1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Mountain State Mysteries contains adult content that may not be suitable for all audiences. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,160 Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,280 I'm your host Mark. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,800 And I'm Courtney. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:40,640 And this is Mountain State Mysteries. 6 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:53,600 The case we have for you today has been our most requested case since the beginning of 7 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Mountain State Mysteries. 8 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,800 It's the case of Angela Sheree's Gwen Stevens. 9 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,560 A case that Courtney and I have grown up hearing about. 10 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,320 A case that took place just miles away from us. 11 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:11,360 A case that just like everyone else, we wish we had the answers to. 12 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,680 So Courtney, are you ready for the season 2 premier Mountain State Mysteries? 13 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,120 I am. 14 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Angela Sheree's Gwen Stevens was born on June 27, 1970 to Thomas and Sherry Gwen. 15 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,480 To her family and friends, she went by Sheree's. 16 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,360 So from here, we are going to call her Sheree's. 17 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Her family described her as a beautiful baby who grew up to be a pretty young woman. 18 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:45,360 With blonde hair and blue eyes at 5 foot 3 inches tall and 110 pounds. 19 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,960 She was small for her size, but solidly built. 20 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,880 Sheree's attended Mount Hope High School. 21 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:58,000 She enjoyed playing the piano and participating in school sports where she was head major at. 22 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Thomas Gwen Sr. said that his daughter had no history of medical problems. 23 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Emotional or physical. 24 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Sheree's friends believed the Gwen's were very good to their daughter and said they gave her everything she wanted. 25 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,640 Family members said they spoiled her. 26 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:21,360 As she grew older, she became more self-centered and developed a taste for nicer clothes, new cars, 27 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,520 gold jewelry, and trips to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. 28 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:31,600 Sheree's was popular in school and voted best dressed by classmates her senior year at Mount Hope High. 29 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Her friends described her as an independent, outgoing, and persistent person. 30 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,760 They said she was good-hearted but had a bad temper. 31 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,480 In June of 1988, she graduated from Mount Hope High School. 32 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,600 She went to Durham, North Carolina and got a job at a chiropractor's office. 33 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,480 Sheree Gwen said she returned home four or five months later and started working for an Oak Hill chiropractor. 34 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:04,480 In 1989, Sheree enlisted in the U.S. Navy but aggravated an old injury and was discharged. 35 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Not too long after her return home, she started to work as Spartan sportswear at Crossroads Mall 36 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,960 as an assistant for co-owner Jim Tanner. 37 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Sheree's worked in the business office. 38 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,720 She was smart and quick to learn. 39 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:25,760 When the store adapted to a new computer system, Tanner said that she helped set up the automated inventory. 40 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:32,880 While working at Spartans, Sheree smet her future husband, Norman Stevens, during Halloween in 1991. 41 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:38,000 He came into the store to make a delivery, saw her dress as Dolly Parton, 42 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,840 and asked her out and continued to see her after that. 43 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Friends of Sheree said that once she and Norman were married, on May 2, 1992, they rarely heard from her. 44 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,080 The couple studied karate and enjoyed riding jet skis at Smith Mountain Lake in Virginia. 45 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,560 They also enjoyed traveling to Charlotte, North Carolina on the weekends and would 46 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,000 travel to Daytona Beach in Florida for vacation. 47 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,120 They would end up moving into a house on Norman's family's 98-acre farm. 48 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,320 They would also attend Breckenridge Missionary Baptist Church in Boat. 49 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,200 At work, Tanner observed some tension between Sheree's and another employee. 50 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,160 He said he tried to get them to work it out, but failed. 51 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:28,720 Sheree's ended up leaving in December of 1992 to attend the College of West Virginia, 52 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,720 which for those of you that live in Beckley, that's now West Virginia Tech. 53 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,240 By August 30th, Sheree started to drop classes. 54 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:43,680 The last one was dropped on September 29, 1993, just two days before she disappeared. 55 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Her reasoning for dropping classes was that they just didn't fit into her schedule. 56 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Later that day, a family member saw her for the last time. 57 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,720 They said she acted like nothing was wrong. 58 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:02,240 On October 1st, Sheree's drove Norman to work in the couple's 93 Dodge Daytona. 59 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,160 She dropped Norman off at UPS on industrial drive in Beckley. 60 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,400 Sometime after she dropped Norman off, she picked up her friend Paula Hager for lunch. 61 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:16,000 During lunch, Sheree asked Paula if she could move in with her, and she said yes. 62 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,800 After lunch, we aren't sure what Sheree's did. 63 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Maybe she ran some errands, maybe she went home to pack up some of her things. 64 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,360 You're listening to Mountain State Mysteries. 65 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:45,440 In early October, Norman informed her family that Sheree's left him. 66 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,400 He said that she had taken him to work and she didn't come back to get him. 67 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,720 Sherry Quinn said, and I quote, he had to get another ride home. 68 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,800 He told me that she was gone and he didn't know where she was at. 69 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,080 The family ended up doing some investigating at their own, but turned out nothing. 70 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,360 As time went on, her family started to get a concern and needed answers. 71 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,040 Finally, family members filed a missing persons report with the Raleigh County Sheriff's Department. 72 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,960 When officers came to question him, Norman told them Sheree's felt to pick him up after work. 73 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,680 He said that a co-worker drove him home, but never provided the name of who it was. 74 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,800 He said that Sheree's called him later and said that she was in an undisclosed out-of-state 75 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,800 location and that she was never coming back. During this time, Tully turned out to be dead ends. 76 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,600 One was a possible sighting at Aubrey Lane, USA in Nashville, Tennessee, 77 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,960 and the other involved a woman with a similar name in Virginia. 78 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,720 Sheree's name and description were entered into a database at the International Crime 79 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Information Center in Washington to assist the search. 80 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,720 Frustrated with the way the case was being handled, the Gwen family asked for the state police to 81 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:08,960 take over. Norman was questioned again and for the second time he declined a polygraph test. 82 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Both investigations included a search of several computer databases including the internet, 83 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,600 which in the 90s was still new, Internal Revenue Service and Social Security, 84 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,680 which both showed nothing. Officer Brooks said, quote, 85 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,760 she's not paying taxes on anything. She's not been in a hospital anywhere that we know about. 86 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Social Security and Internal Revenue Service, we've checked all of those places and since 87 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:45,440 1993 she doesn't exist on paper anywhere, end quote. Suspecting foul play, Brooks coordinated 88 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:53,600 a search of the former couple's residence in a joining 98 acre farm with dogs trained to detect 89 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:59,920 cadaver. Not a trace was found other than the same false leads. During this interview, 90 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Norman also told officers how their 93 Dodge Daytona just reappeared in the parking lot of UPS 91 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:15,360 on November 1, 1993. He sold it later that month, quote, the keys were over the sun visor 92 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:21,760 and nobody around, end quote. Norman told officers he was absolutely sure that this was the last 93 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:27,360 time he had ever had contact with her. This would be the last time they ever got to talk to Norman. 94 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:33,120 He refused a polygraph, which to me isn't anything bad. They're admissible in court 95 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,040 and really can't be used. So Norman basically logged it up and shut up. You might be asking 96 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:44,560 yourself, how does a car just reappear and no one would see her that we aren't sure about. 97 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,320 But we do know that after Norman sold the car to a man in Charleston that officers actually tracked 98 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:57,760 it down and put it in their impound lot. We can also confirm that it is in their impound lot 99 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:05,360 and that it was searched. The inside's completely torn apart and the passenger mirror is broke. 100 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,920 You might be asking yourself, how do we know it's the car? Well, from a picture that you can see on 101 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:19,840 our Instagram and our website, MountainStateMysteriesPodcast.com, you can see that the passenger side 102 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:27,200 of the trunk, there is a friends of cold sticker on it. The car had the same exact sticker and the 103 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:33,280 same rims. The only question we have about the car, why would it have a 2010 sticker on it? It could 104 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:39,200 be due to the fact that 2010 is the year the officers were able to find the car or that it 105 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,640 could have just been for a different reason. Even though Norman didn't report Cherise missing to 106 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:53,520 authorities, he did file for divorce on October 27, 1993, just 26 days after her disappearance. 107 00:09:53,520 --> 00:10:02,480 According to court documents, the uncontested divorce was finalized February 14, 1994. Just 108 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:08,240 down the road from where Norman and Cherise lived, the Breckenridge Missionary Baptist Church was 109 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,800 under construction to build a new addition onto the church. During this time, the construction site 110 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,880 was open not too long after the disappearance of Cherise, that part of the parking lot was paved 111 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:27,520 over. A year later, the Gwynn family and police asked to search the church and the old septic tank. 112 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Courtney, do you care to read the letter that was sent to the church? Dear members of the Breckenridge 113 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:39,280 Missionary Baptist Church, we the Gwynn family and friends are looking for Angela Cherise Gwynn 114 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Stevens. At the time of her disappearance, she was living in this area and had gone to this church. 115 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:51,600 She has been missing for almost 12 years. We need your help in getting closure on this matter. 116 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,360 The reason for this letter is the Gwynn family and friends would like to provide a free service 117 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:03,360 to your church. We have reason to believe that there are some clues to her whereabouts in the 118 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,080 septic tank located in your parking lot. We would like to have this tank closed out so we can look 119 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:16,960 for these clues. We would use licensed and trained professionals along with proper authorities to do 120 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:23,440 this. Please help us to get the closure in this matter. We may no harm to your church. If we find 121 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,560 nothing then no harm was done and we appreciate your help. Just another piece of the puzzle 122 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:34,160 would be taken care of. If this was your daughter, sister, or friend, what you would like to know, 123 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,760 we ask to get people at the church to please help. Now we know what you're thinking. The church let 124 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:46,080 them search the old septic tank. Well, sadly they didn't. Members of the church ended up having a 125 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:52,560 closed door meeting which included Pastor Dewey Lowe and Tom Harmon. Tom is the uncle of Norman 126 00:11:52,560 --> 00:12:00,080 and was a neighbor of Cherise and Norman. Sadly there would be no search of the church for years. 127 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,600 You're listening to Mountain State Mysteries. 128 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:22,880 As the years went on, Thomas Gwynne never gave up looking for his daughter. He hired a private 129 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,880 investigator that believed Norman didn't go to work at all on the day Cherise was last seen. 130 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:35,600 The investigator also believes the car she was driving was sold after her disappearance. 131 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Sadly, in 2008, he passed away. He said, quote, when I enter heaven, I'll know exactly what happened 132 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:53,280 to her. End quote. In March of 2010, officers would obtain a search warrant for an old coal 133 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:59,360 mining store on Glenview Road in Crab Orchard that was owned by Norman's brother Michael. 134 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Cadaver dogs would end up finding a bone and officers would send it to the Smithsonian in 135 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Washington DC. However, it was just an animal bone. The search was done on a Monday and by Wednesday 136 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,920 police had the building demolished, deeming it unsafe, which I remember seeing the building 137 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:27,360 when I was a kid and it it was a sketchy looking building. In May of 2014, Raleigh County Commissioners 138 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:33,760 addressed a variety of issues Tuesday morning, including this end of a sad chapter of the area's 139 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:40,320 history. From the meeting notes on online petition for presumption of death of Angela Cherise Gwynne 140 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Stevens was presented. A motion was made by Commissioner Ebling to approve the petition 141 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,720 for the presumption of death Angela Cherise Gwynne Stevens. Second, by Commissioner Reed and 142 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:59,040 motion carried. Dave Tolliver, commission president, said Tuesday that the state police have exhausted 143 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:06,080 all leads in their search for Stevens. Finally, in 2017, a search of property at the Breckenridge 144 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Missionary Baptist Church was finally conducted. In an article by Jessica Farish for the register 145 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:18,720 Herald, Thomas Quinn Jr. said, quote, we would like to thank the Breckenridge Missionary Baptist 146 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Church for letting this go forward. Just another potential place illuminated. This was not our 147 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:31,280 first search and will not be our last. This is the end of a chapter in the beginning of another, 148 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:37,360 end quote. Under the agreement, Gwynne said church members allowed the family to access the old 149 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:44,320 septic tank located underneath the church parking lot. Gwynne said, quote, I don't believe she ran 150 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:51,280 off. I believe somebody killed her, end quote. Gwynne said that during a 1997 search of the Stevens 151 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:58,560 farm back at Aberdogs, the dogs hit on the spot, but no remains were discovered. It just kind of 152 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:06,240 brought up the suspicions that Cherise's killer could have maybe put her in the septic tank at the 153 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:13,520 church. Because at the time it was under construction, he said prior to the Monday search, they may 154 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:20,880 have moved her there. He said that he is dedicated to finding his sisters, despite the frivolous 155 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:26,480 church property search. Now we've both been to this church many times throughout the years, 156 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:32,960 and well I can say we did go there recently just to get an idea of where the spot was dug up, 157 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,440 and I've actually never realized it was that close to the church. I can also say that I've 158 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,600 talked to my grandmother many times while doing research on this, and she does believe that since 159 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:49,440 the tank wasn't used that there could have possibly been something in there, but there is a chance 160 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,440 that something could definitely not be in there due to all the chemicals. She said basically 161 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:02,240 sewage and all that will eat anything up just like acid. As of 2014, Cherise's case has been a 162 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:08,720 homicide case. There's a few things popping up here and there with her case. As of right now, 163 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:15,440 it is still an open case. We do believe that the questions everyone has will be answered. 164 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:23,760 The Gwynn family is offering a $1,000 cash reward up to $5,000 for any information helping solve 165 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,920 the murder of Cherise. The Gwynn family also has a PO box set up for any information to be sent to 166 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:39,680 them. PO box 131 Glen Jean West Virginia 25846 or you can contact Crime Stoppers of West Virginia 167 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:55,600 at 304-255-7867. You can also email us at Mountain State Mysteries 304 at gmail.com. 168 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:12,880 Courtney, do you have any final thoughts on this case? I can honestly say that I remember when this 169 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:25,520 happened. I was about 11 years old when Cherise went missing. I remember just this side of her 170 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:33,040 overwhelming feeling because everywhere in Bolt, Fairdale, Glen Daniels, Surveyor, everywhere you 171 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:41,840 went, her missing posters were up and I remember telling my mom, I said she's so pretty. I remember 172 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:52,000 telling my mom that and just constantly feeling side over it. I have so many questions and we have 173 00:17:52,000 --> 00:18:00,160 discussed this in depth. One of my biggest questions is why did her family wait a year 174 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:08,720 to report her missing? That is absolutely one of the biggest questions I will have on this case 175 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:18,160 and it's something I don't understand. I know my mom, for example, my mom would have immediately 176 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:24,640 contacted the police if she hasn't heard from me and I'm sure that's the way it is with a lot of 177 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:34,560 our listeners. The other thing that I have questions about is how did the Raleigh County 178 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Commission decide to pursue her dad? How? I'd just like to know what her family thinks about that 179 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:59,040 with it. I don't know but that part does make me quite angry with it and it just irritates me more 180 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:05,920 and more and more that I think about it. Mark, do you have any final thoughts? Like Courtney, 181 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:12,320 I grew up seeing Sharisha's poster on power poles at the post office at the local grocery store. 182 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,320 I always felt sad after seeing her picture because I knew she was missing. Growing up, 183 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,600 my grandmother would always talk about this case because she grew up with her father. He would always 184 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:30,400 call her baby alderman. There's so many questions and theories I have to this case. I do feel like 185 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,240 answers are on the horizon for the Gwen family and everyone else. We've heard about a few things 186 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:43,200 happening but we aren't sure if they're legit or if it's, you know, something major in this case. 187 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,920 We actually went to the church not too long before recording this episode to get an idea of 188 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:54,160 where the old septic tank was and to be honest I never knew it was that close to the church. Also 189 00:19:54,160 --> 00:20:00,000 knowing this case happened minutes away from where we are recording right now has always bothered me. 190 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,680 I've always wondered if she could be on bolt mountain. If she could have been in the septic tank, 191 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:12,960 could she be at Smith mountain lake? I along with Courtney and really everyone else who knows about 192 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,880 this case have always wondered why it took them so long to let them search the church. It's honestly 193 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:26,160 never set right with me. To this day, I cannot go into the church and not think about Cherise. 194 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Another thing that really bothers me with this case is the fact that we went to the library to 195 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:39,280 dig in deep and dive into it. Like we did with episode one, The Case of Nellie and Ray. 196 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:46,240 There was one article on Cherise and you can actually see it on her website, 197 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:53,040 mountainstatemysteriespodcast.com. But with that and somehow I was lucky enough to gain 198 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,720 access to the old website her family had for her, that's where most of this information came from 199 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:08,160 is the one article and the website and just knowing about it. And I've been on the forms for 200 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:16,480 this case and there's a lot of fact and a lot of fake in it. There's talk about one case of this 201 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:26,880 woman going missing. I want to say in the 70s and it's not true. There's no graveyard at Breckenridge 202 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,840 church and we have we literally have confirmation from someone that Courtney knows. There's no 203 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:42,320 no graveyard even connected with that church and that's something that bothers me just how 204 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:50,480 there's you know a real case and a fake case going around online that they try to tie in 205 00:21:50,480 --> 00:22:00,240 with this church and Cherise is yes. The other one no like to me it just it isn't a thing whatsoever. 206 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Another thing is I do believe someone in bold knows what happened to Angelos Reese Gwyn Stevens. 207 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,800 Next time on Mountain State Mysteries we're going to tell you the story of the Hood Family Massacre. 208 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,200 If you find yourself enjoying Mountain State Mysteries take a second to follow, 209 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,960 download and rate it on your favorite podcasting service. It helps others find good true crime 210 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:32,000 podcasts. 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