Mark Haney : And now from the marquee media studio
Mark Haney : inside Mark Tank, it's the Mark Haney Show.
Mark Haney : Yes, this is the Mark Haney Show on a
Mark Haney : mission to ignite the entrepreneurial
Mark Haney : revolution right here in the hometown.
Mark Haney : We love, and we do that by building the
Mark Haney : Backyard Advantage, the most connected
Mark Haney : community in the world for local
Mark Haney : entrepreneurs.
Mark Haney : So I like to bring on real world
Mark Haney : entrepreneurs to share their story, to
Mark Haney : inspire you, to educate you, get you
Mark Haney : connected to the life of an entrepreneur.
Mark Haney : And I have some of my favorite people in
Mark Haney : the house tonight.
Mark Haney : I have Andrea Spacek and Heather Harmon.
Mark Haney : They are the newer owners of East Wind Yoga,
Mark Haney : a place that I go almost every day, pretty
Mark Haney : much every day, a place that I go almost
Mark Haney : every day, pretty much every day, and so I
Mark Haney : see Heather occasionally as a student and I
Mark Haney : see Andrea a lot as my mentor, I suppose my
Mark Haney : silent mentor, your official mentor of mine.
Mark Haney : But I listen to all the words of wisdom
Mark Haney : associated with like mind, body, spirit,
Mark Haney : working up a good sweat.
Mark Haney : So why don't we start with you?
Mark Haney : Okay, welcome to the show, andrea.
Mark Haney : Give us a little bit of uh, your background,
Mark Haney : and then maybe just a brief story of how
Mark Haney : you and heather uh got together to buy east
Mark Haney : wind yoga yeah, there's not really any
Mark Haney : brief stories with me, but I'll try to.
Mark Haney: I'll try to, I'll try to make it brief give
Mark Haney: Heather a chance to have some more time,
Mark Haney: it's more like an
Mark Haney : odd scene.
Mark Haney : Just interrupt her.
Andrea Spacek: If she gets long-winded, we don't get out
Andrea Spacek: long, yeah, yeah yeah, so, thank you, it's
Andrea Spacek: so, it's so wonderful to be here.
Andrea Spacek: It's it's wonderful when you have those
Andrea Spacek: mutually uh, beneficial and um, symbiotic
Andrea Spacek: relationships.
Andrea Spacek: I feel like I look to you for so much
Andrea Spacek: wisdom and so much words of wisdom over the
Andrea Spacek: years and the last couple years being your
Andrea Spacek: teacher.
Andrea Spacek: I'm always the student to my students too,
Andrea Spacek: though it's a two-way street, so I'm always
Andrea Spacek: learning from all of you.
Andrea Spacek: And so, yeah, my journey through yoga it
Andrea Spacek: really started really through personal
Andrea Spacek: training and fitness, and it was me coming
Andrea Spacek: back into my body that in my, it was really
Andrea Spacek: my mid-20s that had me realize, wow, I
Andrea Spacek: haven't really been here like fully, I
Andrea Spacek: haven't fully been owning my life, and that
Andrea Spacek: turned all sorts of well it led to a lot of
Andrea Spacek: changes.
Andrea Spacek: I'll just say that in my life at the time.
Andrea Spacek: And then it was through that group that I
Andrea Spacek: was working out with a group of people and
Andrea Spacek: they directed me to.
Andrea Spacek: They said, you know, I had gone to some
Andrea Spacek: yoga classes over the years and in college
Andrea Spacek: and it's all that.
Andrea Spacek: I had never been going but I wasn't really
Andrea Spacek: on that path.
Andrea Spacek: So much Um.
Andrea Spacek: And they said, you know, you would be just
Andrea Spacek: a natural teacher because I was already
Andrea Spacek: doing some personal training and doing some
Andrea Spacek: group fitness.
Andrea Spacek: And they knew I loved yoga.
Andrea Spacek: And so they said there's a training coming
Andrea Spacek: up and everything led to the next Stars
Andrea Spacek: Aligned and that began a deeper commitment
Andrea Spacek: for me and an instant love affair with the
Andrea Spacek: practice.
Andrea Spacek: And I knew from my first teacher training.
Andrea Spacek: I remember saying to first teacher training
Andrea Spacek: I remember saying to my teacher I just want
Andrea Spacek: to do teacher trainings forever.
Andrea Spacek: I love this space because it's exponential
Andrea Spacek: growth, it's opening your heart, it's
Andrea Spacek: opening your mind and your life changes.
Andrea Spacek: So that planted a seed that lasted, for
Andrea Spacek: it's been about 16 years since that first
Andrea Spacek: training and that was on the East Coast.
Andrea Spacek: Life pulled me out here.
Andrea Spacek: Another story.
Mark Haney : By the way, one of the things I love about
Mark Haney : you as much as anything is your laugh.
Mark Haney : Usually I'm not making you laugh, but I
Mark Haney : hear other people.
Mark Haney : I don't know if you're making yourself
Mark Haney : laugh or other people make you laugh, but I
Mark Haney : hear you laughing.
Mark Haney : I'm trying to focus on, like when I get
Mark Haney : there early.
Mark Haney : I'm like Andrew, is it a great mood?
Mark Haney : Always, you always are, but you have this
Mark Haney : infectious laugh, so I congratulate you.
Mark Haney : I don't know if that's you know that's just
Mark Haney : probably something you were born with.
Mark Haney : That's you know that's just probably
Mark Haney : something you were born with.
Andrea Spacek: That's you know, innate I suppose yeah, you
Andrea Spacek: either love it or you hate it.
Andrea Spacek: I say because it's loud.
Andrea Spacek: If you get really loud, people can hear me
Andrea Spacek: all the way across the street sometimes I
Andrea Spacek: think, people love it.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, so it's.
Andrea Spacek: It is a trademark, and it's one of the
Andrea Spacek: things that I resonated with.
Andrea Spacek: Particularly Eastwind about was this
Andrea Spacek: intense, powerful practice that I really
Andrea Spacek: resonated with that, but also a
Andrea Spacek: lightheartedness and a silliness that is
Andrea Spacek: like don't take yourself too seriously,
Andrea Spacek: which is which is how I like to live.
Andrea Spacek: I believe in that because I can tend
Andrea Spacek: towards more serious very easily.
Andrea Spacek: Especially when you're focusing and you're
Andrea Spacek: doing, you know, yoga and meditating, it
Andrea Spacek: can get very more straight-faced and I love
Andrea Spacek: breaking people out of that.
Andrea Spacek: It's like it's just yo, it's just yoga, you
Andrea Spacek: know, and so I always resonated with the
Andrea Spacek: culture there, and when I moved to Auburn
Andrea Spacek: in 2012, it was right down the road so I
Andrea Spacek: could just walk to the studio, and I
Andrea Spacek: remember the first class there.
Andrea Spacek: I was just blown away by what was.
Andrea Spacek: I was like do you understand what's going
Andrea Spacek: on in there?
Andrea Spacek: I said this to Ryan Bailey, who was the
Andrea Spacek: teacher of that class, and I said I've been
Andrea Spacek: looking for this, like I had been going to
Andrea Spacek: many, many classes on the east coast, but
Andrea Spacek: there wasn't anything quite like what.
Andrea Spacek: I had been going to many, many classes on
Andrea Spacek: the East Coast, but there wasn't anything
Andrea Spacek: quite like what I had experienced.
Andrea Spacek: And it was one of those days he was having
Andrea Spacek: a day where he was just gazing out the
Andrea Spacek: window like what am I doing with my life?
Andrea Spacek: And he said you know, I really need to hear
Andrea Spacek: that.
Andrea Spacek: And so it was.
Andrea Spacek: That was the beginning of my relationship
Andrea Spacek: with East Wind.
Andrea Spacek: I said this is my place and that was 2012.
Andrea Spacek: So it's been you, you know, a little while,
Andrea Spacek: but I left and came back and I went, I
Andrea Spacek: taught at different studios and I just it
Andrea Spacek: always brought me back, it always felt like
Andrea Spacek: home.
Mark Haney : So what would you?
Mark Haney : You got this business partner Heather yeah,
Mark Haney : what how?
Mark Haney : Would you describe thank god?
Mark Haney : How would you describe her Thank God?
Mark Haney : How would you describe her and what
Mark Haney : attracted you to having to this match that
Mark Haney : you guys have created?
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, so we were really brought together
Andrea Spacek: and I'm going to let Heather tell that
Andrea Spacek: story, okay, because in a way she led that.
Andrea Spacek: I think in a big way she led that coming
Andrea Spacek: together and she tells better stories than
Andrea Spacek: I do.
Mark Haney : Right, heather, you're up.
Mark Haney : Heather has went from high tech to no tech,
Mark Haney : or I'll call it low tech.
Mark Haney : I actually have a yoga tech idea that I'll
Mark Haney : throw at you if there's time, so yeah, but
Mark Haney : yeah, let's get your background.
Heather Harmon: Yeah, oh, my background, or the story.
Mark Haney : Mark Give me a brief background.
Mark Haney : Brief background, then the story.
Heather Harmon: Brief background Startup entrepreneur
Heather Harmon: multiple times Recently here in Sacramento,
Heather Harmon: originated a startup here and sold that to
Heather Harmon: a public company, and then took a little
Heather Harmon: bit of time on a journey to figure out what
Heather Harmon: I wanna do next.
Heather Harmon: So that's led through angel investing,
Heather Harmon: venture capital advising, startup advising
Heather Harmon: and travel.
Heather Harmon: Some really amazing travel has happened too,
Heather Harmon: and yoga teacher training happened in that
Heather Harmon: time too.
Heather Harmon: That had been on my bucket list for a long
Heather Harmon: time, so I finally had the space to do it
Heather Harmon: and I'm really glad that I did, and Andrea
Heather Harmon: was the extraordinary teacher of that
Heather Harmon: adventure.
Heather Harmon: So yeah, that's a little bit of my
Heather Harmon: background.
Mark Haney : And then you saw opportunity.
Mark Haney : You're an entrepreneur, you're an investor,
Mark Haney : and you saw opportunity.
Mark Haney : What did you see?
Heather Harmon: You mean at Eastwind.
Heather Harmon: I didn't.
Heather Harmon: I mean I adore Eastwind and what I love
Heather Harmon: about Eastwind is not seeing it from the
Heather Harmon: business perspective, which we could talk
Heather Harmon: about.
Heather Harmon: It's the community and how special it is.
Heather Harmon: And so, just like you said and just like
Heather Harmon: Andrea said, I've traveled all over the
Heather Harmon: world and taken yoga in and out of dozens
Heather Harmon: of studios and there is not one that has
Heather Harmon: what Eastwind has.
Heather Harmon: And we hear that over and over again from
Heather Harmon: our students.
Heather Harmon: We hear them come in the doors as regulars
Heather Harmon: and say they've gone other places and come
Heather Harmon: back.
Heather Harmon: We've heard them come from around different
Heather Harmon: places, drop in and either leave it on
Heather Harmon: Google or call us and tell us we've never
Heather Harmon: experienced what East Wind has.
Heather Harmon: That, to me, is what I'm so committed and
Heather Harmon: passionate about.
Heather Harmon: And, from the perspective of how Andrea and
Heather Harmon: I ended up in this journey together, it's
Heather Harmon: that the previous owner that you know
Heather Harmon: really well and we do too 19 years of
Heather Harmon: curating this amazing community.
Heather Harmon: He picked us.
Heather Harmon: He said if I'm going to do this, you are
Heather Harmon: the ones that I trust to do it.
Heather Harmon: So we both took that for a walk.
Heather Harmon: But it wouldn't be completely transparent
Heather Harmon: if we didn't tell you that before he came
Heather Harmon: to us and told us that we both felt
Heather Harmon: ourselves being asked to do something
Heather Harmon: together and we didn't know what that was
Heather Harmon: going to look like.
Heather Harmon: So it was a few months later when the
Heather Harmon: request was made and it was a full body,
Heather Harmon: visceral yes, like whether or not I should
Heather Harmon: do this, whether or not this makes sense on
Heather Harmon: paper, whether or not all the things it was
Heather Harmon: yeah, this is what I'm supposed to do.
Mark Haney : Yeah, interesting.
Mark Haney : I uh I think I had talked to Andrea a few
Mark Haney : times about her wanting to do something,
Mark Haney : and I might have even mentioned by the yoga
Mark Haney : studio as an idea, because I remember you
Mark Haney : thinking I want more in my life one of our
Mark Haney : conversations.
Mark Haney : But you got it.
Mark Haney : You got more, which is really interesting
Mark Haney : In terms of your experience with Eastwind
Mark Haney : in mind.
Mark Haney : It's probably has a lot of similarities,
Mark Haney : except for one thing I haven't really been
Mark Haney : any other yoga studios.
Mark Haney : The only time I've been to a yoga studio
Mark Haney : was, uh, gone to Cabo, and they've got like
Mark Haney : yoga on the beach and it is completely
Mark Haney : different.
Mark Haney : It's like, right, kindergarten yoga, you
Mark Haney : guys are teaching uh, you know, advanced
Mark Haney : stuff, that is, and the people in there are
Mark Haney : well.
Mark Haney : There's beginners, of course, but there's
Mark Haney : people that are phenomenal in terms of
Mark Haney : athletic ability and knowing what it's all
Mark Haney : about, with tons of experience.
Mark Haney : So it's a really nice community and a wide
Mark Haney : ranging community, and so that's why I
Mark Haney : started.
Mark Haney : But the reason I started was, as I was
Mark Haney : talking earlier, crossfit was closed
Mark Haney : because of COVID and Eastwind was open.
Mark Haney : I'm like people are in open sweating during,
Mark Haney : uh, during this time when everybody's
Mark Haney : paranoid about, uh, you know, health and
Mark Haney : stuff, and I was like I'm going, you know,
Mark Haney : and then people sweating all over me.
Mark Haney : During COVID we tried to keep six inches
Mark Haney : apart, but that's why I was.
Mark Haney : I respected the owner, scott, so much for
Mark Haney : having the courage to understand how
Mark Haney : healthy yoga is for all of us.
Mark Haney : I didn't really know at the time, but I
Mark Haney : know it now that it really is good for you,
Mark Haney : um, not just a good workout, but it's good
Mark Haney : for your, your mind, body, spirit, and it's
Mark Haney : um.
Mark Haney : So I'm indebted for sure to to what's
Mark Haney : happened for me and Eastwind and better
Mark Haney : understanding stuff.
Mark Haney : I walked out of Scott asked me to give
Mark Haney : words of wisdom the other day.
Mark Haney : Scott's still teaching classes over there
Mark Haney : and I was like I was wearing my everything
Mark Haney : is figureoutable shirt, I was wearing a
Mark Haney : shirt like this, and so he's like Mark, I
Mark Haney : need words of wisdom and he never calls on
Mark Haney : me for that stuff.
Mark Haney : But I had gone into the bathroom real quick
Mark Haney : and came in slightly late for class, which
Mark Haney : I never do.
Mark Haney : I'm usually an early guy for class, but the
Mark Haney : bathroom was filled up and I needed to make
Mark Haney : sure I didn't you know, old man doesn't
Mark Haney : have to, you know wet his pants during the
Mark Haney : class, and so I walk in like 30 seconds
Mark Haney : late words of wisdom and I said everything
Mark Haney : is figureoutable.
Mark Haney : So my question to both of you is do you
Mark Haney : agree with that?
Mark Haney : Is everything figureoutable?
Andrea Spacek: A hundred percent.
Mark Haney : Do you agree with that too, Heather?
Andrea Spacek: I do, you do.
Mark Haney : Yeah, yeah.
Mark Haney : I feel like with enough imagination, enough
Mark Haney : inspired action and enough
Mark Haney : stick-to-itiveness, things will come
Mark Haney : together.
Mark Haney : You'll stumble your way into achieving what
Mark Haney : you want, or accomplishing what you want,
Mark Haney : or seeing the vision that you want come
Mark Haney : true.
Mark Haney : Um, so, with that, you've started this.
Mark Haney : What's the vision for the studio?
Mark Haney : What do you see getting excited about where
Mark Haney : you're going?
Mark Haney : I love where we're at, but is there
Mark Haney : something different brewing, imaginative,
Mark Haney : and I'll share with you my idea I love
Mark Haney : ideas, I am.
Andrea Spacek: I always say to students this is really
Andrea Spacek: your studio and so if you want to see
Andrea Spacek: something, advocate for it.
Andrea Spacek: If you want something to happen that's not
Andrea Spacek: happening, it's up to you guys, because
Andrea Spacek: we're servants.
Andrea Spacek: I I look at myself as both kind of like a
Andrea Spacek: mother figure to the studio to take care of
Andrea Spacek: it, to tend to it, to listen to what it
Andrea Spacek: needs, to provide that the best I can.
Andrea Spacek: And I'm in a relationship where it has its
Andrea Spacek: own life it really does, especially coming
Andrea Spacek: into it after 19 years.
Andrea Spacek: So it has its own life and it's like how,
Andrea Spacek: listening for that, what are you ready for
Andrea Spacek: this next step?
Andrea Spacek: Are you ready for, you know, the evolution
Andrea Spacek: that I might see?
Andrea Spacek: Because it's not about Andrea coming in or
Andrea Spacek: Heather coming in and forcing her will on
Andrea Spacek: it so much.
Andrea Spacek: So that's how I look at it.
Andrea Spacek: And the students, when they speak, I listen
Andrea Spacek: and I, I love, uh, I love to.
Andrea Spacek: I don't always agree.
Andrea Spacek: I'm not going to take everything and be I'm
Andrea Spacek: not a yes person all the time, which is
Andrea Spacek: something I've had to learn.
Andrea Spacek: You know stepping into this role is you
Andrea Spacek: can't make everybody happy.
Andrea Spacek: What you can do is take you know what's
Andrea Spacek: going to serve the needs of the most,
Andrea Spacek: versus, you know, just a couple of people
Andrea Spacek: that are complaining about one thing and
Andrea Spacek: staying true to who we are and what's so
Andrea Spacek: magical about it.
Andrea Spacek: And so some of the vision is starting to
Andrea Spacek: happen, and that was when Heather and I
Andrea Spacek: came together initially, before we even
Andrea Spacek: knew we were going to become the owners.
Andrea Spacek: It was about expanding the branches of this
Andrea Spacek: trunk, this really solid trunk that is the
Andrea Spacek: yoga of east wind, into these different
Andrea Spacek: extensions that are different ways that
Andrea Spacek: people can take their yoga and take it
Andrea Spacek: further in a way.
Andrea Spacek: So going deeper into the power of your
Andrea Spacek: breath, for instance and we've started to
Andrea Spacek: add in we have tonight we're both going to
Andrea Spacek: it as as well actually holotropic breath
Andrea Spacek: work.
Andrea Spacek: Okay, so that's a modality that is its own
Andrea Spacek: thing.
Andrea Spacek: That is taking some of the kapalabhati and
Andrea Spacek: different breath we do in there, but to a
Andrea Spacek: whole other level 40 minutes of breathing
Andrea Spacek: in and out to clear and release long-held
Andrea Spacek: tension and trauma and pain.
Andrea Spacek: So that's one.
Andrea Spacek: We have somatic movement therapy.
Andrea Spacek: That's listening for, it's taking, that
Andrea Spacek: felt sense experience that you can tap into
Andrea Spacek: in yoga, where we're kind of getting out of
Andrea Spacek: our head and more into what am I feeling
Andrea Spacek: and letting that guide you and allowing
Andrea Spacek: that its own kind of focus through somatic.
Andrea Spacek: They call it somatic movement therapy,
Andrea Spacek: somatic experiencing there's lots of
Andrea Spacek: different names, but bringing in a
Andrea Spacek: practitioner who does that and it looks
Andrea Spacek: like, oh, like there's an emotion or a
Andrea Spacek: sensation here and I'm just going to move
Andrea Spacek: with it, I'm going to breathe with it and
Andrea Spacek: see where it takes me and see if it I can
Andrea Spacek: get to more of the root of what's going on
Andrea Spacek: there, because everything that's going on
Andrea Spacek: in the body is a reflection of the mind you
Andrea Spacek: know so we're getting more deeper into that
Andrea Spacek: journey.
Andrea Spacek: And then there's sound healing.
Andrea Spacek: So bringing in different practitioners we
Andrea Spacek: both believe in the power of sound and the
Andrea Spacek: power to crystal bowls, gongs, things like
Andrea Spacek: that, where people come in and they lie
Andrea Spacek: down and they receive this sound, which is
Andrea Spacek: these different frequencies that have been
Andrea Spacek: scientifically proven to break up density
Andrea Spacek: and disease in the body in a way that
Andrea Spacek: accelerates.
Andrea Spacek: Just going to yoga every day, so it's
Andrea Spacek: helping.
Andrea Spacek: Also bringing other people in that might
Andrea Spacek: not be able to do a physical powerful
Andrea Spacek: practice, but they can experience the
Andrea Spacek: community we have here through these other
Andrea Spacek: modalities.
Andrea Spacek: And so that started to happen.
Andrea Spacek: And we seeded that through the 40-day
Andrea Spacek: sadhana, which is sadhana is a sanskrit
Andrea Spacek: word for a spiritual commitment, a practice
Andrea Spacek: that you do for 40 days that can lead to a
Andrea Spacek: powerful shift, and so that was really a
Andrea Spacek: wonderful, successful event that we put
Andrea Spacek: together and we brought in these different
Andrea Spacek: practitioners who are now a part of our
Andrea Spacek: community.
Andrea Spacek: We look at them as like allied
Andrea Spacek: practitioners who are monthly, on a monthly
Andrea Spacek: basis, coming in.
Mark Haney : Yeah, that's so helpful and I have to
Mark Haney : compliment you too as I think about the
Mark Haney : mind piece, because I agree with that and
Mark Haney : you know we all have these voices.
Mark Haney : You do a really good job at the beginning
Mark Haney : of class, scott the other teachers do a
Mark Haney : great job too but you specifically get us
Mark Haney : thinking about ourselves and who we are.
Mark Haney : As we prepare to take our yoga practice to
Mark Haney : the mat for our workout, basically as we
Mark Haney : prepare for the workout, you get your mind
Mark Haney : right and you find a way to, I think, look
Mark Haney : inside our soul at some level, because you
Mark Haney : I don't know like we all have voices inside
Mark Haney : that are telling us, you know, give us
Mark Haney : confidence.
Mark Haney : And then we have others that are giving us
Mark Haney : doubt and a lot of those start, like when
Mark Haney : we're kids.
Mark Haney : We got the little voice, we have the voice
Mark Haney : of our parents in our head and now it's the,
Mark Haney : the media or whatever else is happening out
Mark Haney : there our families.
Mark Haney : But you find a way to get us having the
Mark Haney : right thoughts going so that the right
Mark Haney : voices are helping you through your
Mark Haney : practice.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, yeah, I love that you're experiencing
Andrea Spacek: that and it's it's a lot of.
Andrea Spacek: There's so many, there's so many wonderful
Andrea Spacek: benefits, like you mentioned, that come out
Andrea Spacek: of yoga that it's hard to say it's this or
Andrea Spacek: it's that, but I believe one of the ways
Andrea Spacek: that Heather and I really align is it's
Andrea Spacek: about self-responsibility and and taking
Andrea Spacek: ownership of um and, essentially, your
Andrea Spacek: power back that you're creating your
Andrea Spacek: reality, you're creating your experience
Andrea Spacek: and, yes, we have people come into our
Andrea Spacek: lives and we have stimulus, we have other
Andrea Spacek: things that challenge us, but to really see
Andrea Spacek: it for what it is and it's not happening to
Andrea Spacek: us as a victim, but more for us, so we can
Andrea Spacek: grow and so we can take that hero's journey,
Andrea Spacek: and so helping us to seed out and sort out,
Andrea Spacek: you could say some of the you know the mind
Andrea Spacek: stuff.
Andrea Spacek: That's what yoga was initially designed for
Andrea Spacek: was to clear the fluctuations of the mind
Andrea Spacek: so that you could see the truth of reality,
Andrea Spacek: and so all of this is really about that,
Andrea Spacek: because disease begins in the mind
Andrea Spacek: interesting.
Mark Haney : Okay, so we veered off of the long-term
Mark Haney : vision.
Mark Haney : We talked about what's happening and which
Mark Haney : is a really you.
Mark Haney : You made it very visual for us, but what
Mark Haney : about the vision?
Mark Haney : How do you, when you think about the vision
Mark Haney : for the organization, how do you?
Mark Haney : How do you wrestle with that, heather?
Heather Harmon: I don't wrestle it at all.
Heather Harmon: I'm in service to it.
Heather Harmon: I that if I came to this with the
Heather Harmon: commitment to um serve the community that
Heather Harmon: exists today and expand it.
Heather Harmon: And so I think that's what Andrea and I are
Heather Harmon: so aligned on, is that we know what East
Heather Harmon: Wind does, what it creates, and it's not
Heather Harmon: necessarily something you can franchise,
Heather Harmon: it's.
Heather Harmon: It's something really special that's
Heather Harmon: curated through the diversity that is
Heather Harmon: driving from every factor of the business
Heather Harmon: itself, from our teachers to the types of
Heather Harmon: classes that we teach and offer, to the
Heather Harmon: fact that there's really no one way to do
Heather Harmon: an East Wind class except as a student, to
Heather Harmon: show up and be a part of the community,
Heather Harmon: like that's the consistency that goes on
Heather Harmon: over and over again.
Heather Harmon: So when I think about the vision, it's
Heather Harmon: expanding that, making that more available
Heather Harmon: to more people, to be in more service at an
Heather Harmon: expansive way across our region and you
Heather Harmon: know I won't we are considering a third
Heather Harmon: location that's in the stars.
Heather Harmon: We're waiting for, you know, the right time
Heather Harmon: and place.
Heather Harmon: We're also putting a lot of stabilizing
Heather Harmon: factors underneath the business today so
Heather Harmon: that it can sustain that growth.
Heather Harmon: But that's, you know, like Andrea said,
Heather Harmon: like bringing in all of these other
Heather Harmon: ancillary pieces of the journey and making
Heather Harmon: them offerings that are available to people,
Heather Harmon: that are comfortable and safe for them to
Heather Harmon: experience themselves.
Mark Haney : Well, I know Andrea much better than you,
Mark Haney : but I knew that you were in tech and had a
Mark Haney : lot of success, and so I started thinking
Mark Haney : about oh okay, I just thought this idea
Mark Haney : came up today for this business idea.
Heather Harmon: Oh, I love it.
Heather Harmon: Okay, I've been deep in how bad the tech is
Heather Harmon: for this business just in the last month,
Heather Harmon: so, yeah, it's super painful.
Mark Haney : So we're investing into companies You're
Mark Haney : doing investing as well but a lot of AI,
Mark Haney : artificial intelligence where they're
Mark Haney : looking at video and basically dissecting
Mark Haney : it and giving feedback right.
Mark Haney : So I'm picturing somebody with their yoga
Mark Haney : practice video them themselves probably at
Mark Haney : home versus in the middle of the class, but
Mark Haney : going through and then having an AI agent
Mark Haney : that provides East Wind quality feedback,
Mark Haney : great feedback, the same kind of coaching
Mark Haney : that you might get one-on-one with an
Mark Haney : instructor, but you're actually getting it
Mark Haney : from a video.
Mark Haney : It's probably already being done I haven't
Mark Haney : even looked at it yet, but that was my idea
Mark Haney : that happened about one hour ago that idea
Mark Haney : happened, so what's your think?
Heather Harmon: If you think it's probably already being
Heather Harmon: done, I haven't even looked at it yet, but
Heather Harmon: that was my idea.
Heather Harmon: That happened about one hour ago that idea
Heather Harmon: happened.
Mark Haney : So what's your think?
Mark Haney : If you think it's already happening, that's
Mark Haney : probably a good idea.
Heather Harmon: Oh it's.
Heather Harmon: I mean all ideas are always happening,
Heather Harmon: right.
Heather Harmon: Every time I have an idea I'm like, okay,
Heather Harmon: assume five other people are already in
Heather Harmon: flight on that other, you know, is it worth
Heather Harmon: chasing?
Heather Harmon: But yeah, no, I I think that's.
Heather Harmon: It's kind of I have a background with
Heather Harmon: professional golf and so you know that was
Heather Harmon: a swing analysis, right, like you could get
Heather Harmon: every element of your swing broken down and
Heather Harmon: like reflected back to you and feedback and
Heather Harmon: all of that.
Mark Haney : Were you a professional golfer.
Heather Harmon: No, no, I was not.
Heather Harmon: Uh, yes, I was just part of that world for
Heather Harmon: a while.
Heather Harmon: So, yeah, but I could see yoga doing the
Heather Harmon: same thing.
Heather Harmon: You know that you would get that feedback
Heather Harmon: on alignment and all of the things that
Heather Harmon: would go on.
Heather Harmon: I think from a standpoint of studio yoga in
Heather Harmon: a place like East Wind you know it's like
Heather Harmon: you pointed out, oh, when I go to Cabo or
Heather Harmon: vacation yoga is not the same as East Wind
Heather Harmon: yoga and you cannot recreate East Wind yoga
Heather Harmon: in an experience that isn't in the studio,
Heather Harmon: with the community and feeling the heart
Heather Harmon: that's collectively beating through the
Heather Harmon: group that's doing the practice together.
Heather Harmon: You can't replace that with AI.
Mark Haney : Yeah, so my buddy, you guys know Uriah
Mark Haney : Faber, I think maybe do you know Uriah.
Heather Harmon: He's a.
Mark Haney : MMA superstar California kid.
Mark Haney : Yeah.
Mark Haney : Good buddy of mine.
Mark Haney : He invested into this um wrestling robot I
Mark Haney : can't think of the name of it right now,
Mark Haney : but basically selling robots to practice
Mark Haney : robots right, so you can practice against
Mark Haney : somebody.
Andrea Spacek: so the technology is, you know,
Andrea Spacek: accelerating at such a rapid pace that I
Andrea Spacek: can picture people having a home yoga robot,
Andrea Spacek: potentially right, so instructor yeah right,
Andrea Spacek: type thing um get your leg higher mark or
Andrea Spacek: whatever it is you know definitely, and
Andrea Spacek: there's a place for that, and there's so
Andrea Spacek: many reasons why we come to practice in a
Andrea Spacek: studio and but there's there's nothing what
Andrea Spacek: we I think a lot of us learn during covid.
Andrea Spacek: There's a place for that and there's so
Andrea Spacek: many reasons why we come to practice in a
Andrea Spacek: studio, and but there's, there's nothing
Andrea Spacek: what we I think a lot of us learn during
Andrea Spacek: COVID.
Andrea Spacek: There's nothing more medicinal than right
Andrea Spacek: community like we literally co-regulate
Andrea Spacek: each other.
Andrea Spacek: We bring each other so much.
Andrea Spacek: There's so much um, it's so.
Andrea Spacek: It's so much more than just accountability.
Andrea Spacek: It's just literally how we're wired is to
Andrea Spacek: be in community like that and all the
Andrea Spacek: connections that happen, you know.
Mark Haney : So I asked Scott.
Mark Haney : Scott was on the show.
Mark Haney : He's been on the show twice.
Mark Haney : The previous owner Once.
Mark Haney : We contrasted other kinds of fitness
Mark Haney : modalities and that was kind of interesting.
Mark Haney : We had the studio audience.
Mark Haney : It was a lot of fun.
Mark Haney : But the first time I had him on the show I
Mark Haney : asked him a question.
Mark Haney : I stumped him, so I'm going to ask you the
Mark Haney : same question.
Mark Haney : Okay, okay, who's your favorite teacher at
Mark Haney : Eastwind?
Andrea Spacek: Who's my favorite teacher?
Andrea Spacek: Oof, it's tough.
Andrea Spacek: I just like them all for different reasons.
Andrea Spacek: Scott has been my favorite teacher for a
Andrea Spacek: while because he always challenges me at a
Andrea Spacek: different level.
Andrea Spacek: I love Rose's booty classes.
Andrea Spacek: I think she does an amazing job.
Andrea Spacek: Booty yoga B-U-T-I.
Mark Haney : Yeah, I took a class with her one time and
Mark Haney : for those listening here, so I took a class
Mark Haney : with her one time.
Mark Haney : And for those listening here, so I took a
Mark Haney : class with her.
Mark Haney : I think she substituted in a class Somebody
Mark Haney : was on vacation or something so she came in
Mark Haney : and taught her style in one of the normal
Mark Haney : classes and I was blown away.
Mark Haney : Yeah, I could not keep up.
Heather Harmon: Yeah.
Mark Haney : It was definitely a workout.
Heather Harmon: It's humbling.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, it's humbling, yeah, it's humbling,
Andrea Spacek: that's a good way to play because I like
Andrea Spacek: because a lot of people getting into
Andrea Spacek: different yeah, different spiraling and
Andrea Spacek: different muscles, so she's always very
Andrea Spacek: creative and in what she brings and she has
Andrea Spacek: a lot of knowledge she makes it safe too,
Andrea Spacek: it's, and she makes it fun and safe, yeah
Andrea Spacek: you know, but it's hard to pick really
Andrea Spacek: everybody I love for a different reason all
Andrea Spacek: right, so how?
Mark Haney : about kind of like picking your favorite
Mark Haney : child okay, so not your favorite
Mark Haney : necessarily Heather, but describe to me one
Mark Haney : of the teachers that I guess um does you
Mark Haney : know you really appreciate in terms of the
Mark Haney : way that they teach you.
Heather Harmon: I think what I love about each of the
Heather Harmon: teachers is how they bring their own
Heather Harmon: presence to the class, and they, they ask
Heather Harmon: you to show up to yourself, and they all do
Heather Harmon: that in their own unique way, and I mean to
Heather Harmon: me that's the gift of East Wind is that
Heather Harmon: they are empowered to do that, so that, as
Heather Harmon: a student, when you come to the class,
Heather Harmon: you're always meeting yourself in a new way,
Heather Harmon: and I love that they have the courage to do
Heather Harmon: that.
Heather Harmon: It takes a lot of courage for all of them
Heather Harmon: to do what they come in and do, so it's
Heather Harmon: such a gift.
Heather Harmon: It takes a lot of courage for all of them
Heather Harmon: to do what they come in and do, so it's
Heather Harmon: such a gift it does take courage and if
Heather Harmon: anybody's listening, maybe that hasn't
Heather Harmon: really been to yoga.
Mark Haney : Some of it's like public speaking.
Mark Haney : So you get somebody who is not a public
Mark Haney : speaker but they're good at yoga and they
Mark Haney : want to go through teacher training and you
Mark Haney : come out.
Mark Haney : It's almost like you have to be an
Mark Haney : inspirational speaker at some level so that
Mark Haney : you can connect with the audience or
Mark Haney : connect with the students in a way that
Mark Haney : gets them to respect you and, you know,
Mark Haney : connect with themselves, like you said, and
Mark Haney : that's you know, especially when you take
Mark Haney : somebody, let's say they're a 22 year old
Mark Haney : person look, I'm thinking someone like
Mark Haney : Raquel.
Mark Haney : She's one that I really appreciate.
Mark Haney : I don't go to her class regularly, but I
Mark Haney : remember I think I was in her first class
Mark Haney : after teacher training and she was like a
Mark Haney : seasoned pro and I'm like you're just a kid.
Mark Haney : I don't know how old she is, but she was.
Mark Haney : She's young and but yet she found a way to
Mark Haney : be great and it was impressive.
Mark Haney : So that, um, I guess that speaks to the way
Mark Haney : that you teach, that your yoga teaching and
Mark Haney : you teach you have a lot of people going
Mark Haney : through the yoga teaching.
Mark Haney : I believe that don't necessarily teach at
Mark Haney : Eastwind Is that correct.
Heather Harmon: They may not teach anywhere ever.
Heather Harmon: They do it for their own personal journey.
Mark Haney : Okay, talk to me about that why go through
Mark Haney : the teacher training?
Mark Haney : What in the personal journey in the teacher
Mark Haney : training training do you get?
Mark Haney : Besides learn how to teach.
Andrea Spacek: Do you want to talk to it first?
Mark Haney : Yeah, have you been through teacher
Mark Haney : training?
Mark Haney : I have.
Mark Haney : Okay, yeah, yeah, and I did not intend to
Mark Haney : teach.
Heather Harmon: Okay, have you taught?
Mark Haney : classes no, oh, okay.
Heather Harmon: No.
Mark Haney : I taught a yoga class.
Mark Haney : I mean, I have taught, taught.
Heather Harmon: I want to hear about that I have taught a
Heather Harmon: yoga class not at East Wind, you know so.
Heather Harmon: I'm not, and it wasn't my intention.
Heather Harmon: When I did the teacher training, I wanted
Heather Harmon: to deepen my own practice so to to really
Heather Harmon: understand, at the elemental level, each
Heather Harmon: one of those micro pieces of putting it all
Heather Harmon: together.
Heather Harmon: And then there's an element that is woven
Heather Harmon: through the entire teacher training, where
Heather Harmon: it's bigger than the physical process.
Heather Harmon: Yoga is so holistic and so when you really
Heather Harmon: go into the teacher training, you're having
Heather Harmon: an entire journey with yourself through
Heather Harmon: that process that's unfolding this new
Heather Harmon: relationship with you, your practice and
Heather Harmon: the world around you.
Mark Haney : Interesting because, okay, so I'll tell you
Mark Haney : my training and I found myself, uh,
Mark Haney : thinking about how my experience at
Mark Haney : Eastwind.
Mark Haney : So I leave the house every morning at zero,
Mark Haney : dark 30.
Mark Haney : I think I leave at five 20 every morning
Mark Haney : during the week and it's different on the
Mark Haney : weekends.
Mark Haney : But now I'm on my way to yoga and I think
Mark Haney : my whole family knows, knows that, and we
Mark Haney : live on a family compound, so everybody
Mark Haney : knows, you know Bop is going to yoga and
Mark Haney : all that, and so they asked me to do like a
Mark Haney : class and none of the grandkids came but my
Mark Haney : wife, my daughter-in-law and my son.
Mark Haney : They wanted me to teach a yoga class.
Mark Haney : I'm like, oh, I never been a teacher
Mark Haney : training and so what do I do?
Mark Haney : But I guess it.
Mark Haney : I found myself not being what a yoga
Mark Haney : teacher at East one is in terms of helping
Mark Haney : them connect with themselves, like that.
Mark Haney : I walk them through the exercises, if you
Mark Haney : will, the physical part of it, and I think
Mark Haney : they appreciate it because one of them
Mark Haney : bought a yoga mat.
Mark Haney : So it's something that I think you just got
Mark Haney : to break in in your own way, because when I
Mark Haney : I think I've told you this before, andrea
Mark Haney : when I started, I was just there to replace
Mark Haney : CrossFit.
Mark Haney : I was like I just want to work out, and it
Mark Haney : was hard, but since then I've learned it's
Mark Haney : a lot more.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah Well, you have to be willing to go out
Andrea Spacek: of your comfort zone, out on a limb for
Andrea Spacek: people and risk sometimes pissing people
Andrea Spacek: off you know, like asking people to speak
Andrea Spacek: in front of class.
Andrea Spacek: Some people don't come back because of that,
Andrea Spacek: but most people that's the 100 reason they
Andrea Spacek: stay right so scott has always been really
Andrea Spacek: inspirational for me in understanding that,
Andrea Spacek: like you, have to be willing to take risks
Andrea Spacek: with the students and stand for them and
Andrea Spacek: stand for what's possible for them, even if
Andrea Spacek: they're not.
Andrea Spacek: They might push back and be like get on my
Andrea Spacek: face.
Andrea Spacek: I don't want to do that.
Mark Haney : But it's interesting.
Mark Haney : I think it's one of the things that I've
Mark Haney : seen.
Mark Haney : I'm more of a observer than don't try to be
Mark Haney : vocal at yoga because some people are in
Mark Haney : their own zone and don't want to chit-chat
Mark Haney : or whatever before yoga.
Mark Haney : But I live by this motto be ready, don't
Mark Haney : get ready.
Mark Haney : So I get there early and don't necessarily
Mark Haney : chit-chat or talk to people unless a
Mark Haney : subject comes up from somebody else,
Mark Haney : typically because I don't want chit chat or
Mark Haney : talk to people unless you know, unless
Mark Haney : something's you know a subject comes up
Mark Haney : from somebody else, typically because I
Mark Haney : don't want to bother anybody.
Mark Haney : But I know then people walk in.
Mark Haney : What I love about Eastwind is that you
Mark Haney : could be very social and those people are
Mark Haney : really well received and a lot of chit chat.
Mark Haney : Sometimes the class is loud before class,
Mark Haney : Sometimes it's really quiet, but even if
Mark Haney : somebody walks in a couple of minutes late,
Mark Haney : you accept them.
Mark Haney : There's no penalties, there's no judgment
Mark Haney : in terms of who's good, who's late.
Mark Haney : It's very much accepting of where you're at
Mark Haney : today in your life and your body.
Mark Haney : I love that about Eastwind.
Andrea Spacek: There is a little penalty.
Andrea Spacek: Is there Words of wisdom?
Andrea Spacek: Words of wisdom.
Mark Haney : I experienced that and I wasn't even really
Mark Haney : late.
Mark Haney : You can look at it as a gift.
Mark Haney : Somebody went in the bathroom for like 30
Mark Haney : minutes before class and so I you know I
Mark Haney : snuck in Excuses yeah, I don't make excuses.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, but that's you know.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, but that's you know I it is.
Andrea Spacek: Even to this day I still there's a it's.
Andrea Spacek: I'm constantly checking that edge for
Andrea Spacek: myself and checking that edge as far as how
Andrea Spacek: much I'm leaning in, how much am I willing
Andrea Spacek: to lean in for somebody, for somebody's
Andrea Spacek: excellence, and to call out their greatness.
Andrea Spacek: And because the truth is, even if they push
Andrea Spacek: back, we all want that, we all want to be
Andrea Spacek: seen, we want to be acknowledged and we
Andrea Spacek: also want to be called out.
Andrea Spacek: What are you doing over there?
Andrea Spacek: Just hanging out?
Mark Haney : Yeah.
Andrea Spacek: Because we want to grow.
Andrea Spacek: I think that's just our innate, the innate
Andrea Spacek: way we're wired.
Mark Haney : Okay.
Mark Haney : So who's your favorite student?
Mark Haney : Obviously you, okay, okay.
Mark Haney : Who's your second favorite student student?
Mark Haney : Um, no, but there's people that have made
Mark Haney : real progress are there.
Mark Haney : Is there an example of, let's say, a
Mark Haney : success story where, wow, look where this
Mark Haney : person's inspired me?
Andrea Spacek: oh god, there's I feel like there's so many
Andrea Spacek: I.
Andrea Spacek: There is someone I think about.
Andrea Spacek: I think about, uh, patrick patell, who
Andrea Spacek: comes to the studio we have the exact same
Andrea Spacek: birthday, do you?
Mark Haney : Yeah, you noticed one time.
Mark Haney : Oh, that's right.
Mark Haney : You said happy birthday, Mark, that's right.
Mark Haney : I think I was turning 60.
Mark Haney : I forgot about that.
Mark Haney : You're like it's your birthday.
Andrea Spacek: So they're my two favorites, yeah, we have
Andrea Spacek: the same birthday.
Andrea Spacek: Patrick's.
Andrea Spacek: Like it's my birthday too.
Andrea Spacek: We were born on the exact, not just the
Andrea Spacek: same.
Andrea Spacek: We're exact, same age.
Andrea Spacek: I mean he's the same age as me too, yeah,
Andrea Spacek: so I saw him go through a massive year-long
Andrea Spacek: shift in his practice.
Andrea Spacek: He stands out to me as came in pretty stiff
Andrea Spacek: and kind of and the Patrick you know I'll
Andrea Spacek: describe this guy to you from.
Mark Haney : I don't know him very well.
Mark Haney : He's plays like fantasy football and all.
Mark Haney : I'm in the pool with him and he's he knows
Mark Haney : football pretty well.
Mark Haney : Um, but he's, he's kind of a man's man,
Mark Haney : dead guy, right.
Mark Haney : He's probably six foot, 200 pounds type
Mark Haney : thing and he's a dude, right, he said owns
Mark Haney : his own business, I think.
Mark Haney : And uh, yeah, he's.
Mark Haney : Uh, he shows up regularly with his wife and
Mark Haney : uh, yeah, I gotta get my wife in there yeah,
Mark Haney : I love and I love this.
Andrea Spacek: I love the couples and I love how many the.
Andrea Spacek: The male to female ratio is pretty strong.
Andrea Spacek: I think in our community that sometimes
Andrea Spacek: it's dominated by women and or it's even
Andrea Spacek: it's at least perceived as a woman's world.
Andrea Spacek: In yoga but not I don't.
Andrea Spacek: In east wind, a lot of times my classes are
Andrea Spacek: about balance.
Andrea Spacek: Why do people join?
Andrea Spacek: Okay, so I know I told you why I joined,
Andrea Spacek: but from your, but not I don't.
Andrea Spacek: In Eastman, a lot of times my classes are
Andrea Spacek: about balance.
Mark Haney : Why do people join?
Mark Haney : Okay, so I know I told you why I joined,
Mark Haney : but from your talking to other people and
Mark Haney : maybe even asking people what are you doing
Mark Haney : here on their first day?
Mark Haney : Um, why are people joining?
Mark Haney : Like the what's the, what's the draw?
Mark Haney : Cause I, I remember I went to a yoga class,
Mark Haney : uh, early on the first year, and the lady,
Mark Haney : the instructor I can't remember her name
Mark Haney : she said she joined yoga because she wanted
Mark Haney : to have a better body.
Mark Haney : And I was like, oh, okay, I want to have a
Mark Haney : yoga.
Mark Haney : But she said I want to have a yoga.
Mark Haney : But, uh, so why, uh, why?
Mark Haney : Why do people join?
Mark Haney : It seems like a good reason.
Mark Haney : Yoga, it seems like a good reason.
Mark Haney : Yoga, butt's not a bad thing.
Andrea Spacek: Well, I think there's the belonging to we
Andrea Spacek: all.
Andrea Spacek: You think people join for the belonging
Andrea Spacek: Want to belong.
Andrea Spacek: I don't think that's why they.
Andrea Spacek: I think, subconsciously, there's a
Andrea Spacek: resonance and like why they would pick
Andrea Spacek: Eastwind over another studio, yeah, why
Andrea Spacek: they would join yoga?
Andrea Spacek: more, basically, realizing that that
Andrea Spacek: consistency is really where you're going to
Andrea Spacek: make any kind of change.
Andrea Spacek: If you go once a week, you're not going to
Andrea Spacek: see that big of a difference.
Andrea Spacek: So, becoming a member, having unlimited
Andrea Spacek: classes, sometimes people come twice a day
Andrea Spacek: and you know it's like before the workday,
Andrea Spacek: after the workday, and they realize, wow, I
Andrea Spacek: missed this when I'm not doing it, and so
Andrea Spacek: it's, it's really offering something for my,
Andrea Spacek: for my life.
Andrea Spacek: So I think that's the main reason?
Heather Harmon: Yeah, I think it's.
Heather Harmon: It can be just health.
Heather Harmon: You know, it lowers your blood pressure.
Heather Harmon: It detoxifies you.
Heather Harmon: It calms your nervous system.
Heather Harmon: It gives you stress reduction.
Heather Harmon: For people who are battling anxiety, it can
Heather Harmon: help you sleep better um.
Heather Harmon: It helps you focus better.
Heather Harmon: It gives you, um, a mental edge I think you
Heather Harmon: know, if you're on the mat and you go off
Heather Harmon: the mat, you go into work and you're just
Heather Harmon: clear, sharper, ready to go um.
Heather Harmon: And if you're ending your day with yoga,
Heather Harmon: you tend to eat better, you tend to not
Heather Harmon: want to do those bingey things you might do
Heather Harmon: at night, you go to bed earlier replace uh
Heather Harmon: netflix with yoga right, yeah all these
Heather Harmon: benefits of it, like just checking all the
Heather Harmon: boxes.
Heather Harmon: And we have a lot of people who come in.
Heather Harmon: We have a 30 30 day unlimited yoga intro
Heather Harmon: offer and so we get, like I don't know, 100
Heather Harmon: people through the door every month doing
Heather Harmon: that.
Heather Harmon: And why do they come?
Heather Harmon: Because a lot of them are out there doing
Heather Harmon: that with other studios too, but they
Heather Harmon: settle on Eastwind because it's different.
Heather Harmon: It's because the experience of a community
Heather Harmon: is different and all of the caliber of
Heather Harmon: classes they can attend are really
Heather Harmon: different.
Heather Harmon: There's variations.
Heather Harmon: That's not the same thing every time you
Heather Harmon: come.
Heather Harmon: You not the same thing every time you come.
Heather Harmon: You want the same thing every time you come.
Heather Harmon: There's places for that.
Heather Harmon: That's not East Wind.
Heather Harmon: East Wind's diversity Diversity across the
Heather Harmon: teachers, diversity in the classroom, among
Heather Harmon: the students who are practicing next to
Heather Harmon: each other, and you see all types of levels
Heather Harmon: of yoga happening around you in the room,
Heather Harmon: like people like you, mark, that are
Heather Harmon: intense and sitting at the advanced level
Heather Harmon: in poses, all the way down to people who
Heather Harmon: are choosing child's pose because they
Heather Harmon: don't want to push that edge today, and
Heather Harmon: that's all acceptable and it's just such a
Heather Harmon: such an accepting, welcoming environment to
Heather Harmon: challenge yourself it is the one thing I
Heather Harmon: have heard a few times and I wonder how
Heather Harmon: often this comes up.
Mark Haney : I've seen people come in I haven't noticed
Mark Haney : it in a guy yet, but sometimes I'm around
Mark Haney : when a new student, first timer, comes in
Mark Haney : and goes oh this is hot yoga, and I've
Mark Haney : heard them express that to Scott and
Mark Haney : they're afraid there's a fear factor
Mark Haney : associated with I don't like hot the heat,
Mark Haney : afraid there's a fear factor associated
Mark Haney : with I don't like hot the heat, that I
Mark Haney : don't like heat and what's is.
Mark Haney : I can see that for some people it's just
Mark Haney : not for them, but then other people
Mark Haney : probably could get accustomed to
Mark Haney : appreciating what it does yeah, we've
Mark Haney : totally seen people come in intimidated or
Mark Haney : scared of the heat and adapt and learn to
Mark Haney : love it.
Heather Harmon: Um for sure.
Andrea Spacek: You get addicted to it.
Heather Harmon: Yeah, there's such a release.
Andrea Spacek: There's such a release through the sweat
Andrea Spacek: that's happening that I think you miss it
Andrea Spacek: when it's not yeah and so and not, there's
Andrea Spacek: so many benefits to the heat.
Andrea Spacek: I mean there's the challenging your cardio,
Andrea Spacek: even when you're not doing a cardio
Andrea Spacek: exercise.
Andrea Spacek: You know, um, it's definitely detoxing.
Andrea Spacek: We know it's this kind of like rinse for
Andrea Spacek: the organs that's happening.
Andrea Spacek: You know it's like clearing a lot out of
Andrea Spacek: the blood.
Andrea Spacek: Now you have to be careful about replacing,
Andrea Spacek: because we're you're also sweating out
Andrea Spacek: minerals and so you know there's definitely
Andrea Spacek: periodically we'll especially in the summer
Andrea Spacek: challenge time, we will talk about that
Andrea Spacek: more and it's like you got to replace those
Andrea Spacek: minerals in your body.
Andrea Spacek: You got to do the electrolytes the summer
Andrea Spacek: challenge.
Mark Haney : Now, I have never done it, but I do
Mark Haney : crossfit, maybe this year.
Mark Haney : Maybe it's a it's time consuming I've got
Mark Haney : to replace my uh m Ultra, I guess, with a
Mark Haney : nighttime class, but it makes me think that
Mark Haney : I want to describe what that is.
Mark Haney : So it's where you take two classes per day.
Mark Haney : These are intense type of they can be
Mark Haney : intense type of workouts depending,
Mark Haney : depending on how you, how you approach it,
Mark Haney : but that's uh, that's a lot for a lot of
Mark Haney : people.
Mark Haney : But you get a large group of people um
Mark Haney : building this community of people that have
Mark Haney : that are going through it together.
Mark Haney : You're going through this um very difficult
Mark Haney : challenge of doing two yoga classes a day
Mark Haney : over, like an 80 day period.
Andrea Spacek: Uh, a lot of times, so it's 90 days, from
Andrea Spacek: June 1st to September 1st, and in that
Andrea Spacek: amount of time, the challenge is that you
Andrea Spacek: need to do 80 classes and 20 of those need
Andrea Spacek: to be doubles.
Andrea Spacek: Okay, so it's yeah, it's almost every day
Andrea Spacek: that you're there.
Andrea Spacek: People travel, people you know.
Andrea Spacek: So they have to work it out, and they have,
Andrea Spacek: and the powerful part is they have to
Andrea Spacek: choose themselves over other things that
Andrea Spacek: are going on over there.
Andrea Spacek: You know what's what other people are doing,
Andrea Spacek: want them to be doing, and it's saying I'm
Andrea Spacek: so committed to this that I'm making this a
Andrea Spacek: priority.
Mark Haney : I see all the school teachers are all doing
Mark Haney : that.
Andrea Spacek: We do get a lot of school teachers that
Andrea Spacek: love that.
Mark Haney : But no, I think it's great and I love the
Mark Haney : still kind of going back to the approach of
Mark Haney : hey, if you end up uh doing okay, you don't
Mark Haney : complete the challenge necessarily.
Mark Haney : You're still a hero because you attempted
Mark Haney : and you know maybe next year you do it
Mark Haney : again and, you know, advance a little
Mark Haney : further and that type of thing.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, I signed up this year.
Andrea Spacek: I didn't finish it and I will likely do
Andrea Spacek: that again because I like a challenge.
Andrea Spacek: Also because, and and in that time I did a
Andrea Spacek: lot more yoga than I would have done and I
Andrea Spacek: saw immediate benefits in my life.
Andrea Spacek: I had all this creative energy open up for
Andrea Spacek: myself, I had all these ideas come in and
Andrea Spacek: my life started flowing better.
Andrea Spacek: So, just from you know, adding in I don't
Andrea Spacek: know how many, at least four classes a week.
Andrea Spacek: So it's, the work works if you do it.
Andrea Spacek: I mean, I think that's the, that's the news.
Andrea Spacek: It's like there is something to it, there's
Andrea Spacek: a lot to it and the.
Andrea Spacek: There's so many different levels of
Andrea Spacek: commitment.
Andrea Spacek: We let them all be okay.
Andrea Spacek: If you're going to come once a month, if
Andrea Spacek: you're going to come once twice a day,
Andrea Spacek: there's room for you here and just let
Andrea Spacek: yourself be inspired by what's possible in
Andrea Spacek: yeah, so okay, so I got I have three more
Andrea Spacek: questions.
Mark Haney : So one is uh, let's talk about life balance,
Mark Haney : because I think when we start a new
Mark Haney : business or something like that, something
Mark Haney : where you, where you tackle something big,
Mark Haney : your life can get out of balance in those
Mark Haney : kind of situations.
Mark Haney : And maybe it's good that you get out of
Mark Haney : balance, because that's how you I mean,
Mark Haney : winning is hard, especially when you're
Mark Haney : starting things.
Mark Haney : But how do you, andrea, you have a couple
Mark Haney : little kids, how do you keep it all
Mark Haney : balanced?
Mark Haney : You know, working mom with entrepreneurial,
Mark Haney : uh, a job, yeah, that doesn't sound easy.
Andrea Spacek: So I and I had a kind of a double whammy
Andrea Spacek: where I was going through a divorce at the
Andrea Spacek: same time that I took ownership of the
Andrea Spacek: studio with Heather.
Andrea Spacek: So and it's, it was a lot.
Andrea Spacek: Last year was very challenging so much
Andrea Spacek: growth, so many things for the first time,
Andrea Spacek: learning how to live on my own and have the
Andrea Spacek: kids 50-50, but on my own was a lot and I
Andrea Spacek: did many times get out of balance.
Andrea Spacek: Necessarily I kind of accepted I was going
Andrea Spacek: to be for a short period of time and you
Andrea Spacek: can do anything for a short period of time
Andrea Spacek: if you know it's going to end right and so
Andrea Spacek: it's just been a recalibration continually.
Andrea Spacek: But one thing I did for myself in the
Andrea Spacek: beginning is I said I'm going to take one
Andrea Spacek: day a week as a self-care day, one day and
Andrea Spacek: I would go to the hot springs or I would go
Andrea Spacek: get a massage or I would do something that
Andrea Spacek: was just really for me to decompress and I
Andrea Spacek: found that worked really well.
Andrea Spacek: And then I let it slide and I got away from
Andrea Spacek: it and just recently I brought that back
Andrea Spacek: and so finding strategies to also
Andrea Spacek: consolidate.
Andrea Spacek: I'm going to respond to all of these emails
Andrea Spacek: on Thursday versus right now.
Andrea Spacek: I was always like a now person, and so I've
Andrea Spacek: been.
Andrea Spacek: I'm a recovering now person.
Andrea Spacek: I now person.
Andrea Spacek: I'm not fully there yet, but that
Andrea Spacek: immediately having to respond to everything
Andrea Spacek: that's coming at you, it just doesn't work
Andrea Spacek: anymore for everything that's coming at me.
Mark Haney : Okay.
Mark Haney : So, heather, how's your life balance and
Mark Haney : maybe just some advice for entrepreneurs,
Mark Haney : since you've walked in those shoes, in this
Mark Haney : case, you're more of an investor is what I
Mark Haney : can tell.
Mark Haney : So I assume how's your life balance and
Mark Haney : then any advice.
Mark Haney : How's your life balance currently and then
Mark Haney : how?
Mark Haney : Any advice to entrepreneurs for discovering
Mark Haney : life balance or finding a way to get there.
Heather Harmon: Yeah, I have an unpublished TED Talk called
Heather Harmon: Fuck Balance a way to get there.
Heather Harmon: Yeah, I I have an unpublished TED talk
Heather Harmon: called fuck balance.
Heather Harmon: I don't believe in balance.
Heather Harmon: I think, that if we're really going at life,
Heather Harmon: um, we can't control all the variables all
Heather Harmon: the time and they're always coming, and so
Heather Harmon: if we get into this rhythm of I've got
Heather Harmon: balance, it's like we're just always a
Heather Harmon: hairpin away from being pulled down.
Heather Harmon: So the the way I operate in life is I've
Heather Harmon: got balance.
Heather Harmon: It's like we're just always a hairpin away
Heather Harmon: from being pulled down.
Heather Harmon: So the way I operate in life is I've got
Heather Harmon: all these things I've got to do.
Heather Harmon: I have a million tabs open and I'm really
Heather Harmon: present with the tab I have open.
Heather Harmon: I'm really really present.
Heather Harmon: I prioritize ruthlessly.
Heather Harmon: So I have to think about is this a P zero?
Heather Harmon: Is this the thing that has to be done right
Heather Harmon: now, or is this something that can wait?
Heather Harmon: And I think about time allocation and, like,
Heather Harmon: depending on how fast my life is moving,
Heather Harmon: I'm calibrating time to the seconds or the
Heather Harmon: minutes or the days.
Heather Harmon: You know, it's like sometimes life is just
Heather Harmon: so accelerated that I have to think about
Heather Harmon: every single second, like how many seconds
Heather Harmon: can I give that thing and in what order of
Heather Harmon: operations.
Heather Harmon: As soon as I surrender that need for
Heather Harmon: balance, I'm liberated, I am at peace
Heather Harmon: because I'm in full acceptance of the chaos
Heather Harmon: my life is in right.
Mark Haney : And that's so important.
Heather Harmon: I have to live in that space.
Heather Harmon: I know some people need the illusion of
Heather Harmon: balance.
Heather Harmon: I think it's an illusion.
Heather Harmon: I don't think we ever have balance.
Heather Harmon: I think we're always in this constant state
Heather Harmon: of flux, making trade-offs.
Heather Harmon: We have to make trade-offs all the time and
Heather Harmon: if we don't do that from a place of
Heather Harmon: surrender, from a place of acceptance, then
Heather Harmon: we're constantly in inner conflict and
Heather Harmon: trying to make things add up.
Heather Harmon: Do the accounting in such a way where
Heather Harmon: there's, you know, the P&L adds up, like
Heather Harmon: it's just not going to.
Heather Harmon: It's not going to.
Heather Harmon: There's never enough minutes in the day, at
Heather Harmon: least in my life, to accomplish all the
Heather Harmon: things that I wish I got done in the day.
Heather Harmon: So I have to accept that.
Heather Harmon: This is how I'm calibrating, this is how
Heather Harmon: I'm prioritizing, these are the things I
Heather Harmon: got done, forgive myself for the things I
Heather Harmon: didn't get done, reassign and I live in
Heather Harmon: that space at peace.
Heather Harmon: I didn't always live there when I tried to
Heather Harmon: achieve balance.
Heather Harmon: It was just this constant state of
Heather Harmon: disappointment in myself, like I was not
Heather Harmon: getting there.
Heather Harmon: So I mean, that is my advice to
Heather Harmon: entrepreneurs is embrace the lack of
Heather Harmon: balance and be willing to surrender to that
Heather Harmon: space.
Mark Haney : I have a different philosophy, although I
Mark Haney : agree with what you have space.
Mark Haney : I have a different philosophy, although I
Mark Haney : agree with what you have.
Mark Haney : I have a different philosophy for myself,
Mark Haney : and that is cut all the things out of your
Mark Haney : life that aren't as productive and get
Mark Haney : something.
Mark Haney : Get somebody else to do them or don't do
Mark Haney : them.
Mark Haney : My wife says I'm the laziest man in America
Mark Haney : because I really don't do anything that I
Mark Haney : don't want to do.
Mark Haney : Scott's never said that, but I know he
Mark Haney : thinks it.
Mark Haney : This dude is so freaking lazy I can't
Mark Haney : believe it.
Mark Haney : Well, other people think I'm hardworking
Mark Haney : because I go to CrossFit, yoga and all that
Mark Haney : stuff, but in reality I only do what I want
Mark Haney : to do and I'm a good enough sales guy to
Mark Haney : get people to help me do the stuff that I
Mark Haney : don't feel like doing, so it helps Be a
Mark Haney : good salesperson.
Heather Harmon: Yeah, it's good.
Heather Harmon: And that's prioritization too, Mark, right
Heather Harmon: Like you're prioritizing even as you're
Heather Harmon: delegating.
Heather Harmon: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Mark Haney : I okay.
Mark Haney : So I'm going to hit you up for a future to
Mark Haney : get to hear your Ted talk, um, either on
Mark Haney : the show or come speak to a group of
Mark Haney : entrepreneurs, because that, uh, I love the
Mark Haney : concept.
Mark Haney : Um, because you know, I'm not really in the.
Mark Haney : I'm starting a business mode right now in
Mark Haney : my life.
Mark Haney : That's not the, I guess the the season I'm
Mark Haney : in at the mode, but a lot of people are
Mark Haney : that I am around and they're the most
Mark Haney : ambitious people in the world and they have
Mark Haney : to get okay with being ambitious.
Mark Haney : They got to get okay with themselves and be
Mark Haney : enough sales, a good enough salesperson to
Mark Haney : get their spouse and their family to back
Mark Haney : them, the people they care about, to back
Mark Haney : them with this, with this journey, if it
Mark Haney : happens to be entrepreneurship.
Mark Haney : But I think when you're trying to do
Mark Haney : anything great in your life, you've got to,
Mark Haney : you've got to get out of balance.
Mark Haney : So I agree 100%, but I'd love to hear your
Mark Haney : uh, you know, ted Talk.
Heather Harmon: I've been asked to give it many times.
Heather Harmon: I haven't gone to that point yet.
Heather Harmon: But if we bring it back to yoga, it's the
Heather Harmon: same.
Heather Harmon: You roll out your mat, you push yourself to
Heather Harmon: your edge.
Heather Harmon: You're going to get wobbly, you're going to
Heather Harmon: fall over.
Heather Harmon: Things are not going to be in balance if
Heather Harmon: you're really pushing at your edge and I
Heather Harmon: think that's why yoga saves me in my
Heather Harmon: entrepreneurial journey is because I can go
Heather Harmon: to my mat and I can take myself to my limit
Heather Harmon: and I can fall over and it's okay because I
Heather Harmon: can get back up again.
Mark Haney : Yeah, and isn't that where the growth
Mark Haney : happens?
Heather Harmon: Yeah, yeah, that is.
Heather Harmon: You can't do anything without taking that
Heather Harmon: risk, right?
Heather Harmon: You have to be willing to fly to the sun
Heather Harmon: and let your wax wings get burned.
Heather Harmon: If you're going to take a risk, like if
Heather Harmon: you're going to do the thing okay, okay.
Mark Haney : So one more uh, two more questions, okay.
Mark Haney : Uh, one you both travel.
Mark Haney : You mentioned earlier that you travel and I
Mark Haney : did not know that.
Mark Haney : But, andrea, you're, you're gone now and
Mark Haney : then on these uh trips.
Mark Haney : Is that part of your personal growth or is
Mark Haney : that just for fun, because you always come
Mark Haney : back?
Mark Haney : When you come back from a trip, you're
Mark Haney : coming back.
Mark Haney : You know you're always inspired, but you're
Mark Haney : coming back with more creative ideas and
Mark Haney : that kind of thing yeah, so it's part of
Mark Haney : how I'm wired.
Andrea Spacek: I know that I need I need a certain amount
Andrea Spacek: of travel and exposure to different parts
Andrea Spacek: of the world and experiences to stay
Andrea Spacek: inspired in the day-to-day.
Andrea Spacek: You know, every showing up and I also feel
Andrea Spacek: called to different places by spirit.
Andrea Spacek: I feel that it's I'm actually answering a
Andrea Spacek: call to you need to show up here because
Andrea Spacek: there's something going on on this part of
Andrea Spacek: the the the grid, I would call it that
Andrea Spacek: needs your energy, and so that is something
Andrea Spacek: I know is I've known for a while is gonna
Andrea Spacek: be part of my journey is going to these
Andrea Spacek: places also, leading retreats there,
Andrea Spacek: bringing people there.
Andrea Spacek: And I did do some big trips this year.
Andrea Spacek: Heather was on one of them in Egypt and
Andrea Spacek: then I, shortly shortly after, went to peru.
Andrea Spacek: I'm actually headed to costa rica on monday
Andrea Spacek: and that's with my kids and I.
Andrea Spacek: I don't even know what's going to happen, I
Andrea Spacek: just know that I'm supposed to be there,
Andrea Spacek: and so it's part of a commitment, that of
Andrea Spacek: showing up to that, and also I know that
Andrea Spacek: it's for our community too, bringing that
Andrea Spacek: energy back and weaving it into what we're
Andrea Spacek: doing, because we see the reach of East
Andrea Spacek: Wind global.
Andrea Spacek: We don't know exactly how that happens yet,
Andrea Spacek: but in a way, us going out into the world
Andrea Spacek: me leading retreats, heather participating
Andrea Spacek: in different, putting together her own
Andrea Spacek: retreats and things going on that is part
Andrea Spacek: of seeding that energy around the world and
Andrea Spacek: bringing it home, and so I'm excited to see
Andrea Spacek: what's going to come out of that, because I
Andrea Spacek: don't know, but I know it's going to be
Andrea Spacek: amazing.
Mark Haney : I'm called to travel by my wife.
Mark Haney : She's like anywhere, anytime she will go
Mark Haney : anywhere, if I even hint at a possible
Mark Haney : vacation.
Mark Haney : There's flights and I'm like we just got
Mark Haney : back from New Zealand and Australia the
Mark Haney : other day and I end up once you do like I
Mark Haney : want my, I like my routines and I like Cabo
Mark Haney : is like part of a routine because it's easy,
Mark Haney : it's a quick flight and we got a place
Mark Haney : there, so we go down there and it's I know
Mark Haney : everybody.
Mark Haney : But going to these new areas and getting
Mark Haney : this spiritual growth, I'm not like called
Mark Haney : on that other than my wife telling me to do
Mark Haney : that.
Mark Haney : But every time I do it, whether we go to
Mark Haney : Africa anywhere.
Mark Haney : I've been all over the world and I always
Mark Haney : come back, appreciate it.
Mark Haney : I miss my routines, but I always feel
Mark Haney : better, that I've learned something and
Mark Haney : spent some time with my wife.
Andrea Spacek: That's why you're backyard productions?
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, because you're a backyard guy.
Andrea Spacek: And some of us are meant to be ambassadors
Andrea Spacek: and to move out and some of us are supposed
Andrea Spacek: to just stay put.
Andrea Spacek: And I look at, you know, what we're doing
Andrea Spacek: at Eastman and the community we're creating,
Andrea Spacek: and I look at it as a microcosm of the of
Andrea Spacek: the globe and what we do together is the.
Andrea Spacek: It's what I want to see in the world, and
Andrea Spacek: so that there's some kind of mirror that
Andrea Spacek: happens when I go out and I I don't I can't
Andrea Spacek: fully put into words that might land right
Andrea Spacek: now, but that it's, you know, it's the same
Andrea Spacek: thing.
Andrea Spacek: And so I get inspired to bring back from
Andrea Spacek: other cultures some of the simplicity, like
Andrea Spacek: in Peru, there's so much connection to the
Andrea Spacek: land and to their, their lineages and their,
Andrea Spacek: their families, this multi-generational
Andrea Spacek: living, and that there's these really
Andrea Spacek: distilled um practice.
Andrea Spacek: It's not even a practice, it's a way of
Andrea Spacek: being, it's just really from the heart.
Andrea Spacek: It's like living from your heart.
Andrea Spacek: And to bring that back and even if I'm not
Andrea Spacek: directly talking about Peru, it's coming
Andrea Spacek: through me.
Mark Haney : You know that that's what is happening
Mark Haney : you're so much more wise than I am.
Mark Haney : I have this attitude of build from the
Mark Haney : inside out right.
Mark Haney : So if I can get me right, get out of my own
Mark Haney : way, that's good, and then get my family
Mark Haney : right, get my community, my town right,
Mark Haney : that type of thing I'm like.
Mark Haney : I don't think about going other places to
Mark Haney : get it, to bring it back.
Heather Harmon: I'm more into tradition and that kind of
Heather Harmon: thing.
Mark Haney : So it's kind of interesting to to know
Mark Haney : people that just see the glow, you know,
Mark Haney : see such a big picture in a different way.
Mark Haney : Okay, so now, heather, it's your turn.
Mark Haney : Why do you like to travel?
Mark Haney : You've been traveling, uh, I hear so.
Mark Haney : Talk to me about what travel does for you
Mark Haney : and how that, I guess, inspires you, or the
Mark Haney : growth associated with that.
Heather Harmon: I think it's the same as what Andrea was
Heather Harmon: saying, for me too, that the travel is a
Heather Harmon: way to connect and to bring back what I
Heather Harmon: learned from other cultures and the
Heather Harmon: embedding in those spaces and places and
Heather Harmon: ways of being and always learning.
Heather Harmon: And I think, if we think about the planet
Heather Harmon: in kind of a biological way, it's a biome
Heather Harmon: and there's different microorganisms that
Heather Harmon: are coming from all these different places
Heather Harmon: on the planet and when we go and culture
Heather Harmon: ourselves in those different environments,
Heather Harmon: we're literally replenishing our own biome
Heather Harmon: with all of these different ways of being
Heather Harmon: and we resonate in that and we bring it
Heather Harmon: back into where we are and we pollinate
Heather Harmon: that into the environment that we're in.
Heather Harmon: It's not so direct, it's not so I have to
Heather Harmon: say the words for that to be true.
Heather Harmon: It's just a beingness and that integration
Heather Harmon: so deep I agree with what you're saying,
Heather Harmon: but it's like yeahness, and that
Heather Harmon: integration.
Mark Haney : So deep.
Mark Haney : I agree with what you're saying, but it's
Mark Haney : like, yeah, that's deep.
Mark Haney : Good night.
Heather Harmon: Also like bringing these whole things
Heather Harmon: together.
Heather Harmon: I have this whole technology world and I
Heather Harmon: have this travel world and this yoga world
Heather Harmon: and all these things, and so I get to take
Heather Harmon: a group to the camino to walk in spain in
Heather Harmon: may of this year my wife's going on, she's
Heather Harmon: not going, she, I'm not, she's dragging her
Heather Harmon: mother, my mother-in-law.
Mark Haney : But when, uh, when, are you going?
Heather Harmon: so our trip is the third week of may, okay
Heather Harmon: I think she's we're doing yes, I have a
Heather Harmon: group of people from prop tech that are all
Heather Harmon: meeting up and um we'll fly into madrid,
Heather Harmon: and then we'll get over and onto the Camino.
Mark Haney : How far are you gonna walk?
Heather Harmon: We're doing 100 kilometers, so it's the
Heather Harmon: yeah.
Heather Harmon: So, it's cool.
Heather Harmon: It's a way to just see the integration
Heather Harmon: across like, hey, unplug from your super
Heather Harmon: busy, crazy entrepreneurial life to this
Heather Harmon: experience where mostly it's unplugged to
Heather Harmon: be on the Camino.
Heather Harmon: There's connectivity in the evenings when
Heather Harmon: we're off the walk, but yeah, so I'm
Heather Harmon: excited about that too.
Mark Haney : That's great, okay.
Mark Haney : So last question.
Mark Haney : I'll throw it to both of you.
Mark Haney : Okay, and you probably have different
Mark Haney : answers.
Mark Haney : What did I not ask you that I should have
Mark Haney : asked you on the show today?
Mark Haney : Oh, you'd probably have different answers.
Mark Haney : What did I not ask you that I should have
Mark Haney : asked you?
Andrea Spacek: on the show today.
Andrea Spacek: Oh, I love the talk about leadership and
Andrea Spacek: what it means to you know, be a leader.
Andrea Spacek: That was something that we talked about.
Andrea Spacek: Talking about.
Mark Haney : I didn't read my show notes.
Mark Haney : Scott typed them up.
Mark Haney : No, it's all good.
Mark Haney : I scanned it before the show.
Andrea Spacek: For another time, Because I love the.
Andrea Spacek: There's so much there and that's part of
Andrea Spacek: why I love teacher trainings, because it's
Andrea Spacek: really about becoming stepping into the
Andrea Spacek: realm of a leader we all are.
Andrea Spacek: We all are leading our lives right, but to
Andrea Spacek: really own it, and when you take it to a
Andrea Spacek: community it takes it to another level,
Andrea Spacek: really own it, and when you take it to a
Andrea Spacek: community, what makes a great leader level?
Andrea Spacek: I think self responsibility like what we're
Andrea Spacek: talking.
Andrea Spacek: Lead yourself.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, lead yourself.
Andrea Spacek: Lead from a place of deep trust and knowing,
Andrea Spacek: and also have an amazing council of people
Andrea Spacek: around you, because none of us walks alone.
Andrea Spacek: We all, you know we don't.
Andrea Spacek: We don't have to carry it all, um, so have
Andrea Spacek: wonderful people to support you and to
Andrea Spacek: bounce things off of, but in the end, it's
Andrea Spacek: you and god, it's you and spirit that need
Andrea Spacek: to make decisions.
Andrea Spacek: And what kind of leader are you?
Andrea Spacek: I think I'm a very heart-led leader.
Andrea Spacek: I lead with my heart and I also I've
Andrea Spacek: learned so much this year about taking more
Andrea Spacek: time with decisions, not to respond right
Andrea Spacek: away, to take time with myself and out of
Andrea Spacek: the initial reactions that I want to
Andrea Spacek: sometimes know or when it's really strong,
Andrea Spacek: I've learned.
Andrea Spacek: Let's take a little time with that.
Mark Haney : You strike me as somebody that's not
Mark Haney : transactional in their leadership.
Mark Haney : So you're building, you're playing for the
Mark Haney : long run in the way you develop
Mark Haney : relationships, versus trying to cut a deal.
Andrea Spacek: And everything.
Andrea Spacek: I look at it as everything's figureoutable.
Andrea Spacek: So if we lead with that, then we're not so
Andrea Spacek: ready to just cancel people out that things
Andrea Spacek: aren't going well.
Andrea Spacek: It's like, oh, you need to go.
Andrea Spacek: And that is something that I'm so proud of
Andrea Spacek: is how you know, taking ownership and being
Andrea Spacek: a previous employee to Scott and also he
Andrea Spacek: was a mentor at some point to me.
Andrea Spacek: That's a tough transition with him still
Andrea Spacek: being there and we've had a lot of fun
Andrea Spacek: telling him challenges no I mean it's
Andrea Spacek: sometimes
Andrea Spacek: yeah, it is a little fun uh, not that he
Andrea Spacek: listens to me all the time, but it's nice
Andrea Spacek: when he does.
Mark Haney : Yeah, but so he's got a great attitude
Mark Haney : about it, though he does.
Mark Haney : From my perspective, yeah, it's been.
Mark Haney : It's been a great attitude about it, though
Mark Haney : he does, and it's been From my perspective,
Mark Haney : yeah, it's been a lot.
Andrea Spacek: That's how I We've been through a lot of
Andrea Spacek: little kerfuffles.
Andrea Spacek: You could call them.
Mark Haney : Yeah, well, you guys have made some changes
Mark Haney : and it's been great.
Andrea Spacek: Yeah, he's not going to agree with
Andrea Spacek: everything.
Andrea Spacek: He might see it and yeah and I love the way
Andrea Spacek: that, and even you know, heather and I when
Andrea Spacek: things get intense.
Andrea Spacek: They get intense and they're going to bring
Andrea Spacek: up, but what I bring to everything I do is
Andrea Spacek: the self-awareness that, even in the moment,
Andrea Spacek: if I'm mad at somebody, this is really
Andrea Spacek: about me.
Andrea Spacek: This is really about they're bringing up
Andrea Spacek: something within myself that I need to face
Andrea Spacek: and deal with, because I don't blame other
Andrea Spacek: people for how I, for my experience
Andrea Spacek: essentially which is what I'm asking the
Andrea Spacek: students to do and so, I think, to be a
Andrea Spacek: good leader, it's, it's walking the talk
Andrea Spacek: that you're talking and taking it to the
Andrea Spacek: level of wow.
Andrea Spacek: You know, I can't blame anybody for how
Andrea Spacek: things go, so I got some work to do right,
Andrea Spacek: heather, you've obviously had a history of
Andrea Spacek: successful leadership.
Mark Haney : Thoughts on leadership.
Heather Harmon: I think people first.
Heather Harmon: We used to say at Red Door, allie, and I
Heather Harmon: would say people, product profit and people
Heather Harmon: were first our people, second our users,
Heather Harmon: our customers, and then the product itself,
Heather Harmon: the thing that we're delivering.
Heather Harmon: A lot of times we reverse that we operate
Heather Harmon: from product profit and then people, or we
Heather Harmon: even operate from profit first, and I can't
Heather Harmon: do that in a business as a leader, it's
Heather Harmon: people first.
Heather Harmon: I can't do that in a business as a leader,
Heather Harmon: it's people first.
Heather Harmon: I can't do anything that I'm aiming to do
Heather Harmon: or accomplish without the people who are
Heather Harmon: doing it with me.
Heather Harmon: I am incapable by myself of achieving
Heather Harmon: things.
Mark Haney : Greatness comes because of the alignment of
Mark Haney : the people who do it with me.
Mark Haney : Okay, give me, besides you, who comes to
Mark Haney : mind in terms of that is an inspirational,
Mark Haney : uh, an inspiration as a leader.
Mark Haney : Who is there?
Mark Haney : Someone famous that, or maybe that we, that
Mark Haney : the the general public might know of, or
Mark Haney : maybe even somebody in your personal life
Mark Haney : that's like.
Heather Harmon: That person is somebody I respect as a
Heather Harmon: leader yeah, I think I just came off of a
Heather Harmon: big leadership um week at harvard and one
Heather Harmon: of the cases we studied was pete carroll
Heather Harmon: and he would the seattle seahawks exactly,
Heather Harmon: yeah he's chews the heck out of that gum,
Heather Harmon: doesn't he?
Mark Haney : I mean you guys probably don't watch that
Mark Haney : much football I I see, yeah, he does
Mark Haney : scott's over here going.
Mark Haney : Yeah, he goes through a bunch of gum during
Mark Haney : the course of the game.
Heather Harmon: Big buddies.
Heather Harmon: He is a humanistic leader and he's an
Heather Harmon: inspirational leader and he takes each one
Heather Harmon: of his players and he invests in them as a
Heather Harmon: person Not you are on this team and we are
Heather Harmon: doing this thing.
Heather Harmon: He's holistic in every single one of his
Heather Harmon: relationships with the people on the team
Heather Harmon: and we are doing this thing.
Heather Harmon: He's holistic in every single one of his
Heather Harmon: relationships with the people on the team
Heather Harmon: and I think that's.
Heather Harmon: There's all kinds of ways to get there
Heather Harmon: right.
Heather Harmon: You can get the job done on the field all
Heather Harmon: kinds of ways.
Heather Harmon: As a coach, I personally am really inspired
Heather Harmon: by how P Carol does it.
Mark Haney : I love it Okay, so what did I not ask you?
Heather Harmon: I don't know.
Mark Haney : I feel like you asked it okay yeah, all
Mark Haney : right, good, I did my job.
Mark Haney : Yeah, check the box.
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Mark Haney : what I think is very educational and
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Andrea Spacek: A joy, you bet, yeah.
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