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HEATHER BIRKETT: Hello, and
welcome to the National Trust

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Podcast. I'm Heather Birkett. In
today's episode, we discover how

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an ordinary incident led to one
of the greatest series of

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thoughts in the history of
mankind and the unravelling of

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the mysteries of the universe.

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Today, rather than starting our
journey in the grounds of a

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National Trust property, we've
made our way to the iconic

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biospheres and exotic plant
collection of the Eden Project

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in St Austell, Cornwall.

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Amongst all of Eden's exciting
flora and fauna sits a very

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ordinary looking Apple tree
sapling that looks a bit out of

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place.

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It's skinny and spindly, and
compared to some of its

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neighbours, looks a little bit
plain Jane.

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But you should never judge a
book by its cover, because this

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sapling has one inspirational
story to tell. [

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GENERIC: SFX] 3, 2, 1, 0.
Engines at maximum thrust for

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lift off.

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TIMOTHY PEAKE: There's an
incredible amount of power,

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noise and vibration as the
engines accelerate to full

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thrust.

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There's not a huge amount of
acceleration in the first few

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seconds. It's 300 tonnes of
rocket lifting off.

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My name is Tim Peake and I'm an
astronaut with the European

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Space Agency.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: The date is the
15th of December 2015. And Tim

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has hitched a ride on the
Russian Soyuz rocket on a

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mission to the International
Space Station. Quite possibly

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the commute of a lifetime.

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TIMOTHY PEAKE: Quite quickly
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that's when the acceleration
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You're on the way.

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It's far noisier outside the
rocket for the spectators who

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are about a kilometre away.

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Inside, we have a number of
different stages to go through.

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The first stage will take us up
to about 60 kilometers.

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And then we jettison the first
stage boosters. And at that

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point, we have a really big drop
in acceleration as those first

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stage boosters fall away.

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It's a much gentler, smoother
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just one engine firing.

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That gets us above the Earth's
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And that's when the nose fairing
jettisons so we can get to see

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the view of space approaching
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And then the third stage kicks
in, and that is pure

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acceleration, up to about 4 Gs
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It just goes on and on and on.
The whole launch sequence lasts

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for nearly nine minutes.

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The idea, of course, is to get
you up to about 220 kilometers

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at about 25 times the speed of
sound. So it's a wild ride.

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You really are feeling the full
force of that rocket's

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acceleration. And then, you
know, within a fraction of a

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second, the engine cuts out. And
we're in zero-g.

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Very quiet, very peaceful, and
everything floats inside the

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spacecraft. And you know that
you safely made it to orbit.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: Hitching a ride
alongside Tim on this mission

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are the seeds from which the
Apple tree at the Eden Project

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grew, and for quite a
significant reason. It's a story

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that you may be familiar with.

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It all started hundreds of years
ago on the 25th of December with

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the birth of a very special
child.

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Richard Fairhead, National Trust
volunteer, explains more.

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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: On the 25th of
December, a baby was born

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surrounded by farm animals.

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Some chickens, a few pigs, I
have no doubt, and some fields

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for vegetables.

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The main crop, if you can call
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Lincolnshire, of course, sheep
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those days, and his mother was
very keen that he should take on

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the farm.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: But rather than
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his mind set on other things.

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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: He was
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He made models. There's one
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windmill. He took it out into
the field, and the wind blew.

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And it turned the sails just as
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Then the story goes on that he
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think, well, it's not going to
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He thought about this for some
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He made a little treadmill, like
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found a real mouse, put the
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mouse did its stuff, and turned
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I think that's an indication of
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and his inquisitiveness and that
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really saw him through the rest
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When he became a teenager, his
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the King School.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: But school
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the kind of education that he
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mind.

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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: They weren't
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science and the sort of things
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in.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: And despite
having her mind set, on him

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taking over the farm after
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eventually persuaded to let him
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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: In 1661, he
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Trinity College.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: And even here,
he still wasn't able to get the

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kind of education that he
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But finally, in 1665, he got his
degree. And free to study more

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autonomously, he was able to
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interested him.

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But this was short-lived.

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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: In 1665, in
London, the plague hit, the

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bubonic plague.

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And it was beginning to go out
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And they were so worried at
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with all the people meeting in
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real disaster.

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So they took the decision to
close the university and sent

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everybody home.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: So our young
scientist was sent back to

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Lincoln to social distance. But
far from disrupting his

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research, lockdown gave him the
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himself in his work.

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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: So in about a
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on some of his big ideas. The
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HEATHER BIRKETT: He studied
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experimented with lenses, and
was the first to split white

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light into its rainbow spectrum
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But it was an instance of
happenstance while he was

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relaxing in his apple orchard
that would lead to his greatest

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discovery.

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RICHARD FAIRHEAD: He was sitting
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reading a book, thinking about
some theory he was following up.

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And as apples do, one of them
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And I guess he was a bit
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where the Apple had come from.

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And he began to think, what
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the Earth? Is there some sort of
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Is there some sort of force
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And of course, he thought about
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in time came up with this whole
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HEATHER BIRKETT: So in case you
haven't guessed it yet, the man

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we're talking about is Sir Isaac
Newton and the property The

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National Trust's Woolsthorpe
Manor in Lincoln, still home to

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Newton's Apple tree.

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His theory of gravity is
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granted. But in the 1600s,
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Schilt, postdoctoral scholar at
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monumental impact.

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DR CORNELIUS SCHILT: It changed
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world of natural philosophy to
such a degree that the entire

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18th century, so the following
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as a confirmation of what Newton
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HEATHER BIRKETT: However,
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of Isaac's encounter, gravity
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occupied many of his thoughts.

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DR CORNELIUS SCHILT: He's much
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makes his own reflecting
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thinking about gravity.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: But for some
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his apple inspiration, suddenly
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to gravity.

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DR CORNELIUS SCHILT: Out of the
blue he drops everything that

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he's doing, and he starts
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HEATHER BIRKETT: The Principia,
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Philosophiae Naturalis Principia
Mathematica, was a three-volume

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publication where Newton first
described his theory for the

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universal law of gravitation.

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But for Newton himself, and for
those in his closest circle, his

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world-changing ideas needed a
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JENNIE JOHNS: I don't think that
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as automatically assumed that
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would be. He needed the help of
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HEATHER BIRKETT: This is Jennie
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after Newton's home at
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JENNIE JOHNS: It's quite
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difficult person. There's a
well-known feud with a fellow

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scientist, a German scientist
called Leibniz, that they had a

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difficult relationship.
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the Royal Society.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: To the Newton
family, Isaac was forever

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destined to look after the farm
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JENNIE JOHNS: He was born here
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father pre-deceased him and
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grandmother after his mother
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manor and therefore didn't
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socialise much with the local
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And it's documented that when he
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teenager in Grantham, at the
King's School, he got into a

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playground argument with a
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because at the time, he wasn't a
great student, he was at the

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bottom of his class, not because
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just distracted by other things
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Today, if- we would really
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probably really excited to see
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strange and different.

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But look what he turned into.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: These feuds and
fallings out ran as a continuous

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theme throughout his life. As he
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lessened, but the truculent
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Deep down, Newton was a very
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A biography from Oxford
University noting that; "Even in

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his maturity, having become
rich, famous, laden with honours

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and internationally acclaimed as
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thinkers, he remained deeply
insecure, given to fits of

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depression and outbursts of
violent temper, implacable in

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pursuit of anyone by whom he
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While we can never truly know
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mind, we can, however, say with
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Newton's was full of ideas, but
that he himself felt alone and

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unable to share them with
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That was until he met the
astronomer, Edmund Halley.

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Halley had been working on a
theory that there must be a

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force that allowed planets to be
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A force which allowed for their
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predictability. Halley had
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were quickly dismissed without
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Keen to find a solution, Halley
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Isaac Newton was working as a
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The pair had met briefly before
in London and had shared some

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letters theorising the movement
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meeting that set in motion the
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When presented with the
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the way that they do, Newton
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Halley was stunned, and Newton
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reassured that his thoughts and
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praise he knew they deserved.

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Halley continued to encourage
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next 18 months, and in April of
1686, his works were presented

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to the Royal Society.

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JENNIE JOHNS: And he presented
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other scholars, and it was
slated. It was heavily

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criticised. So he said, right,
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I won't publish it. That's it.
Never talk about it again.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: One of the
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named Robert Hooke, was leading
the claim that this work had

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been plagiarised, putting Newton
into a position he was deeply

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uncomfortable with.

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Newton's immediate response was
to withdraw and threaten to pull

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part of his manuscripts away
from publication.

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Some months passed, and
thankfully, with some more

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gentle persuasion and the
resolve of his friend Edmund

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Halley, Newton was finally
warmed back to the idea that his

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thoughts were worthwhile.

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Robert Hooke's claims were never
held up, and in June of the same

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year, the Principia was given
the go-ahead to be published and

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printed from the Royal Society.

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KEITH MOORE: However, tracking
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was up to at that time, it had,
the year before, published a

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very good book, not as good as
Newton's, and that was John Ray

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and Francis Willoughby's History
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HEATHER BIRKETT: This is Keith
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the Royal Society Library.

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Although the book had been given
the green light, there was no

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money to pay for it to get
through the printers.

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KEITH MOORE: The Society's
finances were somewhat

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embarrassed, shall we say. It
meant that they couldn't afford

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to print Newton's Principia
Mathematica.

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That meant Halley got the job of
doing it and paying the costs as

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well.

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So, Halley is really a
scientific hero because he made

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it possible for Principia
Mathematica to appear.

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HEATHER BIRKETT: So, Principia
had finally made it into the

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world, and with it, a brand new
understanding of how the

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universe behaves.

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Today, we remember Isaac Newton
and a chance happening in an

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orchard for unlocking many of
the scientific ideas that we

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hold in the present.

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The simple act of an apple
falling to the ground became the

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perfect and understandable
symbol of how our planets and

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stars align under the force of
gravity.

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Pips from Newton's Apple tree
have now grown into plants of

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their own in the gardens at the
Eden Project, the United Nations

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in Vienna, and back at home
alongside the original at

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Woolsthorpe Manor.

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As for Edmund Halley, he used
his friend's workings to predict

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the movement and appearance of
one of the most well-known

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comets in the sky, Halley's
Comet.

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And in case you're wondering, he
was eventually repaid by the

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Royal Society for fronting the
costs to have the Principia

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published in unsold copies of
The History of Fishes.

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Thank you for listening to the
National Trust Podcast. To find

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out more about Isaac Newton and
his life at Woolsthorpe, please

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take a look at the links in our
show notes.

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from me, Heather Birkett,
goodbye.

