Hello everyone and Welcome to another

episode of Selling Greenville your

favorite real estate podcast here in

Greenville, South Carolina, I'm your host

as always Stan Mccune realtor right here in

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me as your realtor with that contact

information in the show notes today I am

excited to have as a guest on this show

on Selling Greenville hope Brooks who

I've been friends with for I don't know

probably close to 10 years now we've

been friends since before I was a

realtor I know that much and I've been a

realtor for eight years so it

honestly it goes back even a few years

before that but this whole

time hope has been one of those

kind of under the radar players in local

real estate investing not someone whose

name is out there a lot I doubt that

you'll hear Hope's name out there a

whole lot but someone who's partnering

with a lot of the people whose names are

out there a lot and kind of under

underpinning a lot of a lot of other

people who have those outward facing

Brands that make you you know that

may or may not appear to be doing a lot

of things regardless of what might be

happening underneath the surface so

hope is kind of under the radar helping

a lot of and partnering with a lot of

other people in our local industry here

and in addition to that I want to say

a little bit of background on on Hope

real quick she's a former Automotive

professional for a long time a current

yoga instructor a cancer Warrior which

we will get to later in the show

mother of two and someone that generally

speaking you don't want to get on the

wrong side of which thankfully hasn't

happened to me yet so all of that said

hope welcome to the show thank you for

being on today thanks danan I appreciate

you having me so this is going to be a

little bit of a different show a

random dude who I didn't realize I was

friends with on Facebook and

admittedly I'm not on Facebook as

much as it might appear I use

Facebook like some people use LinkedIn

so I kind of will accept a lot of friend

requests from people that I don't

necessarily know but anyway a random

dude I didn't know on Facebook but

that I happen to be friends with on

Facebook recently went after hope and me

on Facebook because we own rental

properties God forbid and I thought

you know what this is a teachable moment

first off it's a teachable moment

because you don't mess with hope but

also this is a teachable moment because

there's a ton of ignorance about just

owning rental properties in general I

think it would be good for us to have a

little fun on the show and I used to do

this a lot back when I first started the

show it it I it used to be a little bit

more of a wild card what my episodes

would be like I had a lot of fun fun

shows back then we're kind of rolling

back the clock here and we're going to

roast real estate ignorance in a

teachable manner we're not I'm not

gonna roast the guy we're gon not gonna

talk about his name I've got it you know

I'm going to share some screenshots I

redacted out his name and whatnot

we're not going to make fun him although

we kind of are it's more we're going to

make fun of his talking points which are

common talking points among a lot of

people on social media right now who

don't understand what it's like to

rent or be a landlord and so I

just want to make sure that everyone

understands how we're approaching

that so I guess let's start with this my

initial Facebook post literally said

this this is my Facebook post what I've

learned about on social media is when I

It's usually the things that I think are

the least controversial that become the

most controversial I don't understand

that you probably hope you've probably

seen that

on on some of my posts but here's

what my post said I said just doled out

the cash for the property taxes for my

rentals whomever salary I just paid for

this year you're welcome that's it that

was that was my post I thought generally

speaking everyone hates property taxes

and most people do most people

responded agreeing with me hope

responded agreeing with me with how

ridiculous the Greenville property tax

structure is and then this guy just went

off off the rails on me on hope it was

It was kind of it was kind of

hilarious to see and I and I knew

shortly thereafter that I would

be hearing from Hope and sure enough

like I was in the process of sending you

a text message and then you sent

me one before I even had a chance to

to send one to you so I'm curious

when that went down what was your just

initial

reaction well when I first read your

post and I see often you know what you

post and it's pretty clear every time

and I don't always comment this one got

me because I do feel like real estate

taxes are property taxes are ridiculous

you're continuing to pay and pay and pay

and they always increase them and then

you add to that if you own a second home

not even necessarily rental property

just maybe you did well enough to have a

second home and you're paying extra

you're paying basically double the tax

for that so I don't I've never liked the

premise of how that's set up in this

particular State it's different state to

state so I immediately was like I don't

like that either and I don't like the

fact that they charge us more for a

property we're not as a primary

residence which I thought and I gave my

explanation as to why and it hasn't even

if I didn't own a property I've never

agreed with it and this guy decided to

chime in he doesn't know me he does now

he did block us so he did block he did

block us yes he did block us I knew that

was gonna happen but yeah I mean I

initially thought this was a great place

to like engage some conversation about

property real estate taxes and such

never thought somebody was G to go off

the rails like that especially somebody

who was uneducated and then it

highlighted to me the same thing I've

seen other people say to my face

sometimes they assume a certain thing

because I own a rental property most

people like you said don't know that I

do things kind of under the covers and

behind the scenes, I'm not outwardly you

know buying 50 properties a year but I

do other things and that works for my

life and it is become a place where like

you and I have worked together we've

been friends a long time it opened the

door you were the first person I ever

worked with and took that chance on and

it was it was invaluable to me to learn

about that so I just really saw that

when I text you I was like people really

don't understand what it takes to be a

landlord whether you own one or a

hundred properties yeah and you and I

were talking before we started

recording here about how I've seen on

social media you know it's mostly

geners I guess but younger crowd that

still hasn't owned their first home that

are in that renting cycle and I keep

seeing people say things like landlords

need to get real jobs and it's like we

have real jobs any anyway I've got

I've got the the screenshot pulled up

here of one of the comments that that

this person made I'm just going to read

it for those that aren't able to see

this on YouTube if you're watching on

YouTube you can see the screenshot if

you're not and I'm gonna because

it makes our picture look pretty

small because we're recording this on

Zoom not going to show the screenshot

the whole time but we're going to be

talking through this so here's what

this person said to hope the property

tax actually encourages we always know

reply guides are their favorite word is

actually the property tax actually

encourages Primary Home Ownership

instead of greedy landlords who wish to

profit off other people's hard work if

you don't like the higher tax rate don't

own rentals let's be honest you'd pocket

the difference as profit I'd also add

you don't pay it your renters do you're

simply a middleman if y'all were seriously

interested in the rising cost of

housing you'd be against so much

investment in Residential Properties you

want servitude not Freedom it's a guy

that doesn't even know you he's telling

you you want servitude not Freedom

servitude I believe my actual response

to him was one because I bullet point

you don't know me and I had two

subsequent bullet points so that I was

very clear because actually I don't need

that word in my

response yeah you did and I'll

I'll go to your screenshot here in

a second he went on to say or or

maybe be against Section 8 housing

rentals and payment collections which

many people offer to keep certain

populations oppressed but instead let's

have a pity party for you and your

Investment Portfolio when I see you come

out for everyone all caps for everyone

first owning a primary residence before

anyone owns a secondary property then

maybe I'll give some legitimacy to your

argument greed like yours takes many

forms okay a lot a lot to unpack here

okay let me start by saying this he said

the property tax actually of course

I'm gonna highlight that word again

encourages Primary Home Ownership

instead of greedy landlords who wish to

profit off of other people's hard work

the first part of that sentence is

somewhat legitimate right the property

tax structure does encourage Primary

Home Ownership but he immediately

jumps into instead of greedy landlords

who wish to profit off of other people's

hard

work I I'm I'm curious so we need people

to

rent people not everyone can be a

homeowner some people H like most people

start renting right did you rent

before you owned yes I rented with two

other people because I could not afford

a place on my own and I was 18 so did I

honest my my first place I also rented

with two other people same reason it

wasn't and even after I got

married the first year that we were

married Michelle and I

rented and and then you know we

granted I graduated in 2008 Great

Recession you know that wasn't exactly

the best time in the world to qualify

for a mortgage because I would have

been at home ler sooner could I have

been but long story short is it never

occurred to me like we need to get rid

of landlords like these people are

greedy I needed a place to rent like if

I didn't have a like how do you rent if

there aren't going to be landlords I

truly don't understand what people are

thinking these days and and it goes

along too it's not just private

landlords there's always somewhere to

rent there were apartments for as long

and they're all go back for decades

that's landlord in a corporate fashion

yep nobody's bashing them so why would a

private landlord be bashed and for me

you what it took you to get your first

home it took me eight years to buy my

first home I graduated in

1990 and I didn't buy my first home

until

1998 wow so it wasn't I my options in

between renting and sharing spaces was

living in my car or sleeping on

somebody's couch and then giving them

some cash until I could get my next

place that's what people don't

understand is that space had not been

there for me to crash on somebody's

couch and give them some money or rent

with two other girls or eventually get

my own apartment where I could actually

afford it and then eventually get a home

that's eight years from my high school

graduation before I owned a home I went

through multiple jobs I worked multiple

jobs to be able to get to that point and

afford it I bought the cheapest place it

was I think the house I bought was

$98,000 it was a small town house it was

1100 square feet I was not rich this was

just like I had a great job by then I

finished College you know doubling down

I was able to do that so but had I not

had a rental place where would I have

been I couldn't go home I was not

allowed so I couldn't go to my mom's

basement or extra bedroom and live there

and be cushy and happy and comfortable

and drive a nice car I drove an old

beater but before you

started doing the brushless car

washes that's right that is right

yeah to your point you probably

already know this but the average

first-time home buyer is now between 35

and 36 years old which is insane so that

means people are either living with

their parents or renting until they're

roughly 35 or 36 now and I don't know

like what people think I guess it's

not so much that they truly are like

landlords shouldn't exist I just think

that they think that landlords are just

making tons and tons of money I've got a

reality check for some people out

there I've had rental properties that

were negative cash flow multiple

multiple times I'm not proud of that

that's not something that I like but it

it happens sometimes sometimes a

property doesn't perform and guess

what when you're a landlord you can't

just all of the sudden say you know what

this isn't performing I'm going to give

up on it you you are still obligated to

uphold your lease agreement with your

tenants to keep that property in good

condition if you choose to not keep it

in good condition then it's going to

lose value and then the entire idea of

an investment is sunk so it's just kind

of ridiculous and this I'm going to

reshare this

again here he said with regard to the

higher tax rate let's be honest you'd

pocket the difference as profit now I

want to I want to this was one of my

favorite things that he said because I

was trying to understand okay so if

rates weren't higher right then we would

somehow still be a if the property

tax rates weren't as high as they are

for rental properties he's suggesting

that we would be able to create a new

market that is still us charging rent at

the rate that we're currently charging

it with a higher tax rate but we're

pocketing the difference that is not how

the free market works so wrong that is

so wrong and let me give you an example

so the home I own right now that has

tenants in it that I've had for three

and a half years I bought it in the

middle of the pandemic when nothing was

open that's apparently who I am I crisis

of life let's just buy a house and I

bought a fully renovated house so I

didn't have to do anything to it so I

paid a little bit more money for it well

it because the home was unlivable prior

to the Builder who renovated it by the

time the property tax adjusted I had

owned the home for a year in some change

so when my property tax adjusted up for

a higher value of the home it was double

what the home used to be valued at and

I'm at 6% because it's not my primary

which is three times Mone the which

which at the end of the day is three

sometime I've seen sometimes three and a

half times what the owner occupied rate

is so when I bought the home and I had

two people that were viable to rent it

one of them worked out I was fair in

market value for that home even though

it was nicer than anything else on the

street because it been renovated by the

time it adjusted I was already in that

contract with my tenant and he was going

to extend one to two more years we had

already talked about it so I wasn't

price gouging him so what do you think

happened you're talking about negative I

was barely breaking even per the per

month and when something happened and

needed to be repaired that was just out-

of pocket cost for me so then it took

another year for that to settle in and

adjust so here I am in year three and

it's finally kind of balanced out three

years in I haven't skipped a mortgage I

have shorted the tenants when they

needed something I made sure that it was

there because they work directly with me

I don't have multiple properties so I

don't really have a reason to pay

someone else to manage it for me I can

handle it I'm very open with my tenants

about what they need what I can give

them and I'm fair in the market value of

the actual home's rental price for the

area and it's downtown yeah you can't

you can't

create like a new market like you can't

if every you know 1,200 foot house is

rent renting for $1,400 you can't just

all of a sudden come in and be like well

I'm going to rent mine for ,700 like

that's just not how it works it's

a free market at the end of day if the

taxes were adjusted down then we

wouldn't have to add a little bit more

to it we're trying to deal with

everything there's we're not just the

renters don't deal with anything except

for keeping it clean and pest

extermination stuff yep well let's let's

talk about what would happen let's say

that Greenville County and or South

Carolina as a whole because it's really

more of a state thing than the county

collects the taxes but the state kind of

sets it to a certain

extent so let's say that tomorrow

Greenville County lowered property taxes

on rental properties from the 6% to the

4% rate which would you know

effectively make landlords pay a third

of the taxes that they're currently

paying here's what would happen yes for

for the duration of the lease agreements

landlords would be profiting would be

would be pocketing that

money after those lease agreements

expired someone has property that isn't

Renning out for whatever reason sitting

for longer than they're comfortable with

which is happening more and more

frequently right now because we've

actually had an apartment boom in in our

country people complain about that in

Greenville it's actually way less in

Greenville than it is in other parts of

the country but rent prices are

actually starting to go down a little

bit n on a nationwide scale because

of this and and so what happens in

that situation when a landlord's costs

go down they become more interested in

eliminating vacancies than they are in

squeezing out profit so rents would

actually start to go down some land it

would start with a few landlords

landladies at first they would start

charging less the apartments would

probably be the first ones that they

would start charging less and then

eventually we would all have to charge

less because we're all paying less and

so this whole idea that we would

profit pocket the difference as

profit first off there's nothing wrong

with profiting like no but here's

another thing I want to say before I get

to off topic here I have most of the

rentals that I bought over the years

were rental properties before I bought

them and I'm usually herting tenants

and in some cases I'm talking

directly to the previous landlord those

people are some of the poorest people

I've T communicated with there was one

landlord that I bought a few duplexes

from and I had to go to his house to

to reconcile something and he lived in a

mobile home that was falling apart in a

trailer park that he owned the whole

trailer park was falling apart and

the trailer park was in like a junkyard

like that is how he was

living and so I bought it

these two duplexes they were all falling

apart as well obviously because the

landlord's house was falling apart and I

completely fixed them up and of course I

charged more rent after that I had put

in a ton of my own money and Sweat

Equity into doing that and so

anyway I don't know a whole lot of

people that are just greedy landlords

just making tons and tons of money off

of rental properties that just doesn't

exist I was if Nick is

listening who if you want to if

you're friends with me on Facebook

you'll see Nick comment on some of my

stuff I think maybe he even commented on

this thread but Nick and and Lawrence

and some others that I know are

starting to sell off rental properties

because they can't make money it's hard

to make money with the current tax

structure

so so anyway this is a problem that

Greenville needs to figure out and

the state needs to figure out because it

it if we start to see landlords and

landladies start to sell off properties

that is actually going to cause rent to

go up that's that's the what's going to

actually happen unlike what this

person thinks which is that you know we

shouldn't be landlords because we're

we're just greedy and then also look at

it from this the renters perspective if

you're if you're working toward buying a

house or maybe you just want to rent the

rest of your life some people do that

and that's great but what about the

places that won't take your size family

or the dog that you have you know

those are places where you are instantly

denied a place to live even if you could

afford it and it cost more because it

was a downtown apartment but you need to

go find a private landlord because you

have a dog or two and you need a fence

yard or you need somewhere to put your

tools in a shed those are the types of

things that this guy didn't even

consider with his asinine comment and

his no knowledge about the rental

industry at all clearly but that's

things that people don't talk about I

mean people that are in my home both my

tenants my one I had for three years and

my current one both have dogs they both

have breeds that would not have been

allowed at an apartment nor would it

have been easily accessible for them to

get the dog in and out of the house my

yard is fence when I bought the home it

wasn't completely fenced so I extended

the fence across the front of the home

to help make my property more viable for

that demographic because most people

have

dogs yeah and you know you're you're

mentioning all these different things

you had to do I love that he said that

we're just a middleman

like we're the middleman that had enough

credit equity and money to buy the house

exactly exactly but I

mean I can't tell so I think a lot of

people that are like anti-landlord

right now I think that they think that

that we that the average landlord

doesn't actually have a job like I

referenced that earlier so I've only

known in my life a handful of people

that their only job was managing their

own rental

portfolio every one of those got out of

that because it was too

exhausting and did not make enough

money you can there are so many better

ways to make money out there it's just

rental properties are an investment

product I've told people before I never

give investment advice but generally

speaking What I Hear in from investment

advice is don't put all your money in

one thing right I used to have all of my

money in real estate and then I realized

you know what I'm not very Diversified

here and so I've had to

diversify a bit but all of

these apparent people that think that

these landlords are out here and all

they're doing is just sitting around all

day you know collecting rent not having

to do anything like how many of those

people exist because all the ones that I

know of they've gotten out of it I don't

know do you know any no because every

real that I know that I'm friends with

that I have worked with every one of

them has they're either a realtor as a

full-time job or they're a broker or

it's somebody like me who I worked my

way through automotive and then

automotive industrial software and I

worked my whole life for I don't know 30

something years full-time to get to this

point and I'm opposite of you I was

Diversified in different areas but had

no real estate portfolio but was able to

invest to be able to

diversify my portfolio away from like

the market and the standard things 401ks

that people invest in because the ROI is

not as high on those and it's much more

risky real estate is probably in my

opinion the least risky and I I will

qualify that I've owned four of my own

homes so also this gentleman did not

know that I started with my 90

something, home I made $400 on that

house when I sold it and I lived in it

for

seven years wow seven years and I

basically sold it for what I bought it

for that's crazy and I had made an

improvement when did you purchase

what year I bought it in 98 and I sold

it in 2003 okay that's interesting so

maybe the.com bubble had something to do

with that maybe and I think location

you know because I when I first moved to

this area I didn't really know but

that's that was a place I could afford

so I bought a place versus I had rented

all those years I was like I don't want

to keep throwing rent away my one of my

parents was a realtor so I kind of knew

eventually, you need to buy something and

have some Equity but I had to work my

way to that and then I owned a second

home and that one was like we talking

about it needed a little bit of work it

had been abandoned for six months and I

put the work into the house I sold it

and made a profit built another house

with like you know a standard Builder

track builder and then I sold that house

and moved in where I'm at now so I'm

four homes deep before I ever bought my

first rental home from 1998 to 20

20 and that's that's I think pretty much

everyone's story right like no no

landlord just go out and start buying

rental properties before they

bought their own house like we're and

this is what I tell people all the

time on the show because I advocate for

home ownership on the show I think

people should break the rent cycle

but I also own rental properties, but I

actually you know this dude he all uded

to the fact that I'm anti- home

ownership I am a

realtor like I don't I don't make hardly

any money off my rental properties in

comparison to what I make as a realtor

like this is my full-time job I couldn't

quit this and just manage my rental

portfolio and that be that just doesn't

work that way all right I'm gonna

pull up because we're we're getting

short on time here and I want to respect

your time I'm going to pull

up another screenshot

here's the one where you went through

your bullet points you don't know me you

clearly drank your haterade this morning

don't ever speak to me or anyone with

this level of disrespect and for invest

in therapy because I'm not here to be

bullied or verbally assaulted by your

unresolved issues and anger problems I'm

not sure who that's true yeah and

someone did some kind of a laughing I

think that that was him actually that

did that laughing response like a a you

know like

a like he like he knows something that

we don't kind of oh my go kind of thing

and so he responded hope Brooks

you're here to complain I get it when

someone calls you on your complaining

you play the victim again he knows you

so well you chose to have rentals your

choice don't complain about the taxes

for things you voluntarily entered into

feel free to project more if you need

what kind of an argument is that I

don't know he inserted words like

projection that he doesn't even

understand where they should be placed

in a sentence so

my minor in English is kind of irking me

right now listening to that being read

again he heard about that

somewhere online he was on red my go and

he heard this is the way to to

try to argue with people and I do think

that and I get that the cost of living

right now is outrageous and homes are

outrageous but they were outrageous for

people in

1965 who when you could buy a brand new

car for what I don't know3 $4,000 yeah

something

that's like $30,000 now or $40,000 now

same thing with homes I can remember my

dad telling me that first house was I

don't know 8 or $20,000 in like 1969 well

it was a 2,000 foot home in a nice

neighborhood in Northern Indiana yeah it

was expensive but he had a great job and

I look at it now too even all as I

graduated high school in the 90s was it

cheap no at the time I don't know $900

for rent or $800 or $900 for a

one-bedroom and I mean one bedroom and

very small I think people forget that

this is scalable everything's going up

in price it isn't just one thing and

that's where they're getting hung up is

thinking that we're over here making

millions some people probably are I am

not that person I like my rental

property I love the property if it was a

big enough house I'd probably move into

it myself but I like the owning a home I

like investing in real estate I like

working in transactions that do things

for my wallet because I am here to make

money I can't live without an income

period and whether that is working in

automotive or that is doing yoga

teaching like I do now I diversify where

my income comes from in order to afford

the things I need to afford for myself

and my children and I'm trying to build

wealth I'm trying to leave a little bit

of a legacy for my kids so that they

don't grow up and have absolutely

nothing like I never existed on this

planet I want them to be proud of what I

put into it to make their life have a

nice Foundation to start off on am I

giving them everything absolutely not

you know me better than that Braton

actually starting a job in a couple of

weeks so I was really excited about that

and it's through the school but I

want my children to feel valuable they

see what I go through I'm a single

parent they see what I've done they know

that it's possible I don't want them

ever to think at 18 that they can't go

do something or 20 that they need to be

still living in the bedroom that I'm

providing for them I want them to be

autonomous be able to make decisions to

critically think this gentleman clearly

did not get taught that no and I

should have mentioned before the well

I'll pull I'll pull it back up I'm going

to go back to that first screenshot here

again he actually what's funny is he

actually contradicted himself at one

point so he said that we would make more

profit we we would just make more profit

if property taxes were lower but then he

also said let me look at this I'd

also add you don't pay it your renters

do referring to the property tax

well I actually agree with that

that's the whole point that's that's the

whole thing when it comes to like why

when I'm trying to you know when I'm

doing my behind the scenes political

stuff why we want property taxes to go

lower isn't to benefit the landlords

it's actually to benefit the people

renting because all of those costs end

up they do get passed through to the

renter so he's actually right about that

point

but at the end of the day when that

goes up when property taxes go up

landlords have to raise their rent to

account for the property tax increases

like otherwise it doesn't make sense to

have a rental right so then the landlord

sells that rental now there are fewer

rentals on the market and now everyone

else can raise their prices because

there is less Supply and but the same

amount of demand again basic economics

that people just don't

understand when they're making this type

of of

argumentation just like with I can use

my house as an example like the time it

took for that property tax to finally

adjust and come to me in my bottom line

I didn't change the lease in the middle

of it I sucked it up that's what you do

yep and then the next year I explained

to my tenant yes I'd love to do another

year with you but this is going to be

the cost he did not look at me like I

was crazy he said you have been very

fair to me and I understand everything

goes up in cost he signed the next lease

I had him for three years same thing

with the people I have now this is your

you know cost this is what the I'm

including like a fee for an animal like

whatever it is because at the end of the

day when they leave I have to make sure

that home is in exceptional shape for

the next person that comes in because I

don't want someone living in filth or

things that are broken I'm GNA make sure

to invest that yeah 100% and that

and you know South Carolina is a pretty

landlord friendly state but we still

have to honor our lease agreements right

so like when a landlord signs that lease

agreement that's a that's a commitment

that the landlord is making as well

and and a lot of people don't realize

that they think that that we can you

know set the rules we can break the

rules we can do all of that all right

here's here's the last here's the

last thing that that I've really

loved have you ever he he he asked me

this Stan mck have you ever seen the

Amish who work to take care of their

neighbors instead of taking advantage of

them

what so I did try to comment to that

because there's plenty Amish Country I

could introduce him to but he had

already blocked Us by then and I

couldn't reply well and I and I what's

funny is like there are a lot of ways

I did reply to him there are a lot of

ways that I was thinking about replying

one is that yes I actually have seen

and known many Amish over the years I've

been to Lancaster I I grew up not very

far from there I saw the whole Amish

community we did a field trip to see

them like they were like a relic or

something with all due respect because I

I do appreciate the Amish community but

it is funny how people will go to

Lancaster Pennsylvania and and and look

at them like like they're in a museum or

something but but I have no idea what

this means like is he suggesting that

our

the only thing I could conclude was that

he was suggesting we should be have a

more socialistic system rather than a

capitalistic system and that's how I

responded I was like if what did I say I

was like I I said to him what what did

the Amish have to do with this brother

if socialism is what you want we have

that in many other places in the world

yes go to one of those other places we

don't have a system the Amish are an

ethn religious group right like

that's I don't know are we is suggesting

that landlords are supposed to be just

giving out housing to people is that

like how does that work I that's what

I'm trying to figure out because how are

we supposed to go build a house and then

just give it away and you and I and and

this guy build this house and just give

it to somebody is he gonna just give his

big truck to somebody well and i' and

I've had the director of Greenville

homus Alliance on here and there's a lot

of nonprofits that are doing that kind

of thing but it someone has to pay for

it right who's having to pay for it

taxpayers and volunteers pay for it they

pay for it out of their money they

fundraise they go Hands-On and and

build the houses themselves or find a

home that can be renovated so it's it's

you know donations and fundraisers and

you know nonprofits that are helping

with that and then you or I or whoever

can participate physically go and do

that as well he could do

that so it the cost has to come from

somewhere like I I don't know the that

these are just kind of

the I think that where we're at

right now and I've talked about this

a few times I think there's just there's

a lot of people getting squeezed

financially and perhaps this person is

one of them and they're just looking for

someone to blame and the real the

reality is it's not that there's no one

to blame I'm not going to say there's no

one to blame but but the targets

generally speaking the people that are

being blamed are the easy ones to go

after like everyone knows landlords

everyone knows rental properties they're

not paying attention to what's going on

at the world economic Forum where

literally Global Elites are talking

about doing all sorts of things that

would crush the the the people at the

bottom like that's where that's where

they need to be focused on what's going

on you know at the in Davos when they

have that world economic Forum you know

all these billionaires come together and

all these world leaders come together

and talk about how they're going to take

money from all of us that's where if you

want to blame someone I'm not saying

everything that goes on at Davos say is

a problem I'm and I'm not suggesting in

case for those that might take it there

I'm not saying billionaires are a

problem either but at the end of the day

it's the rich that oppress the poor and

landlords aren't in that rich class

generally speaking yes normally not yeah

the super wealthy they do have real

estate but it's the number is something

like I think

it's I think it's something like 90% of

landlords own fewer than four properties

we are the average landlord like the

people people like you people like me

it's not people like Warren Buffett he

he's not your stereotypical

landlord and so I'm glad that this

person gave us a forum to be able

to roast these ideas because they

are ridiculous and I probably most of

the people listening to the show are not

anti- landlord anti- renting or any of

that kind of stuff but there's a

pretty good chance that you're going to

people listening are going to run into

these types of arguments at some point

and it's good to know that these

crazies are out there and be careful

because I'm someone that argues like

that with a stranger on social media

like I don't want to run into that

person on the street yeah because I was

immediately like like how do you know

this guy and you know I researched him

and I was like we've got like 17 people

in common and then he vanished off

social media because he blocked us so

that tells you a lot right there but I

do I think there's a misconception and

like I say people have talked to me

about that they don't understand how

I've been able to do all the things that

I've done they never saw the behind the

scenes work they never saw when I was

driving the old beater that leaked oil

and worked two jobs you know retail and

well I was a welder I didn't have a

glamorous job sometimes you just have to

take the job that pays you what you need

to get paid to go to the next step and

so people don't really see that they see

the end result they see that Stan right

now has a really nice truck well they

didn't see when you were driving your

Subaru for 10 years what about the

Sentra do you remember the Sentra with

no

bumper I

don't but yes I'm like you just have to

put it in perspective everybody needs

somewhere to live if I had not been able

to rent share rent spaces with people I

don't know where I would be right now

because I couldn't have afforded it and

in the in between space like I said I

couldn't always afford it so I'm on

somebody's sofa or maybe I spent a night

or two in my car that didn't last long

but it was stuff that happened to me and

that's what people don't understand I'm

not over here I'd love to get rich if

this would make me get completely rich

and retired that'd be great I'm kind

of semi-retired if you want to get into

that right now but a little semi-retired

right now but that affords me something

that I enjoy doing I like learning about

it was a hard learning curve in the

first this first house I owned with the

change of the tax and how long it took

for that I kept kind of like I knew it

was going to change but then it wasn't

and then it was like oh here it is yeah

depending on when you buy you can get up

to two years before that before that

hits and that's kind of I bought in June

so it kind of took a little while for it

to cycle through yeah but yeah I mean

I do well I treat my tenants well I

offer for a nice space I want to

continue to be able to do that for what

I feel like is a reasonable amount of

rent for someone current the current

tenants are looking to buy a home

hopefully by next year maybe not if not

they at least have a safe clean place to

live that is Affordable and it allows

them to have their pet so there's a

whole lot of perks to it as well 100% so

we're getting towards the end of our

time here I had mentioned earlier that

you're a cancer Warrior

I suspect there are people listening

to the show that know you and maybe did

not know that you have been battling

cancer now diagnosed with stage four

cancer how many months

ago 22 months it'll be two years April 1

okay stage four coloral cancer so I'm

going to share in the show notes a link

to hopes give and kind link for anyone

that wants to contribute hope is a

single mom battling cancer to be to

be alive for her kids and has been

battling stage 4 cancer now for 22

months I'll let you give an update here

in a second but before that I want to

mention that I will include that link if

you want to contribute to Hope or her

family or if you just want to see her

story she's got incredible information

on there I lost my father to cancer last

year and seeing Hope's story and how

how she had to approach her cancer and

and all of that it really helped me to

better understand what my dad was going

through and what was kind of going on in

his body because he took a very

different kind of non-invasive approach

because he had other health

issues but I will include that in the

show notes if you want to if you want to

look into that and I would encourage any

of you guys I don't ever ask you guys to

give me money outside of using me as

your realtor I am asking if you could

donate towards Pope and her family

with all that said any sort of if

anything you want to say with regard to

that this is your Forum so I was

diagnosed April 1st of 2022 everybody

that does know me knows that I'm the

poster child for health everything in

moderation I've worked on my health my

entire adult life to avoid bad habits

and it was a shock to me probably even

more so to the community of the fitness

people that I'm friends with and that I

see every single day but col rectal

cancer doesn't discriminate neither does

any other cancer and no I can't pinpoint

one thing I just know that one day I

felt great and a few weeks later I

didn't feel great and a few weeks after

that they figured out what was wrong

with me it was very quick onset I didn't

have a lot of symptoms one thing they

don't tell you about color rectal cancer

is sometimes there are no symptoms and

by the time you have the symptom mine

particular symptom was I was unable to

eat as of as much when I would sit

down for a meal that then led to me

being fatigued that led me me having

some right side abdominal pain no other

symptoms and that was my liver swelling

up from the cancer tumors that had

invaded it so if you're not familiar

with metastatic or stage four that just

means that your original cancer left its

original spot and went somewhere else in

your body in my case it was the liver

because with chorle it's typically the

liver the lungs or both they do say

now that you can be 45 to get a

colonoscopy I'm just going to be honest

with you that's not enough you need to

be getting screened much earlier because

early onset is where mine fell into play

I was in the middle of trying to figure

out what was wrong with me when I turned

50 and I was eligible at 50 to have a

colonoscopy had I been able to have one

you know the year before two years

before five years before 10 years before

they may have caught that one pup that

caused this so I encourage everybody if

your insurance won't pay for it work the

system tell them you're having problems

do something if you have to pay it out

of pocket find a way to pay for it ask

people to help you I would encourage

everybody if you're at least 30 or 35 to

go ahead and get a colonoscopy and if

they tell you to come back in 10 years

tell them no you'll see them in two or

three years because I feel like it's

just misdiagnosed and Mis misinterpreted

because the symptoms are different for

everybody it's not always the standard

symptoms and then just know that with

coloral cancer this particular one where

I'm at in mine and diagnosis they say

it's incurable so the best I can get is

no evidence of disease I had 60% of

my liver removed on November the 30th

and they say they got everything and all

the margins visibly Imaging everything

showed no cancer but I have a blood

panel that's telling some different

story so we'll know a little bit more in

about two weeks so I just encourage

everybody be very aware of how your body

operates anything that seems out of the

norm at all don't take the answer of oh

you're just a female or you're just this

age sir don't take that answer that

answer sometimes times will lead to your

early death so fight for whatever you

need and try to get things covered if

you can with insurance and if not figure

out a way to pay it out of pocket I

would have paid it out of pocket if I

had known that this was even a

possibility they were like no family

history no this you're good wait till

you're 50 the early onset is considered

anything prior to 50 so 30 to 50 is the

highest Rising numbers right now of

color rectal cancer and it's the second

leading cause of death and that has

happened just over the last 10 years

that's that tells you anything

yeah yeah I'm trying to figure out what

would what would cause that to be is

would it be Plastics would it be the

food that we're eating it's it's crazy

that that that's Rising that way it is

because if you look at the I'm in a lot

of groups I work with other patients as

well I work with the company that I have

an abdominal pump it's called A Hai

heptic arterial infusion goes right to

my liver that's what got me to liver

reection was to get that tumor small

enough I work with that company so I see

all ages all demographics all

backgrounds some people are vegan some

people are vegetarian some people are

pescatarian you see it all and nobody

knows where it's coming from or why

there's no answer to why you're seeing

less color rectal cancer in the older

population where it used to live than

and you're seeing more of it now in the

in the 30 I've seen 21 28 year olds

but the 30 to 50 is is Young and they

call it early onset so I very much

encourage every by keep an eye on your

blood work if you have questions you can

reach out to me directly I'm very

easy to get a hold of just ask me any

question you need I'd happily answer

them

directly awesome that's a great stopping

point hopes given kind will be in the

show notes again if you want to learn

more about what she's gone through in

addition to contributing towards her and

her family is do you want to do you

want that to be your how people would

reach out to you or is there a different

way that you would rather them do that

you can post my email in there if you

want to you got my email W you put that

in there and they can reach out to me

directly that's how most people that

initially connect with me that's how we

and they can also find me on Instagram

if you want to put that link up there as

well okay Instagram handles on there

perfect perfect and if they want to do

Yogi you're still you're still doing

that right I'll be back February 2nd I

took two months off for my Livery

section all right I'm back at it what

and where could they find that I

teach at Southern oh on woodriff Road

next to Whole Foods and I also teach

downtown at West a studio called

shine oh so I can be found all over

in a couple different Studios and if I

do well the next few months I might add

a few more classes awesome well good

stuff well hope thank you so much that

was hope Brooks everyone

Rockstar cancer Warrior single mom all

of those great things in addition to

being a land lady on the side but not a

greedy one

unlike not greedy unlike what people

what people think actually actually

you're very greedy but hope

thank you so much and really

appreciate you taking the time and I

know that just with all that you're

going through that you know this

adding this to your schedule was

something so I appreciate that

incredibly so thank you so much for

those of you that are

listening please go to the show notes

and please look up those things my

contact information will be in the show

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