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alexei sayle
Hi everybody, welcome 72 of the alexi Sale podcast.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Podcast, podcast, podcast.
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alexei sayle
Podcast,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
So how do you feel enjoying enjoying doing these more laid-back, conversational, loosey-mugusey, not pristine, not polished,
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alexei sayle
And, well, you know, I'm i'm desperate, obviously desperate for the recognition of strangers. So the fact that this proves it's slightly more popular than what we were doing before, and you know, also also
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alexei sayle
helps. I think also it's actually better to, I mean, it it it gives me, in a sense, it's a way to... respond in a small way to the events of the week so um i think i appreciate having that outlet really yeah um and um yeah so so that's also you know to just talk about what's going on during the week is is i think better than waiting
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. yeah
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
A little outlet. Yeah.
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alexei sayle
I think either waiting for her an invitation to go on Laura Koonsberg or, you know, writing an angry letter to the Camden New Journal or...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
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alexei sayle
you know, whatever really, there there is a way in, in, in, obviously in a small way to, to, to respond and that, that's, that's useful. I mean, it's useful just to get that out, but I think it's also useful a, hopefully as a, you know, the, in the broader context of my, of my, of my work really to, to do that.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
yeah well glad to hear that um
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alexei sayle
Yeah. So, Yeah, so, well, there I mean, several things. Obviously, I went on the... Did you... you on the demo on Saturday? I went on the...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
i can't lie i had i missed it yeah i know i'm sorry
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alexei sayle
Were you, traitor?
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alexei sayle
Well, I was there.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It was my birthday weekend and I was extremely, extremely in pain.
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alexei sayle
Oh, yeah, so you're getting fucked up, isn't it?
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, was hungover.
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alexei sayle
Yeah. um Well, I was there representing the Alexis L podcast and it was big.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yes.
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alexei sayle
I mean, ah i mean I think PSA is well over 100,000, possibly 200,000.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It looked huge.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. Yeah.
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alexei sayle
two hundred thousand amazingly well behaved as normal. And ah yeah, you know, it's it's like it's kind of got, um you know you know, obviously one hopes that something more will grow out of these demonstrations. And you sent yeah the fact that we can get 150,000, 200,000 people on the streets 15, 16 months in is is is remarkable, really.
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alexei sayle
I didn't, I just, um I didn't, I wasn't at the head or anything. I just walked along with me. with me new, with me bicycle, yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
classic style did you take your um long staff your short staff with you
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alexei sayle
And,
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alexei sayle
no, I think I'll probably get, I mean, it'd be viewed as a weapon, wouldn't it?
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
no it's walking stick it's all right as long as you have a white beard you're allowed to hold a long stick there's this fellow who goes to my supermarket and i just i want to interview him or something he's like
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alexei sayle
Yeah, well, i yeah, could discuss.
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alexei sayle
Yeah, well...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Older guy bigger guy, white beard, long hair in like a long ponytail. And he he rides a mobility scooter around the supermarket.
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alexei sayle
there Right.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And his scooter is like adorned with like strings and like shells and stuff. And he carries this staff, like a Gandalf style staff.
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alexei sayle
Okay.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And he's he's basically an elderly Viking on a mobility scooter.
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alexei sayle
Right. Is is is mobility scooter one of them easy rider ones like we saw in Canvey Island that time?
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He gives off.
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alexei sayle
Or is it just an ordinary one?
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
like It's a three-wheeler.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's a three-wheeler.
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alexei sayle
They're all three wheelers.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
uh so it's not well do you get these big four-wheeler ones easier yeah it's ah it's like almost a motorbike is that what you mean like it looks this looking and he just he's just so cool and collected and he's got a basket on the front of his scooter and when he reverses round corners it makes the most horrendous noise this but he's always smiling and he's just this this supermarket viking and i fucking love him um
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alexei sayle
that's what's... Yeah.
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alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah.
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alexei sayle
Yeah,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Why am I saying that? Oh yeah, because of your long staff, short staff.
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alexei sayle
yeah because the staff, you think probably if he's attacked, he could use it as
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
if he Yeah, he's got some protection.
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alexei sayle
as a weapon.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um And it's nothing more satisfying than seeing those videos, the aerial shot of the march, when they shoot the bridge, and then you you see the road along the river behind it, and it's just masses of people
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And you're seeing like the bridge is completely packed and all the way down the river, the road is completely packed and it just shows you such a good ah ah showing of the scale of it and how many people are there.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's so satisfied to see that.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And I was gutted not to make it this time.
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alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah, well, there's a, yeah, I mean, there's a, the counter, as we get bigger and bigger, the shitty little counter demonstrations of Zionists seems to get smaller and smaller as well.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's good.
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alexei sayle
Very tiny little group. But sort of talking of that, I know it's reading in the garden, there's a very, very good documentary on BBC at the moment called, think, How to Survive a War Zone about children three children in Gaza and the, um some of those, the pro-Israel bastards have dug up the fact that the main narrator, this kid, is the son of the deputy agricultural minister of the Hamas government.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh my God.
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alexei sayle
And therefore, you know, they're saying, how could you have a documentary about you know, narrated by the son of a terrorist, yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
About the son of a terrorist.
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alexei sayle
ah So, and there' I think there's 45 of those pro-Israeli shites, Danny Cohen, Tracy Ann Oberman, those people have sent in a letter to the BBC asking that he...
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alexei sayle
not be shown again, but it is, I think it's still up at the moment. The BBC have, I've been shown some bravery for once and I've added a, just an explanation of who the kid is, I think, and have refused to take it down the moment.
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alexei sayle
It might be an idea if somebody on our side, uh, organizes a, you know, a letter. I mean, one commending the i email, commending the BBC for making it, but also, you know, the usual you know Jewish, uh, employees of,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's true. As much as we as much as we throw, or not we, as much as ah people will throw red paint at their doors and protest, it's important also to say this is right when they do something right.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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alexei sayle
Yeah, when they do something, yeah. Yeah, so it might i'm I mean, I don't really know how to...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's a matter of record, isn't it?
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alexei sayle
I might try and speak to some some people ah this morning to get that organised.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Open letter.
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alexei sayle
It is a counter kind of... Counter...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
you know I'm grateful for? I haven't seen evidence of in this country, but you see it in America, like footage of people in New York being hounded by these Zionist mouthpiece, like agit agitators,
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
like following someone filming them and saying, terrorist, you're a fucking terrorist.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You wearing that terrorist rag around your neck. Hey there, terrorist. Hey. And like, they'll go up to like Finkelstein and like hand, hand him a beeper.
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alexei sayle
Yeah. Put it in his top pocket.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
So this is for you.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and like, ah you know, just real agitating, like trying to rile these people up and get them.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It seems like they're trying to get them to do something violent so that they can get arrested or something.
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alexei sayle
Hmm.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um Whereas at least here, when, when we have protests, the, the,
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alexei sayle
well, they're corralled in.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
They're corralled in and separate.
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alexei sayle
You used to get that outside Palestinian meetings. You get the, or way of sticking their phones in your face.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah?
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alexei sayle
And, but ah yeah, they're usually, well, on the demos, they're kept behind the barrier, really.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Try to get you to say something bad or...
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alexei sayle
So, yeah. Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
These Americans, man.
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alexei sayle
They are hateful. They are, i've seen 40, they are hateful, those fucking people, really.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
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alexei sayle
So, yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I can't imagine not punching him in the face if he came up to me like that.
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alexei sayle
Exactly. That's the, yeah. Let's get,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Or like grabbing his phone, throwing it
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alexei sayle
Yeah, but then like they start squealing assault, assault.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
At least.
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alexei sayle
I've seen them do that over here. ah But also...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You're in America. Surely someone would have shot them by now because it's ah assault my ass.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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alexei sayle
Well, no. Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
that's I thought that was the American way.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But they're they're the good guys. So they're not going to shoot them, are they? They're not going to rise to it.
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alexei sayle
No, no winner. No, no. ah There's also, actually, it's interesting interesting. We've got a treat coming up for you. I think maybe next week or the week after we interviewed Jess Bernard, who's, well, she's chair head of, she's on the, still on the Labour Party, NEC,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yes.
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alexei sayle
and and is head of,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
She's an inside agitator.
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alexei sayle
Yeah, and his head of was had is still head of Young Labour, which yeah like which obviously the Starmarites have done everything they can to...
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Labour youth. Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I should have memorized her credentials.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
She's a member of the NEC.
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alexei sayle
remember that Yeah,
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
This is her current ah bio.
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alexei sayle
NEC is the National Executive Council, yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Labour NEC member, socialist and trade unionist, youth worker, organiser. She was a councillor for Labour Party.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And yeah, she tells us about how difficult it's been being a real socialist in Labour.
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alexei sayle
Yeah. Well, actually, that was the thing that I was trying to... One of the things I was thinking about was just... is what One of the things she talked about was... I'm thinking a bit just about how the only thing that unites the Labour right, really, the only really strong ideological kind of glue that they have in many ways is their absolute hatred of...
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alexei sayle
the left just that more than anything else and that you can see that in that having beaten the left and got into power they don't now and don't know what to do with power because they have no ideas outside outside of keeping the left out of power but i was just been thinking a lot about that i may said about why it's always been something that something i've come up with with with friends really or friends that i've lost about how vituperative they got when jeremy came to power
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
yeah
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alexei sayle
you know, it's beyond this kind of insane hatred of the left, which is long, which is way past rational, which has to, I believe, has to have a, you know, that kind of that kind of virulent feeling has to have a kind of psychological kind of base, obviously.
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alexei sayle
And what um I was thinking really was that what Jeremy did, what the left do, is what they show these people... what they could have been and what they aren't because the left, Jeremy, and you know, are by and large moral and decent and kind and the people on the right have forsaken that for personal ambition.
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alexei sayle
And so it drives to be reminded of what they've, of how they've sold their souls ah is makes them crazy.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
yeah
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alexei sayle
And, you know, we talked a bit about this, you know, that that is the strongest thing Emotion in many ways in human beings is to deny that you've made a mistake. It is amazingly powerful and people anything to, to not admit that they're in the wrong, really, you know, then they will use drink or drugs or rage and anger.
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alexei sayle
to deny that. And that's why think these terrible people, these West Streetings and these Sinandis, why they are so vituperative in their hatred of the left is because the left shows them what they have forsaken, really.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
There it is again.
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alexei sayle
And I wish I'd thought that when I was talking to Jess. I think that's just so important, really, that... that that's what's uh that's that's where that anger comes from i think you know it's just saying this
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
yeah
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
we The country would have been ah undeniably better if we had just de supported each other.
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alexei sayle
history yeah yeah but yeah and you've you and you've you've you've sold the country out you sold the world out for some fucking designer glasses and some tickets to see us and yeah you know it's it's well this is you know it's i think some
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
it's It's infuriating and heartbreaking, yeah. And it makes me vituperative. There, I used it.
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alexei sayle
Yeah, against them. But I i think we have to just have to understand that about those people, really, that that's why. I suppose maybe those those nasty Jews as well, that some of the other attacking like people, that also comes from, that they some of them know deep down that what they're supporting is genocide and murder and colonialism and the way that they...
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alexei sayle
they um The way they dull those thoughts is through aggression and and you know violent action against trying and trying to destroy.
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alexei sayle
When they're trying to and that's trying to kind of attack Norman fin Finkelstein, what they're trying to destroy is that tiny voice in the little part of their mind that says, no, this is you are wrong. you are You're a monster.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He's li is literally a Holocaust survivor and you, his parents, excuse me, and you think you're you're speaking for the Jewish people and going up to him and doing that, like,
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alexei sayle
That's what I think.
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alexei sayle
Well, his parents were, yeah. Yeah. His parents survived the war, so... Warsaw get her. Yeah. Yeah. But it is, it's, again, their aggression is that they're trying to, they're trying to dull it, avoid, they're trying to, when they're attacking...
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alexei sayle
anti-zionist jews what they're attacking really is is that tiny voice at the back of their minds that tells them that they are wrong i believe not always some of them are just horrible people but some are yeah yeah but i do i do believe that that's a very strong anyway so we got jesper i thought she was lovely really she was really nice she's got very nice cat and yeah yeah yeah
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Or psychopathic.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But we're sitting on it. We're going to probably put it out next week or something and let the egg hatch after keeping it warm under and for a week.
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alexei sayle
Yeah. Let's not go any further with that. um Saturday.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But last week was fun. Thank you to Sammy Abuwardy for coming on last week.
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alexei sayle
Yes, he was great. was lovely.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Hats off.
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Big ups. A very dear friend. And ah you know what? He showed up to my birthday party and he went to the protest. So hats off to him.
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alexei sayle
He's a better person than you.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He's a better person.
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alexei sayle
ah so we should I think we definitely should replace you with him.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He's...
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alexei sayle
Yeah.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
yeah Yeah. He's handsomer, funnier.
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alexei sayle
That's our trusty Arabian sidekick.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He's got a more charming smile.
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alexei sayle
Yeah, he's half-Palestinian.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. Or we could you could have both of us.
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alexei sayle
Yeah, well, that's why I think we were, you know, going to have the zoo, wasn't it?
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
well Yeah, yeah.
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alexei sayle
It was going to be Steve Wright in the afternoon. Steve Wright in the afternoon.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You mentioned in that episode, as ah as a joke, as a hilarious joke, I don't i wasn't taking you seriously, but you said um yeah I would never play ah in a factory, in a fucking factory.
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alexei sayle
ah up
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
you That was a fun gag in the...
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alexei sayle
Yes.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Because Sammy was talking about ah combining anarchism, so activism and performance and
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alexei sayle
Yes, and Dario Foe, and yes.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
who I'd not heard of ah before, ah going to protests and making a performance there and stuff.
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alexei sayle
Yes.
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alexei sayle
Yes.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And then you jokingly said, oh, I would never play a factory.
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alexei sayle
yeah
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Give me my green room, my helicopter. and
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alexei sayle
yeah
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But ah that gave us that prompted someone in the Patreon chat room to send in.
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alexei sayle
e
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
His name's Conrad. He sent in a lovely message to the chat room. He was working at the Working Class Movement Library in Salford.
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alexei sayle
Yes, much supported by Maxine peak.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um um
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Sorry, my ah phone made my microphone buzz. I'll hold it further away. He says, I was working at the Working Class Movement Library in Salford yesterday, and he saw this photo of Alexei dancing in the Collectors, the Cameraman, the Poets, and the Pits Minor Strike Exhibition.
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alexei sayle
Hmm.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um So there is a It looks like you went to a miners strike and did a little dance.
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alexei sayle
Yes.
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Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
There it is there.
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alexei sayle
Yes.
00:16:46.57
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
What's going on in that picture?
00:16:47.83
alexei sayle
ah That was a tour I did of South Yorkshire during the miners' strike.
00:16:48.49
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Do you remember this?
00:16:53.17
alexei sayle
and that's I'm in a miners' institute performing, doing my comedy stylings for the people of Grimethorpe, I think it was, or Armthorpe in South Yorkshire.
00:17:06.89
alexei sayle
ah Yeah, well it's still ah it but it's still a sort of a venue.
00:17:06.97
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's so
00:17:11.03
alexei sayle
and yeah No, I did. I have done that. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:16.26
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, i just wanted to give you your props because in case anyone took your joke seriously, Mark responded with a flyer for the Miners 300.
00:17:18.12
alexei sayle
yeah
00:17:25.83
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
fight By the way, Patreon subscribers get to watch this on video, me holding up my phone to the camera with the picture.
00:17:31.18
alexei sayle
yeah
00:17:32.65
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah Miners 300 Days Benefit Cabaret. There's the lineup there and your name's on there.
00:17:39.65
alexei sayle
Where was that at? That's the
00:17:44.41
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Miner's 300-day benefit cabaret. Sunday, 6th of January. Alexi Sale.
00:17:52.02
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Where the fuck was it?
00:17:55.39
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It doesn't say. But the flying...
00:17:57.58
alexei sayle
left, isn't it?
00:17:57.89
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah But...
00:17:58.70
alexei sayle
Don't say where the thing actually is. I'm sure.
00:18:01.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's not got an address on it.
00:18:01.73
alexei sayle
of course don't say where the where that where the ah where the thing actually is
00:18:08.44
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah Jim Barkley compared it.
00:18:09.12
alexei sayle
i'm sure
00:18:11.54
alexei sayle
All right. Yes.
00:18:12.52
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Jenny Lakote was there.
00:18:12.70
alexei sayle
you remember Comedy Store OG?
00:18:16.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And then there was some actors putting on a, they put on a play written by the miners and their wives.
00:18:22.55
alexei sayle
All right. Okay.
00:18:24.74
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Hmm. And then you played in the interval for some reason while everyone's getting their drinks, apparently.
00:18:29.49
alexei sayle
Oh, fuck.
00:18:29.93
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
it's interval. But anyway, yeah, you've done your part. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
00:18:32.42
alexei sayle
I have.
00:18:32.74
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It was pretty cool to see that stuff.
00:18:32.94
alexei sayle
I have. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:35.27
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
The Patreon chat room is very, very nice and heartwarming to get to see them all chatting to each other.
00:18:39.17
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:18:41.79
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's like you've set up two friends on a date or something and they all start, they get on really well. So it's nice to see. ah But if you want to support the show, patreon.com forward slash Alexis L podcast.
00:18:53.21
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You can subscribe for as little as £3 a month, I believe. I could be wrong. um Patreon.com forward slash AlexiTelPodcast. And I always forget to say... In the description of this podcast or YouTube video, wherever you're watching or listening, the links are there.
00:19:08.21
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
So just scroll down, read the description. if you If I'm speaking too quickly or you don't know how to rewind the podcast, read the description. We've got links there on how to support the show, um where to send your emails to, et cetera.
00:19:21.32
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Thank you for everyone who is a member of the Patreon.
00:19:23.81
alexei sayle
Yes, thank you. Thank you very much.
00:19:26.10
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Mm-hmm.
00:19:26.46
alexei sayle
So upcoming events ah this Saturday and Sunday I am interviewing Ash Sarkar in...
00:19:28.50
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Mm-hmm.
00:19:36.99
alexei sayle
I'm a comedian in Bath on... Where is the comedian in Bath? On Saturday and then the Glee Club in Birmingham on Sunday.
00:19:46.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Birmingham.
00:19:47.95
alexei sayle
She's also got quite a list of people interviewing in other places. She's got... Frankie Boyle, I assume up in Scotland.
00:19:55.40
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Mm.
00:19:55.74
alexei sayle
Josie Long, former guest on the show.
00:19:58.44
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh.
00:19:59.13
alexei sayle
Robin Ince.
00:20:02.00
alexei sayle
Always Robin Ince.
00:20:02.11
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
A man.
00:20:03.48
alexei sayle
Everybody's interviewed by Robin Ince.
00:20:03.67
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. Mm.
00:20:06.06
alexei sayle
um And others, I think. So she's got quite a quite a list. But I say I'm doing Bath and Birmingham Saturday and Sunday. And then excitement mounts because March the 5th, of course, is the day that the world changes when Alexi Selle, the fifth series of Alexi Selle's Imaginary Sandwich Bar begins broadcasting on BBC Radio 4 at 6.30.
00:20:29.58
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Very exciting.
00:20:31.68
alexei sayle
It is very exciting.
00:20:33.08
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:20:33.52
alexei sayle
And this, um but that all dr yeah yeah, that's right.
00:20:33.82
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And they will all drop on BBC Sounds on the same day. Is that right?
00:20:38.49
alexei sayle
Yeah, yeah um
00:20:40.18
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
All 23 episodes. You did it in the American format this time, right?
00:20:44.32
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:20:46.17
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Season 5, 23 episodes.
00:20:46.58
alexei sayle
Guest appearance, guess yeah. Guest appearance by, I don't know.
00:20:51.01
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and
00:20:51.37
alexei sayle
Yeah, so um that that, you know, let's even if you don't listen to it, email the BBC and tell them how much you enjoyed it. ah And it is, it's political. There's stuff, I mean, but and it is, you know, it so we we we recorded quite a lot of it in December and then did more in February, but even so, the world,
00:21:13.94
alexei sayle
you feel like at the moment obviously with trump that the world changes every i'd like to go back and record some more uh stuff actually but i think it's well it's got to be delivered by tomorrow so unless i somehow might record some some more today that's that's it's locked really um
00:21:15.63
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Keeps changing, huh?
00:21:30.42
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Shit.
00:21:34.72
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You can do it now and I'll send you i'll send it to Rich for you. You can just put some canned laughter on it.
00:21:41.39
alexei sayle
I think the beer, yeah, I think the beer, you'd be able to tell when you're in. But ah anyway, so it's, anyway, that's, some it's I think it's, it's i'm glad I'm glad, I'm very glad we did the stuff in, we really did the stuff in February just to kind of bring it.
00:21:51.08
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's all right. That's what you got the podcast for. It's okay.
00:22:00.58
alexei sayle
most of it's timeless you know i mean my humor you know is not dependent on it's not topical humor so it's not dependent on specific events but it does it does very much capture the zeitgeist i think and um
00:22:04.48
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Okay.
00:22:16.24
alexei sayle
Yeah, long you know yes so that's 5th of March anyway. I i yeah i was seeing Series 3 trended at number one on Twitter for three days.
00:22:31.56
alexei sayle
ah don't really know why. I'd like to try and get that back somehow. I don't.
00:22:35.98
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Let's do Next week's episode comes out before the 5th of March.
00:22:36.00
alexei sayle
But anyway, yeah, it's ah it's ah it's ah it's it's very frank. It uses the word genocide several times, which is unusual in a comedy show, um and apartheid. and
00:22:52.12
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
so We've got that episode to plug it more.
00:22:54.88
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:22:55.43
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um If you want to tell Rich to send me any like promotional clips of it or something, I can do what I can with that.
00:23:00.18
alexei sayle
Oh, yeah, that's a good idea, idea yeah. That's a good idea.
00:23:03.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And everyone out there, spread the word, please. And get, let's get, oh man, if we were smart, we would have a big event for it.
00:23:09.98
alexei sayle
Let's get...
00:23:14.01
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
We'd like have a, we'd rent out a venue or pub or something and have a, throw a big party.
00:23:17.33
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:23:18.41
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
We'd have a listening party and then after party and stuff.
00:23:21.20
alexei sayle
Yeah. Is that what people do these days?
00:23:24.64
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Sure, yeah, like a premiere.
00:23:26.82
alexei sayle
Yeah, right. Well, but we're not.
00:23:29.75
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
No.
00:23:30.86
alexei sayle
Ha ha.
00:23:33.74
alexei sayle
So anyway, that's me. We're 23 minutes in and that's that's me pretty much done, really. um i don't know what else, you know, but having said...
00:23:43.48
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Okay, let me explain an error I made. um
00:23:47.02
alexei sayle
Yeah, self-criticism, comrade.
00:23:49.47
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yes, it's important, isn't it? um i don't want to take up too much airspace with this.
00:23:51.38
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:23:54.71
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I'm not going to over explain it, but I made a snafu on the YouTube channel. I'm not going to bore you with exactly how it happened, but I ended up...
00:24:05.81
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
all of our podcasts ended up being reposted on the YouTube channel. So there were two videos of each podcast episode.
00:24:11.51
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:24:13.21
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It meant we got a few more views. It also meant that our latest episodes, ah the viewership of them kind of got dissected between them.
00:24:20.81
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:24:22.32
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
So it looks like last episode only had seven, 800 viewers.
00:24:26.34
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:24:27.66
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's actually like double that or more than double that because the viewership got split between both videos.
00:24:29.99
alexei sayle
Right.
00:24:32.67
alexei sayle
I thought it was Zionist sabotage.
00:24:35.80
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
putting yeah it was me i was like fiddling with the youtube um i finally tried to get our videos monetized on youtube and we got rejected and it meant i meant i ended up going through a bit of a wormhole looking at our videos our podcast isn't like because there's like youtube premium and the youtube app and stuff i i thought if i'd registered our podcast as a podcast it would help
00:24:36.48
alexei sayle
In fact, it was you. Well, yeah.
00:24:57.28
alexei sayle
Hmm.
00:25:03.27
alexei sayle
Right.
00:25:03.79
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah get more listeners or or help distribution of the videos but it ended up just reposting every episode we've ever done onto the YouTube feed um but I also found out that we've have we have nearly a million views on our YouTube ah we're like 850,000 total viewers views on the YouTube channel and that's separate to our over a million listens on the podcasts app so that's very nice and promising and really cool um
00:25:10.29
alexei sayle
Okay.
00:25:16.93
alexei sayle
Oh, blimey, that's a lot, isn't it?
00:25:21.12
alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah. audio boom and so on. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:32.91
alexei sayle
yeah Yeah.
00:25:34.96
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And while I'm talking, I'll keep talking and just tell everyone, announce, shall I announce the auction result?
00:25:41.93
alexei sayle
So it was, it's, it's happened as it's yeah.
00:25:44.02
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
For the Alego Alexia, today was the deadline.
00:25:45.74
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:25:47.65
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um In our first week, it was something like 15 quid, and then it went up to 180.
00:25:51.30
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:25:55.61
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And I'm just, I'm going to do this live. I'm leaving it to the last very last second to give everyone a chance.
00:25:57.57
alexei sayle
Wow.
00:26:01.02
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah You know, Scammy bid 120. Jorvik bid 150. bid 180. Then Jorvik took it up again to 200. then we have our winner. 210 pounds goes Aljaida on Instagram. then javi took it up again to two hundred
00:26:13.43
alexei sayle
wow
00:26:14.16
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and then we have our winner two hundred and ten pounds goes to sufian al jaida on instagram He bid that a couple days ago and held on tight to his highest bid of £210.
00:26:29.67
alexei sayle
no Well, you get.
00:26:31.44
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and ten pounds Congratulations, Sufjan. um All you got to do, buddy, is ah make a donation of £210 to MAP, Medical Aid for Palestinians.
00:26:43.08
alexei sayle
Map.
00:26:45.43
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Shall I say or to your Palestinian charity of choice, if they have a preference?
00:26:48.95
alexei sayle
I know maps fine maps.
00:26:50.27
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
No, MAP is fine, Sufjan.
00:26:51.39
alexei sayle
I must be a patron or whatever.
00:26:53.25
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Go back to that website um and send me photographic evidence.
00:26:54.64
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:26:58.42
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Take a screenshot of your receipt, your invoice, whatever. Send me evidence that you made that donation. And then I will get your address off you and send you our final Lego Alexei limited edition one of five with a signed certificate of authenticity.
00:27:18.39
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Alexei Lego, Lego Alexei. I did a nice photo shoot with him and put it on the Instagram and put loads of filters on the photos and you're looking really sexy.
00:27:23.38
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:27:29.74
alexei sayle
You'd be the envy of all your friends.
00:27:32.43
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And that's going to be yours. Three of five. know why it's the middle one I held on to, but there go.
00:27:39.48
alexei sayle
Yes.
00:27:39.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Congrats, Sofiane, and thank you to everyone who took part.
00:27:41.56
alexei sayle
Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. and
00:27:45.11
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Do you want to tell us, Alexi, what film we should watch for next week's Alexi Cell Film Club?
00:27:49.95
alexei sayle
i we couldn't do We can't do Jess Bernard, can we, if we're talking about the film? Plus, I haven't i mean, I don't know, what film do you think? we should what What did we think?
00:28:01.06
alexei sayle
We thought possibly Galaxy?
00:28:02.07
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
We can. We can do Jess Bernard. Jess Bernard wasn't a full hour, so we can, like, throw to Jess Bernard, do a nice 20-minute film club at the end, give the listeners a nice meaty episode.
00:28:06.94
alexei sayle
Yeah, all right. All right.
00:28:15.11
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But you haven't thought about it.
00:28:15.15
alexei sayle
ah we could I haven't thought about it a lot, really.
00:28:16.26
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Is that what youre saying?
00:28:19.45
alexei sayle
um
00:28:20.59
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Got lots of suggestions.
00:28:21.04
alexei sayle
Galaxy Quest. Yeah, you Galaxy Quest would be one. I don't know if I feel like watching that again very much. It is a great film.
00:28:29.48
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I saw it quite recently. It is a great film.
00:28:31.17
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:28:32.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Um...
00:28:35.63
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
What else? I've got lots of suggestions in the chat room if you want to hear some.
00:28:38.10
alexei sayle
Come on, then. Yeah, on.
00:28:40.64
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But I thought, okay, I've been ignoring them because I've i've enjoyed ah your selections. but You have mentioned some. Oh, no, I'll tell you what. you've i don't want I want you to be the one who chooses them.
00:28:54.86
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And you mentioned Time Lock Films and the Bill Murray, Geena Davis films.
00:28:58.02
alexei sayle
Hmm.
00:29:00.53
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:29:04.49
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
time lock bank robbery one that's easy for me it's easy for me to find out
00:29:07.39
alexei sayle
And somebody came up with its title, which I have forgotten again. Somebody on YouTube said what it was called.
00:29:18.37
alexei sayle
Well, should we do that one then?
00:29:26.44
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
it's called quick change yeah
00:29:28.57
alexei sayle
Quick change, yeah. It's classic Bill Murray, early, sort of mid-period Bill Murray, Gina Davis, time lock, bank robbery.
00:29:38.99
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And is it...
00:29:39.39
alexei sayle
It's also about, I mean, it's it's I think it's ah it's a him and hatred towards New York, really.
00:29:45.56
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And is it like a wacky and zany silly comedy? Or has it got serious...
00:29:50.66
alexei sayle
Well, it's in a way, it's just more than that, though, because it's,
00:29:56.65
alexei sayle
No, I think it's about... um Well, I can't remember really. I mean, i know Bill Murray really hates New York and wants to get out, so he physically... i mean, the he has to physically get out of New York in a certain time before the robbery... You know, before he's captured for the for the bank robbery.
00:30:15.93
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Okay.
00:30:16.46
alexei sayle
um
00:30:19.87
alexei sayle
But... um
00:30:22.95
alexei sayle
ah I think it's about... I think it's about more, it's you know, it's it's got kind of storylines. I can't remember if Geena Davis is in love with him or in love with somebody. ah it's got It's got multiple kind of narrative strands, you know.
00:30:40.91
alexei sayle
It's not just about one thing, really.
00:30:41.49
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
okay
00:30:45.34
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah It's from 1990.
00:30:45.61
alexei sayle
Okay.
00:30:47.48
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's co-directed by Bill Murray and Howard Franklin.
00:30:50.75
alexei sayle
Okay.
00:30:53.43
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And it's both of their directorial debuts written by Howard Franklin.
00:30:56.66
alexei sayle
Oh,
00:30:59.63
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
A man dressed as a clown robs a bank.
00:31:02.20
alexei sayle
yeah. Yeah.
00:31:02.74
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
initially no one takes him seriously because he's dressed like a clown and then he succeeds and is all set to leave the city and i guess chaos ensues after that it's quite middling reviews but they tend to be good films if it's divisive
00:31:05.97
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:31:10.90
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:31:17.75
alexei sayle
Yeah, really? Yeah.
00:31:20.32
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
you
00:31:20.44
alexei sayle
Yeah, well, we could do that. Then i going to say like a time lock. So, yeah, let's...
00:31:23.81
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
you're not exploding with enthusiasm but
00:31:24.18
alexei sayle
No. No.
00:31:28.15
alexei sayle
No. But, you know.
00:31:32.57
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Well, would you be willing to watch that in the next week and we discuss it?
00:31:33.96
alexei sayle
Be all right.
00:31:36.54
alexei sayle
What's the clock? keep forgetting what it's called.
00:31:38.11
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Quick change from 1990.
00:31:38.17
alexei sayle
That's a big... Quick change. Quick change. Quick change.
00:31:42.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And it's timely because I guess ah Saturday Night Live just had their 50th anniversary and Bill Murray came back and did a quite funny bit on there.
00:31:42.47
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:31:50.82
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:31:51.25
alexei sayle
Yeah, he's an inch I don't know a lot about him, but i think he's quite an interesting... I mean, there's been some negative stuff about him, I think, but he's He's kind of a very interesting character, isn't he, on on and off screen, really?
00:31:57.29
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:32:08.39
alexei sayle
You know, you hear interesting stories about him.
00:32:13.88
alexei sayle
I watched the... um There's a movie about la about the opening night, the Saturday Night Live, which I've seen...
00:32:15.06
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, it's controversial.
00:32:20.80
alexei sayle
which is kind of interesting really. It's about, you know, doing live TV, which I have done with Britain's slightly strange attempt at Saturday Night Live, which was Chris Tarrantin called OTT.
00:32:38.76
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh yeah.
00:32:39.05
alexei sayle
um and But ah it brought back that feeling of doing live TV,
00:32:47.45
alexei sayle
you know, which is a, which is a Which is an amazing thing. what were talking about why Were we talking about... we talking to Sammy about the big breakfast?
00:32:59.96
alexei sayle
I can't remember. Who were we talking about?
00:33:00.95
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
No, me and you chatted about that.
00:33:02.63
alexei sayle
right, yeah.
00:33:03.30
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Because, yeah, I watched a film about it.
00:33:03.44
alexei sayle
but to Just how amazing that was to be to be on it, you know.
00:33:06.26
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and Yeah.
00:33:10.67
alexei sayle
be sitting alone in a front room of this house and then a camera crew runs in and then somebody says, oh, do this, and immediately, know, it's going out live. to the nation
00:33:21.15
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I found your clip and you you got um interviewed by Lily Savage on the bed.
00:33:27.56
alexei sayle
yeah does he but I was ah did I did it a lot really yeah be back walking yeah alright okay yeah yeah
00:33:28.38
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And then Burt Kwok comes in, like kicks the door down and jumps on the bed. Yeah. The guy who did all the ah Pink Panther films, was that him? No, the guy did the Pink Panther. Yeah, he did all. He kept jumping out all throughout the episode of Big Breakfast and like surprising whoever was on camera with some Kung Fu and...
00:33:50.08
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, that was, it was funny. And you were very like sweet.
00:33:52.40
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:33:54.10
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You're talking about your tour, but you're being very sweet.
00:33:54.45
alexei sayle
Was I...
00:33:56.42
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's like, I guess you're, yes, early in the morning, you're lying on the bed with Lily Savage.
00:33:58.37
alexei sayle
was just It was early in the morning.
00:34:04.45
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:34:05.23
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um I recommend our listeners look it up on YouTube.
00:34:06.64
alexei sayle
Paul. Yeah, he's a nice guy. Yeah.
00:34:09.81
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, Paul, yeah.
00:34:13.48
alexei sayle
You sent me a photo during the week of your of your dad with Yasser Arafat.
00:34:18.24
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:34:19.19
alexei sayle
We have a in one episode of... um of Sandwich Bar, we have a a poem written by vendor.
00:34:23.05
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Was
00:34:28.86
alexei sayle
They used to have poetry, I don't they still do, in the back of the Big Issue magazine, written by the vendors, their homeless vendors. And there was a poem written by Vendor 511 called The Intifada, which goes, he might be short, he might be fat, but we love Yasser Arafat.
00:34:47.17
alexei sayle
um
00:34:47.92
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
that a while ago, was it?
00:34:48.10
alexei sayle
And, oh, yeah, there was...
00:34:50.89
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I'll show this to the Patreon viewers.
00:34:52.96
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:34:53.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I'll hold the video, at the picture up to the screen there.
00:34:54.60
alexei sayle
But he is is is short there. Your dad towers over him.
00:34:59.39
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, my dad's not the tallest guy and Yasser's even shorter than him.
00:35:01.56
alexei sayle
No. Yeah. yeah When was that?
00:35:04.37
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, my dad interviewed him ah a number of times.
00:35:04.90
alexei sayle
Right.
00:35:06.45
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
My dad's interviewed Muhammad Ali.
00:35:06.92
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:35:08.21
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
My dad sat down with Maggie Thatcher. My dad was a journalist and
00:35:12.22
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:35:13.17
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He was the ah head of the Foreign Press Association here in London for two terms. He was the head of that. And so many, many, many ah big names.
00:35:19.76
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:35:22.79
alexei sayle
You used to that thing on BBC, was it News 24, Deadline London or whatever, didn't
00:35:27.49
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Dateline London.
00:35:27.99
alexei sayle
Dateline London, yeah.
00:35:28.92
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:35:30.25
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:35:30.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And I think Chris Kramer is there. No, that's from The Siege. Sorry, I'm blanking on your name, but the the producer of Dateline London and my dad. ah You mentioned it last week with Sammy and I ah failed to bring it up, but ah they had a media training business as well.
00:35:49.52
alexei sayle
Oh, yeah.
00:35:50.13
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It was kind of like post-retirement for my dad, but like it was a side hustle if anyone wanted.
00:35:52.37
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:35:56.06
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
People who had not been on TV and then suddenly a thrust because of world events and onto the news to be interviewed.
00:36:02.65
alexei sayle
Well, that's... ah well i mean, we we we did touch on that with Jess Bernard, didn't we? How, you know, media training might come in useful.
00:36:09.39
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh, was it with Jess we spoke about? Yeah, not Sammy.
00:36:11.07
alexei sayle
I think it was, yeah, yeah.
00:36:12.06
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:13.01
alexei sayle
it was with Jess, just...
00:36:13.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
how A lot of people on the left need, or Jeremy needed some media training.
00:36:14.07
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:36:16.51
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Or maybe that was his charm that he didn't have any.
00:36:16.89
alexei sayle
Yeah. He didn't have it, but others probably do need it, really. And I said that great... I hope Mick Lynch, when he retires from his the head of the RMT, he should definitely, because he he seems to be the...
00:36:27.24
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You should start.
00:36:33.80
alexei sayle
epis I mean, he's not that left. I mean, some of the... Because I know he supported the Labour Party of late, but... um um I thought he was the perfect left person to be on, you know, the media really. And they would try and catch him out with these gotcha questions and he would just blast through them really, you know.
00:37:00.04
alexei sayle
So, yeah. So Mick, if you're listening, yeah, start that media training business when you retire. think it would be a boon to the left.
00:37:12.60
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
To the left, to the left. Hey, Alexei, tell us your, for people who don't, uh, aren't aware, or ah tell us your memories of Yasser Arafat or what do you know about him? I'll i'll give you the headline.
00:37:25.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He was the president of the Palestinian National Authority. He died in 2004.
00:37:30.40
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:37:31.50
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You know, I was just a teenager then. So my memories of exact details of of his life and story are vague, but I know he was a symbol of, um,
00:37:42.58
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Here's what know, he he almost made a two-state solution happen, didn't he?
00:37:45.99
alexei sayle
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
00:37:47.31
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And he he spent years formulating an agreement that finally Israel agreed with. But then i think, is that when Israel's president got assassinated and it all fell apart?
00:38:01.24
alexei sayle
uh robin i i'm not sure i think it was as i you know i mean i remember hillary clinton saying you know if the plo had agreed with the plan for put forward by my husband we'd be talking about 25 years of the palestinian state now i think that i think in in in in actuality i mean somebody more knowledgeable than me should could talk about this but i think in actuality israel was never going to yeah, that that the the Oslo Accords has just been a holding agreement whereby allowed Egypt, I think, to normalise relations with Israel. It allowed the go Gulf States normalise to a degree the relations and it just allowed Israel to carry on with its um annexation of Palestinian lands. I don't think it was ever really going to happen.
00:38:52.85
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But for a time there was a socialist kind of leadership in Israel and and it was the right wing that caused that abrupt ending to the talks and are who are now in power now.
00:38:52.95
alexei sayle
But, I mean, it is.
00:38:57.07
alexei sayle
Well, that's an interesting... Yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:39:06.27
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
no
00:39:06.52
alexei sayle
um Yes, although i think the i mean I think the Israeli left were always compromised by the fact that Israel is ah you know he' a settler colonial.
00:39:14.45
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Occupation, yeah.
00:39:16.34
alexei sayle
apartheid state i don and I don't see how you can be a socialist really and and support that state really the only thing that you could do as a socialist was really to support the I mean the dissolution of that state as an apartheid state and so you would you would you could only you you would have to advocate for um um for human rights for all people living on that land and then
00:39:39.11
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
you
00:39:43.09
alexei sayle
by definition, it would cease to be a you know a state in which only Jews have rights, which is the case at the moment. ah So I don't know how you square that circle, really.
00:39:56.59
alexei sayle
I forgot my word. But yes, I mean, it's an interesting question, really.
00:40:00.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yasa Arfa
00:40:02.55
alexei sayle
And it was something we could get an expert on to talk about some point, because it was that clearly the resistance to... um is to israel the the palestinian resistance was in the early days entirely ah secular and by and large marxists know the people's liberation from you know the all those various groups where and uh arafat himself the plo were secular and then the resistance now is entirely ah religious based i mean they are
00:40:25.81
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
a Yeah.
00:40:42.43
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
At its foundation, yeah.
00:40:42.66
alexei sayle
oh Yeah, they are. you know they' be
00:40:46.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But you could easily argue Israel funded that Islamification of...
00:40:46.64
alexei sayle
and the
00:40:49.11
alexei sayle
Well, israel was was yes Israel was instrumental in the founding of Hamas.
00:40:54.82
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Mm-hmm.
00:40:54.84
alexei sayle
And while they are not, I don't think that they're not, um I mean, what's the difference? They're not they're not like i mean They try and make pretend that Hamas and ah Islamic Jihad and so on are like ISIS, and they're not because they only have one they're not interested in establishing a caliphate. They have only one enemy, and that enemy is Israel, as I understand it.
00:41:19.93
alexei sayle
So they're not interested as you know like ISIS are and in in were in you know expanding, you know found in this brutal yeah world domination kind of thing.
00:41:26.92
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
World domination.
00:41:30.67
alexei sayle
So, um but it's an interesting, I don't know, be interesting to find out. I mean, and it's not just that the resistance is now entirely political Islam, but also that the Palestine, what was the PLO, has devolved into this quizzling government that yeah carries out the ah The wishes, you know, just aids and, you know, cooperates with Israel in the suppression of recent, yeah, the Palestinian Authority, which isn't entirely corrupt and, you know, is very much, you know, just acts as Israel's, Israel's agent in the West Bank, really.
00:41:58.35
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Talking about the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Yeah, and they're corrupt as fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:09.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's so frustrating. As an Arab, it's so frustrating that we just can't have anything nice, you know.
00:42:12.57
alexei sayle
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:16.78
alexei sayle
Well, I mean, I think, I mean, they are terribly powerful. You know, I mean, I think we' we're talking with some, you know, with, you know, when people say, where is, where is, you know, the Palestinian Mandela?
00:42:27.72
alexei sayle
Well, when ah whenever, is you know, whenever a Mandela, like a unifying figure ever arose, they would be, Israel would either kill them
00:42:36.72
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yep. Yep.
00:42:37.67
alexei sayle
or jail them really and i mean the most obviously is um one of her but when the bargootis uh you the one that's been in prison for god knows how long now um uh
00:42:49.59
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Mm hmm.
00:42:51.56
alexei sayle
ah
00:42:53.99
alexei sayle
So it's it's it's very difficult for, you know an elite you know, I think a Palestinian leader to to appear, you know, being subverted in so many ways. Nevertheless, it seems, I mean, the the behavior of the Palestinian Authority is despicable.
00:43:11.20
alexei sayle
And it's I don't know, yeah, we could maybe get somebody on to talk about how all that happened, really. And I suppose we could talk about how also...
00:43:18.64
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
there's a
00:43:22.54
alexei sayle
know the rise of political islam really and what what what it is that gives that its sustaining power because mean certainly i mean the in many ways the government of iran for instance you know is is as corrupt you know many iranian friends and they talk about the you know fundamental corruption in iran so it's not there it's not that they are free from materialistic corruption because they're i think the know the revolutionary guard corps and so on in iran is corrupt as anybody but nevertheless there is something about political islam that has sustained it in a way that secular ideas and secular movements of
00:44:05.95
alexei sayle
cause to be fallen by the wayside so it would be interesting to have an examination of of what it is in those secular movements which doom them and what it is about radical political Islam that sustains it really is the one thing that gives a kind of gallum resistance in the Middle East that's staying power
00:44:27.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Well, the easy answer is that that's what the enemy wants is they want the Arab resistance to look like a fanatical maniacs.
00:44:33.91
alexei sayle
yes that's true
00:44:34.10
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And they want the only democracy in Palestine to be corrupt and hated or to be feared so that they have an argument and they can just keep saying terrorist and point their fingers while bombs drop on them.
00:44:43.97
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:44:48.00
alexei sayle
Yeah. Not that, I mean, not that in any conventional sense the PA is. I mean, when's last time they had elections in the West Bank?
00:44:55.87
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Hmm.
00:44:56.58
alexei sayle
Yes. A long time ago.
00:44:57.78
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
as if they'd be allowed any and what's happening now in the West Bank is awful.
00:45:01.25
alexei sayle
Yep.
00:45:01.30
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And there was some, uh, there was a televised Israeli interview with, was it with Dr. Omar or there's another doctor who's been arrested and Hussain something.
00:45:19.08
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I'm my memory so bad with names.
00:45:20.29
alexei sayle
I don't know. i think that supposedly they're releasing the one from the
00:45:21.80
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Um,
00:45:25.19
alexei sayle
and hospital. They walk towards the tank. I know they've been starving him and beating him.
00:45:30.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
The one who they arrested is at the Indonesian hospital in Gaza.
00:45:34.28
alexei sayle
No, this was the L. I see hospital.
00:45:38.93
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Well, there was the fella um who, the pediatricist who was working at the Indonesian hospital in Gaza when it was blown up and they ended up, you know, the hospital was basically a bunch of tents outside the site of the hospital and they accused him of harboring, giving safe, um,
00:45:43.95
alexei sayle
right.
00:45:51.17
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:45:56.59
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:45:59.08
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Haven to Hamas and storing weapons for them and stuff in the hospital. And he's been arrested for ages.
00:46:03.74
alexei sayle
mutual advice Yeah.
00:46:05.08
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And the people have been hashtagging like, where is Dr.
00:46:09.89
alexei sayle
yeah
00:46:10.35
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
want to say Hussein or Hussam.
00:46:12.84
alexei sayle
ah yes soen yeah
00:46:14.25
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And they finally had... they they finally showed him on Israeli TV being interviewed by a journalist and he was just, it was an interrogation. It wasn't an interview and he's in shackles surrounded by IDF soldiers or prison guards, heavily armored guns pointing at him.
00:46:29.49
alexei sayle
All
00:46:30.78
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
This guy shackled and being quizzed and interrogated about why they were storing weapons. And he's like, I literally, podiatrist, I do surgery on little children.
00:46:41.53
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Like,
00:46:41.67
alexei sayle
right. I have not seen this.
00:46:43.18
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And they they like break him. they At one point, they start shoving him and stuff on TV.
00:46:49.79
alexei sayle
Back. Back.
00:46:50.42
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And he starts trembling. And it's it's just the most...
00:46:56.06
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
it's It's just really fucked, man.
00:46:56.08
alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah. This is what, this is what you're Tracy Ann Oberman's supporting.
00:47:04.79
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And he's like, I don't even work at that hospital. I went to that hospital because my hospital got blown up. like
00:47:11.28
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:47:14.87
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yasser Arafat's real name, full name. I love Arabic names so much. Muhammad Abdul Rahman Abdul Raoof Arafat Al Qudwa Al Hussein.
00:47:27.96
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
The longest fucking name in the world. um He's iconic dude. I'd love to Maybe I'll do a bit of reading about him. Maybe I'll give you a little lecture next week.
00:47:37.10
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:47:38.46
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And I know Sammy would know so much if we ever had him back.
00:47:42.53
alexei sayle
I think he he also turned out to be a disappointment, really.
00:47:47.34
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Sammy.
00:47:48.23
alexei sayle
No, not Sami, but Yasser Arafat.
00:47:52.09
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah
00:47:52.37
alexei sayle
I mentioned that in Sandwich Bar.
00:47:52.83
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
He turned out to be a human being, not a god, you know.
00:47:55.48
alexei sayle
Well, yeah, but yeah. Yeah. It's difficult, but you know.
00:48:01.73
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and is difficult.
00:48:02.35
alexei sayle
me
00:48:05.40
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
or I'll do some reading. If anyone wants to help me in the Patreon, and send me messages, send me your little opinions and bios, and I'll collate info, and I'll talk to my family about him.
00:48:08.70
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:48:11.56
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:48:17.05
alexei sayle
There's a very... There's a really interesting... not to plug the streamers really, there's a very interesting, very nice little Japanese, half-hour Japanese sort of comedy on Netflix, I think, called The Hotspot.
00:48:34.45
alexei sayle
It's about this woman who works in a hotel in the foot in the kind of at the base of Mount Fuji.
00:48:40.09
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Is it narrative or or reality?
00:48:40.44
alexei sayle
But it's a comedy. it's a Yeah, it's a drama, comedy drama.
00:48:42.79
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Okay.
00:48:45.33
alexei sayle
but her co-worker is um and eight or an alien or is half alien. um But it's mostly about sort of domestic stuff, really. It's not really about... It's a really... It's a bit authoritarian in tone in many ways, but it's it's a really sweet... If anybody's watching it or wants to talk about it, it's a really interesting, very different...
00:49:09.49
alexei sayle
um program uh they'd show it they they drop it week by week really so you can't you you can't binge on it but it's it's called the hot spot and it's it's um fascinating i think amazing really funny performances very japanese i think in a sense uh yeah yeah so i've been watching that we watched
00:49:19.91
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh, that looks great.
00:49:27.28
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's great. I'm looking at it now. Yeah, it looks fantastic. um
00:49:35.09
alexei sayle
The aftermath, which is, he's I mean, there's a whole episode of Imaginary Sandwich Bar where the guest is ah is a is a a form of special forces assassin hiding out in the suburbs, you know, because every every other Netflix or Amazon you know movie is about...
00:49:56.29
alexei sayle
form a special you know blah blah but there's one called aftermath which is you know which is sub um diehard is it is in this case he's an ex-us army ranger stuck with his little sister on a bridge that's been captured by terrorists um for reasons i can't now remember um actually
00:50:16.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Who stars in that?
00:50:18.24
alexei sayle
Nobody, actually. that You won't really recognize anybody. They're all people who are certainly new to me. But um it's it's a decent watch if you're looking for something.
00:50:29.61
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
The movie from 2019.
00:50:32.23
alexei sayle
It's from 2019, really.
00:50:38.32
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh, it's got Alexander Skarsgård and Keira Knightley in it.
00:50:41.31
alexei sayle
No, that's not that one, then.
00:50:41.82
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's all right.
00:50:42.75
alexei sayle
That's a different one.
00:50:43.91
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's not it.
00:50:44.29
alexei sayle
Aftermath, that's not that.
00:50:46.50
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's called The Aftermath, bro.
00:50:48.45
alexei sayle
No, I don't know what the hell that is. No, this is just called aftermath.
00:50:51.34
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
So is this? Oh, Aftermath. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:58.24
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
On Boston's Tobin Memorial Bridge.
00:51:01.83
alexei sayle
That's right. Yes, yes.
00:51:03.60
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Five stars.
00:51:06.64
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, no one famous in it. Okay, take it back. yeah um what is and you Is that or another recommend from you? It's a movie.
00:51:13.43
alexei sayle
Relatively speaking, if you want a brainless kind of sub diehard.
00:51:14.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um B-movie.
00:51:20.40
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I re-watched in the last seven days. I've watched Die Hard 2 and Die Hard with a Vengeance. And... reminded myself how much I love those, that series of films.
00:51:31.65
alexei sayle
Yeah, ah to I said when we were in l LA, we went to the Nakatomi Plaza, which is actually in Century City to pay homage.
00:51:32.65
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
The third one, especially the third one.
00:51:36.91
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh, wow.
00:51:43.00
alexei sayle
That film is the greatest. I mean, I remember coming out the first one and feeling like when you come out into the street and the world feels different, really. you know You're so pumped up by that first movie.
00:51:54.18
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
he
00:51:55.38
alexei sayle
I think I was stop it and you're walking in front of cars and stuff. I felt so...
00:52:02.08
alexei sayle
full of, like I was still in the film.
00:52:03.85
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I think throughout the 80s, all the action films in the 80s, it was leading up to that because that's 1988. And I think that's the film they were trying to make. Like when the action star, action hero, action set pieces, ah villain, it's all just pinnacle.
00:52:12.37
alexei sayle
Right.
00:52:18.05
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:52:20.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's all just the best, isn't it?
00:52:22.05
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:52:22.58
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It can't be praised enough. And I know it's not an underrated film, but it can't be praised enough.
00:52:27.00
alexei sayle
No.
00:52:27.22
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um And I want to recommend something though that not everyone
00:52:29.94
alexei sayle
Die Hard 2 is again, i mean, there's also an episode of Sandwich Bar, which is about, it's partly about sequels, really. I don't really mention, but Die Hard 2 is one of those where the sequel is a match to the original, really.
00:52:42.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's really cool, really creative.
00:52:42.67
alexei sayle
In some ways, our pain is even better. Yeah.
00:52:46.51
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
They could have done it in another tower, in another city, you know, ah but they didn't.
00:52:50.03
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:52:50.83
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It was like, let's do it completely different, but have so many throwback, callbacks to the first film.
00:52:56.42
alexei sayle
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:57.93
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And the characters.
00:52:58.28
alexei sayle
It's like a bad a bad follow-up sequel is like Speed 2, which is just like Speed, but it's on a boat.
00:53:03.85
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:53:06.48
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. this That's not the way to do it.
00:53:08.24
alexei sayle
It's terrible. No.
00:53:10.71
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Need something new.
00:53:12.51
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:53:12.62
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah So that's in an airport and then the third and it's different director and and writer on the second one. But then the third one, they bring the writer and director of the first one back.
00:53:20.13
alexei sayle
Yeah. yeah
00:53:22.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But it's again so different. It's sprawled across the whole of New York and it's just a race.
00:53:25.68
alexei sayle
That's one with Samuel L. Jackson.
00:53:27.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah.
00:53:27.79
alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:29.28
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's the only question but is that they've thrown in a black guy and his main trait is that he hates white people and like, okay.
00:53:35.33
alexei sayle
Yeah. yeah
00:53:37.51
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Well, because it's so long ago, that's I'll let it slide.
00:53:39.80
alexei sayle
yeah yeah
00:53:40.71
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
but he is just But his performance in that is so fantastic.
00:53:44.51
alexei sayle
yeah
00:53:45.59
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and A brilliant film, um number three. And I remember the PlayStation 1 game, Die Hard Trilogy, where you would play through each one of those films.
00:53:58.25
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And it's brilliant. um Very gory. But I wanted to recommend another Japanese thing. There's a film on YouTube. 45 minute long film called Yusuf Days in Japan. Yusuf Days is a jazz drummer and he's got an amazing band, really fantastic musician.
00:54:18.41
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
um yousef Y-U-S-S-E-F. Yusuf Days in Japan is a film he made of a trip to Japan And there's, and his it's a blend between a live performance and a documentary of him going around Japan talking to really interesting people.
00:54:36.90
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But the live performance is at the base of Mount Fuji.
00:54:40.75
alexei sayle
Oh, okay.
00:54:40.92
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And it's it's done outdoors and it's not done to an audience.
00:54:41.63
alexei sayle
all All right.
00:54:43.96
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's just done to a camera crew.
00:54:44.29
alexei sayle
Right. Okay.
00:54:46.40
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and with a couple of with a guest ah musician for a couple of the songs, this Japanese and musician who plays a traditional instrument. And the backdrop is Mount Fuji. And you can sometimes just hear the wind rustling through the trees.
00:55:00.22
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And the music is so good and shot so beautifully. can't recommend it enough.
00:55:04.98
alexei sayle
That sounds good.
00:55:05.12
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's soul soothing stuff.
00:55:06.87
alexei sayle
And to bring it all back, said one of the great, I think, a movie I loved at the time, I've seen since, is Lost in Translation with Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson set in Japan.
00:55:16.09
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:55:21.20
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's right. That's a great film.
00:55:23.86
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:55:24.38
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And a good reminder, listeners, readers, sorry, by next week, your homework is to watch Quick Change. That's your homework too, Alexei, and my homework too, Talal.
00:55:39.46
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
1990s Quick Change with Bill Murray and Gina Davis.
00:55:41.33
alexei sayle
Okay. Really?
00:55:42.70
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Gina Davis used to be an Olympian archer. Yeah, before she was a film star.
00:55:47.85
alexei sayle
I didn't know that.
00:55:50.11
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
that
00:55:50.16
alexei sayle
Wow.
00:55:50.60
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
yeah I love her to pieces, actually.
00:55:54.53
alexei sayle
Then she made a pirate movie directed by her husband, and it which ended their career, really, called Throat Island.
00:55:54.76
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
have
00:56:01.50
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
not seen Cutthroat Island.
00:56:01.91
alexei sayle
So I think it was called Cutthroat Island. It sort of ended. It was one of those movies that just ended their career.
00:56:11.32
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and Well, of course she's...
00:56:12.30
alexei sayle
Rather like other right lack reckless Kelly for me.
00:56:14.85
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Why was it really, really terrible?
00:56:21.16
alexei sayle
I've never worked since. I've literally never worked since.
00:56:24.69
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
No, you were in Casualty for three episodes, Alexei.
00:56:26.79
alexei sayle
Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah.
00:56:29.83
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Of course, she's incredible Theopthelma and Louise, but ah The Long Kiss Goodnight, her her action film.
00:56:32.90
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:56:35.53
alexei sayle
Yes. Well, isn't that one? That's the original. i mean, that's one, the original, when it was still... That's the hit man, hit woman with with amnesia, isn't it? It's that one.
00:56:47.70
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, she's...
00:56:47.80
alexei sayle
Long kiss, goodnight. Yeah.
00:56:49.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
That's right.
00:56:49.57
alexei sayle
but it was that was where Where that was an original idea before that had been used 20,000 fucking times.
00:56:55.34
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. And then Bourne Identity perfected it.
00:56:58.96
alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:59.51
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yes, she gradually remembers her past. She's a government agent.
00:57:02.00
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:57:04.26
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And I haven't seen this since... Basically since I was a kid. it's written by Shane Black. That explains why it's so good. And it's got Sam L. Jackson in it. But I remember this scene where she's like stuck. She's trapped somewhere.
00:57:16.86
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And she like pours lighter fluid. She makes a little funnel out of some card and pours lighter fluid into a crack and blows her way out of this.
00:57:20.78
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:57:26.10
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I can't remember exactly. Or she's like trying to break open a door or something.
00:57:27.60
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:57:29.02
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But um she's slowly remembering her skills, her secret agent skills.
00:57:31.86
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:57:32.76
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and she's so She's so charming.
00:57:32.82
alexei sayle
yeah
00:57:35.80
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and It's weird that she's not really done anything recently. Maybe one day we could do the long kiss goodnight.
00:57:42.90
alexei sayle
yeah
00:57:44.03
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
and is it in our film club where's her film I want to see the latest thing she's done oh she's like a producer now well
00:57:47.25
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:57:58.72
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
at least she's still working
00:57:58.76
alexei sayle
Does she want?
00:58:04.84
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
oh no fuck off she's in blink twice which came out last year She still acts.
00:58:08.63
alexei sayle
What's that?
00:58:09.42
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
She still acts a lot.
00:58:09.48
alexei sayle
Does she?
00:58:10.26
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah, Blink Twice was Lenny Kravitz's daughter, Zoe Kravitz's directorial debut.
00:58:12.64
alexei sayle
What?
00:58:15.66
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
She played Catwoman in the new Batman film.
00:58:16.15
alexei sayle
I don't anything about that.
00:58:19.43
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Not her hugest fan. And she's in Glow, which I haven't watched yet, but you sing praises of Glow. Uh-huh.
00:58:25.35
alexei sayle
I liked it first, got tired of it.
00:58:28.89
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Anyway, Geena Davis.
00:58:29.17
alexei sayle
Interesting Kate Nash acting in that British singer-songwriter.
00:58:35.17
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right on that absolute cracking bombshell there.
00:58:44.54
alexei sayle
Yeah.
00:58:45.41
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah Watch Quick Change before next week. Support our Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Alexa Tell Podcast. If you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment, press the like button. We get thousands of views, but only hundreds of likes, thumbs ups on YouTube.
00:58:58.25
alexei sayle
Yeah, more of that.
00:58:58.48
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
So give us those.
00:58:59.21
alexei sayle
We need more. Apparently we need more of that stuff.
00:59:00.27
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
If you're listening on your podcast apps, please leave a little review um and tell us what you think of the show. ah let me You know what? Let me see our... Before we, let me tell you our latest review. I'll read one out. Maybe yours will get read out on the show too.
00:59:17.74
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Okay, here's our, here's our reviews. Okay, this, someone wrote this on Tuesday. The Jones. Oh, time and again, this five-star review on Apple Podcasts.
00:59:31.32
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Time and again, Alexi Sale provides a true left-wing compass to guide us through those horrible times.
00:59:31.58
alexei sayle
Eh...
00:59:38.51
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
A real people's treasure. P.S. Where do you get the music? My friend's four-year-old loved it when it came out came on in the car and was upset when it faded and he started talking.
00:59:51.75
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Oh, well, nice question there, buddy. That's Tarboosh Records makes our music. Tarboosh Records is my brother and his ah childhood best mate who lives out in Dubai.
01:00:03.76
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
They are a little record company called Tarbush Records. um You can find them on SoundCloud and YouTube and Instagram. And there is a link in the description of the podcast.
01:00:15.10
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Click on the Tarbush Records and it will take you to whatever I've linked it to.
01:00:22.12
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
There you go. Music by Tabush Records. You click it, takes you to their Instagram page. And through there, you can find all the links to their websites and stuff. Thanks for being a fan of the music. I will post the full version of this song on our YouTube channel. How's that, Alexi?
01:00:35.78
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
What do you think?
01:00:36.08
alexei sayle
That's great.
01:00:37.07
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Our intro music. It is a nice song, isn't it?
01:00:40.37
alexei sayle
Yeah, I was thinking that, listening to it before.
01:00:43.67
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
When we first met, not when we first met, but when we first met to discuss doing the podcast, we met at that cafe in central London, sunny day, we were sitting in the street table.
01:00:53.27
alexei sayle
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:00:55.55
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
And I said, oh, Lexi, what kind of music are you thinking for the theme music for the show? And you looked up at me, you nodded and he went, hip hop.
01:01:07.68
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I was like, yes, this guy is a bad man. want to make his podcast, bro.
01:01:17.03
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
All right. Been a pleasure.
01:01:18.50
alexei sayle
And yeah yes, me too.
01:01:18.51
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
ah think we've run out of time.
01:01:20.18
alexei sayle
Yes, we should.
01:01:20.65
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Any last words?
01:01:22.13
alexei sayle
No, I really haven't. I suppose I should talk a bit more about Mr. Trump and Mr. Musk some point, but not now.
01:01:30.33
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
my God. He fired like 4,000 people from the... but the part of the government that regulates planes and then the next day a plane like somersaulted onto the runway and exploded
01:01:39.33
alexei sayle
Yeah. and anyway Yeah, and he blames, well, that was in Canada, but yes, he blames somebody else.
01:01:45.15
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
it was an American plane Delta and then he fired most recently fired thousands
01:01:46.70
alexei sayle
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.
01:01:52.27
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
of staff from the national parks, um
01:01:56.06
alexei sayle
yeah
01:01:58.17
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
which is, I think the most appealing thing about America is its natural beauty and it's why I wanna go there the most.
01:02:05.85
alexei sayle
yeah
01:02:06.76
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
But to think that there's no one there to regulate like the bears, bear attacks and stuff makes me not wanna go so much anymore. But it's disgusting behavior, fucking
01:02:14.62
alexei sayle
no Yeah.
01:02:19.06
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
iing And my dad always said, when America sneezes, and Britain gets a cold, which means, you know, give it a few years and we'll be going down the same road, kind of thing.
01:02:28.63
alexei sayle
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:02:32.92
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
I wonder if that's true.
01:02:33.27
alexei sayle
Well, yes, we'll certainly feel the effects of... Yeah. Maybe ill i don't I don't quite know what I think really at the moment, so...
01:02:44.56
alexei sayle
But ah I'll formulate a viewpoint and then...
01:02:46.18
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Thank
01:02:48.43
alexei sayle
communicate it
01:02:50.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Almost makes you vituperative, really.
01:02:53.44
alexei sayle
ah
01:02:56.59
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It's my word of the day. I thank you for teaching me a new word. I looked up.
01:02:59.05
alexei sayle
yeah well Kim I don't I don't think you're using it quite correctly there I see but uh that's fine yeah but it's more like a description of a thing I'm very bad on grammar but it's
01:02:59.45
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It means bitter and a...
01:03:06.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
It says it means bitter and aggressive.
01:03:11.65
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
but Bitter and abusive.
01:03:13.30
alexei sayle
Yeah, but it's like, speak your spirit i don't think you can i suppose you can feel vituperative, but it's more likely that your speech, or specifically your speech, would be vituperative.
01:03:14.19
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
A vituperative outburst.
01:03:25.36
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You're right. You're right. It's more as the synonyms are like scolding and scathing.
01:03:27.55
alexei sayle
yeah
01:03:30.14
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You can't feel scolding.
01:03:30.62
alexei sayle
Yeah.
01:03:31.70
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
You have to be scolding.
01:03:32.29
alexei sayle
Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah, well, it's your second language, isn't it?
01:03:35.83
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Well, I tried, all right.
01:03:40.67
Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal
Fuck you. Say goodbye.
01:03:43.39
alexei sayle
Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
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