Vaginas Are Icky REAL_mixdown ===

Regan: [00:00:00] Hello everyone and welcome to the Mr Pick, me and the Man Hater Show, where my co-host is not doing anything obnoxious right now. Hi, I'm Reagan, ak, the Man Hater, even though I don't hate men. And uh, sir, the one that's barely in the frame. Who are you? I'm

Chesko: Chico. Mr. Pick me who's already been picked, that we could razzle dazzle the audio with some visual humor.

Regan: Uh, I just got a horrible visual of you as like a child show host, like a blippy. My God. No, thank you. It's the chess show

Chesko: I really would've loved to be on. Like, did you ever watch, you can't do that on television?

Regan: I don't think so. What is it that might have

Chesko: been? B before your time it was, uh, uh, Nico, where, where it was like a, it was kinda like all that, but before all that.

But like, imagine if all that was, you do know [00:01:00] what all that is, correct?

Regan: Yes. I watched all that. Thank you. Okay.

Chesko: Uh, but it was like all that, but like, if it was made by the, the writers from Ren and Stimpy. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. So it was like a very kind of like deranged, I wa Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I watched in an old episode recently.

I was like. This is wild. That's where I, I think that was the first one where the, uh, slimy people. Uh, on Nickelodeon came from, oh my God. I think that's what invented it. I could be wrong. It might have been double Dare, uh, but uh, I think that's where the Sliming came from. Or at least it was like right there in the beginning of it.

But it was a wild show. Like what all you have to do is like go online and anybody watching this go online, I don't wanna put it on the, on the video of this, 'cause there might still be copyright issues with putting it on here, but just Google the theme song of you can't do that on television and.

Realize this is a kid show. Oh

Regan: God, go.

Chesko: And I loved it. I thought it was the greatest thing ever.

Regan: And that's how you turned out the way you did?

Chesko: [00:02:00] Mm-hmm.

Regan: Mm-hmm.

Chesko: No fault of anybody's

Regan: just that show. Specifically speaking to people that turned out some kind of way. Just still, what are we gonna be talking about today?

Chesko: Vaginas are icky.

Regan: Leave some. You

Theme Song: can't say that you want bad advice, man. I'll give it out. Glad I got some good advice for you. I know you don't. I know you don't. I got some good advice for you. You don't.

I know you don't.

Chesko: That's what the video's about.

Regan: I know, but you can't say that.

Chesko: I, I think people will get that. It's not me saying it

Regan: except it literally just was. I've been

Chesko: very clear that I am, I am pro vva. No,

Regan: I don't like any direction this conversation is going. If I had to

Chesko: take a public stance, you got me.

I don't like to speak politically on this podcast. [00:03:00] I am pro vagina. I believe vaginas are great. Cancel me. I am sorry for saying it. I'm sorry if you don't feel the same way, Reagan.

Regan: Oh, okay. The lesbian.

Chesko: Your anti vulva misogyny that you post.

Regan: What? Just go.

Chesko: You can cut that part out.

Regan: Oh, I will not. I will not cut that out.

I'll tell you that right now. That one's going down in the history books.

Chesko: That was a good show. I

Regan: can't believe you said

Chesko: that. Where can people find this? Right?

Regan: So weird. Okay.

Chesko: Watch the, you haven't seen the clip yet. All right, let's watch it. Hopefully it'll, tell me if I'm wrong. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Regan: Give context to whatever the hell that was.

Yikes.

Clip: Vaginas are yucky is the thing. Breasts are wonderful. Oh, you got mad at me. I did it. I

Regan: did

Clip: it. I did it. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm joking. Of course. They're beautiful and they're wonderful and they're the source [00:04:00] of life and they're a little weird.

Why, why? What do you find weird about a

vagina? Well, there's all the layers and the lips and the, the odor.

How many lips?

Regan: The odor. Your wife is gonna be so happy with you.

Clip: I know. Different colors. You just pissed off your wife and your babysitter all at once. No, they're, they're very cool

with the fact that

their vaginas have an odor. Have

an odor. Well, soda balls. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa,

Regan: whoa, whoa,

Clip: whoa. Was I, was

Chesko: I wrong?

Was I exaggerating the

Regan: clip? It's so much worse. I know

vaginas are yucky. Like how old are you? Also, like if we're gonna talk about hygiene, that man's mouth needs a good brush or two. If you wanna talk about yucky, I can see the plaque in your mouth.

Chesko: I think the odor might, might be him smelling his own breath, wafting back.

Now

Regan: he's getting a whiff of his. Oh God. It smells like gingivitis

Chesko: there. There is a [00:05:00] interesting thing about, uh, because this has been a common theme. I'm not saying this is a guy from the manosphere. I think this is just a guy that hasn't come to terms with some,

Regan: yeah.

Chesko: Uh, beliefs about the world. Um, but, uh, there, there's a common theme on these manosphere things about like, not going down or like, oh, if you're gonna do

Regan: your code,

Chesko: yeah, if you're gonna, if you're gonna like force yourself to do that, then you better.

But they, they, they, they treat it, they talk about it as if vaginas are the most disgusting thing in the world.

Regan: I. Am baffled by this as absolutely

Chesko: baffled as the resident

Regan: lesbian here. I don't understand how men think. It makes them look more masculine and more straight to talk at length about how they hate vaginas.

Like, do you know what [00:06:00] that like the, the dudes are the most homophobic, the most. Terrified, like won't hold their girlfriend's purse. Mm-hmm. Won't wear pink. But we'll get on podcasts and be like, oh, yucky, vaginas are gross. I don't like 'em. Gimme wieners all day.

Chesko: You know when you and your buddies are like doing a circle jerk with each other, isn't that like, that's like, that's beautiful.

That's art. That's when

Regan: it's not gross also. Ugh.

Chesko: Keep your pants on.

Regan: I'm sorry. What men are packing is not, you know, art either. What are we talking about? I don't,

Chesko: I don't know. And

Regan: also what is, how we talking about when he is like, oh, you just made your babysitter match. Yeah. Are.

Chesko: Kind a very weird that, that very, very, his daughter

Regan: saw his co-host, that's his daughter.

Chesko: Yeah. It took a very weird place.

Regan: I know. Like,

Chesko: yeah.

Regan: If he is grossed out by one vagina, why are we thinking he is getting two and the babysitter, how old is she?

Chesko: Yeah. I feel, I feel like, uh, [00:07:00] Howie was trying to like. Take it from a less awkward place and made it more awkward. Yeah. Or was enough? Oh, I don't like

Regan: this vagina talk.

Let's take it to having an affair with a babysitter.

Chesko: Yeah. Yeah.

Regan: Great job. Howie really like classing up the joint. I can't believe that man said that. And like odor and then like the lips thing and they're like, how many lips do you think they have? He's like 800. Have you seen a vagina?

Chesko: They have not, they go like this, they go, they closes their eyes really tight and pretend it's their buddy that they're hanging out with.

Regan: I just like, if you don't like women, then you should come out and say, I just don't understand how, they don't understand the implication of that.

Chesko: I know.

Regan: That is supposedly the sexual organ you are attracted to.

Chesko: I think it's a, uh, the reason I think also this is worthy of being mocked is that it's, it's an extension of like degradation of women and misogyny a hundred percent.

To like, to, to just like, but it, but it doesn't feel to them like it is. Like, it feels like, oh, I'm just [00:08:00] describing. Well, I don't, I I think it's gross. That's where you pee out of, right? There's I know.

Regan: I think they know. I think they get off on it. Yeah. I think they get off because there's such a joy when they do it.

Like he's got its dumb ass smirk on his face. Mm-hmm. As he's saying how yucky they're yucky and stinky, or whatever the hell he is talking about. Uh, there is a joy to it. I think they get it off. Mm-hmm. Degrading women. Mm-hmm. Because if it was the opposite, they would be pissed.

Mm-hmm.

Because I like if we're talking about degrading, like for women, what they degrade is like smell like slips.

Mm-hmm. Whatever. Mm-hmm. Oh, for men it's like size. Mm-hmm. And so if their wife was on there talking about how tiny they are

Chesko: mm-hmm. And

Regan: how gross they are, they would absolutely understand that that's not an appropriate way to talk about them. So either they're degrading for fun or they're trying to look cool for the guys, because God forbid they actually be into women, like, God forbid, [00:09:00] they enjoy.

The experience with the woman.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. There was another clip, uh, I didn't say this one, but it was two guys that were having a discussion about like, uh, and it, it was a weird dis another weird discussion. There's like, I get my algorithm on, uh, Instagram because I get tagged in so of these guys, it's so fucked up.

The Hellscape. Um, it's so bad. But it was two guys on a podcast shocking, uh, that were talking about. Like there's a level where else would they be? Yeah. And it started off where it was, it was like gross, but it was like, it was like not. Necessarily into the realm of evil. They're like, there's a le like, I feel honored when a woman like Will, like, will trust me by sending a picture of her vagina to me.

Uh, like they're like, 'cause boobs are like, boobs are not that big of a deal with that. She chose, she trusts me and at first I was like, where's this going? And then. One of them says like, especially if it's the kind of vagina you like or so, and they're like, they start like vagina shaming about like if it's Yeah.

What? Yeah, it's what wrong

Regan: with you?

Chesko: And then they realize it and they're like, no, but I mean all of 'em are great. They're all [00:10:00] great. And they're like, they catch themselves in the middle of it, but then they still posted it online.

Regan: Well, I mean, Matt Rife was on a podcast shaming vaginas. He shamed a vagina.

He knew. It was on a woman. He knew it was not, it was not like, it's,

Chesko: it's my friend outer Libya.

Regan: It's just a walking vagina to him. It's,

Chesko: yeah,

Regan: to him, it's, but he was, yeah, he was just talking about like a certain type of vagina that was gross. And like, I'm not even gonna say what he said because it, I, I just don't wanna shame vaginas on even to repeat it, is to be, uh, gross about it.

Mm-hmm. But, um, it's, it's shocking. It's shocking to me like. You just have to make women feel bad. Like, is that what it is? You take this. Mm-hmm. Like you have to degrade them in some way. You have to take this thing that they can't really change. Although apparently a lot of women get surgeries. Right. If they're in a particular industry.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: To get the right looking one. And it's just like, why? To me? Like, like, oh, I just don't [00:11:00] understand. Like, I can't imagine as someone who loves women, like I try to put this. Tastefully seeing something that you love so much. Mm-hmm. And being like, degrading that. What I wanna be, why

Chesko: without waiting gr I wanna say be clear.

We're on the same page here. I know that we agree on this issue. Uh, there, there's a, there's a sculptor or like someone that has like an art project around that was supposed to like, uh, that does like, uh, plaster casts of vaginas and she has like, there's like thousands of 'em. It's like this whole art show, um, kind of thing that's showing like the diversity of it to kind of combat this exact idea.

'cause I think you're right though. I think, and I, I'm only speaking from what I read online, obviously I've never. Lived having a vagina. Right. Or, uh, but I was like,

Regan: where are you going with this? No, no.

Chesko: But you hear about so many women that end up feeling the need to have surgery or feeling like really ashamed or feeling bad about not having a very specific type of looking vagina.

As if the, as if it's gross. [00:12:00] Otherwise, as if some, as if it's something to be hidden otherwise. And it's so sad it comes from bullshit like this though.

Regan: Let me tell you right now. Mm-hmm. Just like all boobs are great. I, that's my opinion and I think it's a fact.

Chesko: Seconded,

Regan: all vaginas are beautiful. There's not a specific way any vagina is supposed to look.

Mm-hmm. Point blank period. And any man or any person of any gender that has made you feel self-conscious about your vagina for whatever reason. Is an asshole.

Mm-hmm.

Point, like that's it. And also is probably a misogynist and is trying to degrade you in some way. That is a horrific thing to do to somebody.

Mm-hmm. Especially when it's like not something they can control. And also you must not be very attracted to it. Ask the lesbians. Mm-hmm. We love, we are all about that area and like when men think it's cool to act like they're disgusted by it, oh, I'm not going down there. Boobs only.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Then you're not that attracted to women, dude.

Mm-hmm. [00:13:00] Period. One or the other one or the other. Mm-hmm. You can't be both, you can't be super straight, but hate vaginas. Mm-hmm. Like, that's not how that goes. It's literally like the main part of being straight.

Chesko: Yeah. It doesn't make any sense to me. Like, like logically there's no. There's, I don't get it. I just, I don't get it.

Regan: How can you, it's like, I, uh, my friend Abby, I've had her on my, the other podcast a couple times. Mm-hmm. But she's like, there's a point where misogyny gets so intense that it almost goes into being a homosexual, like, you're so straight, you're gay. Mm-hmm. Be for these men, because it's like. They, they wanna act like anything that is feminine or, or womanly is disgusting, including their genitalia, like their genitals.

Mm-hmm. Then you degrading that consistently.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Makes me think you're not attracted to that either you're a faker or maybe you're not as straight as you think.

Chesko: I don't know

Regan: what else there is to say about

Chesko: that. And the thing is, we, we, we say that [00:14:00] not in a way to like shame them for not being straight, but if you're going to be like so aggressively misogynistic about it, you need to come to terms of where that hatred is coming from.

Yeah. Right. Where that fear is coming from. Uh, 'cause that's what it is, that they're scared of, what they're feeling, they're scared of. So it must just be like, I'm gonna find other guys that also have this same hate and we, and we're gonna join in together to make us feel better and not have to come to terms with what we're actually feeling.

Regan: I, I mean, I think it's hating women. I think it's also a very easy way for men to yet again, like widen that pleasure gap and like not mm-hmm. Not care at all about pleasing women in any way. Yeah. Like make sex about them and them only is to be like, that's, I don't, I'm not, I'm not down for that. I don't wanna do that.

Mm-hmm. So then basically the woman, you're just using her for sex because you have no intention of, of caring about her pleasure or what she wants or taking care of her. So she's basically. Just an object you're utilizing and I think, I [00:15:00] think they like that type of rhetoric and like mm-hmm. Validating and justifying thinking that way to again, treat women like shit and make it acceptable to do that.

Like it's crazy to me that women can hear that and not all collectively go, that's fucked up. And like mm-hmm you're treating me really poorly. Like it is very commonplace for men to insult. Uh, women in that in general, but per particularly in that area. And like to me, I, I do not understand that you're lucky.

You, you are lucky enough to be with a woman and to be intimately close with a woman, which to me is such a sacred, wonderful, amazing thing.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. And

Regan: you spend that time degrading her. Mm-hmm. And then there's a loneliness epidemic.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Oh. That's crazy. I wonder, I wonder if any of these things are related.

Chesko: Why did, why'd she leave me? Yeah. Outta nowhere. Outta nowhere. She just, like I said,

Regan: yuck.

Chesko: Yeah. And then she left. I mean, I used to gag while whatever she took off her [00:16:00] underwear. But like, I don't get it though. Like, that's normal, right?

Regan: I mean, I, I don't know. It's like I can't believe that they actually are that grossed out by it.

Like, like, honestly. I don't, I think it's just makes them feel cool and again, allows them to be derogatory.

Chesko: The thing is, I feel like in this particular clip, it really was him saying it thinking, well, you know how it's, that's gross. Like it, it was like he was, it was like saying it as if it was like common knowledge, right?

Because this was, he's never, he's never, 'cause the people he's surrounding himself with apparently also feel this way, which is. Mind blowing. If one of my buddies said that to me when we were younger, I would be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Regan: I know I would have conversations I'm not willing to have on this podcast, but I'd be like, what?

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: Whatcha talking about? Are you actually nuts?

Chesko: I don't understand. I don't wanna say any man. I wanna be clear, but it's, you'll hear younger guys saying it. [00:17:00] I was so excited whenever I got. But just like for the, the, the, the, uh, I was like, we get to have a meeting this, oh, this is great. I cannot fathom getting into that mind So sucked down that rabbit hole of like this, this red pill anti-woman, anti like, like perspective where, where the, the.

You just, where you end up repeating and actually believing this kind of shit and like it, I don't get it. It just, there's nothing in there that makes any sense to me as a, as a, as a man who was attracted to women. That does not make any sense to me.

Regan: Also, if we're talking about hygiene, uh, I'm pretty sure men are known to not have as good of hygiene.

They don't even wipe their butts.

Chesko: Did you see the video I just posted today? Probably not.

Regan: What, where

Chesko: there's another in the series of hygiene issues for men.

Regan: Oh my God, what is it?

Chesko: It's a guy that was, and this person, I, I don't want to. [00:18:00] I'm just gonna say it. He says, women, you have to teach your man that they're supposed to be sitting down when they wipe.

'cause apparently most men are standing straight up and like wiping. And that's, I I, I think in my, my analysis is this explains why so many men have skid marks is they're not like in a squat position. They're not. They're not. They're like, apparently. And it was very common 'cause I even got an email already from someone saying, uh, actually I think you're off from a guy.

Actually I think you're off on this one. Uh, I don't understand. I'm, I'm able to keep myself very clean standing straight up after defecating, and he explained, he explained this person in the email, explained this process to me. I'm like,

Regan: first of all, don't need to know.

Chesko: Don't, didn't. You don't need to tell me how you've managed to overcome.

You're wiping

Regan: issues the

Chesko: proper way to, uh, to wipe, uh, which is all it, it, the whole thing was a good argument for a bidet. Like, like, we need to adapt bidets in this country. We need

Regan: bidets for these men. But it's, I, [00:19:00] I don't think either, I don't think any gender, I, I don't think anybody, whatever anybody's got going down there at all should be shamed.

But like the points that they have that these men have a problem with.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. Ah,

Regan: you're, they're not, you would do that too, buddy. Like, I don't

Chesko: get it. I don't know if, like, my hygiene thing is like, I'm very particular about my hygiene 'cause I'm like, I just, I feel weird if I'm not super clean everywhere at all times.

Mm-hmm. I don't know if it's an autistic thing or just like that. It was just a like a, a me thing, but like, I, I don't understand how guys are just walking around with like. Cake down there. Like, that's

Regan: so gross. No, eh, point being, I just, I just from a logical standpoint. Yeah.

Chesko: With that in mind, I think that, that, that's important to bring into this conversation.

Yes. There's, and it's not like, oh, because, because there were thousands of women that were that comment section of those videos that were sharing stories of their ex-husbands and ex-partners. Leaving. I'm not gonna, we don't, we've a [00:20:00] whole episode about this before that we're sharing stories about this happening.

So this is not an uncommon thing. So you add into that.

Regan: Mm-hmm.

Chesko: And then you have the audacity. The audacity. You've

Regan: got dirty drawers and you have the audacity to come from vaginas. My God.

Chesko: Like they, there, there were videos of guys before. I remember that. Other people, I didn't respond to these 'cause there were so many good responses already to it, but like of them not understanding why there would be discoloration on, uh, panties.

Uh, sometimes not understanding that like any what discharges not understanding what anything to do. 'cause they apparently never paid any attention during their basic, uh, sex ed. Or maybe they didn't have sex ed classes. That's, this is why we need comprehensive sex education in this country. Above and beyond other reasons, but, uh, like, yeah, yeah, like the, the, you cannot throw stones when you are, when, when our gender is really struggling with some really serious hygiene issues.

There was that, there was that other video I made about, uh, the [00:21:00] Australian uh, uh, health ministry. I had to make a full like, series of videos about teaching men how to clean their penises. Uh, first first. And apparently, and it's not that, and this was not spec. The, the Australia is the one who finally stepped up and made the videos.

We've gotta do this boy. But apparently, like this is an issue. Cross country, this is not a cultural thing. This is just around the world. So like I said, there's so many hygiene issues going on. Are they projecting? Is that what it is? Like they're like, oh.

Regan: I mean, I honestly think aside from maybe somebody had a bad experience, I don't know, but I think that it's just like they get off on it.

I think they get off on degrading women because like, there's just no way. There's just no way. If you're actually straight that and you want to sleep with women

Chesko: mm-hmm.

Regan: That you would be saying the things that you're saying, unless you are trying to get points with the boys, unless you're, you get off onto grading women, unless you want women to hate their [00:22:00] bodies.

Like I, it just, I don't understand. I, I, I cannot comprehend it. Mm-hmm. I refuse to comprehend it because like I have seen how much men get very. Upset about shaming of their genitalia when it comes to size. Mm-hmm. Like that's a serious thing mm-hmm. That they get very upset about. Uh, and, and rightfully so.

Rightfully.

Chesko: Right. You shouldn't be, nobody should be shaming. No. Should be shamed. Anybody. But,

Regan: but like, I, I think they absolutely understand the implications mm-hmm. Of what they say, and I think that's why they say them.

Chesko: Yeah. No, I mean, it's, you're right. I, I do wonder. How much of it is like a, a preemptive way to make my partner feel bad about herself.

Mm-hmm. So she doesn't end up, so she won't mock me, so she doesn't make fun of me, so she doesn't mm-hmm. It's like this, this way of like, I, like I can do less bullies. So that Yeah.

Regan: I mean, like, that's DJ Cali's, like, I don't do that. It's like, tell me you suck in bed.

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: Like, okay. But I think, I think it is just a way of, but it

Chesko: doesn't suck in bed.[00:23:00]

Boom, boom, boom.

Regan: Uh, I think, uh, there's lots of straight women who, like, they, their partner does not do that to them at all, period. Will not have, do anything other than like, act like penetrative sex with them.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. And

Regan: that's it.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Maybe hands, I don't know, but like it's, and that's normalized and that's crazy because men definitely want.

Head, like they want that back. Mm-hmm. On their, so this conversation's impossible. I'm just saying that that's normalized, which is insane.

Chesko: You've, I mean, how many, uh, times have you heard of a woman, uh, getting divorced or realizing later in life she's a lesbian and realizing, oh, I am capable of having an orgasm?

Regan: A hundred percent during

Chesko: se it happens. All the time where the Oh, it was just, I was with a partner who had no interest in both and it, part of it comes down from this whole, and this is, this is [00:24:00] once again, comes back to men being insecure about this. From hearing feedback from your partner. Mm-hmm. Right?

From being willing to hear them, like, you know, say, Hey, that's not working for me. Right. 'cause, 'cause you're, you're forced into pretending like they're the greatest lover in the world because their ego can't handle Right. Realizing that, that you're faking it or that you didn't finish, uh, in that regard.

And so you have all of these guys that are like, absolutely. Oblivious to it, but they're cre and so they, it's like they're, they're creating a situation for themself where they're an embarrassment to themself and to their partner because their partner doesn't feel comfortable enough to tell them, Hey, you, this is, this is bad.

I would like, I, this is bad. I would like it if you could, you try something different. Could we try doing it this way? Well,

Regan: that's like Myron from Fresh and Fit, um, I did a. Video about him. He got on his podcast and said that a woman's orgasm isn't necessary. He doesn't care about it and like it rarely happens for him.

And I was like, shocking. Oh my [00:25:00] God. I was like, how are you proud of this? Like, are you trying to reclaim being not able to pledge a woman? Like no, I did on purpose. Mm-hmm. I didn't want a pleasure. It's. What, like what? He's

Chesko: not the first person because I've responded to a different guy making the video.

Very similar video to that.

Regan: Like, you think it makes you manly because you can't pleasure woman 'cause you are bad at sex. Like that's what that is. Like you're trying to, once

Chesko: again, it's, go ahead.

Regan: Well, they're trying to act like, oh, I don't even want to. Mm-hmm. I'm like, it's easy to say when you can't.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. They're like, I have realizing now they, it's like they have a click in their head where they realize at some point, oh my god. She's never orgasmed. So I have to preemptively say it's been 30 years. I didn't, it's been 30 years. Uhoh like, like Ben Shapiro said, like,

Regan: well, he is like, they don't get wet.

Who is that? There's no, yeah, you need to go to a doctor. And we're all like, oh no, Ben Benny,

Chesko: boy. Benny. Benny. Be sweet. Benny. Benny boy. Oh, but it's this idea like, oh, [00:26:00] well no, this is, that's weird. If she's feeling pleasure, like that means you're failing as a man. Because you're, because you're elevating her once above your own that that's why she's never finished, because that, that, that's not manly to be good at what you do, but you better.

So help me. You better make me think I'm really good at it.

Regan: Yeah, yeah.

Chesko: You better the great exact, what movie was it with? Uh, I think it's John Ham and like Tina Fey, where he is like rubbing her boob and he is like, oh, you like that? Is that good? Like what was that like?

Regan: Are you talking about bridesmaid?

Was it

Chesko: bridesmaid video with Yeah. Him and, uh,

Regan: he's like.

Not really. I do think

Chesko: there, there's guys out there that are like that. This is it. This is your love and this,

Regan: well, I also think a lot of men have their approach that they do with all women. Mm-hmm. My, like, you'll, you'll see [00:27:00] men or talk, hear men talk about like, my move, the move that works every time.

Right. And it's just like that's, that doesn't exist. Like every woman is different. Every body is different. Mm-hmm. There's no move that works every time. It's like they're so fixated on their way, the way they wanna do it. Um, that they don't account for women being people. Mm-hmm. Like they don't account for different wants and desires and it's like, yeah.

So if you're approaching it that way, like you just do these three things, you always do with whatever woman, like without taking in any feedback. Mm-hmm. Uh, yeah, you're not gonna have a high success rate.

Chesko: And if you're with the, theoretically, if you're with, if you have an open and honest relationship and communication about this with your partner, it should get better and better as you like are with through each of your other, right.

Not worse. It should be not worse. Not like, alright, let's finish this

Regan: finisher.

Chesko: And then he is like, alright.

Regan: Oh my God, don't, I can't, I can't believe men are talk. [00:28:00] Well, I can believe it 'cause I've seen. I mean, I'm my, also, I have a hellscape of a feed as well, but. I just, I can't believe they think that makes them look cool.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: It's like, um, and like I, I think we're just finally getting to a point where women are also like, no, dude, that's messed up. I'm not into that. Uh, where before I think they, the, they had so much power and control mm-hmm. And like women weren't having as open of a dialogue. You know, obviously I think the internet and social media has really been, uh, a good place for women to communicate about shit that's going on for them.

Mm-hmm. And there's less shame than there used to be.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. And

Regan: I think finally women are like, oh shit. Your, your guy did that to you. I thought that was just to me. And like, women are seeing that there's all different shapes and sizes down there and like mm-hmm. I think that's. Put women in a better position to then say, oh no, you're being an asshole.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: That's not a preference. You're being an asshole to me. Like, you're, you're the way that you talk about [00:29:00] my body, it's something that cannot change, but still wanting to sleep with me. Mm-hmm. No, I don't think so. I, I think I, I have more self-respect. And you don't respect women at all. And you are, you are very misogynistic, I think.

Mm-hmm.

Chesko: I do wonder if, yeah, like back to what you were saying too, like the, the very fact that like, he was like, the guy was like, I love boobs, but I don't like vagina. Mm-hmm.

Regan: It

Chesko: has to do with the fact that not, maybe I'm not focusing on this guy, but like in general, when you hear this conversation going on, uh, has to, to your point to do with the fact that the boobs are, not, that they're not for men, but they're like, men view them as like, oh, those are my play things.

Yes. And the vagina has to do with pleasuring. Yep. But you know, that's, that's where the pleasure center is, right? Yeah. And so, uh, the, the idea of like, oh, well I can't like that. Or Why should I care about that? That's about her. I should care about the things that I like.

Regan: Well, there's a theory that like men only, like, [00:30:00] uh, not all men, not all men, not all men, but, um, misogynistic men only like a woman being sexual if it's against her, will, like, they only like sexualization.

Like, uh, if there's a, you know. Women on, on the street that you can ale at, then you think that's great and fine. But if a woman is embracing her sexuality mm-hmm. And posting like OnlyFans or whatever, you probably still like that, but you think mm-hmm. You, you wanna give some world judgment on her. Mm-hmm.

And it's because they, they don't want women to own their sexuality. Mm-hmm. And they own it. It's almost like against their will in some way. So it's like boobs are like, you can stare at them, you can fantasize about them like. Just, and a woman is just existing, your adoration of her, it doesn't do anything for her, right?

Mm-hmm. Um, but the second you get, you know, down downtown, right? Right. That obviously is something that's pleasuring her. And I think [00:31:00] then they're like, Ugh, gross that, oh, that's for her. Yuck.

Chesko: And to, to that conversation too, I think there's always like this. There's this, it goes back to the conquering metaphor, this idea of like a woman, they, they'll be attracted to a woman looking sexual looking in, uh, wearing tight clothing or less clothing.

But then the second they're together, they expect them to be like, okay, now cover all that up.

Regan: Right?

Chesko: Stop doing, change everything about the thing that attracted me to you. Yeah, you need to stop that. Now, there was a video of a guy that made a video, like a religious video that was like, this is why the, uh, if you're a religious.

Person, your wife should not be wearing a thong bikini on, on the beach. Uh, and it was like, well, was she wearing thongs when you guys started dating? Yeah. Was that, was that then, then that's, then you need to accept That's what she feels comfortable and that's what she likes wearing. And it's not your job to be like, Hey, excuse me, you're with That's, that's from my eyes.

And my eyes. My eyes do,

Regan: and gods,

Chesko: it's so weird just expecting someone to change [00:32:00] everything about who they are. When that was the person that they were, when you were attracted to them, theoretically when you started, when you approached them?

Regan: Well, and like even with their attraction, like even if we look at like attracting, they're attracted to boobs or whatever is, is what they say all the time.

Yet they're very derogatory of boobs too. Like, like, uh, if they're stretch marks, men will be like, ah, mm-hmm But they're not perfectly perky or whatever. Mm-hmm. And you're like. Are you only attracted to the look of tiny chest and or fake boobs? Like is that what you're into? Like things that don't look like, it's like they reject anything that looks the way nature,

Chesko: right.

Regan: Makes them, you know what I mean? Like, I'm, I'm like, they're boobs, the stretch marks. That's 'cause they're boobs, they're, they're, they grow like mm-hmm. I thought like they'll say they like big boobs, but they won't like that. And you're like, what is, what is happening? Right. You want a doll, like you want a doll.

Mm-hmm. You want someone that looks exactly how [00:33:00] you picture it. You want to take away any aspect of their humanity. Mm-hmm. Which is like, stretch marks are a life that's been lived, you know? Mm-hmm. Are a body. 'cause they

Chesko: want an 18-year-old. With big boobs is what it is. I mean,

Regan: truly, but like, if you look at it like they don't want anything unique about a woman.

Mm-hmm. Like, that's so fucking weird. Mm-hmm. To like, not want someone's body. Like, you should love what makes your partner's body unique. Mm-hmm. Like, like you should know what it is and you should love every aspect of it. And like to, to hate everything that makes a woman unique. Like, that's so, mm. Weird.

Like, yuck. That's yuck. That's what's, yeah. He's like, I

Chesko: can't, I can't show that up to my buddies. 'cause if I, if it's not, if it's not exactly the way that the podcast guy said, a woman's body should look and they realize that I'm not with somebody that matches up this 0.01% fake like aspect of what a woman should, should be, then they're gonna judge me.

Crazy. Like there, it's crazy. There are videos of guys [00:34:00] that are, are constantly, I should have like, I don't know, we've been referencing a lot of videos without showing videos. This, this podcast. Um, but there's videos of guys that are like, you absolutely should judge a man based on the partner he is with and like, is she blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and all that.

Like if, if, if you're noticing X, Y, and Z about your his partner, you realize that that's what he, that's the standard he sets for himself and all this kind of ew bullshit that goes into it. Um. And it's, but that, that's the perspective. 'cause it's all about worrying, about looking inferior to, to the men in your group.

And that's, that goes back to, uh, what, what is toxic masculinity is this idea you're harming yourself. You're depriving yourself of happiness and you're harming your partner, right? All for the sake of impressing and looking impressive to the men in your social circle.

Regan: And it's so fleeting. Like everything that.

The, the manosphere and like [00:35:00] patriarchy and mis like misogynist, like everything they value is so fleeting. It's so terrifying because you just can't have long-term success, particularly with a partner. Mm-hmm. Like, they don't want women to age at all. Mm-hmm. That's why, you know, you see like second wives, third wives even.

Yeah. Fourth wives, like they. It takes away any ability to see a woman as a human being and therefore to have a connection with one because. You can't love the things, the beautiful things about like aging with someone and like having a really good partner. Mm-hmm. It, it immediately tells you to throw out and like, devalue and be grossed out by, like, women are like cars.

You need the newest model. Mm-hmm. You need to re-up, like, it's just horrifying and like, of course you all aren't happy. Of course it's 50 year olds on, on the mano spheres, like talking shit. Mm-hmm. Because. They are in the same situation because they've done that.

Chesko: Right. I wouldn't. I wrote an [00:36:00] article in my substack, uh, just last week about the stat that, um, you know, one third of women under 30 are single, but two thirds of men under 30 are single.

And it's because of the fact that the hidden, the hidden stat is there that, uh, older men are then dating. So, so many older men are dating younger women. Oh God, that I, and I put, I put it, I was like, you wanna talk about the cause of the male loneliness epidemic, right? Mm-hmm. And it's, it's the, it's these, these old predatory men.

That are seeking out these, the, they're leaving their partners that are, are abandoning their relationships with, with people that are around roughly their age and seeking out women that are younger because they look more impressive to someone that has not. We've talked about that before and I'm always very careful in that conversation.

I was like, I don't wanna make it sound like I'm saying that young women are dumb or that they're not capable, or that they're not smart, but like regardless of gender, someone that has lived [00:37:00] 20 years more than another person. Is going to have more, more knowledge about the world or, or at least about manipulation, about, and they're also probably going to have more resources like money and a job and other things that, that me as a 20-year-old guy would not have as a 20-year-old individual, wouldn't have.

Um, and so I was like, they're, they're so mad at the, at uh. Women, but it's really, it's these old creepy dudes. They're ske going on these for these age gap relationships that are these predatory ones. Once again, not exceptions to the role where they're, occasionally there are age gap relationships that are organically happening, but these guys that are consistently going after only women that are like 10 to 20 years younger than them, um, that are, that are then making it so that there aren't as many women that are, are.

Dating younger guys or guys their own age as well as because of these same guys. And then they're wondering why are, why are there so many young guys that are, are not in a relationship?

Regan: Well, I mean, it just [00:38:00] comes down to like, you can't be with women if you hate on women. Mm-hmm.

Like

if you, these younger guys are hating on women's body or hating on women for so many different reasons.

We've seen a big uptick in like red pill rhetoric and manosphere content, and men going that route. And then the older men, like they hate what makes women, women, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, they hate anything outside of a Barbie doll looking woman. Mm-hmm. Young woman. Like the body type they want is frighteningly young.

Right.

And it's, it's, it's just shocking to me because like if you just looked at it from an outside perspective, you'd be like, oh, they don't like women.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. They

Regan: wanna sleep with women.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. But they

Regan: don't like anything about them really. They want like a cookie cutter body, and that's about it.

Chesko: If they actually liked the whole of women, they would be dating around their own age though too.

Because you have way more in common. Yeah, just in, in general. You have within, at least within like five to [00:39:00] 10 years, if not less than that. Right. Like the, the once you get above 10 years, I'd say, then you start getting too, I, I'd say when you're younger, especially once you get in your thirties when you're younger.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When and when we're talking about like when, when these 40-year-old guys are dating 20 year olds. Yeah. So like that. Not, not necessarily If you're a 30-year-old woman. Dating an older guy. Sure. At that point, you know, um, but you, you, if you actually did like women, you're that you'd, you'd probably be dating someone that you actually like above and beyond their ability to look a certain way.

Right. It's like you like the idea of a very specific type of woman that you're willing to lie then to, to get or to manipulate, to hopefully overlook all of these other horrible things about you.

Regan: I'm so horrified by this. Let's, let's do the last video real quick.

Chesko: Okay, this one might also horrify you, but oh God.

Clip: Very, very rare that you find a woman who understands boy humor. Meaning 99.9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9. 9% of the videos that you send your girl that you thought was funny is not funny, bro. [00:40:00] She's gonna be like, fuck you, I didn't like it. Don't send that shit to me again. I do not wanna have that conversation. You hurt my feelings, and then you're gonna feel like the asshole.

But in reality. You should have just sent the video to me. 'cause I would laugh. Don't send it to the girl that you were about to sleep with, spend the rest of your life with, I have to sit down with and watch movies with because they're not gonna get, what are you sending her?

Regan: What? Then she's like, oh my God, never sending calling. I'm calling the cops

Chesko: like you. This is horrible. Why? What are you sending? I, I saw this and all I could think about was like, like my algorithm's bad, but nothing like, I can't even imagine what I would say to my wife and she would look at me like. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Regan: That's insane. I didn't like that.

Chesko: It's joke. Like, what? What is it?

Regan: What's your humor?

Chesko: There has to be some sort of hidden algorithm that I have not somehow stumbled onto yet.

Regan: Well, it to say that's boy humor, like, well, you know, the boys are the most disturbing thing that what a boys,

Chesko: eh,

Regan: send that to me all, all day.

It's like, I love that. Like there's [00:41:00] no realm in which they reflect on their own humor and their own like outlook. The only, the only thing is, well, girls just don't like funny shit.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Like when a girl's horrified by what you sent to the point that she like, is telling you, don't ever send me that again.

Chesko: The only thing I can think of is like the, that Matt Rife joke, the, uh, the Aus one. Like, is that, is that like the, there must be a whole, the Aus ones. So, but you were to let that slide.

Clip: Mm-hmm.

Chesko: No, no, no. Like, I'm assuming there must, that must be a genre now. Like there has to be something on there like,

Regan: like anti-woman.

Mm-hmm. Maybe like an injury, someone getting injured. I could see like a jackass style video, but I, I it, that's very scary. Also, like. Uh, your partner should know what you think is funny though, like you shouldn't just hide this like side of you, like Dr. Juggle, Mr. Hyde.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Style humor where like you're in the lab late at night sending memes to your boys because mm-hmm.

You can't let her see that [00:42:00] side of you, like mm-hmm. Your partner should know what you think is funny and probably does. Like, I, I guarantee you, I have dated people who, particularly like when I was younger, who probably shared stupid shit that I would not think was funny. Mm-hmm. And I wish I would've known earlier because there's a lot of boys and men out there that really like to hide, like hide that side.

Like they'll have like the girlfriend side and then

Chesko: mm-hmm.

Regan: The boys side, which are like. I suppose any gender could do that, but I see it a lot with men where they're like, oh, I'll just do this was the, this is for the boys and I think Go ahead. Go

Chesko: ahead. I was just say, there's, it's one thing to have, you don't have to have everything in common with your, your partner, right?

Sure. Like, like, like my, my wife and I like a lot of the same shit. We both like a lot of nerdy shows, we. Dr. Who, and Star Trek. And Star Wars, all those, like we, we like Marvel movies, et cetera. But my wife does not like comic books. Like she doesn't read them. And I, I've mentioned before on this podcast, I read thousands [00:43:00] of them and every once in a while I'll realize I'll start going on a tangent like, oh yeah, but I was reading this one book.

And I'll, and I'll see her kind of glaze over looking at me like. I'm being supportive of you wanting to tell and I'll realize, oh yeah, I forgot now this isn't our thing and that's okay. Sure. That's not our thing to have, but that's different than like, if the hidden part of me was that, I like, I don't even know, like whatever is is is apparently horrifying.

Your partner about it.

Regan: I mean, I definitely think. There's a part of you, you like a certain thing or, or think things are funny because again, it's not that you think something's funny, it's the deep rooted belief behind why you think it's funny. Mm-hmm. Like if something, a racist joke, you think that's funny and you're racist, that's a problem.

Right? If a sexist joke. Like, it's the fact that you're sexist, that's a problem. Mm-hmm. And so I think there are things that are like core to who you are. Like if you know that your partner would not wanna be around [00:44:00] you, like that's incredibly deceptive. Like it's not good for you either because you should be able to be your true self around your partner, but also really not fear to your partner to hide this huge aspect that, you know, if you gave her a hint of, she would say, never send me that again.

I don't like that. Mm-hmm. Like.

Chesko: It's like the guys you end, they think it's funny to like rub cake all in the wi the hair of their wife on like their Oh my God. I know, I know. That's a whole nother, we get a whole episode on. Mm. There there was one video the other day that, um, I haven't responded to it.

There was a, a groom, I, I assume it's a real video. I didn't, I haven't dug into it yet. Uh, it was holding his wife for a picture over the pool and like her wedding gown.

Regan: No.

Chesko: And he, and he drops her in. And they're all laughing. They're like, ah, I am. Like, I would go, if I was at, if that was my daughter's wedding murder, I would go to jail that night.

Like that, that I would, yeah, there's no world where I would see someone disrespecting. Mm-hmm.

Regan: Someone

Chesko: like that where I would just be like,

Regan: ah, that's so funny. You got like, what? That's not [00:45:00] funny. I've seen one where the guy and the girl jump into the pool, like they act like they're both gonna jump and then the guy does not jump.

Like he just lets her jump in. And it was the same thing. Yeah. It's like, again, it's why you think that's funny? Yeah. It's Why is that? Everyone's like, it's just a joke. It's just a joke. But why is it funny to you? Mm-hmm.

Chesko: What part of your is degrading women is funny. Funny. My wife looked like an idiot.

Look how dumb she looked. Huh. That's funny. And I didn't look dumb.

Regan: I looked great.

Chesko: I looked wonderful, and she looked dumb and bad. Now that's funny.

Regan: Oh my God. Yeah. I, you know, I have a big issue with men who think, uh, doing stuff like that, like. Pranking culture in general.

Yeah.

Um, especially if it's with your wife, but it's like harming her, humiliating her.

Mm-hmm. If you consistently wanna do that to her. Yeah. That's a problem for me.

Chesko: Although, you know what videos [00:46:00] I hate more than anything else on the internet. I guess not, not more than real one. Well, that's a strong stance. I, they make me so. Upset when I see them. Like there's, there's a lot of videos that make me upset, but specific, it's the prank videos that are so very clearly fake and the comment sections have no idea, like, how did she not see the, that?

How did she not know? And, and, and it's like hundreds if not thousands of people that are commenting like, what? I can't believe she fell for that. I'm like, I hate. The people commenting, as much as I hate the people making these

Regan: videos. Yeah. There's a phone like clearly standing right in front of them.

They don't see the phone or like somebody's hidden and like, oh, they don't see that, they don't see that person. I can't

Chesko: believe, oh my God, I can't believe I'm gonna do this. And like, I, those make me, those make people arguably more mad than the actual prank you.

Regan: I'll say even more so than that, I'll top go one above that for me is when a couple intentionally [00:47:00] does mean shit.

So like pranks that are mean

Chesko: mm-hmm.

Regan: And make it look real. But it is fake and they're both in on it.

Chesko: Right. Right. Like,

Regan: there was one recently where the, uh, it was like, it's a like happy birthday. On a plate and he like scratches it off before she can take a picture.

Chesko: Mm-hmm. And

Regan: then if you go back, they'll, they're both like, no, they could be lying, but it was like, it was her idea.

We, we thought it would be funny, we're not bad people. Mm-hmm. And it's like, don't try and get views off of like people assuming someone's in trouble. That drives me bonkers. Mm-hmm. When I can tell it's a faked video and they're like, this poor woman, I'm like. Uh, I think we can tell, like you can tell when they're in on it.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: You are like, don't do that, but real

Chesko: situations that do happen. Mm-hmm. And that's the issue because there, there's a account I found the other day. Their entire page is them rage baiting, like these, was it the

Regan: woman vacuuming with the baby?

Chesko: I don't remember what, there was [00:48:00] a bunch of 'em postpartum.

I'm

Regan: like five days postpartum. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just saw her. Oh my God, Jessica.

Chesko: Yeah. And there entire page, just those, those things. Yeah. And so it's very like

Regan: anti anti-woman, like rage bait, like, uh, if you like, like, uh, if you're, if you're left, you're an idiot. Or like if you mm-hmm. If you don't have three kids, like you're worth like just, it was very.

I just could shocked by how anti wound was. But, so she posted just for the listeners, she posted a video of her with like a baby on her arms and like vacuuming and like lifting furniture basically, and saying, I'm five days postpartum and this is what I have to do. Mm-hmm.

Chesko: And

Regan: everybody's buying it and like, you know, put posting comments and trying to help her and get her out of a situation.

And like all she posts is like anti-woman rage bait. And you're like,

Chesko: what?

Regan: Why? Like for views, like. Really '

Chesko: cause because they're not, and it's not even their, uh, their, like I said, they're weaponizing actual pain of other women. Mm-hmm. For the sake of like, oh, I can make people upset and get [00:49:00] views off this and make money off of this.

And it's, it's,

Regan: you have internalized misogyny if you're doing that shit.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: If you're willing to talk, like upset women and start shit with women in order to make money.

Chesko: And it also gives it an excuse for guys to be like, well, that doesn't see, that doesn't actually happen. It's just someone rage baiting.

It's not real. No one's actually doing this. Why are you upset about this?

Regan: It's fake. Fake news. Mm-hmm.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Just like I could not, when I went through her page, I was horrified. Mm-hmm. I was ready to be supportive of her, and I was like, oh, nope. No, nope. This is why I have to, this is why I research every time I do a video, because yeah, there's always one like this whose entire thing is rage bait bullshit.

Chesko: Or the other side of that is where I've critiqued people before multiple times where they're like, he's a comedian. This is a joke. I'm like, Jack Dyer, tell me the joke then. What? It's this one thing. If the joke is, is he mocking men who do this? Right. Then I'd be like, I'd be like, you know what? I missed the joke.

Five. No, no, he's not. He's [00:50:00] mocking the butt of the act like of the victims of, of the people that, who actually believe that homophobia is wrong or that people that believe sexism is wrong like that. When it's a video, when it's a joke. That's mocking actual people being harmed. Mm-hmm. By, or people that believe these things.

That's not a joke. That's, that's still worthy of being critiqued. Right. It's still worthy of me making a video, responding to, uh, it isn't immediately. Well, and, and it's the same people that will get upset at me. I'm like, my, I, I look at my page kinda like a comedy page. Mm-hmm. Right. I'm, I'm having fun, I'm making jokes, and they'll be upset at my videos.

They'll be like, well, I'll be like, well, I'm a comedian. What that? Okay, I'm a

Regan: comedian. Well,

Chesko: it's not funny when you do it.

Regan: We don't like it when it's you. Well, it's like the whole idea of satire. People will use that all the time. Right. And it's like satire punches up, first of all, good

Chesko: satire, at least does.

Yeah.

Regan: Well, yeah, to technically you're supposed to. Yeah. Yeah. Supposed to.

Chesko: Yeah.

Regan: But it's also the group [00:51:00] that you are embodying.

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Would not like and would not find humor in what you're doing. And the group that's oppressed by the group you're embodying finds it funny. Mm-hmm. Like the, it's the oppressed group that enjoys it.

And the, and the group that you're satirizing is the one that has a problem with it. If you're making satire and consistently the, the group, your satire being the, uh. SAT is of, is the group that likes it. Like say you're being a misogynist, but only misogynists like it, and women are really upset by it, then it's no longer satire or it's not successful satire.

Mm-hmm. And so if someone consistently is doing quote unquote satire, but all they do is make content that the oppressive group enjoys

Chesko: mm-hmm.

Regan: Then they're not doing satire anymore. Right. And like, it's crazy how often people will just be like, it's, it's just satire. No, it's not.

Chesko: I have, I have one more example of that.

Uh, that's, this is a very niche, uh, example too that made [00:52:00] me, uh, I got, I got this like from a few years ago. There was a page that I thought was really funny 'cause I understood the joke. It was a, uh, Latino comedy page. Mm-hmm. Uh, that was making fun of stuff from like, about growing up Latino. And I, I'm like, all right.

It was all stuff that I'd experienced that my uncles did, that I saw and that I was all right. This is pretty funny. But then I had a family member on my white side of my family.

Regan: Mm-hmm.

Chesko: That. Also, I found out, thought it was the funniest thing in the world, but I was like, why do you think it was? But he thought it was funny for a different reason.

I was like, yeah, you

Regan: don't have the experience, the lived experience. So what's funny about that?

Chesko: Yeah. And it was very clearly, they just thought it was like. Silly Latinos doing these crazy antics. I'm like, this is hilarious. And I'm like, so it, it was, it was very specific that I was like, I don't like that.

You think the same thing I like and think is funny 'cause I don't, people laughing at the same things.

Regan: Right. And that's a hundred percent the case. It's like, why, why people are laughing. Like is it a shared experience?

Chesko: Mm-hmm.

Regan: Or [00:53:00] is it, oh, it's funny to poke fun or like see them being silly or like, I like to see them in this light.

Mm-hmm. Because that's, it can get dark pretty quick.

Chesko: Well, you know, a good example is that the golf wife one we talked about, oh, if it was the, if it was the wife though, right. Talking to other women about like. These fucking dudes that are golfing and like being a golf widow. Right. And there's other women laughing, but the second men start doing it.

It's the outgroup looking at it and being like, oh, look how funny it is. They think it's upsetting that we do this. Yeah. Right. That, and that's, that's a, I think a, a perfect analogous thing where, uh, you can see that, that mm-hmm. That's, yeah. Then no, no, you're not allowed to laugh at this.

Regan: You're the one doing the bad thing.

You're laughing at the pain you're causing versus commiserating about the pain you're experiencing.

Chesko: Right.

Regan: Those are two very different things. Mm-hmm. What a journey we've taken today.

Chesko: What a journey.

Regan: I did not ever think we'd talk about vaginas this much, but here we are.

Chesko: It was a good show. [00:54:00]

Regan: I tried to be as tasteful as possible, and.

Be careful with my wording and phrasing. See,

Chesko: I don't know if I should monetize the show on YouTube 'cause we put it on there. Like I don't know if it's gonna go pass the checks.

Regan: No. It's gonna be one guy from YouTube being like, yuck. Yeah. Oh gross.

Chesko: They are gross. Demonetized your channel.

Regan: All right, friends, thank you so much for joining us.

As you know, we have a Patreon, so please join that. You get a extra show every week. It's unhinged and very fun. Although God, this episode was very unhinged,

Chesko: got got very political today.

Regan: Oh, I meant the Vagina Talk, but yes. Oh, this episode. Episode. Political. This episode

Chesko: in the pre-show. Yeah. Yeah.

Regan: God, we're on a roll today.

Chesko: We are. Killing it.

Regan: Killing it. Thank you so much for joining us and we will see you all next week.

Chesko: Love you.

Regan: Love you. Bye. Bye.