00:11.462 --> 00:17.247 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, welcome back to another episode of the Baseball America Fantasy podcast, which are host Jeff Ponds.

00:17.787 --> 00:23.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Long side me as always is my co-host Dylan White all the way up in sunny Toronto, Canada.

00:24.532 --> 00:26.234 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going up there right now, man.

00:26.254 --> 00:29.356 [SPEAKER_02]: You got your first place Blue Jays headed into the break.

00:29.376 --> 00:35.701 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, the red socks are scorching hot and starting to nip on their tails a little bit.

00:36.562 --> 00:37.122 [SPEAKER_02]: How you feeling?

00:37.162 --> 00:38.984 [SPEAKER_02]: Head into the second half up there in Toronto.

00:40.183 --> 00:40.663 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

00:40.883 --> 00:44.745 [SPEAKER_00]: There's optimism, which is a dangerous thing.

00:44.785 --> 00:47.746 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a leaf span, you know what can happen when you have optimism.

00:47.806 --> 00:53.989 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, it's people are talking, walking the dog and a lot of people have blue Jay hats on.

00:54.049 --> 00:57.450 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a lot of optimism in the city.

00:57.931 --> 01:01.812 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of optimism and had a pretty good draft.

01:01.832 --> 01:03.093 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk a little bit about

01:04.410 --> 01:08.955 [SPEAKER_02]: MLB draft kind of walk through maybe the top ten talk about some of those players.

01:08.975 --> 01:12.178 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have FYPD rankings out next week.

01:12.298 --> 01:18.524 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to try to tip my hand too much, but I think you'll probably be able to read between the lines a little bit.

01:19.004 --> 01:22.768 [SPEAKER_02]: I was at the draft myself was also at the futures game.

01:23.068 --> 01:24.890 [SPEAKER_02]: Dylan, did you happen to watch the futures game at all?

01:25.610 --> 01:28.033 [SPEAKER_00]: I watched, yeah, I think I watched most of it.

01:29.235 --> 01:32.896 [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me, tell me your first person feelings.

01:33.476 --> 01:33.836 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

01:33.956 --> 01:39.218 [SPEAKER_02]: So every year, we go to the future's game.

01:39.278 --> 01:41.759 [SPEAKER_02]: It's me, JJ, and some other co-workers.

01:41.819 --> 01:47.301 [SPEAKER_02]: But JJ and I have this tradition dating back to my first future's game with BA back in twenty twenty two, where

01:49.212 --> 01:56.297 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't plot out all the home runs any longer, but we do keep a tally and make notes on the BP.

01:56.677 --> 02:03.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of the best opportunity for you to see all of the hitters in the futures game kind of do their thing.

02:05.323 --> 02:10.107 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say, Connor Griffin, incredibly impressive batting practice.

02:11.808 --> 02:15.711 [SPEAKER_02]: Carson Bench, really impressive batting practice actually.

02:16.171 --> 02:17.452 [SPEAKER_02]: And he maybe hits six out.

02:19.327 --> 02:26.052 [SPEAKER_02]: The high was eight until Carter Jensen came up Kevin McGonagill phenomenal BP like

02:26.856 --> 02:34.538 [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as he was like his first two rounds, he was kind of just like line drives, spread it out, you know, pro BP, then he decided to backspin it.

02:34.658 --> 02:37.018 [SPEAKER_02]: And he was just backspin and stuff up at the chop house.

02:37.138 --> 02:39.459 [SPEAKER_02]: Like actually hit some pretty long shots.

02:40.099 --> 02:44.220 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not easy for like a lefty to pull it there because defense is very, very high.

02:45.100 --> 02:51.061 [SPEAKER_02]: Almost think like a green monster, not quite that high, but high out and right field there at truest.

02:51.141 --> 02:53.022 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was pretty impressive.

02:53.462 --> 02:54.282 [SPEAKER_02]: Carter Jensen,

02:55.182 --> 03:05.293 [SPEAKER_02]: had one of the most impressive rounds of BP of every skin at any level like he hit ten home runs on fifteen pitches

03:06.792 --> 03:10.234 [SPEAKER_02]: And the other five were all like stung liners.

03:10.314 --> 03:14.615 [SPEAKER_02]: There were like three or four line drives kind of spread around the field and his last round.

03:14.755 --> 03:18.097 [SPEAKER_02]: And they put one off the wall at one point that just missed it in the Levin poem run.

03:18.137 --> 03:26.740 [SPEAKER_02]: But like he was cranking it and it was legitimately loud power and backspin.

03:28.601 --> 03:29.721 [SPEAKER_02]: He looked really good in B.P.

03:29.801 --> 03:30.962 [SPEAKER_02]: that a point that I was like,

03:32.828 --> 03:34.389 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of in on Carter Jensen now.

03:34.529 --> 03:38.472 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I knew like the underlying dad has been really good for a bunch of years.

03:38.973 --> 03:48.059 [SPEAKER_02]: But to see in a person and just see like how easy it was for him to sort of like clover some homers in a big league ballpark and like kind of all fields too.

03:48.820 --> 03:49.721 [SPEAKER_02]: That was really impressive.

03:50.101 --> 03:52.343 [SPEAKER_02]: Raw power wise, Connor Griffin.

03:53.593 --> 03:58.017 [SPEAKER_02]: And Prasignio, Prasignio almost hit one out of the stadium.

03:58.957 --> 04:04.182 [SPEAKER_02]: Like over on the side of the chop house is like this iron sort of like rafters structure.

04:04.802 --> 04:07.184 [SPEAKER_02]: He hit it over that, like it bounced off the back of it.

04:07.444 --> 04:10.887 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just almost out of this, like another twenty feet of the stadium.

04:12.608 --> 04:14.070 [SPEAKER_02]: He hit some major shots.

04:15.321 --> 04:21.664 [SPEAKER_02]: Montez gets under everything so much that it's like these really high line hairs that you like kind of don't know if they're going to leave or not.

04:22.084 --> 04:24.145 [SPEAKER_02]: We're like bristane, you know, they're kind of like rockets.

04:25.765 --> 04:26.025 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

04:26.105 --> 04:27.486 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's always a fun take.

04:27.526 --> 04:29.667 [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably my favorite part of the future's game.

04:29.707 --> 04:36.730 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not televised, but I think just seeing all those guys taking BP on a big league field and just kind of counten homers.

04:36.750 --> 04:38.370 [SPEAKER_02]: The only guy that did not hit a homer.

04:38.410 --> 04:40.351 [SPEAKER_02]: Even in Rica, Bradfield did hit one out.

04:40.871 --> 04:42.852 [SPEAKER_02]: The only guy that didn't hit a homer is Brad Montgomery.

04:43.192 --> 04:44.013 [SPEAKER_02]: So make of that.

04:44.193 --> 04:44.313 [SPEAKER_02]: Well,

04:45.903 --> 04:46.303 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.

04:48.064 --> 04:51.084 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I thought overall it was a pretty solid game.

04:51.984 --> 04:57.326 [SPEAKER_02]: Got a nice homeer from Hoastway, DePaulah, which was a highlight of that one.

04:58.666 --> 05:03.907 [SPEAKER_02]: JJ Weatherholt made contact with a couple of nice balls that thought Jonah Tong looked really, really good in the mound.

05:05.068 --> 05:07.048 [SPEAKER_02]: Jerry Richie looked pretty good to start the game.

05:07.708 --> 05:09.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Massick ripped off some really nice change ups.

05:09.829 --> 05:11.929 [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't get a hundred miles per hour from anybody.

05:11.949 --> 05:14.090 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the closest thing when came was George Klassen.

05:16.204 --> 05:17.284 [SPEAKER_02]: But a good game, you know.

05:18.785 --> 05:29.230 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think for a lot of people, it's fun to see a lot of these guys on a well-produced television broadcast in a big league park.

05:30.490 --> 05:32.551 [SPEAKER_02]: And on top of, you get some stat cast out of.

05:33.131 --> 05:43.336 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, for all those that are diving a little bit on the data, you get a better feel for, at least the pictures in particular what they're doing, what their shapes, your like, what they're capable of.

05:44.690 --> 05:51.636 [SPEAKER_02]: hitters little harder, but you'll get some, you'll get some nice shots, I think, as I said, whether Hall-Ted, it'd be like a one-o-six.

05:51.656 --> 05:59.343 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a one-o-six EV on that double, and then open the bottom of the first.

06:00.224 --> 06:03.507 [SPEAKER_02]: And then later had a ball that was like maybe a hundred one hundred two.

06:03.527 --> 06:04.568 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a line out.

06:05.168 --> 06:07.030 [SPEAKER_02]: So, shoulda a little power there.

06:08.391 --> 06:09.713 [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting player for sure.

06:09.733 --> 06:17.882 [SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, we have our reception with all the future game, you know, participants at the prospect pad.

06:18.662 --> 06:20.044 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got a good showing there.

06:20.064 --> 06:22.647 [SPEAKER_02]: I think most of the players pretty much showed up.

06:24.872 --> 06:27.354 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I got the chat, have some interesting conversations.

06:27.514 --> 06:33.318 [SPEAKER_02]: I grab pitch grips and some explanations on cues from all the pictures in the future's game and stop by.

06:33.338 --> 06:37.942 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to have some articles with some grips and some breakdowns of arsenals, etc.

06:38.022 --> 06:44.327 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was a productive time and then the draft is the draft.

06:44.987 --> 06:45.307 [SPEAKER_02]: How about you?

06:45.387 --> 06:47.849 [SPEAKER_02]: Any other fantasy baseball element?

06:49.664 --> 06:51.245 [SPEAKER_02]: type stuff you want to talk about.

06:51.265 --> 06:58.351 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's been the down period here, but we haven't recorded in a couple of weeks, so I wasn't sure if there's anything that's top of mind.

06:58.371 --> 07:03.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, don't really, the most exciting part was the future's game.

07:04.675 --> 07:06.737 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, all those highlights you're talking about.

07:06.757 --> 07:10.940 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I liked Jonah Tong, snapped off a pretty nice curve.

07:10.960 --> 07:13.882 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think it was Harry for that was a nice.

07:15.865 --> 07:42.344 [SPEAKER_02]: I was curious about your savage doing facing one batter was that kind of by design or I think it was just more or less like every year there's a picture like this in the future's game and I think it's just sort of like you're going to get out there you're going to get the pitch but we got other guys we're going to pitch and all the braves guys like Hogan Harris is going to be like stuff like that so I think just in order to get through everybody they had to do that

07:43.438 --> 07:49.403 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, certainly would have been nice if he stayed in a little longer, but it is what it is.

07:49.664 --> 07:50.825 [SPEAKER_02]: Every year there was somebody like that.

07:50.845 --> 08:02.135 [SPEAKER_02]: I know a few years ago, like in LA, it was like Zuluweta came in and through like one batter and then was out after retired one guy and then was out after that.

08:02.723 --> 08:05.205 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was so many last two years, it was kind of the same thing.

08:05.265 --> 08:14.294 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's just maybe maybe they actually draw straws and there's like somebody who draws the short straw, it only gets to go one or two of that.

08:15.435 --> 08:15.555 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

08:15.615 --> 08:15.835 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

08:17.056 --> 08:17.377 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

08:17.817 --> 08:20.600 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you watch, mightily games, but it's good to see kind of

08:21.590 --> 08:46.485 [SPEAKER_00]: like you watch one of the games for a few players and then it's good to see them all kind of on the same stage and you can see kind of their like their sizes like per se no is like just a monster even besides some of the other monsters and like parker mesics of big boys stuff you can just kind of see relative sizes and not very well but a big guy he's probably only maybe five eleven but

08:48.333 --> 09:10.793 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, so it's good to see the wall kind of like in contact with each other, so that was nice and that led right into the draft which was Yeah, we headed over there Sunday evening It was an interesting draft because I don't think There was any clear cut one one pick

09:12.669 --> 09:14.330 [SPEAKER_02]: up to like a half hour before.

09:14.770 --> 09:18.331 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of when like the will it's information started to leak in a little bit.

09:18.411 --> 09:28.015 [SPEAKER_02]: And but there was there was some, there were some fireworks and some, you know, uncertainty up there at the top.

09:28.135 --> 09:33.777 [SPEAKER_02]: And we had heard a rumor that Bremner could go to that ends up happening.

09:33.877 --> 09:35.657 [SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of shifts the board down.

09:37.398 --> 09:39.479 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you end up with

09:40.841 --> 09:43.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Kate Anderson fallen to three.

09:44.644 --> 10:01.497 [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I think if you asked pretty much anybody, like, in the base of all world, what would the best possible landing spot for Kate Anderson be in the top tent?

10:01.677 --> 10:03.678 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was always Seattle, right?

10:05.380 --> 10:06.661 [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent pitch and development.

10:07.533 --> 10:10.896 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty excited about Anderson.

10:11.537 --> 10:18.403 [SPEAKER_02]: And what do you can do with their velocity camps and some of the other stuff?

10:19.704 --> 10:26.130 [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen pitchability guys go there before that had above average of Gilbert Kirby to a lesser extent.

10:27.231 --> 10:29.393 [SPEAKER_02]: And we've seen them make major transformations.

10:30.193 --> 10:49.500 [SPEAKER_02]: So they've done so well in this college pitching bucket of developing these guys, and this is a lefty with advanced pitchability, who can handle innings, who can get deep into games, who's pitched in the most competitive environment and amateur baseball consistently gotten out, had the ball in the biggest games.

10:51.311 --> 10:56.654 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, a guy like this, I think the biggest question is just, there was an elbow surgery years ago.

10:57.275 --> 10:58.976 [SPEAKER_02]: So, all right, is there maybe some risk?

10:59.236 --> 11:01.938 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we take on that risk with any picture that we draft, right?

11:02.598 --> 11:11.004 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm pretty excited about Kia Anderson, because I think the combination of just the player and then the dev and org fit are really, really good.

11:11.444 --> 11:15.487 [SPEAKER_02]: And some of these guys in this rotation are gonna get traded over the next couple of years.

11:15.967 --> 11:19.329 [SPEAKER_02]: And the track record on college starters has been excellent in the lab.

11:19.409 --> 11:20.410 [SPEAKER_02]: You drafts in terms of,

11:21.028 --> 11:24.680 [SPEAKER_02]: them sort of jettisoning up to the majors pretty quickly.

11:26.167 --> 11:27.468 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in on Anderson.

11:28.589 --> 11:31.911 [SPEAKER_02]: Willet's goes one, which I don't think was a total shock to us.

11:31.951 --> 11:34.252 [SPEAKER_02]: We had heard that as a potential option.

11:34.892 --> 11:38.995 [SPEAKER_02]: I do a stupid mock that I don't share publicly, but share it like any friend or even some of my friends.

11:39.055 --> 11:39.895 [SPEAKER_02]: I had Willet's one.

11:39.915 --> 11:41.796 [SPEAKER_02]: I had Anderson too.

11:41.836 --> 11:44.838 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think the angels would pass on Anderson, but they did.

11:46.619 --> 11:50.722 [SPEAKER_02]: Willet's switch header on base machine really good contact.

11:51.720 --> 11:56.244 [SPEAKER_02]: So that screams to me that like Robo Scout is gonna probably like Eli, well, it's quite a bit.

11:56.844 --> 11:58.385 [SPEAKER_02]: He's also extremely young.

11:58.726 --> 12:00.027 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

12:00.047 --> 12:02.389 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the youngest number one overall pick in history.

12:03.930 --> 12:10.635 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the age of juniors in high school.

12:10.936 --> 12:16.921 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his birthday, he doesn't turn eighteen years old until the ninth of December.

12:17.812 --> 12:19.013 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

12:19.174 --> 12:24.620 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to be younger than a lot of high school players in the twenty twenty six class.

12:24.640 --> 12:25.141 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

12:25.521 --> 12:26.783 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll keep that in perspective.

12:26.903 --> 12:29.025 [SPEAKER_02]: I think my issue is I don't think he's runner.

12:29.766 --> 12:32.329 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there was a ton of power projection here.

12:32.349 --> 12:33.190 [SPEAKER_02]: That.

12:34.411 --> 12:40.536 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like the high end is like a Jacob Wilson right is that like the hit tool super advanced and he switch.

12:41.316 --> 12:45.379 [SPEAKER_02]: He's six one one eighties so like you're not the only like a magical and switch hitter as well.

12:46.880 --> 12:49.583 [SPEAKER_02]: So as you sneak in that sense, I mean like.

12:50.525 --> 13:02.176 [SPEAKER_02]: It stinks because like the best switch hitting contact first player of the last generation no longer plays professional baseball because of some things that he did off the field that were disgusting.

13:03.958 --> 13:08.543 [SPEAKER_02]: But like that kind of profile right like it's a switch hitter with contact and you're like hey.

13:09.654 --> 13:19.203 [SPEAKER_02]: if he can get a little stronger and he can find forty five power and some decent angles, maybe there's fifteen or more homers here.

13:19.323 --> 13:21.325 [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably more like ten to twelve.

13:22.146 --> 13:28.832 [SPEAKER_02]: With some stolen bases, but probably not like thirty, it's probably more like fifteen to eighteen kind of a number.

13:29.433 --> 13:31.755 [SPEAKER_02]: But a really good batting average and like, you know,

13:33.327 --> 13:41.372 [SPEAKER_02]: strike out to walk ratio that's even or slightly tipping in the walk area or strike out.

13:41.552 --> 13:42.772 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a really advanced hit tool.

13:42.833 --> 13:43.693 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to get sevens.

13:44.433 --> 13:55.240 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're into that kind of player, by all means going on with, I guess what I'm trying to say though is like in a class where there's a lot of players who are very, very close together here in the top ten.

13:57.451 --> 14:01.853 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little bit more apprehensive to like take will.

14:01.893 --> 14:03.214 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really where he was drafted.

14:03.274 --> 14:04.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's reasonable or not.

14:06.316 --> 14:09.717 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you since the complex leads are kind of winding down?

14:12.323 --> 14:17.524 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think we'll see any high school like prep guys play?

14:17.584 --> 14:18.585 [SPEAKER_00]: Make their debut this year.

14:18.685 --> 14:24.926 [SPEAKER_00]: And if not, will we, how much information do you think we'll get from like, um, bridge league stuff?

14:25.026 --> 14:32.248 [SPEAKER_02]: Or I think it's more likely to be college hitters in full season ball.

14:33.849 --> 14:39.150 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a chance that will its signs and gets assigned.

14:40.223 --> 14:44.526 [SPEAKER_02]: to low-way Palm Beach because they're still playing games.

14:45.927 --> 14:50.170 [SPEAKER_02]: He's such an advanced hit tool that he's not going to get the bat knocked out of his hands.

14:50.751 --> 14:53.273 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not going to be like all that different from what is it Andrew Sawas.

14:53.293 --> 14:54.454 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to make sure I get my solace, right?

14:54.474 --> 14:58.717 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Andrew Sawas were like early on the model loved him because he was making contact, he was getting out bass.

14:58.757 --> 15:00.398 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you should do that.

15:00.558 --> 15:03.621 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a better player than Sawas is better here than Sawas.

15:03.641 --> 15:03.981 [SPEAKER_02]: So like

15:05.097 --> 15:08.798 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's all going to probably play that they could assign him to Palm Beach.

15:09.038 --> 15:12.979 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility that we do see him at Palm Beach.

15:12.999 --> 15:15.239 [SPEAKER_02]: Their complex facility is also right there.

15:16.660 --> 15:18.780 [SPEAKER_02]: So it sort of makes sense, right?

15:19.260 --> 15:23.161 [SPEAKER_02]: We're like a team like Miami or St.

15:23.201 --> 15:28.642 [SPEAKER_02]: Louis or some of these teams that have like a full season affiliate and Florida right next to their complex.

15:28.662 --> 15:31.463 [SPEAKER_02]: I think those guys are more likely to probably see some full season time.

15:32.583 --> 15:32.783 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

15:33.724 --> 15:34.764 [SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't shock if will.

15:34.784 --> 15:36.065 [SPEAKER_02]: It's never plays in the complex.

15:37.445 --> 15:41.787 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility that he just never never plays in the complex whatsoever.

15:42.487 --> 15:45.949 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, I think he's he's an interesting player.

15:45.969 --> 15:51.711 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that you can kind of, this is a skin the cap, but that's not very appropriate.

15:51.731 --> 15:52.932 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's skinning cats, right?

15:54.793 --> 15:55.993 [SPEAKER_02]: But we are an expression, isn't it?

15:56.473 --> 15:59.555 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think you can kind of slice this however you want, right?

15:59.635 --> 15:59.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Like

16:01.584 --> 16:03.025 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you are into the will.

16:03.065 --> 16:03.485 [SPEAKER_02]: It's type.

16:03.886 --> 16:07.709 [SPEAKER_02]: And you like the hit tool and you like the age and you're like, you know, he's six one.

16:07.749 --> 16:09.009 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's more power here.

16:09.710 --> 16:12.352 [SPEAKER_02]: Guys like you Jeff missed on Jacob Wilson in a big way.

16:12.372 --> 16:17.636 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so I don't, I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility to kind of view it that way.

16:18.737 --> 16:20.678 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk quickly on Tyler Bremner.

16:22.159 --> 16:27.163 [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting pitch traits like it's fastball playing is way better than I thought it was going to be.

16:27.183 --> 16:28.684 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know how juice those

16:29.894 --> 16:36.961 [SPEAKER_02]: Those trackmen devices are out in the West Coast, but it's not about fastball.

16:37.142 --> 16:39.764 [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably like a, it's at least a plus change up.

16:39.925 --> 16:40.826 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's a seventy.

16:41.066 --> 16:47.132 [SPEAKER_02]: We get seventy change ups in the amateur side that don't play like that when they come to the pro rank.

16:47.192 --> 16:50.095 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll, we'll be conservative and put a sixty on it.

16:51.167 --> 16:52.528 [SPEAKER_02]: We gotta see what he does with that slider.

16:52.568 --> 16:53.468 [SPEAKER_02]: He throws it pretty hard.

16:53.508 --> 16:54.548 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't move a whole lot.

16:55.409 --> 16:57.169 [SPEAKER_02]: More power, more movement, I'm gonna matter.

16:57.870 --> 16:59.590 [SPEAKER_02]: Are the angels gonna be the team to do that?

16:59.610 --> 17:01.231 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

17:01.791 --> 17:03.772 [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably gonna get up to the big leagues really quick.

17:03.872 --> 17:12.135 [SPEAKER_02]: So, if you value that, then I don't think Bremner is a bad pick.

17:12.495 --> 17:16.236 [SPEAKER_02]: I think what's gonna happen with Bremner is he's gonna drop

17:17.910 --> 17:21.031 [SPEAKER_02]: outside of the top ten in a lot of FYPD's doing.

17:22.071 --> 17:34.055 [SPEAKER_02]: And someone's going to get him at like thirteen and he's going to pitch his way to the big leagues and you're then going to have like a nice little trade big, especially if he's good in Rocket City because we know he's going to go to Rocket City.

17:34.135 --> 17:39.517 [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably not going to pitch this year, but he's either going to the big leagues or he's going to Rocket City to start next year.

17:39.597 --> 17:41.538 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're going to do the the Tri City thing.

17:41.578 --> 17:44.299 [SPEAKER_02]: He's too good of a prospect and they pay them way too much money.

17:45.359 --> 17:46.900 [SPEAKER_02]: More than I don't think he signed yet, but

17:48.397 --> 17:53.141 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, bremner to me, probably not a top ten F-I-P-D guy.

17:54.001 --> 17:56.663 [SPEAKER_02]: If he landed in Seattle, he probably is.

17:58.024 --> 18:00.986 [SPEAKER_02]: If he lands in Pittsburgh, he probably is.

18:01.787 --> 18:02.488 [SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna like this.

18:03.648 --> 18:12.155 [SPEAKER_02]: If he landed, and I don't think the BlueJays were looking out, but if he landed in Toronto, I'm kind of, and if he lands with Chicago, I'm kind of in.

18:12.235 --> 18:17.579 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's a, you good landing spot, because like, banister in Chicago has done some really good things to their pitch.

18:18.353 --> 18:23.096 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's gonna come down to fit with a lot of these guys, you know?

18:23.577 --> 18:27.960 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so we can keep talking through it, right?

18:28.000 --> 18:29.781 [SPEAKER_02]: We talked, we talked through some parameter here.

18:29.961 --> 18:31.202 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to Ethan Holiday.

18:31.843 --> 18:33.964 [SPEAKER_02]: But before we do that, we're gonna take quick break down.

18:34.285 --> 18:34.885 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you suggest to it?

18:35.626 --> 18:35.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

18:36.886 --> 18:37.647 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back.

18:39.648 --> 18:40.929 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we are back.

18:40.989 --> 18:42.530 [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking MLB draft.

18:42.550 --> 18:44.352 [SPEAKER_02]: We're probably just gonna walk through the top ten

18:45.792 --> 18:50.516 [SPEAKER_02]: have some commentary on some of the players have done a lot of digging over the last two weeks.

18:50.576 --> 19:02.365 [SPEAKER_02]: I spent a lot of time watching draft video and energy talking to people who are smarter than I am, who work in the game, getting their opinions, asking them, hey, remove defense from this as much as you can.

19:04.767 --> 19:07.750 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think is the best, like, all these prep middle infielders?

19:08.971 --> 19:11.313 [SPEAKER_02]: Short stop is a bit debatable term with some of these guys.

19:12.020 --> 19:19.365 [SPEAKER_02]: But I've got some different, I've got a lot of different feedback on that.

19:20.106 --> 19:24.149 [SPEAKER_02]: I've had some people who their last guy in this group is the first guy for other people.

19:25.150 --> 19:27.531 [SPEAKER_02]: So it is truly a pickup.

19:27.711 --> 19:29.713 [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a fun draft, but I've got to be fun.

19:29.733 --> 19:33.536 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Ethan Holiday, I think has something really going for.

19:33.876 --> 19:39.400 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is the combination of big power plus power, maybe plus plus raw.

19:40.609 --> 19:41.669 [SPEAKER_02]: going to be playing in Colorado.

19:42.270 --> 19:43.910 [SPEAKER_02]: Colorado heals a lot of eels.

19:43.930 --> 19:44.771 [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get on base.

19:45.451 --> 19:46.612 [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to hit for some power.

19:47.132 --> 19:49.913 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to be Jackson's hit tool.

19:50.233 --> 19:52.054 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a lot more power than Jackson.

19:52.174 --> 19:53.174 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to move as well.

19:54.315 --> 19:56.256 [SPEAKER_02]: There's more defensive risk here.

19:56.276 --> 20:01.018 [SPEAKER_02]: I think third base is optimistic pessimistic.

20:01.058 --> 20:01.938 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a first basement.

20:02.378 --> 20:02.639 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

20:02.879 --> 20:03.059 [SPEAKER_02]: So

20:04.358 --> 20:06.338 [SPEAKER_02]: He's more like Matt.

20:06.719 --> 20:07.659 [SPEAKER_02]: He's built like Matt.

20:07.719 --> 20:08.579 [SPEAKER_02]: He looks like Matt.

20:08.659 --> 20:09.519 [SPEAKER_02]: He plays like Matt.

20:09.779 --> 20:12.220 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think he's a good player.

20:12.360 --> 20:17.481 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think this, you know, if you have holiday above Willets, I think that's pretty reasonable.

20:17.921 --> 20:19.421 [SPEAKER_02]: And like we have that ranking.

20:20.102 --> 20:22.122 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of evaluers that have that ranking.

20:22.542 --> 20:27.143 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think based on fit like Colorado is not in the best, but they do stick with their guys.

20:27.883 --> 20:30.664 [SPEAKER_02]: And they get their guys that they believe in up to the big leagues quick.

20:32.753 --> 20:44.200 [SPEAKER_02]: So it might take a couple of years, but he's gonna hit in great environments with a lot of power and has access to more resources than probably just about any player in this track.

20:45.520 --> 20:48.622 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what your thoughts are on, on Ethan holiday.

20:48.642 --> 20:52.084 [SPEAKER_02]: It is a power bat, power and on base.

20:52.144 --> 20:53.945 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very different player from Jackson.

20:55.626 --> 21:01.730 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think if he wasn't in course, I would be much lower.

21:02.543 --> 21:04.144 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

21:04.285 --> 21:05.346 [SPEAKER_00]: It's everything you said.

21:05.426 --> 21:06.426 [SPEAKER_00]: It's course heals.

21:06.767 --> 21:15.534 [SPEAKER_00]: It's if his hit tools not great, you know, that'll bring like if he's a two hundred hitter in course, you know, it's like that turns into two sixty.

21:16.115 --> 21:17.336 [SPEAKER_00]: So like two thirty overall.

21:17.356 --> 21:18.917 [SPEAKER_00]: So like it really helps the hit tool.

21:20.179 --> 21:21.860 [SPEAKER_00]: Matt Hall and A bloodlines.

21:23.542 --> 21:29.206 [SPEAKER_00]: Just even the Colorado thing is going to they're going to the organization is going to, you know,

21:29.967 --> 21:57.061 [SPEAKER_00]: roll at the right carpet for him and all that so it's going to be it's the best light expo you can ask for so that that really kind of softens the the the flaws that risk I have yeah exactly so um yeah I like them I don't know where I take them it's kind of like a jack gaggling on thing for me where it's like I I get the the positives for sure but then it depends better swing decisions and it might be better angles to yeah it's like

21:58.532 --> 22:08.838 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna punch like he's probably gonna run like a, it may not be a thirty, but it's gonna be like high twenties, but he's gonna get out of base and he's gonna hit homers.

22:09.798 --> 22:14.201 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a lot of players like that that are successful.

22:14.301 --> 22:19.764 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you gotta either have power or speed or good enough combination of like power speed hit to be.

22:21.350 --> 22:29.652 [SPEAKER_02]: truly fantasy relevant year after year after year, you know, the kind of skills that don't necessarily slump where I think you get that with some of the head tool guys.

22:29.732 --> 22:32.293 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's interesting though.

22:32.313 --> 22:47.397 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think this is just once again hammering home and this is like, this is like, you start drinking a number of times I've been saying, this is a pick up a toss up, you know, pick your expression and take a shot every time I say it, but it's truly

22:48.188 --> 22:54.517 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, the more digging I do in this class, the more I come away confused as the house of bored should shake out.

22:54.898 --> 22:55.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Truly.

22:55.319 --> 22:59.665 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think there's so many different, like, this is a choose your own venture book.

22:59.685 --> 23:00.166 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if

23:01.317 --> 23:11.368 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if the younger crowd is familiar with those, but it was a library and like you'd pick a page and be like, all right, you picked this, you got to jump ahead to this page and like you could pick wrong and die.

23:11.488 --> 23:11.968 [SPEAKER_02]: It was great.

23:12.469 --> 23:13.650 [SPEAKER_02]: You're starting the book over, you know.

23:14.451 --> 23:19.476 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, it's jump on a number five, Liam Doyle, high energy lefty.

23:20.894 --> 23:37.363 [SPEAKER_02]: Arguably the best fastball in the class you've seen the data Dylan it's excellent excellent plane excellent velocity it's like ninety seven ninety eight from a lefty which is like a hundred miles an hour righty you just don't see that kind of lefty velocity funky slot

23:38.735 --> 23:41.335 [SPEAKER_02]: He threw the fastball like seventy five percent of the time this year.

23:41.395 --> 23:46.956 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he dominated in the SEC with a fastball tells you like the ilk of that pitch, the quality of that pitch.

23:47.577 --> 23:51.977 [SPEAKER_02]: There is some major question marks regarding like what the quality breaking balls are here.

23:52.297 --> 23:56.458 [SPEAKER_02]: He throws hard though and he's willing to take stuff on.

23:56.498 --> 23:57.958 [SPEAKER_02]: He's hard worker kind of a nut.

23:59.559 --> 24:01.279 [SPEAKER_02]: Adding a better breaking ball wouldn't shock me.

24:01.359 --> 24:04.599 [SPEAKER_02]: He spent each college season in a different college.

24:04.619 --> 24:07.660 [SPEAKER_02]: Went to Coast Carolina mid-major.

24:08.458 --> 24:11.961 [SPEAKER_02]: Transfers into the SEC with Ole Miss Ole Miss kind of a messy situation.

24:12.701 --> 24:16.424 [SPEAKER_02]: Transfers Tennessee, which is obviously was the defending champion when he went in.

24:16.884 --> 24:18.686 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the best programs in college baseball.

24:20.007 --> 24:20.627 [SPEAKER_02]: And he was erased.

24:20.667 --> 24:23.269 [SPEAKER_02]: He was every bit the ace they needed to be.

24:23.710 --> 24:25.191 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll say the splitter man.

24:25.791 --> 24:28.093 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some debate between scouts and analysts.

24:28.133 --> 24:29.574 [SPEAKER_02]: The analysts really like the splitter.

24:29.594 --> 24:30.895 [SPEAKER_02]: The numbers are pretty good against it.

24:31.335 --> 24:32.316 [SPEAKER_02]: You can throw it a ton.

24:32.476 --> 24:33.357 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an interesting pitch.

24:35.270 --> 24:39.971 [SPEAKER_02]: All the metrics in terms of it playing in terms of playing versus the fastball playing look really good.

24:42.231 --> 24:48.732 [SPEAKER_02]: So there might be two, like there's the plus plus pitch here and maybe in above average splitter.

24:49.513 --> 24:56.474 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he gets an average breaking ball, especially as a lefty, it might be game over.

24:56.634 --> 24:59.594 [SPEAKER_02]: This might be the best pitcher in the draft, it might be the best player in the draft.

24:59.714 --> 25:02.615 [SPEAKER_02]: But there is some risk in terms of what

25:03.583 --> 25:07.024 [SPEAKER_02]: the pitch mixes and where it goes from here.

25:07.044 --> 25:15.747 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't say the cardinals are a bad fit, but it's not the fit of some of these other orgs that we talked about.

25:15.827 --> 25:21.349 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think that things are progressing nicely under high-imble and it's gonna be his first full year next year.

25:22.369 --> 25:25.250 [SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna more likely to be more progressive bringing some things.

25:26.010 --> 25:28.471 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a guy that worked out at Cressy, he's worked out at different places.

25:29.691 --> 25:31.012 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna seek out information.

25:33.097 --> 25:35.739 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we'll get to where he needs to be.

25:36.039 --> 25:37.260 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's interesting.

25:37.280 --> 25:39.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's some relief for us here though, Dylan.

25:39.242 --> 25:40.363 [SPEAKER_02]: For sure, I'm on a percent.

25:41.964 --> 25:45.167 [SPEAKER_00]: So I know, okay, let me ask this hypothetical question.

25:45.207 --> 25:46.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Put you on the hot seat.

25:48.289 --> 25:54.414 [SPEAKER_00]: What if the Mariners took Doyle and the Cardinals took Kate Anderson?

25:56.125 --> 26:21.390 [SPEAKER_02]: How would that swap your I think I would be I would be a hundred percent in on Doyle I might even have him as like the number one player in the class Just because of the Mariners reputation and what they've done and I think it's close enough like the stuff metrics are probably going to like Doyle more Simply because of how much he uses the fastball and how well that fastball is going to great out

26:23.537 --> 26:27.782 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it would hurt Anderson as much as it maybe hurts Doyle a little bit that makes sense.

26:27.962 --> 26:30.845 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think Anderson still like top three in the class.

26:31.886 --> 26:37.753 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if Doyle is is that, you know, maybe just kind of swap how they're ranked a little bit.

26:38.794 --> 26:40.376 [SPEAKER_02]: Doyle's still going to be really high for me.

26:40.576 --> 26:40.956 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just.

26:41.812 --> 26:46.236 [SPEAKER_02]: The Seattle boost with Doyle would have put him way over the top.

26:47.257 --> 26:50.300 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, I think that's, that's kind of how I'm looking at it.

26:50.360 --> 26:58.488 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the college pitching is honestly like, we may look back and be like, oh, yeah, I guess there's the year to draft pictures of top like it kind of feels that way.

26:58.608 --> 27:00.650 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and kind of adding on to that.

27:00.670 --> 27:04.474 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you get any more Doyle questions or we can move on to Seth Hernandez at six.

27:06.250 --> 27:16.483 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I get more, so I was tracking sort of the college stats as we go and try to do major equivalencies and and Doyle and Katie Anderson were basically consistently in the top.

27:16.543 --> 27:17.584 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

27:18.265 --> 27:21.489 [SPEAKER_00]: It's no questions from me why they're at the top.

27:22.410 --> 27:24.532 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think both of these guys.

27:25.967 --> 27:30.331 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you can argue could have gone ahead of Hagan Smith last year.

27:30.471 --> 27:32.553 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Smith and College may be a little bit better.

27:33.794 --> 27:35.856 [SPEAKER_02]: Anderson's arsenal is more well-rounded.

27:37.978 --> 27:41.441 [SPEAKER_02]: And Doyle, like, kind of has similar traits to Hagan Smith.

27:41.681 --> 27:43.883 [SPEAKER_02]: And Smith just had the better slider.

27:43.903 --> 27:47.126 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a wicked slider, but that thing is backed up and proble.

27:47.326 --> 27:51.870 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, hindsight being in twenty twenty now, I'm like, these guys weren't that far off from Hagan Smith.

27:53.142 --> 27:55.843 [SPEAKER_02]: At the time, though, we considered Higginsmith a better prospect.

27:55.863 --> 27:57.943 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just backed up a little bit this year.

27:57.963 --> 28:03.785 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's physical or what, because a lot of their other pictures have been pretty good, though.

28:04.025 --> 28:08.606 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess Noah Shelts is up for debate there, so maybe I shouldn't get banished or too much credit.

28:08.686 --> 28:09.027 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

28:10.467 --> 28:20.650 [SPEAKER_02]: Heather Nandez, I think this is a really interesting one, because you're talking about a high school kid, right-hander, who sits high in nineties, who touch a triple digits,

28:21.608 --> 28:26.290 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, sits more like mid nineties like ninety seven ninety eight, but he can't ramp it up to a hundred.

28:28.091 --> 28:29.532 [SPEAKER_02]: The secondaries are really good.

28:29.552 --> 28:37.015 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think one of the things that gets underrated with him is it's really advanced pitch ability.

28:37.175 --> 28:44.258 [SPEAKER_02]: Like his change up is really good right now, which is going to neutralize left handed hitters, which is going to be a big part of the lineups.

28:46.119 --> 28:47.620 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's throwing a curve ball.

28:48.910 --> 28:50.291 [SPEAKER_02]: It gets a ton of spin.

28:51.191 --> 28:53.433 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a harder slider that'll show a little bit.

28:54.293 --> 28:56.174 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, there's four pitches here.

28:56.234 --> 28:57.295 [SPEAKER_02]: There's feel for spin.

28:57.335 --> 28:58.236 [SPEAKER_02]: There's velocity.

28:58.296 --> 29:00.117 [SPEAKER_02]: There's pitchability and strike throwing.

29:00.137 --> 29:05.240 [SPEAKER_02]: The prep pitcher, it's a prep right to you throw as hard.

29:05.380 --> 29:10.663 [SPEAKER_02]: So like you probably got a bacon and an injury on the road of the big leagues.

29:10.703 --> 29:13.345 [SPEAKER_02]: Like these guys, I mean, look at Andrew Painter, right?

29:14.005 --> 29:18.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Painter effectively was, you know, we look like he was going to be one year in the minors.

29:19.276 --> 29:21.016 [SPEAKER_02]: and then in the big leagues the next year.

29:21.797 --> 29:25.337 [SPEAKER_02]: Injury misses two seasons, right?

29:26.077 --> 29:27.038 [SPEAKER_02]: Twenty-three, twenty-four.

29:28.878 --> 29:30.858 [SPEAKER_02]: Back in twenty-five, still not up in the big leagues.

29:31.959 --> 29:33.479 [SPEAKER_02]: It could happen this year, probably will.

29:34.219 --> 29:42.241 [SPEAKER_02]: But you're looking for years minimum from draft to starting with high school teachers.

29:42.341 --> 29:45.041 [SPEAKER_02]: Even the best ones don't get up there that fast.

29:45.201 --> 29:47.222 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think you got to bake that in a little bit.

29:48.114 --> 30:02.427 [SPEAKER_02]: I also think that you can make a case that this might be the most talented prospect in the graph, which is really interesting because you're talking about a lot of pictures here at the top, you know, with Anderson and Doyle and Hernandez.

30:02.487 --> 30:08.893 [SPEAKER_02]: And Bramner, we kind of talked through, you know, I don't necessarily view him in, you know, in that same category.

30:09.153 --> 30:14.278 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's tough to take a prep picture that like really high in FY PDs.

30:15.415 --> 30:19.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Anderson, excuse me, Hernandez might kind of be the one to take high.

30:20.299 --> 30:22.681 [SPEAKER_02]: And these guys haven't had a bad track record.

30:22.742 --> 30:29.688 [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen a lot of good prep arms come up the last few years and be valuable prospects in one way shape or form.

30:31.789 --> 30:34.372 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's tough for me to take a high school pitcher.

30:35.642 --> 30:48.869 [SPEAKER_00]: in FYPD, especially if I have like a top five pick, it's like I just, it's hard for me to kind of give up that draft capital for all the reasons you said, having to wait a long time, high risk of injury probably.

30:50.390 --> 30:52.091 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's tough, but I totally understand it.

30:52.471 --> 30:56.834 [SPEAKER_00]: As a real life club, then yeah, I think I, you know, I can wait.

30:56.854 --> 31:01.416 [SPEAKER_02]: I think though in fantasy this year that,

31:02.517 --> 31:07.560 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of people chasing fools gold around some of these hitters.

31:08.941 --> 31:11.903 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know.

31:13.765 --> 31:15.726 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this might be the rare occurrence.

31:15.946 --> 31:16.967 [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of take this guy.

31:16.987 --> 31:18.768 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like taking Hunter Green, right?

31:19.489 --> 31:22.931 [SPEAKER_02]: You took Hunter Green out of high school and you're going to have to hold for a few years.

31:23.852 --> 31:30.196 [SPEAKER_02]: But the value is going to be there because he's going to be a top hundred guy, even on fantasy list, he's probably going to get on the back end.

31:31.194 --> 31:38.119 [SPEAKER_02]: Some people might have avoided the profile entirely because he's a hard-thowing high school right-hander.

31:39.320 --> 31:41.001 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's foolish.

31:41.522 --> 31:47.046 [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly think this is a talent that's worth chasing in a bad draft.

31:48.027 --> 31:50.308 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I love Avaracad.

31:50.869 --> 31:54.171 [SPEAKER_02]: I will take Avaracad over Seth Hernandez.

31:54.531 --> 31:57.434 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the number seven pick here, Marlins.

31:58.454 --> 32:00.416 [SPEAKER_02]: When we look, I wrote about a couple of weeks ago,

32:01.236 --> 32:18.124 [SPEAKER_02]: When we look at the best combination of angles, empower, and swing decisions and contact in the class and performance against a variety of pitch types, I think our kids the best hitter on the draft.

32:18.505 --> 32:25.048 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were hitting coordinators that felt the same way, you know, that got called into some of those meetings and start digging in.

32:26.720 --> 32:31.844 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a short stop, maybe he ends up as a third basement if he's a third basement is gonna be a plus third basement.

32:34.046 --> 32:38.870 [SPEAKER_02]: He's still kind of predictable, he's twitchy, he's a good athlete, he's gonna run a little bit.

32:41.191 --> 32:52.640 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's the only guy in this college hitting class that had a chance to go in top and head last year, because I do think he's better than Christian Morris, and I think he's better than Brady Montgomery.

32:53.581 --> 32:55.403 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know,

32:57.180 --> 32:58.322 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, why do you go seven?

32:58.342 --> 33:00.805 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why did Connor Griffin go nine last year.

33:00.985 --> 33:09.857 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, it's just kind of how things shake out where people have players, what they like, what the numbers are like.

33:11.425 --> 33:15.928 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a really interesting player, you know, and I think he's going to hit, I think he's going to hit for power.

33:16.629 --> 33:22.413 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm less concerned about the marlins because I think their development has really advanced under this new regime.

33:23.134 --> 33:30.979 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm less apprehensive to take a marlins hitter because I know the type of work they're doing off the field is progressive.

33:31.500 --> 33:32.841 [SPEAKER_02]: They're heavily data driven.

33:32.861 --> 33:32.921 [SPEAKER_02]: And

33:37.910 --> 33:39.092 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nobody to block them.

33:39.532 --> 33:41.995 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, who's an AVR cat's way?

33:42.676 --> 33:44.739 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think it's not unreasonable.

33:44.759 --> 33:50.807 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I said this to you before the top of the show where I said it to one of my other colleagues when we're talking about the FYPD stuff.

33:51.948 --> 33:56.972 [SPEAKER_02]: He could be their Marlin's best hitter in twenty twenty seven, and that's like not going to shock me.

33:57.112 --> 33:58.333 [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost an expectation.

33:59.153 --> 34:09.261 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think when we've seen the way that college hitters have performed, this is a guy that's on the same class as the guys who went last year's draft.

34:09.281 --> 34:11.743 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of guys are up in the big leagues.

34:12.809 --> 34:17.311 [SPEAKER_02]: most of the guys that are playing are pretty productive, even Charlie Condon started to look a little better.

34:17.331 --> 34:20.232 [SPEAKER_02]: It's dealt with some injuries, give them a molligan.

34:21.432 --> 34:24.894 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and this guy's more athletic, you know?

34:24.914 --> 34:27.655 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm kind of, you know, on our kid.

34:27.695 --> 34:30.076 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a really interesting FYPD pick.

34:31.216 --> 34:32.917 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's crazy if you had a one.

34:33.477 --> 34:34.938 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, two, three, four.

34:34.958 --> 34:36.918 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's probably somewhere in that range.

34:37.399 --> 34:40.480 [SPEAKER_02]: I know you've probably looked at some of our kids down in

34:41.714 --> 34:43.074 [SPEAKER_02]: you were around when I wrote that article.

34:43.174 --> 34:52.076 [SPEAKER_02]: So no, what your thoughts are on an old avarquette baseball come use what Mark Gerely calls it.

34:52.236 --> 34:54.617 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's probably the best college hitter.

34:57.477 --> 34:58.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that it's short stop.

35:00.218 --> 35:02.678 [SPEAKER_00]: I have looked at the numbers.

35:03.018 --> 35:04.738 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, yeah, there's a lot of power in there.

35:04.778 --> 35:05.239 [SPEAKER_00]: Good angle.

35:05.259 --> 35:06.059 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good performance.

35:08.521 --> 35:09.842 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like it.

35:10.242 --> 35:11.903 [SPEAKER_00]: He's the best college shooter.

35:11.923 --> 35:16.425 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want, if you want safety, if you want proximity, then he's at the top of your board.

35:16.885 --> 35:19.367 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's got more upside than a lot of these guys.

35:19.467 --> 35:25.390 [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly think he probably has more upside than holiday or willets of the hitters that was spoken about.

35:25.690 --> 35:33.974 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's probably more upside there, just in terms of the combination of all the skills from a fantasy perspective.

35:37.641 --> 35:42.303 [SPEAKER_02]: there's maybe some things that make Eli Willets a better player overall and he's so young.

35:42.623 --> 35:46.545 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just whether he develops impact or not is a question.

35:46.765 --> 35:59.611 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think if you're drafting him in fantasy, it's a risk that you're have to be willing to take that maybe the power doesn't come and then like what kind of a of a stat line does it?

36:00.011 --> 36:02.712 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, is it then just contact an on-basability

36:04.248 --> 36:07.530 [SPEAKER_02]: sometimes those like chase by drought hasn't been great in the big leagues.

36:07.750 --> 36:10.631 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been a better defender, frankly, which is shocking.

36:11.311 --> 36:16.174 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna respect it into play short, let alone in above average short in the big leagues.

36:17.895 --> 36:19.035 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's been up below average hitter.

36:19.535 --> 36:28.059 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I, and he had as good as skills as you're gonna see now Will it's as bigger Will it's as twitchier Will it should be a better player?

36:29.820 --> 36:32.942 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not, I think he's gonna be in above average hitter, but

36:33.726 --> 36:37.629 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like, you're, answer that our kid is a better hitter than he is.

36:39.891 --> 36:41.672 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, he wasn't as developed as quickly.

36:41.712 --> 36:43.774 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, you can go one way or the other on that one.

36:45.575 --> 36:47.397 [SPEAKER_02]: Next one, we're talking, Jay is dealing.

36:48.137 --> 36:50.899 [SPEAKER_02]: Some people, he's the best hitter in the class.

36:52.681 --> 36:59.006 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be Joe Joe Parker or Joseph Parker if you want to, you want to be polite with it.

36:59.746 --> 37:02.689 [SPEAKER_02]: A little bit older, in terms of,

37:04.179 --> 37:12.106 [SPEAKER_02]: the age at the draft for Jojo, he is like a year and a half older than Eli Willis.

37:13.127 --> 37:18.492 [SPEAKER_02]: But really advanced hit tool, good enough body, six to two hundred pounds.

37:18.733 --> 37:20.214 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's pretty maxed out.

37:21.095 --> 37:26.800 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much more power there is to come, but it's probably above average power.

37:26.840 --> 37:27.981 [SPEAKER_02]: The EVs are pretty good.

37:30.180 --> 37:31.281 [SPEAKER_02]: You could be a really advanced hitter.

37:31.321 --> 37:36.504 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it kind of falls into like the cold Emerson, Aiden Miller kind of bucket.

37:36.664 --> 37:46.690 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he's, it is Emerson or Miller, but kind of a similar player, you know, so if you're, you're into those kind of guys, then I think, I think Joe Joe makes a lot of sense.

37:46.730 --> 37:50.092 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's probably gonna rank among the top.

37:50.292 --> 37:51.333 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll have him above Willets.

37:51.633 --> 37:52.253 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say that.

37:52.974 --> 37:54.475 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'd have him above holiday.

37:54.495 --> 37:57.457 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a, that's a pickam, just because holiday is,

37:58.776 --> 38:00.437 [SPEAKER_02]: more power, right?

38:00.758 --> 38:02.799 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the on-base skills and all that sort of stuff.

38:03.820 --> 38:04.361 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's bigger.

38:05.622 --> 38:10.226 [SPEAKER_02]: So, but, you know, if you had Parker over holiday, I don't think that's crazy.

38:10.246 --> 38:12.968 [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of in that same sort of tier.

38:13.188 --> 38:13.528 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

38:14.129 --> 38:16.731 [SPEAKER_02]: It was one of my favorite picks in the first round.

38:16.771 --> 38:19.273 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I thought it was good value.

38:19.293 --> 38:22.116 [SPEAKER_02]: We had heard him rumored as highest three to the Mariners.

38:24.156 --> 38:29.681 [SPEAKER_02]: As I said, you know, I think there's some people that could prefer Parker to holiday.

38:30.641 --> 38:36.246 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he did go ahead of Carlson and Gavin Fein and, you know, these other guys.

38:36.326 --> 38:39.829 [SPEAKER_02]: So no one's your take is on old Jojo Parker.

38:40.729 --> 38:41.110 [SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

38:42.911 --> 38:46.174 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of wanted the Jayce to take the Jamie Arnold.

38:46.214 --> 38:50.477 [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see what Arnold would be in their pitching development.

38:50.978 --> 38:51.178 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

38:53.470 --> 38:58.413 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was a bit not not a disappointment, but I was like, I could have seen what Arnold would have been in the chase.

38:58.693 --> 39:01.214 [SPEAKER_02]: Dylan, I could have told you they were always going here.

39:01.734 --> 39:04.316 [SPEAKER_02]: He was in the map, but he they were always going here.

39:06.097 --> 39:06.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

39:08.118 --> 39:08.918 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, no, I like it.

39:08.938 --> 39:13.640 [SPEAKER_00]: I like the hit power, you know, fifty five, fifty five or sixty fifty five or whatever.

39:13.720 --> 39:15.241 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's a good combination.

39:15.301 --> 39:15.401 [SPEAKER_00]: So

39:17.559 --> 39:22.281 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is not a common anyway, but it's like kind of like a cam Smith good hit, good power.

39:23.782 --> 39:24.182 [SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

39:24.323 --> 39:28.305 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm interested to see what he's going to do in the in the organization.

39:29.965 --> 39:31.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a hundred percent.

39:31.726 --> 39:32.467 [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of exciting.

39:32.527 --> 39:33.988 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're rolling to the top ten here.

39:35.528 --> 39:37.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Steel Hall, you will get as.

39:37.790 --> 39:39.010 [SPEAKER_02]: Like.

39:44.140 --> 39:52.026 [SPEAKER_02]: conflicting opinions on steel hall at about as extreme and verite as you can get.

39:52.146 --> 39:55.389 [SPEAKER_02]: Some people think this is the best player for fantasy in the class.

39:57.451 --> 40:04.637 [SPEAKER_02]: The comp in terms of the athlete, if it all clicks straight turn, this guy is going to stick a short stop, phenomenal runner, there's power.

40:05.537 --> 40:06.918 [SPEAKER_02]: He is not the biggest guy.

40:06.938 --> 40:09.280 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the best tester.

40:09.420 --> 40:10.081 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the

40:13.938 --> 40:16.099 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the highest upside player on this draft.

40:16.159 --> 40:25.684 [SPEAKER_02]: If anybody is going to go full on Connor Griffin, it's ironic because he's the nine pick, but anybody goes full on Connor Griffin next year.

40:25.904 --> 40:27.005 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be steel hall.

40:27.165 --> 40:28.806 [SPEAKER_02]: There's questions about the hit tool.

40:29.746 --> 40:33.148 [SPEAKER_02]: And there are reasonable questions, frankly.

40:34.349 --> 40:36.530 [SPEAKER_02]: Contact is in great swing decisions aren't awesome.

40:36.970 --> 40:39.452 [SPEAKER_02]: There's power and there's angles.

40:40.740 --> 40:43.562 [SPEAKER_02]: And there is some game performance based on that.

40:43.903 --> 40:53.670 [SPEAKER_02]: So you got to eight months though, we've seen since the pandemic, a lot of these prep players get shut down or play very sparingly.

40:54.070 --> 40:55.851 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they have a lot of development time.

40:55.991 --> 41:06.219 [SPEAKER_02]: And especially with the way that the complex league has been moved up, you're now talking bridge league, you're talking October, November, maybe December hitting camps.

41:08.097 --> 41:17.250 [SPEAKER_02]: You're talking January potentially being back for hitting camps and then playing all the way through March before you even see backfield games in late March.

41:17.951 --> 41:20.235 [SPEAKER_02]: Second half of March all of a sudden you start playing some games.

41:21.418 --> 41:23.599 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys have like eight months.

41:25.640 --> 41:25.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

41:25.960 --> 41:26.701 [SPEAKER_02]: They get drafted.

41:26.741 --> 41:33.705 [SPEAKER_02]: They got all the August, September, October, November, December, January, February.

41:33.725 --> 41:37.267 [SPEAKER_02]: And like they're not playing games until late March.

41:38.127 --> 41:48.973 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're talking, we're talking eight months where they have time behind the scenes without it showing up in their baseball card, without it showing up in their MLB profile page.

41:50.055 --> 41:52.256 [SPEAKER_02]: They can go out there and they can struggle and they can figure things out.

41:53.497 --> 42:04.622 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's why a lot of these guys that have hit tool or swing concern questions who are also good athletes, we've seen be really good players almost out the shoot, you know.

42:06.663 --> 42:12.225 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, certainly a guy like Hall falls into that category.

42:12.625 --> 42:17.548 [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, you went nine, I mean, before Billy Carson, he went before Gavin Fine,

42:20.568 --> 42:27.709 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's another super young guy, you know, just turns eighteen and a week.

42:28.450 --> 42:29.950 [SPEAKER_02]: So he was a reclass as well.

42:30.170 --> 42:37.051 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously was one of what had been one of the older players in next year's class, but still seventeen at the time of the draft, super young.

42:37.311 --> 42:39.252 [SPEAKER_02]: Not Eli Willet's young, but super young.

42:41.212 --> 42:43.253 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's pretty interesting.

42:44.193 --> 42:44.513 [SPEAKER_02]: I am

42:46.191 --> 42:47.772 [SPEAKER_02]: I am very high on them.

42:48.212 --> 42:49.893 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very in on steel hall.

42:50.033 --> 43:05.943 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it's worth the risk to take the shot because guys with skills like this year after year, consistently are the guys that I regret not being higher on.

43:06.083 --> 43:08.264 [SPEAKER_02]: And in a class like this, we're none of these guys are great.

43:09.773 --> 43:11.675 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, this might be the best prep player.

43:11.695 --> 43:15.938 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to do it, it's got to have some stones to do it, because you will take on some risk.

43:16.078 --> 43:22.144 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I hear a risk and it's the Spider-Man meme, just me and a risk point.

43:24.025 --> 43:25.006 [SPEAKER_02]: I love some good risk.

43:25.106 --> 43:29.870 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, I think it's, you know, FYPD Man, you should be trying to hit some horrors.

43:30.131 --> 43:31.472 [SPEAKER_02]: I think especially up top.

43:33.401 --> 43:46.606 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you can take your, you can take your, your line drives swings up at the top with, you know, some of the Kate Anderson or Doyle or something like that, but I think when you start getting the upside, I think steal Hall is the most exciting name to talk about.

43:47.106 --> 43:48.027 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll wrap your stuff.

43:48.407 --> 43:50.608 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to, we're going to have Carlos Colossal on next week.

43:50.748 --> 43:53.129 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have FYP rankings out next week.

43:53.829 --> 43:55.390 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to save some of the goodies for that.

43:56.695 --> 43:58.576 [SPEAKER_02]: So my range is going to conflict with Carlos stuff.

43:58.616 --> 43:59.817 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have some debates on that.

44:00.277 --> 44:06.461 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, at least just talk through and say debates or talking through reasonable minds can differ type of stuff.

44:07.041 --> 44:07.702 [SPEAKER_02]: So that'll be fun.

44:08.642 --> 44:09.383 [SPEAKER_02]: But the last name.

44:10.455 --> 44:12.016 [SPEAKER_02]: Billy Carlson.

44:13.416 --> 44:19.960 [SPEAKER_02]: I've gotten Mason Wincomps on him, and I think a lot of it is because the short stop defense is advanced.

44:20.060 --> 44:21.060 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an excellent arm.

44:21.120 --> 44:30.925 [SPEAKER_02]: He was a two-way guy who pitched in high school, played with South Hernandez on that team, where he evil was in that team as well, who's something won't discuss today, but his FYPD relevant for sure.

44:33.666 --> 44:36.327 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some questions on how much he's going to hit in the swing.

44:36.347 --> 44:39.029 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he could get there.

44:39.835 --> 44:41.836 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think he's going to need some work like win.

44:41.876 --> 44:47.498 [SPEAKER_02]: It might take a couple years for the swing changes and all that work to take.

44:47.939 --> 44:50.520 [SPEAKER_02]: I know he's got a well-known swing coach.

44:50.580 --> 44:51.900 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe he's working with as well.

44:52.040 --> 44:54.161 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we'll see what direction it goes.

44:54.221 --> 44:55.122 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a pretty good athlete.

44:55.142 --> 44:56.282 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a really good shortstop.

44:57.483 --> 45:00.604 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's high end offensive upside here, though.

45:01.244 --> 45:04.806 [SPEAKER_02]: As I said, like Mason win is a solid player.

45:06.347 --> 45:07.867 [SPEAKER_02]: A pretty good fantasy player, right?

45:10.696 --> 45:14.078 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like the numbers are, it's kind of a lead off profile.

45:14.118 --> 45:22.062 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, you're hoping that there's more in the tank here with win in terms of home runs and all that sort of stuff.

45:22.182 --> 45:30.427 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, he's a league average just hitter that doesn't strike out a ton, doesn't kill you in batting average, doesn't really help you in stolen bases or power, right?

45:30.907 --> 45:32.868 [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of his value is derived from his glove.

45:33.929 --> 45:36.250 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's kind of a similar player.

45:37.231 --> 45:38.531 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, in terms of where it's going,

45:40.669 --> 45:43.730 [SPEAKER_02]: But not all together, like a player you want to totally write off.

45:43.770 --> 45:47.132 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's probably in a fifteen team league.

45:47.152 --> 45:49.293 [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably back into the first round.

45:49.473 --> 45:53.755 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the last couple of picks is where I think Carlson probably comes off the board.

45:53.775 --> 46:00.939 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think there's maybe some better names and maybe a few better names behind him that we're not going to talk today, but we'll talk on those next week.

46:01.639 --> 46:03.040 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, Dylan, teaser.

46:03.060 --> 46:03.420 [SPEAKER_02]: I like it.

46:03.993 --> 46:12.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we ran through forty five minutes, most of it on the draft and the top and kind of talk it through some of those players in different talents.

46:13.161 --> 46:15.222 [SPEAKER_02]: If familiar, we're going to ramp it up next week.

46:15.262 --> 46:26.452 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have the FYPD rankings and we'll have Carlos Coloso on this podcast will drop probably a date earlier though, just because, you know, scheduling and traveling, you know, that sort of stuff.

46:26.492 --> 46:27.493 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a heck a couple of weeks.

46:27.553 --> 46:32.257 [SPEAKER_02]: But for Jeff, for Dylan, thanks for tuning in to the baseball America fantasy podcast.