Tallgirl6234: welcome to sense, sensibility, and chaos, where we travel through the sands of time, and determine if we would rather be in the past, present, or future.
BusySomethings: I'm busy, while I would like to think I would travel to ancient Greece or Egypt. Most likely I would go to Italy to meet my ancestors and arrive just as Mount Vesuvius was exploding
WellReadHead: I'm well read drawing inspiration from authors such as Wells and Gabeldon, I'd be the 1st to jump into a time travel scenario, and also the 1st to miss my ereader
Tallgirl6234: And I'm tall. Girl, while using common sense in modern times is acceptable. It would probably find me accused of witchcraft in another era.
BusySomethings: Today's episode is all about the possibility of time travel, which era could we survive in, and what modern conveniences would we not survive without
WellReadHead: Whether ancient Egypt is your Roman empire. You dream of navigating the complexities of medieval Europe, or you're just wondering if you could cope without your smartphone. We've got you covered
Tallgirl6234: Let's travel through time
BusySomethings: Hi Ladies
WellReadHead: Hey There! You with the stars in your eyes...
BusySomethings: Time travel. Why are people so fascinated by it?
Tallgirl6234: They want to get the hell out of here.
Tallgirl6234: Bah dum Ching
WellReadHead: I think it has a lot to do with escapism. You know we think that things were simpler or less
WellReadHead: overwhelming in previous times, and while they that may be true on the surface.
WellReadHead: when the world was being run by teenagers and 25 year olds instead of 80 year Olds. It was a much more warlike place, and people forget that
BusySomethings: See, I don't think about that aspect. My 1st go to thought is, what could I change, or what could I help? Influence
WellReadHead: Nothing
BusySomethings: Then you don't know how that can make things either better or worse, so I don't know
Tallgirl6234: If you whack Genghis Khan, you take out like 50% of the population. So
Tallgirl6234: like, I mean, yeah, okay, you stop him from graping thousands of women, but you also eliminate 50% of the population in future. So like
WellReadHead: It's true that you. That's why I said, you can't change anything. Also, I think time is immutable.
WellReadHead: So even if you tried to change something. You wouldn't be able to
Tallgirl6234: Also people finding out their genetic line is not their genetic line like, Oh, I'll take out this guy. Oh, Crud! He's my great, great grandpappy, like
Tallgirl6234: mistakes were made
BusySomethings: Whomp whomp, shouldn't do that. Now I'm not here.
BusySomethings: I think that obviously time travel is a big thing in pop culture. You have
WellReadHead: Oh, yeah.
BusySomethings: Doctor doctor who back to the future Terminator outlander.
BusySomethings: So it's something I think, that people just gravitate towards. And maybe it is the escapism. Of
BusySomethings: what could I do if I had the capability to
BusySomethings: be a part of history, or watch or
BusySomethings: change it? What would I do
Tallgirl6234: I think part of it is Hollywood glorifies it. But there was a show in the Uk called lost in Austen.
Tallgirl6234: where
Tallgirl6234: she's like she works in a bank or something, and then she gets sent back, and she gets to be Jane. And it's like, and this is how somebody in modern day world would actually like.
Tallgirl6234: These are all the many micro mess-ups you would make
Tallgirl6234: just landing in Austen's life for a day
BusySomethings: But I think what was great about that was then.
BusySomethings: Elizabeth Bennett goes to modern day, and she is
BusySomethings: ends up finding she does quite well in there in modern time.
Tallgirl6234: Of course, had a brain
BusySomethings: I I know, but no surprise, I think, to anyone who
WellReadHead: whose read the books.
Tallgirl6234: Little surprising that she's crunchy like. Oh, we don't use microwaves like we shop at whole foods. I'm like no
BusySomethings: But that was the people she was babysitting for
Tallgirl6234: I know, but like
Tallgirl6234: I kind of wanted her like a like a spike in her chin, and like a Mohawk like, you know.
WellReadHead: Go get it!
BusySomethings: Gauges in her ear.
Tallgirl6234: Yeah.
BusySomethings: Alright. Well, we'll see if we can get that the next time around.
BusySomethings: So what do you think? I mean, we've talked about? You're saying, the escapism alternating the past.
Tallgirl6234: Talk about time. Travel like one of the things is like, if you change the past, you might not be able to get back to the future. So like you've changed it for the better. But like you've missed your window to get here so like
Tallgirl6234: you could find yourself either evaporating or you could find yourself stuck like great. I've just taken out, you know, like Genghis Khan.
Tallgirl6234: And now, standing in a field surrounded by a whole lot of pissed off soldiers
WellReadHead: But then you're entering a paradox, because if you never
WellReadHead: can get back to the time in which you made the decision to go back to time, back in time. In the 1st place.
WellReadHead: can you ever have changed the thing that you change to change the future?
WellReadHead: It's I know, that makes sense. But there was a lot of
WellReadHead: yes, there was a lot of wibbly, wobbly, timey-wimey stuff
BusySomethings: Timey wimey. Yeah.
Tallgirl6234: It's also like nobody ever is like, Oh, you know, I want to go. Be like the night shoveler, like everybody wants to be like Jane Austen, or they want to be like a ninja who takes out, like, you know, some evil person. Nobody would ever necessarily want to go back and be their ancestor, which is like, Oh, I'd like to watch them from a distance. I don't necessarily want to be beaten on a daily basis, like, you know.
BusySomethings: Oh, yeah, I have no like
BusySomethings: misunderstandings that, like my family back in the olden days, would be like low level, like probably peasant
WellReadHead: Peasantry
BusySomethings: Oh, no one of the things I think.
BusySomethings: awesome pop culture, the discovery of witches, one of the characters, or actually 2 of the characters are time travelers.
BusySomethings: and the one who goes back in time.
BusySomethings: He mentioned how he did it, and he just observed, I guess he might bring back a trinket back to the current time from that time. But he went to because he was, I think, an anthropologist. He went to just observe and to understand. I think
Tallgirl6234: Yeah. But still, you're like the creepy guy in the corner with a notebook like you creeped somebody out in history, even if you were just standing in the corner like
Tallgirl6234: you made somebody awkward
BusySomethings: I mean, that's fair. But I think that
BusySomethings: of the options with the themes of time travel that seems
BusySomethings: the the one with the least possibility of consequences. If you're not trying to alter everything and just be an observer
WellReadHead: To kind of be for a more pop culture. Reference to be more like the observers in Fringe
WellReadHead: you don't change anything, you just observe it. But then, again, you get into
WellReadHead: the nature of things does change by it being observed, scientifically speaking.
WellReadHead: So you get into paradoxes again. Time. Travel is complicated.
Tallgirl6234: There's also, like Biff from back to the future, if you could like, if you could bring back like and bet on every future sports outcome for the rest of your life, like
Tallgirl6234: people are human. If you could, you know, find Aladdin's cave, and you know.
Tallgirl6234: tuck a few gold bullion. Away for yourself
BusySomethings: Hmm.
Tallgirl6234: I forget. There was one some book I read once, like she told him to like hide gold cups under, like, you know, the the hearthstone, or something in a house that she knew was standing in her time. So then she picked them up. Later it was like
Tallgirl6234: you could technically like, become the greatest archaeologist ever, because you would literally know where to look for
WellReadHead: Where the bodies are buried, you would know
BusySomethings: So if you had the ability to time, travel.
BusySomethings: First.st
BusySomethings: Are you going to the past? Are you going to the future?
Tallgirl6234: If you go to the future, can you get back if there is no future
Tallgirl6234: like you there? And you go to 9,000,006,
Tallgirl6234: and there's like it's just you sitting in a void in the middle of space. Can you be like? Oh, go back, rewind
BusySomethings: Hmm that I guess I don't know
Tallgirl6234: Because it assumes we're here, and it assumes we're some kind of like modern Jetson City in the sky. But, like.
Tallgirl6234: you know, sometimes GPS takes you to the end of a dead end, and you're like now, what
Tallgirl6234: rerouting
BusySomethings: Does not compute.
Tallgirl6234: Like. It's very nice view of the galaxy. I'm running out of. Oxygen.
Tallgirl6234: Didn't necessarily wear a space suit on this trip.
BusySomethings: Alright. Well, let's say this, let's say, for the sake of this conversation, if you put in a time
BusySomethings: that
BusySomethings: is so in the future. That it doesn't exist like where you are asking to go does no, no.
BusySomethings: no longer exists in the future.
WellReadHead: You'd have to get so specific about your request, though, because time is immutable. So
WellReadHead: it's a as a universal invariant time will always exist.
WellReadHead: It exists outside of us.
WellReadHead: So you'd have to get very specific about
WellReadHead: where in human history you wanted to go. And if you, if there were no humans around. If, like the apes have taken over, or something like that, the elephants have have killed us all.
WellReadHead: Then you you are prevented from going there, or something like that.
BusySomethings: But
WellReadHead: All of the the variables in that scenario are messy
Tallgirl6234: I mean, it would be lovely to be like, Okay, I'm going to go on this girls vacation and then hop to like 2 days after girls vacation to check in on yourself like. Was this an emotionally sound decision?
WellReadHead: Yes.
Tallgirl6234: Like to bounce short, term forward to be like, what is the outcome? But then, also you wouldn't go. You wouldn't, do.
Tallgirl6234: you know, like to constantly turn down invitations, I mean, yes. Would you turn down an invitation to Titanic?
Tallgirl6234: Or at least bring a life vest? More than likely.
Tallgirl6234: But you're also the person on the Titanic wearing a life vest.
Tallgirl6234: People are going to have questions
BusySomethings: Witch, see. This is why you would be considered a witch
Tallgirl6234: I,
WellReadHead: Okay.
Tallgirl6234: Would I bring an N. 95 to the medieval age? Yes.
WellReadHead: When I bring a cat to the medieval age. That's what I would do
Tallgirl6234: Hmm.
WellReadHead: They killed. That's the reason the bubonic plague happened. They killed all the cats because of witchcraft, and then the rats overran everything because there was nothing to eat the rats, and then
WellReadHead: the plague
Tallgirl6234: Wasn't just rats, it was hamsters or something, right. Chirpals
WellReadHead: Rodents in general can carry it.
WellReadHead: People weren't keeping hamsters or gerbil as pets yet. I don't think so.
Tallgirl6234: There was something that they're responsible for. Oh, I should pay more attention. But yeah.
WellReadHead: I mean.
WellReadHead: but you also have to wonder about the consequences of being able to travel into the future and knowing your own future like knowing this thing will work out for me, or will not work out for me. What path will I choose? Will I still continue to walk down the same path
WellReadHead: as I might have chosen if I were not
WellReadHead: cognizant of what was going to occur in the future, like, Okay, great. If I, 20 years from now I I visit myself in the future, and I'm a millionaire. Fantastic!
WellReadHead: I- would I come back to the present day and
WellReadHead: not choose the path that would make me a millionaire. Choose the path of least resistance, because I know I'd be happy in some respect.
Tallgirl6234: The question like, if you knew what day you were gonna die like, what would you do with it? Like you see your gravestone?
Tallgirl6234: It's going to forever alter how you go back and live your life
WellReadHead: Yep.
Tallgirl6234: But knowing that, no matter what you do, you kind of can't change it.
BusySomethings: I think I would want to go to the day after
WellReadHead: the day after you died?
Tallgirl6234: Do you want to creep out your funeral and see who really loves you?
BusySomethings: You know I don't. Wanna I don't know. I
BusySomethings: I've never been one who kind of liked the idea of like
BusySomethings: living forever or anything like, I think the only reason, I think I never fear death so much as just understanding that for me it's about not being able to be there for loved ones.
BusySomethings: But I would want to see.
BusySomethings: maybe the day after or so to see how I could better prepare loved ones
Tallgirl6234: For my departure.
WellReadHead: Ah, but is that your emotional burden to shoulder?
Tallgirl6234: But also, like you're gone, no matter how many post-its you leave us, you're gone like we're we're not. Gonna oh, oh, she gave us a binder. We're not sad, she's gone. She left us a binder. All is good
BusySomethings: Well, no, okay, let's let's say this like sometimes they're not even just emotional. But maybe it's
BusySomethings: something I didn't think of like preparing
WellReadHead: Didn't get to write your will, or something like that.
BusySomethings: Something like that, I mean, I think we've all seen you know, loved ones in our lives pass. And now we're dealing with
BusySomethings: the estates and everything afterwards. How could I better adjust that?
BusySomethings: I don't know that someone that would be of interest. I don't think I would want to go way, too, in the future.
BusySomethings: I don't know. Like the idea of like
BusySomethings: traveling in space easily, maybe like little Jetson-esque, but I don't know
WellReadHead: The the planet's gonna get us before we get to outer space 100%
BusySomethings: What do you think you would choose as a modes of traveling
Tallgirl6234: Like ruby heels?
WellReadHead: As far as to get to the past
BusySomethings: Like, are you using a Tardis? Are we going with like
WellReadHead: Oh, yeah, time and relative dimension in space. 100%
BusySomethings: Yeah. What was it in? Back to the future? The Delorean
WellReadHead: Delorean.
Tallgirl6234: Delorean. Ruby slippers like I want to be blingy
BusySomethings: That's nice.
Tallgirl6234: You don't forget them. They're going to be with you.
BusySomethings: True, you know, depend on any types of fuel or energy source that's smart
WellReadHead: I like the idea of a TARDIS because it can carry important things with you.
WellReadHead: So like historical costumes and clothing.
WellReadHead: Any implements that you might need to like. Live your life.
WellReadHead: It would stick out, though
BusySomethings: Which leads me.
WellReadHead: Medieval Europe, which would lead me to get burnt as a witch
Tallgirl6234: I'm going to say, like you leave a tardis in the middle of the field. Somebody's gonna camp in that you come back. You want to go home, and they're just going to be like, no, I live here now.
WellReadHead: Well, it's got a lock
Tallgirl6234: Oh, yeah, because I'm sure they're thinking, oh, she's a witch, but I should respect her deadbolt
BusySomethings: Well, that was gonna kind of you talking about Tardis, my next point to that. Besides, how you travel there, what are you doing to prepare for travel?
Tallgirl6234: How many vaccines can my body take at one time
WellReadHead: Correct.
Tallgirl6234: They have things that have been eradicated that we haven't been exposed to so like
Tallgirl6234: your 1st day could be your last
Tallgirl6234: also can't eat hardly anything when you're there.
Tallgirl6234: So like, pack a handy snack
Tallgirl6234: like. I mean to go back in history to some of the greatest meals ever, and know that you can't put your lips on a single fork, because, like everything is probably gonna like, make you
Tallgirl6234: slide into home while something foams
BusySomethings: That is a lovely expression, so delicate
WellReadHead: Gross
Tallgirl6234: But I mean it's true like oh, I would love to go back to, I'm like, but that was the time when people dumped their waste out of their window into the street.
WellReadHead: Guardez-loo.
Tallgirl6234: Oh, I would like oh, I would take a lover in 14th century, whatever like. Do you know how many times a month or a year he would have bathed like
Tallgirl6234: your modern sense of smell is not built for back then
Tallgirl6234: When I was little we used to go to the Metropolitan Museum, and they have the armory where they have all those like, you know suits of armor, and whatever. I didn't go back in that wing for years, and at that point I walked in once, and I was 6 feet tall and even with the suit of armor up on a ledge. I walked in at 6 feet tall, and I was like, oh, they were like pygmies like I show up in medieval England, and I am Andre, the giant to the land of the Lilliputians like.
Tallgirl6234: Oh, they're gonna notice me. I'm not blending.
Tallgirl6234: That's not even a little
BusySomethings: Yep, that's also why you're gonna be burned as a witch. You're gonna be a sorcerer, you're gonna be.
BusySomethings: you know. You talk to the devil. You are clearly witchcraft, you are unnatural.
WellReadHead: Can predict the future
BusySomethings: Burn.
Tallgirl6234: Although you could do the what's it? A Connecticut Yankee, and like, make sure there's an eclipse coming to be like Wiggy, Wiggy, Woogie Woogie like I make the sun disappear. Don't mess with me
Tallgirl6234: like travel back on the day of an eclipse, just to like. Buy yourself a little bit of a
Tallgirl6234: don't mess with me. I know the sky
BusySomethings: I know.
BusySomethings: So if you had
BusySomethings: for things looking at eras in different times, let's go to the back, the past, because obviously we can discuss that a little bit easier.
BusySomethings: Where do you think you would jump to if you had to pick one place to go to?
BusySomethings: Okay, this is going to sound weird because I'm not religious. But I would go back to see if the whole Jesus thing was real.
WellReadHead: Yeah.
Tallgirl6234: Cause, like
WellReadHead: That's one thing I would do.
Tallgirl6234: Definitively, am I right or wrong, or like who was? Because there must have been somebody like. There's enough historical people that speak about it. There must have been somebody like, what were they really like? Versus like, what is Jesus?
Tallgirl6234: Because then it can be like, Okay, you know, he was, or he wasn't kind of thing.
Tallgirl6234: but like for 2 days, maybe I'll like sit in the Sermon of the Mount and be like yo that was inspiring. I am now going to actually pay attention to religion, but like
Tallgirl6234: to figure out how the Pyramids were built. I'm good
WellReadHead: I think I would definitely keep to times when women had more freedoms so like Celtic Ireland, or ancient Egypt, was another one where
Tallgirl6234: Ancient Egypt is a
WellReadHead: Women had the right to like divorce their husbands and run businesses and have their own money and stuff like that.
WellReadHead: Because I think it would be less culture, Shocky
BusySomethings: That makes sense.
WellReadHead: And
Tallgirl6234: I want to see what Cleopatra looks like, because really, if she inspired all that like
WellReadHead: She was not beautiful, she was just incredibly clever
Tallgirl6234: Know, but I want to know what she has
Tallgirl6234: like. I want to see like what is it that she owns a room that people are like. Yep, I would slaughter an entire nation for you, Lady
WellReadHead: She was just incredibly clever, and apparently very intense
WellReadHead: fun. Fact. We are closer to Cleopatra than we are than the dinosaur, or I'm sorry Cleopatra is closer to McDonald's
WellReadHead: than the dinosaurs are to the pyramids of Giza.
Tallgirl6234: Oh, you're right!
WellReadHead: Okay.
BusySomethings: Can you not blow my mind? I know I've heard it
Tallgirl6234: This is why, on vacation I'm like, don't bring facts
BusySomethings: And I know I've heard that before, but like I was not ready in this moment to hear something like that, and push my thinking
BusySomethings: on a weekend to just
WellReadHead: Speaking of time, travel.
BusySomethings: Oh, I don't know. I think that
BusySomethings: I always having such an interest when I was a child of like ancient Egypt, ancient Greece!
BusySomethings: More Greece in Egypt than Rome, and just understanding and seeing
BusySomethings: what these cultures were doing, what was going on
WellReadHead: I think there was a lot more
WellReadHead: interactivity between the cultures that we know about. I think I think, like
WellReadHead: the Mayans and the ancient Egyptians may complete 2 completely different time frames, but, like
WellReadHead: proto-mayan civilizations, whoever came before the Mayans and ancient Egypt, I think they probably knew about each other
BusySomethings: I also want to see. Like.
BusySomethings: you know, we look at things now, and I'm just like who was the 1st person to think.
BusySomethings: If I take this stone, and I hit it with another stone, and it makes a spark
BusySomethings: that could be
WellReadHead: Fire.
BusySomethings: Yeah, how like I wanna see, at those moments when
BusySomethings: those kind of inventions inventions came about like, I sit there. I'm like
WellReadHead: Like the 1st human to tame a wolf
BusySomethings: Right have we go from Wolf in the pack to
BusySomethings: the dogs? Getting, you know, manicures and like that sort of stuff is, it's always interesting to me where things like who thought first, st
BusySomethings: take this wheat, this this plant.
BusySomethings: Take this apart, you know you have to. You know, especially things that are broken down so much in it in order for it to be used
BusySomethings: for consumption like, how do we think
BusySomethings: you know what if you keep grinding at this, or if you soak this and then make you have food that you can eat like that kind of stuff is just so
BusySomethings: to me that, I think would be cool to see how like those sparks of
WellReadHead: The beginning of human evolution
BusySomethings: Yes.
Tallgirl6234: The 1st person who looked at an oyster and went like I am hungry
BusySomethings: That that could be you. I'm not about that life so
Tallgirl6234: No, but I mean, there's got to be a point in what you're like. Oh, okay, well, the seagulls eat it like it's got to be okay. But also, like the 1st person who is like guys, I tried this thing. That's like, Snot, you got to try it. It's just life changing
WellReadHead: The the fun thing about that is that
WellReadHead: that happened really, really early in our history, like we were closer to apes than we were to modern human beings. I'm gonna blow your mind again, when we started eating
WellReadHead: fish and shellfish. That's the reason that our brains got as big as they did was because we started eating
WellReadHead: Omega 3 fatty acids and our brains developed at an accelerated rate as a result of it.
WellReadHead: So yeah, going back and seeing like which which of our ancestors were like, screw bananas? I want fish.
WellReadHead: How that happened would be really cool.
WellReadHead: to be able to be there, and to be
WellReadHead: not only to just observe what happened, but also
WellReadHead: to be unaffected by it.
WellReadHead: except on, maybe in an emotional and humanitarian level.
WellReadHead: to to not be subject to the diseases or things that were to not be eaten by a lion. While you're busy watching your ancestor eat some fish for the 1st time
BusySomethings: If not friend, why, friend shaped, though
WellReadHead: Murder kitties. Weeeee
Tallgirl6234: I mean, if we're talking like ancient Roman Greece, to try the original Worcestershire sauce, which we have no like full recipe, for, like Worcestershire sauce is based off the idea of, but like
Tallgirl6234: to be able to taste an original, or you know they eat species that don't exist anymore. You you can't see a dodo bird. The only reference we have are paintings
Tallgirl6234: to see a dodo bird in nature before people are like. Oh, this is pretty. I shall stuff and mount
BusySomethings: To see, you know, maybe certain land
BusySomethings: land masses, or before they were destroyed
WellReadHead: Oh, I'd love to see, uh people lived in the area between England and Europe.
WellReadHead: What is now the Channel? The English Channel?
WellReadHead: There was actual civilization there during one of the
WellReadHead: ice ages, because the glaciers were so large they sucked up all the water in that area, and it was marshland so people could farm people could raise animals in there, and I'd love to see that that would be cool
Tallgirl6234: Not to see the Grand Canyon as the ocean, I mean, like
WellReadHead: Yeah. The Sahara is the ocean as an ocean
BusySomethings: See how people decided we're migrating. We're going northeast instead of northwest.
BusySomethings: and like seeing how you know that what caused them to do that? Or how did people split and say, All right, we're going this way. You go that way.
BusySomethings: Kind of
Tallgirl6234: See a floofy dinosaur and fluorescent pink feathers
WellReadHead: Yes.
Tallgirl6234: Like just to know that a T-rex is probably just a flamingo, and like
BusySomethings: Again, if not friend, why friend shaped
Tallgirl6234: But also you come back, and you're like, I know what a dinosaur with like with feathers looks like, and nobody's going to believe you
BusySomethings: Or or I know what a dinosaur actually sounds like
WellReadHead: It sounds like my pterodactyl call, and I refuse to accept any other
BusySomethings: Fantastic.
Tallgirl6234: I mean. I think it's like to be in the room where it happened like to watch the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
WellReadHead: Yeah.
BusySomethings: But, like, you know, would you want to see a beheading at the French Revolution? Would you want to see a gladiator fight a lion like
Tallgirl6234: Cool to see it, but also like terrifying like. I don't want to see gladiators battling to the death
BusySomethings: What kind of. And I think we've kind of touched on this.
BusySomethings: Do you feel that there would be any?
BusySomethings: You're given this gift of time travel?
BusySomethings: How do you maybe reconcile or decide change in certain like horrific
BusySomethings: events in life, in history that went over generations and and decades like, do you cause? I think.
BusySomethings: as we're talking like the thought as I'm hearing is, some of this is kind of
BusySomethings: logical, but a bit romanticized.
Tallgirl6234: But if you are given this opportunity.
BusySomethings: Do you go back and find a way to stop?
BusySomethings: You know slavery, you you know. What do you
Tallgirl6234: Well like which slavery, because slavery has kind of existed from the dawn like. So like you also have to then pick like which genocide do I stop? But also, then, like
Tallgirl6234: history, is written by the victors, so like is it more important to go back and get the right historical story like
Tallgirl6234: they were slaughtered. They're no longer here. Here's what happened to the Mayans kind of thing. But like.
Tallgirl6234: is it better to bring their story forward? So at least their story exists, or to stop the thing.
Tallgirl6234: the world would be fundamentally different if the Mayans had stayed, and like, been able to defend themselves
BusySomethings: And that's the point for for the content. I was saying I was I was referring to, for, like America.
BusySomethings: the the slavery mostly, you know and done in slave America, though I recognize it's
BusySomethings: pretty much been everywhere in cultures.
BusySomethings: But I mean like, that's something too like.
BusySomethings: do you? How do you? I don't know. It's just a very
Tallgirl6234: But, like leave the Americans to the indigenous, and, like, you know.
Tallgirl6234: make sure that Columbus never lands, not in America.
BusySomethings: I mean, there's that like, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like all these little things
WellReadHead: I think probably the easiest thing to do would be
WellReadHead: to jump back to recent history
WellReadHead: and try to change something there as opposed to the further back you jump the farther, reaching the repercussions right?
WellReadHead: So if you jumped back to the nineties and stopped the evolution of the far right.
WellReadHead: could that be done?
Tallgirl6234: That's also assuming you could like, what are you going to do? Get on, Cnn. And be like I've seen the future. It's not going to go well for us.
Tallgirl6234: You have to. You can take out one person and maybe alter history
Tallgirl6234: to sway the masses, to be like, wash your hands, and your kids will live longer, like, you know. That's
Tallgirl6234: you know, leeches aren't the thing like leeches are the thing. But don't bleed a woman who's just given birth, like
Tallgirl6234: it's not just telling one person you'd have to tell, like everybody and undo their belief in modern science of bleeding. It
WellReadHead: Somehow affect the collective, unconscious, to to believe in germs and not magic
Tallgirl6234: Well, man, it's also. Is it fate, or is it human like, even if you went in and we took out like Hitler.
Tallgirl6234: would somebody else. Hitler, S. Just rise 2 years later and do essentially the same thing slightly, very
WellReadHead: Oh, you, Paul, pot! Right?
WellReadHead: So. Yes, other people have done similar things. The chicken and egg theory
WellReadHead: is like, what what event do you stop to stop the the event that you want to stop
Tallgirl6234: Like, I mean, okay, you can uninvent boats that way. People are landlocked. So like nobody really travels. So America never gets discovered. But like
Tallgirl6234: that also makes people landlocked. So we probably won't have half the inventions and technology we have now, because a lot of that came from the cross mixing of cultures like
Tallgirl6234: American barbecue only exists because we had slave culture brought into America. So like.
Tallgirl6234: it's an entire section of food alone that doesn't exist because you didn't bring 6 different tribes together.
Tallgirl6234: I mean not to save barbecue. But like, if those people didn't come together at that time, like if we weren't farming for peanuts, we wouldn't have figured out a machine that helped farm for them. So like if we weren't
Tallgirl6234: the cotton gin probably wouldn't exist if we weren't milling cotton at that rate and level.
Tallgirl6234: It's only because we were doing things on such an industrial scale that we had to kind of like up our technology game. Otherwise we would have just still been operating on looms
Tallgirl6234: like as bad as it is
WellReadHead: It was a toss so like that way
Tallgirl6234: Look, you could argue that it would be much better if we were all just like a
Tallgirl6234: farm kind of existence, but also
Tallgirl6234: half of us wouldn't be here. We would have died in infancy from, you know, falling down a well, and snake bites
BusySomethings: Now let's take the flip side of some of this, I mean, and that's not the easiest of transition. I was just saying there, if
BusySomethings: we went back in time.
BusySomethings: we're not changing anything there else to say. What would you miss from modern technology or life
WellReadHead: My e-reader access to all that knowledge.
WellReadHead: healthcare, such as it is.
BusySomethings: I think you have to, even with the Eread, to go further down to like electricity.
WellReadHead: Oh, yeah.
BusySomethings: Let's go real basic
Tallgirl6234: Well, I mean, my transportation is great that I've just been dropped in medieval England. I now have to walk a hundred miles to go see what I planned on seeing, because, you know, I was slightly off in my geography
BusySomethings: You know the transportation
Tallgirl6234: All forms of sanitation, just all forms of sanitation.
WellReadHead: Accurate.
Tallgirl6234: It's like camping for a few days, and then it's just like, - no, no.
WellReadHead: So no pre-roman times for you with the aqueducts
Tallgirl6234: I mean cool to see it.
Tallgirl6234: to sit in your house one day, and so by
Tallgirl6234: handle light, and then get gas lamps installed. The next must have been like so cool to be there to see something like
Tallgirl6234: during the industrial age to go from, you know, candlelight and wagons to cars and gas lights. Like, you know, our generation has seen, you know, like no technology to like.
Tallgirl6234: we have a podcast people around the world, can hear our podcast kind of thing, like.
Tallgirl6234: we live in such amazing times. But at the beginning of it, like, we don't find it extraordinary that podcasts happen. We just accept that technology does more things.
Tallgirl6234: But to go from a time when you didn't have a wheel to having a wheel to making the difference in your life must have been like.
Tallgirl6234: Oh, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen, like the 1st guy who figured out how to make fire and not just wait for lightning to happen. To strike the ground on some dry leaves must have been like, I have the power of the universe.
Tallgirl6234: I make fire.
Tallgirl6234: You know that guy didn't shut up in the cave all winter.
BusySomethings: No, no! He was using it to get laid.
Tallgirl6234: Like there, there's no way he didn't just tell everybody the yearly festival
WellReadHead: Oh, man!
WellReadHead: It was much more likely a woman
Tallgirl6234: I know. But guess who took credit for it.
Tallgirl6234: I am sure there is a wall painting that, you know, like
Tallgirl6234: she's sitting there making a fire, and he's talking to the crowd.
Tallgirl6234: Fiyah!
BusySomethings: It's all Tada
Tallgirl6234: I mean, if you could rewrite history to the like truthful history, if you could. You know
Tallgirl6234: the real history book versus you know the
Tallgirl6234: rewritten history book would be a very fascinating read
WellReadHead: That's true.
WellReadHead: That's true.
Tallgirl6234: And we constantly trip over civilizations we didn't even know existed. And we're like, Oh, look! They had a pyramid in the middle of the rainforest. We didn't even know that was a thing
BusySomethings: Or even recently, with Act, the Pyramids in
BusySomethings: Egypt. What they're finding underneath them
WellReadHead: Aliens.
Tallgirl6234: Another episode.
BusySomethings: But yeah, I mean you, you just find things or
Tallgirl6234: I mean.
Tallgirl6234: Figure out how they built the Pyramids, though, because there's so much speculation, there's that little like 10 sided die with little knobs on it they found in like ancient Rome.
Tallgirl6234: They think it's either like a knitting thing or to measure on a map, but like there's an object in history that, like no 2 historians can agree on
Tallgirl6234: to be able to like, find out like, what the hell did you guys use that for?
BusySomethings: Yeah, I mean
BusySomethings: that sort of stuff. I think that kind of goes back to the point. I'm saying, like figuring out when certain things were created, or
BusySomethings: how they were done, like, what exactly does this mean?
BusySomethings: Or, you know, puzzles that you might see
BusySomethings: like was was Mona Lisa actually smiling
BusySomethings: like, tell us the truth, like what's going on here
Tallgirl6234: So many paintings do not look like the original, so like.
Tallgirl6234: although if David does exist
Tallgirl6234: I can understand it with a cause of commotion.
BusySomethings: So we have electricity, medicine, anything else that we feel
Tallgirl6234: If we can travel back with like modern conveniences, like anything I could take on a current camping trip. Would I love to park an Rv. Somewhere in like Renaissance and be like, okay, I'd love to observe you guys. But also go back to my Rv. With my solar panels. And you know my like high speed Internet, like.
Tallgirl6234: sure
BusySomethings: Where are you gonna connect the Internet to? There's no Internet
Tallgirl6234: My hopes and imagination for the fact that time travel is real. I'm sure I could figure out how to get Wi-fi to travel with me
BusySomethings: I didn't say you created time travel. I'm just saying it was. You have the opportunity to use it.
Tallgirl6234: I mean, let's just give me credit. If somebody's going to invent it, it will clearly be me
BusySomethings: Obviously
Tallgirl6234: It's what I do in my free time.
BusySomethings: If I get one more late night mapping of
Tallgirl6234: I think I bet the laws of physics
WellReadHead: Einstein's Twin Paradox.
BusySomethings: Oh, Jesus, your plans! And then she goes on her ramblings about physics and time, and
BusySomethings: it's like, Oh, my God! We go to bed. It's 3 in the morning.
Tallgirl6234: That's when the other group chat is like, Oh, my, God, why, did we make friends with her
BusySomethings: Yes, that's great.
Tallgirl6234: Next girl who walks up to us and is like, I'm going to invent time travel, we say no, we say no
BusySomethings: We? We reject her. We point at her. We call her a witch.
BusySomethings: We move about our day
Tallgirl6234: Like, have you seen Doctor? Who or do you think you'll eventually be, doctor who like we just we need to know
BusySomethings: That could be a bit lonely if you think about like going to the doctor like I mean, I know that's part of the theme of the show.
BusySomethings: is it? But just like traveling through all these things and times
BusySomethings: also, also, like in the discovery, which is like the one character being a vampire, obviously lived long, and all that, and seeing people that you are friends with
BusySomethings: come and go and die like I don't know, like there's certain things that are just so
BusySomethings: overwhelmed to think if it was actually possible, would you do it?
Tallgirl6234: If you are guaranteed to live through it.
Tallgirl6234: and all you had to put up with was grief.
Tallgirl6234: Is it a worthy like
Tallgirl6234: you can travel anywhere. You won't die. You can experience all these things. A future cocktail parties you can make reference to like, yeah, Ben Franklin. He was my Buddy.
Tallgirl6234: but all you have to do is continuously lose people every 40 to 50 years for the rest of your life.
Tallgirl6234: Is it a fair trade-off?
Tallgirl6234: You can walk through the plague and not get sick, but you'll have to fake getting sick in order to blend in
WellReadHead: That's a topic for another episode
BusySomethings: This is why people don't take car rides with me. This could go for hours
WellReadHead: We love car rides with you.
BusySomethings: We just end up. We just keep. We pass where our exit was. We just keep driving
Tallgirl6234: It does happen occasionally.
Tallgirl6234: but then sometimes we find abandoned graveyards and just go, you know, looking through the headstones, and it works out so
Tallgirl6234: a happy little time traveling accident would be the same. Oh, we just we ended up in Victorian England like oh, what a shame! It was terrible
BusySomethings: Well, I think that we've kind of exhausted not well, we could probably go on this for a while. You can keep.
BusySomethings: What if? What if? What if, and
BusySomethings: the responsibilities, how it changes things
Tallgirl6234: Okay. Question if you could go back not to wrap this up. But if you could go back to the book version of history and not real history. Would you be more likely to travel
WellReadHead: Nope.
BusySomethings: Oh!
Tallgirl6234: Like the romance novel version of Like, you know, he accepts a woman's like allowed to have
WellReadHead: That's that's different.
BusySomethings: Wait, and it also depends on whose textbook we're talking about here.
Tallgirl6234: Pick a book. If you could do time, travel the way of like outlander, would you
BusySomethings: Oh!
WellReadHead: No.
Tallgirl6234: All right.
BusySomethings: I don't know what about you.
Tallgirl6234: No, because I would just be maddled like no, you're supposed to stone me to death right now like this is not how it's supposed to be.
Tallgirl6234: You're historically inaccurate. Get with it!
Tallgirl6234: I demand. You burn me at the stake the way I should be for being a witch
BusySomethings: Like she both is making too much sense, so we must burn her. But we
Tallgirl6234: Heart rate a woman in Victorian England like hell. No
BusySomethings: I mean all right.
BusySomethings: You clearly have very strong opinions about that.
Tallgirl6234: I mean, unless I can
Tallgirl6234: somehow take over for Anne Shirley and Anna Green Gables, and if Gilbert can be mine then yes.
WellReadHead: Will fight you for that one
Tallgirl6234: Every day for the rest of my life, like I take it back. All my answers I take back, if I can actually not only time travel, but assume the the person
WellReadHead: Of Anne Shirley.
WellReadHead: Hmm
BusySomethings: And but then you have to deal with the heartbreak of Matthew
Tallgirl6234: It's a fictional character.
BusySomethings: You just put yourself in the book
WellReadHead: If you assume the identity of the character that means, you will feel all the characters, feelings regardless
BusySomethings: That's right.
BusySomethings: You don't get to pick and choose. Here
WellReadHead: No, you will. You will lose Matthew. You will lose Marilla
Tallgirl6234: I will jump into the Megan Follows Anne of Green Gables movie to end up specifically with that, Gilbert. I will deal with the heartache of everything, plus the brown sugar for that
BusySomethings: Look, I have the brown sugar happening in life my now.
BusySomethings: I
WellReadHead: 20 pounds of brown sugar.
BusySomethings: I it, it.
Tallgirl6234: 30 years of your life with Marilla and Mrs. Lynd like it's worth it. It's worth it
WellReadHead: 100% 100%
BusySomethings: So we've we've gone from time travel to
Tallgirl6234: Fictional travel will choose.
Tallgirl6234: Don't travel over time, travel
BusySomethings: Okay, hmm, if we're doing it that way.
BusySomethings: I don't know, because there, I just feel that.
BusySomethings: Are we traveling the time? Are we assuming the character.
BusySomethings: how they are in the book? Or are we
Tallgirl6234: You have to live out the book.
Tallgirl6234: and then they lived happily ever after.
BusySomethings: Because if if current me went back, I'm afraid current me's lack of filter
Tallgirl6234: No, you like. If you inhabited, you know, like Elizabeth Bennett's body, you would be Elizabeth Bennett, just kind of like.
Tallgirl6234: Self-aware
BusySomethings: That's probably a smart option for me or
Tallgirl6234: You would know which spoon to use. You would know how to curtsy. You would hate Mr. Darcy for at least a couple chapters.
Tallgirl6234: or at least
BusySomethings: Alright. What about you, Red? Based on
BusySomethings: this description, is a honey book.
BusySomethings: Fictional time travel. We're allowed to do
WellReadHead: I don't know. I think
WellReadHead: you guys took both of my greatest hits. If I if we were allowed to time, travel into an historical novel.
BusySomethings: It would be something with space.
Tallgirl6234: If we can bend all the laws of physics and fiction, there can be 2 concurrent, and Shirley's living with Gilbert Blythe, of like
Tallgirl6234: Vhs versus DVD. Come on like we can make this happen
BusySomethings: Parallel universe.
BusySomethings: Maybe Anne is a redhead in the the one that we know, and maybe
BusySomethings: she she's blonde in another. I don't know. But right, I'm just trying to.
BusySomethings: We're bending time and physics here. Just let them be
Tallgirl6234: And fiction.
WellReadHead: And fiction.
BusySomethings: I I see you with more science driven kind of fiction
WellReadHead: I'd end up in dune. Maybe I don't know
Tallgirl6234: Cool, you would eyes
WellReadHead: One of the bene gesserit
BusySomethings: There you go!
WellReadHead: I love. I love little nerdy moment here the fact that the transcript knew bene gesserit.
WellReadHead: It's spelled it correctly.
BusySomethings: Add tip to that
Tallgirl6234: I mean, I think this is a sign from above that if you ever get a moment to jump into a fictional book, this is yours, like
WellReadHead: A 100%
Tallgirl6234: This also protects. Anne Shirley so like, you know, for personal self fiction, future interests
Tallgirl6234: kind of happy. We don't have to literary fight
BusySomethings: You know, the sadness to that is, we wouldn't have to fight over the books or the stories that we're in, but we wouldn't be together
WellReadHead: Wouldn't know each other. That's true. Is Gilbert worth all that
Tallgirl6234: Yes, what? The fuck
BusySomethings: What? The fuck I didn't know the feeling of a knife through my chest would feel so sharp and fast. But
BusySomethings: oh, okay.
WellReadHead: Little did you know that you would laugh at it?
BusySomethings: Oh, it's always the one you always expect. I thought it was funny, apparently not friend shape
Tallgirl6234: Anne Shirley shaped to
Tallgirl6234: Be accurate.
BusySomethings: That's fine! That's fine. I enjoy getting stabbed and bleeding out
Tallgirl6234: This was our last podcast maybe we should go back, you know, 30 min in the past, and
BusySomethings: Not say that. Yeah, that's a great idea. Let's do that.
Tallgirl6234: Oh!
WellReadHead: And that's a wrap on today's episode. Join us next time when we discuss the 20th anniversary of 2005 version of Pride and Prejudice
Tallgirl6234: If you enjoy this subscribe, leave a review, or at least tell a friend who also finds themselves in a cringeworthy situation on a regular basis.
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WellReadHead: See you next time
Tallgirl6234: Until then stay sensible.
BusySomethings: Or embrace the chaos
WellReadHead: Preferably both
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