00:00:00.20 alexei sayle ah but

00:00:00.63 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal This hasn't started yet, but wait, what? Oh gosh. Fuck me. Here it is. It's okay. We're just starting. All right. And action.

00:00:14.71 alexei sayle Hello everybody and welcome to episode 68 of the Alexey Cell podcast and Alexey Cell was involved in a right hold.

00:00:26.67 alexei sayle Right. Oh, Michigan's at the weekend. Um, you're going to ask me about it.

00:00:34.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, well, yeah, we got an email from Tim who was also there.

00:00:36.60 alexei sayle Yes.

00:00:37.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He said, on Saturday, I got violently harassed by a cop in front of my nine-year-old child, but others got far worse treatment.

00:00:45.02 alexei sayle yes

00:00:45.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Shows how scared kid starver is of our movement.

00:00:49.21 alexei sayle Yes.

00:00:49.46 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah ah We have all ages, all professions, all faiths, all sexualities, all colors, all genders, all classes, and our marches aren't going away. Bless you, Alexei and T-Bone.

00:00:58.70 alexei sayle No.

00:01:00.69 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And what's he talking about, Alexei? And were you also there? And was I also there?

00:01:04.23 alexei sayle Yes. Yes. Was you also there?

00:01:07.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes.

00:01:07.42 alexei sayle um So last, in the middle of last week, at this point, the March, had they agreed, I think in October or November, that the March could go from the BBC, where it would protest against BBC, incontrovertible BBC bias against.

00:01:24.43 alexei sayle Palestine, they're in there reporting to Whitehall. Then suddenly, I think with a week to go or something, the police suddenly said, reversed their position and said they couldn't. The march couldn't set off at the BBC because they'd heard from the the Rabbi of a synagogue that's a bit of further up Great Portland Street that he'd said that,

00:01:49.64 alexei sayle I don't quite you know that it would disturb his parishioners. I mean this is despite the fact that demonstrations have been leaving from outside the BBC for the last 15 months.

00:01:56.61 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm. Mm-hmm.

00:01:59.65 alexei sayle I think there were also there was heavier, I don't know if there was heavier pressure from the board of deputies of British Jews. All of these are of course pro-Israeli and therefore pro-genocide, pro-ethnic cleansing, pro-apartheid.

00:02:13.26 alexei sayle but the police but for whatever reason chose, who have I think been reasoned, you know, I mean others might disagree, but I think the police have, despite a certain amount of earache, have you know allowed demonstrations to proceed and have not being overly aggressive that the police decided to um ah to forbid the, and in the end, they forbade the demonstration from happening at all and said they could only hug a rally at Whitehall. This was, I think, I think that obviously not, it wasn't just that they were bound to be like the board of deputies, but that the message had come down, presumably from the prime minister, Keir Starmer, and from home secretary, Yvette Cooper.

00:02:58.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:02:59.87 alexei sayle that this was the time to crack is to get more aggressive with the demonstrators. Now, during the week before, when it was still departing, I think from the BBC, Lindsay Jamon and the Stock War had emailed me and said, would I march at the front?

00:03:14.44 alexei sayle I think I mentioned this last week ah because they ah they wanted obviously Jewish people at the front to point out that, you know, Jewish people weren't terrified of these demonstrations.

00:03:15.86 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You did, yeah.

00:03:25.37 alexei sayle I said yes. By the time I got to the, you know, but so I finally I got to Whitehall by which time the demonstration had been ah forbidden and it was just a static rally was all that was allowed.

00:03:40.16 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm.

00:03:40.62 alexei sayle ah but By the time I got down to Whitehall, so I went backstage anyway and after there was the usual. speakers, Khaled Abdallah was Judy Stevenson, beautifully read poems, very moving and so on and so forth.

00:03:54.86 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal was.

00:03:55.69 alexei sayle And Lindsay said, can you line up, we'd like a prominent people to line up at the back of the stage holding flowers. We will then when Ben Jamal is finished speaking, we will line up and walk towards the police lines and then when we get to them we will stop and lay flowers and ask them why they're not permitting us to march.

00:04:18.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, yeah, the language, because Benjamin at that point came out on stage with you all at the back there. And the language was very clear and specific. He said, we're going to walk up to the, we're going to walk.

00:04:31.70 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He never said March, we're going to walk up to the police line. And if they let us pass, we shall continue walking all in silence.

00:04:43.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You know, that's what, that was his instructions to the crowd.

00:04:43.61 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:04:45.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um We're not going to be disruptive. If the police let us pass, we'll continue walking. And if and if at any moment they they stop us from walking, we will lay the flowers down at that point.

00:04:58.81 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:04:59.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But the the aim, the hope was that they would reach the BBC and lay the flowers down there. And that's, he followed, he stuck to his word, didn't he, with that?

00:05:08.42 alexei sayle Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:08.84 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal with that

00:05:09.66 alexei sayle So we all so after he'd been speaking, we all trooped off to say his amazing act of, it was a, I mean, a most extraordinary experience, really, that amazing act of stewardship from the very young stewards that they formed a kind of flying arrow of a kind of, and then we marched or walked

00:05:29.98 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal flying arrow of what yes

00:05:31.37 alexei sayle Well, like ah they they formed a triangle basically about, which came to a point about maybe 10, 15 meters ahead of us, the frontline of the demonstration. Okay. So there's this Jeremy and John and Stephen K post, you know, the Holocaust survivor is nineties and me at the end. um So, so they, they formed this kind of,

00:06:01.33 alexei sayle but ah kind of pointed phalanx ahead of us and then they we march

00:06:09.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Walked.

00:06:09.77 alexei sayle through the crowds. we keep yeah Well, you know what I mean. But I mean, we walk through the crowds and it's just that the crowd parts very obedient.

00:06:18.54 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal it was yeah Yes.

00:06:20.12 alexei sayle It was the most, I mean, to be in the middle of that thing was just a kind of i mean very hard to take in, in a way, just occasionally, I think, and then people, I think, sort of formed behind us.

00:06:34.01 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yes

00:06:34.95 alexei sayle So, yeah but you know, and okay, I mean, occasionally the the crowd would compress and you would think, I mean, it's lucky that everybody's so well behaved on that demonstration that, because there's a couple of times when it could could have got, you know, quite dangerous, I think, but people are so well behaved.

00:06:52.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yes

00:06:54.44 alexei sayle So anyway, we walked up the first line of police, which was halfway Whitehall parties, by the Senate half and that's through, but genially.

00:07:05.83 alexei sayle And then we finally got to, by the side, i outside Canada House by the side, by the side on the on the edge of the, note what would be the Northwestern corner of.

00:07:17.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes. Trufalgar Square.

00:07:20.88 alexei sayle Trafalgar Square and there the police had parked a line of vans and then police you know police had formed up in front of that riot police I think rather than Geneal Beat, Dixon of Doc Green's style beat coppers. And then so there we stopped. And then there was a kind of hiatus, really. Jeremy and John talked to the police and said, you know, we're MPs, why can't we walk? Shit like that. Then at some point, they a snatch squad or whoever came out and while Benjamin was actually speaking to them, um they grabbed him you know entirely unnecessarily violently, hauled him off.

00:08:02.48 alexei sayle Then, so then we laid flowers down, put our banner down, laid the flowers down, sat down for a bit. A man with a bad hip lent on me for a while. And then we saw just turn around and the march very obediently turned round, which again, with the 50,000, 100,000 people, it was amazing that they were so cooperative that they did that.

00:08:29.05 alexei sayle And then our kind of hole opened up and I just went round the other, the the the eastern side of the square, picked up my bike from where I'd left it at the top of Wise Hall and cycled home really.

00:08:39.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm hmm.

00:08:40.70 alexei sayle So that was... That was my Saturday and it was, it was, you know, it's a difficult, it's an it's an experience that's hard to take in in some ways, just being, you can, you can see it's long, it's see the power of of ah of a crowd like that is both inspiring and also frightening in a sense.

00:09:01.27 alexei sayle You can see how things go wrong, but you know, I say everybody's so well behaved that, but it was clear that, um,

00:09:02.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:09:11.12 alexei sayle the police had been instructed to be more aggressive.

00:09:15.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal well and also there were the police um statement is that the demonstration became disruptive and they disobeyed the commands of the police and all that but ah there is clear footage of the police um being told to let you through let you pass from Whitehall into Trafalgar Square and they were like filter filter and they all kind of

00:09:15.69 alexei sayle And this can only have come from our beloved Labour Party.

00:09:34.93 alexei sayle Yeah, it was very easy.

00:09:39.23 alexei sayle Yep. That face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:09:44.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal came apart and let you pass through.

00:09:45.16 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:09:46.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So there is evidence, video evidence evidence publicly available that contradicts what the police statement is.

00:09:46.96 alexei sayle yeah

00:09:53.88 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal the and Their statement is why they ended up, their statement is to justify why they ended up arresting 77 people, including some organizers of the march.

00:10:01.73 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:10:06.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And they've brought in, Ben and Jeremy have been brought in for questioning and stuff.

00:10:06.88 alexei sayle yeah and then I think subsequent yeah Chris Nyanum has been charged section 14 of the Public Order Act well so to move on I was I contributed the same people who did Jeremy Corbyn the big lie

00:10:13.56 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Was it Chris Nynum? Is that his name?

00:10:26.85 alexei sayle I have now done another film called Censored in Palestine, which features interviews from you know people you know talking about how they've been censored for Palestine.

00:10:37.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, the screening was last night, wasn't it?

00:10:40.66 alexei sayle And it was last night, the glittering premiere, which I was also on a panel.

00:10:41.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:10:45.88 alexei sayle It was so it's me, Chris 9, Mothers of the Footwatt, is now the Filton 18. I think that was it, Lindsay Jamon. lindsey ja and and um I mean, what's very clear from the film and what I actually, I mean, I i had completely forgotten my interview, but actually what I, I mean, you know, I think they obviously chopped my interview up. I think what I say is actually not bad for once. um What I say is that this is a continuum. Well, I mean that the evidence presented in the film is of

00:11:26.49 alexei sayle a fascistic crackdown of free speech really and it's small scale at the moment and it's saying mostly it's but climate protesters and Palestine movement. But it is extraordinary. jaconian For instance, the mothers of the three ah women, I think of girls who are held being held ah that they will have been held before their trials are not set until November 2025. And if they are not released on bail, which they have been up to now, they will have been in prison for 15 months in very harsh conditions before they even come to trial. And that is

00:12:05.82 alexei sayle extraordinarily unjust and is you know i don't know you know fascistic really and these these are people who obviously have and then you know the government is fighting very hard to make sure that um juries can't consider ethical considerations when they when they come to ah guilty or you know innocent findings so it's really and that what i say in one of the things i say in this is this

00:12:09.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's very old fashioned, isn't it?

00:12:30.79 alexei sayle is that this is a continuation of the Corbyn crackdown. The anti-Semitism smear was a kind of trial run for this and of course, you know, like as the famous pastor Nia Moller poem says, you know, first they came for the Communists where I didn't protest because I was not a communist yeah that that they will don't think that this isn't that this is a trial run and they will next come for obviously they're they're already going after climate protesters.

00:13:02.95 alexei sayle They're going after the post palace pro-palestine.

00:13:05.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, yeah, and they're using anti-terrorism laws to to punish the climate protesters, which is a proof of that poem's legitimacy, you know.

00:13:08.67 alexei sayle And as somebody spoke, yeah,

00:13:13.22 alexei sayle yeah i mean yeah yeah but also that that that that the The bounds of what is considered terrorism have been set ridiculously wide, deliberately, and that a Labour government should should go along with this, should not alter and in fact expand what the Tories did with people like ah expand on the work of pretty people like Prissy Patel and Suela Brahma and it just really is an extraordinary disgrace that they are enacting the same laws and the same tactics as Suela Brahma and Prissy Patel.

00:13:38.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah

00:13:49.67 alexei sayle uh enacted and it's so you know, there's a um there's ah ah a a proposal in a journalist called Sarah Wilkinson whose home was raided uh laptops and you know beans and this is for and to say that you know to point out you know to point out or to ask about what's you know, what is a terrorist organization that in itself is considered support for terrorism essentially and this is draconian and

00:13:59.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. Yeah. Mom's ashes and stuff.

00:14:20.88 alexei sayle profoundly dangerous and don't think that they're not going to come for you. They will, they will start off with us and then there will be trade unions and it will be anybody who gets in their way.

00:14:35.16 alexei sayle um and So, you know, just this, it's in all our interest to resist this about it. And it does.

00:14:43.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm.

00:14:43.84 alexei sayle I know it's stupid to think, but it is sometimes you do think that somebody

00:14:50.76 alexei sayle ah that people like once could have been considered left-wing lawyers, people like Lamy and Starmer himself, left-wing issue, did work for Daltier Street Chambers, ah that they should be at the forefront of bringing in this kind of fascist legislation is still surprising, really.

00:15:01.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:15:14.58 alexei sayle And um

00:15:17.65 alexei sayle i'm afraid Yeah, um one one feels that this is only the start, really, of a growing cloud of ah repression.

00:15:29.21 alexei sayle And the yeah the fact that David Lamy, as somebody said, traveled to Israel last week alongside the ambassador, the Israeli ambassador, who's a hateful, racist.

00:15:39.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, she's a credit.

00:15:40.37 alexei sayle David Lamy could be in the company of that woman. is just what do they talk about on the fucking plane you know way I know you're racist but let's let's let's watch the Shawshank Redemption together on I don't know anyway um It's just, um you know, this, it is, you think it's, it's normal, but nothing is normal anymore, really. So that's, that's been my week.

00:16:17.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's been a far from fucking normal week from day one, you know the from the overwhelmingly ah surreal go inauguration day in ah in the States.

00:16:20.69 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:16:30.24 alexei sayle Oh, you just haven't even got to that shit. Yeah.

00:16:35.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, they're seeing some interviews with Lamy and trying to chum up to Trump.

00:16:42.23 alexei sayle Just, where's your, I mean, I suppose when they sell their souls, they also, it's it's like a two for, you know, it's like a buy one, get one free, you get their self respect.

00:16:45.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Where's your backbone?

00:16:54.87 alexei sayle When they sell their souls, their self-respect is sort of bundled in as well. So you just think, where is your backbone?

00:17:05.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No.

00:17:05.59 alexei sayle know That you should behave in this craven fashion to racists and mass murderers. What did it get you? you know It's extraordinary.

00:17:17.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal How do you, how do you fucking live with yourself? You know, you've been given the, you know, the honor or or the responsibility of leading a country.

00:17:21.11 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:30.79 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:17:33.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And it's not even like

00:17:34.57 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:17:35.15 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You know, if this was like the the Middle East or South America where a prime minister or president can buy themselves a palace and, you know, Ferraris and, you know, private jets.

00:17:43.28 alexei sayle yeah

00:17:51.24 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You're kind of like, okay, I see why you're doing it. but You know, Gaddafi had a palace and golden guns and haremes of women and all that.

00:17:58.38 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:18:00.01 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's like, okay, I can see directly see the but the gains you're getting out of being a corrupt piece of shit.

00:18:06.70 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:18:06.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Whereas here in the UK, can you imagine Starmer like, all right, thanks for the press conference.

00:18:10.69 alexei sayle Free, well that's it, yeah.

00:18:11.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Go back to my palace now in my golden Rolls Royce.

00:18:14.76 alexei sayle Sold yourself for some fucking free Arsenal tickets.

00:18:18.14 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah Yeah, exactly. like

00:18:19.72 alexei sayle And a chance to see Taylor Swift from 300 yards away, rather than the average punterist.

00:18:19.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal well

00:18:24.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And a promise. you know they're They're clearly given a promise from a higher power or a you know billions of ah billionaires, um dark room.

00:18:26.68 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:18:29.28 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:18:36.26 alexei sayle Yeah, I mean, the country of Feinstein.

00:18:36.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you know They're given a promise that A, they won't have ah their heads blown off, but also you'll be safe, you're gonna have a long, ah successful, you know wealthy life once you're done in this politics game.

00:18:45.98 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:18:48.86 alexei sayle Yes. Well, that's what Andrew Feinstein says, you know, Blair has made, what, 140 million or something off the arms trade since he retired from being

00:18:58.24 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I just wish though there was that literal direct ah evidence on screen. Like I wish Kistama dressed in like a general's uniform with loads of medals and had like 10 women warriors behind him.

00:19:12.34 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:19:13.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and

00:19:14.99 alexei sayle Yeah. Well, it's more, it's more most subtle, isn't it?

00:19:17.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But it's more subtle and sinister in a way, you know, cause these, these dictators are so much more childish in their instant pleasures.

00:19:19.01 alexei sayle in Yeah.

00:19:26.77 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Whereas,

00:19:26.82 alexei sayle Anyway, that was my, that was my week. So thank you.

00:19:29.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, thanks for sharing that, Alexei.

00:19:31.94 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:19:32.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's been a weird and not...

00:19:32.66 alexei sayle Yeah. It was a strange. I did think when they sort of and they were bundling Chris down into the ground. They suddenly felt that, you know, I thought, is this all going to kick off here? You know, is this going to be, which was kind of exciting.

00:19:51.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Kind of reminiscent of the 80s of Thatcher's troops.

00:19:52.90 alexei sayle Yeah, I never, I mean, I was never really involved in the protest or anything, but that that money I can, in the Vietnam demonstrations of the late sixties.

00:19:59.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But you think, you know, you you want to say this is unprecedented, but it's not. You know, police have been given these powers before and done, done.

00:20:07.21 alexei sayle Yeah, it's more that this is being done in the service of a foreign nation.

00:20:12.28 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes.

00:20:12.29 alexei sayle It's, you know, supposedly an ally, but I think in a sense an enemy is, that's new.

00:20:17.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But hey, why were we even protesting? Why were we even there? You know, there's been a ceasefire, Alexi. Everything's fine now, isn't it?

00:20:22.36 alexei sayle But yeah, that's ah moving the action to circus has moved to Jenny in the West Bank. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I did I allowed myself a couple of days off really where to a shot pretended to believe that I mean, the killing has stopped.

00:20:36.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, I knew it.

00:20:38.85 alexei sayle But you know, yeah.

00:20:39.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and and Not that much. There's been tens of ah of murders.

00:20:45.58 alexei sayle Yeah, yeah, I just keep us.

00:20:46.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal In, you know, Hamas's stronghold, the West Bank, as we all know, because they can they don't even have Hamas as an excuse anymore.

00:20:49.73 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:20:54.29 alexei sayle no kind of good I mean, it's...

00:20:55.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's literally sniping children, a dad driving his family in a car, getting shot in the head um while driving down the street.

00:21:05.05 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:21:06.94 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um rounding up ah what they released 90 hostages, the Israelis, and have arrested 60 more from the West Bank.

00:21:07.27 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:21:13.50 alexei sayle Yes.

00:21:16.90 alexei sayle Yes, yes.

00:21:18.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Nothing finished. I knew it was no cause for celebration. I said it last week.

00:21:21.68 alexei sayle No, no.

00:21:23.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal At least the Gazans have a modicum of relief.

00:21:24.58 alexei sayle No.

00:21:27.32 alexei sayle I'm not getting killed this week.

00:21:29.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal they're just you know but it's it's it's we're you know fucking musk throwing the nazi salute and this and i think people are you know that's probably a distraction because trump's been

00:21:30.86 alexei sayle Yeah. Well, uh, you know.

00:21:50.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, he's given, well, this is what I've heard, you know, who knows, but he said that they're saying he's given Israel carte blanche to annex the West Bank basically. And this is their new project now.

00:22:00.76 alexei sayle Uh, yes, I would have thought so.

00:22:01.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Is that what it looks like to you as well?

00:22:04.21 alexei sayle I mean, I mean, and people like at least Stefanik gives it fright, another terrifying racist saying, yeah, she believes Israel has a biblical right to the West Bank.

00:22:11.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm. Hmm.

00:22:15.64 alexei sayle uh you know yeah i guess i mean but that i mean i don't know where the seven seven and a half million palestinians in the west bank i don't know what i don't know what if they're they've i don't know if they're going to try and kill them all as well as the palestinians in gar so i don't know how they're going to try and whether somebody's going to crack with a joke you know i don't know who where the palestinian is going to go apart from them being mad at nobody which which the Israelis would like, but, you know, it'd be difficult for them to um carry it out.

00:22:52.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, you start by arrest arresting all the men, putting them to work, sending the women and children probably into Gaza or forcing them to become refugees elsewhere.

00:22:56.01 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:23:06.02 alexei sayle Yes.

00:23:07.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And then five, 10 years down the line, start bombing Gaza again, once they've finished rebuilding.

00:23:14.39 alexei sayle Yes, I guess, yeah.

00:23:18.13 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's my prediction.

00:23:18.21 alexei sayle um i I don't quite see how this is going to work without, you know, extermination on an even greater scale than Gaza. I guess we will see.

00:23:27.70 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal the The other idea is that this is actually death flails for Israel. This is the beginning of the end for the Zionist project.

00:23:35.69 alexei sayle I mean, some people say that I would i would like to think so. ah I don't know.

00:23:41.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal If people so keep their eyes peeled and keep their eyes on Palestine, I don't think there has to be a breaking point. you know we we We won't keep standing for it.

00:23:49.94 alexei sayle Hmm.

00:23:52.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and

00:23:53.48 alexei sayle But unfortunately, it doesn't matter what I mean, Chris Nynum was saying only 6% of the rich population support Israel. But unfortunately, there's 6% are all in the government or the media or, you know, you know, funding campaign against antisemitism or community security. trust So it's the mass of people as they do across the Arab world.

00:24:20.52 alexei sayle uh, support the Palestinians. Unfortunately, they, our viewers don't seem to count because we do not control the levers of power, you know, but this is very clear one instance where our government and our rule our entire ruling class, because the Tories are even more enthusiastically zionistic or that, um, you know, where our entire ruling cast supports, you know, does not support Israel and the in almost the entirety of the British population supports Palestine so that you cannot see a greater example of the kind of dissonance of of the different, you know, the gap between the govern and the govern on this one issue, for example. And it's a bad, you know, it's a bad thing

00:25:16.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's a bad thing.

00:25:20.40 alexei sayle Somebody should stop it.

00:25:24.43 alexei sayle Where were those aliens when we, you know, where were those aliens when we need them really? They could just, just, just come and rescue us really.

00:25:37.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal There needs to be a word for like an, like not optimism or pessimism. But like, I'm optimistic that it will be okay, but only after the most horrific things we'll ever witness in our lifetime.

00:25:57.89 alexei sayle Right. Right.

00:25:59.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Like, what's the word for that?

00:26:00.43 alexei sayle Yeah. I don't know. i

00:26:05.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You know, I'm hopeful for humanity, but we're gonna have to see a lot worse shit but before we fucking fix up and solve.

00:26:07.09 alexei sayle Yeah. Really. Yeah.

00:26:13.97 alexei sayle Well, I think that apart from I'm not optimistic for humanity, but I but certainly believe on believe all the other stuff. I don't know. Maybe the reasons can help us out with a definition.

00:26:22.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, if the readers out there have a word for me, I'm sure it's German, like Schadenfreude, like a word that we don't have in English.

00:26:29.63 alexei sayle Yes. Yes.

00:26:31.90 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Maybe it's ah Romanian, I don't know, but if any of our listeners, um because they're very informed and and and they respond very well to our, yeah, how many people told us what sharp means, you know, because at the end of Poppy's email, our skinhead friend Poppy,

00:26:35.71 alexei sayle A word for pessimistic optimism.

00:26:42.45 alexei sayle ah Clever people.

00:26:47.27 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:26:52.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um who was hesitant about going to the march because she was worried she would be ah misconstrued as a nasty skinhead when in fact she was ah like an original lefty skinhead and she said at the end of her email stay sharp and the sharp was in capitals and I was like what's that and we got 20 messages saying skinheads against racial prejudice is what sharp means

00:26:53.67 alexei sayle Hmm.

00:27:06.39 alexei sayle Mm hmm. All right.

00:27:17.79 alexei sayle All right.

00:27:21.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um

00:27:22.27 alexei sayle Well, I hope we hope we help with a dilemma like to hear.

00:27:25.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal we ah Annette got in touch, who is also a woman's skinhead. She said, Poppy should go. There'll definitely be people for her to march with.

00:27:37.58 alexei sayle Yeah, I feel like I've seen skin that's on the mark.

00:27:38.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um

00:27:41.98 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, and and she also said, please feel free to pass my email address on to Poppy. I'm happy to meet up with her in London and she can march with me, Ian and Hilary.

00:27:52.23 alexei sayle Cool.

00:27:53.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um So long as she doesn't march, mind marching with older people over 60, regards Annette. So Poppy, if you need some buddies to march with, ah drop me a line and I'll pass on Annette's email to you. All right. um And the videos on Patreon are doing nicely. People seem to enjoy that. Last week, I in fact managed to release the video episode a day earlier.

00:28:23.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal than the podcast version.

00:28:25.25 alexei sayle Right.

00:28:26.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I just dropped it on the Friday when I finished editing. I was like, yeah, patrons can have an early preview.

00:28:29.71 alexei sayle Yeah. why Yeah.

00:28:31.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But I had one concerned reader message in and say, I love that you're doing videos now, but I like listening because I like driving, listening to it while I'm driving or doing the dishes or whatever.

00:28:41.56 alexei sayle yeah

00:28:43.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And now I'm torn because I never watch video podcasts. What do I do? I feel like I've been given this gift that I'm not, a that's fine, mate. You don't have to watch it. But, you know, if if something visual happens in the podcast and you want to see what we were talking about, you can go to the video and check out that moment.

00:28:59.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's all right. It's not for you. It's not for you.

00:29:01.05 alexei sayle You can tell, you can tell when I've lost, I've not stopped listening to Talal because I started making faces.

00:29:01.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's fine.

00:29:04.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You've glazed over.

00:29:06.60 alexei sayle and

00:29:06.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal me Yeah. um But if you want to watch the video podcast and see Alexi's faces.

00:29:14.06 alexei sayle I could be in that musical of, of what's it called? What's that? You know, Del Boy and Ronnie Trotter.

00:29:20.49 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Only fools and horses.

00:29:21.70 alexei sayle I'll be fortunate. I could play Uncle Grandad

00:29:24.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, you could.

00:29:26.25 alexei sayle or whatever he was called.

00:29:29.52 alexei sayle Your fruit bowl is somewhat different.

00:29:29.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal so

00:29:31.43 alexei sayle It doesn't look as magnificent this week. Have you replenished it or is it the same fruit?

00:29:34.69 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, we ate all the fruit. I made a smoothie like I said I would.

00:29:36.23 alexei sayle Yeah, all the fruit. Yeah.

00:29:38.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's delicious ah with some bloody celery and cucumber in it with all the fruits and some chia seeds.

00:29:45.99 alexei sayle Noice.

00:29:46.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um and some granola it's like a good way of forcing yourself to have fruit it's a nice healthy breakfast and now it's replenished you're obsessing my fruit bowl man get your right get your own fucking fruit and let me finish plugging the patreon patreon dot.com forward slash alexisale podcast patreon dot.com forward slash alexisale

00:29:52.49 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:30:02.19 alexei sayle Oh, yeah.

00:30:07.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal podcast and you can watch Alexi pull faces or stare at the wall while I say things he's not interested in. ah Do you remember last week, um I asked people to leave some reviews on the Apple podcast.

00:30:22.50 alexei sayle Yes, I do remember.

00:30:24.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Do you wanna guess how many people have done it and the lot since Saturday?

00:30:28.30 alexei sayle Eleven.

00:30:29.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, 21.

00:30:31.85 alexei sayle That's good. Is that enough to to to to ah affect the algorithm?

00:30:35.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, we're millionaires now. Yeah. um I'm sure we want more.

00:30:39.59 alexei sayle We'll leave more then.

00:30:41.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Please keep it going keep that attitude up.

00:30:43.26 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:30:44.09 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Go to Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast, leave us a five-star review. And I said, you know, we'll pick one and and I'll send them the last Lego Alexi.

00:30:54.47 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Here it is.

00:30:55.37 alexei sayle All right.

00:30:56.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal There's a little Lego Alexi. This is for the video readers.

00:31:01.68 alexei sayle What's it adapted from again?

00:31:03.72 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's just, it's, it's early 2000s stand-up comedy, Lego Alexi. Oh, what?

00:31:10.25 alexei sayle You have to use.

00:31:11.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I think the head is from a Sean Connery in some movie.

00:31:15.23 alexei sayle All right.

00:31:15.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh no, no, it's Zod, General Zod from Superman.

00:31:19.46 alexei sayle Right.

00:31:20.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Put onto a black body holding a microphone. It's like a grumpy Alexi sales stand-up comedy in the, the,

00:31:28.00 alexei sayle That's ah that's a it's a marvelous thing to have.

00:31:31.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and it comes with a signed certificate of authenticity there. Thank you to Make It Jones on Instagram for making these.

00:31:36.22 alexei sayle that's my That's my No.

00:31:40.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's the last one, five of five. I'm gonna send that to someone. ah we see We got 21, I can't read all 21 and then ask you to pick one, but maybe I'll read you a couple and then I will randomly choose one.

00:31:54.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal How does that sound to you?

00:31:55.95 alexei sayle Yeah, maybe people could leave maybe people could leave five star reviews for us on TripAdvisor as well.

00:32:05.04 alexei sayle I confused things, wouldn't I? Yeah.

00:32:08.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I love that idea.

00:32:09.36 alexei sayle yeah

00:32:12.68 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm writing this review because Talal and Alexei asked me to.

00:32:12.74 alexei sayle ah yeah

00:32:17.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal For anyone in their right mind, this podcast is like breathing straw to the surface for someone, like a breathing straw to the surface for someone who's held, whose head is held underwater.

00:32:24.87 alexei sayle This is Metaflow. Yeah.

00:32:29.29 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um Vera Chuck and Dave writes, Alexi has been delivering his unique brand of comedy since his standup and the young ones in the 80s. They give you a bit of a biography here.

00:32:40.13 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um This podcast, yeah, 78, yeah.

00:32:41.39 alexei sayle It's like 70s, if anything, actually, but come on.

00:32:46.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal This podcast is on you, huh?

00:32:46.65 alexei sayle 78, 79.

00:32:50.04 alexei sayle I'm just saying dates. 78, 79, 80, 81.

00:32:54.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal 81, 82, 83, 84, 85. This podcast is unusual in that he and his funny mate Talal talk unscripted about serious issues, but still somehow make it entertaining. Keep up the good work.

00:33:05.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Thank you very much, Virachuk and Dave Heisenberg, BB.

00:33:07.63 alexei sayle a

00:33:08.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I love Lego. What's not to like? Wise words from the inventor of alternative, alternative comedy with his trusty Arabian sidekick keeping things in order. Politics, jokes, great guests, and huge benefits for patrons.

00:33:23.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Did I say I love Lego? Particularly figures of comedians from the 1980s. I lost my Stephen Fry. Well, you say lost.

00:33:33.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I actually quite like that one.

00:33:33.61 alexei sayle Makes you sound like him Robin Hood, the one with, was it Morgan Freeman and was the trusty Arabian sidekick and who's the other, who's the other?

00:33:45.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, I did ADR on that. um It's that to play the Arab probably.

00:33:48.92 alexei sayle I think I might have auditioned, I think I might have the audition, not to play the Arab plays, I don't know, probably for possibly Friday talk, I can't remember.

00:33:57.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Friar tuck. The main guy in that was the guy from um gen the and he played Elton John in that.

00:34:05.79 alexei sayle I forgot his name.

00:34:10.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Am I right?

00:34:11.35 alexei sayle No, it's not you talking gibberish. It's, um, Oh God, him.

00:34:16.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Was it Russell Crowe?

00:34:16.53 alexei sayle Yeah. No, that was, that was a different Robin Hood. It was, um, like 84.

00:34:25.66 alexei sayle okay

00:34:26.86 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What's his name? Morgan Freeman. Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, Kevin Costner, 1991, with bloody Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham, Kevin Costner.

00:34:31.37 alexei sayle Yeah. Kevin Costner.

00:34:36.27 alexei sayle Kevin Costco. ah and it Another standout performance from Alan Deere, Deaparti, Alan Rickman. He was one of us. ah

00:34:46.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Was, oh yes, fuck. I'm my name. John McLean.

00:34:55.30 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Listen, Harry Potter. I'm going to kill you, Harry Potter. Someone taught me how to do that impression, so you have to imagine there's a spoonful of soup in your mouth.

00:35:08.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I love him in Dogma. I am the Metatron. Alan Mirikman.

00:35:14.51 alexei sayle I tell you what, he's great in his galaxy quest as well. I mean, I wonder if we should do galaxy quest.

00:35:17.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I, one of my all time favorites, I watched it three weeks ago.

00:35:19.43 alexei sayle What do you think you think it'd be too? Ah, such a great movie.

00:35:24.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal three I'd happily watch it again. It's, it's so good.

00:35:25.65 alexei sayle such a great movie by grab by grabas hammer

00:35:27.56 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah

00:35:30.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I shall avenge you.

00:35:32.59 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:35:33.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's really touching actually that moat, that moment when he finally says the line, it's, it's a beautiful film galaxy quest.

00:35:34.83 alexei sayle yeah

00:35:39.29 alexei sayle Yeah, very wonderful.

00:35:39.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Um, very funny.

00:35:41.97 alexei sayle Sigourney Weaver. I mean, the the height of her powers. Tim Allen.

00:35:49.25 alexei sayle Yeah, just wonderful film. Very underrated, I think.

00:35:52.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal there's ah There's a YouTube channel called Red Letter Media, which I recommend to anyone, but they recently did a video about Galaxy Quest, which made me which triggered me to go and watch it again.

00:36:01.57 alexei sayle Right.

00:36:03.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's a really informed video, actually. There's a documentary on YouTube.

00:36:06.53 alexei sayle I think I've seen it.

00:36:09.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, it's on um one of the evil streamers, um and it's called Never Stop Dreaming or something.

00:36:10.79 alexei sayle It was something like, yeah.

00:36:15.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal or it's a quote It's a quote from the movie.

00:36:16.53 alexei sayle Yeah, it's got a weird, slightly weird title already, but, right. Um, but yeah.

00:36:21.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Um, really cool.

00:36:24.40 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:36:24.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Um, maybe we will do that as a Alexi cell film club.

00:36:28.52 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:36:29.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You've got one week readers until we're going to be discussing if from 1968, how old were you in 1968?

00:36:29.46 alexei sayle Yeah. Well, I better watch it. I haven't watched Lindsay Anderson's, if

00:36:41.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Lex.

00:36:42.17 alexei sayle I would have been um ah vague I failed maths I would have been 1952 so I would have been 16 16 yeah it's yeah seemed

00:36:51.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal but were you

00:36:56.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you'd been 16 yeah can you can you uh what was a 16 year old alexi like you want to tell us a bit about him yeah

00:37:07.79 alexei sayle 16 year old Alexei. Oh my god. He had long black hair, black beard, sort of cut out in the middle. He wore a leather jacket all the time.

00:37:23.67 alexei sayle He was quite, he's quite confused about things, although he was involved in left, but he loved them.

00:37:28.94 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah?

00:37:33.51 alexei sayle He loved Lindsay Anderson's if even that time he offered a

00:37:39.46 alexei sayle offer the glimpse of a, I don't know, I don't know, interesting movie anyway. I mean, certainly, I remember Loving No Lucky Man, which was the follow up with it. I don't know how it would feel about that now. But he was, I would have been, maybe I'd been, when I was,

00:38:02.39 alexei sayle they told me not to come back to school. And I was going to art school in Southport.

00:38:05.70 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal well Whoa.

00:38:09.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Getting into fights?

00:38:09.79 alexei sayle And, no well, not really, they just got fed up on me really.

00:38:15.28 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Why are you kicked out of school?

00:38:19.15 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Just, you know what, Alexey, we're sick of you.

00:38:20.89 alexei sayle I said, no, don't come back after the summer. Don't bother, don't come back. I did have a fight with the teacher. The teacher, Mr. Abrams, who strangely enough was in the Communist Party along with my parents, but he hated me.

00:38:36.66 alexei sayle pun My memory is he punched me in the tuck shop queue.

00:38:41.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Shit.

00:38:41.47 alexei sayle So I punched him back. um But that wasn't what they expelled me for, really.

00:38:43.22 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Shit.

00:38:45.72 alexei sayle It was just, I don't know. accumulation of things really.

00:38:53.34 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Did you have ambitions back then?

00:38:53.95 alexei sayle I've forgiven them.

00:38:55.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Did you know what you wanted to do?

00:38:57.39 alexei sayle I wanted to be a great, well, ah so I wanted to be, I mean I wanted to be an artist of some kind really, I didn't know how either.

00:39:06.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:39:08.07 alexei sayle I thought then it would be as ah possibly as a painter, but I knew I wanted to be I had that ambition that I wanted to be different. You know, I wanted to be a star and somewhere, some shape or form or other. I didn't want to be one of the mess.

00:39:27.85 alexei sayle were

00:39:30.67 alexei sayle So that's all right.

00:39:30.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Wow, thanks for sharing that.

00:39:33.78 alexei sayle Actually, I was just guys that sort of thinking before, that we have lost another, we have lost a great revolutionary this week, haven't we? Jeremy's cat, Elgato. Linda said he posted a very moving, I mean, that was on the Sunday really after he'd been a day after the...

00:39:49.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal there the day after the march he posted a beautiful uh post on instagram yeah had featured a couple of lovely photographs one with elgato on jeremy's lap and then the final photograph was if i remember correctly elgato standing on a fence post just beautifully framed and Just standing there, but backdrop was just the blue sky.

00:40:15.84 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:40:15.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal was really so And he wrote a very sweet message for his cats.

00:40:19.75 alexei sayle That's the kind of person you we could have had as our lead. They're not that fucking q guitar ridden robot midget that we've got.

00:40:32.14 alexei sayle Well, subset. Well, it's not that well really. either so I mean, he's he's getting old older already.

00:40:37.79 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal is Wilf beside you.

00:40:38.43 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:40:39.03 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal People have noticed that since we started doing the videos, Wilf hasn't interrupted the podcast once.

00:40:39.89 alexei sayle yeah

00:40:45.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I was wondering if it was like stage fright.

00:40:45.27 alexei sayle No, it he sleeps most of the day.

00:40:52.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's getting on, isn't he? Like 15 years old?

00:40:53.94 alexei sayle He is about 17, something like that.

00:40:56.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Jesus. We love you, will fellow Wilf. Hello, Wilf.

00:40:59.94 alexei sayle Yeah, he's upset.

00:41:00.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal All the readers are ah big fans. Oh, we're gonna get a look at him, are we?

00:41:08.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal okay camera's moving he's picked up his laptop there i see a blurry blob on the ground there i'm assuming that's wilf oh there he is his head under the bed um the microsoft microphone unplugged that's great um

00:41:25.82 alexei sayle the microphones

00:41:36.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm sure when that video exports, it won't be blurry. Thanks for showing us wealth. Sending you well wishes, wealth.

00:41:42.55 alexei sayle I'm back. Yeah. Did you see it? Was he there?

00:41:48.28 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes, he was there. His head was under the bed. So we just saw his decapitated body ah sleeping peacefully.

00:41:50.69 alexei sayle Yes.

00:41:55.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um Cats of the world.

00:41:55.89 alexei sayle yes

00:41:59.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah love and respect to you all you blood pressure lowering very feline friends of ours um couple more before we choose a winner out of these rev reviews galvanizing the people of britain's left this podcast tells us how it is from the creator of the alternative comedy scene i've already read that one

00:42:02.41 alexei sayle Yes.

00:42:30.46 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I've always loved Alexei Sayle from his daft and wild character stuff to his deeply thought-provoking stand-up. Talal seems like a cracking chap too. i really Just to say, I really like the ones that mentioned me, I have to say that. Alexian Talal provide a much needed common sense alternative to the rampant, hysterical right-wing rhetoric that seems to be raging elsewhere, erudite and articulate, um empathetic and humorous, informative and ultimately entertaining. Keep up the good work, comrades. Drury Fool, this Drury Fool likes the podcast.

00:43:06.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And one really nice one says, it's not perfect, but it's perfect for me. I like that.

00:43:12.89 alexei sayle Hey, good.

00:43:13.16 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So I'm still hearing you loud and clear.

00:43:13.75 alexei sayle Oh yes. Am I still, I don't seem to be coming out of my headphones. Am I, you still hearing me? Oh, fine.

00:43:22.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, man.

00:43:23.82 alexei sayle Doesn't matter if I can't hear me then.

00:43:26.00 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, you can't hear yourself out the headphones.

00:43:28.23 alexei sayle No.

00:43:29.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah You might have clicked the switch on the back of the microphone, might have accidentally gotten switched. Just put your finger around the back there and flick that switch.

00:43:37.95 alexei sayle Yeah. Oh yes. There we go.

00:43:39.88 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal There you go. um So what I've got here is I've got a 21 sided dice on the internet.

00:43:54.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What's this? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I want. um Roll a D 21 die. There we go. I'm going to roll the dice and I'm going to pick the review that the dice tells me to pick out of all the reviews we've gotten since Saturday and they will be the winner of the Lego Alexi. I'm going to get this over with. All right, Alexi. Should I do this? Here we go.

00:44:24.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So three, that was the most underwhelming. I don't know what I was expecting there. um I pressed the button and the number three came up. It's the one that called me the Arabian sidekick.

00:44:39.54 alexei sayle Okay.

00:44:39.80 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal highs and Heisenberg BB.

00:44:43.72 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal When I read that, review it reminded me of Tonto, ah the Lone Ranger in Tonto.

00:44:48.03 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:44:48.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Cause he had like a native American sidekick, didn't he?

00:44:50.31 alexei sayle He did.

00:44:52.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um

00:44:52.21 alexei sayle That was a terrible film.

00:44:54.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and and it's And it's the one that says, I love Legos. The only one that mentions the Lego. This is this is the one I wanted to win.

00:44:58.84 alexei sayle No, but they they they they definitely deserve it then, yeah.

00:45:02.77 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal HeisenbergBB, please reach out to me. ah You've won this.

00:45:07.45 alexei sayle Was that...

00:45:07.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I can't... I can't message you through Apple Podcasts, so I need you to email alexisellpodcast.gmail dot.com, message us on Instagram, message me on Patreon, um prove to me that's you somehow, and I'll send you your prize, your Lego Alexi.

00:45:27.53 alexei sayle It's a Breaking Bad reference, presumably, as well.

00:45:29.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes, Heisenberg BB Breaking Bad, yeah, ball bearing.

00:45:30.19 alexei sayle Heisenberg. Breaking Bad, yes.

00:45:34.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and Yeah. Oh, that was thrilling. Wasn't it? We love a competition on the elect sell podcast.

00:45:39.87 alexei sayle Oh, it's a fucking roller coaster ride of thrills.

00:45:44.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What else have I got to report to you?

00:45:51.14 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What have I got here?

00:45:52.65 alexei sayle Oh, somebody asked, I don't know when my celebrity yeah antiques road trip is going to be broadcast, me and Nigel.

00:45:59.90 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes.

00:46:02.73 alexei sayle Fosseking for antiques antitasin round lovely little Abjay-dah in our antique M.G.C.

00:46:20.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Will you promise to keep us posted?

00:46:21.02 alexei sayle Rupert I will. I don't know whether it's for maybe this is the first sign of maybe it's been cancelled because of my approach Palestinian activities. Maybe this is the first sign because it's it's coming at me. It's about nine months ago that we made it so I don't know why it hasn't been broadcast yet.

00:46:45.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal They're waiting for the right moment.

00:46:47.29 alexei sayle Yeah, I thought it was going to be around about Christmas.

00:46:49.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I love Nigel Planer. He was so so lovely to me.

00:46:53.86 alexei sayle Was he?

00:46:54.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Very nice guy.

00:46:57.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal How long did you have to spend together to make that show?

00:47:00.44 alexei sayle Three days.

00:47:01.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal How long did you get to spend together?

00:47:03.27 alexei sayle get We did we've spent three days together. We got the train up. Then we spent two nights at this sort of golf club near Morpeth. And then we got the train back.

00:47:14.70 alexei sayle And then we got back very late into King's Cross on the on the third and the third day it was ready. And our taxis didn't arrive.

00:47:25.32 alexei sayle And I think in the end, I walked home. The taxi had to finally phone the taxi. He said, oh, I'm only two miles away. Oh, he could have been in bloody Wembley, couldn't he? Two miles away.

00:47:36.95 alexei sayle So I just said, oh, no, forget it. And I walked home. So it was a bit of an anti-climax, really, to be in. What did surprise, I mean, I seem to be stuck talking in this with this sort of Alan Bennett sort of voice, isn't it?

00:47:46.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Antique climax.

00:47:53.35 alexei sayle What did surprise me was that he's much more famous than I am, really, the people. I suppose mostly from Neil, the more people recognized him than recognized me.

00:48:06.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm.

00:48:09.51 alexei sayle I mentioned that to him when I was around at his house yeah know the other day, but I wasn't angry. I don't want you to think Nigel that I was angry, because I wasn't, I didn't mind.

00:48:22.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Does he listen to the show?

00:48:22.84 alexei sayle I think I might like to talk like, does he listen to the show? I don't think so.

00:48:26.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:48:27.56 alexei sayle He's never mentioned.

00:48:28.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm surprised by that because, yeah, Neil, I suppose you could argue is a more memorable character mainly mainly based on screen time and a wig um and the voice.

00:48:34.96 alexei sayle Yes.

00:48:37.76 alexei sayle And that record went to number one and all that stuff.

00:48:42.03 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But I think over the years, you've done more memorable kind of film and TV stuff, but you've always been ye.

00:48:42.04 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:48:48.23 alexei sayle Well, that'd be me, haven't I? I mean, rather than than a character.

00:48:52.88 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, the voice is gone.

00:48:53.66 alexei sayle So I can do it. Blink it back if you want. I'm quite enjoying it.

00:48:59.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Have you heard of a film called The Owl Service?

00:49:02.22 alexei sayle Very, very vaguely. What's it about?

00:49:06.03 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, someone emailed called Lax, his name is Lax, and he's he's writing in from Boston, Massachusetts.

00:49:14.59 alexei sayle Oh, yeah.

00:49:16.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's followed your work for most of his adult life. I'm assuming his, sorry, if i've I've not heard the name Lax before, but it's got a masculine punch to it. Lax.

00:49:28.01 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's suggesting for the film club, and he says it's in true fashion of the podcast, 1969's The Owl Service. It was a children's book, which was also adapted for TV.

00:49:38.48 alexei sayle I thought it was a child. Yeah, I thought it was children's book. I don't know if we can, I don't know if we're going to do children's stuff really.

00:49:46.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm. Well, okay. Well, thanks for the message, Lax. We'll look into it.

00:49:49.46 alexei sayle Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll investigate.

00:49:50.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But I just, I just liked the idea that it was out in Boston listening to this.

00:49:54.95 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:57.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Um, Hmm.

00:49:57.87 alexei sayle I do. that Well, yeah, I do have fans, don't I? In the United States.

00:50:03.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal If only you did the antiques ah road race in in Boston and in America, maybe you would have had more, more people recognize you.

00:50:07.17 alexei sayle Yeah. Well, you know, Yeah. They sell all around the world. that Those are the, they're very lucrative, those antique shows. It's one of the things that people in Florida markets lap up.

00:50:21.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah lenin of Lenin of the Rovers, was that a book you did?

00:50:24.56 alexei sayle Now it was a radio series too.

00:50:27.79 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Radio series.

00:50:29.02 alexei sayle It was a radio series written by the late Harry Thompson and a guy called Marcus Berkman. And it was, it was, I think it was very popular, it was very funny. It was about how, it was a sort of, it was a sort of mashup of Roy of the Rovers, which if, I don't know where the people are, younger, younger, but he was ah he was a kind of, he was in a comic book and he was a, it was like a football based comic strip, you know, in a,

00:51:01.59 alexei sayle um

00:51:01.77 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm.

00:51:03.10 alexei sayle And so Roy the Rovers, and he played for Melchester, I think. And yeah the very shenanigans that he got up to as a footballer. And it was a ah kind of a lesion of that and sort of Marxism and communism. So it's for some reason, like I can't remember even the story was that Felchester Rovers or whatever were bought by, I can't remember, might be became communist. Anyway, I was, I think I was called Ricky Lennon.

00:51:32.90 alexei sayle And I was just leading football and it's full of...

00:51:36.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal The picture of you.

00:51:38.19 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:51:39.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You've got a big black beard in it.

00:51:41.02 alexei sayle Yeah, I look like you, because it's shaving her to be Blackbeard.

00:51:43.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:51:45.01 alexei sayle um And it was, yeah, it was so it sort of full of jokes about football. It was written a time when football really wasn't, you know, the stuff of comedy really, because football then was very de-classy.

00:51:55.93 alexei sayle It was like, it was shunned by the the the chattering classes. It was the hooliganism and very working class. So it was them

00:52:03.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm hmm.

00:52:05.16 alexei sayle ah Yeah, we did two series, used to record in the old Powers Theatre, which has gone there. Keith Allen was in it, and we also got contemporary... The bloke who did, you know, They Think It's All Over It is now, I forget the name, commentator, he's dead now.

00:52:21.12 alexei sayle He was in it, and it it was sort of, yeah, it was about a weird sort of...

00:52:23.35 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal a John Whitty.

00:52:25.75 alexei sayle And I wasn't talking about it for somebody else.

00:52:27.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Which is John Whitty as the announcer.

00:52:28.15 alexei sayle and

00:52:31.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Also had ah John Sessions and Jim Broadbent were in it.

00:52:34.97 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:52:37.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Kenneth Wolstenholm.

00:52:38.76 alexei sayle Kenneth Woolston home, yes. um

00:52:42.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um

00:52:43.96 alexei sayle And yeah, so it was full of jokes about football.

00:52:44.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:52:48.92 alexei sayle And Marxism. Former laid Labour Chancellor was he? Roy Hattersley once told me in a lift that he enjoyed it immensely.

00:53:00.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Wow, first aired on my birthday in 1988, on my first birthday. That's when it first aired.

00:53:07.16 alexei sayle I remember it was released on cassette, that's how long ago, it was released by the BBC on cassette.

00:53:12.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, lovely.

00:53:14.10 alexei sayle Glen and the Rovers, yeah, so people people liked it really.

00:53:17.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, um it seems like it.

00:53:19.04 alexei sayle but I mean, people think I wrote it, which I didn't, it was some of the people, yeah.

00:53:21.88 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, Marcus Berkman. um Valerie writes us in Comradeship, um praising the podcast and saying she would love to listen to a copy of Leonard of the Rovers.

00:53:36.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal She searched around. The only copy she could find only seems to be in the archives of the British library. And she doesn't want to sit in the basement of the library and listen to the show.

00:53:44.90 alexei sayle No.

00:53:45.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, I have news for you from my preliminary Google search. um I have found it on, I don't wanna plug something, but it's the only place I've found it is Google Play Books.

00:54:00.59 alexei sayle yeah

00:54:00.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal They seem to have both series of Lennon of the Rovers on Google Play Books. um Fucking hell. And it came out on my birthday last year.

00:54:12.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal How weird is that?

00:54:14.45 alexei sayle That's fucking weird.

00:54:15.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal 13th of February last year. And it first aired on 13th of February, 1988.

00:54:17.84 alexei sayle oh

00:54:21.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um So I think Google Play Books is a thing you can, yeah, you find it on YouTube, follow the links, Google Play Books, search for that, and then search for Lending of the Rovers, and you're gonna be able to find your book. All right, Valerie, hope that helps, and anyone else who's interested. I wonder if you get a cut of that, Alexei.

00:54:46.64 alexei sayle Um, I should do theoretically, but you know, kind of audible and, um,

00:54:52.35 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It costs a tenner. You get both series. It's just under four hours long.

00:54:55.81 alexei sayle I should get, I should get much of that, shouldn't I really? Um, I, I, I think, one you know, it's like Spotify and all that. I think it's one of them things where you get, the creators get very little or anything.

00:55:12.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, I imagine. So all the BBC just have all the rights to it or something.

00:55:17.07 alexei sayle I am though, actually next week I'm recording because it was, I think some of you were asking about, they never did an audio book of, uh, Thatcher stole my trousers. Oh, ow.

00:55:25.86 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah and you got a deal didn't you happy for you that's great um

00:55:27.03 alexei sayle Why is that in long way round? Um, uh, but I'm doing the audio book next week. So then that'll be out on, um, I don't know, whatever audio books are available to buy on cassette very soon.

00:55:46.34 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:55:48.64 alexei sayle I don't think it'd take long to. I mean, I put aside three days to record it. I thought I could record it faster than that. Remember when I recorded the audio book for the first volume? It's telling that my homework has a terrible hangover.

00:56:11.61 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal surely that helped fuel your performance um all right well you won't make that mistake again uh good luck next week recording that um maybe before we say our goodbyes and can i run have a wee please you know ever since my bladder was infected it's it's become really hard to hold it in

00:56:22.91 alexei sayle Thank you.

00:56:29.49 alexei sayle Oh my God.

00:56:39.01 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah you getting

00:57:03.68 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Not sure.

00:57:18.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh my God.

00:57:26.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That felt great.

00:57:28.57 alexei sayle ah

00:57:30.69 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, you've got a stick now.

00:57:32.65 alexei sayle It's my staff.

00:57:33.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal but That's quite a short stuff.

00:57:34.73 alexei sayle Yes, it's literally called the short staff.

00:57:37.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:57:39.54 alexei sayle Actually, if but I'd like to, not that it's not part of the form or anything, but I'd like to, like to learn how to, you know, do that really, but a lot faster.

00:57:51.09 alexei sayle If anybody knows how to do it.

00:57:54.00 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal If to join a marching band to learn that.

00:57:56.22 alexei sayle Yes, be a drum majorette. I look nice in one of those skirts, I think. But i am ah too I'm very um very taken with this. I like it very much that ah as a martial arts.

00:58:07.80 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:58:11.37 alexei sayle And I feel like I'm doing well with it really.

00:58:19.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm gonna come join your club, your kung fu club.

00:58:21.05 alexei sayle Yeah, come along.

00:58:22.98 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's not empty words, I'm gonna do it. um I'm gonna give you a call and get some dates off you.

00:58:31.27 alexei sayle Cool. Well, I get free, you know, if you sign up, I get free weeks tuition.

00:58:31.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, oh.

00:58:37.15 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, really?

00:58:38.90 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:58:39.56 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm.

00:58:42.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal All right, well, yeah, I wanna get, I loved the, when I was last doing Kung Fu,

00:58:49.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal We were doing daggers. So we did the broadsword and then we moved on to daggers. And I bought this little rubber dagger. and The way the whole form changes just by holding this little thing.

00:59:01.41 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:59:02.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And all the movements are completely focused on getting the most out of this. Focus your energy onto this tiny object. It was such good discipline.

00:59:10.09 alexei sayle Yeah, no, i like I mean, weapons.

00:59:11.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It just felt great.

00:59:14.17 alexei sayle Yeah, I've done. I mean, I haven't done read the land for above done yet, so then. long staff, but this is the only one that you can do is as a Tai Chi form. So it's ah it's weapons, but it's also Tai Chi. So you're trying to kind of get the energy down the, so there.

00:59:37.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Down the end of it, the point of it. Have you started teaching yet?

00:59:42.05 alexei sayle No, i that's the sort of, ah i because I've been so busy really with sandwich bar and stuff, I haven't had the chance to really advance my, I mean, I'd only ever be an assistant anyway.

00:59:54.85 alexei sayle I don't want to, I only want to, I only want to help out when there is usually, I don't know.

00:59:56.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Right.

00:59:59.24 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal because last year you qualified as an instructor, didn't you?

01:00:01.73 alexei sayle No, I haven't, I haven't really, I don't know.

01:00:02.72 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Essentially.

01:00:04.99 alexei sayle um If I said that I was lying.

01:00:07.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Right.

01:00:07.63 alexei sayle Um, but, um, I would like to.

01:00:10.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Fucking hell. You definitely said that.

01:00:12.94 alexei sayle Did I?

01:00:13.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, you're like, I'm an instructor now.

01:00:17.44 alexei sayle That was a pathetic lie.

01:00:21.90 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I love you. All right. um

01:00:26.36 alexei sayle I think so I would do think sometimes I could this guy could go for a walk with it. I could go on the demo space with this masquerading as a walking stick and then.

01:00:37.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh my God. You could, yeah.

01:00:39.16 alexei sayle Mm.

01:00:40.29 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal If you had it as a walking stick, yeah, but then what to, but it would it be for self-defense?

01:00:42.16 alexei sayle Nobody know what they well, everybody this. No, I just I mean, I know. I like quite like when they go for a walk on the Heath with Oscar, he's got to, he's got, you know, those collapsible sticks now.

01:00:58.61 alexei sayle So he sometimes he's like, he's like, he's got four wheel drive really. And he, he can get away from me. So I quite fancy having like a stick, but I thought if I, if I took this kind of my interest in listening to this book, um, if I took the stick, I could use it as a walking stick, but then I could get some practice in as well.

01:01:17.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah oh that's fun yeah why not or when it's all done you go to the nearby nearest park and just get zen go through your routines we

01:01:18.73 alexei sayle On the Heath.

01:01:25.50 alexei sayle yeah

01:01:31.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal have to remember to stay zen and and keep in stay in control of our minds i did get an email in from someone i can't remember who

01:01:34.25 alexei sayle fucking divide

01:01:42.55 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah just asking how how does one keep their mind and while

01:01:48.75 alexei sayle Yeah. Well, it's very difficult, isn't it? I i can't really, ohha I can't say I'm really, yeah. I mean, these are it's unprecedented, really. I don't know how you can. You know, you can be happy, really. My sexy beast. Why should you be happy? I won't let you be happy.

01:02:10.00 alexei sayle um No, I don't know. It's very difficult to live through.

01:02:17.09 alexei sayle To live through, you know, none of us have anything of experience, anything like this.

01:02:22.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal no well

01:02:23.28 alexei sayle So it's ah it's a difficult.

01:02:26.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal me and my i think uh i think that was my response uh let me get to it it was actually in the lovely patreon

01:02:26.21 alexei sayle I think community in a sense, it's only, you know, finding people who um believe the same as you, I think, helps.

01:02:50.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal community chats. I'm remembering now where I saw that message. And me one sec. I love these guys in the community, even though there's like one guy in there who's like,

01:03:09.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal really a chaotic element to the community chat and just saying shit that some people don't like. um Yeah.

01:03:16.78 alexei sayle He's given us money there, so we can't.

01:03:23.94 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I was like, I said, yeah, it's like ah so my response was ah so, yeah, Mark, lovely, Mark, who's very active in the Patreon community, actually. At the risk of sounding like first world problems, because obviously whatever we personally feel and struggle with during the genocide is nothing compared to the people of Palestine. Yes. But as a neurodiverse person with a strong sense of injustice, sensitivity, I'm finding the crisis and sickening attitudes and gaslighting from our leaders all so exhausting and detrimental to my mental health.

01:04:00.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Wondering if anyone else has similar issues and how they cope.

01:04:05.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and

01:04:05.58 alexei sayle Yeah, me.

01:04:07.98 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes, the podcast is the answer.

01:04:10.88 alexei sayle I know it's just me and me struggling with similar issues. I think I did.

01:04:14.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, you're relating now.

01:04:14.71 alexei sayle I think that um ah the only is community is powerful, really. I think I felt ah last night at the Genesis Center in the one mile in road.

01:04:28.60 alexei sayle I mean, you do. You feel buoyed by, you know, um the sense of other people. And of course, a sense that, you know, you're not going mad really, because there's a lot of other people feel the same as you. And they're just, you know, we are, I mean, this is everybody. These are, these are the best people in the world in many ways, I think. The people in our movement, ah you know, demonstrably, in a sense, I think the best people in the world. And and it does,

01:05:05.70 alexei sayle the the worst The worst thing I think is isolation. You have to try and find fellow spirits who believe the same as you.

01:05:17.68 alexei sayle and

01:05:17.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal agreed um yeah my response was yeah it's it's it's a weight getting heavier and heavier with every gaslighting day i feel your pain all i can say is keep conversing and gathering with like-minded friends and don't forget to be kind to yourself and that goes out to anyone else who's feeling a similar way um thank you mark and everyone else in the patron patreon patreon This guy is called Stirring Up Trouble in the Patreon community, actually.

01:05:45.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm considering muting you, naughty person. You might not consider yourself naughty, but you're saying stuff that is pissing people off.

01:05:54.35 alexei sayle How much is he giving us?

01:05:55.63 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And you hurt my dear Mark's feelings. So I might have to mute you from the chat. um How much is he giving us? All right, good fucking question.

01:06:04.19 alexei sayle yeah

01:06:05.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Let's figure this, let's get to the bottom of this, and then I'll never lend a fuck. but

01:06:12.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal How much is he fucking giving us? Where is he? How do I see this?

01:06:19.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Search by name.

01:06:23.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Three pounds.

01:06:27.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Three pounds a month, and he's only been here for this month. He's a new member.

01:06:32.16 alexei sayle I don't

01:06:36.77 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Staring up shit. What do you say, boss?

01:06:40.02 alexei sayle know, let's see if he gives us another £3.

01:06:44.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Okay, consider this your warning as well. Calm it down, mate. Calm it down.

01:06:53.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal All right.

01:06:56.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, I'm gonna send Alexi in with his stick into the chat room. All right, that's our time, I think. Watch If, 1968's If.

01:07:07.72 alexei sayle We're talking about that next week.

01:07:09.15 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal We are talking about that next week.

01:07:11.56 alexei sayle Alright, I'm seeing Karl, Karl and Ross as well of tomorrow. So, I might have updates on Rode Java.

01:07:19.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, previous guest.

01:07:20.76 alexei sayle Yeah, one of them.

01:07:22.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'd love to hear about Rojava. Yes, please. And if he wants to come back and update us on Syria in general, get his opinion on it, that would be interesting.

01:07:24.79 alexei sayle o

01:07:28.37 alexei sayle Yes.

01:07:30.87 alexei sayle Yes, nothing could probably just be more miserable shit, but still.

01:07:32.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Send my regards.

01:07:35.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Maybe.

01:07:36.12 alexei sayle This we need to know.

01:07:39.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um my My family had loads of land stolen by the assets around 40 years ago. and we'd forgotten about it.

01:07:48.68 alexei sayle Oh yeah.

01:07:51.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And it's all landed back in our lap again.

01:07:55.20 alexei sayle Yikes.

01:07:56.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So it looks like I'm going out to Syria in around April with my mum to go look at our family plot. It's being split between my mum's nine siblings.

01:08:10.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um

01:08:10.46 alexei sayle right Right.

01:08:11.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal We're gonna go have a look at it. see it used It was used for army training grounds and it has some like huts and maybe a couple of small barracks on it or something.

01:08:15.39 alexei sayle Oh, so it's still, yeah.

01:08:21.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um Because this new guy Ahmed, and and and the interim leader at the moment, he told everyone in Syria, like, if your land was ever taken by Assad, um or his dad, you know, if you have the papers, come to the government building, we'll give you your land, you'll get your lands back, no matter who's living in it now or anything.

01:08:39.43 alexei sayle Yikes. Yeah.

01:08:41.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So people have been doing that all over the country. We've got a few hectares out in the countryside.

01:08:48.15 alexei sayle Well, blimey.

01:08:48.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So, yeah.

01:08:50.11 alexei sayle So the election podcast now owns a bit of, now owns a bit of cereal.

01:08:50.14 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

01:08:56.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And we might be doing an episode from out there in a couple of months.

01:08:58.65 alexei sayle Yeah. And, um, if it's got any tanks on it or anything, we'd have our own armored forces.

01:09:05.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Fuck.

01:09:05.61 alexei sayle Maybe. T-72s.

01:09:07.57 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Do you wanna come out with me?

01:09:09.48 alexei sayle I don't know, it's tempting. I haven't been serious for a long time, obviously, but ah yeah, that sounds exciting.

01:09:12.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal could do a bike ride.

01:09:15.86 alexei sayle Maybe, yeah. Yeah.

01:09:18.28 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hey, me and you, the camera and a couple of mics walk around Damascus.

01:09:22.98 alexei sayle Yeah. Fucking hell, we go to Aleppo and see what's left of that.

01:09:29.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. All right. Watch the space readers.

01:09:34.33 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal See you next time.

01:09:34.47 alexei sayle all right all right bye bye I'm off I'm off with I'm off with Rupert to do some fuss again to look for round elkley looking for the antiques looking for the Queen Anne silver sugar spoon to

01:09:35.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Next same bat place, same bat time.

01:09:44.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, yeah. Is that right?

01:09:47.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh.

01:09:52.77 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, to go with your set.

01:09:54.68 alexei sayle go with me I've got the bowl I just need them I just need the sugar spoon so I say bye bye

01:09:57.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

01:10:01.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, that's sweet. Yeah. Um, a short thing. Yeah. Bye-bye, readers.

01:10:07.30 alexei sayle Bye bye everybody. Bye bye.