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Mark Haney: Yes, this is the Mark Haney Show, on a

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Mark Haney: mission to ignite the entrepreneurial

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Mark Haney: We love, and we do that by building the

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Mark Haney: Backyard Advantage the most connected

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Mark Haney: community in the world for local

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Mark Haney: And today on the show I have a couple of

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Mark Haney: and you're going to enjoy this.

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Mark Haney: This is going to be a discussion about

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Mark Haney: family business, and Wayne Bishop is the

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Mark Haney: owner of Bishop's Pumpkin Farm and Lee

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Mark Haney: Bishop his son, I presume is the CEO of

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Mark Haney: Bishop's Pumpkin Farm, and if you don't

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Mark Haney: know about Bishop's, then you haven't ever

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Mark Haney: driven down Highway 65 before, because you

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Mark Haney: get out there and there is just this really

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Mark Haney: You can go around holiday seasons, but I

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Mark Haney: So we're going to get their story today,

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Mark Haney: and so I would just say welcome to the show,

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Mark Haney: guys.

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Wayne Bishop: Thank you.

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Wayne Bishop: Thank you, I do want to tell you Lee's only

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Wayne Bishop: been CEO for three weeks.

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Wayne Bishop: Uh-oh, three weeks.

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Mark Haney: He's still in his probationary period.

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Wayne Bishop: Okay, so how long is the?

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Mark Haney: probationary period last, I haven't decided

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Mark Haney: Okay, so let's find out about this.

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Mark Haney: Okay, let's get an overview of the company.

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Mark Haney: Then let's dive into those dynamics.

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Mark Haney: So maybe, wayne, maybe we'll have you start

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Mark Haney: So this is a multi-generation company.

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Mark Haney: You guys have been around 50 years.

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Mark Haney: Maybe tell us what you are today and maybe

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Mark Haney: the origination of the business.

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Wayne Bishop: Yeah, so what we are today is a farm that

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Wayne Bishop: hosts 300,000 plus visitors every fall,

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Wayne Bishop: which is one of the largest operations in

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Wayne Bishop: the country like us.

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Wayne Bishop: There's only a handful that host that many.

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Wayne Bishop: We have 850 temporary employees in the fall.

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Wayne Bishop: We have about I don't know, 17 or 18

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Wayne Bishop: I don't know, 17 or 18 full-time now people

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Wayne Bishop: Uh, we do some other farming too, but but

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Wayne Bishop: our primary business is is this, this

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Wayne Bishop: pumpkin farm, and it's it's more than just

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Wayne Bishop: You know the the actual sale of pumpkins

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Wayne Bishop: now is about five percent of what we of our

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Wayne Bishop: Uh, so it's all the things that go with

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Mark Haney: You know, it's a family day at our, at our

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Mark Haney: place yeah, I've taken my kids, as I was

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Mark Haney: telling you, my kids are 36 and 38.

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Mark Haney: Now I was, I think, the last.

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Mark Haney: It's been a few years since I've been out

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Mark Haney: It's about time I take my.

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Mark Haney: But my, my grandkids that are a little

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Mark Haney: So there's what is there?

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Mark Haney: A hundred acres or so.

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Wayne Bishop: It's pretty it's really big.

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Wayne Bishop: We actually own 235 now that's, that's a

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Wayne Bishop: big a big, big change for us in the.

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Wayne Bishop: In the last five years or so, we we started

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Wayne Bishop: on 45 acres okay, is, is all that we owned,

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Mark Haney: And then for a long time, we, we leased

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Wayne Bishop: yeah, no, it's, it's, it's all seasonal.

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Wayne Bishop: We we have stretched that season out now to

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Wayne Bishop: nine nine weeks so shortly after labor day

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Wayne Bishop: and and we may, uh, we may continue to

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Wayne Bishop: expand that season a little bit, and the

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Wayne Bishop: only other thing we do is is a um, we do a

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Wayne Bishop: We get about 15,000 people in the spring

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Wayne Bishop: for that, Um, but but it's a tiny, tiny

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Mark Haney: Okay, well, let's get over.

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Mark Haney: Let's bring Lee into the conversation.

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Mark Haney: Lee is the new CEO, and uh, how well.

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Mark Haney: First of all, how's he working out so far?

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Wayne Bishop: So far fantastic.

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Mark Haney: Looks like you're going to pass the

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Mark Haney: probationary period, but you know, see how

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Mark Haney: you do today on the Mark Haney Show.

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Mark Haney: So give us a little bit of your background

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Mark Haney: and what led to you becoming the CEO.

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Lee Bishop: That's a great question.

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Lee Bishop: I think we just hired a consultant who said

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Lee Bishop: you know, lee's probably a better fit than

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Lee Bishop: his brother.

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Wayne Bishop: And so my brother didn't take that so great.

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Wayne Bishop: She also said we should go outside first.

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Wayne Bishop: Yeah, yeah she actually.

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Lee Bishop: I was the second choice, remember I was the

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Lee Bishop: third choice on CEO, but my background is I

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Lee Bishop: graduated from Chico State with a finance

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Lee Bishop: degree in 2011.

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Lee Bishop: I then worked for most of my career at a

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Lee Bishop: company called Reynolds and Reynolds and

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Lee Bishop: they did software for car dealerships.

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Lee Bishop: I spent all of my time working with service

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Lee Bishop: managers and sales managers and controllers

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Lee Bishop: questions on the software really and

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Lee Bishop: osmosisly growing through, just being

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Lee Bishop: around those people every day.

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Lee Bishop: And then in 2020, I moved back to the farm

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Lee Bishop: and I told my dad when I moved back I don't

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Lee Bishop: want to manage people, I'm the controller

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Lee Bishop: of the business and I'm going to start a

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Lee Bishop: hard cider brand.

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Mark Haney: And that's what I'm going to do.

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Mark Haney: Okay.

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Lee Bishop: Now here I am the CEO.

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Mark Haney: Well, do you have to manage people in this

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Mark Haney: Assume so, I love it.

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Mark Haney: Okay.

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Mark Haney: So let's go back to the beginning here.

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Mark Haney: It's 50 years old.

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Mark Haney: Was it started by your family?

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Mark Haney: Yeah, my parents.

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Mark Haney: Okay, so your family.

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Mark Haney: Can you tell me about how it started and

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Mark Haney: yeah so.

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Wayne Bishop: So my mother had been a teacher and um, and

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Wayne Bishop: she recognized that dad was a farmer and

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Wayne Bishop: she recognized that kids just didn't didn't

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Wayne Bishop: know, didn't know what what farms were all

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Wayne Bishop: And so she really just wanted to get kids

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Wayne Bishop: And um thought, between her and dad they

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Wayne Bishop: He had a small field in front of the house

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Wayne Bishop: that he wasn't doing anything with and she

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Wayne Bishop: said, well, I'm going to put pumpkins there

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Wayne Bishop: So that's what it started as, and right

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Wayne Bishop: You know the word got out that you could

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Wayne Bishop: come out and pick a pumpkin off the farm,

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Wayne Bishop: but that's all it was.

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Wayne Bishop: In year one other and although maybe she,

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Wayne Bishop: Now you can get a cottage food license and

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Wayne Bishop: do that now, which is great.

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Wayne Bishop: But at that time you know she did it for a

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Wayne Bishop: few years and the county came out and said

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Wayne Bishop: was a while before we could get a bakery

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Wayne Bishop: built and reestablish that part of the

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Mark Haney: So what was it like?

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Mark Haney: When did you grow up working in the

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Wayne Bishop: Yeah, in fact we were getting ready to do

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Wayne Bishop: my other son, austin, who, by the way, is

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Wayne Bishop: the COO my other son.

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Wayne Bishop: They really worked that out between them.

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Wayne Bishop: We had this consultant come in and give us

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Wayne Bishop: advice on how to do this succession and she

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Wayne Bishop: felt Lee was more suited to be the CEO.

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Wayne Bishop: And Austin was a little taken aback, which

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Wayne Bishop: we all were.

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Wayne Bishop: She was very blunt and he went home for the

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Wayne Bishop: he said you know, I think she's right, I

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Wayne Bishop: think that you are a better fit for the CEO

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Wayne Bishop: and I'm a better fit for COO Interesting.

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Wayne Bishop: And so it's fantastic the way they've

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Wayne Bishop: worked that through.

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Wayne Bishop: That was almost a year ago.

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Wayne Bishop: We had that meeting, and so we were working

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Wayne Bishop: a year towards making it happen, but anyway,

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Wayne Bishop: I'm way off track.

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Wayne Bishop: What was the question?

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Mark Haney: So how did you take over?

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Mark Haney: So mom and dad started the business in what

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Mark Haney: the 70s?

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Wayne Bishop: Yeah, so 1973 was the first year, and

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Wayne Bishop: that's why this came up.

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Wayne Bishop: My other son, was talking to me this

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Wayne Bishop: morning that we were going to make a video

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Wayne Bishop: on just the history of our hayride to the

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Wayne Bishop: So we had done that from the beginning and

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Wayne Bishop: my brother and I were the drivers when we

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Wayne Bishop: were six and seven years old, you know.

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Mark Haney: Drove the hayride.

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Mark Haney: Now these motorized uh, oh, yeah, it's a

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Wayne Bishop: Yeah, yeah and uh anyway, so there's

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Mark Haney: And so that was you and your brother, and

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Wayne Bishop: Well, so interestingly enough, we both, you

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Wayne Bishop: And so that actually is 30 years ago next

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Mark Haney: And the business has changed a lot since

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Wayne Bishop: We were grossing $300,000 at that time.

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Mark Haney: Okay, Annual revenue $300,000.

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Mark Haney: And now you have 800 seasonal employees on

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Wayne Bishop: Yes, so my dad retired in 2005.

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Wayne Bishop: Wow, congratulations on that growth.

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Mark Haney: A lot of people are probably interested in

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Mark Haney: So I have kids that are 36 and 38, and if

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Mark Haney: They're too stubborn.

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Mark Haney: I couldn't.

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Mark Haney: My brother and I we had a business together.

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Mark Haney: I was actually in part of a family business

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Mark Haney: We had 12 stores and ultimately my younger

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Mark Haney: Um, he let me have the title of CEO, but he

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Mark Haney: So, yeah, uh, so I'm kind of curious, lee,

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Lee Bishop: No, I don't manage him.

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Lee Bishop: He's unmanageable.

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Mark Haney: Yeah, yeah, I was like my brother didn't

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Lee Bishop: You need something for the, you know Well

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Lee Bishop: interesting, he's my older brother by three

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Lee Bishop: um, so for him to just say, you know, yeah,

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Lee Bishop: You know he's been there for so long.

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Lee Bishop: But naturally when he came back to the

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Lee Bishop: And when I came back to the business it was

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Lee Bishop: And so I think we both kind of got just

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Lee Bishop: But I think you know, and I've told him

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Lee Bishop: We are gonna be co-owners in this business.

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Lee Bishop: We already are co-owners in the business.

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Lee Bishop: I'm not gonna make a huge decision without

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Lee Bishop: I can't just go build a new attraction with

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Lee Bishop: him not being able to see, it Are there

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Lee Bishop: other brothers and sisters, or just you two?

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Lee Bishop: We have a younger sister and she worked

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Lee Bishop: with the business up until 2020, for about

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Lee Bishop: five years or so, and she left in 2020.

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Mark Haney: Okay, but you all live locally.

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Lee Bishop: She moved away.

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Lee Bishop: Actually, when she quit, she moved up to

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Mark Haney: Okay, she wanted to get away from it all.

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Mark Haney: Huh, yeah, okay, but do you and your

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Mark Haney: Do you live near the property or on the

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Lee Bishop: My brother lives in the town in Wheatland

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Lee Bishop: But he my dad lives on the farm.

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Lee Bishop: Oh, you live on the farm too.

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Mark Haney: Okay, so what we did with our family and we

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Mark Haney: You guys could build more houses out there.

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Mark Haney: We've ended up building a family compound

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Mark Haney: Um yeah, yeah, yeah Watch the news.

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Mark Haney: What's the family dynamic in terms of you

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Mark Haney: Wheatland is where the?

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Mark Haney: Uh the business is and uh, it's this small

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Mark Haney: So how is the?

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Mark Haney: How does that?

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Lee Bishop: work.

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Lee Bishop: Well, I mean, we all go to work together

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Lee Bishop: So we actually eat lunch together basically

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Lee Bishop: Interesting, so right in the middle of our

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Lee Bishop: But yeah, I mean we're a pretty close

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Lee Bishop: So even all the holidays, even though we

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Lee Bishop: And, uh, my brother has three girls and so

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Lee Bishop: So we're, we're pretty well, always

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Mark Haney: One of the things that, um, I've always

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Mark Haney: And I'm wondering, like, growing up, were

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Mark Haney: Were you, was it bred into you, uh, as as a

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Mark Haney: Or were you talking basketball or football

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Lee Bishop: it was definitely both of those things okay

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Lee Bishop: we had to have our you know hour-long talk

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Lee Bishop: about barry bonds that time.

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Mark Haney: Okay, now are we a Barry Bonds fan.

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Lee Bishop: Oh yeah, we're San Francisco Giants people.

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Lee Bishop: Oh nice.

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Lee Bishop: I don't know exactly what happened at Volco.

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Mark Haney: Well, yeah, you can see my Buster Posey

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Lee Bishop: But definitely at home it was.

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Lee Bishop: You know, we grew up in the business.

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Lee Bishop: We lived in Wheatland when we grew up and

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Lee Bishop: I started going to work in the bakery with

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Lee Bishop: I wasn't allowed to drive hay rides when I

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Mark Haney: Yeah, that is a young age.

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Lee Bishop: We changed that Probably by the time I was

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Lee Bishop: When I was nine years old, 10 years old my

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Lee Bishop: But yeah, even at home, around the dinner

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Mark Haney: What were your grandparents like, or what

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Lee Bishop: My grandpa passed away a few years ago.

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Lee Bishop: My dad will probably tell you a very

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Lee Bishop: different story of my grandpa than I will,

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00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:04,679
Lee Bishop: and my brother will too.

479
00:17:04,699 --> 00:17:05,561
Lee Bishop: My brother will tell you a lot.

480
00:17:05,662 --> 00:17:07,447
Lee Bishop: Like my dad, I wasn't around when my

481
00:17:07,555 --> 00:17:09,720
Lee Bishop: grandpa was fading out of the business.

482
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,742
Lee Bishop: I was away.

483
00:17:12,325 --> 00:17:13,207
Lee Bishop: I loved my grandpa.

484
00:17:13,247 --> 00:17:14,355
Lee Bishop: He was a hard worker man.

485
00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:15,036
Lee Bishop: He's got red dirt in his knuckles.

486
00:17:15,057 --> 00:17:15,377
Lee Bishop: That's who he is.

487
00:17:15,397 --> 00:17:16,098
Lee Bishop: He worked a hard worker man he is.

488
00:17:16,118 --> 00:17:17,080
Lee Bishop: Uh, he's got red dirt in his knuckles.

489
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:18,062
Wayne Bishop: you know that's who he is.

490
00:17:18,122 --> 00:17:19,866
Lee Bishop: He's just, he worked, and worked and worked.

491
00:17:20,627 --> 00:17:22,296
Lee Bishop: And my grandma's similar, you know, but she,

492
00:17:22,516 --> 00:17:23,459
Lee Bishop: she obviously had different.

493
00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:26,146
Lee Bishop: You know, passions, the bakery, but they

494
00:17:26,206 --> 00:17:26,547
Lee Bishop: loved work.

495
00:17:26,587 --> 00:17:27,957
Lee Bishop: That's who they were, that's the generation

496
00:17:27,977 --> 00:17:28,578
Lee Bishop: they grew up with.

497
00:17:28,638 --> 00:17:31,262
Mark Haney: Yeah, um, how so you?

498
00:17:31,362 --> 00:17:33,084
Mark Haney: There's a contrasting opinion there.

499
00:17:33,385 --> 00:17:35,809
Wayne Bishop: Give us the uh, give us your thoughts on

500
00:17:35,849 --> 00:17:39,835
Wayne Bishop: that way you know, my dad and I, you know,

501
00:17:39,855 --> 00:17:41,860
Wayne Bishop: we were both passionate about the business

502
00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:44,448
Wayne Bishop: and there was a period of time there when I

503
00:17:44,508 --> 00:17:46,637
Wayne Bishop: first came back, where it was really just

504
00:17:46,677 --> 00:17:49,644
Wayne Bishop: the two of us doing all the work and and my

505
00:17:49,684 --> 00:17:51,716
Wayne Bishop: mom and you know, and then we gradually

506
00:17:51,756 --> 00:17:53,720
Wayne Bishop: were able to hire a little bit of help.

507
00:17:53,801 --> 00:17:58,310
Wayne Bishop: But um and my dad had some mental health

508
00:17:58,391 --> 00:18:00,776
Wayne Bishop: issues that he dealt with his whole life

509
00:18:00,856 --> 00:18:03,020
Wayne Bishop: and I think he he kind of conquered those

510
00:18:03,601 --> 00:18:07,889
Wayne Bishop: at the end, but but he uh, boy, we clashed

511
00:18:07,949 --> 00:18:09,819
Wayne Bishop: at times, okay, you know, and we had great

512
00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:10,481
Wayne Bishop: times together.

513
00:18:10,742 --> 00:18:14,313
Wayne Bishop: You know, we uh, my favorite year of my

514
00:18:14,373 --> 00:18:17,205
Wayne Bishop: life, maybe, in 1999, we spent the winter

515
00:18:17,667 --> 00:18:19,796
Wayne Bishop: in the shop building a new locomotive for

516
00:18:19,836 --> 00:18:21,984
Wayne Bishop: our train and we and you know who gets to

517
00:18:22,024 --> 00:18:24,353
Wayne Bishop: do that with their dad right, we built a

518
00:18:24,393 --> 00:18:26,559
Wayne Bishop: train together and you know, and that train

519
00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:28,584
Wayne Bishop: has hauled hundreds of thousands of people

520
00:18:28,664 --> 00:18:30,496
Wayne Bishop: and and made a lot of families happy.

521
00:18:30,577 --> 00:18:34,545
Wayne Bishop: So, um, that was it was, it was fantastic,

522
00:18:34,605 --> 00:18:36,296
Wayne Bishop: you know, we both loved to be in the shop.

523
00:18:36,356 --> 00:18:38,222
Wayne Bishop: I majored in engineering and ran a machine

524
00:18:38,262 --> 00:18:40,938
Wayne Bishop: shop before I came back to the farm and and,

525
00:18:41,099 --> 00:18:42,563
Wayne Bishop: um, we had a great time.

526
00:18:42,603 --> 00:18:43,626
Wayne Bishop: But then there were other times.

527
00:18:43,666 --> 00:18:45,900
Wayne Bishop: Boy, boy, we, we butted heads, you know,

528
00:18:46,121 --> 00:18:49,499
Wayne Bishop: and and uh so, so, we had our ups and downs,

529
00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,136
Wayne Bishop: you know, but we stuck it out and and in

530
00:18:52,176 --> 00:18:55,966
Wayne Bishop: the end, you know, uh, I think we respected

531
00:18:56,006 --> 00:18:56,387
Wayne Bishop: each other.

532
00:18:59,535 --> 00:18:59,816
Wayne Bishop: We always know.

533
00:18:59,836 --> 00:19:00,800
Wayne Bishop: Uh, I think we respected each other.

534
00:19:00,820 --> 00:19:01,161
Wayne Bishop: We, we always did.

535
00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:01,823
Wayne Bishop: We always respected each other.

536
00:19:01,843 --> 00:19:03,369
Wayne Bishop: I think, um, there were just times where it

537
00:19:03,389 --> 00:19:04,071
Wayne Bishop: was hard to work together.

538
00:19:04,091 --> 00:19:04,272
Mark Haney: Yeah, yeah.

539
00:19:04,292 --> 00:19:05,616
Mark Haney: Well, you guys are members of the family

540
00:19:05,716 --> 00:19:07,279
Mark Haney: business association.

541
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,322
Mark Haney: I'm a member too.

542
00:19:08,362 --> 00:19:11,608
Mark Haney: I'm not as involved maybe, as you guys have

543
00:19:11,708 --> 00:19:14,900
Mark Haney: been a little less active, but uh, this is

544
00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:19,827
Mark Haney: where family businesses can get to know

545
00:19:19,887 --> 00:19:22,737
Mark Haney: other family businesses, get to learn ideas

546
00:19:22,937 --> 00:19:25,663
Mark Haney: on what it's like to have a family business

547
00:19:25,724 --> 00:19:27,868
Mark Haney: that is handed down through the generations.

548
00:19:28,215 --> 00:19:28,897
Mark Haney: I'm kind of curious.

549
00:19:28,917 --> 00:19:30,441
Mark Haney: You said you brought in the consultant, and

550
00:19:31,122 --> 00:19:32,706
Mark Haney: that's do you?

551
00:19:33,127 --> 00:19:34,717
Mark Haney: What kind of information have you got from

552
00:19:34,737 --> 00:19:37,022
Mark Haney: the family business organization?

553
00:19:37,563 --> 00:19:39,747
Mark Haney: I'm assuming that idea came from someone

554
00:19:39,807 --> 00:19:40,107
Mark Haney: there.

555
00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:40,709
Mark Haney: Is that right?

556
00:19:40,889 --> 00:19:42,679
Wayne Bishop: Well, yeah, actually, we got the referral

557
00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:44,986
Wayne Bishop: for her from that organization.

558
00:19:52,824 --> 00:19:54,646
Wayne Bishop: But you know, I think the biggest thing is,

559
00:19:54,767 --> 00:19:57,230
Wayne Bishop: it's so when you, when you learn that every

560
00:19:57,290 --> 00:19:59,739
Wayne Bishop: family business, that I've ever heard of or

561
00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:01,526
Wayne Bishop: that we've ever heard about, goes through

562
00:20:01,627 --> 00:20:04,096
Wayne Bishop: similar struggles as what we've gone

563
00:20:04,116 --> 00:20:07,023
Wayne Bishop: through and, um, of course, some of them

564
00:20:07,284 --> 00:20:07,424
Wayne Bishop: it's.

565
00:20:07,745 --> 00:20:08,347
Wayne Bishop: It's the end of them.

566
00:20:08,587 --> 00:20:09,918
Wayne Bishop: You know some of them can't work through it,

567
00:20:09,998 --> 00:20:12,905
Wayne Bishop: but but you, we get to go there and hear

568
00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:15,017
Wayne Bishop: about the ones that have encountered their

569
00:20:15,057 --> 00:20:16,960
Wayne Bishop: challenges and and gotten through, worked

570
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,864
Wayne Bishop: their way through them, and you know how

571
00:20:18,904 --> 00:20:19,365
Wayne Bishop: they did it.

572
00:20:19,765 --> 00:20:22,049
Wayne Bishop: And you know, bringing this consultant in

573
00:20:22,089 --> 00:20:23,759
Wayne Bishop: was all about communication really, which

574
00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,806
Wayne Bishop: is, you know, if you could give one piece

575
00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:30,942
Wayne Bishop: of advice to families and business together.

576
00:20:30,962 --> 00:20:33,727
Wayne Bishop: You got to keep talking and we don't always

577
00:20:34,028 --> 00:20:35,357
Wayne Bishop: do that when we should.

578
00:20:36,763 --> 00:20:39,353
Wayne Bishop: Lee talked about our, our lunches together

579
00:20:39,574 --> 00:20:41,800
Wayne Bishop: and that was something I heard years ago.

580
00:20:42,361 --> 00:20:45,329
Wayne Bishop: The family that owned the jelly belly uh

581
00:20:45,409 --> 00:20:48,537
Wayne Bishop: business and and um that that there was

582
00:20:48,597 --> 00:20:49,479
Wayne Bishop: something they did.

583
00:20:49,779 --> 00:20:51,843
Wayne Bishop: I think in their case they commuted

584
00:20:51,904 --> 00:20:55,538
Wayne Bishop: together two generations for for decades

585
00:20:55,658 --> 00:20:56,901
Wayne Bishop: they lived near each other.

586
00:20:56,982 --> 00:20:58,666
Wayne Bishop: They were 10 miles or whatever from the

587
00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:01,825
Wayne Bishop: plant and just that, 10 minutes or 15

588
00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,453
Wayne Bishop: minutes in the car twice a day, where

589
00:21:04,493 --> 00:21:06,458
Wayne Bishop: there's no pressure to talk about business.

590
00:21:06,558 --> 00:21:08,403
Wayne Bishop: If there's something that comes up, it's

591
00:21:08,443 --> 00:21:10,035
Wayne Bishop: not like okay, we've scheduled a meeting.

592
00:21:10,056 --> 00:21:11,138
Wayne Bishop: You got to talk about business.

593
00:21:11,739 --> 00:21:14,245
Wayne Bishop: Well, when we have lunch together, we talk

594
00:21:14,285 --> 00:21:16,137
Wayne Bishop: about my grandkids.

595
00:21:16,238 --> 00:21:18,565
Wayne Bishop: We talk about sports, sports politics,

596
00:21:19,067 --> 00:21:19,488
Wayne Bishop: whatever.

597
00:21:20,351 --> 00:21:22,216
Wayne Bishop: And if, if there's something pressing in

598
00:21:22,236 --> 00:21:23,980
Wayne Bishop: the business, it will come up and we'll

599
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,621
Wayne Bishop: talk about it.

600
00:21:25,824 --> 00:21:29,016
Wayne Bishop: But we just, you know, I think we maintain

601
00:21:29,036 --> 00:21:31,561
Wayne Bishop: the love of the family that way and the

602
00:21:31,621 --> 00:21:33,405
Wayne Bishop: closeness and and it.

603
00:21:33,886 --> 00:21:36,497
Wayne Bishop: If there was one thing that we've that that

604
00:21:36,677 --> 00:21:38,259
Wayne Bishop: I started that we do right it.

605
00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:40,002
Wayne Bishop: It's like hey, you guys, when they came

606
00:21:40,022 --> 00:21:42,366
Wayne Bishop: back to work I said I want you at my house

607
00:21:42,426 --> 00:21:44,509
Wayne Bishop: for lunch as many days of the week as

608
00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:45,030
Wayne Bishop: possible.

609
00:21:45,215 --> 00:21:46,919
Wayne Bishop: You know sometimes it doesn't work out, but

610
00:21:48,282 --> 00:21:49,985
Wayne Bishop: as much as possible we have lunch at my

611
00:21:50,046 --> 00:21:50,266
Wayne Bishop: house.

612
00:21:50,827 --> 00:21:53,179
Mark Haney: That's great, my brother and I we had our

613
00:21:53,219 --> 00:21:56,427
Mark Haney: own businesses, since, like we had paper

614
00:21:56,447 --> 00:21:57,008
Mark Haney: route together.

615
00:21:57,296 --> 00:21:58,742
Mark Haney: You probably remember the Sacramento Union.

616
00:21:58,855 --> 00:22:00,482
Mark Haney: I delivered the Sacramento Union as a kid,

617
00:22:00,955 --> 00:22:02,560
Mark Haney: so I recruited my little brother to help me

618
00:22:02,641 --> 00:22:03,885
Mark Haney: and it kind of became our thing.

619
00:22:03,975 --> 00:22:06,424
Mark Haney: But in our video stores and security stuff.

620
00:22:07,336 --> 00:22:09,923
Mark Haney: But we went out to lunch almost every day

621
00:22:10,023 --> 00:22:12,977
Mark Haney: for a few decades One year, and we'd always

622
00:22:13,037 --> 00:22:14,300
Mark Haney: split like who's going to pay?

623
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,923
Mark Haney: Or sometimes the business paid.

624
00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:19,130
Mark Haney: But one year for my birthday I think it was

625
00:22:19,150 --> 00:22:20,232
Mark Haney: for my 40th birthday he said I's going to

626
00:22:20,252 --> 00:22:21,174
Mark Haney: pay, or sometimes the business paid, um,

627
00:22:21,194 --> 00:22:22,847
Mark Haney: but one year for my birthday, I think it

628
00:22:22,813 --> 00:22:23,478
Mark Haney: was for my 40th birthday.

629
00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:24,217
Lee Bishop: He said I'm going to buy lunch for the next

630
00:22:24,183 --> 00:22:24,263
Lee Bishop: year.

631
00:22:24,228 --> 00:22:25,257
Lee Bishop: That was my birthday, cause we go to lunch

632
00:22:25,222 --> 00:22:25,750
Lee Bishop: every day.

633
00:22:25,715 --> 00:22:26,039
Lee Bishop: I said that was my.

634
00:22:26,005 --> 00:22:28,073
Mark Haney: you give me a financial but that was also

635
00:22:28,153 --> 00:22:30,537
Mark Haney: saying I want to have lunch with you too.

636
00:22:30,597 --> 00:22:34,564
Mark Haney: So I remember that being, uh, very touching

637
00:22:34,704 --> 00:22:35,064
Mark Haney: gift.

638
00:22:35,144 --> 00:22:37,608
Mark Haney: That you know, not only was he going to pay

639
00:22:37,648 --> 00:22:40,660
Mark Haney: for lunch for a year, but that you know,

640
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,823
Mark Haney: hey, he liked that.

641
00:22:41,843 --> 00:22:43,780
Mark Haney: We did that together and it helped the

642
00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:45,239
Mark Haney: business and it definitely helped our

643
00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:46,724
Mark Haney: relationship to be talking all the time.

644
00:22:46,775 --> 00:22:48,242
Mark Haney: So I agree with you on that communication.

645
00:22:48,977 --> 00:22:50,884
Wayne Bishop: And I'll go one step further on that.

646
00:22:51,155 --> 00:22:52,802
Wayne Bishop: I just was telling Lee the other day, I

647
00:22:52,842 --> 00:22:58,017
Wayne Bishop: think in 2020, covid happened and my

648
00:22:58,077 --> 00:22:59,904
Wayne Bishop: daughter had been with us for several years,

649
00:23:00,195 --> 00:23:00,997
Wayne Bishop: loved the business.

650
00:23:01,979 --> 00:23:04,023
Wayne Bishop: Uh, she was pregnant with her second child

651
00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:04,664
Wayne Bishop: at the time.

652
00:23:05,626 --> 00:23:07,816
Wayne Bishop: Uh, and we said, when, when you know, you

653
00:23:07,857 --> 00:23:10,062
Wayne Bishop: remember the, the terror we all felt at the

654
00:23:10,102 --> 00:23:11,005
Wayne Bishop: beginning of kovid?

655
00:23:11,025 --> 00:23:13,519
Wayne Bishop: We, there was so much unknown and we said,

656
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,444
Wayne Bishop: hey, uh, you know, you don't need to be

657
00:23:15,484 --> 00:23:16,526
Wayne Bishop: coming into work right now.

658
00:23:16,567 --> 00:23:17,704
Wayne Bishop: Why don't you stay home with your, with

659
00:23:17,656 --> 00:23:18,120
Wayne Bishop: your older child?

660
00:23:18,072 --> 00:23:18,625
Wayne Bishop: Not, let's not take her to daycare.

661
00:23:18,576 --> 00:23:18,931
Wayne Bishop: Hey, you don't need to be coming into work

662
00:23:18,883 --> 00:23:18,995
Wayne Bishop: right now.

663
00:23:18,947 --> 00:23:19,351
Wayne Bishop: Why don't you stay home with your older

664
00:23:19,303 --> 00:23:19,403
Wayne Bishop: child?

665
00:23:20,356 --> 00:23:22,203
Wayne Bishop: Let's not take her to daycare right now.

666
00:23:23,619 --> 00:23:26,195
Wayne Bishop: We don't have to have that exposure and

667
00:23:26,396 --> 00:23:26,637
Wayne Bishop: anyway.

668
00:23:26,677 --> 00:23:28,797
Wayne Bishop: So she ended up home for a while, then had

669
00:23:28,997 --> 00:23:31,125
Wayne Bishop: her other child home for a few more months

670
00:23:31,416 --> 00:23:32,541
Wayne Bishop: and we're not having lunch together.

671
00:23:34,899 --> 00:23:36,945
Wayne Bishop: And at the end of that, she's like hey, you

672
00:23:36,965 --> 00:23:39,764
Wayne Bishop: know what I want to be a mom, which is fine.

673
00:23:39,824 --> 00:23:41,820
Wayne Bishop: I have zero criticism about that.

674
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,664
Wayne Bishop: My wife didn't work while the, while the

675
00:23:43,705 --> 00:23:45,236
Wayne Bishop: kids were growing up, and she, you know,

676
00:23:45,436 --> 00:23:47,400
Wayne Bishop: mom, being a mom, was the priority and

677
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,527
Wayne Bishop: that's wonderful, um, but it, it, she, she,

678
00:23:52,309 --> 00:23:56,424
Wayne Bishop: she lost interest in the business and we

679
00:23:56,464 --> 00:23:58,549
Wayne Bishop: lost a connection that we had during that

680
00:23:58,610 --> 00:24:02,559
Wayne Bishop: time, you know, yeah, you seem sad about

681
00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:02,799
Wayne Bishop: that.

682
00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:05,565
Wayne Bishop: Oh, I'm still sad, yeah, and and uh, you

683
00:24:05,605 --> 00:24:09,681
Wayne Bishop: know she may listen to this, so but, uh,

684
00:24:09,741 --> 00:24:11,104
Wayne Bishop: but what would you say to her?

685
00:24:11,144 --> 00:24:12,487
Mark Haney: right now she's listening to this.

686
00:24:12,527 --> 00:24:13,088
Mark Haney: What would you tell her?

687
00:24:13,476 --> 00:24:15,340
Wayne Bishop: uh, we miss her, you know, and, and you

688
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,182
Wayne Bishop: know what we still.

689
00:24:16,483 --> 00:24:17,305
Wayne Bishop: We miss her in the business.

690
00:24:17,365 --> 00:24:18,087
Wayne Bishop: We still see her.

691
00:24:18,636 --> 00:24:20,100
Wayne Bishop: We're not estranged by any means.

692
00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:22,285
Wayne Bishop: We she was just here for christmas and and

693
00:24:22,425 --> 00:24:24,878
Wayne Bishop: um, you know, we get along great, but we

694
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:25,700
Wayne Bishop: miss her in the business.

695
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,166
Wayne Bishop: You know, she, growing up, of the three of

696
00:24:28,206 --> 00:24:29,997
Wayne Bishop: my kids, she was the one who loved the

697
00:24:30,037 --> 00:24:33,685
Wayne Bishop: business the most and and um and always

698
00:24:33,725 --> 00:24:35,937
Wayne Bishop: talked about coming back at some point and

699
00:24:36,097 --> 00:24:36,257
Wayne Bishop: um.

700
00:24:37,941 --> 00:24:40,047
Wayne Bishop: It doesn't lessen the way the boys felt

701
00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:40,508
Wayne Bishop: about it.

702
00:24:41,057 --> 00:24:43,498
Wayne Bishop: Or when they chose to come back, they did

703
00:24:43,518 --> 00:24:46,582
Wayne Bishop: it for good reasons, but it hurt when she

704
00:24:46,622 --> 00:24:48,438
Wayne Bishop: said, no, you know what, I'm not interested

705
00:24:48,518 --> 00:24:48,860
Wayne Bishop: anymore.

706
00:24:49,221 --> 00:24:49,522
Wayne Bishop: That was.

707
00:24:50,175 --> 00:24:51,963
Mark Haney: What prompted her move to Idaho.

708
00:24:52,996 --> 00:24:55,023
Wayne Bishop: They felt they could, between her and her

709
00:24:55,043 --> 00:24:58,551
Wayne Bishop: husband, that living up there with a lower

710
00:24:58,591 --> 00:25:00,078
Wayne Bishop: cost of living, that she wouldn't have to

711
00:25:00,118 --> 00:25:01,944
Wayne Bishop: work and could stay home and be a mom.

712
00:25:01,984 --> 00:25:07,122
Mark Haney: So yeah, yeah, um, my family, right now

713
00:25:07,255 --> 00:25:09,844
Mark Haney: we're transitioning in our own way as well,

714
00:25:09,955 --> 00:25:14,027
Mark Haney: and one of my buddies he's actually, um, uh,

715
00:25:14,116 --> 00:25:16,578
Mark Haney: natoma wealth management, by the way he

716
00:25:16,658 --> 00:25:20,227
Mark Haney: suggested that we write a family mission

717
00:25:20,287 --> 00:25:23,318
Mark Haney: statement, and you know like we live, all

718
00:25:23,378 --> 00:25:25,583
Mark Haney: we all live on this property and you know,

719
00:25:25,663 --> 00:25:31,082
Mark Haney: this unity is an asset, a valuable asset if

720
00:25:31,203 --> 00:25:33,729
Mark Haney: it can be, if it can be brought together

721
00:25:33,870 --> 00:25:36,661
Mark Haney: and continued, and he said he thought the

722
00:25:36,722 --> 00:25:38,577
Mark Haney: key to that was writing a family mission

723
00:25:38,617 --> 00:25:39,018
Mark Haney: statement.

724
00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:41,929
Mark Haney: So there, but me and my wife are supposed

725
00:25:41,949 --> 00:25:42,953
Mark Haney: to stay out of that.

726
00:25:43,234 --> 00:25:44,619
Mark Haney: They're supposed to present the family

727
00:25:44,659 --> 00:25:46,647
Mark Haney: mission statement to us and they're in the

728
00:25:46,667 --> 00:25:49,377
Mark Haney: process of preparing that or getting that

729
00:25:49,457 --> 00:25:50,822
Mark Haney: going right now.

730
00:25:51,344 --> 00:25:53,332
Mark Haney: Have you guys done a family mission

731
00:25:53,352 --> 00:25:54,155
Mark Haney: statement, or has that ever been

732
00:25:54,235 --> 00:25:54,798
Mark Haney: contemplated?

733
00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:57,288
Wayne Bishop: We don't even have a company mission

734
00:25:57,328 --> 00:25:57,750
Wayne Bishop: statement.

735
00:25:57,911 --> 00:25:58,312
Wayne Bishop: Okay.

736
00:26:01,881 --> 00:26:04,748
Mark Haney: No, so do you do annual goals and things

737
00:26:04,788 --> 00:26:05,209
Mark Haney: like that?

738
00:26:05,710 --> 00:26:07,393
Lee Bishop: Yes, yeah, okay, because that growth didn't

739
00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:08,135
Lee Bishop: happen by accident.

740
00:26:08,356 --> 00:26:11,285
Lee Bishop: Yeah, we have core values and definitely

741
00:26:11,365 --> 00:26:13,512
Lee Bishop: meetings, and there's just some little

742
00:26:13,573 --> 00:26:15,920
Lee Bishop: corporate stuff that we've probably missed

743
00:26:15,981 --> 00:26:17,024
Lee Bishop: along the way.

744
00:26:17,356 --> 00:26:19,957
Mark Haney: Well, I, I mean, it's obviously worked.

745
00:26:20,298 --> 00:26:21,240
Mark Haney: Uh, you've decided.

746
00:26:21,260 --> 00:26:22,623
Mark Haney: I always think of a.

747
00:26:23,104 --> 00:26:25,248
Mark Haney: A mission statement is what we are going to

748
00:26:25,355 --> 00:26:27,880
Mark Haney: be, so, or, excuse me, what we are going to

749
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,487
Mark Haney: do, and a vision statement is what we are

750
00:26:31,547 --> 00:26:34,221
Mark Haney: going to be, and it's all centered around

751
00:26:34,241 --> 00:26:35,205
Mark Haney: those core values.

752
00:26:35,747 --> 00:26:37,274
Mark Haney: And so how did you come up with the core

753
00:26:37,314 --> 00:26:37,575
Mark Haney: values?

754
00:26:37,676 --> 00:26:39,273
Mark Haney: Were they there when you got there or did

755
00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:39,455
Mark Haney: you help?

756
00:26:39,455 --> 00:26:40,977
Wayne Bishop: They were there when I got there, that was

757
00:26:40,997 --> 00:26:43,641
Wayne Bishop: something that's huge I had for years, of

758
00:26:43,701 --> 00:26:45,506
Wayne Bishop: course, heard about mission statements,

759
00:26:45,735 --> 00:26:47,758
Wayne Bishop: didn't understand the point, didn't take

760
00:26:47,778 --> 00:26:49,956
Wayne Bishop: the time to try to understand it, and

761
00:26:50,017 --> 00:26:52,023
Wayne Bishop: finally somebody made me understand why we

762
00:26:52,043 --> 00:26:53,856
Wayne Bishop: should have one, and I don't remember how

763
00:26:53,896 --> 00:26:56,819
Wayne Bishop: that happened, but so I bought a book and

764
00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:59,782
Wayne Bishop: started reading and it said you know, step

765
00:26:59,942 --> 00:27:02,364
Wayne Bishop: one is to define your core values.

766
00:27:02,544 --> 00:27:04,787
Wayne Bishop: And so we got that done, and that's as far

767
00:27:04,807 --> 00:27:05,187
Wayne Bishop: as we got.

768
00:27:05,267 --> 00:27:05,487
Wayne Bishop: Yeah.

769
00:27:05,527 --> 00:27:06,668
Wayne Bishop: Yeah, got back to work.

770
00:27:06,828 --> 00:27:08,891
Mark Haney: We got pumpkins to tend to.

771
00:27:12,715 --> 00:27:13,397
Mark Haney: So that's really cool.

772
00:27:13,457 --> 00:27:16,282
Mark Haney: So do you have, I would imagine, that

773
00:27:16,362 --> 00:27:20,817
Mark Haney: there's a vision for the company, and one

774
00:27:20,837 --> 00:27:23,283
Mark Haney: of the things I think we have to get right

775
00:27:23,664 --> 00:27:25,588
Mark Haney: if we want to attract the right teammates.

776
00:27:26,076 --> 00:27:28,144
Mark Haney: In my world, you want to attract investors,

777
00:27:28,716 --> 00:27:31,606
Mark Haney: if you want to get people to follow you,

778
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:34,155
Mark Haney: you need a compelling vision.

779
00:27:34,316 --> 00:27:36,003
Mark Haney: So how compelling is your vision?

780
00:27:37,137 --> 00:27:38,703
Lee Bishop: I think it's a very compelling one.

781
00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:41,284
Lee Bishop: You know, we always talk about what's next

782
00:27:41,325 --> 00:27:43,754
Lee Bishop: for us, so maybe we don't have a mission

783
00:27:43,794 --> 00:27:45,218
Lee Bishop: statement, but we're always talking about

784
00:27:45,238 --> 00:27:48,185
Lee Bishop: what's the next project and what's the one

785
00:27:48,246 --> 00:27:48,646
Lee Bishop: after that.

786
00:27:48,827 --> 00:27:50,179
Lee Bishop: And the one after that and the one after

787
00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:52,930
Lee Bishop: that We've got, you know, I like to say,

788
00:27:53,011 --> 00:27:55,097
Lee Bishop: five years of projects that are likely 15

789
00:27:55,117 --> 00:27:57,083
Lee Bishop: years of projects lined up, you know.

790
00:27:57,183 --> 00:28:00,982
Lee Bishop: But the nature of our business is we always

791
00:28:01,022 --> 00:28:02,145
Lee Bishop: have to do capital improvements.

792
00:28:02,235 --> 00:28:03,701
Lee Bishop: That's what we have to do to keep people

793
00:28:03,741 --> 00:28:04,223
Lee Bishop: coming back.

794
00:28:05,817 --> 00:28:07,315
Lee Bishop: With that, you've got to have some vision

795
00:28:07,716 --> 00:28:10,345
Lee Bishop: and some foresight of what to do next.

796
00:28:10,435 --> 00:28:11,440
Mark Haney: All right, well, so I'm going to have you

797
00:28:11,555 --> 00:28:15,560
Mark Haney: paint the picture for me, lee here, what is

798
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:15,721
Mark Haney: the?

799
00:28:16,002 --> 00:28:17,045
Mark Haney: So I walk through the door.

800
00:28:19,375 --> 00:28:20,037
Mark Haney: You still have the train, lee here.

801
00:28:20,077 --> 00:28:20,699
Mark Haney: So I walked through the door.

802
00:28:20,719 --> 00:28:21,743
Mark Haney: You still have the train, right, that you

803
00:28:21,763 --> 00:28:22,264
Mark Haney: and your dad built right.

804
00:28:22,285 --> 00:28:23,388
Mark Haney: So you got this train and then I remember

805
00:28:23,448 --> 00:28:24,595
Mark Haney: going out in the fields it must have been

806
00:28:24,695 --> 00:28:27,741
Mark Haney: on a hayride type thing and then you get to

807
00:28:27,801 --> 00:28:30,406
Mark Haney: pick out your pumpkins, but then you can

808
00:28:30,426 --> 00:28:33,999
Mark Haney: come back to this sort of centralized area

809
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:37,266
Mark Haney: where there's get stuff to eat and petting

810
00:28:37,306 --> 00:28:38,188
Mark Haney: zoo, and all that Now.

811
00:28:38,208 --> 00:28:39,497
Mark Haney: Now that was 10 years ago.

812
00:28:39,878 --> 00:28:41,202
Mark Haney: Pay me a picture of what it is today,

813
00:28:41,222 --> 00:28:42,205
Mark Haney: because I know it's changed.

814
00:28:42,225 --> 00:28:43,777
Mark Haney: You've done some capital improvements, yeah

815
00:28:43,817 --> 00:28:44,739
Mark Haney: so we have now.

816
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,025
Lee Bishop: We have five or six, uh, amusement style

817
00:28:48,045 --> 00:28:48,326
Lee Bishop: rides.

818
00:28:48,767 --> 00:28:50,998
Lee Bishop: Okay, on the train, a carousel.

819
00:28:51,038 --> 00:28:52,221
Lee Bishop: We have a airplane ride.

820
00:28:52,241 --> 00:28:53,405
Lee Bishop: That's kind of like the dumbo ride at

821
00:28:53,445 --> 00:28:53,946
Lee Bishop: disneyland.

822
00:28:53,966 --> 00:28:56,259
Lee Bishop: We have a, uh, tootling tractors is what we

823
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:56,479
Lee Bishop: call.

824
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,262
Lee Bishop: It was just tractors that go around some

825
00:28:58,302 --> 00:29:00,065
Lee Bishop: scenes and animatronics thing to each other.

826
00:29:00,747 --> 00:29:02,796
Lee Bishop: Uh, we installed a teacup ride last year.

827
00:29:03,719 --> 00:29:06,206
Lee Bishop: Um, we have you pick sunflowers, a petting

828
00:29:06,226 --> 00:29:09,315
Lee Bishop: zoo, a corn maze, uh you know, apple cider

829
00:29:09,395 --> 00:29:11,460
Lee Bishop: slushies, which is our number one seller, a

830
00:29:11,942 --> 00:29:14,007
Lee Bishop: bakery that my grandma, you know, created

831
00:29:14,107 --> 00:29:19,297
Lee Bishop: and, and like a food court style thing on

832
00:29:19,317 --> 00:29:20,019
Lee Bishop: top of a bunch of you know, weekend

833
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:21,081
Lee Bishop: entertainment around the farm of jugglers

834
00:29:21,161 --> 00:29:23,446
Lee Bishop: and, uh, all that other stuff, and then we

835
00:29:23,487 --> 00:29:24,315
Lee Bishop: have a bar on site.

836
00:29:24,356 --> 00:29:25,819
Mark Haney: Now, too, that's serving the hard cider

837
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:28,326
Mark Haney: that I came to make okay, yeah, I see that

838
00:29:28,346 --> 00:29:30,399
Mark Haney: in your shirt is this is, uh, this hard

839
00:29:30,439 --> 00:29:30,760
Mark Haney: cider.

840
00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:31,402
Mark Haney: Tell me about that.

841
00:29:31,422 --> 00:29:32,866
Lee Bishop: That sounds like some a reason for me to

842
00:29:32,906 --> 00:29:35,361
Lee Bishop: get out there, yeah, and uh, one of my

843
00:29:35,421 --> 00:29:37,286
Lee Bishop: reasons to come back was I, my dad and my

844
00:29:37,326 --> 00:29:40,485
Lee Bishop: sister went to a class in 2019 or 2018 how

845
00:29:40,505 --> 00:29:41,951
Lee Bishop: to make hard cider, and they both left that

846
00:29:41,991 --> 00:29:43,376
Lee Bishop: class saying man, we don't have time to do

847
00:29:43,436 --> 00:29:46,282
Lee Bishop: that aha, so I'll have to do it, but don't

848
00:29:46,442 --> 00:29:48,066
Lee Bishop: yeah, so you make a.

849
00:29:48,146 --> 00:29:49,956
Mark Haney: This is a drink that um.

850
00:29:50,076 --> 00:29:52,579
Mark Haney: It's got alcohol in it I take it and uh, so

851
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:56,004
Mark Haney: you, uh, you sell it there at your business.

852
00:29:56,325 --> 00:29:57,687
Lee Bishop: Yeah, we make it.

853
00:29:57,747 --> 00:30:00,271
Lee Bishop: We just we're about to keg our first stuff

854
00:30:00,415 --> 00:30:02,422
Lee Bishop: for the 2025 season.

855
00:30:02,623 --> 00:30:04,461
Lee Bishop: On Monday, we'll be our first kegging.

856
00:30:05,416 --> 00:30:07,223
Lee Bishop: So, yeah, I started making hard cider in

857
00:30:07,243 --> 00:30:07,825
Lee Bishop: 2020.

858
00:30:07,975 --> 00:30:10,303
Lee Bishop: I'm a finance guy, so I'm not a chemistry

859
00:30:10,343 --> 00:30:12,442
Lee Bishop: guy, so I had to learn how to make it,

860
00:30:13,036 --> 00:30:14,001
Lee Bishop: which took some years.

861
00:30:15,276 --> 00:30:17,236
Lee Bishop: It's really one of the things that really

862
00:30:17,276 --> 00:30:17,638
Lee Bishop: took off.

863
00:30:17,698 --> 00:30:19,718
Lee Bishop: Our business, too, is now you can have hard

864
00:30:19,738 --> 00:30:21,061
Lee Bishop: cider all around the farm.

865
00:30:21,261 --> 00:30:21,963
Mark Haney: What's it taste like?

866
00:30:21,983 --> 00:30:22,604
Mark Haney: What goes into it?

867
00:30:23,527 --> 00:30:24,188
Lee Bishop: It's apple.

868
00:30:25,276 --> 00:30:26,842
Lee Bishop: The base is apple, which is like a white

869
00:30:26,883 --> 00:30:29,495
Lee Bishop: wine, and we sweeten it up with a flavor.

870
00:30:29,675 --> 00:30:32,122
Lee Bishop: So we have just an apple which is back

871
00:30:32,142 --> 00:30:33,185
Lee Bishop: sweetened with a little apple juice

872
00:30:33,225 --> 00:30:33,707
Lee Bishop: concentrate.

873
00:30:34,397 --> 00:30:36,964
Lee Bishop: Or we have a blackberry, a pineapple, guava

874
00:30:37,145 --> 00:30:38,457
Lee Bishop: or a pear, so we juice concentrate.

875
00:30:38,477 --> 00:30:39,260
Lee Bishop: Or we have a blackberry, pineapple, guava

876
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,003
Lee Bishop: or a pear, so we have four different

877
00:30:40,023 --> 00:30:40,906
Lee Bishop: flavors right now, but the base of that is

878
00:30:40,927 --> 00:30:42,814
Lee Bishop: all fermented apple juice okay, and then

879
00:30:42,834 --> 00:30:44,599
Lee Bishop: the only place to get it is at your

880
00:30:44,659 --> 00:30:44,980
Lee Bishop: location.

881
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,564
Mark Haney: Are you guys selling it through retail?

882
00:30:46,705 --> 00:30:47,856
Lee Bishop: just at the farm right now.

883
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:53,285
Wayne Bishop: We are constrained with space right now

884
00:30:53,966 --> 00:30:55,589
Wayne Bishop: where we make it just to get it made for

885
00:30:55,609 --> 00:30:56,517
Wayne Bishop: what we can serve.

886
00:30:56,557 --> 00:30:59,420
Lee Bishop: Yeah, okay, we've run out all year for the

887
00:30:59,481 --> 00:31:01,208
Lee Bishop: nine weeks we're open yeah, okay.

888
00:31:01,228 --> 00:31:02,372
Mark Haney: So now paint me a picture.

889
00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:03,857
Mark Haney: You say you have these capital improvements

890
00:31:03,977 --> 00:31:07,564
Mark Haney: that are, um, that you've dreamt up, um, is

891
00:31:07,624 --> 00:31:11,198
Mark Haney: that to make the place, uh, different?

892
00:31:11,298 --> 00:31:13,744
Mark Haney: Obviously you need to put capital you got

893
00:31:13,764 --> 00:31:15,108
Mark Haney: to put money into your business to keep it

894
00:31:15,296 --> 00:31:15,618
Mark Haney: going.

895
00:31:15,638 --> 00:31:18,015
Mark Haney: But are you going to do new things?

896
00:31:18,135 --> 00:31:18,576
Mark Haney: What were the?

897
00:31:18,617 --> 00:31:19,579
Mark Haney: What are those things going to look like?

898
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:22,387
Lee Bishop: yeah, so uh, this year our big project is a

899
00:31:22,836 --> 00:31:26,582
Lee Bishop: big um snow tube style slide that's six

900
00:31:26,662 --> 00:31:27,023
Lee Bishop: lanes.

901
00:31:27,985 --> 00:31:30,409
Lee Bishop: Uh, it's 50, 60 feet in the air goes 200

902
00:31:30,429 --> 00:31:33,740
Lee Bishop: feet long oh my goodness, okay, snow tube

903
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:36,945
Lee Bishop: style so um, sit on like a snow tube and go

904
00:31:36,985 --> 00:31:38,027
Lee Bishop: down this big, huge hill.

905
00:31:38,828 --> 00:31:40,658
Mark Haney: Uh, it's all bumpered, contained and you

906
00:31:40,679 --> 00:31:42,747
Mark Haney: can race each other okay, so not with

907
00:31:42,827 --> 00:31:44,735
Mark Haney: actual snow, though, but yeah right, you're

908
00:31:44,795 --> 00:31:45,897
Mark Haney: going down, is it?

909
00:31:46,198 --> 00:31:49,364
Lee Bishop: uh dirt or no, it's on a, it's a plastic,

910
00:31:49,524 --> 00:31:49,945
Lee Bishop: it's a.

911
00:31:50,186 --> 00:31:52,456
Wayne Bishop: It's a turf, which is the same thing that,

912
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:54,821
Wayne Bishop: like skiers or boarders use to train on

913
00:31:54,861 --> 00:31:55,663
Wayne Bishop: when there's no snow.

914
00:31:56,324 --> 00:31:56,986
Mark Haney: Same same stuff.

915
00:31:57,046 --> 00:31:58,229
Mark Haney: And then how high is it again?

916
00:31:59,576 --> 00:32:02,826
Wayne Bishop: Well, the actual drop, I think, is around

917
00:32:02,906 --> 00:32:05,695
Wayne Bishop: 35 feet, but there we're going to, we're

918
00:32:05,715 --> 00:32:08,462
Wayne Bishop: going to put it in, um, we're going to put

919
00:32:08,522 --> 00:32:10,347
Wayne Bishop: that coming out of a building that's going

920
00:32:10,367 --> 00:32:12,542
Wayne Bishop: to look like an old grain elevator or one

921
00:32:12,562 --> 00:32:14,529
Wayne Bishop: of the old rice dryers that are that are in

922
00:32:14,589 --> 00:32:15,071
Wayne Bishop: our area.

923
00:32:15,235 --> 00:32:18,124
Mark Haney: So that building is going to be almost 50

924
00:32:18,164 --> 00:32:20,699
Mark Haney: feet tall, okay, and so it's going to be a

925
00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:23,766
Mark Haney: real landmark and so you walk upstairs to

926
00:32:23,826 --> 00:32:25,997
Mark Haney: get there and then you'll go down the slide

927
00:32:26,017 --> 00:32:29,503
Mark Haney: and it's 200 feet long, long and you're

928
00:32:29,564 --> 00:32:30,084
Mark Haney: going.

929
00:32:30,104 --> 00:32:33,358
Mark Haney: Uh, so are you engineering this well?

930
00:32:33,939 --> 00:32:34,562
Wayne Bishop: yeah, somewhat.

931
00:32:34,622 --> 00:32:37,090
Wayne Bishop: Yeah, I mean I, I, which, which is what I'm

932
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:37,451
Wayne Bishop: still.

933
00:32:37,551 --> 00:32:39,177
Wayne Bishop: That's why he's letting me still work for

934
00:32:39,217 --> 00:32:40,603
Wayne Bishop: him yeah, you got to.

935
00:32:40,623 --> 00:32:42,692
Wayne Bishop: You got that mechanical engineering stuff,

936
00:32:42,712 --> 00:32:44,578
Wayne Bishop: yeah yeah, and, and that's what I enjoy

937
00:32:44,619 --> 00:32:47,066
Wayne Bishop: doing the most, or or the the new projects

938
00:32:47,147 --> 00:32:50,176
Wayne Bishop: on the farm so, uh, it's for adults or kids.

939
00:32:50,237 --> 00:32:52,965
Mark Haney: I take it either and you're going pretty

940
00:32:53,025 --> 00:32:53,406
Mark Haney: fast.

941
00:32:53,447 --> 00:32:55,774
Lee Bishop: It sounds like yeah it's a big, yeah, and a

942
00:32:55,794 --> 00:32:57,270
Lee Bishop: lot of farms have done a smaller version of

943
00:32:57,214 --> 00:32:57,415
Lee Bishop: this.

944
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:57,955
Lee Bishop: You know we're big, yeah, and a lot of

945
00:32:57,899 --> 00:32:58,592
Lee Bishop: farms have done a smaller version of this.

946
00:32:58,632 --> 00:32:59,695
Lee Bishop: We're doing six lanes.

947
00:32:59,755 --> 00:33:02,042
Lee Bishop: A lot of farms have done two lanes of it I

948
00:33:02,082 --> 00:33:03,486
Lee Bishop: like the six lanes that way too.

949
00:33:03,836 --> 00:33:05,764
Mark Haney: You know people, brother and sisters can go

950
00:33:05,804 --> 00:33:07,572
Mark Haney: down at the same time and kind of race,

951
00:33:07,592 --> 00:33:07,893
Mark Haney: yeah.

952
00:33:07,913 --> 00:33:09,579
Lee Bishop: So anyway, that's one of the projects, but

953
00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:10,682
Lee Bishop: you know we're working on a.

954
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,916
Lee Bishop: Uh, we're really behind on food service

955
00:33:12,956 --> 00:33:13,336
Lee Bishop: right now.

956
00:33:13,396 --> 00:33:15,780
Lee Bishop: Our crowd is demanding more food, more

957
00:33:15,841 --> 00:33:17,483
Lee Bishop: lunch items, so we're working on another

958
00:33:17,543 --> 00:33:19,326
Lee Bishop: kitchen which would be a chicken strips and

959
00:33:19,347 --> 00:33:20,128
Lee Bishop: corn dog style.

960
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:24,054
Lee Bishop: Um, we want another building for a hard

961
00:33:24,075 --> 00:33:25,660
Lee Bishop: cider production so we can make it

962
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:26,523
Lee Bishop: permanent in there.

963
00:33:27,226 --> 00:33:28,973
Lee Bishop: Uh, we desperately need more bathrooms.

964
00:33:29,033 --> 00:33:32,375
Lee Bishop: Our customers are um begging for more

965
00:33:32,415 --> 00:33:33,816
Lee Bishop: bathrooms, right now we have to kind of

966
00:33:33,836 --> 00:33:35,056
Lee Bishop: backfill with porter potties.

967
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:40,697
Wayne Bishop: We're also thinking about what the next

968
00:33:40,777 --> 00:33:42,077
Wayne Bishop: amusement ride will be.

969
00:33:42,137 --> 00:33:43,117
Wayne Bishop: Those take.

970
00:33:43,157 --> 00:33:44,618
Wayne Bishop: If you're going to order a new one, take

971
00:33:44,638 --> 00:33:45,918
Wayne Bishop: about a year and a half to get them.

972
00:33:46,718 --> 00:33:49,278
Wayne Bishop: So we're going to go to Germany this summer

973
00:33:49,338 --> 00:33:51,259
Wayne Bishop: and look at one that we think we like.

974
00:33:51,879 --> 00:33:54,179
Mark Haney: We were talking about subsea systems

975
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:54,699
Mark Haney: earlier.

976
00:33:54,779 --> 00:33:55,939
Mark Haney: Have you talked to people that are

977
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,703
Mark Haney: obviously really good on underwater rides

978
00:33:59,783 --> 00:34:01,147
Mark Haney: and things like that, but they build

979
00:34:01,187 --> 00:34:02,310
Mark Haney: amusement type rides.

980
00:34:02,771 --> 00:34:04,082
Mark Haney: Have you talked to those guys at all about

981
00:34:04,163 --> 00:34:05,085
Mark Haney: what you're, what you're thinking?

982
00:34:05,546 --> 00:34:06,128
Wayne Bishop: not really.

983
00:34:06,208 --> 00:34:07,901
Wayne Bishop: It's interesting, you know they go to the

984
00:34:07,921 --> 00:34:10,267
Wayne Bishop: same conference we do in orlando when we're

985
00:34:10,287 --> 00:34:12,801
Wayne Bishop: going to uh to look for these things and

986
00:34:13,041 --> 00:34:15,187
Wayne Bishop: and uh, we haven't specifically talked to

987
00:34:15,227 --> 00:34:17,151
Wayne Bishop: them about, about what they could do for us

988
00:34:17,192 --> 00:34:17,740
Wayne Bishop: we should do that.

989
00:34:17,841 --> 00:34:19,264
Mark Haney: It's fun because you know they've got such

990
00:34:19,304 --> 00:34:21,350
Mark Haney: imagination they were developing a ride.

991
00:34:21,831 --> 00:34:23,586
Mark Haney: Uh, last time we talked to them actually an

992
00:34:24,242 --> 00:34:26,348
Mark Haney: underwater ride, yeah, yeah and for those

993
00:34:26,408 --> 00:34:28,234
Mark Haney: listening subsea systems has got an

994
00:34:28,334 --> 00:34:31,623
Mark Haney: underwater car among other rides, and they

995
00:34:32,244 --> 00:34:33,226
Mark Haney: they have them in a mute.

996
00:34:33,387 --> 00:34:35,592
Mark Haney: Uh, excuse me, like resort areas typically,

997
00:34:36,193 --> 00:34:38,504
Mark Haney: but they are also a family business and a

998
00:34:38,564 --> 00:34:40,568
Mark Haney: lot like you guys, I mean just a great

999
00:34:40,648 --> 00:34:42,872
Mark Haney: story of innovation and growth and

1000
00:34:43,273 --> 00:34:44,115
Mark Haney: stick-to-itiveness.

1001
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:52,311
Mark Haney: So tell me more about like what you see for

1002
00:34:52,351 --> 00:34:54,275
Mark Haney: like the next 12 months or so with you and

1003
00:34:54,295 --> 00:34:54,901
Mark Haney: your brother.

1004
00:34:55,282 --> 00:34:56,804
Mark Haney: You know you've got to get through your

1005
00:34:58,147 --> 00:35:01,774
Mark Haney: probationary period and so how does?

1006
00:35:01,794 --> 00:35:03,164
Mark Haney: that if he doesn't get through it, do we go

1007
00:35:03,205 --> 00:35:04,601
Mark Haney: to the consultant or do we go to?

1008
00:35:04,621 --> 00:35:07,467
Lee Bishop: we go to bro brother, I like to think I

1009
00:35:07,507 --> 00:35:09,472
Lee Bishop: already completed it, because the thing is

1010
00:35:09,512 --> 00:35:11,623
Lee Bishop: she told us last february, I think it was,

1011
00:35:11,884 --> 00:35:13,689
Lee Bishop: you know okay, we decided lee was probably

1012
00:35:13,709 --> 00:35:14,912
Lee Bishop: the next guy and that's it.

1013
00:35:14,952 --> 00:35:16,203
Lee Bishop: Well, I'm not gonna let you do it.

1014
00:35:16,504 --> 00:35:18,830
Lee Bishop: Take the title till next year, but you can

1015
00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:19,572
Lee Bishop: act like it now.

1016
00:35:19,812 --> 00:35:21,683
Lee Bishop: So I already I've already done it for a

1017
00:35:21,743 --> 00:35:23,808
Lee Bishop: year, in my opinion, but he's still holding

1018
00:35:23,828 --> 00:35:24,911
Lee Bishop: the probationary card.

1019
00:35:24,951 --> 00:35:26,455
Wayne Bishop: I just made that up when we got here.

1020
00:35:27,578 --> 00:35:29,162
Mark Haney: I love it that you're still involved in the

1021
00:35:29,222 --> 00:35:29,823
Mark Haney: business too.

1022
00:35:29,924 --> 00:35:32,130
Mark Haney: It makes it there's a lot of continuity.

1023
00:35:32,170 --> 00:35:34,242
Wayne Bishop: I'll tell you what, mark I'm the happiest

1024
00:35:34,282 --> 00:35:37,028
Wayne Bishop: I've ever been right now, because these

1025
00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:39,454
Wayne Bishop: guys are more than ready to run the company.

1026
00:35:40,361 --> 00:35:41,965
Wayne Bishop: I still get to work in it and do the fun

1027
00:35:42,005 --> 00:35:44,972
Wayne Bishop: parts and, and, um, do some other things

1028
00:35:45,562 --> 00:35:47,308
Wayne Bishop: with my time that I want to be, want to

1029
00:35:47,328 --> 00:35:49,737
Wayne Bishop: work on too, and it's, it's great.

1030
00:35:50,078 --> 00:35:51,141
Wayne Bishop: These three weeks have been great.

1031
00:35:51,782 --> 00:35:55,348
Mark Haney: Oh, that's great a lot of people, uh uh,

1032
00:35:56,209 --> 00:35:59,555
Mark Haney: want to shy away from the 800 employees in

1033
00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:01,284
Mark Haney: california kind of thing.

1034
00:36:01,786 --> 00:36:04,292
Mark Haney: Um, so you have 800, I guess most of them

1035
00:36:04,332 --> 00:36:06,062
Mark Haney: are seasonal type employees.

1036
00:36:06,082 --> 00:36:09,169
Mark Haney: But some of these employees work year round

1037
00:36:09,249 --> 00:36:11,494
Mark Haney: to keep the business operational.

1038
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:14,064
Mark Haney: You know, keep the farm rolling.

1039
00:36:15,005 --> 00:36:16,668
Mark Haney: How difficult is that to?

1040
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:18,211
Mark Haney: I guess?

1041
00:36:19,373 --> 00:36:21,364
Mark Haney: It seems to me that it'd be running the

1042
00:36:21,465 --> 00:36:22,531
Mark Haney: farm pieces.

1043
00:36:22,551 --> 00:36:24,059
Mark Haney: You know, know, that's kind of like that

1044
00:36:24,099 --> 00:36:25,342
Mark Haney: just kind of continues.

1045
00:36:25,803 --> 00:36:28,749
Mark Haney: But when you have to staff up, um for these

1046
00:36:28,809 --> 00:36:31,963
Mark Haney: seasons, talk to me about the what goes

1047
00:36:32,043 --> 00:36:35,230
Mark Haney: into that yeah, so uh, luckily, most of

1048
00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:38,321
Mark Haney: that's not on my plate okay that's your

1049
00:36:38,361 --> 00:36:41,884
Mark Haney: brother, no, our HR manager oh okay, um,

1050
00:36:42,344 --> 00:36:43,885
Mark Haney: it's, uh, it's been a process.

1051
00:36:43,945 --> 00:36:46,086
Lee Bishop: I think we've grown it, certainly over the

1052
00:36:46,126 --> 00:36:49,269
Lee Bishop: last few years of the last 10, 15 years.

1053
00:36:49,309 --> 00:36:52,151
Lee Bishop: Our HR program my mom kind of started that

1054
00:36:52,431 --> 00:36:54,292
Lee Bishop: and then my sister came in and was our HR

1055
00:36:54,332 --> 00:36:55,853
Lee Bishop: manager for a long time and kind of

1056
00:36:55,893 --> 00:36:58,455
Lee Bishop: developed this, our strategy, going into it.

1057
00:36:58,915 --> 00:37:01,017
Lee Bishop: Now our HR manager and my wife play a big

1058
00:37:01,097 --> 00:37:02,998
Lee Bishop: role in getting the people out.

1059
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,021
Lee Bishop: Now our HR manager and my wife play a big

1060
00:37:04,041 --> 00:37:04,642
Lee Bishop: role in getting the people out.

1061
00:37:04,662 --> 00:37:07,146
Lee Bishop: You know we have 20 full-time employees

1062
00:37:07,206 --> 00:37:07,627
Lee Bishop: right now.

1063
00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:08,989
Lee Bishop: We have one HR manager.

1064
00:37:09,569 --> 00:37:12,273
Lee Bishop: We'll bring in another 8 to 10 people to

1065
00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:13,375
Lee Bishop: help with the hiring process.

1066
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,444
Lee Bishop: We'll hire 850-ish employees.

1067
00:37:17,464 --> 00:37:19,251
Lee Bishop: You know last year we had about 550 that

1068
00:37:19,271 --> 00:37:21,058
Lee Bishop: were returners, so their paperwork is

1069
00:37:21,078 --> 00:37:21,379
Lee Bishop: pretty seamless.

1070
00:37:21,399 --> 00:37:24,346
Mark Haney: Oh wow, that makes it so much easier.

1071
00:37:24,426 --> 00:37:26,471
Mark Haney: So you have supervisors, you have people

1072
00:37:26,512 --> 00:37:28,404
Mark Haney: coming back, so you already have your

1073
00:37:28,424 --> 00:37:30,591
Mark Haney: little management staff sort of set up.

1074
00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:32,784
Lee Bishop: That was a struggle for us, especially in

1075
00:37:32,804 --> 00:37:34,187
Lee Bishop: 2020 and 2021.

1076
00:37:34,588 --> 00:37:35,510
Lee Bishop: We lost a lot.

1077
00:37:36,091 --> 00:37:37,822
Lee Bishop: Our retention rate on seasonal employees

1078
00:37:37,842 --> 00:37:40,809
Lee Bishop: was not good, so we spent a lot of effort

1079
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:42,721
Lee Bishop: over the last three or four years to try to

1080
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:45,629
Lee Bishop: develop some strategies to get people to

1081
00:37:45,669 --> 00:37:47,715
Lee Bishop: come back year after year, and it's working

1082
00:37:47,795 --> 00:37:48,036
Lee Bishop: now.

1083
00:37:48,778 --> 00:37:51,064
Lee Bishop: So we're only hiring 300 or so brand new

1084
00:37:51,104 --> 00:37:51,545
Lee Bishop: employees.

1085
00:37:51,585 --> 00:37:52,527
Lee Bishop: Everybody else comes in.

1086
00:37:52,908 --> 00:37:53,629
Lee Bishop: They know the drill.

1087
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:56,484
Lee Bishop: We usually put them back to where they were

1088
00:37:56,966 --> 00:37:57,910
Lee Bishop: the previous season.

1089
00:37:58,251 --> 00:37:59,516
Lee Bishop: It makes life a lot easier.

1090
00:37:59,938 --> 00:38:01,061
Lee Bishop: My brother and I were talking just the

1091
00:38:01,081 --> 00:38:03,425
Lee Bishop: other day how much easier the start of this

1092
00:38:03,445 --> 00:38:05,670
Lee Bishop: season was than previous season, and it's

1093
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:07,693
Lee Bishop: it was, you know, the biggest year we've

1094
00:38:07,714 --> 00:38:08,034
Lee Bishop: ever had.

1095
00:38:08,962 --> 00:38:10,328
Lee Bishop: So there's something to be said about

1096
00:38:10,368 --> 00:38:10,950
Lee Bishop: getting returners.

1097
00:38:11,392 --> 00:38:13,200
Wayne Bishop: So a number of years ago now I couldn't

1098
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,945
Wayne Bishop: tell you exactly what year it was, but we

1099
00:38:14,985 --> 00:38:17,070
Wayne Bishop: went over a million dollars in payroll that

1100
00:38:17,111 --> 00:38:19,064
Wayne Bishop: year and now we're four, four and a half

1101
00:38:19,124 --> 00:38:21,810
Wayne Bishop: million, but, but we went over a million

1102
00:38:21,850 --> 00:38:22,151
Wayne Bishop: dollars.

1103
00:38:22,211 --> 00:38:24,822
Wayne Bishop: And I thought four and a half million, but

1104
00:38:24,842 --> 00:38:25,686
Wayne Bishop: but we went over a million dollars and I

1105
00:38:25,746 --> 00:38:26,529
Wayne Bishop: thought, holy cow, we've never spent that

1106
00:38:26,549 --> 00:38:26,890
Wayne Bishop: much on anything.

1107
00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:28,677
Wayne Bishop: You know, any improvement we'd ever made on

1108
00:38:28,717 --> 00:38:30,363
Wayne Bishop: the farm at that point had never spent a

1109
00:38:30,403 --> 00:38:30,924
Wayne Bishop: million dollars.

1110
00:38:30,944 --> 00:38:32,729
Wayne Bishop: And I thought, here we are spending it

1111
00:38:32,890 --> 00:38:35,725
Wayne Bishop: every year on people and, and yet we put

1112
00:38:35,946 --> 00:38:38,191
Wayne Bishop: very little effort into making sure that

1113
00:38:38,211 --> 00:38:39,241
Wayne Bishop: we're getting the best people and that

1114
00:38:39,261 --> 00:38:40,125
Wayne Bishop: we're training them and and giving them the

1115
00:38:40,145 --> 00:38:40,949
Wayne Bishop: culture that we want them to pass on the

1116
00:38:40,969 --> 00:38:41,813
Wayne Bishop: best people, and that we're training them

1117
00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:42,818
Wayne Bishop: and and giving them the culture that we

1118
00:38:42,838 --> 00:38:43,240
Wayne Bishop: want them to pass on.

1119
00:38:43,741 --> 00:38:46,150
Wayne Bishop: So so really, my wife jumped in at that

1120
00:38:46,210 --> 00:38:46,471
Wayne Bishop: point.

1121
00:38:46,572 --> 00:38:48,740
Wayne Bishop: You know we talked about it and we happened

1122
00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:51,290
Wayne Bishop: to go to a seminar that year where a lady

1123
00:38:51,351 --> 00:38:53,138
Wayne Bishop: talked about how to do behavioral

1124
00:38:53,218 --> 00:38:55,804
Wayne Bishop: interviews and and and.

1125
00:38:55,884 --> 00:38:58,891
Wayne Bishop: So we made some huge changes at that time,

1126
00:38:59,071 --> 00:39:01,928
Wayne Bishop: started getting better people and, and then

1127
00:39:01,969 --> 00:39:04,422
Wayne Bishop: likely Lee and his wife have worked on this

1128
00:39:04,502 --> 00:39:06,330
Wayne Bishop: the last three out four years.

1129
00:39:06,371 --> 00:39:06,793
Lee Bishop: We really.

1130
00:39:07,355 --> 00:39:09,102
Lee Bishop: The interview process hasn't really changed

1131
00:39:09,122 --> 00:39:11,010
Lee Bishop: since my mom took it over yeah it's

1132
00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:12,094
Lee Bishop: relatively similar.

1133
00:39:12,174 --> 00:39:14,769
Lee Bishop: You know, we we have to hire kids, and

1134
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:16,054
Lee Bishop: that's struggle right.

1135
00:39:16,115 --> 00:39:18,061
Mark Haney: Most of the workers that you hire are

1136
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:20,706
Mark Haney: direct facing with customers.

1137
00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:22,610
Mark Haney: Yeah, yeah, good, good, half of them at

1138
00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:24,033
Mark Haney: least, and uh, anyway.

1139
00:39:24,093 --> 00:39:26,183
Lee Bishop: So, yeah, my mom really built up that first

1140
00:39:26,243 --> 00:39:28,549
Lee Bishop: half part of it and then, you know, my wife

1141
00:39:28,589 --> 00:39:31,182
Lee Bishop: really, uh, has built up the back half,

1142
00:39:31,222 --> 00:39:32,986
Lee Bishop: which is retaining them and getting them to

1143
00:39:33,026 --> 00:39:35,172
Lee Bishop: come back, and so you know, we have to do a

1144
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,646
Lee Bishop: lot of incentives to get them to come back

1145
00:39:37,706 --> 00:39:39,270
Lee Bishop: year after year, but it's working what's

1146
00:39:39,330 --> 00:39:42,802
Lee Bishop: great too is that for some reason we don't

1147
00:39:42,842 --> 00:39:44,803
Lee Bishop: fully understand, Hopefully just people

1148
00:39:44,843 --> 00:39:46,865
Lee Bishop: enjoy working for us, but hopefully that's

1149
00:39:46,905 --> 00:39:47,285
Lee Bishop: the reason.

1150
00:39:47,345 --> 00:39:49,247
Wayne Bishop: But we just get a ton of applicants Other

1151
00:39:49,267 --> 00:39:50,828
Wayne Bishop: than those couple of school there you have.

1152
00:39:51,628 --> 00:39:52,849
Wayne Bishop: Lindhurst High School is out there.

1153
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,126
Mark Haney: What else Wheatland?

1154
00:40:05,146 --> 00:40:05,369
Lee Bishop: High School.

1155
00:40:05,389 --> 00:40:07,469
Lee Bishop: There's Wheatland High School there, but we

1156
00:40:07,489 --> 00:40:09,002
Lee Bishop: get a lot from Yuba County in general, so

1157
00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:09,926
Lee Bishop: Plumas Lake.

1158
00:40:10,046 --> 00:40:11,869
Wayne Bishop: But also Sutter County and Sutter County.

1159
00:40:11,929 --> 00:40:14,287
Mark Haney: Okay, people get to drive for that type of

1160
00:40:14,307 --> 00:40:15,786
Mark Haney: thing, it's probably a great.

1161
00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:19,124
Mark Haney: It's probably like a part-time job for most

1162
00:40:19,164 --> 00:40:19,825
Mark Haney: people, right?

1163
00:40:19,865 --> 00:40:22,190
Lee Bishop: It's right before Christmas, so you can put

1164
00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:23,552
Lee Bishop: a couple extra thousand bucks in your

1165
00:40:23,572 --> 00:40:23,953
Lee Bishop: pocket, right?

1166
00:40:23,973 --> 00:40:24,274
Mark Haney: before.

1167
00:40:24,294 --> 00:40:24,654
Lee Bishop: Christmas.

1168
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,066
Lee Bishop: That's how we get a lot of good people on

1169
00:40:26,086 --> 00:40:26,528
Lee Bishop: the weekends.

1170
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:28,467
Mark Haney: Yeah, and people, probably parents.

1171
00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:30,226
Mark Haney: You have any parents that drive out there

1172
00:40:30,266 --> 00:40:31,189
Mark Haney: and their kid is a worker.

1173
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,645
Mark Haney: Their teenage kid is a worker and they're a

1174
00:40:32,686 --> 00:40:32,987
Mark Haney: worker.

1175
00:40:33,027 --> 00:40:36,384
Mark Haney: Yeah, because transportation for a 16 or

1176
00:40:36,424 --> 00:40:38,847
Mark Haney: 17-year-old is harder, especially if you've

1177
00:40:38,867 --> 00:40:39,788
Mark Haney: got to drive 20 minutes.

1178
00:40:40,269 --> 00:40:41,731
Wayne Bishop: We've had that happen a number of times,

1179
00:40:41,771 --> 00:40:44,815
Wayne Bishop: where we hire a kid and then their mom will

1180
00:40:44,835 --> 00:40:46,041
Wayne Bishop: come in and say you know what I got to

1181
00:40:46,081 --> 00:40:46,863
Wayne Bishop: drive here anyway.

1182
00:40:46,943 --> 00:40:48,307
Wayne Bishop: Could I work too, yeah?

1183
00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:51,784
Lee Bishop: Yeah, we get a lot and it just seems like

1184
00:40:52,165 --> 00:40:53,505
Lee Bishop: we're getting better at that, because I

1185
00:40:53,526 --> 00:40:54,579
Lee Bishop: think we're doing a really good job

1186
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,766
Lee Bishop: treating our employees well.

1187
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,243
Lee Bishop: We're getting four or five or six people

1188
00:40:58,283 --> 00:41:00,786
Lee Bishop: from the same household working for us and

1189
00:41:00,826 --> 00:41:02,549
Lee Bishop: it just it really makes everything a lot

1190
00:41:02,589 --> 00:41:04,191
Lee Bishop: easier, because they also hold them each

1191
00:41:04,231 --> 00:41:06,254
Lee Bishop: other accountable when they're not doing

1192
00:41:06,294 --> 00:41:08,521
Lee Bishop: something right and whatever building and

1193
00:41:08,662 --> 00:41:09,988
Lee Bishop: that's the thing too, is that when you,

1194
00:41:10,049 --> 00:41:11,998
Lee Bishop: when you get a family working for you, you

1195
00:41:12,018 --> 00:41:13,502
Lee Bishop: know, we have several of these families

1196
00:41:13,522 --> 00:41:16,288
Lee Bishop: that, like this, they care about the

1197
00:41:16,328 --> 00:41:18,894
Lee Bishop: business as much as we do you know they

1198
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,347
Lee Bishop: they, they, they really consider it their

1199
00:41:22,528 --> 00:41:26,184
Lee Bishop: own as much as we do, and when you can have

1200
00:41:26,264 --> 00:41:29,070
Lee Bishop: that in an employee, it's special.

1201
00:41:31,842 --> 00:41:34,270
Mark Haney: So your wives are both in the business.

1202
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:38,150
Mark Haney: Your mom and dad were both in the business.

1203
00:41:38,642 --> 00:41:43,165
Mark Haney: I mean, I couldn't work with my wife no way.

1204
00:41:44,662 --> 00:41:47,667
Mark Haney: We worked together great at home, but you

1205
00:41:47,707 --> 00:41:49,310
Mark Haney: know 40 years and we never.

1206
00:41:49,490 --> 00:41:50,812
Mark Haney: Well, we started working together in the

1207
00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:53,344
Mark Haney: video stores back in the day, but you know

1208
00:41:53,365 --> 00:41:55,223
Mark Haney: she worked in accounting, I was more like a

1209
00:41:55,484 --> 00:41:58,867
Mark Haney: customer facing, so we didn't really work

1210
00:41:59,028 --> 00:41:59,590
Mark Haney: together.

1211
00:41:59,981 --> 00:42:01,828
Mark Haney: I don't know how you guys do that.

1212
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,231
Wayne Bishop: You know it's not for everybody uh my wife

1213
00:42:06,271 --> 00:42:08,405
Wayne Bishop: and I were doing great until you know.

1214
00:42:08,445 --> 00:42:10,169
Wayne Bishop: We just got done remote, doing a huge

1215
00:42:10,229 --> 00:42:12,603
Wayne Bishop: remodel on a house, and that almost well,

1216
00:42:12,763 --> 00:42:13,445
Wayne Bishop: that was almost.

1217
00:42:13,465 --> 00:42:14,789
Mark Haney: Did you keep living in the house during the

1218
00:42:14,809 --> 00:42:15,310
Mark Haney: remodel?

1219
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:17,504
Wayne Bishop: fortunately we didn't have to do that, but

1220
00:42:17,564 --> 00:42:19,328
Wayne Bishop: but yeah, that was, that was tougher than

1221
00:42:19,348 --> 00:42:20,752
Wayne Bishop: working together on the farm.

1222
00:42:20,812 --> 00:42:23,310
Wayne Bishop: But I'm not sure what makes it how it works

1223
00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:23,752
Wayne Bishop: that well.

1224
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,483
Wayne Bishop: We just maybe we chose good women.

1225
00:42:25,784 --> 00:42:29,071
Wayne Bishop: Yeah, I think well between you know,

1226
00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:29,531
Wayne Bishop: between.

1227
00:42:29,812 --> 00:42:31,965
Lee Bishop: Well, my wife is a very hard worker, so

1228
00:42:32,005 --> 00:42:33,551
Lee Bishop: it's pretty easy to work with her because

1229
00:42:33,972 --> 00:42:36,060
Lee Bishop: she wants to work, it's it's shutting her

1230
00:42:36,081 --> 00:42:36,943
Lee Bishop: brain off at night.

1231
00:42:37,063 --> 00:42:39,309
Lee Bishop: That's, that's what I struggle with because

1232
00:42:39,329 --> 00:42:41,262
Lee Bishop: she wants to work till till we're laying in

1233
00:42:41,322 --> 00:42:41,522
Lee Bishop: bed.

1234
00:42:41,562 --> 00:42:42,704
Lee Bishop: I'm like, hey, I'm going to sleep now.

1235
00:42:43,986 --> 00:42:47,832
Lee Bishop: But I think what drives us is we all have

1236
00:42:47,872 --> 00:42:49,955
Lee Bishop: the same passion for the business to grow

1237
00:42:51,182 --> 00:42:53,247
Lee Bishop: me and my brother my dad and my wife and my

1238
00:42:53,307 --> 00:42:53,568
Lee Bishop: mom.

1239
00:42:53,688 --> 00:42:56,313
Lee Bishop: We all want success, we all want it to grow.

1240
00:42:57,121 --> 00:42:59,043
Lee Bishop: So that's really, I think, if we all have

1241
00:42:59,083 --> 00:43:01,406
Lee Bishop: that at the root of ourselves, that's, uh,

1242
00:43:02,227 --> 00:43:04,710
Lee Bishop: that's all you need really Is our business

1243
00:43:04,811 --> 00:43:06,893
Lee Bishop: and there are others like this too, but

1244
00:43:08,075 --> 00:43:09,580
Lee Bishop: there's a lot of businesses where you just

1245
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:11,665
Lee Bishop: don't get the gratification that you, that

1246
00:43:11,725 --> 00:43:12,166
Lee Bishop: we get.

1247
00:43:12,647 --> 00:43:15,713
Wayne Bishop: You know we're we're so lucky that if

1248
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,324
Wayne Bishop: you're in your office and you're a little

1249
00:43:17,364 --> 00:43:19,430
Wayne Bishop: grumpy and not feeling it, you can walk

1250
00:43:19,530 --> 00:43:21,244
Wayne Bishop: outside and see a lot of happy families.

1251
00:43:22,087 --> 00:43:22,710
Wayne Bishop: Oh, yeah, yeah.

1252
00:43:23,031 --> 00:43:25,721
Wayne Bishop: And when you see that and a lot of times

1253
00:43:25,781 --> 00:43:28,047
Wayne Bishop: they'll, uh, they'll recognize us and, you

1254
00:43:28,067 --> 00:43:30,052
Wayne Bishop: know, want to talk and just tell us hey, we

1255
00:43:30,092 --> 00:43:31,042
Wayne Bishop: just love coming here.

1256
00:43:31,162 --> 00:43:34,089
Wayne Bishop: Thank you for doing this, um it.

1257
00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:37,858
Wayne Bishop: You know that that can smooth over the

1258
00:43:37,899 --> 00:43:39,062
Wayne Bishop: rough patches real easy.

1259
00:43:39,403 --> 00:43:41,992
Mark Haney: Yeah you know I had talked to you, uh, I

1260
00:43:42,012 --> 00:43:43,798
Mark Haney: think before the show, about, like, we have

1261
00:43:43,818 --> 00:43:46,464
Mark Haney: these 74 acres out in lumas it's like six

1262
00:43:46,504 --> 00:43:49,330
Mark Haney: minutes from here and on horseshoe, right

1263
00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:53,486
Mark Haney: off horseshoe bar, and there's 31 acres.

1264
00:43:53,566 --> 00:43:57,054
Mark Haney: That would be ideal for either developing

1265
00:43:57,095 --> 00:44:00,522
Mark Haney: new houses, you know, like custom homes, or

1266
00:44:00,702 --> 00:44:04,710
Mark Haney: something like, uh, a pumpkin farm,

1267
00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:06,874
Mark Haney: something, you know, christmas tree stuff

1268
00:44:07,861 --> 00:44:09,827
Mark Haney: and my family gets excited about these

1269
00:44:09,847 --> 00:44:10,870
Mark Haney: kinds of ideas because they're kind of

1270
00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:11,572
Mark Haney: entrepreneurial.

1271
00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:15,811
Mark Haney: And then you know it's like what do you

1272
00:44:15,871 --> 00:44:16,533
Mark Haney: wish for?

1273
00:44:16,995 --> 00:44:17,296
Mark Haney: Be careful.

1274
00:44:17,316 --> 00:44:19,764
Mark Haney: What you wish for my mentality was, yeah,

1275
00:44:19,785 --> 00:44:21,170
Mark Haney: it would be cool to go out there and see

1276
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:23,740
Mark Haney: the kids, or if you had your buddies out

1277
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,404
Mark Haney: there drinking some hard cider, let's go,

1278
00:44:25,725 --> 00:44:26,467
Mark Haney: let's go hang out.

1279
00:44:26,527 --> 00:44:31,059
Mark Haney: But, um, I, I can only imagine what goes

1280
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,566
Mark Haney: into doing, you know, built, starting it

1281
00:44:33,606 --> 00:44:35,571
Mark Haney: from scratch, and so I've always thought,

1282
00:44:35,611 --> 00:44:37,846
Mark Haney: well, what if you could partner with

1283
00:44:37,886 --> 00:44:40,115
Mark Haney: somebody to put that experience together

1284
00:44:40,135 --> 00:44:41,883
Mark Haney: and maybe you could contribute, however you,

1285
00:44:42,447 --> 00:44:44,181
Mark Haney: you know, were able to, but somebody else

1286
00:44:44,221 --> 00:44:45,588
Mark Haney: is sort of running the operations.

1287
00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:46,773
Mark Haney: Your thoughts on that?

1288
00:44:46,814 --> 00:44:48,521
Mark Haney: Have you thought about expanding somewhere

1289
00:44:48,541 --> 00:44:49,604
Mark Haney: else, not necessarily my place?

1290
00:44:49,805 --> 00:44:52,091
Lee Bishop: Well, it's not a hard no on your place.

1291
00:44:54,145 --> 00:44:55,548
Mark Haney: Yeah, okay, it's always a discussion.

1292
00:44:55,628 --> 00:44:57,272
Mark Haney: Okay, can we head over there, right?

1293
00:44:57,292 --> 00:44:57,413
Wayne Bishop: now.

1294
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:59,446
Mark Haney: Yeah, let's go over there so it's the

1295
00:44:59,526 --> 00:45:01,652
Mark Haney: perfect location, but I did drive down

1296
00:45:01,672 --> 00:45:02,775
Mark Haney: Horseshoe Bar the other day and I saw

1297
00:45:02,836 --> 00:45:04,926
Mark Haney: another place that was doing something

1298
00:45:05,007 --> 00:45:06,340
Mark Haney: similar to that, so it would be smaller

1299
00:45:06,461 --> 00:45:08,451
Mark Haney: than ours would be, though ours would be

1300
00:45:08,916 --> 00:45:09,220
Mark Haney: special.

1301
00:45:10,203 --> 00:45:11,547
Mark Haney: I'm not the thirstiest guy we've been along,

1302
00:45:11,587 --> 00:45:15,326
Mark Haney: so but anyway, yeah, it just seems like

1303
00:45:15,386 --> 00:45:16,849
Mark Haney: such a cool idea, especially when I have a

1304
00:45:16,869 --> 00:45:18,260
Mark Haney: bunch of grandkids that could put them to

1305
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:18,521
Mark Haney: work.

1306
00:45:18,962 --> 00:45:19,383
Lee Bishop: Yeah.

1307
00:45:19,583 --> 00:45:22,690
Lee Bishop: I think, you know, you always got to stay

1308
00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:25,222
Lee Bishop: open to business opportunities and if the

1309
00:45:25,363 --> 00:45:26,888
Lee Bishop: right one were to hit us, you got to take

1310
00:45:26,928 --> 00:45:27,290
Lee Bishop: advantage.

1311
00:45:27,982 --> 00:45:30,761
Lee Bishop: And I think that's the mentality we haven't

1312
00:45:30,901 --> 00:45:33,605
Lee Bishop: had, that, at least in a while.

1313
00:45:34,046 --> 00:45:35,809
Lee Bishop: The right opportunity come up to where

1314
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:38,473
Lee Bishop: we're like let's get that farm and let's,

1315
00:45:38,713 --> 00:45:40,175
Lee Bishop: you know, make another Bishop's Pumpkin

1316
00:45:40,215 --> 00:45:40,435
Lee Bishop: Farm.

1317
00:45:42,161 --> 00:45:43,848
Lee Bishop: But you know, I think we're always open to

1318
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:44,020
Lee Bishop: that.

1319
00:45:44,041 --> 00:45:45,084
Mark Haney: We're always open to ideas.

1320
00:45:45,305 --> 00:45:46,529
Mark Haney: Well, maybe if you guys have time right

1321
00:45:46,549 --> 00:45:48,063
Mark Haney: after the show we'll drive over there, but

1322
00:45:48,103 --> 00:45:49,648
Mark Haney: if not, I you know, no pressure.

1323
00:45:49,828 --> 00:45:50,891
Lee Bishop: It's just a podcast.

1324
00:45:53,203 --> 00:45:54,546
Mark Haney: You can paint me a picture of what it might

1325
00:45:54,586 --> 00:45:57,272
Mark Haney: look like or something, uh, what the pros

1326
00:45:57,292 --> 00:45:57,893
Mark Haney: and cons are.

1327
00:45:57,993 --> 00:46:01,595
Mark Haney: So, um, anyway, uh, what did I not ask you?

1328
00:46:01,695 --> 00:46:02,896
Mark Haney: Like, I want to make sure you have a chance

1329
00:46:02,916 --> 00:46:04,837
Mark Haney: to really tell your story the way that you

1330
00:46:04,917 --> 00:46:06,618
Mark Haney: want it to to be told.

1331
00:46:08,481 --> 00:46:11,930
Wayne Bishop: You know, um, we, we belong to a couple of

1332
00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:15,500
Wayne Bishop: organizations, and, and so we, uh, of what

1333
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,866
Wayne Bishop: I call the funny farmers in in the country.

1334
00:46:17,906 --> 00:46:20,111
Wayne Bishop: You know that that do similar things to

1335
00:46:20,151 --> 00:46:21,916
Wayne Bishop: what we do, and so we visited a lot of

1336
00:46:21,972 --> 00:46:22,252
Wayne Bishop: farms.

1337
00:46:22,308 --> 00:46:23,605
Wayne Bishop: We talked to a lot of people that do

1338
00:46:23,625 --> 00:46:25,690
Wayne Bishop: similar things to what we do, and so we

1339
00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:26,231
Wayne Bishop: visited a lot of farms.

1340
00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:27,012
Wayne Bishop: We talked to a lot of people.

1341
00:46:27,052 --> 00:46:27,874
Wayne Bishop: The thing that I think we do better than

1342
00:46:27,894 --> 00:46:30,880
Wayne Bishop: all of them is is the food, and, you know,

1343
00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:35,632
Wayne Bishop: started from, uh, my mom's bakery, and we

1344
00:46:35,652 --> 00:46:38,198
Wayne Bishop: make a pumpkin pie from, from an heirloom

1345
00:46:38,218 --> 00:46:42,427
Wayne Bishop: variety pumpkin that we grow, and, um, I

1346
00:46:42,507 --> 00:46:44,551
Wayne Bishop: actually take credit for saving that

1347
00:46:44,631 --> 00:46:45,293
Wayne Bishop: pumpkin from.

1348
00:46:45,694 --> 00:46:46,882
Wayne Bishop: You know, there was a time where it was

1349
00:46:46,902 --> 00:46:48,627
Wayne Bishop: really hard to get seed because nobody was

1350
00:46:48,827 --> 00:46:49,769
Wayne Bishop: growing it anymore.

1351
00:46:50,631 --> 00:46:55,568
Wayne Bishop: And uh, there there are a bunch of things

1352
00:46:55,608 --> 00:46:57,532
Wayne Bishop: we do like that and we make.

1353
00:46:57,712 --> 00:46:59,054
Wayne Bishop: We make food from scratch.

1354
00:46:59,741 --> 00:47:01,946
Wayne Bishop: We make caramel for our caramel apples, we

1355
00:47:02,006 --> 00:47:05,073
Wayne Bishop: press apples into cider and now we ferment

1356
00:47:05,113 --> 00:47:09,206
Wayne Bishop: it to hard cider and and, um, we, we, we go

1357
00:47:09,286 --> 00:47:12,971
Wayne Bishop: to the extra work to to make the food good

1358
00:47:13,572 --> 00:47:18,246
Wayne Bishop: and and, um, I don't know, I'm just I'm

1359
00:47:18,286 --> 00:47:19,048
Wayne Bishop: kind of a food guy.

1360
00:47:19,068 --> 00:47:21,213
Wayne Bishop: When I travel, I always remember what I ate,

1361
00:47:21,741 --> 00:47:24,170
Wayne Bishop: especially if it was good yeah and and I

1362
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:26,505
Wayne Bishop: associate that with with my memories, like

1363
00:47:26,545 --> 00:47:26,826
Wayne Bishop: you know.

1364
00:47:26,866 --> 00:47:28,530
Wayne Bishop: Oh yeah, we visited this um.

1365
00:47:29,031 --> 00:47:31,265
Wayne Bishop: You know, I was in nuremberg, germany, and

1366
00:47:31,346 --> 00:47:33,794
Wayne Bishop: I I had the most awesome german sausage I

1367
00:47:33,835 --> 00:47:35,761
Wayne Bishop: ever and I and I started eating mustard.

1368
00:47:35,801 --> 00:47:37,406
Wayne Bishop: I never ate mustard before in my life, but

1369
00:47:37,446 --> 00:47:39,011
Wayne Bishop: I ate it the way the germans do, and now I

1370
00:47:39,051 --> 00:47:42,267
Wayne Bishop: like mustard you know, it's, it's, uh.

1371
00:47:43,069 --> 00:47:47,087
Wayne Bishop: So to me, that's the thing that has been

1372
00:47:47,127 --> 00:47:48,812
Wayne Bishop: the predominant driver for our growth.

1373
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,967
Wayne Bishop: You know, and now we have these rides, we

1374
00:47:52,007 --> 00:47:53,140
Wayne Bishop: have a full day's experience.

1375
00:47:53,321 --> 00:47:55,321
Wayne Bishop: If you want to bring your family out, I

1376
00:47:55,361 --> 00:47:56,967
Wayne Bishop: still think it's the food that brings

1377
00:47:57,007 --> 00:47:57,489
Wayne Bishop: people out.

1378
00:47:57,609 --> 00:47:57,970
Wayne Bishop: Interesting.

1379
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,685
Mark Haney: Is it you got to?

1380
00:47:59,905 --> 00:48:02,041
Mark Haney: I know, I believe you pay to park, you pay

1381
00:48:02,061 --> 00:48:03,705
Mark Haney: to get in and then you can buy the stuff.

1382
00:48:03,725 --> 00:48:05,589
Mark Haney: How does what's the mechanics in terms of

1383
00:48:06,110 --> 00:48:06,330
Mark Haney: no, I.

1384
00:48:06,551 --> 00:48:06,972
Lee Bishop: I think that's.

1385
00:48:07,012 --> 00:48:08,521
Lee Bishop: Another thing that makes us really unique

1386
00:48:08,902 --> 00:48:10,966
Lee Bishop: is we're open 65.

1387
00:48:10,986 --> 00:48:13,731
Lee Bishop: I'm pushing 70 days a year and we charge

1388
00:48:13,791 --> 00:48:16,043
Lee Bishop: parking 12 days a year, just october,

1389
00:48:16,164 --> 00:48:17,651
Lee Bishop: friday, saturdays and sundays, and the rest

1390
00:48:17,671 --> 00:48:20,082
Lee Bishop: of the year we're admission free okay you

1391
00:48:20,102 --> 00:48:21,686
Lee Bishop: can walk in and choose your own adventure.

1392
00:48:21,706 --> 00:48:23,190
Lee Bishop: If you just want to come in and have dinner

1393
00:48:23,230 --> 00:48:25,175
Lee Bishop: and a hard cider, that is totally okay.

1394
00:48:25,255 --> 00:48:27,039
Lee Bishop: Wow, if you want to come and just ride the

1395
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:28,443
Lee Bishop: rides and not buy anything else, that is

1396
00:48:28,523 --> 00:48:29,145
Lee Bishop: totally okay.

1397
00:48:29,847 --> 00:48:31,711
Mark Haney: So it could be a real, affordable night out

1398
00:48:31,731 --> 00:48:33,464
Mark Haney: for a family that's on a real budget.

1399
00:48:33,724 --> 00:48:35,649
Wayne Bishop: You can bring your own picnic, if you want

1400
00:48:35,669 --> 00:48:35,789
Wayne Bishop: to.

1401
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:38,142
Lee Bishop: Wow, there's not a lot of places in the

1402
00:48:38,202 --> 00:48:40,045
Lee Bishop: world that do that still.

1403
00:48:40,065 --> 00:48:40,666
Wayne Bishop: That's really special.

1404
00:48:40,706 --> 00:48:42,549
Wayne Bishop: They're charging you $30 to get in the game.

1405
00:48:42,970 --> 00:48:45,234
Lee Bishop: Oh yeah, santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk is like

1406
00:48:45,254 --> 00:48:49,107
Lee Bishop: that too, but I think that really makes us

1407
00:48:49,168 --> 00:48:50,171
Lee Bishop: different in our industry.

1408
00:48:51,401 --> 00:48:53,446
Lee Bishop: I don't care if you spend $5 with us or

1409
00:48:53,466 --> 00:48:55,872
Lee Bishop: $100 with us, just come and have a good

1410
00:48:55,912 --> 00:48:56,073
Lee Bishop: night.

1411
00:48:57,623 --> 00:48:58,886
Lee Bishop: That's what's important, I think, to us as

1412
00:48:58,927 --> 00:48:59,288
Lee Bishop: a family.

1413
00:48:59,950 --> 00:49:00,531
Mark Haney: That's really cool.

1414
00:49:00,940 --> 00:49:02,282
Mark Haney: Okay, anything else I didn't ask you.

1415
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Mark Haney: I had to let your dad uh chime in for his

1416
00:49:05,107 --> 00:49:08,112
Mark Haney: uh, his thoughts on the uh, on the food no,

1417
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Mark Haney: I don't, I don't think so.

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Lee Bishop: I think we had a lot of, uh, good stuff

1419
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Lee Bishop: today.

1420
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Mark Haney: Well, congratulations and thank you for

1421
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Mark Haney: coming on the show.

1422
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Mark Haney: Thank you for making so many families happy,

1423
00:49:16,845 --> 00:49:19,210
Mark Haney: employing people and getting them their

1424
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:21,402
Mark Haney: christmas money and, uh, maybe for a lot of

1425
00:49:21,422 --> 00:49:23,849
Mark Haney: people, their first job those experiences

1426
00:49:23,889 --> 00:49:27,063
Mark Haney: that we get in our early years whether it

1427
00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:29,595
Mark Haney: be going to the pumpkin farm and grabbing a

1428
00:49:29,615 --> 00:49:32,686
Mark Haney: pumpkin or a pumpkin pie or just our first

1429
00:49:32,746 --> 00:49:34,966
Mark Haney: jobs we want to be in a wholesome place

1430
00:49:35,061 --> 00:49:36,838
Mark Haney: like what you guys offer, so thank you very

1431
00:49:36,879 --> 00:49:36,980
Mark Haney: much.

1432
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Mark Haney: Well, thank you, mark, for having us.

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Lee Bishop: We appreciate it, you bet.