00:00:00.59 alexei sayle Hi everybody, welcome 72 of the alexi Sale podcast.

00:00:07.68 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Podcast, podcast, podcast.

00:00:09.25 alexei sayle Podcast,

00:00:13.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So how do you feel enjoying enjoying doing these more laid-back, conversational, loosey-mugusey, not pristine, not polished,

00:00:28.47 alexei sayle And, well, you know, I'm i'm desperate, obviously desperate for the recognition of strangers. So the fact that this proves it's slightly more popular than what we were doing before, and you know, also also

00:00:50.05 alexei sayle helps. I think also it's actually better to, I mean, it it it gives me, in a sense, it's a way to... respond in a small way to the events of the week so um i think i appreciate having that outlet really yeah um and um yeah so so that's also you know to just talk about what's going on during the week is is i think better than waiting

00:00:59.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. yeah

00:01:05.14 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal A little outlet. Yeah.

00:01:17.54 alexei sayle I think either waiting for her an invitation to go on Laura Koonsberg or, you know, writing an angry letter to the Camden New Journal or...

00:01:21.66 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:01:30.59 alexei sayle you know, whatever really, there there is a way in, in, in, obviously in a small way to, to, to respond and that, that's, that's useful. I mean, it's useful just to get that out, but I think it's also useful a, hopefully as a, you know, the, in the broader context of my, of my, of my work really to, to do that.

00:01:50.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah well glad to hear that um

00:01:51.06 alexei sayle Yeah. So, Yeah, so, well, there I mean, several things. Obviously, I went on the... Did you... you on the demo on Saturday? I went on the...

00:02:00.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal i can't lie i had i missed it yeah i know i'm sorry

00:02:02.56 alexei sayle Were you, traitor?

00:02:06.67 alexei sayle Well, I was there.

00:02:07.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It was my birthday weekend and I was extremely, extremely in pain.

00:02:09.67 alexei sayle Oh, yeah, so you're getting fucked up, isn't it?

00:02:11.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, was hungover.

00:02:12.37 alexei sayle Yeah. um Well, I was there representing the Alexis L podcast and it was big.

00:02:18.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes.

00:02:20.85 alexei sayle I mean, ah i mean I think PSA is well over 100,000, possibly 200,000.

00:02:21.88 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It looked huge.

00:02:26.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. Yeah.

00:02:26.65 alexei sayle two hundred thousand amazingly well behaved as normal. And ah yeah, you know, it's it's like it's kind of got, um you know you know, obviously one hopes that something more will grow out of these demonstrations. And you sent yeah the fact that we can get 150,000, 200,000 people on the streets 15, 16 months in is is is remarkable, really.

00:02:52.78 alexei sayle I didn't, I just, um I didn't, I wasn't at the head or anything. I just walked along with me. with me new, with me bicycle, yeah.

00:02:59.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal classic style did you take your um long staff your short staff with you

00:03:01.69 alexei sayle And,

00:03:04.73 alexei sayle no, I think I'll probably get, I mean, it'd be viewed as a weapon, wouldn't it?

00:03:08.66 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal no it's walking stick it's all right as long as you have a white beard you're allowed to hold a long stick there's this fellow who goes to my supermarket and i just i want to interview him or something he's like

00:03:09.99 alexei sayle Yeah, well, i yeah, could discuss.

00:03:14.98 alexei sayle Yeah, well...

00:03:23.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Older guy bigger guy, white beard, long hair in like a long ponytail. And he he rides a mobility scooter around the supermarket.

00:03:32.76 alexei sayle there Right.

00:03:34.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And his scooter is like adorned with like strings and like shells and stuff. And he carries this staff, like a Gandalf style staff.

00:03:44.90 alexei sayle Okay.

00:03:44.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And he's he's basically an elderly Viking on a mobility scooter.

00:03:48.82 alexei sayle Right. Is is is mobility scooter one of them easy rider ones like we saw in Canvey Island that time?

00:03:49.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He gives off.

00:03:54.60 alexei sayle Or is it just an ordinary one?

00:03:55.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal like It's a three-wheeler.

00:03:56.98 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:03:57.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's a three-wheeler.

00:03:58.67 alexei sayle They're all three wheelers.

00:03:58.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh.

00:03:59.55 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:04:00.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal uh so it's not well do you get these big four-wheeler ones easier yeah it's ah it's like almost a motorbike is that what you mean like it looks this looking and he just he's just so cool and collected and he's got a basket on the front of his scooter and when he reverses round corners it makes the most horrendous noise this but he's always smiling and he's just this this supermarket viking and i fucking love him um

00:04:00.60 alexei sayle that's what's... Yeah.

00:04:07.10 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:04:18.16 alexei sayle Yeah,

00:04:26.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Why am I saying that? Oh yeah, because of your long staff, short staff.

00:04:28.45 alexei sayle yeah because the staff, you think probably if he's attacked, he could use it as

00:04:33.22 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal if he Yeah, he's got some protection.

00:04:33.77 alexei sayle as a weapon.

00:04:36.69 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um And it's nothing more satisfying than seeing those videos, the aerial shot of the march, when they shoot the bridge, and then you you see the road along the river behind it, and it's just masses of people

00:04:44.75 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:04:50.48 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:04:51.00 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And you're seeing like the bridge is completely packed and all the way down the river, the road is completely packed and it just shows you such a good ah ah showing of the scale of it and how many people are there.

00:04:58.97 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:05:03.63 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's so satisfied to see that.

00:05:03.97 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:05:04.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I was gutted not to make it this time.

00:05:05.99 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah, well, there's a, yeah, I mean, there's a, the counter, as we get bigger and bigger, the shitty little counter demonstrations of Zionists seems to get smaller and smaller as well.

00:05:08.16 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah

00:05:17.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's good.

00:05:17.57 alexei sayle Very tiny little group. But sort of talking of that, I know it's reading in the garden, there's a very, very good documentary on BBC at the moment called, think, How to Survive a War Zone about children three children in Gaza and the, um some of those, the pro-Israel bastards have dug up the fact that the main narrator, this kid, is the son of the deputy agricultural minister of the Hamas government.

00:05:32.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh my God.

00:05:45.45 alexei sayle And therefore, you know, they're saying, how could you have a documentary about you know, narrated by the son of a terrorist, yeah.

00:05:51.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal About the son of a terrorist.

00:05:54.41 alexei sayle ah So, and there' I think there's 45 of those pro-Israeli shites, Danny Cohen, Tracy Ann Oberman, those people have sent in a letter to the BBC asking that he...

00:06:08.87 alexei sayle not be shown again, but it is, I think it's still up at the moment. The BBC have, I've been shown some bravery for once and I've added a, just an explanation of who the kid is, I think, and have refused to take it down the moment.

00:06:20.75 alexei sayle It might be an idea if somebody on our side, uh, organizes a, you know, a letter. I mean, one commending the i email, commending the BBC for making it, but also, you know, the usual you know Jewish, uh, employees of,

00:06:28.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:06:34.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's true. As much as we as much as we throw, or not we, as much as ah people will throw red paint at their doors and protest, it's important also to say this is right when they do something right.

00:06:43.49 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:06:47.81 alexei sayle Yeah, when they do something, yeah. Yeah, so it might i'm I mean, I don't really know how to...

00:06:50.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's a matter of record, isn't it?

00:06:53.76 alexei sayle I might try and speak to some some people ah this morning to get that organised.

00:06:59.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Open letter.

00:07:00.00 alexei sayle It is a counter kind of... Counter...

00:07:05.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you know I'm grateful for? I haven't seen evidence of in this country, but you see it in America, like footage of people in New York being hounded by these Zionist mouthpiece, like agit agitators,

00:07:16.62 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:07:19.00 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal like following someone filming them and saying, terrorist, you're a fucking terrorist.

00:07:21.06 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:07:22.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You wearing that terrorist rag around your neck. Hey there, terrorist. Hey. And like, they'll go up to like Finkelstein and like hand, hand him a beeper.

00:07:29.82 alexei sayle Yeah. Put it in his top pocket.

00:07:31.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So this is for you.

00:07:32.85 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:07:33.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and like, ah you know, just real agitating, like trying to rile these people up and get them.

00:07:34.91 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:07:39.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It seems like they're trying to get them to do something violent so that they can get arrested or something.

00:07:41.92 alexei sayle Hmm.

00:07:44.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um Whereas at least here, when, when we have protests, the, the,

00:07:48.63 alexei sayle well, they're corralled in.

00:07:49.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal They're corralled in and separate.

00:07:49.97 alexei sayle You used to get that outside Palestinian meetings. You get the, or way of sticking their phones in your face.

00:07:53.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah?

00:07:56.52 alexei sayle And, but ah yeah, they're usually, well, on the demos, they're kept behind the barrier, really.

00:07:59.03 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Try to get you to say something bad or...

00:08:02.91 alexei sayle So, yeah. Yeah.

00:08:06.12 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal These Americans, man.

00:08:07.07 alexei sayle They are hateful. They are, i've seen 40, they are hateful, those fucking people, really.

00:08:10.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:08:12.23 alexei sayle So, yeah.

00:08:12.56 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I can't imagine not punching him in the face if he came up to me like that.

00:08:14.62 alexei sayle Exactly. That's the, yeah. Let's get,

00:08:17.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Or like grabbing his phone, throwing it

00:08:19.92 alexei sayle Yeah, but then like they start squealing assault, assault.

00:08:20.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal At least.

00:08:23.32 alexei sayle I've seen them do that over here. ah But also...

00:08:26.57 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You're in America. Surely someone would have shot them by now because it's ah assault my ass.

00:08:27.91 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:08:31.65 alexei sayle Well, no. Yeah.

00:08:34.12 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal that's I thought that was the American way.

00:08:36.52 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:08:36.90 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But they're they're the good guys. So they're not going to shoot them, are they? They're not going to rise to it.

00:08:42.79 alexei sayle No, no winner. No, no. ah There's also, actually, it's interesting interesting. We've got a treat coming up for you. I think maybe next week or the week after we interviewed Jess Bernard, who's, well, she's chair head of, she's on the, still on the Labour Party, NEC,

00:09:01.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes.

00:09:01.79 alexei sayle and and is head of,

00:09:03.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal She's an inside agitator.

00:09:07.75 alexei sayle Yeah, and his head of was had is still head of Young Labour, which yeah like which obviously the Starmarites have done everything they can to...

00:09:11.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Labour youth. Yeah.

00:09:20.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I should have memorized her credentials.

00:09:22.78 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:09:23.04 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal She's a member of the NEC.

00:09:25.14 alexei sayle remember that Yeah,

00:09:25.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal This is her current ah bio.

00:09:28.32 alexei sayle NEC is the National Executive Council, yeah.

00:09:28.61 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Labour NEC member, socialist and trade unionist, youth worker, organiser. She was a councillor for Labour Party.

00:09:38.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And yeah, she tells us about how difficult it's been being a real socialist in Labour.

00:09:41.96 alexei sayle Yeah. Well, actually, that was the thing that I was trying to... One of the things I was thinking about was just... is what One of the things she talked about was... I'm thinking a bit just about how the only thing that unites the Labour right, really, the only really strong ideological kind of glue that they have in many ways is their absolute hatred of...

00:10:09.26 alexei sayle the left just that more than anything else and that you can see that in that having beaten the left and got into power they don't now and don't know what to do with power because they have no ideas outside outside of keeping the left out of power but i was just been thinking a lot about that i may said about why it's always been something that something i've come up with with with friends really or friends that i've lost about how vituperative they got when jeremy came to power

00:10:09.98 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:10:21.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah

00:10:38.60 alexei sayle you know, it's beyond this kind of insane hatred of the left, which is long, which is way past rational, which has to, I believe, has to have a, you know, that kind of that kind of virulent feeling has to have a kind of psychological kind of base, obviously.

00:10:56.90 alexei sayle And what um I was thinking really was that what Jeremy did, what the left do, is what they show these people... what they could have been and what they aren't because the left, Jeremy, and you know, are by and large moral and decent and kind and the people on the right have forsaken that for personal ambition.

00:11:19.82 alexei sayle And so it drives to be reminded of what they've, of how they've sold their souls ah is makes them crazy.

00:11:26.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah

00:11:28.82 alexei sayle And, you know, we talked a bit about this, you know, that that is the strongest thing Emotion in many ways in human beings is to deny that you've made a mistake. It is amazingly powerful and people anything to, to not admit that they're in the wrong, really, you know, then they will use drink or drugs or rage and anger.

00:11:51.14 alexei sayle to deny that. And that's why think these terrible people, these West Streetings and these Sinandis, why they are so vituperative in their hatred of the left is because the left shows them what they have forsaken, really.

00:12:01.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal There it is again.

00:12:07.96 alexei sayle And I wish I'd thought that when I was talking to Jess. I think that's just so important, really, that... that that's what's uh that's that's where that anger comes from i think you know it's just saying this

00:12:16.13 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah

00:12:20.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal we The country would have been ah undeniably better if we had just de supported each other.

00:12:21.86 alexei sayle history yeah yeah but yeah and you've you and you've you've you've sold the country out you sold the world out for some fucking designer glasses and some tickets to see us and yeah you know it's it's well this is you know it's i think some

00:12:36.60 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal it's It's infuriating and heartbreaking, yeah. And it makes me vituperative. There, I used it.

00:12:42.85 alexei sayle Yeah, against them. But I i think we have to just have to understand that about those people, really, that that's why. I suppose maybe those those nasty Jews as well, that some of the other attacking like people, that also comes from, that they some of them know deep down that what they're supporting is genocide and murder and colonialism and the way that they...

00:13:09.77 alexei sayle they um The way they dull those thoughts is through aggression and and you know violent action against trying and trying to destroy.

00:13:20.62 alexei sayle When they're trying to and that's trying to kind of attack Norman fin Finkelstein, what they're trying to destroy is that tiny voice in the little part of their mind that says, no, this is you are wrong. you are You're a monster.

00:13:36.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's li is literally a Holocaust survivor and you, his parents, excuse me, and you think you're you're speaking for the Jewish people and going up to him and doing that, like,

00:13:36.75 alexei sayle That's what I think.

00:13:40.54 alexei sayle Well, his parents were, yeah. Yeah. His parents survived the war, so... Warsaw get her. Yeah. Yeah. But it is, it's, again, their aggression is that they're trying to, they're trying to dull it, avoid, they're trying to, when they're attacking...

00:13:58.75 alexei sayle anti-zionist jews what they're attacking really is is that tiny voice at the back of their minds that tells them that they are wrong i believe not always some of them are just horrible people but some are yeah yeah but i do i do believe that that's a very strong anyway so we got jesper i thought she was lovely really she was really nice she's got very nice cat and yeah yeah yeah

00:14:12.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Or psychopathic.

00:14:23.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But we're sitting on it. We're going to probably put it out next week or something and let the egg hatch after keeping it warm under and for a week.

00:14:31.61 alexei sayle Yeah. Let's not go any further with that. um Saturday.

00:14:37.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But last week was fun. Thank you to Sammy Abuwardy for coming on last week.

00:14:40.43 alexei sayle Yes, he was great. was lovely.

00:14:42.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hats off.

00:14:43.25 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:14:43.27 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Big ups. A very dear friend. And ah you know what? He showed up to my birthday party and he went to the protest. So hats off to him.

00:14:51.56 alexei sayle He's a better person than you.

00:14:52.55 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's a better person.

00:14:53.96 alexei sayle ah so we should I think we definitely should replace you with him.

00:14:54.46 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's...

00:14:57.41 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:14:57.61 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah Yeah. He's handsomer, funnier.

00:15:00.84 alexei sayle That's our trusty Arabian sidekick.

00:15:01.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He's got a more charming smile.

00:15:03.77 alexei sayle Yeah, he's half-Palestinian.

00:15:04.00 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. Or we could you could have both of us.

00:15:07.53 alexei sayle Yeah, well, that's why I think we were, you know, going to have the zoo, wasn't it?

00:15:11.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal well Yeah, yeah.

00:15:12.55 alexei sayle It was going to be Steve Wright in the afternoon. Steve Wright in the afternoon.

00:15:17.77 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You mentioned in that episode, as ah as a joke, as a hilarious joke, I don't i wasn't taking you seriously, but you said um yeah I would never play ah in a factory, in a fucking factory.

00:15:22.21 alexei sayle ah up

00:15:29.33 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you That was a fun gag in the...

00:15:31.77 alexei sayle Yes.

00:15:31.94 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Because Sammy was talking about ah combining anarchism, so activism and performance and

00:15:37.96 alexei sayle Yes, and Dario Foe, and yes.

00:15:40.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal who I'd not heard of ah before, ah going to protests and making a performance there and stuff.

00:15:40.34 alexei sayle Yes.

00:15:46.16 alexei sayle Yes.

00:15:46.34 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And then you jokingly said, oh, I would never play a factory.

00:15:48.75 alexei sayle yeah

00:15:49.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Give me my green room, my helicopter. and

00:15:51.92 alexei sayle yeah

00:15:51.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But ah that gave us that prompted someone in the Patreon chat room to send in.

00:15:57.12 alexei sayle e

00:15:58.47 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal His name's Conrad. He sent in a lovely message to the chat room. He was working at the Working Class Movement Library in Salford.

00:16:10.01 alexei sayle Yes, much supported by Maxine peak.

00:16:10.16 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um um

00:16:13.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Sorry, my ah phone made my microphone buzz. I'll hold it further away. He says, I was working at the Working Class Movement Library in Salford yesterday, and he saw this photo of Alexei dancing in the Collectors, the Cameraman, the Poets, and the Pits Minor Strike Exhibition.

00:16:24.46 alexei sayle Hmm.

00:16:35.49 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um So there is a It looks like you went to a miners strike and did a little dance.

00:16:43.98 alexei sayle Yes.

00:16:44.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal There it is there.

00:16:45.80 alexei sayle Yes.

00:16:46.57 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What's going on in that picture?

00:16:47.83 alexei sayle ah That was a tour I did of South Yorkshire during the miners' strike.

00:16:48.49 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Do you remember this?

00:16:53.17 alexei sayle and that's I'm in a miners' institute performing, doing my comedy stylings for the people of Grimethorpe, I think it was, or Armthorpe in South Yorkshire.

00:17:06.89 alexei sayle ah Yeah, well it's still ah it but it's still a sort of a venue.

00:17:06.97 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's so

00:17:11.03 alexei sayle and yeah No, I did. I have done that. Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:16.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, i just wanted to give you your props because in case anyone took your joke seriously, Mark responded with a flyer for the Miners 300.

00:17:18.12 alexei sayle yeah

00:17:25.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal fight By the way, Patreon subscribers get to watch this on video, me holding up my phone to the camera with the picture.

00:17:31.18 alexei sayle yeah

00:17:32.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah Miners 300 Days Benefit Cabaret. There's the lineup there and your name's on there.

00:17:39.65 alexei sayle Where was that at? That's the

00:17:44.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Miner's 300-day benefit cabaret. Sunday, 6th of January. Alexi Sale.

00:17:52.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Where the fuck was it?

00:17:55.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It doesn't say. But the flying...

00:17:57.58 alexei sayle left, isn't it?

00:17:57.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah But...

00:17:58.70 alexei sayle Don't say where the thing actually is. I'm sure.

00:18:01.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's not got an address on it.

00:18:01.73 alexei sayle of course don't say where the where that where the ah where the thing actually is

00:18:08.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah Jim Barkley compared it.

00:18:09.12 alexei sayle i'm sure

00:18:11.54 alexei sayle All right. Yes.

00:18:12.52 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Jenny Lakote was there.

00:18:12.70 alexei sayle you remember Comedy Store OG?

00:18:16.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And then there was some actors putting on a, they put on a play written by the miners and their wives.

00:18:22.55 alexei sayle All right. Okay.

00:18:24.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm. And then you played in the interval for some reason while everyone's getting their drinks, apparently.

00:18:29.49 alexei sayle Oh, fuck.

00:18:29.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal it's interval. But anyway, yeah, you've done your part. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

00:18:32.42 alexei sayle I have.

00:18:32.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It was pretty cool to see that stuff.

00:18:32.94 alexei sayle I have. Yeah. Yeah.

00:18:35.27 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal The Patreon chat room is very, very nice and heartwarming to get to see them all chatting to each other.

00:18:39.17 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:18:41.79 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's like you've set up two friends on a date or something and they all start, they get on really well. So it's nice to see. ah But if you want to support the show, patreon.com forward slash Alexis L podcast.

00:18:53.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You can subscribe for as little as £3 a month, I believe. I could be wrong. um Patreon.com forward slash AlexiTelPodcast. And I always forget to say... In the description of this podcast or YouTube video, wherever you're watching or listening, the links are there.

00:19:08.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So just scroll down, read the description. if you If I'm speaking too quickly or you don't know how to rewind the podcast, read the description. We've got links there on how to support the show, um where to send your emails to, et cetera.

00:19:21.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Thank you for everyone who is a member of the Patreon.

00:19:23.81 alexei sayle Yes, thank you. Thank you very much.

00:19:26.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm-hmm.

00:19:26.46 alexei sayle So upcoming events ah this Saturday and Sunday I am interviewing Ash Sarkar in...

00:19:28.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm-hmm.

00:19:36.99 alexei sayle I'm a comedian in Bath on... Where is the comedian in Bath? On Saturday and then the Glee Club in Birmingham on Sunday.

00:19:46.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Birmingham.

00:19:47.95 alexei sayle She's also got quite a list of people interviewing in other places. She's got... Frankie Boyle, I assume up in Scotland.

00:19:55.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm.

00:19:55.74 alexei sayle Josie Long, former guest on the show.

00:19:58.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh.

00:19:59.13 alexei sayle Robin Ince.

00:20:02.00 alexei sayle Always Robin Ince.

00:20:02.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal A man.

00:20:03.48 alexei sayle Everybody's interviewed by Robin Ince.

00:20:03.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. Mm.

00:20:06.06 alexei sayle um And others, I think. So she's got quite a quite a list. But I say I'm doing Bath and Birmingham Saturday and Sunday. And then excitement mounts because March the 5th, of course, is the day that the world changes when Alexi Selle, the fifth series of Alexi Selle's Imaginary Sandwich Bar begins broadcasting on BBC Radio 4 at 6.30.

00:20:29.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Very exciting.

00:20:31.68 alexei sayle It is very exciting.

00:20:33.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:20:33.52 alexei sayle And this, um but that all dr yeah yeah, that's right.

00:20:33.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And they will all drop on BBC Sounds on the same day. Is that right?

00:20:38.49 alexei sayle Yeah, yeah um

00:20:40.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal All 23 episodes. You did it in the American format this time, right?

00:20:44.32 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:20:46.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Season 5, 23 episodes.

00:20:46.58 alexei sayle Guest appearance, guess yeah. Guest appearance by, I don't know.

00:20:51.01 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and

00:20:51.37 alexei sayle Yeah, so um that that, you know, let's even if you don't listen to it, email the BBC and tell them how much you enjoyed it. ah And it is, it's political. There's stuff, I mean, but and it is, you know, it so we we we recorded quite a lot of it in December and then did more in February, but even so, the world,

00:21:13.94 alexei sayle you feel like at the moment obviously with trump that the world changes every i'd like to go back and record some more uh stuff actually but i think it's well it's got to be delivered by tomorrow so unless i somehow might record some some more today that's that's it's locked really um

00:21:15.63 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Keeps changing, huh?

00:21:30.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Shit.

00:21:34.72 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You can do it now and I'll send you i'll send it to Rich for you. You can just put some canned laughter on it.

00:21:41.39 alexei sayle I think the beer, yeah, I think the beer, you'd be able to tell when you're in. But ah anyway, so it's, anyway, that's, some it's I think it's, it's i'm glad I'm glad, I'm very glad we did the stuff in, we really did the stuff in February just to kind of bring it.

00:21:51.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's all right. That's what you got the podcast for. It's okay.

00:22:00.58 alexei sayle most of it's timeless you know i mean my humor you know is not dependent on it's not topical humor so it's not dependent on specific events but it does it does very much capture the zeitgeist i think and um

00:22:04.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Okay.

00:22:16.24 alexei sayle Yeah, long you know yes so that's 5th of March anyway. I i yeah i was seeing Series 3 trended at number one on Twitter for three days.

00:22:31.56 alexei sayle ah don't really know why. I'd like to try and get that back somehow. I don't.

00:22:35.98 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Let's do Next week's episode comes out before the 5th of March.

00:22:36.00 alexei sayle But anyway, yeah, it's ah it's ah it's ah it's it's very frank. It uses the word genocide several times, which is unusual in a comedy show, um and apartheid. and

00:22:52.12 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal so We've got that episode to plug it more.

00:22:54.88 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:22:55.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um If you want to tell Rich to send me any like promotional clips of it or something, I can do what I can with that.

00:23:00.18 alexei sayle Oh, yeah, that's a good idea, idea yeah. That's a good idea.

00:23:03.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And everyone out there, spread the word, please. And get, let's get, oh man, if we were smart, we would have a big event for it.

00:23:09.98 alexei sayle Let's get...

00:23:14.01 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal We'd like have a, we'd rent out a venue or pub or something and have a, throw a big party.

00:23:17.33 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:23:18.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal We'd have a listening party and then after party and stuff.

00:23:21.20 alexei sayle Yeah. Is that what people do these days?

00:23:24.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Sure, yeah, like a premiere.

00:23:26.82 alexei sayle Yeah, right. Well, but we're not.

00:23:29.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No.

00:23:30.86 alexei sayle Ha ha.

00:23:33.74 alexei sayle So anyway, that's me. We're 23 minutes in and that's that's me pretty much done, really. um i don't know what else, you know, but having said...

00:23:43.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Okay, let me explain an error I made. um

00:23:47.02 alexei sayle Yeah, self-criticism, comrade.

00:23:49.47 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes, it's important, isn't it? um i don't want to take up too much airspace with this.

00:23:51.38 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:23:54.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm not going to over explain it, but I made a snafu on the YouTube channel. I'm not going to bore you with exactly how it happened, but I ended up...

00:24:05.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal all of our podcasts ended up being reposted on the YouTube channel. So there were two videos of each podcast episode.

00:24:11.51 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:24:13.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It meant we got a few more views. It also meant that our latest episodes, ah the viewership of them kind of got dissected between them.

00:24:20.81 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:24:22.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So it looks like last episode only had seven, 800 viewers.

00:24:26.34 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:24:27.66 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's actually like double that or more than double that because the viewership got split between both videos.

00:24:29.99 alexei sayle Right.

00:24:32.67 alexei sayle I thought it was Zionist sabotage.

00:24:35.80 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal putting yeah it was me i was like fiddling with the youtube um i finally tried to get our videos monetized on youtube and we got rejected and it meant i meant i ended up going through a bit of a wormhole looking at our videos our podcast isn't like because there's like youtube premium and the youtube app and stuff i i thought if i'd registered our podcast as a podcast it would help

00:24:36.48 alexei sayle In fact, it was you. Well, yeah.

00:24:57.28 alexei sayle Hmm.

00:25:03.27 alexei sayle Right.

00:25:03.79 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah get more listeners or or help distribution of the videos but it ended up just reposting every episode we've ever done onto the YouTube feed um but I also found out that we've have we have nearly a million views on our YouTube ah we're like 850,000 total viewers views on the YouTube channel and that's separate to our over a million listens on the podcasts app so that's very nice and promising and really cool um

00:25:10.29 alexei sayle Okay.

00:25:16.93 alexei sayle Oh, blimey, that's a lot, isn't it?

00:25:21.12 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah. audio boom and so on. Yeah. Yeah.

00:25:32.91 alexei sayle yeah Yeah.

00:25:34.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And while I'm talking, I'll keep talking and just tell everyone, announce, shall I announce the auction result?

00:25:41.93 alexei sayle So it was, it's, it's happened as it's yeah.

00:25:44.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal For the Alego Alexia, today was the deadline.

00:25:45.74 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:25:47.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um In our first week, it was something like 15 quid, and then it went up to 180.

00:25:51.30 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:25:55.61 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I'm just, I'm going to do this live. I'm leaving it to the last very last second to give everyone a chance.

00:25:57.57 alexei sayle Wow.

00:26:01.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah You know, Scammy bid 120. Jorvik bid 150. bid 180. Then Jorvik took it up again to 200. then we have our winner. 210 pounds goes Aljaida on Instagram. then javi took it up again to two hundred

00:26:13.43 alexei sayle wow

00:26:14.16 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and then we have our winner two hundred and ten pounds goes to sufian al jaida on instagram He bid that a couple days ago and held on tight to his highest bid of £210.

00:26:29.67 alexei sayle no Well, you get.

00:26:31.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and ten pounds Congratulations, Sufjan. um All you got to do, buddy, is ah make a donation of £210 to MAP, Medical Aid for Palestinians.

00:26:43.08 alexei sayle Map.

00:26:45.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Shall I say or to your Palestinian charity of choice, if they have a preference?

00:26:48.95 alexei sayle I know maps fine maps.

00:26:50.27 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, MAP is fine, Sufjan.

00:26:51.39 alexei sayle I must be a patron or whatever.

00:26:53.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Go back to that website um and send me photographic evidence.

00:26:54.64 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:26:58.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Take a screenshot of your receipt, your invoice, whatever. Send me evidence that you made that donation. And then I will get your address off you and send you our final Lego Alexei limited edition one of five with a signed certificate of authenticity.

00:27:18.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Alexei Lego, Lego Alexei. I did a nice photo shoot with him and put it on the Instagram and put loads of filters on the photos and you're looking really sexy.

00:27:23.38 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:27:29.74 alexei sayle You'd be the envy of all your friends.

00:27:32.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And that's going to be yours. Three of five. know why it's the middle one I held on to, but there go.

00:27:39.48 alexei sayle Yes.

00:27:39.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Congrats, Sofiane, and thank you to everyone who took part.

00:27:41.56 alexei sayle Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. and

00:27:45.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Do you want to tell us, Alexi, what film we should watch for next week's Alexi Cell Film Club?

00:27:49.95 alexei sayle i we couldn't do We can't do Jess Bernard, can we, if we're talking about the film? Plus, I haven't i mean, I don't know, what film do you think? we should what What did we think?

00:28:01.06 alexei sayle We thought possibly Galaxy?

00:28:02.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal We can. We can do Jess Bernard. Jess Bernard wasn't a full hour, so we can, like, throw to Jess Bernard, do a nice 20-minute film club at the end, give the listeners a nice meaty episode.

00:28:06.94 alexei sayle Yeah, all right. All right.

00:28:15.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But you haven't thought about it.

00:28:15.15 alexei sayle ah we could I haven't thought about it a lot, really.

00:28:16.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Is that what youre saying?

00:28:19.45 alexei sayle um

00:28:20.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Got lots of suggestions.

00:28:21.04 alexei sayle Galaxy Quest. Yeah, you Galaxy Quest would be one. I don't know if I feel like watching that again very much. It is a great film.

00:28:29.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I saw it quite recently. It is a great film.

00:28:31.17 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:28:32.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Um...

00:28:35.63 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What else? I've got lots of suggestions in the chat room if you want to hear some.

00:28:38.10 alexei sayle Come on, then. Yeah, on.

00:28:40.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But I thought, okay, I've been ignoring them because I've i've enjoyed ah your selections. but You have mentioned some. Oh, no, I'll tell you what. you've i don't want I want you to be the one who chooses them.

00:28:54.86 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And you mentioned Time Lock Films and the Bill Murray, Geena Davis films.

00:28:58.02 alexei sayle Hmm.

00:29:00.53 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:29:04.49 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal time lock bank robbery one that's easy for me it's easy for me to find out

00:29:07.39 alexei sayle And somebody came up with its title, which I have forgotten again. Somebody on YouTube said what it was called.

00:29:18.37 alexei sayle Well, should we do that one then?

00:29:26.44 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal it's called quick change yeah

00:29:28.57 alexei sayle Quick change, yeah. It's classic Bill Murray, early, sort of mid-period Bill Murray, Gina Davis, time lock, bank robbery.

00:29:38.99 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And is it...

00:29:39.39 alexei sayle It's also about, I mean, it's it's I think it's ah it's a him and hatred towards New York, really.

00:29:45.56 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And is it like a wacky and zany silly comedy? Or has it got serious...

00:29:50.66 alexei sayle Well, it's in a way, it's just more than that, though, because it's,

00:29:56.65 alexei sayle No, I think it's about... um Well, I can't remember really. I mean, i know Bill Murray really hates New York and wants to get out, so he physically... i mean, the he has to physically get out of New York in a certain time before the robbery... You know, before he's captured for the for the bank robbery.

00:30:15.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Okay.

00:30:16.46 alexei sayle um

00:30:19.87 alexei sayle But... um

00:30:22.95 alexei sayle ah I think it's about... I think it's about more, it's you know, it's it's got kind of storylines. I can't remember if Geena Davis is in love with him or in love with somebody. ah it's got It's got multiple kind of narrative strands, you know.

00:30:40.91 alexei sayle It's not just about one thing, really.

00:30:41.49 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal okay

00:30:45.34 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah It's from 1990.

00:30:45.61 alexei sayle Okay.

00:30:47.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's co-directed by Bill Murray and Howard Franklin.

00:30:50.75 alexei sayle Okay.

00:30:53.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And it's both of their directorial debuts written by Howard Franklin.

00:30:56.66 alexei sayle Oh,

00:30:59.63 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal A man dressed as a clown robs a bank.

00:31:02.20 alexei sayle yeah. Yeah.

00:31:02.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal initially no one takes him seriously because he's dressed like a clown and then he succeeds and is all set to leave the city and i guess chaos ensues after that it's quite middling reviews but they tend to be good films if it's divisive

00:31:05.97 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:31:10.90 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:31:17.75 alexei sayle Yeah, really? Yeah.

00:31:20.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you

00:31:20.44 alexei sayle Yeah, well, we could do that. Then i going to say like a time lock. So, yeah, let's...

00:31:23.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you're not exploding with enthusiasm but

00:31:24.18 alexei sayle No. No.

00:31:28.15 alexei sayle No. But, you know.

00:31:32.57 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, would you be willing to watch that in the next week and we discuss it?

00:31:33.96 alexei sayle Be all right.

00:31:36.54 alexei sayle What's the clock? keep forgetting what it's called.

00:31:38.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Quick change from 1990.

00:31:38.17 alexei sayle That's a big... Quick change. Quick change. Quick change.

00:31:42.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And it's timely because I guess ah Saturday Night Live just had their 50th anniversary and Bill Murray came back and did a quite funny bit on there.

00:31:42.47 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:31:50.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:31:51.25 alexei sayle Yeah, he's an inch I don't know a lot about him, but i think he's quite an interesting... I mean, there's been some negative stuff about him, I think, but he's He's kind of a very interesting character, isn't he, on on and off screen, really?

00:31:57.29 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:32:08.39 alexei sayle You know, you hear interesting stories about him.

00:32:13.88 alexei sayle I watched the... um There's a movie about la about the opening night, the Saturday Night Live, which I've seen...

00:32:15.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, it's controversial.

00:32:20.80 alexei sayle which is kind of interesting really. It's about, you know, doing live TV, which I have done with Britain's slightly strange attempt at Saturday Night Live, which was Chris Tarrantin called OTT.

00:32:38.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh yeah.

00:32:39.05 alexei sayle um and But ah it brought back that feeling of doing live TV,

00:32:47.45 alexei sayle you know, which is a, which is a Which is an amazing thing. what were talking about why Were we talking about... we talking to Sammy about the big breakfast?

00:32:59.96 alexei sayle I can't remember. Who were we talking about?

00:33:00.95 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, me and you chatted about that.

00:33:02.63 alexei sayle right, yeah.

00:33:03.30 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Because, yeah, I watched a film about it.

00:33:03.44 alexei sayle but to Just how amazing that was to be to be on it, you know.

00:33:06.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and Yeah.

00:33:10.67 alexei sayle be sitting alone in a front room of this house and then a camera crew runs in and then somebody says, oh, do this, and immediately, know, it's going out live. to the nation

00:33:21.15 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I found your clip and you you got um interviewed by Lily Savage on the bed.

00:33:27.56 alexei sayle yeah does he but I was ah did I did it a lot really yeah be back walking yeah alright okay yeah yeah

00:33:28.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And then Burt Kwok comes in, like kicks the door down and jumps on the bed. Yeah. The guy who did all the ah Pink Panther films, was that him? No, the guy did the Pink Panther. Yeah, he did all. He kept jumping out all throughout the episode of Big Breakfast and like surprising whoever was on camera with some Kung Fu and...

00:33:50.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, that was, it was funny. And you were very like sweet.

00:33:52.40 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:33:54.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You're talking about your tour, but you're being very sweet.

00:33:54.45 alexei sayle Was I...

00:33:56.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's like, I guess you're, yes, early in the morning, you're lying on the bed with Lily Savage.

00:33:58.37 alexei sayle was just It was early in the morning.

00:34:04.45 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:34:05.23 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um I recommend our listeners look it up on YouTube.

00:34:06.64 alexei sayle Paul. Yeah, he's a nice guy. Yeah.

00:34:09.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, Paul, yeah.

00:34:13.48 alexei sayle You sent me a photo during the week of your of your dad with Yasser Arafat.

00:34:18.24 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:34:19.19 alexei sayle We have a in one episode of... um of Sandwich Bar, we have a a poem written by vendor.

00:34:23.05 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Was

00:34:28.86 alexei sayle They used to have poetry, I don't they still do, in the back of the Big Issue magazine, written by the vendors, their homeless vendors. And there was a poem written by Vendor 511 called The Intifada, which goes, he might be short, he might be fat, but we love Yasser Arafat.

00:34:47.17 alexei sayle um

00:34:47.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal that a while ago, was it?

00:34:48.10 alexei sayle And, oh, yeah, there was...

00:34:50.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'll show this to the Patreon viewers.

00:34:52.96 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:34:53.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'll hold the video, at the picture up to the screen there.

00:34:54.60 alexei sayle But he is is is short there. Your dad towers over him.

00:34:59.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, my dad's not the tallest guy and Yasser's even shorter than him.

00:35:01.56 alexei sayle No. Yeah. yeah When was that?

00:35:04.37 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, my dad interviewed him ah a number of times.

00:35:04.90 alexei sayle Right.

00:35:06.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal My dad's interviewed Muhammad Ali.

00:35:06.92 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:35:08.21 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal My dad sat down with Maggie Thatcher. My dad was a journalist and

00:35:12.22 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:35:13.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He was the ah head of the Foreign Press Association here in London for two terms. He was the head of that. And so many, many, many ah big names.

00:35:19.76 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:35:22.79 alexei sayle You used to that thing on BBC, was it News 24, Deadline London or whatever, didn't

00:35:27.49 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Dateline London.

00:35:27.99 alexei sayle Dateline London, yeah.

00:35:28.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:35:30.25 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:35:30.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I think Chris Kramer is there. No, that's from The Siege. Sorry, I'm blanking on your name, but the the producer of Dateline London and my dad. ah You mentioned it last week with Sammy and I ah failed to bring it up, but ah they had a media training business as well.

00:35:49.52 alexei sayle Oh, yeah.

00:35:50.13 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It was kind of like post-retirement for my dad, but like it was a side hustle if anyone wanted.

00:35:52.37 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:35:56.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal People who had not been on TV and then suddenly a thrust because of world events and onto the news to be interviewed.

00:36:02.65 alexei sayle Well, that's... ah well i mean, we we we did touch on that with Jess Bernard, didn't we? How, you know, media training might come in useful.

00:36:09.39 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, was it with Jess we spoke about? Yeah, not Sammy.

00:36:11.07 alexei sayle I think it was, yeah, yeah.

00:36:12.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:13.01 alexei sayle it was with Jess, just...

00:36:13.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal how A lot of people on the left need, or Jeremy needed some media training.

00:36:14.07 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:36:16.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Or maybe that was his charm that he didn't have any.

00:36:16.89 alexei sayle Yeah. He didn't have it, but others probably do need it, really. And I said that great... I hope Mick Lynch, when he retires from his the head of the RMT, he should definitely, because he he seems to be the...

00:36:27.24 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You should start.

00:36:33.80 alexei sayle epis I mean, he's not that left. I mean, some of the... Because I know he supported the Labour Party of late, but... um um I thought he was the perfect left person to be on, you know, the media really. And they would try and catch him out with these gotcha questions and he would just blast through them really, you know.

00:37:00.04 alexei sayle So, yeah. So Mick, if you're listening, yeah, start that media training business when you retire. think it would be a boon to the left.

00:37:12.60 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal To the left, to the left. Hey, Alexei, tell us your, for people who don't, uh, aren't aware, or ah tell us your memories of Yasser Arafat or what do you know about him? I'll i'll give you the headline.

00:37:25.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He was the president of the Palestinian National Authority. He died in 2004.

00:37:30.40 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:37:31.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You know, I was just a teenager then. So my memories of exact details of of his life and story are vague, but I know he was a symbol of, um,

00:37:42.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Here's what know, he he almost made a two-state solution happen, didn't he?

00:37:45.99 alexei sayle Yeah. I mean, yeah.

00:37:47.31 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And he he spent years formulating an agreement that finally Israel agreed with. But then i think, is that when Israel's president got assassinated and it all fell apart?

00:38:01.24 alexei sayle uh robin i i'm not sure i think it was as i you know i mean i remember hillary clinton saying you know if the plo had agreed with the plan for put forward by my husband we'd be talking about 25 years of the palestinian state now i think that i think in in in in actuality i mean somebody more knowledgeable than me should could talk about this but i think in actuality israel was never going to yeah, that that the the Oslo Accords has just been a holding agreement whereby allowed Egypt, I think, to normalise relations with Israel. It allowed the go Gulf States normalise to a degree the relations and it just allowed Israel to carry on with its um annexation of Palestinian lands. I don't think it was ever really going to happen.

00:38:52.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But for a time there was a socialist kind of leadership in Israel and and it was the right wing that caused that abrupt ending to the talks and are who are now in power now.

00:38:52.95 alexei sayle But, I mean, it is.

00:38:57.07 alexei sayle Well, that's an interesting... Yeah, I mean, yeah.

00:39:06.27 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal no

00:39:06.52 alexei sayle um Yes, although i think the i mean I think the Israeli left were always compromised by the fact that Israel is ah you know he' a settler colonial.

00:39:14.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Occupation, yeah.

00:39:16.34 alexei sayle apartheid state i don and I don't see how you can be a socialist really and and support that state really the only thing that you could do as a socialist was really to support the I mean the dissolution of that state as an apartheid state and so you would you would you could only you you would have to advocate for um um for human rights for all people living on that land and then

00:39:39.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal you

00:39:43.09 alexei sayle by definition, it would cease to be a you know a state in which only Jews have rights, which is the case at the moment. ah So I don't know how you square that circle, really.

00:39:56.59 alexei sayle I forgot my word. But yes, I mean, it's an interesting question, really.

00:40:00.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yasa Arfa

00:40:02.55 alexei sayle And it was something we could get an expert on to talk about some point, because it was that clearly the resistance to... um is to israel the the palestinian resistance was in the early days entirely ah secular and by and large marxists know the people's liberation from you know the all those various groups where and uh arafat himself the plo were secular and then the resistance now is entirely ah religious based i mean they are

00:40:25.81 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal a Yeah.

00:40:42.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal At its foundation, yeah.

00:40:42.66 alexei sayle oh Yeah, they are. you know they' be

00:40:46.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But you could easily argue Israel funded that Islamification of...

00:40:46.64 alexei sayle and the

00:40:49.11 alexei sayle Well, israel was was yes Israel was instrumental in the founding of Hamas.

00:40:54.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm-hmm.

00:40:54.84 alexei sayle And while they are not, I don't think that they're not, um I mean, what's the difference? They're not they're not like i mean They try and make pretend that Hamas and ah Islamic Jihad and so on are like ISIS, and they're not because they only have one they're not interested in establishing a caliphate. They have only one enemy, and that enemy is Israel, as I understand it.

00:41:19.93 alexei sayle So they're not interested as you know like ISIS are and in in were in you know expanding, you know found in this brutal yeah world domination kind of thing.

00:41:26.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal World domination.

00:41:30.67 alexei sayle So, um but it's an interesting, I don't know, be interesting to find out. I mean, and it's not just that the resistance is now entirely political Islam, but also that the Palestine, what was the PLO, has devolved into this quizzling government that yeah carries out the ah The wishes, you know, just aids and, you know, cooperates with Israel in the suppression of recent, yeah, the Palestinian Authority, which isn't entirely corrupt and, you know, is very much, you know, just acts as Israel's, Israel's agent in the West Bank, really.

00:41:58.35 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Talking about the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Yeah, and they're corrupt as fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:09.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's so frustrating. As an Arab, it's so frustrating that we just can't have anything nice, you know.

00:42:12.57 alexei sayle Yeah, yeah.

00:42:16.78 alexei sayle Well, I mean, I think, I mean, they are terribly powerful. You know, I mean, I think we' we're talking with some, you know, with, you know, when people say, where is, where is, you know, the Palestinian Mandela?

00:42:27.72 alexei sayle Well, when ah whenever, is you know, whenever a Mandela, like a unifying figure ever arose, they would be, Israel would either kill them

00:42:36.72 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yep. Yep.

00:42:37.67 alexei sayle or jail them really and i mean the most obviously is um one of her but when the bargootis uh you the one that's been in prison for god knows how long now um uh

00:42:49.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Mm hmm.

00:42:51.56 alexei sayle ah

00:42:53.99 alexei sayle So it's it's it's very difficult for, you know an elite you know, I think a Palestinian leader to to appear, you know, being subverted in so many ways. Nevertheless, it seems, I mean, the the behavior of the Palestinian Authority is despicable.

00:43:11.20 alexei sayle And it's I don't know, yeah, we could maybe get somebody on to talk about how all that happened, really. And I suppose we could talk about how also...

00:43:18.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal there's a

00:43:22.54 alexei sayle know the rise of political islam really and what what what it is that gives that its sustaining power because mean certainly i mean the in many ways the government of iran for instance you know is is as corrupt you know many iranian friends and they talk about the you know fundamental corruption in iran so it's not there it's not that they are free from materialistic corruption because they're i think the know the revolutionary guard corps and so on in iran is corrupt as anybody but nevertheless there is something about political islam that has sustained it in a way that secular ideas and secular movements of

00:44:05.95 alexei sayle cause to be fallen by the wayside so it would be interesting to have an examination of of what it is in those secular movements which doom them and what it is about radical political Islam that sustains it really is the one thing that gives a kind of gallum resistance in the Middle East that's staying power

00:44:27.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, the easy answer is that that's what the enemy wants is they want the Arab resistance to look like a fanatical maniacs.

00:44:33.91 alexei sayle yes that's true

00:44:34.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And they want the only democracy in Palestine to be corrupt and hated or to be feared so that they have an argument and they can just keep saying terrorist and point their fingers while bombs drop on them.

00:44:43.97 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:44:48.00 alexei sayle Yeah. Not that, I mean, not that in any conventional sense the PA is. I mean, when's last time they had elections in the West Bank?

00:44:55.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Hmm.

00:44:56.58 alexei sayle Yes. A long time ago.

00:44:57.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal as if they'd be allowed any and what's happening now in the West Bank is awful.

00:45:01.25 alexei sayle Yep.

00:45:01.30 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And there was some, uh, there was a televised Israeli interview with, was it with Dr. Omar or there's another doctor who's been arrested and Hussain something.

00:45:19.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I'm my memory so bad with names.

00:45:20.29 alexei sayle I don't know. i think that supposedly they're releasing the one from the

00:45:21.80 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Um,

00:45:25.19 alexei sayle and hospital. They walk towards the tank. I know they've been starving him and beating him.

00:45:30.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal The one who they arrested is at the Indonesian hospital in Gaza.

00:45:34.28 alexei sayle No, this was the L. I see hospital.

00:45:38.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, there was the fella um who, the pediatricist who was working at the Indonesian hospital in Gaza when it was blown up and they ended up, you know, the hospital was basically a bunch of tents outside the site of the hospital and they accused him of harboring, giving safe, um,

00:45:43.95 alexei sayle right.

00:45:51.17 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:45:56.59 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:45:59.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Haven to Hamas and storing weapons for them and stuff in the hospital. And he's been arrested for ages.

00:46:03.74 alexei sayle mutual advice Yeah.

00:46:05.08 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And the people have been hashtagging like, where is Dr.

00:46:09.89 alexei sayle yeah

00:46:10.35 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal want to say Hussein or Hussam.

00:46:12.84 alexei sayle ah yes soen yeah

00:46:14.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And they finally had... they they finally showed him on Israeli TV being interviewed by a journalist and he was just, it was an interrogation. It wasn't an interview and he's in shackles surrounded by IDF soldiers or prison guards, heavily armored guns pointing at him.

00:46:29.49 alexei sayle All

00:46:30.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal This guy shackled and being quizzed and interrogated about why they were storing weapons. And he's like, I literally, podiatrist, I do surgery on little children.

00:46:41.53 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Like,

00:46:41.67 alexei sayle right. I have not seen this.

00:46:43.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And they they like break him. they At one point, they start shoving him and stuff on TV.

00:46:49.79 alexei sayle Back. Back.

00:46:50.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And he starts trembling. And it's it's just the most...

00:46:56.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal it's It's just really fucked, man.

00:46:56.08 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah. This is what, this is what you're Tracy Ann Oberman's supporting.

00:47:04.79 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And he's like, I don't even work at that hospital. I went to that hospital because my hospital got blown up. like

00:47:11.28 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:47:14.87 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yasser Arafat's real name, full name. I love Arabic names so much. Muhammad Abdul Rahman Abdul Raoof Arafat Al Qudwa Al Hussein.

00:47:27.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal The longest fucking name in the world. um He's iconic dude. I'd love to Maybe I'll do a bit of reading about him. Maybe I'll give you a little lecture next week.

00:47:37.10 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:47:38.46 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I know Sammy would know so much if we ever had him back.

00:47:42.53 alexei sayle I think he he also turned out to be a disappointment, really.

00:47:47.34 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Sammy.

00:47:48.23 alexei sayle No, not Sami, but Yasser Arafat.

00:47:52.09 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah

00:47:52.37 alexei sayle I mentioned that in Sandwich Bar.

00:47:52.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal He turned out to be a human being, not a god, you know.

00:47:55.48 alexei sayle Well, yeah, but yeah. Yeah. It's difficult, but you know.

00:48:01.73 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and is difficult.

00:48:02.35 alexei sayle me

00:48:05.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal or I'll do some reading. If anyone wants to help me in the Patreon, and send me messages, send me your little opinions and bios, and I'll collate info, and I'll talk to my family about him.

00:48:08.70 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:48:11.56 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:48:17.05 alexei sayle There's a very... There's a really interesting... not to plug the streamers really, there's a very interesting, very nice little Japanese, half-hour Japanese sort of comedy on Netflix, I think, called The Hotspot.

00:48:34.45 alexei sayle It's about this woman who works in a hotel in the foot in the kind of at the base of Mount Fuji.

00:48:40.09 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Is it narrative or or reality?

00:48:40.44 alexei sayle But it's a comedy. it's a Yeah, it's a drama, comedy drama.

00:48:42.79 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Okay.

00:48:45.33 alexei sayle but her co-worker is um and eight or an alien or is half alien. um But it's mostly about sort of domestic stuff, really. It's not really about... It's a really... It's a bit authoritarian in tone in many ways, but it's it's a really sweet... If anybody's watching it or wants to talk about it, it's a really interesting, very different...

00:49:09.49 alexei sayle um program uh they'd show it they they drop it week by week really so you can't you you can't binge on it but it's it's called the hot spot and it's it's um fascinating i think amazing really funny performances very japanese i think in a sense uh yeah yeah so i've been watching that we watched

00:49:19.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, that looks great.

00:49:27.28 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's great. I'm looking at it now. Yeah, it looks fantastic. um

00:49:35.09 alexei sayle The aftermath, which is, he's I mean, there's a whole episode of Imaginary Sandwich Bar where the guest is ah is a is a a form of special forces assassin hiding out in the suburbs, you know, because every every other Netflix or Amazon you know movie is about...

00:49:56.29 alexei sayle form a special you know blah blah but there's one called aftermath which is you know which is sub um diehard is it is in this case he's an ex-us army ranger stuck with his little sister on a bridge that's been captured by terrorists um for reasons i can't now remember um actually

00:50:16.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Who stars in that?

00:50:18.24 alexei sayle Nobody, actually. that You won't really recognize anybody. They're all people who are certainly new to me. But um it's it's a decent watch if you're looking for something.

00:50:29.61 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal The movie from 2019.

00:50:32.23 alexei sayle It's from 2019, really.

00:50:38.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, it's got Alexander Skarsgård and Keira Knightley in it.

00:50:41.31 alexei sayle No, that's not that one, then.

00:50:41.82 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's all right.

00:50:42.75 alexei sayle That's a different one.

00:50:43.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's not it.

00:50:44.29 alexei sayle Aftermath, that's not that.

00:50:46.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's called The Aftermath, bro.

00:50:48.45 alexei sayle No, I don't know what the hell that is. No, this is just called aftermath.

00:50:51.34 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So is this? Oh, Aftermath. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:58.24 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal On Boston's Tobin Memorial Bridge.

00:51:01.83 alexei sayle That's right. Yes, yes.

00:51:03.60 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Five stars.

00:51:06.64 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, no one famous in it. Okay, take it back. yeah um what is and you Is that or another recommend from you? It's a movie.

00:51:13.43 alexei sayle Relatively speaking, if you want a brainless kind of sub diehard.

00:51:14.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um B-movie.

00:51:20.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I re-watched in the last seven days. I've watched Die Hard 2 and Die Hard with a Vengeance. And... reminded myself how much I love those, that series of films.

00:51:31.65 alexei sayle Yeah, ah to I said when we were in l LA, we went to the Nakatomi Plaza, which is actually in Century City to pay homage.

00:51:32.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal The third one, especially the third one.

00:51:36.91 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, wow.

00:51:43.00 alexei sayle That film is the greatest. I mean, I remember coming out the first one and feeling like when you come out into the street and the world feels different, really. you know You're so pumped up by that first movie.

00:51:54.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal he

00:51:55.38 alexei sayle I think I was stop it and you're walking in front of cars and stuff. I felt so...

00:52:02.08 alexei sayle full of, like I was still in the film.

00:52:03.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I think throughout the 80s, all the action films in the 80s, it was leading up to that because that's 1988. And I think that's the film they were trying to make. Like when the action star, action hero, action set pieces, ah villain, it's all just pinnacle.

00:52:12.37 alexei sayle Right.

00:52:18.05 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:52:20.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's all just the best, isn't it?

00:52:22.05 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:52:22.58 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It can't be praised enough. And I know it's not an underrated film, but it can't be praised enough.

00:52:27.00 alexei sayle No.

00:52:27.22 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um And I want to recommend something though that not everyone

00:52:29.94 alexei sayle Die Hard 2 is again, i mean, there's also an episode of Sandwich Bar, which is about, it's partly about sequels, really. I don't really mention, but Die Hard 2 is one of those where the sequel is a match to the original, really.

00:52:42.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's really cool, really creative.

00:52:42.67 alexei sayle In some ways, our pain is even better. Yeah.

00:52:46.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal They could have done it in another tower, in another city, you know, ah but they didn't.

00:52:50.03 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:52:50.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It was like, let's do it completely different, but have so many throwback, callbacks to the first film.

00:52:56.42 alexei sayle Yeah, exactly.

00:52:57.93 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And the characters.

00:52:58.28 alexei sayle It's like a bad a bad follow-up sequel is like Speed 2, which is just like Speed, but it's on a boat.

00:53:03.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:53:06.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. this That's not the way to do it.

00:53:08.24 alexei sayle It's terrible. No.

00:53:10.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Need something new.

00:53:12.51 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:53:12.62 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah So that's in an airport and then the third and it's different director and and writer on the second one. But then the third one, they bring the writer and director of the first one back.

00:53:20.13 alexei sayle Yeah. yeah

00:53:22.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But it's again so different. It's sprawled across the whole of New York and it's just a race.

00:53:25.68 alexei sayle That's one with Samuel L. Jackson.

00:53:27.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah.

00:53:27.79 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:53:29.28 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's the only question but is that they've thrown in a black guy and his main trait is that he hates white people and like, okay.

00:53:35.33 alexei sayle Yeah. yeah

00:53:37.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, because it's so long ago, that's I'll let it slide.

00:53:39.80 alexei sayle yeah yeah

00:53:40.71 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal but he is just But his performance in that is so fantastic.

00:53:44.51 alexei sayle yeah

00:53:45.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and A brilliant film, um number three. And I remember the PlayStation 1 game, Die Hard Trilogy, where you would play through each one of those films.

00:53:58.25 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And it's brilliant. um Very gory. But I wanted to recommend another Japanese thing. There's a film on YouTube. 45 minute long film called Yusuf Days in Japan. Yusuf Days is a jazz drummer and he's got an amazing band, really fantastic musician.

00:54:18.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal um yousef Y-U-S-S-E-F. Yusuf Days in Japan is a film he made of a trip to Japan And there's, and his it's a blend between a live performance and a documentary of him going around Japan talking to really interesting people.

00:54:36.90 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But the live performance is at the base of Mount Fuji.

00:54:40.75 alexei sayle Oh, okay.

00:54:40.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And it's it's done outdoors and it's not done to an audience.

00:54:41.63 alexei sayle all All right.

00:54:43.96 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's just done to a camera crew.

00:54:44.29 alexei sayle Right. Okay.

00:54:46.40 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and with a couple of with a guest ah musician for a couple of the songs, this Japanese and musician who plays a traditional instrument. And the backdrop is Mount Fuji. And you can sometimes just hear the wind rustling through the trees.

00:55:00.22 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And the music is so good and shot so beautifully. can't recommend it enough.

00:55:04.98 alexei sayle That sounds good.

00:55:05.12 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's soul soothing stuff.

00:55:06.87 alexei sayle And to bring it all back, said one of the great, I think, a movie I loved at the time, I've seen since, is Lost in Translation with Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson set in Japan.

00:55:16.09 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:55:21.20 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's right. That's a great film.

00:55:23.86 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:55:24.38 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And a good reminder, listeners, readers, sorry, by next week, your homework is to watch Quick Change. That's your homework too, Alexei, and my homework too, Talal.

00:55:39.46 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal 1990s Quick Change with Bill Murray and Gina Davis.

00:55:41.33 alexei sayle Okay. Really?

00:55:42.70 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Gina Davis used to be an Olympian archer. Yeah, before she was a film star.

00:55:47.85 alexei sayle I didn't know that.

00:55:50.11 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal that

00:55:50.16 alexei sayle Wow.

00:55:50.60 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal yeah I love her to pieces, actually.

00:55:54.53 alexei sayle Then she made a pirate movie directed by her husband, and it which ended their career, really, called Throat Island.

00:55:54.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal have

00:56:01.50 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal not seen Cutthroat Island.

00:56:01.91 alexei sayle So I think it was called Cutthroat Island. It sort of ended. It was one of those movies that just ended their career.

00:56:11.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and Well, of course she's...

00:56:12.30 alexei sayle Rather like other right lack reckless Kelly for me.

00:56:14.85 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Why was it really, really terrible?

00:56:21.16 alexei sayle I've never worked since. I've literally never worked since.

00:56:24.69 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal No, you were in Casualty for three episodes, Alexei.

00:56:26.79 alexei sayle Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah.

00:56:29.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Of course, she's incredible Theopthelma and Louise, but ah The Long Kiss Goodnight, her her action film.

00:56:32.90 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:56:35.53 alexei sayle Yes. Well, isn't that one? That's the original. i mean, that's one, the original, when it was still... That's the hit man, hit woman with with amnesia, isn't it? It's that one.

00:56:47.70 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, she's...

00:56:47.80 alexei sayle Long kiss, goodnight. Yeah.

00:56:49.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal That's right.

00:56:49.57 alexei sayle but it was that was where Where that was an original idea before that had been used 20,000 fucking times.

00:56:55.34 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. And then Bourne Identity perfected it.

00:56:58.96 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah.

00:56:59.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yes, she gradually remembers her past. She's a government agent.

00:57:02.00 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:57:04.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I haven't seen this since... Basically since I was a kid. it's written by Shane Black. That explains why it's so good. And it's got Sam L. Jackson in it. But I remember this scene where she's like stuck. She's trapped somewhere.

00:57:16.86 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And she like pours lighter fluid. She makes a little funnel out of some card and pours lighter fluid into a crack and blows her way out of this.

00:57:20.78 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:57:26.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I can't remember exactly. Or she's like trying to break open a door or something.

00:57:27.60 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:57:29.02 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But um she's slowly remembering her skills, her secret agent skills.

00:57:31.86 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:57:32.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and she's so She's so charming.

00:57:32.82 alexei sayle yeah

00:57:35.80 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and It's weird that she's not really done anything recently. Maybe one day we could do the long kiss goodnight.

00:57:42.90 alexei sayle yeah

00:57:44.03 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal and is it in our film club where's her film I want to see the latest thing she's done oh she's like a producer now well

00:57:47.25 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:57:58.72 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal at least she's still working

00:57:58.76 alexei sayle Does she want?

00:58:04.84 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal oh no fuck off she's in blink twice which came out last year She still acts.

00:58:08.63 alexei sayle What's that?

00:58:09.42 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal She still acts a lot.

00:58:09.48 alexei sayle Does she?

00:58:10.26 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah, Blink Twice was Lenny Kravitz's daughter, Zoe Kravitz's directorial debut.

00:58:12.64 alexei sayle What?

00:58:15.66 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal She played Catwoman in the new Batman film.

00:58:16.15 alexei sayle I don't anything about that.

00:58:19.43 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Not her hugest fan. And she's in Glow, which I haven't watched yet, but you sing praises of Glow. Uh-huh.

00:58:25.35 alexei sayle I liked it first, got tired of it.

00:58:28.89 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Anyway, Geena Davis.

00:58:29.17 alexei sayle Interesting Kate Nash acting in that British singer-songwriter.

00:58:35.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right on that absolute cracking bombshell there.

00:58:44.54 alexei sayle Yeah.

00:58:45.41 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah Watch Quick Change before next week. Support our Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Alexa Tell Podcast. If you're watching on YouTube, leave a comment, press the like button. We get thousands of views, but only hundreds of likes, thumbs ups on YouTube.

00:58:58.25 alexei sayle Yeah, more of that.

00:58:58.48 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal So give us those.

00:58:59.21 alexei sayle We need more. Apparently we need more of that stuff.

00:59:00.27 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal If you're listening on your podcast apps, please leave a little review um and tell us what you think of the show. ah let me You know what? Let me see our... Before we, let me tell you our latest review. I'll read one out. Maybe yours will get read out on the show too.

00:59:17.74 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Okay, here's our, here's our reviews. Okay, this, someone wrote this on Tuesday. The Jones. Oh, time and again, this five-star review on Apple Podcasts.

00:59:31.32 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Time and again, Alexi Sale provides a true left-wing compass to guide us through those horrible times.

00:59:31.58 alexei sayle Eh...

00:59:38.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal A real people's treasure. P.S. Where do you get the music? My friend's four-year-old loved it when it came out came on in the car and was upset when it faded and he started talking.

00:59:51.75 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Oh, well, nice question there, buddy. That's Tarboosh Records makes our music. Tarboosh Records is my brother and his ah childhood best mate who lives out in Dubai.

01:00:03.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal They are a little record company called Tarbush Records. um You can find them on SoundCloud and YouTube and Instagram. And there is a link in the description of the podcast.

01:00:15.10 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Click on the Tarbush Records and it will take you to whatever I've linked it to.

01:00:22.12 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal There you go. Music by Tabush Records. You click it, takes you to their Instagram page. And through there, you can find all the links to their websites and stuff. Thanks for being a fan of the music. I will post the full version of this song on our YouTube channel. How's that, Alexi?

01:00:35.78 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal What do you think?

01:00:36.08 alexei sayle That's great.

01:00:37.07 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Our intro music. It is a nice song, isn't it?

01:00:40.37 alexei sayle Yeah, I was thinking that, listening to it before.

01:00:43.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal When we first met, not when we first met, but when we first met to discuss doing the podcast, we met at that cafe in central London, sunny day, we were sitting in the street table.

01:00:53.27 alexei sayle Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

01:00:55.55 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal And I said, oh, Lexi, what kind of music are you thinking for the theme music for the show? And you looked up at me, you nodded and he went, hip hop.

01:01:07.68 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I was like, yes, this guy is a bad man. want to make his podcast, bro.

01:01:17.03 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal All right. Been a pleasure.

01:01:18.50 alexei sayle And yeah yes, me too.

01:01:18.51 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal ah think we've run out of time.

01:01:20.18 alexei sayle Yes, we should.

01:01:20.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Any last words?

01:01:22.13 alexei sayle No, I really haven't. I suppose I should talk a bit more about Mr. Trump and Mr. Musk some point, but not now.

01:01:30.33 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal my God. He fired like 4,000 people from the... but the part of the government that regulates planes and then the next day a plane like somersaulted onto the runway and exploded

01:01:39.33 alexei sayle Yeah. and anyway Yeah, and he blames, well, that was in Canada, but yes, he blames somebody else.

01:01:45.15 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal it was an American plane Delta and then he fired most recently fired thousands

01:01:46.70 alexei sayle Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.

01:01:52.27 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal of staff from the national parks, um

01:01:56.06 alexei sayle yeah

01:01:58.17 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal which is, I think the most appealing thing about America is its natural beauty and it's why I wanna go there the most.

01:02:05.85 alexei sayle yeah

01:02:06.76 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal But to think that there's no one there to regulate like the bears, bear attacks and stuff makes me not wanna go so much anymore. But it's disgusting behavior, fucking

01:02:14.62 alexei sayle no Yeah.

01:02:19.06 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal iing And my dad always said, when America sneezes, and Britain gets a cold, which means, you know, give it a few years and we'll be going down the same road, kind of thing.

01:02:28.63 alexei sayle Yeah. Oh, yeah.

01:02:32.92 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal I wonder if that's true.

01:02:33.27 alexei sayle Well, yes, we'll certainly feel the effects of... Yeah. Maybe ill i don't I don't quite know what I think really at the moment, so...

01:02:44.56 alexei sayle But ah I'll formulate a viewpoint and then...

01:02:46.18 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Thank

01:02:48.43 alexei sayle communicate it

01:02:50.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Almost makes you vituperative, really.

01:02:53.44 alexei sayle ah

01:02:56.59 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It's my word of the day. I thank you for teaching me a new word. I looked up.

01:02:59.05 alexei sayle yeah well Kim I don't I don't think you're using it quite correctly there I see but uh that's fine yeah but it's more like a description of a thing I'm very bad on grammar but it's

01:02:59.45 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It means bitter and a...

01:03:06.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal It says it means bitter and aggressive.

01:03:11.65 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal but Bitter and abusive.

01:03:13.30 alexei sayle Yeah, but it's like, speak your spirit i don't think you can i suppose you can feel vituperative, but it's more likely that your speech, or specifically your speech, would be vituperative.

01:03:14.19 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal A vituperative outburst.

01:03:25.36 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You're right. You're right. It's more as the synonyms are like scolding and scathing.

01:03:27.55 alexei sayle yeah

01:03:30.14 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You can't feel scolding.

01:03:30.62 alexei sayle Yeah.

01:03:31.70 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal You have to be scolding.

01:03:32.29 alexei sayle Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah, well, it's your second language, isn't it?

01:03:35.83 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Well, I tried, all right.

01:03:40.67 Talaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalaltalal Fuck you. Say goodbye.

01:03:43.39 alexei sayle Bye-bye. Bye-bye.