Mountain State Mysteries contains adult content that may not be suitable for all audiences.

Listener discretion is advised. I'm your host Mark and I'm Courtney and this is Mountain State Mysteries.

The Case or I guess we should say cases we have for you today is actually every single case

from season two that we've covered. We wanted to take some time out of our day and kind of gear up

for season three by just doing a look back on all of our previous episodes in season two of

Mountain State Mysteries. So I think it's kind of safe to say for Courtney and I the best part of

doing this is getting to be the voices for the victims and their families because a lot of the

time they don't get to have a voice in this because the media kind of just forgets about them

and it kind of drives me crazy that that happens but it's while we're here we're getting to be

their voices. And one thing I can say for certain about this is if you don't have money

you don't get that much exposure or if it's not something massive or something of that nature

you're not going to get exposure and I feel a lot of these people don't get the justice that they

deserve or the exposure that they deserve so. I think it's safe to say Courtney and I never thought

we would be where we are today with season two so I mean we're gearing up for season three right

now and in all honesty we just want to say thank you from the bottom of our hearts for

following, downloading, listening, giving us feedback on all of our episodes so far.

So the case that started off season two of Mountain State Mysteries was the case of Angela

Shreese-Wynne Stevens. Shreese-Wynne missing on October 1st 1993 from Bolt West Virginia.

Only thing I can say about this case is if anybody out there has information on this case

and you're not coming forward with it then shame on you because this girl's family and friends

have been almost 31 years wanting information and I know that there's somebody out there in this area

or nearby areas that know what happened to Shreese and where she is exactly located at

and if you have that information you need to come forth. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Now one thing that happened is we honestly had no idea that we know people who like grew up with

Shreese and know Shreese so we got talking to them and one girl Courtney and I both work with

she was you know telling me about the case and you know how it really like impacted her her

family because they were family friends with the Gwends and she said that is one case that she

like wishes could get solved today and we have both heard certain stories that we're not going to

say because we aren't sure like how true they are but there are people out there who know

something about this case and it's just time that it comes clean and just give the justice for

Shreese and her family. Now I don't remember if we talked about this in the episode because

it's been a while I don't know if we talked about this in the case or not. I want to say we did but

don't remember about the helicopter. No we didn't. Courtney and I I forget what the original first

episode was going to be was it Margie Dodd? No it was always going to be Shreese. It was definitely

always going to be Shreese for Season R Ipner. And Season R Ipner. Season our Season Ipner

was always going to be Shreese. I think what like solidified it was us seeing the helicopter fly

around town and being told that it was over a certain area for like two days in a row.

And if you're from our area then you'll know exactly what we're talking about. Oh yeah so

we have heard that there was a tip recently put in and that's why they were you know in the

helicopter so we aren't sure how far that tip went what all happened what not. We also want to say

thank you to our little source that told us where her car was where the impound lot was because we

weren't sure in all honesty where it was in the beginning we thought it might have been in Charleston

but then we found out it was right here in Beckley and her car has been searched through it has

I mean it hasn't moved in years because there's rust all over it but her car was searched like

it has been searched thoroughly but I feel since it was sold like the second it just magically appeared

at UPS it's been wiped clean and stuff I just I don't that is just such a crazy story. You know 100%

that car was searched and it was cleaned out and all traces of it evidence was wiped away. Yeah and

I'm not sure if we can say if this case will ever be solved I want it to be. I pray to God

that this case gets solved but I feel like it will take certain people to talk to get this case

covered. Oh absolutely and again if you have information you need to come forth.

Any information will help anything will help come forth.

The second case we covered was the Hood Family Massacre that occurred on October 31st,

1909 in Beckley, West Virginia. This case which I actually found out where it was located at.

The house was oh my god I'm drawing blank. I want to say it's like where the policemen's pool was

so it like wasn't near the church but it was like right around the area of the policemen's pool.

Oh that's a little bit of a hike to get to that church. Absolutely. You don't think the church

could have been moved? No from what I've read the church that was originally there they rebuilt

where it was. Okay so I mean yeah I mean that's a pretty good little distance. Yeah I mean for

back in that day I mean it's like five minutes like by car now if not even five minutes it's

really just up the road but I mean that's still I mean oh wait no no no no no it wasn't um where

the policemen's pool was it's where Mickey's was. It's still a pretty good hike. Yeah it was like

where Mickey's was and whatever that like strip mall is I think it's like a gambling place now.

Oh yeah get all shy and yeah it's um it was right there and I mean that is a trek I mean.

That is I mean from there to Mount Tabor walking. Were there cars invented then?

Yeah there was but cars were so expensive that a majority of people just didn't have them it was

like a luxury for a lot of people. I feel stupid asking that but because then I answer my own

question saying yeah but um we have visited this grave multiple times and it's honestly like so sad

seeing like all of the names of everyone because all four of the members of the Hood family are

in one grave basically and and they're immediate family members are buried right next to Amos.

So yeah and um that um graveyard I want to say it's like one of our favorites to visit because

we do tend to take a break from podcasting from researching from writing from going on location

to just visit graveyards. And in all honesty we actually learned a lot when we go visit these

graveyards um a little interesting tidbit about where the Hood family is buried is there is actually

a grave right behind it. The grave. That has um a member of the KKK buried directly behind them.

And we can say the grave has been defaced multiple times not by us. It has been

been vandalized um his wife is buried right next to him and things of that nature there's that.

The only thing we've done to the grave is blurred out in pictures because yes because we're not

going to recognize nothing of that nature. No um other things that we have seen um the beautiful

headstone of the infant that is buried there and her name I believe I want to say her name was Pearl.

Yes Pearl. And she's in the seashell. Yeah they have her um headstone. In the clamshell.

Is there anything else we want to talk about this case? I really wish we had more information on this

case. This was actually a really difficult case to cover because where it was so old. It's our

oldest case we've ever covered right. I want to say yes. Yeah I mean early 1900s. 1909. Yeah I mean

this case is well over a hundred years old. And it's really not that talked about in town. It's

really not there's not a whole lot of information online about it anything of that nature um but

it's I'm going to consider it one of the oldest and soft ones that Doria's.

So after this I was actually on vacation and I took my podcast equipment because I'm like

there's going to be something happen. I know there's going to be an update on it. In case you

can ask Courtney I'm like should I take my equipment in case there's an update. I like do it really

quick and like just upload because I don't want anything to go for so long and there not be an

update. And I literally said no don't do that. Enjoy your vacation. And on day two there was an update

that I needed to bring you guys. It was an update on the case of Judy Petty which

if you know anything about the case of Judy Petty she was found basically in a house fire dead

on her parents farm in Parkersburg and her murderer has still not been found. There has been new

suspects so sadly you know there hasn't really been any new updates in Judy's case that I have

seen since you know I released this episode and you know I hate to end you know this kind of

look back on this sad note but Judy's father actually passed away last week the you know week

before we are the week before we are recording this so you know I really feel for her family right

now because they have lost two people and you know our sympathy definitely goes out to the Petty

family and you know we really hope that he finally knows what happened to Judy and that he's reunited

with her. Awesome prayers to this family.

The third case we covered was the murderer of a matriarch Juliet Buffington Enzlo who was

murdered on October 16th 1936. I think it's safe to say we can both say who murdered her.

Damn straight. And it was her son I forget his name but it was her son. Mm-hmm he was definitely

addicted. Yeah I forget what medicine was he on. It was a pain pill. Yeah it was like a. I don't

necessarily know if it was morphine. It was morphine yeah. Um but. It sounds right I could be

totally wrong I have a history being wrong but I feel like it was morphine. Yeah it was out there

he was definitely addicted and absolutely he just he done it I mean that's just all there is to it.

Charles that's his name it's Charles Charles it was in my notes and I just did not look down

but yeah I think he just did it for like a quick buck and accesses pills. Absolutely. Which this is

a spoiler for season three of Mountain State Mysteries we are actually covering Juliet's first cousin

who is named after her so that's a little hint for season three that's all you get

it's just a little hint. It's almost like a curse. Yeah that that family I mean my god that family I

can just say this the family of the Juliet's like it I feel for them because I'm not sure if any of

them are still around I want to say possibly great grandchildren are maybe grandchildren

for some of them but um yeah it's just like a very sad story.

The fourth case we covered was the missing bank teller the disappearance of Margaret Margie Dodd

who disappeared from Beaver West Virginia September 7th 1977.

Sadly there are no new updates other than I feel like we said this in the episode that there are

new leads brought in because someone thinks that someone related to them had something to do with

the case. Did we say that? I can't read. It sounds right it sounds good. They thought Margie's body

was James Lee Haynes body in the beginning until they kind of paid more attention to it and they saw

that um there was like female belongings with it and it is crazy but the guy who actually found her

they arrested him because he was crossing over into Wyoming County to hunt I want to say it

might have been bow season and he couldn't hunt in Raleigh County so he had to go into Wyoming

County to hunt and to be honest I don't even think he spent a night in jail it was probably a few

hours maybe a night and they're like you found this body you're good to go your record has been

wiped clean you're free and what's so crazy about this one too is for the fact of how they did not

want to run DNA on her oh yeah no they wanted to run it on every single other everybody else every

other person but not Margie no like it's just so it frustrates me yeah it frustrates me too because

I'm like this case could have been solved back in like 93 instead of oh god what year was it I thank

you for 96 before they ran her DNA no it was like 2017 I think when Google that I want to say it was

2017 when they like finally had her husband come in and look this this episode might be

chaotic we might have to redo it she was identified July 2017 and she was discovered November 24th

1993 23 years yeah so like they let her remains and her belong they hold on they actually lost

her belongings so her husband had to come in and just look at a picture and he knew in three seconds

that it was Margie and I don't know if I've told you this but my uncle Bill actually like met Margie

because where he used to work he had to take like the money from like the shift or whatever to that

bank and Margie would wait on him all the time he said she was the nicest woman ever and also

another thing about this case we made the drop oh yeah like it's not changed it hasn't changed

that timeline makes no sense yeah there is no way in the world that nobody around

could have seen or not gave a better description yeah which I don't know if the houses were behind

the emico station even at that are their houses behind the emico station today yes okay I know

they've tore some down in there but I can see like where she's parked it where like wherever she

would have been parked it could have been hard but still I feel like there should have been more seen

in all honesty I don't know why but I just get a feeling there was a flight that was put up

oh uh they said she was screaming and one and I'm here to tell you right now even with the area

that that wasn't yet I mean it's a high traffic area even today heard a blood curdling scream

you're going to step out and you're going to investigate I mean I would do that today no

matter where I am well depending on the area I'm in and I mean I'm not sure then but I mean even

like we have been in beaver around the time where she was abducted and there's cars everywhere

absolutely so there is always traffic going through there always I feel somebody more could

have seen the information and I'm here to tell you right now if you were around in that time period

and you happen to remember this case and you were driving through beaver that day you should

definitely come up and just say some forward come forward this is the point to where it's so

ridiculous if this was one of your loved ones you would want anybody with any information

to give it and this is no different I don't know I wish they could have found her purse I'm not sure

if it was with her if it was just disposed somewhere else but I do know one of the psychic said and

like I fully believe all of these psychic seeing the Margie because I mean they all kind of had

the same story so and like they were from different locations I mean they didn't know each other but

they a few of them said that Margie's purse like everything fell out and they like hurried up and

like scooped it all back in so there could have been DNA on everything in that purse that they

could have found her absolutely

the fifth case was the disappearance of the solder children December 24th 1945

let me start off by saying this was one of the hardest cases not because you know there isn't

enough information out there because there is so much information and we try to have such a

normal we try to have every episode the same length in some way shape or form and this episode

this could have been like a mini series to be quite honest if we want to go in depth it could

have been a mini series and we can also say to other than Cherise this is one of our most highly

requested cases oh yeah we've had multiple people come up like literally come up to us and ask us

yeah when are you covering the solders when are you covering the solders oh my god are you guys

going to cover the solders and i mean we were on the fence about it it wasn't in the original lineup

for season two um it was kind of in the little group of episodes like are we going to cover them

because yeah and finally so many people just yeah done it that we were just like might as well just

go ahead and do it yeah and i mean right now there's only two cases that we will not touch

and we won't say what they are but we can both fully agree that we aren't going to touch well three

yeah there's like three cases we won't cover and um it's not because like we don't believe in them

we don't want their voices out it's everyone's covered and one of them has been covered so well

by another podcast that we're like there's just we can't do it no we could not give that

that entire case the justice it would deserve no and the whole thing with this case is like

what mark was saying with all the information that was out there oh speaking of all the information

that's out there i don't know if i told you this but i found out that the veyatt county

sheriff's department still has the case files on this case it doesn't shock me it does it does me

because they like to just lose a lot of things in a few there's a lot of things that just magically

disappear there is so much information out there on this case it made it so hard yeah to piece things

together yeah for this case to even make sense and i mean as crazy as that sounds like she's not

wrong i mean this is probably the second longest we've ever spent on an episode it was what two

months of working on it it was i mean it was to get the timeline correct to get the um research

and down in charleston where they said that there was a sighting of the children yeah we we ended up

seeing that there was an author that just came out with a book we got the book we read the book and

it's a very good book but even that and all the other timelines things just

didn't make sense yeah but the book did help the most i can say because

it has stuff from the solder family that is still here and still alive there's like pictures that

really haven't been released yet and all of this and another thing too with it is like

when we say this case has been covered so much i mean like the smithsonian wrote articles about

this yeah there is numerous news stories out there about it local news stories about it

but so much and even to this day nothing makes sense nothing makes sense and the fact i think

we can actually agree on what we think the reasoning of all of this was oh absolutely i think it was

a mafia hit 100 fully believe that 100 percent we actually visited the graves and i thank god for

our friends castin chaz because if it wasn't for them going out the evening prior before me and

Courtney ended up in oak hill we would have been searching in the huge graveyard that the solder

family is in for hours and another thing we discovered too when we went to the cemetery was

after the children went missing mr and mrs solder had another child who sadly passed away

and never knew that never knew that until we got the name off of the grave and

a bunch of them are buried together however there's only one that isn't it was the son

that was in the military that wasn't able to come home and he was in fayetteville is where he was

and i think one of the daughters the youngest daughter is buried i want to say maybe st albin's

is where she's buried oh yeah she's buried with her family yeah so is there one in charleston

yeah yeah so i mean there's only three that isn't buried together but all the rest of them are buried

together

the sixth case we covered was the murder of john eric farley and the disappearance of mazy may

sygman palmer from july 14 1979 in trove some west virginia yet again another case where nothing

adds up oh my god this case no sense yeah and there really isn't anything on it there's no some

articles there's a youtube video um and trying to find photos of the places that they were supposedly

at yeah oh my it's almost near impossible i mean we have looked at so many photos of downtown charleston

the area that they were in and south charleston or west side of charleston i mean we looked about

every old photo that there was and nothing yeah nothing i mean even even googling the name of the

old nightclub brought nothing which i think it's safe to say this is another case that we can

clearly say who we think did it and it was the ex-boyfriend i forget his name which i know sounds

awful because i can literally name someone from like 20 years ago that i met but um it was her

ex-boyfriend and i fully believe that to this day now what we do wonder is where mazy's body is

because john's body was found and i'm wondering if there was any dna on him i'm not sure i know

west virginia really isn't up on the dna system i really want them to get into like the 23 and me um

codus namus all that stuff but um i know there is a lot of funding in dna and

this is a shameless plug i do not care to plug this because it's such an amazing organization

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investigates you know one of the best true crime podcasters out there she founded season of justice

and it honestly is one of the best things anyone could ever do because it funds dna tests and

then they have got to close a few cases if not a lot like because it takes a while for dna testing

to get done so if there's any law enforcement out there listening look up season of justice you

know you can go in say you're a police officer your family you can get dna tested in no time and

then you know you could solve the case but yeah i'm not sure if there was any dna on john's body or not

we took a little break in october to do some state haunt episodes i think was it i was busy

with work so i did not get to do any of the state haunts you got to do the trailer with me and then

that was pretty much it then you kind of just fell off the earth for a little bit like we

maybe texted once or twice a day that's how busy you were yeah she was all over the state of west

virginia then yeah i've been from october to probably last week last week um but i do know

i did get to help research a little bit on wizard clip um cabin 13 was up at um papcock yeah wizard

clip sorry i was you know distracted for a second but wizard clip such a crazy story and we both want

to go to that town because they say that town is like frozen in time yeah and like you can go to the

area where everything happened i think there's like trails and stuff and there's like statues and

all that so i would love to take a trip it's just like far up there mm-hmm yeah it's like the case of

baby christian we really want to go to harper's fairy but it's like so far up there and it's like

it's honestly hours from us yes so you know we do plan on doing that we do plan on doing that one day

um cabin 13 crazy story i think we may stay in the cabin this summer with some friends

so a little fun fact um my mother worked with the guy who murdered his wife there oh yeah um

my mother um we attended church of god and my mother was always like a camp counselor or she

done the music um one year she even like worked in the kitchen all this stuff and my mom actually

worked with the guy who committed the murder and she 100 remembers this guy and she remembers

his wife she remember his wife being like extremely quiet all that good stuff um but um yeah a little

the way i was just talking to her about it one day and my mom she just randomly starts bringing

this stuff up to me and i was like what did i withhold info deb and she was like well you never

really asked about it i love the deb your mom is like my mom she's a trip and my mom can pull a

story out yeah i'm nowhere i'm nowhere and it might be something that we're completely talking

about she'd be like oh yeah i forgot and it was pretty much how it was with this one yeah she was

like oh yeah i remember him his wife was really quiet a little tiny petite thing everything she was

like oh yeah i remember yeah and i have been in cabin 13 before and i was so young and it's

it's kind of weird and creepy how it happened because um i was with my mom all my cousin rachel

and montana we were just having a day there and right like oh let's go see cabin 13 so we kind of

just follow her and she like walks down the steps and next thing we know there's this couple walking

down the steps are like can we help you rachel's like are you staying here they're like um yeah do

you mind if we go in here and look there was a wife murdered here by her husband they're like

huh like we fully believe rachel traumatized their little like romantic getaway or their little

vacation could you imagine though if you're there for a romantic little getaway with your

spouse and then some random people just show up all by the way um there was a murder here i mean i

mean i feel like it might have weirded them out i know like me and you we would have been like

fascinated by them we're like oh my god have you to tell us more yeah um i think they like

reluctantly let us go in and rachel's like oh i feel something i'm like no she did and me and her

mom mama just stood outside because she's like i don't want to go in and me and montana were just

standing there in the doorway like this is as far as we're gonna go and rachel's like i feel something

which i mean it was a creepy cabin i'm crying but yeah right then at the end of it rachel's like

have a great night bye i swear i swear like i like i will literally i will call rachel right now

and she can tell you the story oh my god yeah i think the bed is like upstairs and you might have

to climb up a ladder or something like that or there's like stairs yeah yeah oh my god or the

third episode was lake shawnee which it's um crazy how this happened and i don't think i've ever

told you this story i was you know working and one day i looked up and i saw oh a z-cule bread

and i'm like oh that would be a great name for the lake shawnee case then when i did research for it

i'm like oh my god there was actually a guy one of their sons was named z-cule and i made him like

a ghost like this one and cabin 13 was kind of just full on me tapping into my creativity and like

telling a story then you know just telling you the actual ghost story and then the fourth and

final episode for state haunts was the trans-allegating lunatic asylum which in all honesty we could do

a totally new episode on maybe we will soon who knows but i went there in august because they

were doing a night tour on my birthday and i'm like might as well ring him you know 28 spooky

ugly boogalooly so um it was me my mom and my dad and it was honestly kind of like

miserably hot anytime i have ever been to weston i have frobes so what do i wear a sweat shirt

and sweatpants in the middle of august the dumbest decision i have ever made in my life

and i do not like to say my decisions are dumb because at the end of the day i make some good

decisions this was the dumbest one i've ever made and i literally looked at my mom i'm like

i wish i put a shirt on under this so i could take it off but no no i didn't but um i have been there

so many times i cannot even count on my hands on my fingers how many times i've been there

i took courtney there after a trip to pittsburgh while it should be a four four and a half hour

trip home turned it into ten and i want to say you kind of got fascinated with the location

after that so mine honestly mine has always been um i can remember one time we drove past it

we were going to morgan town and for whatever reason i remember we drove past it um and

truthfully i think that we're still fully operational when we went by yeah it was 95 up 95 96 i think it

was not it was 95 because it was same year i was born yeah so um we went by there and everything

and or maybe i'm thinking of the prison i think western was fully operational till 96 um but i

remember we would drive by there sometimes and um always i always wanted to get in there and stuff

because the building itself fascinated me but what fascinated me even more was learning so much about

the history 1994 sorry i just googled it was 94 we were both wrong for once continue sorry um but

going in there and then starting to talk about what all they would admit a person into the insane

asylum over is absolutely repulsive and we didn't even do the paranormal tour we just had the two

hour historic tour it was just a historical tour that we took um is repulsive and i think god the

strides that have been made in mental health but there's so much more strides that need to be taken

forth with it i mean if that makes sense in all honesty it's not even mental health like i could

literally turn you in for having classes in a nose ring right now i mean for two nose rings like it

could be like there was just so much with this and it was honestly it was deeply disturbing

what all and a majority of the patients there were women were a majority of it and for a woman to

have her husband committed she would actually have to go before the board which was nothing but men

to try to prove it however a man could have a woman committed if he was having an affair on

his wife he could have her committed over that and then move on with his life with his mistress

i mean it's things of that nature i mean you aren't so much all about the medicine you learn

about the history and the people who ran it you learn all about lobotomies and i believe they said

at one point they were doing over a hundred lobotomies a day yeah something like that they were doing that

many lobotomies and um they described to us how the lobotomies were done there's actual photos

of it set up in there of how it's done um they would talk to us about the criminally insane

floor and how the nurses would not walk side by side but rather it would be back to back

that way there was somebody protecting and watching the entire time and they actually

said that they would actually prefer to go on the men's side of the criminally insane as opposed to

the women's and i think the craziest thing of it all was the um where we went into the room

where the murder happened yeah and um there was a man there and he was very special needs i think

they said he had the mentality of a five-year-old five six-year-old something of that nature and um

three guys was one guy who was actually getting pissed off about what was happening

and with him and he just didn't like the guy so he um actually talked to other guys into

hanging him yeah they would hang him and as soon as he would lose consciousness they would bring

him down he would come back to conscious in the end they would rehang him and the guy got fed up

they done this like two or three times and he picked up the bed and crushed it through the man's

um yeah they like jumped on it and stuff yeah and they said we could either call the police and him

be put on trial for the murder and him be declared um mentally insane and not be competent enough

to stay in trial or we clean up the mess and we inform the family and that's what they did they

cleaned up the mess and they informed the family and the guy was moved to another mental hospital

which i believe this it is just a few miles up from where weston is let me talk about that one

can you believe i have a story about that doesn't shock me so my nanny and poppaw went up there to

visit some family friends um and the guy was in the hospital and they just pull up into this building

and they're like my nanny didn't say it at the time but she was thinking like why is there so many

government vehicles in this parking lot like what's going on so they get out you know not paying any

attention to signage anything like that and one of the guys was like can i help you i hope

we're here to visit so and so they're like you're not allowed in here this is the mental hospital

and nanny's like that explains a lot so yeah they you know left the parking lot and went to the right

hospital but um me and emmy we actually did the kremlein same building tour that building is so

so creepy in so many levels not because you know charles manson was there for a lost in but

just it's you had to shower him like basically in front of everyone and like

it's much different than the actual asylum like the building and the glass reminds me of one of

the buildings and house of wax and it was just it was honestly creepy to go like they had cuts

basically just lined up there was no like i think there might have been some rooms for like

patients or criminals and stuff but it was mostly just cuts lined up another thing too about this

is for the fact that this hospital was built just to take a little over a hundred patients max

and then at one point they had over 1200 patients there should we talk about how it's on 666 acres

of land that and then we also um discovered that there is a cemetery on there that we didn't know

about no i knew about the cemetery i didn't know they did cemetery tours so i'm down to do a cemetery

same

so in the middle of state haunts there was a major update in the case of gretchen flaming

which was the case that we were kind of referring to in judy petty's case

i fully believe that you know there could be a connection between both of them and

we actually have a trip to parkersburg planned very very soon and courtney has been there way

more than me here recently and which church is it do you remember i cannot remember the church

i just randomly remember passing by the church um it really struck me that they have a huge

missing banner of gretchen flaming in the front yard of the church and um i

i there are no new updates since we released the update episode but we can say that this

case has not left the table for police officers and i think every single day they go through

every single week that they get um the main suspect has been dragged on facebook if he

is seen in public there are pictures of him and i i fully i think he's across state lines

i think he's still close by but i think he's over in ohaha across the state border i want to say

i've seen recently that he was seen in ohio i could be wrong or maybe in another part of the state

but i i fully feel for gretchen's family i do too i'm happy that they have gotten out and spoke

about her case on tv it is on investigation discovery if you guys have that um so please

go watch it it was the main source for this episode but um i do feel one day there will be

the resolution to this case and i hope to god there is justice served but um that that is one

day that is hopefully going to happen really soon because i know officer zimmerman has basically

this case just under wraps in the best way possible like in one of the episodes in the episode

we had no idea that they you know searched the whale or the water tower and you know that was

one of the main things so i fully believe this case is looked into each and every single day and it's

i feel like they just start their own task force for this which is the best thing possible for them

the next episode was actually a one-year anniversary episode

and we were told for more info on nelly and ray's case and again we can talk about this case non-stop

we talk about it once a week once a month something like that yeah we talk a lot over it and we now

fully believe that nelly was just murdered because she was there literally she was murdered for no

reason no reason and she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time yeah and i'm happy this case

has gotten coverage on it since there was an episode on kindred spirits since kindred spirits did

an episode we actually got to watch that episode at black knight um and then we kind of just got a

search of the entire building which the upstairs is insane yeah um there was actually apartments

up there we didn't know if that was true or not but there was actually apartments up there and um the

biggest thing that was confirmed was there was an illegal gambling ring going on and we have

learned that ray owed people a lot of money yes and we believe that's why he was taken out and i

know that sounds awful but his we we've heard new things on this case that we will not release

because we do not know if it's true or not and because we have heard that this person goes after

people who mention it so we will not mention it but there is a suspect that i fully believe and

i fully believe that you know it could be true what yeah um we have both read the book by adniss

keely 20 times each probably yeah and agnes has done such a great job on it and she is such an

amazing person every time i see her she like gives me a big hug yeah um agnes is truly honestly a gym

she is like she messaged me so much when i was in the hospital no way yeah she even messaged me

and like checking on me and see how i was doing and everything i absolutely love agnes and yes

we gotta meet nellie's great nephew which is like one of the best things ever yeah and ray's family

is actually still in town yes and another thing that we have actually started doing ourselves is

we do like a little tour tour um to where the murders happened we show where the people live

where the car was located cars located uh where their bodies were depth as close as we can yeah

because federal prison property kind of can't go across the you know gate and trust me do not think

that i had not brainstormed of how we could go in oh i mean technically we could but it's only like

one day a year yeah i mean i have literally like brainstormed yeah and trust me i would have got

in there but i had to work that day and i couldn't call off because it was a wednesday yeah but um

um this can we go to the cemetery too yeah we we end up to cemetery always or depending on the time

of day yeah we'll either begin at the cemetery or end yes um yeah this case it's always gonna say

near and dear to our heart yes the seventh case we covered was the murder of cleo birdette this

was a crazy ride of a case too yeah it randomly just i forget how we found it but it was so random

and i think i found it online i want to say it was one that you brought to me and i'm like yes we

have to cover this because it's never been covered before on a podcast the only thing i've ever seen

on it was um a new station in trellston i don't know if they still do it or not but back in the day

they would look into certain cases and tell the story do the interviews and it is honestly just

so crazy what all happened and i feel like this is sadly one of the cases i can say there may never

be justice no because i fully believe he was just murdered because they knew he had money at the time

yep that is just one of the saddest things ever

the eighth episode that we covered was the murder of nicole don margley from february first 2003

this case is one that i found hard to cover because there wasn't much info on it like most of the

cases but the family posting on facebook made it so easier because there's not many facebook pages

out there for cases or for victims and i fully believe that like one point in time they did have

um the suspect but because there wasn't enough evidence they let him go and he has been free

ever since and what was so sad was the fact that she had a very young child but kind of the good

thing in it in a way is that her family has kept they definitely kept her memory alive yes and her

son knows a lot about his mother they celebrate her birthday every single year they have a cake for

he blows out the candles yes and again if you have information regarding this case come forward

come forward help somebody

are we ready for this one i think so miss leah hickman case nine and ten

he was last seen december 14th 2007 and her body was found december 21st 2007

so let's just go ahead and start this off this case was a wild ride this is another case that

took forever to look through because it's just there is so much and this is the first case

we have ever even read like referenced this is the first case we have ever referenced reddit

web sleuths just for the simple fact that it's just like not like relevant in other cases

and this is one that we definitely have our own theory on oh yeah oh yeah and i feel like we talked

about that in the episode yeah i mean this was a case that made absolutely no sense whatsoever

just the way the apartment was laid out yeah they were on the top floor and what was so sad about

this case was leah's bed was set up it was a blow-up mattress set up on milk crates yeah

and there was only one other person there the other two um the other three rooms were vacant

were vacant because the one guy was in florida yeah no there was four so it hers and then the owner

he was in florida and then two more but yeah you're right yeah yeah yeah he was in florida

and there was somebody coming in there somebody had to know the layout and how that apartment was

because the laundry room was down in a basement and the crawl space like it has been said i mean

police didn't even know about the crawl space and it is said you have to live there to know about the

crawl space so our theory kind of stands still that i fully believe it could have been an ex-boyfriend

that called a certain someone not pointing fingers at her sister to hide the body and from the serial

killer letter it makes perfect perfect sense because someone you care about you would not want their

body to get dirty so you would wrap them up in a clear tarp that is there for maintenance yes

and the whole other thing too about this case is it was a two-parter yeah and we're working on

getting things better for a two-parter or possibly like a little mini series about cases and things

of that no oh i want to say i'm sorry for the music pauses for the one person that complained

but i would say this much the reason why i was not participating on this one

was i was sick and in the hospital and mark had to record i thought you were just working again

no no i got looking at the dates on here and this is when i was in the hospital okay this is when i

was in the hospital so um just think jesus said i was better oh yeah was it oh yeah

so

case 11 was the case of chandice cochran who has been missing since august 20th 2019

this case was brought forward to us twice which i was oblivious and completely missed the first one

but it was in a facebook message and then we got an email about it yeah and i want to say thank you

to the two people that reached out to us because they fully put this case in line for us and this

case was going to be in season three but we decided to just go ahead and bring it forth yeah just felt

it was the right time and there is a facebook page for chandice that her mother runs and i have

my heart breaks for her mother and one of the big things too was the gas station the gas station

and fun fact we will pass that tomorrow and you're going to see what a distance it is oh yeah we will

won't be yeah we will definitely pass it um tomorrow and um yeah i'm not sure if there's going to be any

updates in this case or not i have my theory on it oh i fully do too but i have my theory i think we

had the same theory but yeah i just i don't know i wish there could be justice but

again certain people need to speak up for this absolutely

and then our 12th case our hardest case we have ever covered to this day

was the case of natasha alex carter court and you want to take it from here and tell them

a few things we missed out on so um again um alex was my little cousin or what we

affectionately called her was al a lot of times we called her al and um

um she never went by natasha never never she always went by alex and um

and some of the things that i left out in this case was how um we my family my grandmother

particularly had hired private investigators bounty hunters anytime that there was about to be a

break in the case it just stopped it went dead cold dead cold um

um my grandmother has spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to locate alex um the private

investigator um i just know his name is cliff and so i renew his name as and it was just like one

day he just like fell off the face of the earth like everything just stopped with it um

and then a few years beforehand um it was actually really sad they thought that they

found alex in ohio really i never knew yeah they thought that they found her and she was alive and

um it wasn't her wasn't her at all and um again um the homeland security was looking into the

amount of missing children out there and that's how alex's case came back forth and um the fbi

was someone out of pittsburgh who reopened alex's case with it um which props to them they have

really they have done so much in my family well forever for they have done an amazing job for it um

um i bet like um it was so funny um mark he came and picked me up one evening and he was

right after the fbi herrated larry webbs house yeah and we've been up there and mark is like

am i going to have to like the windows am i going to have to lock the doors and i was like yep that

this man has lived his life free lived his life and alex's life got cut out for 10 years of age

but you know at 10 years of age i feel like he won't be living free for too long no

and now we can kind of give a little sneak peek a little look into season three

mountain state mysteries which we can say is premiering on may 10th 2024 may 10th 24 um

it's our biggest season yet we are going outside of west virginia for a few cases um one of them

we dare promise y'all and that one is a very very crazy story in and of itself episode one is probably

going to be our longest episode ever um or i should say our longest episode yet yes it's crazy nothing

adds up me and courtney can literally go on a rabbit hole on this case we are going to be doing a lot

of extra things for this season we have a few few events coming up which we will post about so you

guys come out and see us grab some mountain state mysteries merch and all of that good stuff yeah but

we don't want to give too much away like we're not going to tell you like any episodes like we

are just going to give you hints and this is also going to be one of our largest seasons yeah it's

our biggest season yet there is so huge i mean we just kept on adding cases on the cases on the cases

and it got to the point where courtney's like mark we're not adding getting more but i'm like we

have to tell this case it's insane i was like we're in double digits major double digits well

we might get into more double digits after another case i just found

you know we have interviews this season which i'm so excited for you guys to hear

we are going on scene for some which i'm like really excited about because it just it lets you feel

the cases even more yes or get the feel of the cases i just say because

there's a lot of locations that we cannot go to due to the distance and all this and we're just like

well we kind of have the time because we do nothing else so i mean we do work but i'm like

we have days off so we are hitting the ground running for this season and it is going to be

insane yes and can i throw something in really quick if you ever have the chance to go up to

clark'sburg oh yeah go to the clark'sburg history museum yeah we love beth and all of them up there

it is absolutely one of the coolest things i have ever done and one of the reasons why i wanted to go

and i just happened to be in the area and was able to go one day without mark

yeah thanks for thinking of me it's fine i did think of you the entire time you had to admit

that i was thinking of you i would never do that to you where are you talking about so like we said

we will be returning may 10th 2024 with a crazy crazy case from parkersburg and marietta Ohio

so we will see you guys on may 10th stay tuned for our next episode because it's going to be the

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