Mountain State Mysteries contains adult content that may not be suitable for all audiences.
Listener discretion is advised. I'm your host Mark and I'm Courtney and this is Mountain State Mysteries.
The Case or I guess we should say cases we have for you today is actually every single case
from season two that we've covered. We wanted to take some time out of our day and kind of gear up
for season three by just doing a look back on all of our previous episodes in season two of
Mountain State Mysteries. So I think it's kind of safe to say for Courtney and I the best part of
doing this is getting to be the voices for the victims and their families because a lot of the
time they don't get to have a voice in this because the media kind of just forgets about them
and it kind of drives me crazy that that happens but it's while we're here we're getting to be
their voices. And one thing I can say for certain about this is if you don't have money
you don't get that much exposure or if it's not something massive or something of that nature
you're not going to get exposure and I feel a lot of these people don't get the justice that they
deserve or the exposure that they deserve so. I think it's safe to say Courtney and I never thought
we would be where we are today with season two so I mean we're gearing up for season three right
now and in all honesty we just want to say thank you from the bottom of our hearts for
following, downloading, listening, giving us feedback on all of our episodes so far.
So the case that started off season two of Mountain State Mysteries was the case of Angela
Shreese-Wynne Stevens. Shreese-Wynne missing on October 1st 1993 from Bolt West Virginia.
Only thing I can say about this case is if anybody out there has information on this case
and you're not coming forward with it then shame on you because this girl's family and friends
have been almost 31 years wanting information and I know that there's somebody out there in this area
or nearby areas that know what happened to Shreese and where she is exactly located at
and if you have that information you need to come forth. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Now one thing that happened is we honestly had no idea that we know people who like grew up with
Shreese and know Shreese so we got talking to them and one girl Courtney and I both work with
she was you know telling me about the case and you know how it really like impacted her her
family because they were family friends with the Gwends and she said that is one case that she
like wishes could get solved today and we have both heard certain stories that we're not going to
say because we aren't sure like how true they are but there are people out there who know
something about this case and it's just time that it comes clean and just give the justice for
Shreese and her family. Now I don't remember if we talked about this in the episode because
it's been a while I don't know if we talked about this in the case or not. I want to say we did but
don't remember about the helicopter. No we didn't. Courtney and I I forget what the original first
episode was going to be was it Margie Dodd? No it was always going to be Shreese. It was definitely
always going to be Shreese for Season R Ipner. And Season R Ipner. Season our Season Ipner
was always going to be Shreese. I think what like solidified it was us seeing the helicopter fly
around town and being told that it was over a certain area for like two days in a row.
And if you're from our area then you'll know exactly what we're talking about. Oh yeah so
we have heard that there was a tip recently put in and that's why they were you know in the
helicopter so we aren't sure how far that tip went what all happened what not. We also want to say
thank you to our little source that told us where her car was where the impound lot was because we
weren't sure in all honesty where it was in the beginning we thought it might have been in Charleston
but then we found out it was right here in Beckley and her car has been searched through it has
I mean it hasn't moved in years because there's rust all over it but her car was searched like
it has been searched thoroughly but I feel since it was sold like the second it just magically appeared
at UPS it's been wiped clean and stuff I just I don't that is just such a crazy story. You know 100%
that car was searched and it was cleaned out and all traces of it evidence was wiped away. Yeah and
I'm not sure if we can say if this case will ever be solved I want it to be. I pray to God
that this case gets solved but I feel like it will take certain people to talk to get this case
covered. Oh absolutely and again if you have information you need to come forth.
Any information will help anything will help come forth.
The second case we covered was the Hood Family Massacre that occurred on October 31st,
1909 in Beckley, West Virginia. This case which I actually found out where it was located at.
The house was oh my god I'm drawing blank. I want to say it's like where the policemen's pool was
so it like wasn't near the church but it was like right around the area of the policemen's pool.
Oh that's a little bit of a hike to get to that church. Absolutely. You don't think the church
could have been moved? No from what I've read the church that was originally there they rebuilt
where it was. Okay so I mean yeah I mean that's a pretty good little distance. Yeah I mean for
back in that day I mean it's like five minutes like by car now if not even five minutes it's
really just up the road but I mean that's still I mean oh wait no no no no no it wasn't um where
the policemen's pool was it's where Mickey's was. It's still a pretty good hike. Yeah it was like
where Mickey's was and whatever that like strip mall is I think it's like a gambling place now.
Oh yeah get all shy and yeah it's um it was right there and I mean that is a trek I mean.
That is I mean from there to Mount Tabor walking. Were there cars invented then?
Yeah there was but cars were so expensive that a majority of people just didn't have them it was
like a luxury for a lot of people. I feel stupid asking that but because then I answer my own
question saying yeah but um we have visited this grave multiple times and it's honestly like so sad
seeing like all of the names of everyone because all four of the members of the Hood family are
in one grave basically and and they're immediate family members are buried right next to Amos.
So yeah and um that um graveyard I want to say it's like one of our favorites to visit because
we do tend to take a break from podcasting from researching from writing from going on location
to just visit graveyards. And in all honesty we actually learned a lot when we go visit these
graveyards um a little interesting tidbit about where the Hood family is buried is there is actually
a grave right behind it. The grave. That has um a member of the KKK buried directly behind them.
And we can say the grave has been defaced multiple times not by us. It has been
been vandalized um his wife is buried right next to him and things of that nature there's that.
The only thing we've done to the grave is blurred out in pictures because yes because we're not
going to recognize nothing of that nature. No um other things that we have seen um the beautiful
headstone of the infant that is buried there and her name I believe I want to say her name was Pearl.
Yes Pearl. And she's in the seashell. Yeah they have her um headstone. In the clamshell.
Is there anything else we want to talk about this case? I really wish we had more information on this
case. This was actually a really difficult case to cover because where it was so old. It's our
oldest case we've ever covered right. I want to say yes. Yeah I mean early 1900s. 1909. Yeah I mean
this case is well over a hundred years old. And it's really not that talked about in town. It's
really not there's not a whole lot of information online about it anything of that nature um but
it's I'm going to consider it one of the oldest and soft ones that Doria's.
So after this I was actually on vacation and I took my podcast equipment because I'm like
there's going to be something happen. I know there's going to be an update on it. In case you
can ask Courtney I'm like should I take my equipment in case there's an update. I like do it really
quick and like just upload because I don't want anything to go for so long and there not be an
update. And I literally said no don't do that. Enjoy your vacation. And on day two there was an update
that I needed to bring you guys. It was an update on the case of Judy Petty which
if you know anything about the case of Judy Petty she was found basically in a house fire dead
on her parents farm in Parkersburg and her murderer has still not been found. There has been new
suspects so sadly you know there hasn't really been any new updates in Judy's case that I have
seen since you know I released this episode and you know I hate to end you know this kind of
look back on this sad note but Judy's father actually passed away last week the you know week
before we are the week before we are recording this so you know I really feel for her family right
now because they have lost two people and you know our sympathy definitely goes out to the Petty
family and you know we really hope that he finally knows what happened to Judy and that he's reunited
with her. Awesome prayers to this family.
The third case we covered was the murderer of a matriarch Juliet Buffington Enzlo who was
murdered on October 16th 1936. I think it's safe to say we can both say who murdered her.
Damn straight. And it was her son I forget his name but it was her son. Mm-hmm he was definitely
addicted. Yeah I forget what medicine was he on. It was a pain pill. Yeah it was like a. I don't
necessarily know if it was morphine. It was morphine yeah. Um but. It sounds right I could be
totally wrong I have a history being wrong but I feel like it was morphine. Yeah it was out there
he was definitely addicted and absolutely he just he done it I mean that's just all there is to it.
Charles that's his name it's Charles Charles it was in my notes and I just did not look down
but yeah I think he just did it for like a quick buck and accesses pills. Absolutely. Which this is
a spoiler for season three of Mountain State Mysteries we are actually covering Juliet's first cousin
who is named after her so that's a little hint for season three that's all you get
it's just a little hint. It's almost like a curse. Yeah that that family I mean my god that family I
can just say this the family of the Juliet's like it I feel for them because I'm not sure if any of
them are still around I want to say possibly great grandchildren are maybe grandchildren
for some of them but um yeah it's just like a very sad story.
The fourth case we covered was the missing bank teller the disappearance of Margaret Margie Dodd
who disappeared from Beaver West Virginia September 7th 1977.
Sadly there are no new updates other than I feel like we said this in the episode that there are
new leads brought in because someone thinks that someone related to them had something to do with
the case. Did we say that? I can't read. It sounds right it sounds good. They thought Margie's body
was James Lee Haynes body in the beginning until they kind of paid more attention to it and they saw
that um there was like female belongings with it and it is crazy but the guy who actually found her
they arrested him because he was crossing over into Wyoming County to hunt I want to say it
might have been bow season and he couldn't hunt in Raleigh County so he had to go into Wyoming
County to hunt and to be honest I don't even think he spent a night in jail it was probably a few
hours maybe a night and they're like you found this body you're good to go your record has been
wiped clean you're free and what's so crazy about this one too is for the fact of how they did not
want to run DNA on her oh yeah no they wanted to run it on every single other everybody else every
other person but not Margie no like it's just so it frustrates me yeah it frustrates me too because
I'm like this case could have been solved back in like 93 instead of oh god what year was it I thank
you for 96 before they ran her DNA no it was like 2017 I think when Google that I want to say it was
2017 when they like finally had her husband come in and look this this episode might be
chaotic we might have to redo it she was identified July 2017 and she was discovered November 24th
1993 23 years yeah so like they let her remains and her belong they hold on they actually lost
her belongings so her husband had to come in and just look at a picture and he knew in three seconds
that it was Margie and I don't know if I've told you this but my uncle Bill actually like met Margie
because where he used to work he had to take like the money from like the shift or whatever to that
bank and Margie would wait on him all the time he said she was the nicest woman ever and also
another thing about this case we made the drop oh yeah like it's not changed it hasn't changed
that timeline makes no sense yeah there is no way in the world that nobody around
could have seen or not gave a better description yeah which I don't know if the houses were behind
the emico station even at that are their houses behind the emico station today yes okay I know
they've tore some down in there but I can see like where she's parked it where like wherever she
would have been parked it could have been hard but still I feel like there should have been more seen
in all honesty I don't know why but I just get a feeling there was a flight that was put up
oh uh they said she was screaming and one and I'm here to tell you right now even with the area
that that wasn't yet I mean it's a high traffic area even today heard a blood curdling scream
you're going to step out and you're going to investigate I mean I would do that today no
matter where I am well depending on the area I'm in and I mean I'm not sure then but I mean even
like we have been in beaver around the time where she was abducted and there's cars everywhere
absolutely so there is always traffic going through there always I feel somebody more could
have seen the information and I'm here to tell you right now if you were around in that time period
and you happen to remember this case and you were driving through beaver that day you should
definitely come up and just say some forward come forward this is the point to where it's so
ridiculous if this was one of your loved ones you would want anybody with any information
to give it and this is no different I don't know I wish they could have found her purse I'm not sure
if it was with her if it was just disposed somewhere else but I do know one of the psychic said and
like I fully believe all of these psychic seeing the Margie because I mean they all kind of had
the same story so and like they were from different locations I mean they didn't know each other but
they a few of them said that Margie's purse like everything fell out and they like hurried up and
like scooped it all back in so there could have been DNA on everything in that purse that they
could have found her absolutely
the fifth case was the disappearance of the solder children December 24th 1945
let me start off by saying this was one of the hardest cases not because you know there isn't
enough information out there because there is so much information and we try to have such a
normal we try to have every episode the same length in some way shape or form and this episode
this could have been like a mini series to be quite honest if we want to go in depth it could
have been a mini series and we can also say to other than Cherise this is one of our most highly
requested cases oh yeah we've had multiple people come up like literally come up to us and ask us
yeah when are you covering the solders when are you covering the solders oh my god are you guys
going to cover the solders and i mean we were on the fence about it it wasn't in the original lineup
for season two um it was kind of in the little group of episodes like are we going to cover them
because yeah and finally so many people just yeah done it that we were just like might as well just
go ahead and do it yeah and i mean right now there's only two cases that we will not touch
and we won't say what they are but we can both fully agree that we aren't going to touch well three
yeah there's like three cases we won't cover and um it's not because like we don't believe in them
we don't want their voices out it's everyone's covered and one of them has been covered so well
by another podcast that we're like there's just we can't do it no we could not give that
that entire case the justice it would deserve no and the whole thing with this case is like
what mark was saying with all the information that was out there oh speaking of all the information
that's out there i don't know if i told you this but i found out that the veyatt county
sheriff's department still has the case files on this case it doesn't shock me it does it does me
because they like to just lose a lot of things in a few there's a lot of things that just magically
disappear there is so much information out there on this case it made it so hard yeah to piece things
together yeah for this case to even make sense and i mean as crazy as that sounds like she's not
wrong i mean this is probably the second longest we've ever spent on an episode it was what two
months of working on it it was i mean it was to get the timeline correct to get the um research
and down in charleston where they said that there was a sighting of the children yeah we we ended up
seeing that there was an author that just came out with a book we got the book we read the book and
it's a very good book but even that and all the other timelines things just
didn't make sense yeah but the book did help the most i can say because
it has stuff from the solder family that is still here and still alive there's like pictures that
really haven't been released yet and all of this and another thing too with it is like
when we say this case has been covered so much i mean like the smithsonian wrote articles about
this yeah there is numerous news stories out there about it local news stories about it
but so much and even to this day nothing makes sense nothing makes sense and the fact i think
we can actually agree on what we think the reasoning of all of this was oh absolutely i think it was
a mafia hit 100 fully believe that 100 percent we actually visited the graves and i thank god for
our friends castin chaz because if it wasn't for them going out the evening prior before me and
Courtney ended up in oak hill we would have been searching in the huge graveyard that the solder
family is in for hours and another thing we discovered too when we went to the cemetery was
after the children went missing mr and mrs solder had another child who sadly passed away
and never knew that never knew that until we got the name off of the grave and
a bunch of them are buried together however there's only one that isn't it was the son
that was in the military that wasn't able to come home and he was in fayetteville is where he was
and i think one of the daughters the youngest daughter is buried i want to say maybe st albin's
is where she's buried oh yeah she's buried with her family yeah so is there one in charleston
yeah yeah so i mean there's only three that isn't buried together but all the rest of them are buried
together
the sixth case we covered was the murder of john eric farley and the disappearance of mazy may
sygman palmer from july 14 1979 in trove some west virginia yet again another case where nothing
adds up oh my god this case no sense yeah and there really isn't anything on it there's no some
articles there's a youtube video um and trying to find photos of the places that they were supposedly
at yeah oh my it's almost near impossible i mean we have looked at so many photos of downtown charleston
the area that they were in and south charleston or west side of charleston i mean we looked about
every old photo that there was and nothing yeah nothing i mean even even googling the name of the
old nightclub brought nothing which i think it's safe to say this is another case that we can
clearly say who we think did it and it was the ex-boyfriend i forget his name which i know sounds
awful because i can literally name someone from like 20 years ago that i met but um it was her
ex-boyfriend and i fully believe that to this day now what we do wonder is where mazy's body is
because john's body was found and i'm wondering if there was any dna on him i'm not sure i know
west virginia really isn't up on the dna system i really want them to get into like the 23 and me um
codus namus all that stuff but um i know there is a lot of funding in dna and
this is a shameless plug i do not care to plug this because it's such an amazing organization
season of justice who was founded by athelah flowers from crime junkie the deck the deck
investigates you know one of the best true crime podcasters out there she founded season of justice
and it honestly is one of the best things anyone could ever do because it funds dna tests and
then they have got to close a few cases if not a lot like because it takes a while for dna testing
to get done so if there's any law enforcement out there listening look up season of justice you
know you can go in say you're a police officer your family you can get dna tested in no time and
then you know you could solve the case but yeah i'm not sure if there was any dna on john's body or not
we took a little break in october to do some state haunt episodes i think was it i was busy
with work so i did not get to do any of the state haunts you got to do the trailer with me and then
that was pretty much it then you kind of just fell off the earth for a little bit like we
maybe texted once or twice a day that's how busy you were yeah she was all over the state of west
virginia then yeah i've been from october to probably last week last week um but i do know
i did get to help research a little bit on wizard clip um cabin 13 was up at um papcock yeah wizard
clip sorry i was you know distracted for a second but wizard clip such a crazy story and we both want
to go to that town because they say that town is like frozen in time yeah and like you can go to the
area where everything happened i think there's like trails and stuff and there's like statues and
all that so i would love to take a trip it's just like far up there mm-hmm yeah it's like the case of
baby christian we really want to go to harper's fairy but it's like so far up there and it's like
it's honestly hours from us yes so you know we do plan on doing that we do plan on doing that one day
um cabin 13 crazy story i think we may stay in the cabin this summer with some friends
so a little fun fact um my mother worked with the guy who murdered his wife there oh yeah um
my mother um we attended church of god and my mother was always like a camp counselor or she
done the music um one year she even like worked in the kitchen all this stuff and my mom actually
worked with the guy who committed the murder and she 100 remembers this guy and she remembers
his wife she remember his wife being like extremely quiet all that good stuff um but um yeah a little
the way i was just talking to her about it one day and my mom she just randomly starts bringing
this stuff up to me and i was like what did i withhold info deb and she was like well you never
really asked about it i love the deb your mom is like my mom she's a trip and my mom can pull a
story out yeah i'm nowhere i'm nowhere and it might be something that we're completely talking
about she'd be like oh yeah i forgot and it was pretty much how it was with this one yeah she was
like oh yeah i remember him his wife was really quiet a little tiny petite thing everything she was
like oh yeah i remember yeah and i have been in cabin 13 before and i was so young and it's
it's kind of weird and creepy how it happened because um i was with my mom all my cousin rachel
and montana we were just having a day there and right like oh let's go see cabin 13 so we kind of
just follow her and she like walks down the steps and next thing we know there's this couple walking
down the steps are like can we help you rachel's like are you staying here they're like um yeah do
you mind if we go in here and look there was a wife murdered here by her husband they're like
huh like we fully believe rachel traumatized their little like romantic getaway or their little
vacation could you imagine though if you're there for a romantic little getaway with your
spouse and then some random people just show up all by the way um there was a murder here i mean i
mean i feel like it might have weirded them out i know like me and you we would have been like
fascinated by them we're like oh my god have you to tell us more yeah um i think they like
reluctantly let us go in and rachel's like oh i feel something i'm like no she did and me and her
mom mama just stood outside because she's like i don't want to go in and me and montana were just
standing there in the doorway like this is as far as we're gonna go and rachel's like i feel something
which i mean it was a creepy cabin i'm crying but yeah right then at the end of it rachel's like
have a great night bye i swear i swear like i like i will literally i will call rachel right now
and she can tell you the story oh my god yeah i think the bed is like upstairs and you might have
to climb up a ladder or something like that or there's like stairs yeah yeah oh my god or the
third episode was lake shawnee which it's um crazy how this happened and i don't think i've ever
told you this story i was you know working and one day i looked up and i saw oh a z-cule bread
and i'm like oh that would be a great name for the lake shawnee case then when i did research for it
i'm like oh my god there was actually a guy one of their sons was named z-cule and i made him like
a ghost like this one and cabin 13 was kind of just full on me tapping into my creativity and like
telling a story then you know just telling you the actual ghost story and then the fourth and
final episode for state haunts was the trans-allegating lunatic asylum which in all honesty we could do
a totally new episode on maybe we will soon who knows but i went there in august because they
were doing a night tour on my birthday and i'm like might as well ring him you know 28 spooky
ugly boogalooly so um it was me my mom and my dad and it was honestly kind of like
miserably hot anytime i have ever been to weston i have frobes so what do i wear a sweat shirt
and sweatpants in the middle of august the dumbest decision i have ever made in my life
and i do not like to say my decisions are dumb because at the end of the day i make some good
decisions this was the dumbest one i've ever made and i literally looked at my mom i'm like
i wish i put a shirt on under this so i could take it off but no no i didn't but um i have been there
so many times i cannot even count on my hands on my fingers how many times i've been there
i took courtney there after a trip to pittsburgh while it should be a four four and a half hour
trip home turned it into ten and i want to say you kind of got fascinated with the location
after that so mine honestly mine has always been um i can remember one time we drove past it
we were going to morgan town and for whatever reason i remember we drove past it um and
truthfully i think that we're still fully operational when we went by yeah it was 95 up 95 96 i think it
was not it was 95 because it was same year i was born yeah so um we went by there and everything
and or maybe i'm thinking of the prison i think western was fully operational till 96 um but i
remember we would drive by there sometimes and um always i always wanted to get in there and stuff
because the building itself fascinated me but what fascinated me even more was learning so much about
the history 1994 sorry i just googled it was 94 we were both wrong for once continue sorry um but
going in there and then starting to talk about what all they would admit a person into the insane
asylum over is absolutely repulsive and we didn't even do the paranormal tour we just had the two
hour historic tour it was just a historical tour that we took um is repulsive and i think god the
strides that have been made in mental health but there's so much more strides that need to be taken
forth with it i mean if that makes sense in all honesty it's not even mental health like i could
literally turn you in for having classes in a nose ring right now i mean for two nose rings like it
could be like there was just so much with this and it was honestly it was deeply disturbing
what all and a majority of the patients there were women were a majority of it and for a woman to
have her husband committed she would actually have to go before the board which was nothing but men
to try to prove it however a man could have a woman committed if he was having an affair on
his wife he could have her committed over that and then move on with his life with his mistress
i mean it's things of that nature i mean you aren't so much all about the medicine you learn
about the history and the people who ran it you learn all about lobotomies and i believe they said
at one point they were doing over a hundred lobotomies a day yeah something like that they were doing that
many lobotomies and um they described to us how the lobotomies were done there's actual photos
of it set up in there of how it's done um they would talk to us about the criminally insane
floor and how the nurses would not walk side by side but rather it would be back to back
that way there was somebody protecting and watching the entire time and they actually
said that they would actually prefer to go on the men's side of the criminally insane as opposed to
the women's and i think the craziest thing of it all was the um where we went into the room
where the murder happened yeah and um there was a man there and he was very special needs i think
they said he had the mentality of a five-year-old five six-year-old something of that nature and um
three guys was one guy who was actually getting pissed off about what was happening
and with him and he just didn't like the guy so he um actually talked to other guys into
hanging him yeah they would hang him and as soon as he would lose consciousness they would bring
him down he would come back to conscious in the end they would rehang him and the guy got fed up
they done this like two or three times and he picked up the bed and crushed it through the man's
um yeah they like jumped on it and stuff yeah and they said we could either call the police and him
be put on trial for the murder and him be declared um mentally insane and not be competent enough
to stay in trial or we clean up the mess and we inform the family and that's what they did they
cleaned up the mess and they informed the family and the guy was moved to another mental hospital
which i believe this it is just a few miles up from where weston is let me talk about that one
can you believe i have a story about that doesn't shock me so my nanny and poppaw went up there to
visit some family friends um and the guy was in the hospital and they just pull up into this building
and they're like my nanny didn't say it at the time but she was thinking like why is there so many
government vehicles in this parking lot like what's going on so they get out you know not paying any
attention to signage anything like that and one of the guys was like can i help you i hope
we're here to visit so and so they're like you're not allowed in here this is the mental hospital
and nanny's like that explains a lot so yeah they you know left the parking lot and went to the right
hospital but um me and emmy we actually did the kremlein same building tour that building is so
so creepy in so many levels not because you know charles manson was there for a lost in but
just it's you had to shower him like basically in front of everyone and like
it's much different than the actual asylum like the building and the glass reminds me of one of
the buildings and house of wax and it was just it was honestly creepy to go like they had cuts
basically just lined up there was no like i think there might have been some rooms for like
patients or criminals and stuff but it was mostly just cuts lined up another thing too about this
is for the fact that this hospital was built just to take a little over a hundred patients max
and then at one point they had over 1200 patients there should we talk about how it's on 666 acres
of land that and then we also um discovered that there is a cemetery on there that we didn't know
about no i knew about the cemetery i didn't know they did cemetery tours so i'm down to do a cemetery
same
so in the middle of state haunts there was a major update in the case of gretchen flaming
which was the case that we were kind of referring to in judy petty's case
i fully believe that you know there could be a connection between both of them and
we actually have a trip to parkersburg planned very very soon and courtney has been there way
more than me here recently and which church is it do you remember i cannot remember the church
i just randomly remember passing by the church um it really struck me that they have a huge
missing banner of gretchen flaming in the front yard of the church and um i
i there are no new updates since we released the update episode but we can say that this
case has not left the table for police officers and i think every single day they go through
every single week that they get um the main suspect has been dragged on facebook if he
is seen in public there are pictures of him and i i fully i think he's across state lines
i think he's still close by but i think he's over in ohaha across the state border i want to say
i've seen recently that he was seen in ohio i could be wrong or maybe in another part of the state
but i i fully feel for gretchen's family i do too i'm happy that they have gotten out and spoke
about her case on tv it is on investigation discovery if you guys have that um so please
go watch it it was the main source for this episode but um i do feel one day there will be
the resolution to this case and i hope to god there is justice served but um that that is one
day that is hopefully going to happen really soon because i know officer zimmerman has basically
this case just under wraps in the best way possible like in one of the episodes in the episode
we had no idea that they you know searched the whale or the water tower and you know that was
one of the main things so i fully believe this case is looked into each and every single day and it's
i feel like they just start their own task force for this which is the best thing possible for them
the next episode was actually a one-year anniversary episode
and we were told for more info on nelly and ray's case and again we can talk about this case non-stop
we talk about it once a week once a month something like that yeah we talk a lot over it and we now
fully believe that nelly was just murdered because she was there literally she was murdered for no
reason no reason and she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time yeah and i'm happy this case
has gotten coverage on it since there was an episode on kindred spirits since kindred spirits did
an episode we actually got to watch that episode at black knight um and then we kind of just got a
search of the entire building which the upstairs is insane yeah um there was actually apartments
up there we didn't know if that was true or not but there was actually apartments up there and um the
biggest thing that was confirmed was there was an illegal gambling ring going on and we have
learned that ray owed people a lot of money yes and we believe that's why he was taken out and i
know that sounds awful but his we we've heard new things on this case that we will not release
because we do not know if it's true or not and because we have heard that this person goes after
people who mention it so we will not mention it but there is a suspect that i fully believe and
i fully believe that you know it could be true what yeah um we have both read the book by adniss
keely 20 times each probably yeah and agnes has done such a great job on it and she is such an
amazing person every time i see her she like gives me a big hug yeah um agnes is truly honestly a gym
she is like she messaged me so much when i was in the hospital no way yeah she even messaged me
and like checking on me and see how i was doing and everything i absolutely love agnes and yes
we gotta meet nellie's great nephew which is like one of the best things ever yeah and ray's family
is actually still in town yes and another thing that we have actually started doing ourselves is
we do like a little tour tour um to where the murders happened we show where the people live
where the car was located cars located uh where their bodies were depth as close as we can yeah
because federal prison property kind of can't go across the you know gate and trust me do not think
that i had not brainstormed of how we could go in oh i mean technically we could but it's only like
one day a year yeah i mean i have literally like brainstormed yeah and trust me i would have got
in there but i had to work that day and i couldn't call off because it was a wednesday yeah but um
um this can we go to the cemetery too yeah we we end up to cemetery always or depending on the time
of day yeah we'll either begin at the cemetery or end yes um yeah this case it's always gonna say
near and dear to our heart yes the seventh case we covered was the murder of cleo birdette this
was a crazy ride of a case too yeah it randomly just i forget how we found it but it was so random
and i think i found it online i want to say it was one that you brought to me and i'm like yes we
have to cover this because it's never been covered before on a podcast the only thing i've ever seen
on it was um a new station in trellston i don't know if they still do it or not but back in the day
they would look into certain cases and tell the story do the interviews and it is honestly just
so crazy what all happened and i feel like this is sadly one of the cases i can say there may never
be justice no because i fully believe he was just murdered because they knew he had money at the time
yep that is just one of the saddest things ever
the eighth episode that we covered was the murder of nicole don margley from february first 2003
this case is one that i found hard to cover because there wasn't much info on it like most of the
cases but the family posting on facebook made it so easier because there's not many facebook pages
out there for cases or for victims and i fully believe that like one point in time they did have
um the suspect but because there wasn't enough evidence they let him go and he has been free
ever since and what was so sad was the fact that she had a very young child but kind of the good
thing in it in a way is that her family has kept they definitely kept her memory alive yes and her
son knows a lot about his mother they celebrate her birthday every single year they have a cake for
he blows out the candles yes and again if you have information regarding this case come forward
come forward help somebody
are we ready for this one i think so miss leah hickman case nine and ten
he was last seen december 14th 2007 and her body was found december 21st 2007
so let's just go ahead and start this off this case was a wild ride this is another case that
took forever to look through because it's just there is so much and this is the first case
we have ever even read like referenced this is the first case we have ever referenced reddit
web sleuths just for the simple fact that it's just like not like relevant in other cases
and this is one that we definitely have our own theory on oh yeah oh yeah and i feel like we talked
about that in the episode yeah i mean this was a case that made absolutely no sense whatsoever
just the way the apartment was laid out yeah they were on the top floor and what was so sad about
this case was leah's bed was set up it was a blow-up mattress set up on milk crates yeah
and there was only one other person there the other two um the other three rooms were vacant
were vacant because the one guy was in florida yeah no there was four so it hers and then the owner
he was in florida and then two more but yeah you're right yeah yeah yeah he was in florida
and there was somebody coming in there somebody had to know the layout and how that apartment was
because the laundry room was down in a basement and the crawl space like it has been said i mean
police didn't even know about the crawl space and it is said you have to live there to know about the
crawl space so our theory kind of stands still that i fully believe it could have been an ex-boyfriend
that called a certain someone not pointing fingers at her sister to hide the body and from the serial
killer letter it makes perfect perfect sense because someone you care about you would not want their
body to get dirty so you would wrap them up in a clear tarp that is there for maintenance yes
and the whole other thing too about this case is it was a two-parter yeah and we're working on
getting things better for a two-parter or possibly like a little mini series about cases and things
of that no oh i want to say i'm sorry for the music pauses for the one person that complained
but i would say this much the reason why i was not participating on this one
was i was sick and in the hospital and mark had to record i thought you were just working again
no no i got looking at the dates on here and this is when i was in the hospital okay this is when i
was in the hospital so um just think jesus said i was better oh yeah was it oh yeah
so
case 11 was the case of chandice cochran who has been missing since august 20th 2019
this case was brought forward to us twice which i was oblivious and completely missed the first one
but it was in a facebook message and then we got an email about it yeah and i want to say thank you
to the two people that reached out to us because they fully put this case in line for us and this
case was going to be in season three but we decided to just go ahead and bring it forth yeah just felt
it was the right time and there is a facebook page for chandice that her mother runs and i have
my heart breaks for her mother and one of the big things too was the gas station the gas station
and fun fact we will pass that tomorrow and you're going to see what a distance it is oh yeah we will
won't be yeah we will definitely pass it um tomorrow and um yeah i'm not sure if there's going to be any
updates in this case or not i have my theory on it oh i fully do too but i have my theory i think we
had the same theory but yeah i just i don't know i wish there could be justice but
again certain people need to speak up for this absolutely
and then our 12th case our hardest case we have ever covered to this day
was the case of natasha alex carter court and you want to take it from here and tell them
a few things we missed out on so um again um alex was my little cousin or what we
affectionately called her was al a lot of times we called her al and um
um she never went by natasha never never she always went by alex and um
and some of the things that i left out in this case was how um we my family my grandmother
particularly had hired private investigators bounty hunters anytime that there was about to be a
break in the case it just stopped it went dead cold dead cold um
um my grandmother has spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to locate alex um the private
investigator um i just know his name is cliff and so i renew his name as and it was just like one
day he just like fell off the face of the earth like everything just stopped with it um
and then a few years beforehand um it was actually really sad they thought that they
found alex in ohio really i never knew yeah they thought that they found her and she was alive and
um it wasn't her wasn't her at all and um again um the homeland security was looking into the
amount of missing children out there and that's how alex's case came back forth and um the fbi
was someone out of pittsburgh who reopened alex's case with it um which props to them they have
really they have done so much in my family well forever for they have done an amazing job for it um
um i bet like um it was so funny um mark he came and picked me up one evening and he was
right after the fbi herrated larry webbs house yeah and we've been up there and mark is like
am i going to have to like the windows am i going to have to lock the doors and i was like yep that
this man has lived his life free lived his life and alex's life got cut out for 10 years of age
but you know at 10 years of age i feel like he won't be living free for too long no
and now we can kind of give a little sneak peek a little look into season three
mountain state mysteries which we can say is premiering on may 10th 2024 may 10th 24 um
it's our biggest season yet we are going outside of west virginia for a few cases um one of them
we dare promise y'all and that one is a very very crazy story in and of itself episode one is probably
going to be our longest episode ever um or i should say our longest episode yet yes it's crazy nothing
adds up me and courtney can literally go on a rabbit hole on this case we are going to be doing a lot
of extra things for this season we have a few few events coming up which we will post about so you
guys come out and see us grab some mountain state mysteries merch and all of that good stuff yeah but
we don't want to give too much away like we're not going to tell you like any episodes like we
are just going to give you hints and this is also going to be one of our largest seasons yeah it's
our biggest season yet there is so huge i mean we just kept on adding cases on the cases on the cases
and it got to the point where courtney's like mark we're not adding getting more but i'm like we
have to tell this case it's insane i was like we're in double digits major double digits well
we might get into more double digits after another case i just found
you know we have interviews this season which i'm so excited for you guys to hear
we are going on scene for some which i'm like really excited about because it just it lets you feel
the cases even more yes or get the feel of the cases i just say because
there's a lot of locations that we cannot go to due to the distance and all this and we're just like
well we kind of have the time because we do nothing else so i mean we do work but i'm like
we have days off so we are hitting the ground running for this season and it is going to be
insane yes and can i throw something in really quick if you ever have the chance to go up to
clark'sburg oh yeah go to the clark'sburg history museum yeah we love beth and all of them up there
it is absolutely one of the coolest things i have ever done and one of the reasons why i wanted to go
and i just happened to be in the area and was able to go one day without mark
yeah thanks for thinking of me it's fine i did think of you the entire time you had to admit
that i was thinking of you i would never do that to you where are you talking about so like we said
we will be returning may 10th 2024 with a crazy crazy case from parkersburg and marietta Ohio
so we will see you guys on may 10th stay tuned for our next episode because it's going to be the
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