 0:32:05,132
Mark Haney: the local small business people, and it's

948
0:32:05,213 --> 0:32:07,319
Mark Haney: actually coming together in a really cool

949
0:32:07,379 --> 0:32:07,580
Mark Haney: way.

950
0:32:07,931 --> 0:32:09,737
Mark Haney: And I often think about the Sacramento

951
0:32:09,817 --> 0:32:13,554
Mark Haney: Kings and especially in their heyday, when

952
0:32:13,614 --> 0:32:15,953
Mark Haney: I had nosebleed seats, and then when they

953
0:32:15,994 --> 0:32:18,172
Mark Haney: were good, when you were a kid and now

954
0:32:18,212 --> 0:32:20,297
Mark Haney: coming back, the fan support is

955
0:32:20,398 --> 0:32:21,280
Mark Haney: unbelievable here.

956
0:32:22,130 --> 0:32:24,151
Cam Iwasa: When I was walking into the studio I walked

957
0:32:24,192 --> 0:32:25,637
Cam Iwasa: past the thing and I had a little tagline

958
0:32:25,730 --> 0:32:27,910
Cam Iwasa: that said unapologetically local and I

959
0:32:28,091 --> 0:32:29,938
Cam Iwasa: commented to the lady that was leading me.

960
0:32:30,131 --> 0:32:32,636
Cam Iwasa: I said I really like that and exactly what

961
0:32:32,676 --> 0:32:33,118
Cam Iwasa: you just said.

962
0:32:33,210 --> 0:32:34,710
Cam Iwasa: I think from a business standpoint that's

963
0:32:34,851 --> 0:32:37,872
Cam Iwasa: extremely smart because Sacramento is so

964
0:32:37,972 --> 0:32:39,818
Cam Iwasa: proud of what is theirs.

965
0:32:40,910 --> 0:32:42,476
Cam Iwasa: I think you see it like you said, with the

966
0:32:42,496 --> 0:32:44,334
Cam Iwasa: Kings, with the Republic, having things

967
0:32:44,374 --> 0:32:48,015
Cam Iwasa: that truly belong to Sacramento I think is

968
0:32:48,095 --> 0:32:51,195
Cam Iwasa: so, so important the giants and the A's and

969
0:32:51,215 --> 0:32:52,620
Cam Iwasa: the Niners and the Raiders.

970
0:32:53,090 --> 0:32:54,295
Cam Iwasa: There's a lot of people that are really

971
0:32:54,335 --> 0:32:55,755
Cam Iwasa: passionate about all of those teams.

972
0:32:56,110 --> 0:32:57,877
Cam Iwasa: But I think the love that you see for the

973
0:32:57,937 --> 0:32:59,835
Cam Iwasa: Kings and for the Republic is on a

974
0:32:59,875 --> 0:33:01,572
Cam Iwasa: completely different level because it is

975
0:33:01,673 --> 0:33:03,379
Cam Iwasa: truly Sacramento's own.

976
0:33:03,510 --> 0:33:05,137
Cam Iwasa: And I think the same thing with business.

977
0:33:05,250 --> 0:33:08,199
Cam Iwasa: I think people are really really quick to

978
0:33:08,239 --> 0:33:11,197
Cam Iwasa: support Sacramento locally started and

979
0:33:11,257 --> 0:33:14,396
Cam Iwasa: grown businesses because of it really has a

980
0:33:14,476 --> 0:33:16,971
Cam Iwasa: small town feel for a city that is just

981
0:33:17,072 --> 0:33:19,820
Cam Iwasa: exploding and getting so much bigger every

982
0:33:19,880 --> 0:33:20,020
Cam Iwasa: year.

983
0:33:20,490 --> 0:33:24,091
Cam Iwasa: So again, unapologetically local, I think

984
0:33:24,131 --> 0:33:26,038
Cam Iwasa: was incredibly sharp and I really really

985
0:33:26,078 --> 0:33:26,359
Cam Iwasa: liked it.

986
0:33:26,510 --> 0:33:28,171
Mark Haney: Well, I appreciate you saying that, because

987
0:33:28,251 --> 0:33:30,279
Mark Haney: now we're starting to get some traction.

988
0:33:30,370 --> 0:33:32,117
Mark Haney: When I first started the show, I used to

989
0:33:32,177 --> 0:33:33,935
Mark Haney: say I'm on a mission to ignite the

990
0:33:33,995 --> 0:33:36,153
Mark Haney: entrepreneur revolution right here in the

991
0:33:36,213 --> 0:33:36,675
Mark Haney: hometown.

992
0:33:36,735 --> 0:33:39,651
Mark Haney: I love because I grew up here as well, and

993
0:33:40,514 --> 0:33:44,992
Mark Haney: people that are in the media industry think

994
0:33:45,132 --> 0:33:49,984
Mark Haney: that if you start a podcast or a show of

995
0:33:50,044 --> 0:33:51,754
Mark Haney: some sort that you should be thinking

996
0:33:51,814 --> 0:33:53,213
Mark Haney: national, you should be thinking about

997
0:33:53,253 --> 0:33:55,916
Mark Haney: boiling the ocean, and since I grew up here,

998
0:33:55,956 --> 0:33:58,156
Mark Haney: I really I personally care about my

999
0:33:58,196 --> 0:34:00,334
Mark Haney: hometown, maybe more I care about

1000
0:34:00,374 --> 0:34:01,730
Mark Haney: entrepreneurs all over the world, but

1001
0:34:02,393 --> 0:34:04,379
Mark Haney: really I think I can have more of an impact

1002
0:34:04,550 --> 0:34:07,272
Mark Haney: if I play in my smaller sandbox and I

1003
0:34:07,332 --> 0:34:11,462
Mark Haney: really love the idea of knowing the people

1004
0:34:11,670 --> 0:34:13,890
Mark Haney: that I'm investing into and that I'm that

1005
0:34:13,930 --> 0:34:15,891
Mark Haney: are come on my show and so on, versus just

1006
0:34:16,313 --> 0:34:17,818
Mark Haney: creating a group of acquaintances.

1007
0:34:18,170 --> 0:34:20,418
Mark Haney: And so I think we have that with Sacramento

1008
0:34:20,438 --> 0:34:20,539
Mark Haney: too.

1009
0:34:20,610 --> 0:34:22,437
Mark Haney: With Sacramento, we feel like we know the

1010
0:34:22,477 --> 0:34:24,116
Mark Haney: people on the Republic if we're a Republic

1011
0:34:24,136 --> 0:34:25,971
Mark Haney: fan, and same with the Kings, we actually

1012
0:34:26,012 --> 0:34:28,753
Mark Haney: feel like we know them and you actually do

1013
0:34:28,833 --> 0:34:31,951
Mark Haney: know them, which has gotta be again, I know

1014
0:34:31,991 --> 0:34:33,616
Mark Haney: the entrepreneurs, you know the athletes.

1015
0:34:34,830 --> 0:34:36,617
Cam Iwasa: Well, and something that was always really

1016
0:34:36,657 --> 0:34:38,555
Cam Iwasa: really important when I was playing with

1017
0:34:38,575 --> 0:34:40,334
Cam Iwasa: the Republic and I know that Kings are

1018
0:34:40,394 --> 0:34:42,073
Cam Iwasa: really, really it's really important to

1019
0:34:42,093 --> 0:34:43,875
Cam Iwasa: them too is all the community outreach

1020
0:34:43,915 --> 0:34:44,116
Cam Iwasa: stuff.

1021
0:34:44,250 --> 0:34:47,039
Cam Iwasa: The community supports our team so much

1022
0:34:47,490 --> 0:34:50,699
Cam Iwasa: that giving back is it would be really just

1023
0:34:50,820 --> 0:34:52,576
Cam Iwasa: stupid not to you know what I mean.

1024
0:34:52,690 --> 0:34:55,519
Cam Iwasa: I mean people are so, so excited anytime

1025
0:34:55,610 --> 0:34:56,754
Cam Iwasa: that any of the players can show their

1026
0:34:56,795 --> 0:34:58,854
Cam Iwasa: faces in public and it takes such a little

1027
0:34:58,954 --> 0:35:01,875
Cam Iwasa: effort on our part to get people excited

1028
0:35:01,916 --> 0:35:04,916
Cam Iwasa: and do something good that really unites

1029
0:35:04,976 --> 0:35:07,817
Cam Iwasa: people that it would truly be a missed

1030
0:35:07,857 --> 0:35:09,535
Cam Iwasa: opportunity if they weren't doing it.

1031
0:35:12,130 --> 0:35:14,758
Cam Iwasa: There's plenty of people I worked with at

1032
0:35:14,778 --> 0:35:15,260
Cam Iwasa: the Republic.

1033
0:35:15,390 --> 0:35:17,377
Cam Iwasa: Kevin Burdick and Scott Moke were kind of

1034
0:35:17,437 --> 0:35:18,651
Cam Iwasa: in head of our Scott.

1035
0:35:18,691 --> 0:35:20,197
Mark Haney: Moke, who is the PA, scott's awesome.

1036
0:35:20,631 --> 0:35:22,412
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, he works with the Republic as one of

1037
0:35:22,432 --> 0:35:23,677
Cam Iwasa: the heads of the community outreach and

1038
0:35:23,697 --> 0:35:25,617
Cam Iwasa: stuff and so working with those guys for me

1039
0:35:25,750 --> 0:35:28,074
Cam Iwasa: was absolutely a blast and they set up so

1040
0:35:28,094 --> 0:35:29,298
Cam Iwasa: many different things to get out in the

1041
0:35:29,338 --> 0:35:33,060
Cam Iwasa: community and be as unapologetically local

1042
0:35:33,210 --> 0:35:34,776
Cam Iwasa: and just make sure that we are always

1043
0:35:34,917 --> 0:35:36,575
Cam Iwasa: ingrained in the community in doing things,

1044
0:35:36,690 --> 0:35:37,935
Cam Iwasa: and I know that Kings do the same sort of

1045
0:35:37,976 --> 0:35:39,997
Cam Iwasa: thing and I think it makes a huge impact.

1046
0:35:40,190 --> 0:35:42,150
Mark Haney: Yeah, we end up working with the Kings on

1047
0:35:42,170 --> 0:35:43,917
Mark Haney: something called Kings Capitalized.

1048
0:35:44,430 --> 0:35:45,575
Mark Haney: Think about giving back.

1049
0:35:45,870 --> 0:35:48,699
Mark Haney: They have built the most innovative arena,

1050
0:35:49,150 --> 0:35:51,454
Mark Haney: I think, on earth, but they continue to

1051
0:35:51,534 --> 0:35:53,975
Mark Haney: want to innovate, so they get involved in

1052
0:35:54,356 --> 0:35:56,150
Mark Haney: our world, our startup world, our

1053
0:35:56,211 --> 0:36:01,155
Mark Haney: innovative culture that we're building, and

1054
0:36:01,175 --> 0:36:02,398
Mark Haney: they're leading something called Kings

1055
0:36:02,459 --> 0:36:02,980
Mark Haney: Capitalized.

1056
0:36:03,050 --> 0:36:06,091
Mark Haney: We help sort of administer that effort, but

1057
0:36:06,673 --> 0:36:08,110
Mark Haney: they're innovating in food, they're

1058
0:36:08,131 --> 0:36:12,154
Mark Haney: innovating in arena experiences and they

1059
0:36:12,414 --> 0:36:13,639
Mark Haney: continue to want to invest.

1060
0:36:13,770 --> 0:36:15,671
Mark Haney: They're giving back to the community while

1061
0:36:16,092 --> 0:36:20,035
Mark Haney: simultaneously learning how to provide a

1062
0:36:20,075 --> 0:36:21,238
Mark Haney: better fan experience.

1063
0:36:21,930 --> 0:36:23,356
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, the first time I went to Golden One

1064
0:36:23,470 --> 0:36:24,651
Cam Iwasa: and they were like, yeah, by the way, just

1065
0:36:24,791 --> 0:36:26,752
Cam Iwasa: open the app in order from any of these

1066
0:36:26,792 --> 0:36:30,752
Cam Iwasa: 1500 concessions that we have and then you

1067
0:36:31,234 --> 0:36:32,852
Cam Iwasa: can either get it delivered or go pick it

1068
0:36:32,932 --> 0:36:34,077
Cam Iwasa: up, and it's easy peasy.

1069
0:36:34,170 --> 0:36:35,375
Cam Iwasa: And I was like, wow, this is pretty

1070
0:36:35,415 --> 0:36:37,295
Cam Iwasa: incredible, I mean, especially when you put

1071
0:36:37,315 --> 0:36:38,900
Cam Iwasa: the side-by-side to what Arco was.

1072
0:36:39,030 --> 0:36:40,716
Mark Haney: I mean, it was a completely different

1073
0:36:40,756 --> 0:36:41,238
Mark Haney: experience.

1074
0:36:42,393 --> 0:36:43,237
Cam Iwasa: It's yeah.

1075
0:36:43,730 --> 0:36:45,977
Mark Haney: You probably never went to Old Arco, did

1076
0:36:46,017 --> 0:36:46,117
Mark Haney: you?

1077
0:36:46,558 --> 0:36:47,341
Mark Haney: Was that before your time?

1078
0:36:47,691 --> 0:36:49,738
Mark Haney: There's Old Arco, and then there's Arco,

1079
0:36:50,510 --> 0:36:51,776
Mark Haney: and then now there's Golden One.

1080
0:36:51,890 --> 0:36:53,035
Mark Haney: I guess I've never went to Old Arco.

1081
0:36:53,310 --> 0:36:55,898
Cam Iwasa: No, I only went to what turned into.

1082
0:36:55,938 --> 0:36:56,179
Mark Haney: Sleep.

1083
0:36:56,279 --> 0:36:58,555
Cam Iwasa: Train and Power Balance and whatever

1084
0:36:59,277 --> 0:37:00,340
Cam Iwasa: various names it had.

1085
0:37:01,090 --> 0:37:03,057
Mark Haney: Old Arco wasn't as good as New Arco either.

1086
0:37:03,650 --> 0:37:04,474
Mark Haney: I can only imagine.

1087
0:37:05,350 --> 0:37:07,879
Cam Iwasa: But yeah, I mean in the new stadium.

1088
0:37:07,970 --> 0:37:10,118
Cam Iwasa: It's all part of, like I said, sacramento.

1089
0:37:10,210 --> 0:37:12,570
Cam Iwasa: It still has the people in Sacramento, I

1090
0:37:12,590 --> 0:37:14,316
Cam Iwasa: think, still have very much of a small town

1091
0:37:14,357 --> 0:37:17,458
Cam Iwasa: vibe, but the city itself is far from it at

1092
0:37:17,498 --> 0:37:20,076
Cam Iwasa: this point and the downtown area just on

1093
0:37:20,117 --> 0:37:20,478
Cam Iwasa: its own.

1094
0:37:21,030 --> 0:37:22,837
Cam Iwasa: From when I was a kid to what it is now,

1095
0:37:23,010 --> 0:37:27,097
Cam Iwasa: it's completely been revolutionized and

1096
0:37:27,177 --> 0:37:29,073
Cam Iwasa: it's night and day really what the downtown

1097
0:37:29,093 --> 0:37:29,495
Cam Iwasa: scene is.

1098
0:37:29,930 --> 0:37:30,652
Mark Haney: Yeah, okay.

1099
0:37:30,672 --> 0:37:33,250
Mark Haney: Well, let's use that as our pivot point to

1100
0:37:33,290 --> 0:37:36,118
Mark Haney: talk about real estate and the Sacramento

1101
0:37:36,318 --> 0:37:36,840
Mark Haney: economy.

1102
0:37:37,550 --> 0:37:40,213
Mark Haney: I know you're new to the game but we are to

1103
0:37:40,734 --> 0:37:42,239
Mark Haney: the real estate business.

1104
0:37:42,890 --> 0:37:44,757
Mark Haney: But you've seen the transformation in

1105
0:37:44,777 --> 0:37:45,158
Mark Haney: downtown.

1106
0:37:45,330 --> 0:37:47,978
Mark Haney: I think when Golden One went in made a big

1107
0:37:48,058 --> 0:37:48,459
Mark Haney: change.

1108
0:37:49,310 --> 0:37:52,454
Mark Haney: Sadly, when COVID hit, we experienced more

1109
0:37:52,635 --> 0:37:56,495
Mark Haney: challenges in the downtown and with being

1110
0:37:56,555 --> 0:37:58,640
Mark Haney: forced to close our restaurants and

1111
0:37:58,660 --> 0:37:59,442
Mark Haney: different businesses.

1112
0:37:59,650 --> 0:38:02,218
Mark Haney: And then now, with the people wanting to

1113
0:38:02,278 --> 0:38:04,932
Mark Haney: work remote and working remote it can be.

1114
0:38:05,534 --> 0:38:08,854
Mark Haney: It can feel a little quieter down there at

1115
0:38:08,874 --> 0:38:10,419
Mark Haney: a lot of times, unless there's a Kings game

1116
0:38:10,459 --> 0:38:12,536
Mark Haney: going on, it can feel a little quieter in

1117
0:38:12,556 --> 0:38:13,972
Mark Haney: the downtown area because people are

1118
0:38:14,534 --> 0:38:15,377
Mark Haney: working remotely.

1119
0:38:15,690 --> 0:38:18,477
Mark Haney: But what are you seeing in terms of

1120
0:38:18,678 --> 0:38:21,052
Mark Haney: commercial real estate in?

1121
0:38:21,092 --> 0:38:23,491
Mark Haney: Let's break it up by, maybe geography, but

1122
0:38:23,591 --> 0:38:25,177
Mark Haney: also by different sectors.

1123
0:38:25,730 --> 0:38:30,290
Mark Haney: We got office, industrial, multi-family, I

1124
0:38:30,310 --> 0:38:31,736
Mark Haney: suppose, all in the commercial realm.

1125
0:38:32,590 --> 0:38:34,696
Mark Haney: But let's break it down in, maybe the heart

1126
0:38:34,736 --> 0:38:35,479
Mark Haney: of Sacramento.

1127
0:38:36,651 --> 0:38:38,771
Mark Haney: What are you seeing in those areas in the

1128
0:38:38,791 --> 0:38:39,594
Mark Haney: heart of Sacramento?

1129
0:38:40,130 --> 0:38:41,797
Cam Iwasa: Well, I think Sacramento's unique

1130
0:38:42,010 --> 0:38:44,297
Cam Iwasa: especially if you compare it to like San

1131
0:38:44,337 --> 0:38:46,092
Cam Iwasa: Francisco or something like that, because

1132
0:38:46,112 --> 0:38:47,853
Cam Iwasa: of the capital and all of the government

1133
0:38:47,894 --> 0:38:48,596
Cam Iwasa: buildings that are there.

1134
0:38:48,990 --> 0:38:50,430
Cam Iwasa: Now, whether or not the government is

1135
0:38:50,490 --> 0:38:52,211
Cam Iwasa: actually gonna have their employees come

1136
0:38:52,231 --> 0:38:54,097
Cam Iwasa: back to work in person is a whole other

1137
0:38:54,218 --> 0:38:54,458
Cam Iwasa: issue.

1138
0:38:55,091 --> 0:38:57,772
Cam Iwasa: I would bet on them eventually at least

1139
0:38:57,792 --> 0:38:59,714
Cam Iwasa: having to go in maybe three days a week or

1140
0:38:59,734 --> 0:39:00,296
Cam Iwasa: something like that.

1141
0:39:00,670 --> 0:39:02,016
Cam Iwasa: So I think there's always gonna be a need

1142
0:39:02,110 --> 0:39:03,095
Cam Iwasa: for all of that office space.

1143
0:39:03,190 --> 0:39:05,737
Cam Iwasa: Right now, as you said, it seems really

1144
0:39:05,877 --> 0:39:08,874
Cam Iwasa: barren at times, depending on the time of

1145
0:39:08,914 --> 0:39:11,314
Cam Iwasa: year especially, but I think eventually

1146
0:39:11,354 --> 0:39:13,151
Cam Iwasa: that's gonna start coming back because

1147
0:39:14,896 --> 0:39:16,120
Cam Iwasa: ultimately I think people are more

1148
0:39:16,160 --> 0:39:17,374
Cam Iwasa: productive if they're in an office.

1149
0:39:17,790 --> 0:39:18,675
Cam Iwasa: I know I certainly am.

1150
0:39:18,850 --> 0:39:23,416
Mark Haney: So on office right now is there more

1151
0:39:23,537 --> 0:39:24,199
Mark Haney: opportunity?

1152
0:39:24,310 --> 0:39:26,478
Mark Haney: Because if we're depressed at some level

1153
0:39:26,610 --> 0:39:28,717
Mark Haney: because not just in Sacramento, the heart

1154
0:39:28,737 --> 0:39:32,257
Mark Haney: of Sacramento office is probably weaker

1155
0:39:32,738 --> 0:39:35,373
Mark Haney: across the entire region and for sure in

1156
0:39:35,413 --> 0:39:39,110
Mark Haney: San Francisco and across the globe, I

1157
0:39:39,130 --> 0:39:41,050
Mark Haney: suppose, because everybody got the idea to

1158
0:39:41,090 --> 0:39:43,158
Mark Haney: work remotely and so office has suffered.

1159
0:39:43,230 --> 0:39:45,779
Mark Haney: But does that mean it's an opportunity?

1160
0:39:46,272 --> 0:39:47,136
Mark Haney: And why Sacramento?

1161
0:39:47,210 --> 0:39:50,691
Mark Haney: Is Sacramento a good opportunity if you're

1162
0:39:50,711 --> 0:39:52,417
Mark Haney: a real estate investor now?

1163
0:39:52,950 --> 0:39:54,616
Cam Iwasa: I think offices certainly have been the

1164
0:39:54,656 --> 0:39:58,118
Cam Iwasa: most depressed since the pandemic, for

1165
0:39:58,138 --> 0:39:58,900
Cam Iwasa: exactly that point.

1166
0:39:58,970 --> 0:40:01,840
Cam Iwasa: A lot of people realize people are almost

1167
0:40:01,930 --> 0:40:03,491
Cam Iwasa: as productive working at home and then you

1168
0:40:03,512 --> 0:40:04,871
Cam Iwasa: can cut the overhead cost of having the

1169
0:40:04,951 --> 0:40:06,536
Cam Iwasa: office, especially for bigger companies.

1170
0:40:07,990 --> 0:40:09,396
Cam Iwasa: But I think it just depends on how you look

1171
0:40:09,496 --> 0:40:09,677
Cam Iwasa: at it.

1172
0:40:09,830 --> 0:40:12,559
Cam Iwasa: I mean, if an investor is willing to maybe

1173
0:40:12,659 --> 0:40:14,294
Cam Iwasa: sit on it for a couple of years before

1174
0:40:14,395 --> 0:40:16,012
Cam Iwasa: things start to come back, I think it could

1175
0:40:16,032 --> 0:40:16,775
Cam Iwasa: be a good investment.

1176
0:40:17,270 --> 0:40:19,618
Cam Iwasa: But the reality is most people are looking

1177
0:40:19,638 --> 0:40:20,532
Cam Iwasa: for something that's gonna hit.

1178
0:40:20,572 --> 0:40:21,014
Cam Iwasa: Right now.

1179
0:40:21,470 --> 0:40:23,437
Cam Iwasa: I don't think office is going to be that.

1180
0:40:23,870 --> 0:40:26,078
Cam Iwasa: But you could also invest in an office

1181
0:40:26,098 --> 0:40:28,556
Cam Iwasa: building and repurpose it in different ways

1182
0:40:28,636 --> 0:40:31,975
Cam Iwasa: to create, maybe turn an office building

1183
0:40:32,015 --> 0:40:33,620
Cam Iwasa: into more housing or something.

1184
0:40:33,710 --> 0:40:35,471
Cam Iwasa: I know there's certain investors that are

1185
0:40:35,491 --> 0:40:36,575
Cam Iwasa: looking to do things like that.

1186
0:40:37,810 --> 0:40:40,312
Cam Iwasa: It just really depends on, I guess, what

1187
0:40:40,352 --> 0:40:42,118
Cam Iwasa: the ultimate vision is for an investor.

1188
0:40:43,570 --> 0:40:46,750
Cam Iwasa: But real estate in general in Sacramento is

1189
0:40:47,432 --> 0:40:50,380
Cam Iwasa: actually pretty hot because of how many

1190
0:40:50,460 --> 0:40:53,457
Cam Iwasa: people are leaving the Bay Area and coming

1191
0:40:53,498 --> 0:40:53,959
Cam Iwasa: this way.

1192
0:40:55,394 --> 0:40:58,331
Cam Iwasa: So I know residential real estate there's

1193
0:40:58,532 --> 0:40:59,797
Cam Iwasa: just not enough.

1194
0:41:01,970 --> 0:41:04,719
Cam Iwasa: There's not enough product for people to

1195
0:41:04,779 --> 0:41:05,040
Cam Iwasa: sell.

1196
0:41:05,110 --> 0:41:06,295
Cam Iwasa: I think there's a lot more people in the

1197
0:41:06,335 --> 0:41:07,834
Cam Iwasa: Sacramento area that are looking to buy

1198
0:41:07,894 --> 0:41:09,354
Cam Iwasa: homes and there are people looking to sell

1199
0:41:09,375 --> 0:41:11,955
Cam Iwasa: homes at the moment and for that reason

1200
0:41:12,376 --> 0:41:14,021
Cam Iwasa: it's created the spike.

1201
0:41:14,150 --> 0:41:15,656
Cam Iwasa: And so when you add on what the interest

1202
0:41:15,696 --> 0:41:18,618
Cam Iwasa: rates are, on top of the high prices for

1203
0:41:18,658 --> 0:41:20,456
Cam Iwasa: houses, it's not very affordable for a lot

1204
0:41:20,476 --> 0:41:21,835
Cam Iwasa: of people, especially younger people,

1205
0:41:22,030 --> 0:41:23,917
Cam Iwasa: people in my generation that are maybe

1206
0:41:24,057 --> 0:41:26,470
Cam Iwasa: looking to buy their first home the

1207
0:41:26,490 --> 0:41:28,237
Cam Iwasa: affordability is pretty tough right now.

1208
0:41:28,470 --> 0:41:29,896
Mark Haney: It's gotten a lot more difficult.

1209
0:41:29,970 --> 0:41:32,056
Mark Haney: What used to feel it's still more

1210
0:41:32,076 --> 0:41:33,872
Mark Haney: affordable than the Bay Area, but you come

1211
0:41:33,892 --> 0:41:35,438
Mark Haney: to Sacramento for something more affordable

1212
0:41:35,510 --> 0:41:38,380
Mark Haney: but with interest rates where they're at

1213
0:41:39,132 --> 0:41:40,917
Mark Haney: it's less affordable than it was a year or

1214
0:41:40,958 --> 0:41:41,840
Mark Haney: two, three ago.

1215
0:41:42,110 --> 0:41:45,152
Mark Haney: And so, yeah, we're noticing that, and I

1216
0:41:45,172 --> 0:41:46,891
Mark Haney: think that the higher interest rates are

1217
0:41:47,452 --> 0:41:50,231
Mark Haney: keeping people from maybe speculating on

1218
0:41:50,331 --> 0:41:52,138
Mark Haney: building as many homes as well.

1219
0:41:52,430 --> 0:41:53,937
Mark Haney: My daughter's in real estate.

1220
0:41:54,010 --> 0:41:56,036
Mark Haney: She has a real estate brokerage and

1221
0:41:56,758 --> 0:41:58,833
Mark Haney: residential and there's still just not

1222
0:41:58,873 --> 0:42:01,411
Mark Haney: enough product, as you mentioned, because

1223
0:42:01,451 --> 0:42:02,791
Mark Haney: people don't wanna sell their home because

1224
0:42:02,811 --> 0:42:04,337
Mark Haney: they're sitting on a 3% interest rate.

1225
0:42:04,410 --> 0:42:05,053
Mark Haney: Why would I sell?

1226
0:42:05,530 --> 0:42:07,996
Mark Haney: So they're hanging on, so it's not turning

1227
0:42:08,156 --> 0:42:08,337
Mark Haney: over.

1228
0:42:10,155 --> 0:42:11,700
Mark Haney: And so there's a supply and demand issue

1229
0:42:11,740 --> 0:42:11,840
Mark Haney: too.

1230
0:42:11,950 --> 0:42:13,517
Mark Haney: You still have people that wanna buy

1231
0:42:13,670 --> 0:42:15,818
Mark Haney: because maybe they're a first time home

1232
0:42:15,838 --> 0:42:17,235
Mark Haney: buyer or maybe they're an investor.

1233
0:42:17,330 --> 0:42:18,876
Mark Haney: There's still some of those people out

1234
0:42:18,896 --> 0:42:19,037
Mark Haney: there.

1235
0:42:19,190 --> 0:42:22,280
Mark Haney: But getting a loan is like my pay.

1236
0:42:22,590 --> 0:42:23,854
Mark Haney: I can't sell my house and get a loan.

1237
0:42:23,970 --> 0:42:26,061
Mark Haney: I mean the payment doesn't, the math

1238
0:42:26,102 --> 0:42:26,684
Mark Haney: doesn't work.

1239
0:42:27,480 --> 0:42:28,926
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, it just puts a lot of people in a

1240
0:42:28,946 --> 0:42:30,464
Cam Iwasa: tough spot and, like I said, especially

1241
0:42:30,965 --> 0:42:33,141
Cam Iwasa: people around my age I'm 30 right now and

1242
0:42:33,181 --> 0:42:35,761
Cam Iwasa: so people that are kind of in their mid to

1243
0:42:35,801 --> 0:42:38,625
Cam Iwasa: late 20s, early 30s, that again maybe

1244
0:42:38,645 --> 0:42:39,822
Cam Iwasa: you're getting married and maybe you want

1245
0:42:39,842 --> 0:42:41,825
Cam Iwasa: to start a family and they want to buy that

1246
0:42:41,885 --> 0:42:44,646
Cam Iwasa: house, to kind of have the picture of what

1247
0:42:44,666 --> 0:42:46,821
Cam Iwasa: the American dream is right Start a family

1248
0:42:46,841 --> 0:42:48,982
Cam Iwasa: with a house and start your new life and it

1249
0:42:49,022 --> 0:42:51,190
Cam Iwasa: just financially is really really hard.

1250
0:42:51,300 --> 0:42:53,226
Cam Iwasa: I've seen a lot of things where they kind

1251
0:42:53,247 --> 0:42:55,545
Cam Iwasa: of compare what first time home buyers are

1252
0:42:55,585 --> 0:42:57,204
Cam Iwasa: dealing with compared to like what my

1253
0:42:57,244 --> 0:43:00,706
Cam Iwasa: parents' generation had and kind of the

1254
0:43:00,886 --> 0:43:03,181
Cam Iwasa: difference of what people made then versus

1255
0:43:03,221 --> 0:43:05,127
Cam Iwasa: what people make now and what the housing

1256
0:43:05,569 --> 0:43:08,608
Cam Iwasa: is, and it's just it's kind of just

1257
0:43:09,089 --> 0:43:11,465
Cam Iwasa: unreasonable to expect somebody in their

1258
0:43:11,986 --> 0:43:13,802
Cam Iwasa: mid to late 20s, early 30s to be able to

1259
0:43:13,842 --> 0:43:17,546
Cam Iwasa: afford that unless they've had some help

1260
0:43:17,586 --> 0:43:18,208
Cam Iwasa: along the way.

1261
0:43:18,460 --> 0:43:19,766
Cam Iwasa: It's really really difficult.

1262
0:43:20,040 --> 0:43:21,305
Mark Haney: Yeah, and here we are sitting in an

1263
0:43:21,366 --> 0:43:24,206
Mark Haney: environment where we have inflation

1264
0:43:25,309 --> 0:43:28,236
Mark Haney: continuing to press on us.

1265
0:43:30,206 --> 0:43:32,082
Mark Haney: And where do you want to invest if you know

1266
0:43:32,303 --> 0:43:34,362
Mark Haney: things are going to go up in value or go up

1267
0:43:34,402 --> 0:43:34,925
Mark Haney: in price?

1268
0:43:35,500 --> 0:43:37,881
Mark Haney: You want to be probably thinking and this

1269
0:43:37,941 --> 0:43:40,343
Mark Haney: is not investment advice, but just me

1270
0:43:40,423 --> 0:43:44,032
Mark Haney: thinking about me is owning real assets,

1271
0:43:44,140 --> 0:43:46,988
Mark Haney: things that are going to go up in value,

1272
0:43:47,148 --> 0:43:49,926
Mark Haney: like real estate it's so it still can be a

1273
0:43:50,026 --> 0:43:51,864
Mark Haney: great investment, but it's just harder to

1274
0:43:51,904 --> 0:43:52,346
Mark Haney: get into.

1275
0:43:52,840 --> 0:43:54,667
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, and that's one of the things that we

1276
0:43:54,707 --> 0:43:57,287
Cam Iwasa: push is kind of creating the right types of

1277
0:43:57,347 --> 0:43:57,848
Cam Iwasa: investments.

1278
0:43:58,640 --> 0:44:00,928
Cam Iwasa: We have a lot of the people that we reach

1279
0:44:00,988 --> 0:44:02,464
Cam Iwasa: out to or maybe somebody that's sitting on

1280
0:44:02,504 --> 0:44:04,885
Cam Iwasa: a plot of land and right now development in

1281
0:44:04,925 --> 0:44:07,305
Cam Iwasa: California has gotten so expensive with the

1282
0:44:07,346 --> 0:44:10,446
Cam Iwasa: cost of permits and just the length of that

1283
0:44:10,526 --> 0:44:12,090
Cam Iwasa: process and things like that.

1284
0:44:12,882 --> 0:44:14,207
Cam Iwasa: If you're sitting on a plot of land,

1285
0:44:14,820 --> 0:44:16,925
Cam Iwasa: developing that is going to cost you just

1286
0:44:16,965 --> 0:44:20,633
Cam Iwasa: as much as it's going to cost you so much,

1287
0:44:20,740 --> 0:44:22,125
Cam Iwasa: it's going to take you so long to make back

1288
0:44:22,146 --> 0:44:24,346
Cam Iwasa: that investment that it might not be worth

1289
0:44:24,386 --> 0:44:24,768
Cam Iwasa: your time.

1290
0:44:24,840 --> 0:44:26,319
Cam Iwasa: So a lot of it is trying to talk to people

1291
0:44:26,339 --> 0:44:29,429
Cam Iwasa: like hey, if you want to sell this plot of

1292
0:44:29,489 --> 0:44:31,987
Cam Iwasa: land and we can try to get you into maybe a

1293
0:44:32,047 --> 0:44:33,723
Cam Iwasa: retail center for an investment you can

1294
0:44:33,763 --> 0:44:35,561
Cam Iwasa: start making real money back on your

1295
0:44:35,601 --> 0:44:36,564
Cam Iwasa: investment right now.

1296
0:44:37,760 --> 0:44:39,326
Cam Iwasa: Those sorts of things are sorts of

1297
0:44:39,366 --> 0:44:41,807
Cam Iwasa: strategies that we try to preach to our

1298
0:44:41,827 --> 0:44:43,285
Cam Iwasa: clients and people that we're reaching out

1299
0:44:43,325 --> 0:44:45,848
Cam Iwasa: to, or again with people that are maybe

1300
0:44:45,928 --> 0:44:47,606
Cam Iwasa: investors in residential real estate.

1301
0:44:47,680 --> 0:44:49,740
Cam Iwasa: Maybe you've got four or five homes that

1302
0:44:49,760 --> 0:44:52,766
Cam Iwasa: you have as rental homes and you're paying

1303
0:44:52,806 --> 0:44:54,542
Cam Iwasa: for the property management and you got

1304
0:44:54,582 --> 0:44:56,264
Cam Iwasa: this and that and all these different

1305
0:44:56,304 --> 0:44:57,147
Cam Iwasa: things that can go wrong.

1306
0:44:57,340 --> 0:44:59,621
Cam Iwasa: Somebody, you get one bad tenant in and all

1307
0:44:59,641 --> 0:45:01,066
Cam Iwasa: of a sudden you got a nightmare in your

1308
0:45:01,086 --> 0:45:02,029
Cam Iwasa: hands that you don't want to deal with.

1309
0:45:02,140 --> 0:45:03,805
Cam Iwasa: So, preaching to people hey, let's sell

1310
0:45:03,845 --> 0:45:07,286
Cam Iwasa: those homes, work those into a 1031 to get

1311
0:45:07,346 --> 0:45:09,064
Cam Iwasa: into again something like a triple net

1312
0:45:09,104 --> 0:45:12,147
Cam Iwasa: investment, and because retail centers are

1313
0:45:12,167 --> 0:45:14,404
Cam Iwasa: still hot right, I mean because of the

1314
0:45:14,485 --> 0:45:15,762
Cam Iwasa: sheer amount of people that are coming into

1315
0:45:15,802 --> 0:45:18,144
Cam Iwasa: Sacramento the retail side of things is

1316
0:45:18,205 --> 0:45:19,107
Cam Iwasa: still very, very strong.

1317
0:45:19,128 --> 0:45:19,910
Mark Haney: It's interesting to me.

1318
0:45:20,020 --> 0:45:21,365
Mark Haney: So office is soft.

1319
0:45:21,987 --> 0:45:25,107
Mark Haney: Retail's hot, even though we've all changed

1320
0:45:25,167 --> 0:45:28,025
Mark Haney: our buying habits to buy online.

1321
0:45:28,045 --> 0:45:29,830
Mark Haney: We don't buy from Amazon, what have you?

1322
0:45:30,300 --> 0:45:34,952
Mark Haney: Yet if you have a location that can

1323
0:45:35,012 --> 0:45:40,063
Mark Haney: generate traffic, then it's hot, and so I

1324
0:45:40,104 --> 0:45:41,529
Mark Haney: didn't realize how hot it was.

1325
0:45:41,720 --> 0:45:43,861
Cam Iwasa: Well, retail in the sense of like maybe not

1326
0:45:43,882 --> 0:45:45,628
Cam Iwasa: necessarily things that you can get on

1327
0:45:45,708 --> 0:45:47,666
Cam Iwasa: Amazon, but if you have, like, a barber

1328
0:45:47,686 --> 0:45:49,665
Cam Iwasa: shop, or if you have things that people

1329
0:45:49,746 --> 0:45:52,685
Cam Iwasa: need to go out of the house to do, or maybe

1330
0:45:52,745 --> 0:45:56,747
Cam Iwasa: it's just a restaurant or something like

1331
0:45:57,790 --> 0:46:00,504
Cam Iwasa: Crumble Cookies is across the street, those

1332
0:46:00,544 --> 0:46:01,888
Cam Iwasa: are things that people will leave their

1333
0:46:01,908 --> 0:46:02,370
Cam Iwasa: house for.

1334
0:46:02,520 --> 0:46:05,088
Cam Iwasa: And so if you can try to get in with good

1335
0:46:05,128 --> 0:46:07,044
Cam Iwasa: tenants and stuff, I mean it's a really

1336
0:46:07,085 --> 0:46:10,308
Cam Iwasa: good investment and, again, it's mostly

1337
0:46:10,388 --> 0:46:11,963
Cam Iwasa: non-hassle as long as you're vetting your

1338
0:46:12,004 --> 0:46:13,268
Cam Iwasa: tenants and making sure it's not someone

1339
0:46:13,300 --> 0:46:14,565
Cam Iwasa: that's gonna be in there going crazy.

1340
0:46:15,040 --> 0:46:17,048
Mark Haney: Well, I've seen some of the larger retail,

1341
0:46:17,561 --> 0:46:19,407
Mark Haney: or maybe it's a little bit of the upscale

1342
0:46:19,507 --> 0:46:22,926
Mark Haney: retail, trying to create an atmosphere

1343
0:46:22,987 --> 0:46:24,912
Mark Haney: where there are events.

1344
0:46:25,080 --> 0:46:26,225
Mark Haney: It's sort of event driven.

1345
0:46:26,460 --> 0:46:27,946
Mark Haney: I'm thinking of, like the fountains in

1346
0:46:28,006 --> 0:46:30,285
Mark Haney: Roseville or the Galleria Mall, their

1347
0:46:30,325 --> 0:46:33,525
Mark Haney: destinations, that you don't necessarily

1348
0:46:33,625 --> 0:46:35,771
Mark Haney: just go there to do your shopping.

1349
0:46:35,860 --> 0:46:38,408
Mark Haney: You might go there to be part of this

1350
0:46:38,669 --> 0:46:40,003
Mark Haney: experience, just go hang out at the

1351
0:46:40,043 --> 0:46:40,385
Mark Haney: fountains.

1352
0:46:40,500 --> 0:46:41,703
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, they might have live music on a

1353
0:46:41,723 --> 0:46:42,619
Cam Iwasa: Friday night or something like that.

1354
0:46:42,680 --> 0:46:44,887
Mark Haney: So I feel like I've seen some of that

1355
0:46:44,968 --> 0:46:47,265
Mark Haney: happening in some of these more upscale

1356
0:46:47,667 --> 0:46:48,249
Mark Haney: shopping areas.

1357
0:46:48,560 --> 0:46:51,441
Mark Haney: Do we see that happening in sort of what's

1358
0:46:51,461 --> 0:46:52,606
Mark Haney: called the strip mall thing?

1359
0:46:52,720 --> 0:46:56,951
Mark Haney: Is, how are they attracting those, the

1360
0:46:56,991 --> 0:46:57,352
Mark Haney: traffic?

1361
0:46:57,880 --> 0:46:58,845
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, not necessarily.

1362
0:46:59,642 --> 0:47:01,920
Cam Iwasa: I think the best investments are just if

1363
0:47:01,940 --> 0:47:06,086
Cam Iwasa: you're on a high traffic area or if you're

1364
0:47:06,106 --> 0:47:08,921
Cam Iwasa: near a big neighborhood or something people

1365
0:47:08,941 --> 0:47:11,220
Cam Iwasa: are gonna need to go out and do things, and

1366
0:47:11,240 --> 0:47:12,941
Cam Iwasa: so if you're near a neighborhood you've got

1367
0:47:13,904 --> 0:47:16,601
Cam Iwasa: however many thousand people live three

1368
0:47:16,621 --> 0:47:18,046
Cam Iwasa: blocks from where you're located.

1369
0:47:18,520 --> 0:47:19,925
Cam Iwasa: You're gonna drive plenty of traffic to

1370
0:47:19,965 --> 0:47:20,467
Cam Iwasa: that space.

1371
0:47:21,320 --> 0:47:24,181
Cam Iwasa: But that's part of the valuation of what

1372
0:47:24,221 --> 0:47:26,222
Cam Iwasa: these different strip centers are, and a

1373
0:47:26,262 --> 0:47:27,827
Cam Iwasa: lot of it depends if someone's willing to

1374
0:47:27,867 --> 0:47:31,062
Cam Iwasa: spend five million on a strip center versus

1375
0:47:31,563 --> 0:47:33,048
Cam Iwasa: 1.2 million on a strip center.

1376
0:47:33,700 --> 0:47:35,105
Cam Iwasa: You kind of get what you pay for at a

1377
0:47:35,145 --> 0:47:35,707
Cam Iwasa: certain point.

1378
0:47:37,460 --> 0:47:39,166
Mark Haney: What about multifamily and industrial?

1379
0:47:39,900 --> 0:47:41,787
Mark Haney: I would assume multifamily is still pretty

1380
0:47:41,828 --> 0:47:43,364
Mark Haney: hot because you still have the shortage of

1381
0:47:44,207 --> 0:47:46,264
Mark Haney: places to live and people wanna live here.

1382
0:47:46,880 --> 0:47:48,367
Mark Haney: Is that hotter than industrial?

1383
0:47:48,460 --> 0:47:50,126
Mark Haney: Or which are you seeing more activity?

1384
0:47:50,227 --> 0:47:50,287
Cam Iwasa: on.

1385
0:47:50,800 --> 0:47:53,088
Cam Iwasa: I would say the multifamily, from what I've

1386
0:47:53,128 --> 0:47:56,740
Cam Iwasa: seen, is mostly big investment groups that

1387
0:47:56,780 --> 0:47:59,730
Cam Iwasa: are putting in the big multifamily centers

1388
0:47:59,820 --> 0:48:02,861
Cam Iwasa: Like Folsom has continuously been a lot of

1389
0:48:02,901 --> 0:48:04,247
Cam Iwasa: development with multifamily.

1390
0:48:04,440 --> 0:48:05,780
Cam Iwasa: You could see them up on the hills, all

1391
0:48:05,800 --> 0:48:06,940
Cam Iwasa: those apartment buildings there, when

1392
0:48:06,960 --> 0:48:07,944
Cam Iwasa: you're driving down 50.

1393
0:48:09,080 --> 0:48:11,168
Cam Iwasa: So that sort of thing is pretty hot.

1394
0:48:11,260 --> 0:48:13,822
Cam Iwasa: But I think that's more of like the bigger

1395
0:48:13,882 --> 0:48:15,247
Cam Iwasa: investment groups that are doing that.

1396
0:48:15,820 --> 0:48:19,190
Cam Iwasa: Industrial is continuing to be pretty hot

1397
0:48:19,230 --> 0:48:19,611
Cam Iwasa: as well.

1398
0:48:19,740 --> 0:48:22,820
Cam Iwasa: I mean there's a lot of businesses that

1399
0:48:22,880 --> 0:48:26,101
Cam Iwasa: never slowed down during the pandemic and a

1400
0:48:26,141 --> 0:48:28,108
Cam Iwasa: lot of those businesses needed industrial

1401
0:48:28,148 --> 0:48:29,283
Cam Iwasa: space to continue going.

1402
0:48:29,900 --> 0:48:32,463
Mark Haney: Like warehousing type space ship stuff all

1403
0:48:32,483 --> 0:48:33,046
Mark Haney: over the world.

1404
0:48:34,560 --> 0:48:35,243
Mark Haney: Very interesting.

1405
0:48:35,740 --> 0:48:36,604
Mark Haney: So do you have a?

1406
0:48:37,880 --> 0:48:40,489
Mark Haney: If you pulled out the crystal ball for us?

1407
0:48:40,600 --> 0:48:40,781
Mark Haney: Maybe?

1408
0:48:40,801 --> 0:48:43,605
Mark Haney: I know you're only one year in, but maybe

1409
0:48:43,745 --> 0:48:46,164
Mark Haney: you mentioned Paul Frank is the guy that

1410
0:48:46,204 --> 0:48:46,946
Mark Haney: you work with.

1411
0:48:47,800 --> 0:48:48,986
Mark Haney: He's been doing this a long time.

1412
0:48:49,100 --> 0:48:50,905
Mark Haney: What's the crystal ball from?

1413
0:48:51,206 --> 0:48:53,825
Mark Haney: Your firm kind of saying about Sacramento

1414
0:48:54,146 --> 0:48:55,803
Mark Haney: and the trajectory, because we're still

1415
0:48:55,864 --> 0:48:57,763
Mark Haney: growing in Sacramento whereas other cities

1416
0:48:57,803 --> 0:49:00,606
Mark Haney: around California seem to be declining in

1417
0:49:00,666 --> 0:49:04,429
Mark Haney: population, sacramento is growing a little

1418
0:49:04,449 --> 0:49:08,390
Mark Haney: bit and significantly more than other areas.

1419
0:49:09,040 --> 0:49:10,761
Cam Iwasa: Yeah, the conversations that I've had with

1420
0:49:11,082 --> 0:49:13,249
Cam Iwasa: people that I really trust Paul's one of

1421
0:49:13,269 --> 0:49:16,088
Cam Iwasa: them, one of my partners I work with, john

1422
0:49:16,128 --> 0:49:18,124
Cam Iwasa: Bias, has also been really, really good to

1423
0:49:18,164 --> 0:49:18,244
Cam Iwasa: me.

1424
0:49:19,820 --> 0:49:22,024
Cam Iwasa: They basically said tough year for me to

1425
0:49:22,064 --> 0:49:24,466
Cam Iwasa: have my first year as a real estate agent,

1426
0:49:24,640 --> 0:49:26,702
Cam Iwasa: just given the current market with the high

1427
0:49:27,123 --> 0:49:27,986
Cam Iwasa: interest rates and stuff.

1428
0:49:28,800 --> 0:49:31,021
Cam Iwasa: But the other side of it is, if I can

1429
0:49:31,041 --> 0:49:33,723
Cam Iwasa: survive this year, it's just gonna get

1430
0:49:33,944 --> 0:49:36,766
Cam Iwasa: better and better, because I think this is

1431
0:49:36,846 --> 0:49:39,725
Cam Iwasa: probably gonna be, at least in the short

1432
0:49:39,785 --> 0:49:42,346
Cam Iwasa: term future, probably one of the hardest

1433
0:49:42,406 --> 0:49:42,727
Cam Iwasa: years.

1434
0:49:43,220 --> 0:49:45,320
Cam Iwasa: But from everyone I've talked to, your

1435
0:49:45,381 --> 0:49:46,701
Cam Iwasa: first year in the industry you're gonna

1436
0:49:46,721 --> 0:49:48,760
Cam Iwasa: have to really grind it out regardless, and

1437
0:49:48,821 --> 0:49:51,321
Cam Iwasa: so I might as well grind it out and then

1438
0:49:51,763 --> 0:49:54,384
Cam Iwasa: hopefully in theory it gets a lot easier

1439
0:49:54,424 --> 0:49:55,985
Cam Iwasa: for me and I think, wow, after that first

1440
0:49:56,025 --> 0:49:57,265
Cam Iwasa: year things really work great.

1441
0:49:57,500 --> 0:49:59,287
Cam Iwasa: But we'll see how it goes.

1442
0:49:59,520 --> 0:50:00,864
Mark Haney: You're in real estate.

1443
0:50:01,667 --> 0:50:03,603
Mark Haney: Business generally, though, tends to be

1444
0:50:03,663 --> 0:50:05,884
Mark Haney: about relationships, and I've seen that in

1445
0:50:05,924 --> 0:50:07,443
Mark Haney: commercial real estate, residential real

1446
0:50:07,463 --> 0:50:09,325
Mark Haney: estate and even the stuff I do around

1447
0:50:09,426 --> 0:50:11,264
Mark Haney: entrepreneurship tends to be about real

1448
0:50:11,304 --> 0:50:13,125
Mark Haney: estates or, excuse me, relationships.

1449
0:50:13,620 --> 0:50:18,581
Mark Haney: So that's, I think, a built in, it's called

1450
0:50:18,621 --> 0:50:20,745
Mark Haney: Advantage for you, because you've obviously

1451
0:50:20,765 --> 0:50:22,182
Mark Haney: got great people skills, but you've lived

1452
0:50:22,202 --> 0:50:24,966
Mark Haney: here your whole life and with your side

1453
0:50:25,027 --> 0:50:28,587
Mark Haney: gigs, you've got plenty of avenues into

1454
0:50:29,509 --> 0:50:31,062
Mark Haney: creating great relationships with people

1455
0:50:31,082 --> 0:50:32,286
Mark Haney: with a lot of influence.

1456
0:50:32,920 --> 0:50:34,321
Mark Haney: One of the people that I look up to that we

1457
0:50:34,341 --> 0:50:36,688
Mark Haney: were talking about earlier is Kevin Nagle,

1458
0:50:37,661 --> 0:50:40,729
Mark Haney: and the kind of way that he's helped

1459
0:50:40,789 --> 0:50:44,108
Mark Haney: inspire business people to achieve more.

1460
0:50:45,363 --> 0:50:48,302
Mark Haney: Are there people that you look up to now as

1461
0:50:48,322 --> 0:50:50,909
Mark Haney: you're entering this new career for

1462
0:50:50,929 --> 0:50:51,290
Mark Haney: yourself?

1463
0:50:52,704 --> 0:50:53,688
Mark Haney: Is there people that you're like?

1464
0:50:53,860 --> 0:50:57,208
Mark Haney: Okay, that's kind of who I might aspire to

1465
0:50:58,251 --> 0:51:00,726
Mark Haney: understand better and maybe even emulate at

1466
0:51:00,766 --> 0:51:01,147
Mark Haney: some level.

1467
0:51:01,800 --> 0:51:02,162
Cam Iwasa: Definitely.

1468
0:51:02,880 --> 0:51:05,469
Cam Iwasa: You mentioned Kevin, owner of the Republic,

1469
0:51:05,600 --> 0:51:06,780
Cam Iwasa: someone that I've been fortunate enough to

1470
0:51:06,800 --> 0:51:10,310
Cam Iwasa: have a relationship with for the past seven,

1471
0:51:10,370 --> 0:51:11,081
Cam Iwasa: eight years or so.

1472
0:51:12,161 --> 0:51:14,221
Cam Iwasa: He's been really, really good to me since I

1473
0:51:14,281 --> 0:51:16,744
Cam Iwasa: retired from the team and has been someone

1474
0:51:16,764 --> 0:51:18,945
Cam Iwasa: that I can lean on and reach out to for

1475
0:51:18,985 --> 0:51:20,985
Cam Iwasa: advice and just to pick his brain here and

1476
0:51:21,005 --> 0:51:21,206
Cam Iwasa: there.

1477
0:51:22,980 --> 0:51:25,308
Cam Iwasa: You haven't done any business with him.

1478
0:51:27,000 --> 0:51:29,524
Cam Iwasa: Maybe sometime in the future there will be

1479
0:51:29,544 --> 0:51:31,565
Cam Iwasa: a time and a place where that will be a

1480
0:51:31,625 --> 0:51:35,450
Cam Iwasa: thing, but as of now it's just been a

1481
0:51:35,550 --> 0:51:38,207
Cam Iwasa: friendship and somebody that I do look up

1482
0:51:38,248 --> 0:51:42,271
Cam Iwasa: to and really trust and value his opinion

1483
0:51:42,560 --> 0:51:45,348
Cam Iwasa: on various things regarding all kinds of

1484
0:51:45,388 --> 0:51:45,990
Cam Iwasa: different business.

1485
0:51:47,240 --> 0:51:48,385
Cam Iwasa: So that's definitely one.

1486
0:51:49,520 --> 0:51:52,449
Cam Iwasa: You mentioned Paul Frank, who I work with

1487
0:51:52,509 --> 0:51:54,825
Cam Iwasa: and work for, but is also someone that has

1488
0:51:54,865 --> 0:51:56,401
Cam Iwasa: been incredibly successful as an

1489
0:51:56,461 --> 0:51:58,708
Cam Iwasa: entrepreneur, built himself up in this

1490
0:51:58,809 --> 0:52:01,426
Cam Iwasa: business, but he's got his hand in all

1491
0:52:01,466 --> 0:52:02,749
Cam Iwasa: kinds of different investments and

1492
0:52:02,769 --> 0:52:04,984
Cam Iwasa: different businesses and is someone that

1493
0:52:05,024 --> 0:52:07,883
Cam Iwasa: I'm just trying to soak up like a sponge

1494
0:52:07,923 --> 0:52:10,044
Cam Iwasa: everything he's doing, because he has been

1495
0:52:10,084 --> 0:52:11,790
Cam Iwasa: an extremely successful person as well.

1496
0:52:11,940 --> 0:52:16,151
Cam Iwasa: So, and the fortunate thing is, like you

1497
0:52:16,211 --> 0:52:18,320
Cam Iwasa: said, it's all about relationships and

1498
0:52:18,762 --> 0:52:20,548
Cam Iwasa: going to different networking events and

1499
0:52:20,568 --> 0:52:22,244
Cam Iwasa: things like that, and so all the time I'm

1500
0:52:22,264 --> 0:52:24,103
Cam Iwasa: meeting different people that are really

1501
0:52:24,143 --> 0:52:26,302
Cam Iwasa: successful in this industry or people in

1502
0:52:26,342 --> 0:52:27,788
Cam Iwasa: different industries that are successful,

1503
0:52:28,783 --> 0:52:30,760
Cam Iwasa: that I think I can pull different parts and

1504
0:52:30,840 --> 0:52:32,326
Cam Iwasa: different pieces of wisdom from all these

1505
0:52:32,366 --> 0:52:34,905
Cam Iwasa: different people and if I can successfully

1506
0:52:35,467 --> 0:52:38,725
Cam Iwasa: just get 1% from all these different people

1507
0:52:38,766 --> 0:52:40,385
Cam Iwasa: I meet, I think in the long run it's gonna

1508
0:52:40,425 --> 0:52:42,621
Cam Iwasa: be I'll look back and be like, wow, I have

1509
0:52:43,002 --> 0:52:45,302
Cam Iwasa: an incredible wealth of knowledge, that I

1510
0:52:45,343 --> 0:52:47,242
Cam Iwasa: took this piece from Mark Haney and I took

1511
0:52:47,262 --> 0:52:51,347
Cam Iwasa: this piece from that person and it's just

1512
0:52:51,427 --> 0:52:53,201
Cam Iwasa: being fortunate to be in a position to have

1513
0:52:53,261 --> 0:52:55,363
Cam Iwasa: these sorts of conversations and just get

1514
0:52:55,403 --> 0:52:57,864
Cam Iwasa: to know different people and hopefully

1515
0:52:57,924 --> 0:52:59,710
Cam Iwasa: continue those relationships in the future

1516
0:53:00,382 --> 0:53:01,165
Cam Iwasa: and continue to grow.

1517
0:53:01,860 --> 0:53:03,105
Mark Haney: Okay, so I'm thinking this would probably

1518
0:53:03,125 --> 0:53:04,602
Mark Haney: be my final question, unless you want me to

1519
0:53:04,662 --> 0:53:07,787
Mark Haney: ask you anything else, but you have a new

1520
0:53:07,828 --> 0:53:10,968
Mark Haney: baby and people are beginning to look to

1521
0:53:11,009 --> 0:53:13,387
Mark Haney: you maybe not beginning, people are also

1522
0:53:13,427 --> 0:53:16,244
Mark Haney: looking to you with that wisdom your

1523
0:53:16,264 --> 0:53:19,360
Mark Haney: children for sure will look to you and

1524
0:53:19,681 --> 0:53:22,721
Mark Haney: there's a lot of people that are not where

1525
0:53:23,001 --> 0:53:25,468
Mark Haney: you are today and maybe, just maybe, some

1526
0:53:25,548 --> 0:53:31,050
Mark Haney: closing thoughts about how you expect to

1527
0:53:31,070 --> 0:53:35,425
Mark Haney: maybe coach your coach, meaning mentor and

1528
0:53:35,525 --> 0:53:40,183
Mark Haney: parent your children, child, but maybe like

1529
0:53:40,263 --> 0:53:44,364
Mark Haney: advice for the up and comer, that on how to

1530
0:53:44,404 --> 0:53:46,870
Mark Haney: achieve and how to really win in life.

1531
0:53:47,540 --> 0:53:48,881
Cam Iwasa: Well, I think a big thing for me is not

1532
0:53:48,901 --> 0:53:50,286
Cam Iwasa: being too proud to ask questions,

1533
0:53:51,120 --> 0:53:52,606
Cam Iwasa: especially this past year.

1534
0:53:53,060 --> 0:53:54,987
Cam Iwasa: Again, this has been brand new to me to

1535
0:53:55,007 --> 0:53:55,389
Cam Iwasa: this point.

1536
0:53:55,500 --> 0:53:57,640
Cam Iwasa: I was playing soccer and all of a sudden I

1537
0:53:57,680 --> 0:53:59,342
Cam Iwasa: was getting into real estate, so all of the

1538
0:53:59,382 --> 0:54:00,947
Cam Iwasa: real estate stuff was completely brand new

1539
0:54:00,968 --> 0:54:03,466
Cam Iwasa: to me, and if I was too proud to ask

1540
0:54:03,527 --> 0:54:05,121
Cam Iwasa: questions about things that might be

1541
0:54:05,162 --> 0:54:08,545
Cam Iwasa: considered stupid questions, I would still

1542
0:54:08,586 --> 0:54:10,080
Cam Iwasa: be trying to figure out the answers to

1543
0:54:10,120 --> 0:54:12,623
Cam Iwasa: those questions, and so I think that's

1544
0:54:12,643 --> 0:54:13,225
Cam Iwasa: something for me.

1545
0:54:14,680 --> 0:54:15,865
Cam Iwasa: Same thing with sports.

1546
0:54:17,081 --> 0:54:19,128
Cam Iwasa: I was fortunate enough that when I was in

1547
0:54:19,148 --> 0:54:20,603
Cam Iwasa: the last couple of years of my career,

1548
0:54:20,623 --> 0:54:22,761
Cam Iwasa: there was a couple of Academy kids at the

1549
0:54:22,781 --> 0:54:25,561
Cam Iwasa: team sign that were 17, 18 years old, and

1550
0:54:25,621 --> 0:54:27,800
Cam Iwasa: we're really, really talented players, but

1551
0:54:27,820 --> 0:54:30,488
Cam Iwasa: we're trying to find their way from a

1552
0:54:30,568 --> 0:54:32,664
Cam Iwasa: mental standpoint of how to compete with

1553
0:54:32,724 --> 0:54:35,785
Cam Iwasa: grown men, with adults, and kind of find

1554
0:54:35,805 --> 0:54:36,307
Cam Iwasa: their spot.

1555
0:54:36,480 --> 0:54:38,628
Cam Iwasa: And I was fortunate to be in a position

1556
0:54:38,740 --> 0:54:40,186
Cam Iwasa: where I could help these kids when they had

1557
0:54:40,226 --> 0:54:40,567
Cam Iwasa: questions.

1558
0:54:40,660 --> 0:54:42,106
Cam Iwasa: And my biggest thing that I always told

1559
0:54:42,146 --> 0:54:45,349
Cam Iwasa: them is like don't ever hesitate to ask a

1560
0:54:45,389 --> 0:54:45,690
Cam Iwasa: question.

1561
0:54:45,780 --> 0:54:47,286
Cam Iwasa: If you have any question, just ask it,

1562
0:54:47,700 --> 0:54:49,025
Cam Iwasa: because the worst case scenario is you

1563
0:54:49,085 --> 0:54:51,224
Cam Iwasa: realize the answer on your own after you've

1564
0:54:51,425 --> 0:54:53,120
Cam Iwasa: you realize, oh, that is dumb and I

1565
0:54:53,140 --> 0:54:54,820
Cam Iwasa: actually had the answer the whole time, or

1566
0:54:54,840 --> 0:54:55,403
Cam Iwasa: something like that.

1567
0:54:56,080 --> 0:54:58,569
Cam Iwasa: And sometimes you already know the answer

1568
0:54:58,700 --> 0:55:00,861
Cam Iwasa: but you just don't have the confidence to

1569
0:55:00,921 --> 0:55:02,507
Cam Iwasa: decide that is the correct answer.

1570
0:55:02,720 --> 0:55:04,225
Cam Iwasa: And so I think asking questions and not

1571
0:55:04,265 --> 0:55:05,489
Cam Iwasa: being too proud is huge.

1572
0:55:06,060 --> 0:55:08,768
Cam Iwasa: And then along those lines, once you have

1573
0:55:08,808 --> 0:55:11,346
Cam Iwasa: the answer, being confident in your answer,

1574
0:55:11,386 --> 0:55:12,822
Cam Iwasa: being confident in that whatever you're

1575
0:55:12,862 --> 0:55:14,300
Cam Iwasa: doing is the right thing to be doing, if

1576
0:55:14,320 --> 0:55:15,726
Cam Iwasa: you're second guessing yourself as you're

1577
0:55:15,746 --> 0:55:17,385
Cam Iwasa: doing something, it's going to be really

1578
0:55:17,425 --> 0:55:19,504
Cam Iwasa: hard to be successful in, whatever that may

1579
0:55:19,544 --> 0:55:19,665
Cam Iwasa: be.

1580
0:55:20,086 --> 0:55:20,528
Mark Haney: I love it.

1581
0:55:20,620 --> 0:55:21,866
Mark Haney: Well, thanks for joining me on the show.

1582
0:55:22,622 --> 0:55:24,327
Mark Haney: You've got to ask enough questions.

1583
0:55:24,367 --> 0:55:26,703
Mark Haney: That's the same in anything, for sure it

1584
0:55:26,743 --> 0:55:27,767
Mark Haney: happens in entrepreneurship.

1585
0:55:27,860 --> 0:55:28,845
Mark Haney: We need to ask questions.

1586
0:55:28,940 --> 0:55:33,088
Mark Haney: Nobody knows everything, even the old guard,

1587
0:55:33,209 --> 0:55:34,091
Mark Haney: they don't know everything.

1588
0:55:34,220 --> 0:55:35,825
Mark Haney: And we've got to ask questions no matter

1589
0:55:35,865 --> 0:55:37,510
Mark Haney: where we're at in our life.

1590
0:55:37,740 --> 0:55:40,328
Mark Haney: And then once you are committed, then make

1591
0:55:40,348 --> 0:55:41,331
Mark Haney: sure you fully commit.

1592
0:55:41,640 --> 0:55:43,687
Cam Iwasa: Well, and, to that point, something that

1593
0:55:43,727 --> 0:55:45,884
Cam Iwasa: I'm hopefully going to take with me as I

1594
0:55:46,025 --> 0:55:47,701
Cam Iwasa: continue to get older and more experienced

1595
0:55:48,283 --> 0:55:52,723
Cam Iwasa: is oftentimes the new guard has answers

1596
0:55:52,784 --> 0:55:54,502
Cam Iwasa: that the old guard doesn't have I mean

1597
0:55:54,542 --> 0:55:55,948
Cam Iwasa: especially if you look at all the advances

1598
0:55:56,000 --> 0:55:57,385
Cam Iwasa: in technology and things like that.

1599
0:55:58,660 --> 0:56:01,029
Cam Iwasa: I'm not so naive that I think that where

1600
0:56:01,060 --> 0:56:03,021
Cam Iwasa: we're at technologically right now is going

1601
0:56:03,041 --> 0:56:05,428
Cam Iwasa: to be the best that we get, so that my kids,

1602
0:56:05,448 --> 0:56:08,204
Cam Iwasa: when I'm 20 years from now and my kids are

1603
0:56:08,244 --> 0:56:09,501
Cam Iwasa: going through college and stuff, that my

1604
0:56:09,561 --> 0:56:10,846
Cam Iwasa: technology is going to be better than what

1605
0:56:10,886 --> 0:56:11,508
Cam Iwasa: they're dealing with.

1606
0:56:11,660 --> 0:56:13,846
Cam Iwasa: And so I think continuing to get better and,

1607
0:56:14,748 --> 0:56:16,522
Cam Iwasa: again, not being too proud Maybe if you're

1608
0:56:16,562 --> 0:56:18,608
Cam Iwasa: the old guard asking the young guard for

1609
0:56:18,648 --> 0:56:21,823
Cam Iwasa: help, that's a huge part as well 100%.

1610
0:56:21,903 --> 0:56:24,426
Mark Haney: Camawasa, I'm so glad you decided to stay

1611
0:56:24,487 --> 0:56:28,769
Mark Haney: in Sacramento and put the real roots down

1612
0:56:28,809 --> 0:56:32,328
Mark Haney: here permanently, and you're truly a gem.

1613
0:56:32,460 --> 0:56:34,081
Mark Haney: I appreciate you sharing the story, but

1614
0:56:34,161 --> 0:56:36,763
Mark Haney: also just for everything that you are doing

1615
0:56:36,804 --> 0:56:38,930
Mark Haney: to drive our local economy now.

1616
0:56:39,221 --> 0:56:40,662
Cam Iwasa: Oh, sacramento, proud baby, I'm definitely

1617
0:56:40,702 --> 0:56:41,325
Cam Iwasa: not going anywhere.

1618
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Cam Iwasa: Fortunately, my wife is also from here, so

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Cam Iwasa: our roots are thick and we will be here for

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Cam Iwasa: good.

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Mark Haney: All right, thanks for coming on the show.

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Cam Iwasa: Appreciate it.

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Mark Haney: That was great.