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Chesko: [00:00:00] Hi

Regan: everyone. I'm not doing, no, don't. I'm doing the intro. Why

Chesko: I wasn't even doing anything this time. I know this happens. I think now you, maybe internally you want me to mess up.

Regan: I was starting the podcast and you started talking, started

Chesko: laughing for no reason.

Regan: I don't have to explain myself to you. That would've been cut out of the podcast, but now I would have a

Chesko: very, I'm an innocent.

Human being. Oh, who has a face that his mother loves?

Regan: Okay, I'm not your journal. JustCo, please

Chesko: uh, go on anyways.

Regan: Hey friends. Welcome to the

Chesko: What up.

Regan: Stop. Welcome to the Mr Pick, me and the Man Hater podcast. I am Reagan a k the man hater, even though I don't hate men. Hey,

Chesko: Reagan,

Regan: and you are. Driving, not me crazy.

Chesko: I am checo Mr. Pick me who's already been picked.

Regan: And also fun fact, for everyone [00:01:00] listening, it is literally storming really bad at my house. So if you hear thunder, that is why.

Chesko: It's 94 degrees at my house.

Regan: Thanks Jessica. Thanks for bragging.

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: So friends, today we have what, like a a SA grab bag. SBO

Chesko: bag, yeah.

Smorgasbord. I like that better. We have a pinata of of videos that we're gonna whack open and see what falls out theme song.

Theme Song: You want bad advice, man. I'll give it out. Glad you, I got some good advice for you. No you don't. I know you don't. I got some good advice for you. No, you don't. I know you don't. Shit,

Regan: I love when you ran randomly.

Get that perfect, uh, pronunciation, pinata.

Chesko: I'm like the, uh, the newscaster that, that the old joke. Welcome everybody. [00:02:00] Today we're gonna see what's going on Inua, and we're going to see.

Regan: That would a hundred percent be you.

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: You better be careful. You're gonna lose your white boy presumption if you pronounce things correctly.

Chesko: That is, it is funny though. That's my, uh, my students when I'm pronouncing their names, uh, is like, I'll, I still not a, I'm, I've gotten much better over with names 'cause I spend time before the semester learning them. Um, but I always pronounce the Latino names correctly with the correct nce and like, they're always like, wait a second, are you are, is it.

And they're like, professor. I'm like, right. I thought it, I heard the way you said my name. And I was like, that's not a white boy saying

Regan: you're not like the, the guys at the restaurant like, can I please get an enchilada,

Chesko: quesadilla,

Regan: od, God? I don't know. Which is worse when they pronounce, like blatantly mispronounce it or try so hard to pronounce it.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. That

Regan: it's, but [00:03:00] it's still wrong.

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: Huh.

Chesko: Anyway. Good for

Regan: thought anyways. All right, Chico, what will our first video be today?

Chesko: So this, this first one I think is really funny.

Regan: So this is a recording from a court case where there a woman is the judge and a man is the lawyer speaking to said judge and it goes awry.

I would say

Chesko: it I A little bit,

Regan: A little bit. A little bit. All right. Here we go. Oof. I can't keep it together. Yeah. Three

Theme Song: separate. Okay. But it

Clip: wasn't three separate. I know, but let's go with what happened in the case.

Theme Song: But, but honey, or, oh my God. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, your Honor. That, that, that, I don't know what to say to that.

I apologize.

Clip: Okay, go ahead.

Theme Song: Um, the, the question here is what happened? I'm sorry, I've just been totally thrown by my mistake. Yeah,

Clip: I can imagine My mistake. I can imagine. I'm a little thrown by that also, if I'm being honest.

Theme Song: Your Honor, I, [00:04:00] I don't know what to say. It's just a

Clip: Okay, well, go ahead. You've only got a minute and seven seconds left.

Um,

Theme Song: the, the question here,

Regan: what

the first comment is me calling my teacher, mom?

Chesko: Yes, that's exactly what I thought of. I think that's the most innocent under the, if you're going to, if you're gonna give this guy the most benefit, the doubt of the doubt, it's, it's, he was just in his head and he calls his wife honey. He was having a conversation.

I, no, no, I, I know that's not what I, I wanna be clear that's not what I believe happened. But if you wanna give the most innocent viewing of this, it's calling your teacher mom. No. Right. It's, it's

Regan: no, because even at its most innocent, why are you seeing Yeah. Your the judge who actually has more authority than you.

Yeah.

Chesko: That's why he freaks the hell out. Yeah.

Regan: This person has more power than you do in the [00:05:00] situation to mm-hmm. Get into a professional argument. Mm-hmm. Or debate over something.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: And immediately go to, okay, honey,

Chesko: honey, the most. And it's true though. The way he says it is so condescending. Yes. There is a tone to it, honey.

But, and it's him like condescending. His wife. Yes. Like, and like, and like, yes honey, listen, you just don't understand. This is man's stuff.

Regan: It's like, I'm frustrated. You're not getting me. Like, he immediately associates. Frustration with the woman to his wife. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So his wife should be insulted.

Mm-hmm. The judge should be insulted and also like that never would happen with a male judge. No, I do not believe it.

Chesko: No. No. Although that would be funny.

Regan: You lose immediately,

Chesko: honey. Excuse me. What'd you say about me? Say,

Regan: I don't know why the judge sounds like that. That's horrifying.

Chesko: Guilty. The Southern judges,

Regan: Hey, nah.

[00:06:00] You don't call me honey. Honey,

Chesko: you are the honey. All right? You're

Regan: going to the jail to be someone's honey. You hear me?

Chesko: Bailiff, please get the prosecutor my phone number. Get the honey

Regan: outta here. That's so wild. Like in Yeah. In so many ways. Mm-hmm. And then when he is like, I'm really thrown off by that.

Sorry. It's like you are thrown off. Yeah. You just used a pet name on the judge.

Chesko: Yeah. It is rare that a video pops up and my mouth is just a gap watching it. I, I watched it, just the, the, my face, the full first time watching it. The second he said it was just. And watching. I was like, what is, what's gonna happen?

What's gonna happen? Oh my God, what is happening?

Regan: That makes me feel like he does not speak to women besides his wife.

Chesko: No.

Regan: Really?

Chesko: Yeah. Or, or a server in a restaurant that he also calls honey when he wants to, uh,

Regan: he's a cereal, honey.

Chesko: Yeah. Well, I mean, you, you don't accidentally say something unless you do.

You're com you say a lot, right? Yeah. Well, [00:07:00] unless it's something that isn't common.

Regan: It reminds me sometimes my dad will call me by the name of one of my nieces.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: And I'm like, I don't like the implication. I'm childish and need things. Is that what that is? And I act like a child. Um, but when it happens, you're like, okay, because you understand the context of that, like what that has to mean, you know, like what, or maybe the subtext of that maybe.

Mm-hmm. You have the context to understand the subtext.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: And that's what that is like. Oh, so you got frustrated with me and it's like, again, I agree with you that it had the vibe of like, I know more. Mm-hmm.

Chesko: Honey, listen. No, no. Like shut up. Like it's basically what it was, right? It was like, and then he realizes, oh my God, I just said to this person that's in charge of whether or not I win or lose this case, who has.

So much more power and respect to me in this courtroom who is could easily just throw me out. Mm-hmm. Like [00:08:00] I've stopped me from talking right now for being so condescending. Oh, and the, the panic I, I'm not gonna lie, that part was beautiful.

Regan: Yeah. I, I enjoyed it. The

Chesko: way, the way you could see that he was, he knew how badly he fucked up right there, and just the absolute terror mm-hmm.

That he, that he would not feel in any other situation, but because he's aware of the power dynamic in that situation, he is just, you could just see it's like, oh. My God.

Regan: And if you couldn't tell by what they were saying, listeners, they were on a, a, basically a running clock. So he had two minutes to have this exchange.

And so when he screws up the top, the clock is just ticking away as he fumbles over his words, which was also very like perfect. Like, oh yeah, you're wasting your own time.

Chesko: What's the, uh, what's the worst you've ever messed up in a situation like this? What's, like, what's the worst accidental thing you've said in a, in a [00:09:00] environment that you weren't supposed to say that I, I'll share.

I, the only one I'm thinking of with me is. After my, my daughter was born, uh, I was so tired. Right. You know, I'm exhausted, but I, it was, I had to go teach immediately 'cause it was near the end of the semester, so I was like, I can't, I couldn't even take like a day off. I had to go straight back. Um, and luckily my mother-in-law was visiting us, so it was like, so there was people at home that were helping, et cetera.

But I, I met school and we had been, you know, working with my son on potty training him. Uh, the first day I am like, if anybody needs to go potty, just, just, you don't have to ask me for permission. Just go. And they started giggling. I was like, if any of you have to use the restroom, you can go. I'm like, and you could see in my eyes, I have like dark rings around my eyes.

Uh, and, and, uh, but I was, I told, yeah, my room of college students, if any of you need to go potty. Just go. You want me to ask, had

Regan: I had something happen? I don't recall what I was talking about, but I accidentally said to my wife, mom, is this blah, blah, my mom? [00:10:00]

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: And she goes, what? And then I tried so hard to think of any word that could sound like mom, because I was like, oh my God, why did I say that?

It was so bad. It was so embarrassing. I don't know what I would saying

Chesko: I do. I've done that before too. Uh, but it's only 'cause I refer to my wife as mommy to my kids so often that it But out of context. No, it's, that's what is embarrassing. Mm-hmm. Because at home, it's not the end of the world. Okay, mommy's gonna do this, blah, and daddy's gonna do

this,

et cetera.

But like I, where I'm referring to, oh yeah, you know what Mommy does blah, blah, blah, and they're like. When mommy does that. Who's mommy? Oh, I'm referring to my wife. You're referring to your wife as mommy? Well, I mean, yeah. Sick. She's the mother of three. But out of context, it feels really weird. Mm-hmm. To say something like that, I'm like, I'm not talking about my mom.

That's weird. Why'd you make it weird?

Regan: There's a lot of slip ups. And again, I think they always mean like there're there's something to them. Like, why did you do that? But for, in this case specifically, like you definitely feel like he. Has an [00:11:00] issue with women. He doesn't take their arguments as seriously, like I I I don't know if it's 'cause they were talking over each other, they're interrupting each other.

But like to immediately associate that with your wife, anytime a woman disagrees with you is wild, right? No. For both sides of it, for the person you're disagreeing with and for your wife, like good God.

Chesko: And the fact that, uh, like I said, the immediate, I just imagined a dog with his tail between his legs.

Like, just like I, oh no, I, I made a bad move.

Regan: I told you, I think I've told you this before, but there was a, a film history teacher I had that was very, very nerdy, very awkward, just very awkward person. I loved him. He was like one of my favorite teachers. But he was giving a lecture one time and he was trying to say.

Part.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: I think he was like saying part four, Uhhuh, but he ended up saying [00:12:00] fart. He's like, this is, this is the fart. And then, um, he just got

Chesko: so, so blustered by it, a flustered '

Regan: cause he had said fart to a room full of col college students. Mm-hmm. And then like, he kept trying to talk. He's like, guys, I'm so sorry.

I just said fart earlier. I can't move on from.

And I was like, I get it. If I said I would be out, out for the day,

Chesko: it's funny, I'm, because I fuck up talking all the time. That's, that's not even as a communication professor, I, I'm bad at talking. Um, but it, it doesn't, so it doesn't really, I think, 'cause I'm used to it mm-hmm.

It doesn't throw me off too bad when I make mistakes. Mm-hmm. But it throws me off completely. Like people, the way people talk to me sometimes. Mm-hmm. When they get too comfortable. Oh yeah. With you. It's always, always, it was more when I was a younger professor, like when I was their age basically. Uh, and doing like, I, I had a student, I think I've shared this story online.

I don't think I've shared it on the podcast, but I had a student that like blatantly hit on [00:13:00] me for her final I. Uh, speech.

Regan: Oh God.

Chesko: It was like, and obviously now I can see that it was it's problem. I can see like in general it was problematic that they were doing that, but

Regan: yeah,

Chesko: uh, she, she did our wedding vows for her final speech.

Uh, and Oh, hold

Regan: on, hold on. Did. If you were to get married, what your vows would be?

Chesko: What are, yeah, what our vows would be like. It would, this was supposed to be in the future. 'cause their final speech is a special occasion. I let them do wedding vows, eulogies, toasts, things like that. And so she did from her wedding, here are my vows.

And so she stands up and she, this was not the first instance of her. Making awkward comments to me throughout the semester, but I was, so, I was 24 years old and I didn't know how to, how to deal with it. And so I would just go, okay, uh, moving on and on. And I just ignore it because I was like, I don't, I, and I, because in my mind also, I'm like, I'm gonna get fired if I like, do anything here.

And so I just kind of would just ignore it, move on and hope everyone forgot. So the last [00:14:00] day she, uh, I, I made a video. It was a few, a few years back, so I apologize if any of our followers have, have seen this, but. She is doing her wedding vows and she and I used to, by the way, sit front row for my student speeches.

I don't anymore directly as a result of this

Regan: from the trauma of this incident. Yeah.

Chesko: And so she, she pulls out a piece of paper and she's like, uh, today on my wedding day, uh, I want to just be thankful that I've met you and that I've known you all these years ever since that first day that I met you, when you were the professor of my public speaking class.

And, and I'm like. Sitting there, I'm like, I don't know what to do. Once again, as a brand new professor who was there? Other kids in the room? Yes. The whole classroom. Oh my God. They're all like, are they

Regan: having an affair? You're like, no, no, no, no, no.

Chesko: And just a few months previous I was a student. I had no teacher training.

I was just, that's the way I was. I was just thrown a class three months later and so she's, this

Regan: girl really set you up to look bad.

Chesko: Yeah. And she is. [00:15:00] So confident, you know, the confidence of this, of this young woman that staring at me and she is making fullon like sta and I'm just like staring on my paper.

Like I don't, I can't look and I'm, I think I'm probably bee red. Yeah. And that, that made her even more this story. I, this is a really long story. I don't, because there's more to it than this anyways, but she, uh, I'll share that in a second. So she is seeing, and that's why I love, I, I, I love you. Says my, my legal name, I'm not gonna say that on, on the podcast.

Um, and she says, I remember, I still remember how I didn't deserve the grades that I was getting in our, in our class, but you just, you knew that blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, no. Wow. This sounds like

Regan: she's a villain. No,

Chesko: this was bad. And so she goes, I still remember, this is embarrassing. I still have the feedback you gave me from one of my speeches, and you wrote.

That I had really good nonverbals, and I think we all knew what that means. And I'm like,

Regan: oh my God, she's, you're getting, there's a movie about this. Yeah.

Chesko: [00:16:00] The audience is losing their fucking mind. Because also I, like I said, I'm so, I had very casual relationship with my au my, my students. 'cause I'm their age, right.

In the sense it was a very chill classroom. Oh my God. So they're, my God, they're loving this. No one's seeing anything wrong with this. I'm literally sitting in my chair thinking I'm gonna, I'm gonna get cake outta, I'm fired, I think

Regan: right now. No, I, I

Chesko: think I'm, this is, I'm a grad student. I'm like, this is, this is how people.

Like lose their job. This is bad, bad, bad. And so she, she finishes her speech. Walks back to a standing ovation from the class. Oh, bad

Regan: feedback.

Chesko: They think it is the best thing in the world. And I obviously as now as, as a tenured professor, as, as someone that's been doing this for a while, I would've stopped the speech.

Regan: Right. I

Chesko: would've said something, I would've addressed it. I would've, you know, that, that's really inappropriate. Right. I would, I would, I would've, I'm not comfortable. I would not have just like moved on.

Regan: Yeah.

Chesko: As a brand new teacher with no training, no idea how to deal with a situation. I was like, all right, let's go to the next speech and we move on.

So here's the deal though. This, I said this is a longer story. [00:17:00] There were three of them. There was like there two, the, their little group of three friends,

Regan: oh God, sat

Chesko: next to each other, each class. Okay. And so we're moving on. That was like, that was like the third speech of the day. It was like right in the beginning.

And it's the final day of class. So I can't just like leave 'cause they have to do their presentations. Right. And so we're going on, we're going forward. Her friend comes up. Gives the maid of honor toast. Ah, oh my God. At wedding. Get

Regan: outta here. Of

Chesko: me and her. No, she, that's right. No, she was the one that said, we all knew that she didn't deserve a on the speeches she was giving that That's right.

She was the one that was saying that. Oh, great. The was the one with the paper that said the nonverbals of re This was like 18 years ago now. Um, but, uh, as clearly it's stuck in my head still, but, so she's giving this and the audience is once again. Erupting. I'm surprised that another teacher didn't come in and ask us to quiet down because they were losing their mind over the time.

They probably

Regan: don't understand the implication either. [00:18:00]

Chesko: Right? Well, I'm sure they're, yeah. They're all 18, 19-year-old college students. Yeah. This is hilarious. Uh, this is the best thing that we don't, you don't do this, the teachers, professors.

Regan: Oh, she's getting him, getting him fired.

Chesko: Yep. And so, so she does it.

Another standing ovation

Regan: Thunder crack.

Chesko: Yeah. And so, uh, and I am just thinking this for, for the students, this is the best class they've ever had for me, it's quite literally the worst day of my life. I'm, I am genuinely thinking, I guess I could move back home. I guess I could still like, I'm, I'm like in all the worst case scenarios here.

Regan: I bet that's so scary. Once

Chesko: again, did not address it because I didn't know what to do. What do you say? Yeah, I know, I know. And so we keep moving forward and so we're almost near the end of class and I'm like, I'm, I'm like, just survive. I'm like, okay, we're fine. Before live people aren't, like, there was, there was like little giggles throughout the class, but for the most part, speeches are boring.

They're not, nobody's really [00:19:00] settling. We're we settled in the final speech of the day? Was the third one of them. Oh wait, so she goes up to the corner of the room. She has like a bag of stuff, turns around and has a big fake pregnant belly. I don't know where this is going at this point.

Regan: Yeah. You're like, no, no, no,

Chesko: no.

She's giving a toast at the baby shower for the baby that she and I had conceived after I left her friend for her, and she was like, and I really want to thank. I'm not gonna say her name, friend's name. I still remember all three of their names because like I said, uh, I want to, I always wanna thank for showing up and, and understanding that it was our love that was true and that you were willing to vote.

And I'm just sitting there. I. Like, and so, so the, so she does a speech, another sending ovation. Normally at every class I've ever given, I have a end of the end of the year spiel about how I'd like for you to use my class and like how I'll, I wish you well. And if you need letters of recommendation, all the kind of things you say at the end of a semester.[00:20:00]

I literally just said, thanks for a great semester, everybody, and ran out of the room, went straight to my department head's office, and I was like, so this just happened.

Regan: Jesus. That's like psychological warfare. I

Chesko: know, I know. So I go to my, I go to her office, I'm like, this just happened. And she, she, at first, she's very serious about it.

Yeah. And she's like, she's like. Did you do anything though? I was like, no,

Regan: no, I would never, I did

Chesko: nothing, so I don't break rules. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I don't, we went over that ne free show. I, I, I am a very much a rule follower. Uh, and, uh, so she finally, and then finally, once it's been established that this is completely just, she's also la she's like, I promise you, you're fine.

Like, and then she was, I don't think she was trying to like laugh at my situation, but I think she was, she was like. She was also like kind of nervous about the whole thing, but she was like, I promise you, you're fine, as if you didn't do anything. You're fine.

Regan: This is dark.

Chesko: I know.

Regan: Well like to do. They have to be very, not only to do this, but to do it for their final grade and not think, [00:21:00] oh my God.

And then can you even give them a bad grade because then it looks really weird.

Chesko: Nope. No. Luckily I'm a very easy grader.

Regan: That's so creepy. 'cause if you did it in their verse. Yeah. Yeah. It would be very like if, if you were a, a woman teaching and these men were like, completely, oh, we're married. And then like, oh, I impregnated you.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Oh, like they brought a pregnant belly. That's insane behavior.

Chesko: I think it was just like a sweatshirt she shoved in her. Don't care. Yeah, I know. I know. No, I know. And I, like I said, years later, I could realize how fucked up that is. Right. But it was,

Regan: I mean, it's like literally psychological drama like.

We're all gonna, because you know, the first one, you're like, that was the worst thing I've ever experienced. Thank God. That's over the second one. Second and the third one, there's a pregnancy.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. It was, what were

Regan: they doing? Why?

Chesko: Let's fuck with this grad student teacher. Uh, well, they

Regan: probably had a crush on you was part of [00:22:00] it.

Chesko: But the one specifically, I know, she, she, absolutely. The way that she had said stuff all semester long was very clear. Like she was trying to flirt with me and I was like, Ew,

Regan: go away.

Chesko: Yeah. Get

Regan: outta here.

Chesko: Yeah. That, that was the, uh, I, I, I changed the way I taught for a while after that, I became such a hard teacher.

Like, I was like, I was like, this is my policies. This is, no one will love me. No one will love. And I mean, it didn't, it always like faded like a third of the way through the semester. But I always started the semester thinking I was gonna be a hard ass ever since that. And I set like such specific ground rules for that speech going forward.

They were, I was like, you may not. Address me. And I was like, that was the number. People are like,

Regan: what? I was like, why would I do that? I just wanna be clear.

Chesko: I know. And that's, that's normally people would be like, I don't, of course I'm not gonna, I was like, I just need to be clear. You may not get Oh, no, no.

I remember what I did. I don't do, I haven't done this assignment in like, like five or or six years. I changed the, that's right. I made it where they had to give an award. I, I did it just an award show. I [00:23:00] changed the entire final speech, an award show, and they had to pick a name out of a hat of one of their classmates and give the award to that.

So I made it specifically that they, it was not possible for them to give anything that had to do with me. Um, where I was like, yeah, that's right. They had to give it. And I did that for like a decade.

Regan: Can you imagine if you put in there, you cannot say that we're getting married. You cannot have your friend come up and do the best of the maid of honor.

You cannot have your other friend come up and pretend to be pregnant and then say that I left one for the other one. People, it's like when you, it's, you see

Chesko: warnings at pools and stuff that, you know, like that. That was a very, that's too specific.

Regan: Somebody did that. Somebody

Chesko: tried that shit. Pool.

Regan: That's so scary.

What, what, what were the afterwards? Were they just like me? Like what did they. Or they just went about, they're like, you're like, there's moments in life where you can clearly say to yourself, you're gonna walk away from this and never think of it again. I will never forget what just transpired.

Chesko: I, I [00:24:00] literally can see every face in that classroom.

Like, I remember the exact classroom I was in. I remember where I was sitting. I remember where they were sitting. Like it's, it is a memory and I'm, I don't have a great memory. That day is absolutely seared in my permanent memory. Uh, you

Regan: changed my curriculum, girl.

Chesko: Yep. Literally, that is, yeah.

Regan: I would've had a panic attack.

I would've had hives for sure.

Chesko: It was, it was, I was not in a good, I was already not in a good place in grad school. That did not add, that added to. Uh, to that, but, uh, that, that point forward, I was fine. Uh, that no other situations really happened, like with that, but

Regan: I do feel like the fact that everybody was laughing shows that they didn't think it was true, like that they thought it was a funny joke.

Chesko: If it was like, yeah, if it was, if there were gasps. Yeah, and it's the, I think part of the issue is I, like, I teach comedically. I, I think, I think comedy helps learning things. And so I think the, the, the relationship I have with students was that it's a word jokey classroom. It's okay to make funny jokes.

It's o but the, [00:25:00] and, and if you're 18, you don't know the line. Right? Yeah. And also, if I'm not willing to step in, I, I don't wanna self victim blame, right? 'cause I am like the victim in this situation right here. But, but as a, as a, as a teacher, I, the reason it has never happened to me again. It's not 'cause I got uglier, right?

It's, uh, it's because I, I know how to. I, I've learned classroom management now and I know how to set certain boundaries between

Regan: Yeah. I don't, I don't feel that I'm, uh, I'm gonna say no on that. No. Just because you had your students imply you're in a relationship with them. Yeah. Then imply you grade, give them easier grades because you're in a relationship with them Then.

Bring a pregnant belly and imply that you've had sex with them.

Chesko: Yeah,

Regan: you know what? I don't think anybody can be blamed. You gotta give, we don't blame any victims regardless of gender CHASCo. Okay. You can, I'll say

Chesko: the first one did say in her speech, and remember, it's all coming back to me very slowly as we she said in [00:26:00] there.

I still remember the day after you submitted our final grades. You asked me on our first date. So that was in the, uh, so she, she was even aware. I think of the fact that they now, I never even thought about it until you brought up these points right here. I think she was aware that this could be viewed as something bad, but that was a line in her seat.

But

Regan: she did it anyways.

Chesko: But she did it anyways. All three of 'em did.

Regan: That doesn't help anything.

Chesko: I think you get group thing too. This will be hilarious. Yeah, this'll be hilarious. This'll be great. He'll, he's so funny. He'll love this. He'll think this is hilarious.

Regan: I would bet she was the ringleader there.

And then the other two were like, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, that'll great. Let's do it.

Chesko: Yikes. Yikes. So that was, uh, I don't, how do I even bring that story up from this? I guess I'll, I'll people awkwardly tell you things up to me. Yeah,

Regan: yeah. Wow.

Chesko: Yeah. Wow. So that was, uh, that was my honey.[00:27:00]

Regan: I don't, I was trying to think if I have any of like, people crossing Mm. Like getting too comfortable. I mean, I used to have, when I went, I used to work at a production company.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: And like I was really good friends. Um, well, I was really friendly with my writers. There's three male writers. Um, and then I was, uh.

The producer over that. So I produced all, because they were writing, they were writing an ungodly amount of scripts and they were all young guys, uh, probably early twenties to mid twenties. Mm-hmm. And I had a good relationship with them, but they were like underpaid. We all were underpaid. And they started like roasting me, kind of.

Mm-hmm. Like I remember one time I came in a striped shirt. Mm-hmm. And, um. It's kind of funny, which is annoying, uh, because they're all writers. So their rows were good. Damn. They were good roast. It was

Chesko: actually a good burn. Yeah.

Regan: I walk, I had [00:28:00] a, like a, a vertical striped, uh, shirt, black and white stripes, and I, uh, shirt on and I walked in and one of my writers turns to me and he is like, who, who called?

And I was like, what? He's like, you know, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Ugh. Ugh. Straight shot to the heart. It was so good, but he, they would burn me all the time. And then finally I, it was like I got to the point where I was like, shit, we're too comfortable now. Mm-hmm. Like, you, you would not rip on a man this way.

There's no way you would be roasting a man's outfits.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Like he, I happen me all the time. I was like, damn it.

Chesko: Now

Regan: I would handle it much differently. Now I would not be down for that. Right. But like at the time I was like, oh, we're getting a, we're getting a fun work environment. But I was like, I.

Chesko: Go ahead.

Regan: No, I just meant the other producer, if they had tried to roast him, it would not have gone that way. Okay. As

Chesko: well. I had a, I had a, the, the one time I, I genuinely feel bad. You've seen [00:29:00] the way I treat, I, I, uh, am I do Friendship is, I'm mean to you, right? Like, the way that we pick on each other. Like we, we make fun of each other.

Like in, in a way, I've always think it's very clear that I'm not actually making fun of you. When I do, or at least it feels like I'm not trying to be mean. Does that make sense? I'm fucking with you right now. Yeah. Now I'm like really so nervous

Regan: I'm not responding. 'cause I want you to sit in it for a second.

'cause

Chesko: the, yeah, because the story I'm about to tell you is one where, where it wasn't clear. Oh, I think I, go ahead. I think I, yeah, I think I shared, I think I shared this with you. I don't know if I shared it on the show before, do it, but, uh, there was, it was one of my teammates I thought was a very close friend.

It was a coworker, friend. It was somebody. But, but I would like. Jokingly pick on her. Nothing. Nothing. Ex, you know, it was never like about her face or mm-hmm. Anything but just like little like, oh yeah, thanks. Mm-hmm. Or, you know, stuff like that where it was always, I thought, very funny, three years into working with each other, maybe four.

It was a while. We were, we were for five years total, but it was deep into the amount of time we were working with each other. One day I said something that was not even, it was like, nothing. [00:30:00] And she just goes, she starts crying. She goes like, why don't you like me? And I was like. What now? I, I was like, what is happening?

And she was like, you're always so mean to me. And I guess that was what pushed it over. I was like, oh my God, you don't think I, you think, you think everything I do? And I felt. I, I'm like tearing up thinking about this. I felt worse than I had ever felt in my entire life.

Mm-hmm.

At that point. 'cause I don't do mean things.

I don't, and, and I was certain she was in on it. I was certain she knew because I, she was so, we'd worked together for so many hours. So long. Oh my God, this is my good friend. She's like, Katie

Regan: picks on me every

Chesko: day. He hates me. He's like, and I was thinking like, and like luckily at that point we had a, we talked and it was fine.

It was great. She realized, oh, that, that was not how I was, [00:31:00] but I. I've like, now I'm so careful and you've seen it with you. Even whenever I say something that is too biting, I'm like, I need that a joke. I need you to know that's, that's a joke. And that's, that's where that comes from is that moment where I would just be like, but the people I get close to, like every men, women, and across the gender spectrum, I, I mean to like, but not in a, in like in a fun way.

In, in a way that's like. Yes. I don't know. Maybe I need to stop. I don't know why, but I

Regan: know I'm the same way. I, if I, if I like to joke back and forth, like it's banter, it's like fun little, like it's,

Chesko: yeah, yeah, yeah. It's never, it's never mean in a way of like, oh man, you're ugly. It is ugly. Yeah. Like, it's like, oh God, you shouldn't be wearing that.

Like, it's not, it's never anything like mean, mean, it's just like,

Regan: yeah.

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: I get, well, I have. Uh, almost the opposite of, so I, mm-hmm. There's this guy that I worked with who, um, I really liked. I was like, we are such good [00:32:00] friends. We get along so well. Um, you know, I, I almost felt like he was like a big brother to me.

I was like, we have a great friendship. This is, I'm so lucky. I have a friend network. This actually happened twice. Friend network. Yay, yay, yay. And then literally like, uh, years, one or two years later, um, I was talking, so, uh, somebody, somebody I knew. Knew someone who was dating so like grapevine, and they came back to me and said, they were like, oh.

I was like, oh yeah, we, I was friends with him, blah, blah, blah. And they're like. That's not what I heard. I was like, what? And they're like, yeah. She was saying that he, that he said he flirted with you all the time that all that he was hitting, hitting on you this whole time. I was like, we're the best of friends.

I was like, no. He was hitting on me the [00:33:00] whole time. I literally, I can honestly say, had no idea that's what was happening. 'cause we would rip on it. We would just like, right, right. And I was like, oh, this is what friendship is.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: And I was like, first, why did you tell, first of all, why did you tell the person you're dating about that?

And then it got back to me, right? It was big enough that it got back to me like mm-hmm. I was just like,

Chesko: I had a, I had a friend in college, uh, where she was a lesbian. Uh, and, but this is a theme where.

Regan: Um, we had a podcast.

Chesko: We were, we were wine buddies. We said, like, that was a, we would get drunk and drink wine with each other.

That was like our, I love that. Our, our friendship. Um, but we were, we had very, we were mean to each other, like, yes, in the same way. And apparently people thought we were dating at one point because they're like, oh, isn't that your girlfriend? I was like, she, no, uh, no.

Regan: She's a lesbian.

Chesko: I almost said her name, but I was like, I was like, d.

She dates women.

Regan: Do I look like Awo? I am

Chesko: not a woman anyways, but it was like, it was like, oh God. But it was, [00:34:00] it happened. So because we were so, I don't know. It's what, what we gave off, but it was, but I think people think when you're nice to a person mm-hmm. If a man is being nice to a woman and a woman's and you're like cutting at each other, uh, that it would be.

Regan: Well, it's almost like a lot of men don't associate with women, right? Unless they're attracted to them. Unless they're

Chesko: attracted, they don't have rapport like that. And I guess we would sit next to each other like she was, she was comfortable, like cuddling up to me because she knew there was no, like, you know, that kind stuff.

That's part of it too.

Regan: Just go. That's definitely if you're cuddling. Yeah. I could see how people got this. Yeah. And she would know

Chesko: she, yeah, I guess because of the fact that she was very aware that I was aware that there was nothing there. Yeah.

Regan: Oh, I used to that. It was not,

Chesko: I've seen,

Regan: not now, but yeah.

Yeah. I used to be cuddly with people, but only if I knew that they really understood like not it. This is never, although the crazy thing is even as a lesbian, you could say, I'm gay, and they're like. Okay, wink. Sure. You are wink,

Chesko: right?

Regan: Like what?

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: Oh God. Uh, you know what we could talk about? That's on.

Did you hear what [00:35:00] happened at the baseball game?

Chesko: No. The baseball game?

Regan: No. Ba hold on. I have to look it up with the heckling.

Chesko: No, you

Regan: didn't hear about this?

Chesko: No. Oh my

Regan: God. I'm raging over it. What else is Sam? I was,

Chesko: I was also, if this happened within the past seven days,

Regan: hold on. I have to find it.

Chesko: So, while, while you're looking this up, so yeah, I, this, the past day, I have been finding out everything that happened over the past week because I was at, uh, multiple conferences for, uh, reproductive rights and for, and VidCon and another, uh, press conference about, uh, about the Dobbs decision in Arizona.

Um, and it was like, I basically did not go on the internet for a week because I was so busy on those days. So there's so much that's happened. And yeah.

Regan: Talking about someone crossing the line. So, um, the Arizona Diamondbacks were playing the Chicago White Sox. Okay. And do you know who, uh, Cattel, Marta, is that right?

Yeah. You know who that is?

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Okay. Well, Cattel, Marta. [00:36:00] Uh, he lost his mother a couple years ago.

Chesko: Mm.

Regan: And he, so he was on the, uh, he was playing and all of a sudden he gets taken to the side and he's like, sobbing.

Mm-hmm.

And everyone's like, what is going on? Why is he crying? Is he injured? Like, what's up?

And he, I think he ended up getting pulled eventually. But what was happening was this. Mother fucking little white boy asshole entitled to lead this piece of shit. Kid was heckling him about his dead. Mother was shouting at him like, uh, I've heard different takes. Somebody said that. He was saying, you dumb f your mom died.

You dumb mother er, dumb er. I've also heard that he said, uh, something like, say hi to your mom for me. Yeah. What, like what? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, well, there is good news, you know, in [00:37:00] the time of only bad news. The good news is he's been banned from every MLB stadium.

Chesko: Amazing. As he should be.

Regan: As he Oh, oh yeah. A hundred percent.

But it should, yeah, he was, it was like. Like to the point that he was sobbing. He just, so I guess he just repeatedly was, and this little asshole was smiling. He was with a big group. I got

Chesko: him. I got him. Yeah. He was with,

Regan: hold on, let me see if I can find,

Chesko: you talk about like toxic masculinity there. The, the idea that you have the right to do that to, to impress.

Once again, the people you're with,

Regan: he was with these girls and they were all like, like laughing and like. It's like there, you know, he had a whole group with him who was undoubtedly laughing and hearing him say all this shit

Chesko: crap. Nobody around him is gonna say, shut the fuck up, dude. Like, like

Regan: the per the one voice we hear is a woman.

And she was yelling, it's fine, it's fine. He, he is a white boy. He is like the surfer, like kinda like brown hair. And he's just [00:38:00] like smi smiling.

Chesko: I, uh. So I'm a huge sports fan, uh, specifically more baseball and basketball.

Mm-hmm.

Um, it is, it is fasten the toxicity of fandom about how much you're supposed to hate certain other teams and all the players on that team.

Mm-hmm. Um, that is, it's, as I've gotten older, it's faded so much. Like, like, so I'm a, I'm a San Francisco Barrier Sports fan. Okay. Right. And so I'm a, I'm a San Francisco Giants fan. Um, and so that means. I hate the Dodgers and I still don't like the Dodgers, but I live in la Right? Sure. And so it's not like it, it's, it'd be weird if I'm like just walking around angry all the time.

'cause there's dodger stuff everywhere, uh, in Los Angeles. But it, it's, at one point, it was a few years back, it was, this is a recent, uh, now I never did anything anywhere close to this guy, but I genuinely did not like the Dodgers. Right. I just did not like them. Right. Uh, I, whenever they do well, I would be upset if a player that was on the Giants went to the Dodgers.

It, it would like [00:39:00] genuinely ruin my God, my day. Yeah. And then finally a couple years later, I clicked on my head. I was like. Why am I so mad? But like, what? There's, there's no, yeah. That's not fun. It's like the fun part was like rooting for it and, and like the competition. Having a, having a a rival is fun, but like, the hatreds not fun.

Like why? But it's at such an inherent part of fandom mm-hmm. Is that you have to hate the other team. And when you, when you like, feed into that hate so much shit, like this is what, 'cause you, you, this is, that's not an, this wasn't that surprising to me. Right. Knowing what I've seen sports fans say, knowing being a member of these sports forums that I'm in mm-hmm.

People say horrific things on them constantly. I, I'm like hiding and block. I've left. I, I used to be part of a bunch of different fandom forums mm-hmm. That I just don't participate in anymore because of how toxic they get so quickly. And that echoes, that's not just with sports, but it's especially bad, uh, with sports.

But it was literally, it took me till later in life [00:40:00] before I was like, why am, why am I spending investing so much my energy. Toward hating something that is just a fucking that I have no actual investment in. I'm not on the team. I'm not out. I'm not losing or gaining money. I'm rooting for these other millionaires to beat the other millionaires and hitting a ball better and, and shooting a basket better.

And. Uh, but it's, it's such a, it's such a weird part of it. And you see that then come out in little league games. Mm-hmm. You see that come out. And we've mentioned, I think we talked on that on the podcast before about like, why I stopped like going, playing basketball at like pickup games and stuff. 'cause that toxicity then get, it bleeds into all other aspects of sport.

And so, like even my son, like he was doing this basketball camp, that was great. It was much more about just enjoying it, et cetera. But, uh, like you, you end up seeing certain times where it's like, oh, I don't wanna be a part of that. 'cause everyone there is an asshole, right? And it's because they saw their father usually.

Maybe sometimes moms too, like the women in that clip are very clearly examples of this. Um, [00:41:00] but like where that are, are being assholes and they're like, oh, that's how you sport. Right. That's how you do this. And so now you'll see second graders and third graders being assholes because that's how they've seen their parent acting at that way.

And so I think we need to be more cognizant of that aspect and like, question, why are we doing this? Right.

Regan: Yeah. And it's interesting because, um, I don't have this confirmed mm-hmm. But allegedly, like sports betting may have been involved. Mm-hmm. And some people were saying that this was. Somebody who, like this was, may have had to do with like putting money on games and trying to throw,

Chesko: throw

Regan: one of the players and I guess there's a, uh, there was another, I don't know if it was gymnastics or something, but there was another case of heckling where they were purposely trying to get.

Uh, I know that it was a woman athlete, uh, but they were purposely trying to get her to falter by saying crazy shit to her. Wow. So she would perform poorly and like how this may [00:42:00] be a part of like, sports betting culture and how bad it is that now. Mm-hmm. Like, not, not just like trying to throw games or, um, impact the game in one way or another, but also the rage and hate and mm-hmm.

Anxiety that goes on when. Large amounts of money are on the line for these games and how out of control like the culture has gotten,

Chesko: right.

Regan: I don't know. I don't, I don't know if that's true or not. I, I think, I think we're just, regardless of that, like whether he had money on the line or not, like to be laughing.

About making a, a man cry over the, the loss of his mother. Like, I just can't imagine being so unempathetic and so entitled and so subhuman in your behavior to want to do that. Like to get joy. From breaking a person who's just trying to play the sport that you've paid to go, see, it's like [00:43:00] you would never be out there, Chad, like Chad.

You don't have the skill level to be there. You don't have the skill to participate, but you get off on the fact that you can have some impact because you'll never have it any other way than being disgusting. Like, that's the only way you can be involved in the game at all. Mm-hmm. So you, you're choosing to be so hateful because you realize that your significance in this arena is literally zero.

Mm-hmm. Other than

Chesko: that, yeah. I, I will say, I think, I do think the majority is not. This way. Right. You know, but there's enough, there's, there's enough of them that it ruins it for, for the majority. Right. That ruins it for like, like when a, when a player gets injured. Yeah. Like, for the most part, most people in the audience are, are like, oh, thats like, that's this livelihood.

That's, that sucks. Yeah. Whatever sport that we wanna see is better. But you al there will always be a few assholes that are like,

Regan: yeah. Woo.

Chesko: All excited about it.

Regan: But you, you have to think like, I under, [00:44:00] I guess I don't, I'm not into sports very much or at all, but regardless of that, like this guy has to be a piece of shit outside of the arena.

Like there's no way this guy's in a horrible human being like you, you know, I think we take these incidents as like. You know, one-offs and we, and we, we don't think about like the bigger picture of that. This dude is an asshole. I guarantee this is not the only person. He's been a jerk to like, to do so, so freely and think it's hilarious.

Mm-hmm. Like this guy is like this out and about in his real life. Like, there's just no way.

Chesko: Yeah. I mean, it, it's definitely emblematic or symptomatic. I don't know one of those words of who, who they, it's an attic for sure. We, we, I remember I did, uh, I, I, I studied aspects of this with, um, my, uh, my thesis on World of Warcraft for about like, uh, back, back then.

It was like, this doesn't apply to anything. And now you could see it applicable to so many things, but like the idea of the, the person they are online is not the person they're in real life. Right. Well, I don't know. Good people aren't [00:45:00] using the n word to call, like calling bo like, like bosses the n word in these games.

It was just, and that was my whole point. I was like, where do we draw the line? Right. And I think there are certain things that you, that need to be reigned in because, uh, but, but there, the people that were doing it would argue, oh, no, no, no. That's just how I am when I play games. I wouldn't say that my, my character was, was saying that.

Right. The idea as if there in a, in a, in a Broadway musical that there are other characters, the ra, the racist. Right. Something that's

Regan: like an in split. Did you ever see split from Mite Shama? Mm-hmm. There's a character with multiple personality or DID dissociative identity disorder as it's called now.

And, uh. Something happens, and then it's a different character. And he goes, that wasn't me, that was Patricia. Mm-hmm. And then people were using this meme for like, anytime they did something wrong, they're like, that wasn't me. That was Patricia.

Chesko: Right.

Regan: That's like how it's, they're like, that wasn't me. Mm-hmm.

And it's like.

Chesko: That's just how I get when I play sports. I'm really competitive.

Regan: Yeah. [00:46:00] I just, you know, talk about people's dead mothers. Mm-hmm. Like,

Chesko: get over it.

Regan: I, I have always hated that idea. I have always hated even like, like certain cre like writers who would write, I remember that in, in college, like guys would write horrible shit.

Mm-hmm. Like horrible, like bad, really bad things happening to women or like, whatever. Mm-hmm. And be like, um. Well, that's, that's not who I am. Mm-hmm. There was one time this kid wrote this like fantasy about a school shooting, and it was a big deal. Wow. Okay. Because like he used real names and stuff. Wow.

It was super creepy and scary and the mm-hmm. Admin did get involved at that point, but it's like. Okay, but why do you want to do it? Why are you spending hours doing these behaviors? Mm-hmm. Like, I don't believe that they're not linked. Like if you spend your free time being horrible to other people,

Chesko: right?

Regan: Then there is something about you that enjoys being horrible.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. [00:47:00] No, it, it's, I think there and, and like. Is it? Is, is there are, is there nuance to this conversation? Sure, sure. But not when it comes to, like, when you're talking about the extremes, which is what we're referring to here. Right. I don't think there is that much nuance.

I think it's just people are using it as an excuse. Oh. You know, perfect example. This reminds me of like whenever, um, this happened recently with, uh, I made a video about this, the, that Brendan Abernathy guy that you'll be married in a year in the suburb. Right. Um, but you see this with all, all sorts of things.

It's, they were the things, they were, a lot of people were mocking them for. Mm-hmm. Were, were. Things that are common stems with autistic people. Um, but they weren't, they clearly weren't saying, oh, this guy's autistic, this guy is blah, blah, blah. Like him going on his tiptoes and doing all sorts of things.

Sure. And like, and you see this with, with, uh, whenever, if a, if a black man does something that is, is wrong mm-hmm. People are like, people have never spoken up about other people doing it. Or like, here's my chance to be racist. Yes. In a socially [00:48:00] acceptable way. Here's my chance to be ableist in a socially acceptable way when a woman does something.

Uh, that you saw this with the, uh, the Johnny Depp, uh, uh, Amber heard thing where like, here's chance to be openly sexist and like talk about how horrific women are Yep. In this thing, but in a way where people are gonna be like, no, no, it's okay. 'cause I'm not talking about women talking about talking about this woman, about this woman.

Regan: That, that was like, um, there was a, a. Heavyset woman who had oxygen and she would, it was a clapping video. It was like clap for ice, doing their job. Mm-hmm. Um, and obviously I am 10000%. Not for that video.

Chesko: Right.

Regan: Said Wanting to hit her in the face. I can't say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that.

Yeah. But and it was, it was agro, it was a grotesque video. Yeah. It was like getting joy at like this horrific

Chesko: at the expense of other things. Yeah. Or I mean, a

Regan: horrific thing. Family being torn apart. Yeah. You know, anyways, but. I would say 80% of. Mm-hmm. [00:49:00] The comments I saw were just fat phobic things. Mm-hmm.

Like really like, uh, having, taking a pig's head and putting the oxygen tank right. Or like saying like they would crush her oxygen. Mm-hmm. Um, as much as I disagree with her, and I could tell her exactly why, you know, it seemed to be an outlet for a lot of people to say some really disturbing fat phobic shit.

Mm-hmm. Like. Her size has nothing to do with the hatred in her heart and what's disgusting about her.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: And like, it's just interesting to your point. I mean, I saw a lot of, you know, right wing, blonde, skinny girls doing the same shit, using the same audio. Mind you. Mm-hmm. Um. And getting not at all the same feedback.

I mean, definitely people were against it, but they weren't Right. Right. They weren't like trashing, um,

Chesko: her looks

Regan: them that way. Mm-hmm. And like I, I, I a hundred percent agree that she should have [00:50:00] backlash. And I a hundred percent agree. She got it on her business stuff. People found that. Mm-hmm. And I think, you know, hey, if you wanna be public with that take mm-hmm.

Then you receive the backlash, like I mm-hmm. And I think it's justified. Mm-hmm. I agree with that. But it is crazy to see like this, the way that they come. Mm-hmm. At and, and the way it gets so hateful, so fast in an area that I don't think it needs to be, I mean, it's the same thing as Lily Tino, which we've talked about before.

Uh, she posts content I don't agree with. I do not like her content. Mm-hmm. And yet what happens a lot is it turns into these horrific transphobic conversations. Right, right. And using her to fuel transphobia.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Uh, and it's just. It's interesting to see how horrible people are willing to be. Mm-hmm. If they perceive they have the right to be like Lily Tino, they're like, oh, she's doing something bad so I can be transphobic, or you know.

Mm-hmm. The woman, it was like, oh, well, she's. [00:51:00] She's likes I, so I can be fat phobic and then mm-hmm. The guy's, the game is like, well, it's a game, you know? Mm-hmm. It's just a game that I'm fan, I'm, and I can heckle, I'm allowed

Chesko: that he's on the, he's on the enemy team.

Regan: Yeah. I can heckle how I want

Chesko: because people don't think about the fact, and this is where this, the whole point of this is that when you're making fun of.

An attribute that is not directly related to anything they're saying. Mm-hmm. Or the point they're making or the thing that makes them horrible. Mm-hmm. You're forgetting the fact that there's a lot of other good people. Not saying any bad people with that should also be heckled for that. Yeah. But there's a lot of people that you do like who have done nothing wrong, who you're also then mocking.

Mm-hmm. Who you're also then like who are seeing how much you hate them, and that the only reason that you're not openly mocking them is because you agree with them. Right. The only reason, yeah, go ahead.

Regan: No, I was gonna say, and you also like, I think so many of them wouldn't be mocking them at all if it weren't for the other things.

Like they're using that as the gateway into it. Mm-hmm. But like. There's so many go. But do [00:52:00] you think it does, it

Chesko: does like e expose a lot of their beliefs that they don't say out loud because they know how socially acceptable to, so, but I, so I do think they do think these things, right? It's, that's, that's what I mean.

Oh, okay. It's

Regan: like the gateway, meaning like,

Chesko: right.

Regan: I have, like, I have, uh, you know, whatever these people have, they have, I have, they have fat phobic beliefs, okay.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: They have those already. Then they have someone who is heavy set doing something bad. Mm-hmm. Oh, that's the gateway in, I now I can just unload all of these hateful beliefs mm-hmm.

And feel morally. Right. Right. And yeah, I, I mean it's, there's nuance to it. I mean

Chesko: mm-hmm.

Regan: A lot of pe like when you're, people do drag people who are terrible people for different reasons. Mm-hmm. But I think it is important to recognize like, what are you attacking them for and mm-hmm. You know, how would someone feel.

Who is not bad in that way. Mm-hmm. Seeing that part of them be so Right. Roughly described or like,

Chesko: well, I, I made videos about [00:53:00] Caitlyn Jenner years ago. Mm-hmm. About why they're like, well, is it okay if I misgender Caitlyn Jenner? No. No. I think Caitlyn Jenner is a fucking monster. It doesn't matter that she, but she.

Is a monster. Right? Yeah. It's because that has nothing to do with her gender. Yeah. Right. They're, they, they, her, her, her, her, uh, identity markers are not what makes her a monster. Mm-hmm. There's so, and also it's so, it's so, it, it's such an easy thing to grab onto. Yeah. And, and mock, it's like, what? That, that has nothing.

There's so many, when they're doing so many bad things. Even Trump is a great example. Like, we're like the, the about him being fat. Like the fat, like he gets a lot of, uh, fat comments. Mm-hmm. And he is a fucking monster. There's so many other horrible things you could. Grab onto and make fun of that man about

Regan: truly you got it.

That

Chesko: aren't going to also mock every other, uh, person that is, is a larger size at the same time.

Regan: Yeah. Yeah. I think we just having an awareness of,

Chesko: yeah.

Regan: What we attack. How we attack it. Yeah. And it was perfect and fact. Yeah. I mean, we, we

Chesko: all, we've all made mistakes and said something for like, oh fuck, [00:54:00] that was

Regan: I, yeah, I, I regret that.

Chesko: Yeah, that was all right.

Regan: But you know what? I have never told Called the lawyer honey. So, no,

Chesko: no. Yet.

Regan: Yet?

Chesko: No. Ju a Judge Honey, right? Oh,

Regan: what I say. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've never, I've never called the judge, honey.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Yeah. We all friends? Have we talked long enough? Yeah.

Chesko: Yeah, we're good.

Regan: Okay. I think we're good.

Chesko: I think we're good.

I think we're good. I think everyone's fucking done with us at this point.

Regan: Okay, friends. Well, that is it for today's episode. Thank you so much for listening. Please, please, please check out our Patreon. We do an episode every week. It's unhinged. I do think, yeah, a

Chesko: lot of this episode is actually pretty similar to what our Patreon is, is normally like where we share stuff that really has nothing to do with what we plan on talking about.

Regan: Yeah. Well we had a lot of stories today. We only got through one of three videos, so there we go.

Chesko: Whoops. We're gonna do a smorgasbord of videos for you one video later.

Regan: We [00:55:00] told some good stories though. We did. That's that school speech story. Yeah, that is Prime. There we go. That's wild. If any, if any of you are listening, the three, you need to apologize.

Chesko: I forgive you.

Regan: I don't. I'm pissed. I'm horrified. Anywho, thanks friends for listening. As I said, check out the Patreon, uh, check out our socials. We have a YouTube channel if you wanna see our faces when we do these episodes. Yeah, we have. Stop. We have an Instagram, uh, TikTok, our personal tiktoks. And other than that, friends, we will see you next week.

Chesko: Love you. Bye

Regan: bye.