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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, welcome back to another episode of the Baseball America Fantasy podcast is your host Jeff Ponce alongside me as always is my co-host from the Great White North former NFBC main event co-champion Dylan White Dylan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are we are joined by another one of our colleagues from Baseball America today Jacob Rodner

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of our college writers here at the baseball America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is also an avid fantasy player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody knows what he's talking about when it comes to the MLB draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're diving more into the FYPD this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dylan, stealing your shine for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to welcome Jacob into the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob brought her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's it going, man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I'm honored.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dylan, I'm sorry to steal your thunder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am a long time listener of the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm honored to be a part of it and excited to talk about some new pros.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Draft went down, Dylan, anything you want to talk before we jump into FYPD, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you were looking to glow further on your first place, Blue Jays, their current run of success at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: floor to your sir.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all I want to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's game three of the three games set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yankees are booting the ball kicking it around, which I love to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Jays are winning eight four and the eight right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be at four games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, meaning me and the Jays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope before the end of this podcast, they close it out and it's in your favor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that way, you know, this opening doesn't come back to Baitcha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially with the Yankees fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to be careful, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to feed the animals, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's jump into it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the draft went down a little bit over a week ago now almost two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of these guys have signed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still a few out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty certain that everybody in the first round is probably going to sign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Slater to Brown is at the one that we got our eyes on at the moment that could potentially go to campus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ranks fairly highly in my FYPD and is technically a first rounder though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went in the competitive balance round at thirty seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of an unusual first round, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't see that in other sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's start it right from the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got myself at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've shared this Dylan this list with Dylan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've shared it with Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think before we even get into the rank, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably good to preface all this by saying, this is a very muddled top of the class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we've heard this at Nazium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost cliche at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no clear cut number one player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would venture to say that you could say there's maybe no like elite players in this draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean that there aren't very good players who like, there's a bunch of them they're gonna rank as top one hundred prospects and there's a chance for them to kind of exceed their draft pedigree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many of these guys and I'll post this to Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many of these players that went in the top ten this year would have gone in the top ten last year before the show we kind of reviewed a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a loaded top ten last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it really is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that there are a couple Kate Anderson for me certainly would have been a top ten pick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've our cat I think would have been maybe closer to the fringe last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe in, but probably still on that back line.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ethan holiday probably gets in and then like

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[SPEAKER_03]: It opens up pretty significantly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seth Hernandez, I think probably would have had a chance last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Eli Williams, but the answer is really a couple.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And of Luan's, I'm certain, maybe three Kate Anderson are ket and Doyle are the ones that'd be most confident in being top ten picks last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that kind of answers the question, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and there were other guys outside of the top ten that maybe should have been top ten picks last year too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think like obviously there's a name like Sever King right around there that a lot of these guys probably would have gone ahead of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, that's just one pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, yeah, I think I tend to agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he kind of named like our top four in terms of how I rank this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have Kate Anderson as my number one in the class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is a reasonable case for Liam Doyle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's probably reasonable case for Ethan Holiday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a reasonable case for I've our kit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need just consider the overall package in terms of the skills that he has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I had one hitting coordinator that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a lot of those guys get roped in, watching video, big draft decisions, etc.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Team that didn't take our kit, but that viewed our kit as the best overall hitter in a draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I think if you look at the data, the biggest question with him is like, he could swing a little bit more on his own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like terrible aggression, but like the heart swing I think was like maybe just a little under seventy percent if I recall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But gets on base, hits the ball hard, makes good contact in the zone, really good angles as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he doesn't stick a short stop, he's playing, he's playing with a really good short stop defensively and probably is one of the better defensive third baseman in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a pretty high opinion on our kiddos well and I think that there might even be a little more projection there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, as he continues to, he's never going to be like a huge hulking guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of a tall string being kind of a build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's athletic and twitchy moves well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there could be a little more strength that gets onto that body as he matures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really like him and then Liam Doyle who I think is probably Jacob's number one in the class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My one case for Anderson on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The team fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was already a case that Anderson was the most ready made player for the big leagues in the draft this year was obviously phenomenal down the stretch for those who really just throughout the season and you know, was their ace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As pitching in big games, we know they can get deep into starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to develop Arsenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He throws strikes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the one thing the Mariners have done is they've taken these advanced strike throwers, pitch ability guys with above average stuff from college, Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, Bryce Miller, some of these others, Brian Wu who didn't like Miller didn't necessarily have the pedigree of, of Kirby or Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they bring those guys in and they boost up the stuff without sacrificing any of that strike throwing or ability to kind of zone pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If anything, they add a lot of bridge pitches, etc.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on or clean up grips and make pitches better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Anderson could be a monster like within a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's unusual to take a college picture number one and an FYPD, but I just think he offers the most safety with upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what your thoughts are Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're a big, we have Doyle fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like Doyle quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think the fit is as good as going to one of the best pitching dev houses in the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I tend to agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to argue with the fit plus the player.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that's where your point is the strongest for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like Liam Doyle a lot just because we're talking about a lefty who's going to ascend quickly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's not a lot that we don't know about Liam Doyle at this point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the best or tied for the best with gauge wood fastball in this class for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The difference with him is that it comes from the left side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We saw it work extraordinarily well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: in the toughest conference in college baseball, which lately has a track record of ascending its players to the major league level very rapidly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is the fit is good?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and I don't think anybody's fit would have been better than being a pitcher with the Mariners, but for somebody who I think is very talented has a pitch that you really can't teach, and then maybe some low hanging fruit stuff that even

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[SPEAKER_03]: A non-mariners team is going to be able to clean up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a hard time looking past Liam Doyle, but I also think that the conversation centers very closely around the guys who you said in Kate Anderson is one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you're right on Doyle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk a little bit on him and we'll dive in a little bit to our kick because I think it's good to spend some time up here at the top and go into reasoning and maybe some other perspectives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Toils fastballs elite, as you said, I think it is the best fastball on the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you talk about release characteristics, obviously left-handed and its lower release height, really good vertical approach angle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's velocity on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: any spots at frankly, you know, it's it's not scatter shot command with that pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of the reasons that he was so successful in the hardest conference in college baseball, throwing his fastball, seventy plus percent of the time was because he commands it and it has all those traits just such an outlier pitch was a really great foundation for any starter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As you mentioned, regardless of any organization,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're the legitimate questions coming to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The splitter is a pretty good pitch, but it's a chase pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on its own miss kind of pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the cutter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been some development this year with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still has the slider.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he flashes a curve ball from time to time as well, but doesn't throw it very often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you, and I think it's the, for me, just based on his story, recent history, the answer to this question is probably overwhelming, yes, for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think there is a above average, not an average, but an above average breaking ball that he's going to be able to develop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to miss that's in zone consistently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think that's the biggest question mark with Doyle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously as a lefty, a little bit less of a question, but still a question.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's fair.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a ton of confidence that he'll get to something that's like

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[SPEAKER_03]: consistently above average, I think his slider has a chance to be a decent pitch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned the cutter shape.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they can blend together a little bit, but he was able to use that pitch as somewhat of a slider if you want to call it that this season and it looked good at times when he's commanding it well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Could that be something maybe I'm more confident that he's going to be able to develop enough from a secondary standpoint that it's going to allow the fastball to not be a seventy percent of the time pitch for him at the next level and it will be enough from a secondary standpoint that he will be able to continue to be this guy who plays largely behind this unique fastball shape and does enough of everything else to kind of keep that momentum going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think, you know, it's not like he doesn't have any feel for spin at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we see some guys like that that are like fastball dominant, you know, pronation dominant guys that just can't supinate at all and they have like, nineteen hundred RPM.

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[SPEAKER_00]: sliders like he's not one of those guys like there is some spin traits in there that I think with the right organization and it might even be work that's done outside the organization in season or excuse me in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, where they kind of figure out that pitch and he's an intense competitive dude like I think at worst you're you're looking at like an all-star closer like I don't think it's like high leverage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't even put that label on it because I think that would be easy for him probably now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if like he ends up in the bullpen he's gonna be like a leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's going to be one of the best really like relievers and baseball kind of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a sixty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's still a really valuable player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe isn't what you want to hear from a fantasy perspective, but what you really don't want to hear from fantasy perspective is guys not making the big leagues are having much of a career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that sometimes happens at FYPD with snappy fools.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I don't know, Dylan, do you have anything you wanted to add on any of these top two pictures here in Doyle and Anderson?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all season I was kind of tracking the college performance and doing like a Robo scout version of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Doyle and Anderson were the top guys basically all season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got the stuff data, like the metrics to calculate stuff like it was supported by the underlying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have no arguments with either of those two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Seattle factor we kind of talked about it last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The park factors are huge, like let alone like their pitching development and how they seem to turn out these guys, but just playing in Seattle, the park factors is like thirty percent run prevention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So half of his games will be there obviously and that's a huge factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like the Ethan Oliday course factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like those two, pick your poison, which guy do you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sophie's choice, whatever your, your binary choice metaphor is, and you'll do fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, I actually had a of our cat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have them split.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our cat is the meat in the left-handed college picture sandwich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, what's your take in our cat?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of wax poetic already on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's one of

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the few kind of short type of things in this class among the headers, because I don't even think there's short things with a lot of these high school guys who are talented, of course.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and with our cat, I think like you said already and there's no need for me to like deeply reiterate it here, but it's another guy where we kind of know what he is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the biggest questions with our cat are on the defensive side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Offensively speaking, he makes loud contact.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a big, you know, long swinger.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's going to be able to hit for power and he realizes that in game frequently he did it at Oregon State.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The thing that you mentioned that also kind of concerns me is he needs to be a little bit more aggressive at times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's coachable as we talked about off the air.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You and I several times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think that this is a guy who maybe has an outside chance of playing shortstop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's athletic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good third baseman probably at worst.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought it was a good pick by the Marlins in a draft that I will give a shout out and say I thought was pretty good too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to present agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he also is in a really good situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Miami probably is going to kill his projections a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think the positive here is there's not a whole lot in his way, whether he goes to shortstop or third base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no one really stopping him from, you know, rocketing up to the major leagues and getting a lot of a lot of playing time, which it's not going to be like angels quick, but if he's playing in Miami right now, a year from today, I'd say it's like a ten percent shock factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'd be that shocked at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might even be less than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be zero percent Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a guy that could move pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's like I said, it's not like the Miami has, you know, some standout short stops and third baseman that are keeping their best prospect up from getting up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jacob actually writes our, our marlins list going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got inside into the marlins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was even going to say, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: just even more broadly speaking, that organization is so unbelievably light on hitters in general, that I think that it provides him a path, like forget who are the short stops and who are the third basements, like this is a guy who I'm reasonably confident is gonna hit quickly, and that will in and of itself allow him to ascend in that organization, that a breakneck pace, probably not angels, like you said, but it also might not be that far off, like we really are talking about the perfect match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: for somebody who is arguably the safest offensive player in this entire draft that was light in that category.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he's good in the ways that you want someone to be good for fancy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where there's actualized power and already good angles, which shows barrel control, which I think is kind of the hidden element of the hit tool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not just making contact and swinging at the right pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also like having that adjustability in your hands and the barrel to actually hit things at good angles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't always have to be like

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[SPEAKER_00]: eighteen to thirty degrees right it could be just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to thirty, like you're just in that range, it's pretty tight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And our cat has that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like you said the biggest question mark is being a little more aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's really fixable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's really fixable once you get up to the higher levels and you start to have your hundred two hundred three hundred plate appearances and you start to see a variety of different pitches and pitch types and how guys attack you like that's when those adjustments get made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's doing all the right things in terms of

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[SPEAKER_00]: a swing perspective swing at the right pitches and what he does swing the attacks from the right angles, which I think is really positive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is there's enough speed that he could run a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be like a twenty twenty guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's going to be more home runs and steals, but double digit steals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think every season isn't craziest, especially early on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with all the other stuff that he provides, I think that's kind of a valuable player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the defenses

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's not a short stop long term, but it's good enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to play a position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's athletic enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's all good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moving on to the next tier, kind of from forward to nine here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where we start to have, I'll say the first group of high school players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a lot for me in terms of how I rank this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a weaker draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So weaker draft for college hitters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of good college lefties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: college righties like I think you can kind of get some value picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you have to draft a lot of those college right handers early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think going after the high school parentheses here, short stops because a lot of these guys will probably not play shortstop for very long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it all is professionals, this is where it gets really, really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big market tease.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to quick break when we get back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about some of the high school short stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and we are back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking to twenty twenty five draft FY PD first year player drafts for those that are unaware.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's their dynasty league when they make all the drafts available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be after the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be the following December January February.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had him as late as March, depending upon the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had him as early as July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: depending on the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it all depends or trying to get the information out as quick as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the earliest, I think we've done an FYPD.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's go into some of these high school store stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob is well versed in these players despite them not ever stepping on an SEC or an ACC or a big Westfield big ten doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob knows his ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk through some of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a big fan of Ethan Holiday who is my first high school player ranked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's reasonable if you are picking in the top four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to take them one, two or three, I got no arguments, no qualms with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four, Ethan Holiday lands in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Father is obviously a famous all-time rocky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a different player though than Jackson is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a hit tool and speed kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not a middle and field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are probably more like a third baseman could even move over to first base eventually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all about the power and the on base ability with say average hit tool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some whiff in there for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're looking for a thirty home or bat here, Jacob, or you're not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You certainly are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if I could just like remove my amateur reporter hat for a second and be fan of fantasy baseball for a second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually really like Ethan Hallway as a top three pick in an FYPD.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe that's a little bit of aggressive, but at the same time, like Jeff said a couple minutes ago, it's not always the most comfy decision to go with the starting pitcher, a college pitcher with your first

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[SPEAKER_03]: first or second overall pick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that Ethan Holiday has a lot of traits that Mary well from a fantasy perspective.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we talked about the fit with somebody like Kate Anderson and Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that a lot of those same things apply for Ethan Holiday in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about somebody who has plus power.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good hitter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he going to be a short stop?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Jeff said, maybe probably not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do think that he can ascend the ladder quickly in that organization, which is also

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[SPEAKER_03]: maybe on the lighter side and kind of lends itself to fast tracks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you put this guy with his power, you know, in that situation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the ballpark really favors him and makes him very intriguing, FYPD pick just if you're gonna project it out over what could happen here over the next couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Am I crazy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think the only thing that maybe in disagreement with

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[SPEAKER_00]: is they don't fast track guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Amador was kind of out of nowhere last year and I think some of it was because he was a Latin guy who gets signed at a certain age and they're on the forty man probably a year or two early like they should probably fix that rule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because a lot of those guys end up having to be out of the forty man before they're ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of that, they kind of take their time with players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wouldn't shock me if he's got at least two full years in the miners if not three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think- But is that worth waiting for?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that worth waiting for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think my thing is with how why I don't have them above the two really good college pictures and then our kit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he doesn't have those supporting skills?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not gonna be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a chance it's not a batting average drain, but it could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a better chance it's a drain than it is a boost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he's gonna be better in OPP formats, but I do think he's more of like ultimately like a three true outcome corner in field type.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is fine, but it's like there's a lot of pressure on the bad, especially if he doesn't end up a third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of pressure on the bad to perform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have him for, and I like to draft within this tier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have Ethan Holiday on certain teams, so I'm certainly not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to play devil's advocate in terms of like what the negatives might be as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't as much of a slam dunk as I had anticipated he would be a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that's probably true for everybody across the board that was doing any kind of draft rankings this year that there was a little shine that was off off the rose with with holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to have a bunch of believers, the name value course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people are going to take them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think he's going to slide past four, maybe in terms of actual value, he's going to give you, then maybe this is probably the right spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, course, for gives a lot of sins in the babbip department, like Bretton Doyle, Hunter Goodman, they all had seasons where they hit like two, seven, two, eighty so far and

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're right, he probably won't be about an average sink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it forgives a lot of sins, name value, course, people are going to like them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think one of the problems they give up high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't trade players either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I can absolutely see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of it depends on your format too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're playing a thirty team league, I'm taking Anderson and Doyle all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because pitching is so hard and you don't have the depth of like available starters that you have in the twelve or a fifteen team league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's depending upon the league set up if they're like a league like one of mine where I can kind of move back and forth like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Prospect starters until they hit like a hundred innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a few leagues like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I can expand my roster and like I have guys who are stashed in my minors that I can call up for a start and I may be swap out like another minor league and reliever or guy that's like you know has minors eligibility that's a major league reliever and I'm just like swap in those guys back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think in like leagues like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deeper leagues, they probably have more value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking like a twelve team league that's a standard scoring or category head to head, not points head to head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're once again the college pitchers would go wanting to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think holiday makes a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a shout like a twelve to fifteen team, road o league, going holiday one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have an issue with it because I think you have to shoot for like clearly have to shoot for upside there because you have the ability to drop anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and add probably a decent prospect off the wire because you, there's maybe under two hundred prospect roster, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those gauge jumps and all those kind of guys, even some of the late first rounders were probably available late name for one weeks like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think like a lot of this always depends on your league context, you know, and that's why we talk through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we want to move on to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the big shocking jaw dropping ranking in the top ten for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have justification and I have, I have good reasoning for why that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have steel hall at five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, you could probably talk me into putting steel hall at four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is a reclass, just like Eli Wiltson and everyone pick as who you probably have noticed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't spoken about yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will get to him before the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as young as Willets, but still like would have been part of the twenty twenty six high school class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the best athletic testers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a huge guy, but his power output and projection is really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a plus plus runner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The comps I've gotten from scouts in the industry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A valuators that get paid by teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes roles are different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that steel hall is trade Turner?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really exciting player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the one guy that we've talked about so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I may talk about today that has like first round fantasy upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of those first round fantasy upside guys don't necessarily go one through five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Went ninth overall, you know, if he does end up playing for the reds and ends up in that ballpark and in that factors into your projections.

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[SPEAKER_00]: might be a better place to play than course, especially if you have some power questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the angles are really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The EVs were actually pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The question with with Hall is there still some growth that needs to happen in terms of the skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alabama prep not crazy competition is facing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy, you know, with we talked about this last week, Dylan, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy with the amount of time that teams have now post draft, now that the complex leagues are ending in a couple of weeks a week and change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that they have sort of closed door bridge league stuff that's almost like backfield play, it's kind of very unorganized, it's not

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[SPEAKER_00]: They roll innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a development environment, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Offseason hitting camps, maybe they're gone home for a month, and they're back October, November, December, whenever they have their offseason hitting camps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe the minor league shut down no longer exists any longer either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So these guys can now be at the complex as all throughout the offseason if they want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then these guys are back in hitting camps in January or early February, especially the new drafties and the young guys, they're getting back into camp a little bit earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The teams have like five or six touch points on these guys before they're ever coming into and playing actual official games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and even beyond that, you have pretty much this period all the way to like mid to the end of March when they start to play minor league backfield games before they're even playing like games that anyone's really going to see or pay any attention to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of stuff you can work on and I think like Connor Griffin, excellent athlete, right in line with what's still always a bigger frame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But another guy, you know, Mississippi and and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they reworked a swing in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's turned into going to be the number of prospecting baseball probably by Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Roman Anthony is about to graduate and he's right behind him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not going to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if anyone else has opinions on Hall, you will get some more negative opinions on Hall from other people besides me obviously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything Jacob dealing their point if you're trying to figure out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't watched a lot of steel haul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man elite name though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, yes, you eat name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he is interesting and you have actually been banging the drum on the steel hall train basically the entire year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I kind of just default to you as the steel hall expert.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The competition he does play is light.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the only thing for me that I think, like, and maybe this is going to broaden up the conversation here too much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: as somebody who tries to make considerations when I'm making draft picks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not the expert that you guys are in fantasy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I always wonder, am I forfitting value to a degree with how fast some guys are going to get up by taking somebody who might take longer to develop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that maybe that's not necessarily to say that that's going to be the case with Seohal specifically.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I guess for somebody who is younger,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Some one undersized hasn't really played a lot of great competition.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a profile that might take longer to be productive for my fantasy team and is that a bad thing?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess is the, you know, very unsophisticated way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's not a like for like with with Griffin, but I think a lot of people probably took Christian more last year over Connor Griffin or Bryce Rainer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, both guys who tested pretty well and had upside, but no, you know, one of them obviously didn't face a whole lot of high level competition certainly not Rainer who played at one of the top high schools in the country playing some of the top high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: competition in the country, but yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it's I think in a draft like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's risky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of people that will probably have steel all ranked twenty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm totally fine with that being the case, because I'll get them at twelve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think more often than not, the college hitters have been busts in the top ten over the last ten years or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only a handful of guys who have ever been returned value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the high school guys buy in large, tend to return pretty good value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's bending the gommery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's the kind of thing where you can't hit it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the type of gains that typically can get made just with swing coaches and that sort of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in the dev environments a lot more now, post pandemic and the things that we've seen with teams when they have time to actually develop these guys behind the scenes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They go a little further.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, you know, you want up, if you want upside, he's quite young, like he's just a little older than Will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you said, he's like a seventy rudder, good athlete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the high upside, like you said, round one upside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in a shallow league, I think you want a shoot for upside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like people who took the Walker Jenkins Max Clarke, Bryce Rainer, kind of Griffin's like there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're regretting any of those picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could be one of those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it doesn't pan out, if he can't hit anything, it's an easy drop in a shallow league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you shoot for upside in a shallow league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In a deep relief, maybe you want proximity like I'm the type of guy that would take Christian more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think I've been that guy too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just tend to regret it a lot more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But with tools like RoboScal, you can find, you know, quickly replenish after if it doesn't come through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I kind of like proximity, but I like this big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't really know the high school guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I much a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I defer to you guys, but, you know, everything you guys are saying, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's one of the more divisive players in the draft, frankly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think depending upon who you talk to, even people I trust, I've gotten he can't hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I've gotten tree Turner, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it depends what you look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the context for this ranking for me is he has the best chance to hit for a decent average, twenty home runs and steel like forty bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he has the best chance to be a fantasy first rounder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where I think so often we go after a lot of these hitters, college and high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just college guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that maybe have a little bit less upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then ultimately, it's like the Nick York conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick York would have a great pick for a year and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he hit out of the draft, everyone had him in top thirty lists, you know, for fantasy, real life, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the bottom fell out and there was nothing else to balance the profile for him to try to water with and figure things out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think like that's worth what a system and Twitch comes into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other part of it is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: stealing basis is a huge boost having speed is a huge boost taking extra basis of boost your slugging percentage sometimes going to boost your batting average on base percentage and feed stuff out you score more runs right like all that sort of stuff does I think ultimately factor into why I have haul here because he can run and I think that there is power projection

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[SPEAKER_00]: even though he's undersized like the outputs that I've seen in athletic testing, kind of back that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's typically what those tests do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They show who's rotationally explosive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to the next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have two commentators in a two high school hitters in a row that I think are in the conversation for the best combination of hit tool and power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At six is Jojo Parker at seven is Gavin fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Texas Rangers took Parker's with the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we know which side Dylan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leans on this debate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the hit tools just a little bit pure with Parker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it is with fine fine might have more power projection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The conversations that I had around the draft and around this FYPD following the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Model teams were all over fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those that really value it in their drafting process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the red socks were certainly one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course the Rangers were another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a guy that certain teams probably had in the top ten that others maybe didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were a little bit more scalp based in terms of where they make their day one picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's kind of straightforward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where your thoughts?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I was just going to say that we can go right back to the point you just made about having a decent run tool and the value of that from a fantasy perspective and the edge goes to Jojo.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If that's what we're going to measure out there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's a pretty decent athlete, toolsy all around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't think that there's one

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[SPEAKER_03]: below average tool necessarily for Jojo Parker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It all kind of projects out pretty well, whereas not that there are concerns with fiend, but like just overall less athletic, not as good a fielder.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is slower and just doesn't run necessarily as cleanly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He maybe has a better arm, and that's like one category where he has Jojo very clearly beat, but for me actually, Jojo kind of takes the cake from a

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not huge tools.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Joe Joe Joe's probably second baseman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got once again, I don't think he's probably a short stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think people have to realize there's dirty short stop jobs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the best athletes in Venezuela and the Dominican Republic tend to play baseball, which isn't necessarily happening in the United States.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have better short stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's it's so hard for a lot of these guys to stick at shortstop even if they're good at shortstop throughout the miners, but yeah, I think that's the biggest question with JoJo is like you probably move to second base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the power is only average.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mississippi High School competition, he's actually about the same age as, as Connor Griffin was at the time of the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's nineteen, he's one of the older guys in the first round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are kind of the knocks there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned, is it mean or fine?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I had, well, people say fine to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We started pronounced mean.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we can go with fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's the top seven there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting a little bit into the high school guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seth Hernandez at eight might be the most talented player on the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not just big, it's not just big velocity from a high school right hander, which is scary, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a pitch mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's breaking balls or some debate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really good change up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's pitchability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pitchability and power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm totally not always in on drafts in high school guys in this draft at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like he is as much upside as anybody else in the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I can understand why people might pass on it at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is probably the closest high school on at least in the top ten that we've had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a probably hunter grain in terms of what he can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's going to be hunter grain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But be a pretty good starter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think team context here matters as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The pirates have been good with pitching development.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't do a whole lot else well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do develop pitchers pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's awfully intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're talking about triple digit velocity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've talked to some people who would put the fastball in the seven category, which I think is a little rich for me, but it is something that I've heard multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The same has been said for his change up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has a good slider, a good curveball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got good feel for all four of those pitches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The control is average at worst in my opinion right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I mean, he is an advanced player who draws comparisons to the people who, you know, have very rarely fallen into that category.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Hunter Green.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that like Jackson Joe is in the same, you know, air as what

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seth Hernandez has a chance to be Bubba Chandler who is like a you know the blueprint right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a bad joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm mad at Joe because Joe got hurt and wasn't striking people out for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you and I are not as speaking terms right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I tend to agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think the fastball shape is probably going to have to go to more of a sinker than a foreseamer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The numbers that I've seen he hasn't really been writing it, maybe there's something trunk tilt wise or rotational wise that they can fix that can maybe get him to boost that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's already got the velocity and enough spin that I think this all will kind of come together and turn into something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I said, I think the pirates have been pretty good just in terms of

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're pitching development for a few years with a variety of types of arms and arsenals and handedness, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he could be an interesting one, but I can understand why you might pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, going to go in and have a conversation about Eli Willett's over forty minutes into this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and enough going on, like, number one overall, I understand it from a real life perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really good all around player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, if defense and all that sort of stuff mattered in fantasy, he might be ranked higher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the track record with switch hitters that don't have a lot of power output who aren't like, twenty five to thirty stolen base guys isn't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tend to be off of this profile a little bit and he's kind of the end of this high school to your high school shortstop tier with Seth Hernandez, factored in as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your take on Will?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I don't think it was a shock to us that he went one one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see people being higher on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just tend to be very much on the low side in terms of the power or speed projection of this guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, first of all, definitely wasn't a surprise to see him go first overall.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was, it was a part of the conversation for some time before it actually happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I liked the pick and have said this on other baseball America podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I liked the pick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that it was going to get a lot of negative attention, but probably not for a great reason.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about an athletic guy with tools from a fantasy perspective.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can very much understand the hesitancy because I think that there's a world in which it takes quite some time if it ever really happens for a lot of this to come together in a way that's going to be productive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that he's further away than some of the other guys who we've talked about in this same

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[SPEAKER_03]: group.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think like Ethan Holiday is a little bit more of a ready made player at this point than Eli Willett's is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think even guys like Steel Hall, maybe Jojo Parker are also competitive as far as their readiness and proximity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that would make me think twice about drafting Eli Willett's.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it would depend on the league that I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think it's kind of a, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: two worlds here, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: In real life, I thought it was an interesting pick and in fantasy, I'd be a little bit more hesitant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of where I fall in the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not that he's a bad player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's kind of the quintessential sort of cliche in this space when we're talking prospects and draft that he's a better real-life player than a fantasy player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not a knock on what he could be or there might still be more upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's still getting drafted and probably every FYPD because he's a one one pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it's it's not it's not a slam dunk type of type of one one pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't I don't think that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still a very interesting player doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have any thoughts on the Eli will?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a discussion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really, I think, you know, as a model kind of focused guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact is the youngest is, like being seventeen instead of eighteen is like ten percent boost to your peak generally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives them kind of a bit of more runway, a bit more of a cushion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, it's kind of like the prevailing dialogue here is that it's a safe pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe it's not the sexiest pick, but it's like kind of got the safest runway and cushioned floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't mind it at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be going higher than nine and a lot of F like PDs, just name value, one one, all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but if this is, if you're going like, what the person may actually give you in like a three year window five year window, then, you know, this is probably more of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the proper spot to put up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think there's a lot of question marks with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I'm trying to help our readers navigate the draft a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stay away from this, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last question I'll throw out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: going to throw it over to Jacob and see what his thoughts are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How fast do you think, Tyson witherspoon could potentially move?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Peyton Toli has been in AA for quite some time already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made a great transformation and velocity, obviously, being a full-time pitcher for the first year of his career certainly had some help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Witherspoon is much more polished.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The stuff is already actualized.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's plus stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got pitch shapes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got four different pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a breaking ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really good mover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's a guy that could move really quick that he probably was starting high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Greenville, but there's a chance he could start in AA Portland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of that advanced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there's maybe a lot more upside coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just

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[SPEAKER_00]: him learning how to navigate professional lineups.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is really the biggest question mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how quickly do you think he could move Jacob?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's a lot of polish on this and that to me is going to be the thing that is the rocket fuel here that gets him up reasonably quickly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you said, he does carry velocity really well deep into games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We saw multiple instances this year where he was over a hundred pitches in the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and still touching ninety eight ninety nine as fastball with good life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: His slider, I think, is equally good as his fastball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he does have an off speed pitch beyond that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There are some concerns based on conversations that I had that he

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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of tanks a little bit from a stuff standpoint like it's the fastball in the slider that really clearly stand out and then there's a massive gap between whatever you want to put next whether that's the curve ball or the change up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, you know, the control is good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's room for him to improve his command.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's super athletic like you just said and just the overall maturity and competitiveness and like the makeup factors that, you know, I think absolutely come into play for arms and how fast they can rise up and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: get to contributing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that he checks those boxes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, from every conversation that I've had with area scouts and directors and other, you know, figures throughout baseball, there was a lot of very high praise for Kison Widderspoon and a lot of it had to do with the makeup and the polish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And even if there was some work to do with the second areas that he was somebody who really impressed people in the pre-draft process and throughout his draft year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like the cutter actually, which I know we started the through more later in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good pitch, like good cut shape, like has some horizontal and a little ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: E-nine, ninety, eighty eight, like in that range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a bad pitch, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was zoning it a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is seventy-one percent strike out right on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's something here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the RedSucks picture development has been showing some signs that there might be something there as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had a bunch of guys that took fixed up forwards over the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So credit to them as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're done talking a top ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of shared that with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went all the way to a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The list is on the site.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go and check that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before I let Jacob go and we wrap this sucker up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, throw the floor over to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a player that we didn't talk about today that you are very excited about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could be within the first round could be somebody sixty fixed on the board.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Dan's the question is specifically as possible that I'm very excited about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I jumped down to number thirty three on your board as you've shared with me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Cam lighter is like the big ticket who people are going to sleep on in your FYPDs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't pitch at all in his junior year due to a shoulder injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was some hope that maybe he would make an appearance over the summer before the draft.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That didn't happen either.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was only a couple of private situations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he ended up with the Dodgers, which, you know, there are two ways to look at this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One, it's a team that is going to be able to really appreciate the stuff and maybe maximize it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: on the other hand, for somebody who has an extensive injury history, maybe not the best organization right now to be a part of.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm super intrigued by him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought and feel free to disagree with me that if he had a healthy junior season and performed even decently, he would have been a sure fire top twenty pick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because the stuff just from like we haven't seen it in a long time, but just his ability to throw the baseball is outstanding when he's healthy enough to do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think there were a lot of guys in this staff that in this draft that have the combination of stuff that Cam later had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So really complete picture if he's healthy and he's in an organization that I think is going to take advantage of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that would be the guy that I would stash from the college ranks as you get deeper into your drafts and see that he's still on the board.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can do what I did and you can draft him and feel good about yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I almost shut them up even higher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have them, thirty three, and that's kind of just guarding the risk of the injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he may, you know, not be fully ready next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The upside is there, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible that, you know, like he's behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who I think of the top four college varieties, which are where they're spoon, bramner, gauge wood,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Riley quick from the twins who I like quick and I think that was pretty interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on top of it, the twins haven't been bad with the college-bitching development.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I have them kind of in that top five of like the college-ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like them quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bunch of names they're going to write about, but I'm going to throw it one a little bit further down the board here in James Quinn Irons mid-major King out of George Mason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big physical athlete with really good athletic testing data and really good underlying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: data like for swing decisions and bats up all sales.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The plate skills are there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Angles aren't bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really exciting player that I think is going to be free in a lot of drafts and really more of a deeper league name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe one to throw in your watch list for like your last pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in a shallow relief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It depends maybe more like three hundred prospects for a prospects roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's kind of the Joseph Sullivan of this year to throw a little comp on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want to say Jacob?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say for the fantasy fans who are listening to this and are going to go check out this list.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The eighty five let's say to end eighty five to a hundred range is just full of guys who I think are super intriguing like that pocket right there would be my hey it's getting late.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I have a couple picks left.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would look very strongly at this group of about fifteen players, like just a rattle off a couple.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JV Middleton stands out to me as somebody who I think maybe got underappreciated throughout the draft process.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Malachi with her spoon for as much conversation as there's been about his brother.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's lost stuff is outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tanner Franklin's got one of the best fastballs in this draft.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people put a seven on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cody Bouker is somebody who I've kind of got attached to at the end of the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a good change up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a real chance to be a starter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Slider showed a lot of life late in the seasons.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Got a good fastball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the other one was number eighty eight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chase Shores.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was talking about with the with the boss man, JJ Cooper and we he and I both think that that somebody who could rise exceptionally quickly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just given the fact that he is now in the Angel's organization and there's a hundred three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree on all those and I'd even throw Kate over Mueller drafts for the police.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really interesting stuff undersized left hander a lot of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably relievers, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, still interesting nonetheless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they're on the back end of this list because I wanted to make sure that I included them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, thank you for joining us today, Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope our listeners got a lot of perspective on these draft players and kind of, you know, you have understanding of fantasy scoring and all that good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it was really, really helpful for Dylan for Jeff for Jacob for baseball America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been the fantasy podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for tuning in.