I just feel like we need to just start

talking because I would feel like we don't

really need to introduce it because I feel

like that's so informal for us, for me

to be like, Hey, y welcome to the class.

Tell everyone about yourself.

Yeah.

It does feel weird for me to be like,

Hey, I'm so and so, 'cause I'm, Yvette.

And that's more than enough.

Like we're not gonna introduce

ourselves and then we're just doing it.

I just wanna be more

casual on these podcasts.

I feel like because of where I came

from with doing like, the podcast

before, I don't know if people listening

know, like, I used to work for like a

mommy brand and so I did a podcast and

so it was very formal 'cause it was

for like a brand that I worked for.

And so I'm so used to like doing that

now and I'm like, I just wanna hang out

with people when they come on, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

Could have been recording

the whole time.

I know we talked about so many things.

We'll see if they come up again.

I'm sure they will, but I was just like,

oh, it's getting late and we're chatting.

We should probably just start.

Yeah.

Thanks for coming back on.

Thanks for having me again.

I'm excited.

that was on, I don't even know.

What month are we?

It's July now.

Yeah.

This doesn't come out until

August or September, but,

yeah, it was last fall I think.

Definitely.

Right.

Last fall.

No, this is Jan.

Nevermind.

This has only been a year in the

making.

Not even.

yeah, I think I started

this podcast in January.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

You got me so confused.

My, it's my brain.

I know my husband and I always say my

husband, don't even talk to you like that.

My husband Zach and I, I

don't know who that is.

I know you're like, no idea what that is.

Zach and I are always

like, time is so weird.

'cause like, we'll look at

pictures of my daughter.

I just, her privacy stuff.

and she was a full on baby last year.

Like now she's like a kid.

Mm-hmm.

I know you sent Well Matt, my husband sent

the picture of her and I was like, what?

Who is that?

She's

like a kid.

She's a kid.

I know.

She's like full on thoughts and stuff.

It's so weird how they

just grow up so fast.

I love that she's into Spider-Man though.

'cause definitely went through her

Spider-Man phase and they were so excited

when we went to go see the exhibit.

Yeah.

So they loved it.

Good stuff.

I love that.

It feels like just yesterday you were

pregnant at my wedding with Bria.

Yeah.

It was cute.

We were at the exhibit and she's

like, mom, I was taking a picture.

She's like, mom, I, can't do it.

And she's like, trying to figure it out.

She's like, holier

with those fingers.

Yeah, with her other

hand.

It's like, whew.

Like, you got it girl.

You got it.

We'll have to teach the baby.

Yeah.

I'm like weird.

Like, it doesn't even like

matter if people know her name.

I'm just like, I think what I'm afraid

of, and this is me being vulnerable,

I never want people to say negative

comment about her in any way.

You know what I'm saying?

Mm-hmm.

I don't know, I just feel very

like, protective about it.

'cause I've seen people like post about

like, oh, these are my kids or something.

And someone will be like,

that's a weird name.

Or that's, oh, why would you let

your kid wear that or do that?

And I'm like.

I know I'm sensitive and if

anyone had say anything about

my child, they'd be like, wow.

Like, mm-hmm.

So props to like all the

moms out there that just

I remember like, when Paris Hilton had her

baby and people were being so mean about

her son, and I was like, that is awful.

Mm-hmm.

And I feel like it happens all the time.

Yeah.

Oh, I think it's terrible.

Yeah.

And I think one of the things too that you

keep seeing is now with like, I wonder if

in your profession too, it's like, because

there's so much more awareness of like.

special needs or autism

or, you different things.

I feel like people are so quick

to like diagnose other people.

I've seen it online.

someone will post their child and

they're like, oh, have you got them

checked for this, blah, blah, blah.

And it's like, don't say that

out someone else's child.

Like, don't label 'em.

Yeah, don't label.

Like obviously if you see like

a spot on their back and you're

like, that might be melanoma.

Yeah.

Let's like, maybe have them look in.

I've heard of that happening

where people get checked then.

I don't know.

I guess that's why I'm

the way I am about stuff.

I don't even know what

we're talking about.

we're just talking to just start talking.

I was telling Yvette before we started

that I was recording with, this girl

Katie, that was on my podcast and we were

talking, she's like, just start recording.

Mm-hmm.

And I still felt so weird doing

it 'cause I was like, I felt like

I still need to introduce her.

And she's like, let's

just see what happens.

And I was like.

Yeah, so we were talking about this

and like, I feel like outta sorts,

like the planner in me is like,

oh my gosh,

but

do I have to do this?

I have to do that.

Where do we go next?

Yeah.

It's so weird.

I don't know,

it's good to be like authentic

in it and just go for it.

Yeah.

That's true.

Mm-hmm.

Which I could just like turn

off the part of my brain

that's like, it doesn't matter.

Just be you girl.

I dunno.

Okay, last time you were here,

we did something similar.

We were kind of doing like crazy stories.

Mm-hmm.

And we're gonna react to one

of course, like we always do.

But I was thinking too, I'm like, I

feel like we could tell so much more.

I don't even know what

I'm saying right now.

Did you plan for this?

No, I have my talking

points and that's it.

Okay.

I just went on a walk and so I

feel like my allergies are so bad.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't have that problem.

I'm sorry.

I can't relate, but my husband

has that problem and he's,

I'm always like, are you okay?

He's like, oh, my allergies are so bad.

I'm like, I don't, get it.

I'm fine.

I know.

I usually don't have 'em.

This is the first year.

Oh,

really?

Yeah.

So they could still be coming.

You're young.

Just wait.

I used to have 'em when I was

like in middle school for like

two years and then never again.

Really?

So fingers crossed it stays that way.

It'll stay that way.

You'll get lucky.

no, I know what I was gonna say, but I was

trying to like protect myself, you know?

That's when I was like, when you start

talking with someone, you're like,

okay, wait, should I say that or not?

Mm. With Zach.

He was on a Patreon episode and we

were talking about groomsmen stories.

Mm. after we like finished recording

recently, I was like, Zach, you

have crazy groomsmen stories,

that like you didn't talk about.

And then I was like, thinking

about when you were on, I'm

like, you are my maid of honor.

I was like, I wonder if you

have any like crazy stories or

about you?

No, I can just, Krista,

she comes off really sweet.

But she was the biggest bridezilla ever.

No, actually, literally

quite the opposite.

You were like, oh yeah, I don't care if

you wear white at my bachelorette party.

I'm like, what?

No, they cannot wear white.

Like, that's for you.

I feel like at that point I was

just like, everybody's here.

why does it matter what people wear?

Yeah.

Also it's so awkward, maybe this is me

too, but you like think of that moment

of like, oh, cool, it's my bachelorette.

It's like my party.

But then when you're the one in white

and everyone's wearing black, you're

like, for the attention please.

Like, yeah.

It's fun to kind of like

notice oh, you're the bride.

But then it's like, also

please look at my friends.

they're awesome.

Yeah.

For my bachelorette party, we went

to, a drag show they were calling me

out because I was a bride, but they

didn't quite know who was a bride

and they're all like, it's this one.

And I was wearing white and I was like,

okay, not your typical, full on, you know?

Yeah.

So fun.

Yeah.

Part of me wishes.

I think the second day of my

bachelorette, I was feeling really

tired I feel so old right now.

I don't know if I was hungover or

what, but I remember we were doing

the, like, the pedal bus oh yeah.

I was like, girl, wake up.

I didn't know that.

Gosh, I thought you were just like

having the

best time ever.

I was having the best time ever, it was

like one of those where I was like, I

feel like I'm in my thirties right now.

Yeah.

you said like if I had any crazy stories,

this is not like I just had a friend

over who I grew up with, but she's

currently living in Texas, so she stopped

by, the other day and she's planning,

so her sister's getting married she

was planning kind of like a surprise

bachelorette party kind of thing.

Well, part of it was all planned out.

It was just like her cousins and really

good friends and like the bridal party,

but they were at this beach and then all

of a sudden all of these women, so her

aunts, her mom, her grandma, they all

came in their original wedding dress,

their wedding dresses, with the big poofy

sleeves and everything and the veils.

And they all surprised her.

And then they went out to all these and

all the women were like in their wedding

gowns.

And I'm like, that is so funny.

I love that.

Did you see that trend a while back?

That was like, you go to Goodwill

and you buy like an old lady dress?

No, but I've always wanted to do

that.

Yes.

Oh my gosh.

Why didn't we do that for this podcast?

I don't

know.

We just like wearing

eighties wedding dresses.

Oh my gosh.

That would've been so funny.

It's funny you say that actually,

because right before I was getting

ready to come on, I was like, oh, we

should have done a theme and like.

Or something, but I was

like, you literally see like

this far up in my head, so

yeah.

That's so funny.

I know.

That would've been really funny if we

just like, we like didn't talk about it.

we just came out and

like acted like, yeah.

Like it was totally normal.

Next time I might need

some wine if we do that.

Speaking of, I don't think

I'm a wine person anymore.

I don't know.

I bought a bottle of wine.

Yeah.

and my husband Zach was somewhere last

night, he was at a friend's house and

I like poured a glass I texted him,

I was like, I'm pouring this out.

This is like this.

I just can't,

is it the sugar free

wine.

Oh, okay.

Is it because like, do

you drink other stuff or?

No,

I honestly couldn't tell you

the last time I had a drink.

Wow.

I am so.

I'm just proud of you guys

because Zach doesn't drink

and now you are not drinking.

And I'm,

it's not like that.

I'm not, like, if I was at a social

event, I would maybe have a drink.

I'm trying to think.

Have I been anywhere now?

I can't remember.

I feel like there was somewhere I

was at recently and I had a drink.

Anyways, we're getting off topic again.

I don't even know if there is a topic.

Okay.

I feel like I always think of crazy

stories that I wanna tell later.

So if as it comes up, it, maybe it'll,

We're gonna switch things up this

week and we are gonna do rapid fire.

Mm-hmm.

So this is gonna be a this or that.

So some wedding chaos addition.

So, just like for different,

like wedding things.

Okay.

Would you rather cry in the bridal

suite over a seating chart or cry on

the dance floor in front of everybody?

Cry in private.

Is it my wedding?

if it's my wedding, I can cry.

I don't care if it's not my wedding.

I'm not crying and making it about me.

This is about them.

Yeah.

I think these are for your wedding.

I don't know.

Hmm.

I

mean, whatever, whatever you're thinking.

Yeah.

would you rather have one therapy session

before your wedding planning starts?

Or unlimited venting voice

notes from your best friend?

I would see a therapy session

every week leading up to a

marriage, and then after, no,

yeah, I have to say therapy.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Would you rather have a mother-in-law

who overs, shares everything, or

one who silently judges everything.

Oh, overshare, please.

I wanna be comfortable.

And

you want someone that overs, shares

like my stuff?

Yeah.

Mm. I don't care.

I'm pretty vulnerable.

what would she share?

Like let's say If I was pregnant and she

was like telling people I'd be pissed.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Oh yeah, no.

Or like maybe you've been having really

bad pain and you've been going to

see the doctor and she's like telling

everybody at church or something.

Oh, and what was my other option?

Or silently judges you.

I think everyone judges, right?

Yeah.

So

I'm sure everyone like

has, I guess that's fine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now that you say it that way, like

I'd rather her just be like, Ugh.

And she's not sharing with

people, so that's fine.

Yeah.

Keep it an all to ourselves.

Yeah.

would you rather forget your

vows or say them perfectly while

having a visible panic sweat?

I would forget my vows.

Because I would be able to say great

things about my partner either way.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

There you go.

I'll get you so well spoken.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, I agree with that Would you rather

lose your cool during a dress fitting

or during your rehearsal dinner speech?

Wait, I'm laughing because I just realized

we never talked about my dress fitting.

Should we talk about it?

I, I just thought about that.

Yes.

Tell the story please.

Because I immediately thought about that.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

So I can believe I've never

like, shared this before.

was it my first dress fitting?

No, I think it was your second.

So it was to try it on.

So I went into my dress fitting

and I think for that one it was

no 'cause you had already been

there before.

Yeah, this was,

yeah.

So this is your second time.

So I must have gone, did I go by myself?

I think Jordan went with you

the first time, didn't she?

And then I went with you the second time.

Okay.

Jordan and my mother-in-law, I

think went the first time maybe.

Yeah, pretty sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so I go and first okay me,

you and my mom pull up, or no, you

are maybe behind us or something.

We pull up and I called the

woman and she was like, I don't

have any appointments today.

And I'm like, yeah, you

have an appointment.

Like, we're outside.

and she's like, Nope,

I'm looking at the books.

I don't have anything.

She's like, can you come back?

And I was like, well, my maid

of honor and my mom or are here

and they live an hour away.

Like, we can't really

just reschedule today.

And she's like, oh, okay, I'll,

be there in like 30 minutes.

Can you just go to the local coffee shop?

Which ended up being really cool.

That's a great experience.

It was really great 'cause it was friends

theme and we're big fans of friends

around here, so that was really cute.

But we go back and she's

like, still not there.

And then she like.

Quickly comes around the front lets us in.

No, she doesn't even let us in.

I think we let ourselves in.

She's in the back, doesn't

even come out to say anything.

And you can just like hear

her back there and she's like,

yeah, I'll, be out in a second.

And I was like, okay.

It was like another, what, 20 minutes?

Yeah.

We were waiting for a while.

Yeah.

she was a grandma, right?

Mm-hmm.

So she had, was it one grand baby or two?

Just the one, I think one was there and

she was like, toddler, she was a toddler.

this woman is stressed out, sweating.

I can hear like, like in the back,

things falling down, being knocked over.

I mean, I feel

the

tense, like tension?

Yes.

And the kid's like grandma or

I don't even know what it was.

And here I am like playing, I

think, the little kid had like

Easter eggs, like little eggs with

like stuff in it or something.

That's what I remember.

Oh wow.

I don't even remember that.

I was just trying to like, yeah, I don't

know, make the situation a little bit

better and entertain the kid, but yes.

So keep going.

So then she was like, what was your name?

I was like, Krista.

And like, she was like flipping through

pages back there in this room in the back.

And she's like, yeah,

okay, we've got your dress.

we'll get it on.

And she comes rushing out

and puts it in the room.

And I like go in there by myself.

I like, shut the door or

did I go in there by myself?

No, I can't remember.

And then I like slowly

open it or something.

And I was like, Eva, come here.

And you're like, what?

And like, so you and my mom

came in and I was like, there's

blood all over the dress.

Mm-hmm.

it wasn't just like a couple spots, it

was all over, underneath the layers.

Like a trail of everywhere she

was touching, which is the whole.

Dress, she was leaving blood everywhere.

Yes.

And I feel like she like overheard me

say that and then like kind of came back

and she's like, oh, it's just a spot.

And then just quickly sprayed and wiped.

And I was like, internally panicking

because like in that point of course,

sure most things can come out, but it's

just like a kind of a weird thing to be

like there's someone else's blood on your

dress when you're like here to try it on.

Yeah.

I think she was like

panicked doing it fast.

Like really fast.

Mm-hmm.

And I was like, okay, you know what?

They said something's gonna happen

wrong during your wedding planning.

And I said, this is the thing.

And I'm just glad it's

my dress and it's early.

And I think I was internally panicking,

but I think at that point you kind

of took the lead and you were just

like, okay, what's going on here?

Like mm-hmm.

And you were like, just, kind, but

you were very like, firm with her.

Like, okay, what are we doing here?

And she's like, I don't know.

And then she held her hands up and her

hands had cuts all over them, almost

like she was just moving really fast.

So I think what happened is she

had me down for the wrong date.

And then when I called and said I

was outside, she panicked and was

like, I have to do this right now.

Which if she just said, I forgot,

I would've been like, don't worry.

Yes.

If we

would've known, like it wasn't just,

oh, I don't have, anything booked,

but like, it's actually not done.

even after that, you are so understanding.

I was shocked.

I saw everything happen.

Like, okay, late stress is going up.

she's.

In the bath, you can feel the tension.

Your stress level's going up.

Oh my gosh.

Your dress, your wedding dress is covered

in blood stress is like up at the top.

But then once I like talked

to her, you talked to her.

I think your mom too maybe.

I can't really remember, but I feel like

your stress level was going down and

then I feel like at the end of it, did

you hug her or is that my imagination?

Yeah.

So you hugged

her?

I could tell she was so like embarrassed

cause I feel like there's people on

the internet that like here, like, oh,

you're an empath, blah, blah, blah.

But like I can sense, and some

people out there might agree, they

might call me weird, whatever.

But when there's tension or I can

tell someone's trying to hold in.

Like if they're upset, I can sense it.

I swear to God it's like a sixth sense.

I just felt like I believe that.

Yeah.

So even when she got like the spots,

she got most of the spots out.

She was spraying it and then

I finally tried it on, right?

So I'm staying in the mirror and

she's doing her normal thing.

But you can tell like

she's holding back tears.

Like I could tell and this

poor woman, like you could tell

she does not do this normally.

She kept saying, I've

never done this before.

I've been in business for this

long, I've never done this before.

I'm so sorry.

Kept saying sorry.

And like, we've all been in shitty

positions where like we either

forget something or we mess up

something, we're late to something.

we've all done that.

And so like I could tell even when she was

looking at the dress and I was standing on

the podium or whatever, whatever you wanna

call it, she was like holding back tears.

And I think she felt so embarrassed.

And so then when we were booking the

next appointment, she was like shaking.

I remember seeing her hand shake

'cause she was so embarrassed.

And I go, Hey, it's okay.

I was like, it's fine.

we are good.

You did a great job.

And I was like, can I hug you?

And I was like, I remember that.

I don't even know what she

said, I was like teary-eyed

I feel like the tears coming right

now because no bride does that.

just says so much about your character

and not to like, whatever, kiss your butt.

But no, seriously, like.

It's your wedding dress.

Every little girl dreams about getting

married and like having the perfect

dress and you have a situation and at

the end of it, instead of, taking your

dress, going somewhere else, you're

being like, I better get this for free.

none of that.

It was, Hey, you did a great job.

And I remember you asked her

for a hug and she was like, yes.

And I saw you guys hugging and I

remember looking at your mom and we

were both like, just so moved by that.

And it was just so sweet to

see and yeah, such a good story.

And when we left, there was

still blood on the dress.

Like you said that she cleaned it all up.

She didn't get it all off.

there was still blood on the dress.

Do you remember that?

A lot of spots, I think.

Yes.

Yeah, I think 'cause I was just like.

Why, and I don't know where

this comes from, but I'm like,

why make someone feel worse?

she probably feels terrible right now

that she like messed up or forgot or,

you know, she's so embarrassed because I

read these stories with these bridezillas

and honestly, most stories that get

sent to me aren't bridezilla stories.

They're mostly like

family related, whatever.

but you read them and you're like,

why make someone feel bad for like

a mistake or an accident or I've

worked in the restaurant industry,

I know you have two and it's like

you've seed stuff like that too.

People are terrible to people

in the service industry.

People are terrible to anyone

that's just trying to help them out.

And I'm like, I would feel awful

leaving knowing that she was

crying because of that situation.

I want her to be like, no.

I'm still your customer.

you're busy.

You do a great job.

I obviously came to you because

you were recommended by me.

I'm not gonna leave like

a bad review or anything.

The dress ended up looking gorgeous.

Like, I loved that dress.

I still love it.

there's so many heightened emotions

around weddings and I feel like

it's so easy to lose your cool.

Of course, like you hear about it all

the time, but you to remember like the

people you're working with are human too.

Like they're allowed to make this.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

I'll never forget it.

Yeah, I knew, I was

like, no, she hugged her.

I remember she asked for a hug,

and honestly, that's kind of, I

shouldn't say out of my character to

ask someone for a hug, like a stranger.

I know Something came over

me and I was just like, she

really needs a hug right now.

And I just felt, 'cause I just, I

remember just seeing her handshake

as she was like writing the next

appointment and I go, Hey, it's okay.

We're fine.

Yeah, yeah.

Wedding day will be great.

Like, honestly.

And she was like so sweet and

she was like, send me pictures

of the dress and, all that.

yeah, I don't know.

I just, she probably went home that

day to like tell her family and then

she probably said how great you were.

And like, I can't believe it.

She hugged me at the end, I felt so bad.

And, thank God she was a good

bride, like a sweet person.

yeah,

I don't know.

she was great.

and then I recommended, I feel like

there's a few groomsmen in her wedding

that went to her and Bridesmaids.

'cause I was like, go to her.

She's great.

She's local for some of us

and yeah, she was awesome.

Yeah, like you said, she was a

grandmother, so she's very grandmother

like, motherly, like very sweet.

Like that.

And I was like, I'm not about to

make someone feel bad for that.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

I've like really never talked

about it just 'cause like.

I never would want it to get back to her

like I was like talking about a mistake.

Mm-hmm.

But obviously I'm not gonna say

the name or anything, but that.

She was amazing

Yeah.

I remember that.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Would you rather relive wedding planning

with your current emotional tools?

Or do it all again with

zero coping skills?

These are so wild.

No.

Why?

Yeah.

Do it now.

I would do things so differently now.

What would you do different?

I try to set myself up for like

successful marriage, but a part of me.

I feel like I did like 80% of the

things that I wanted, but I feel like I

could have fought a little bit harder,

like stood my ground on like, the

20% of the things that I really was

like, I need to make sure I do this.

Like, I wish I would've incorporated,

more like family in our ceremony.

or, like more, cultural traditions,

although I did have those kind of

elements, but even more of that and

like embraced it and took pride in it.

but it's all like a growth process.

Like you're growing, right?

You get married at some people,

20 some people, thirties, but

you're gonna be different in

your twenties from your thirties.

So yeah.

Great.

Obviously.

Yeah, I think about that

too every once in a while.

Like, what would I change?

Honestly, I think most everything

I'm still pretty happy with,

but I feel like I was really.

Not concerned is the wrong word,

but with like the guest lists and

stuff, like where I made cuts, I'm

proud of how we were with some of it.

'cause I'm like, oh, if Zach and I had

gotten married, like when we first started

dating, let's say 23, 24, it would've

been a completely different guest list.

I think way bigger.

I was gonna say your guest

list would've been huge.

Yeah.

I just feel like, 'cause at that point

it's like everyone's your best friend.

I feel like wedding party

would've been way different.

I feel like more of a yes girl.

okay, yeah, yeah, let's do that.

We probably would've had a, rely more on

parents for help or for, different things.

And I just feel like that

changes as you get older.

If you're like, you've been

to more weddings, so you're

like, okay, I like that.

I don't like that.

This is my style.

That's not, but there were still

outside of that, there were still like

people that we invited and then we

were like, never talk to them again.

Yeah.

And we were like.

Just, we invited them 'cause they

were like friends of a friend.

And then looking back, so I was

like really strict with like,

other than our nieces and nephews,

I didn't invite anyone under 21.

And I had some cousins that

were like middle teens.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm like, I wish I

would've invited them.

I don't know if a lot of them

would've come 'cause they, like,

they would've had a fly and stuff.

Yeah.

But I'm just like, I kind of wish

I invited like all my cousins.

Sure.

That makes sense to

me.

Again, like yeah.

Different, if they lived all here,

I then, they would've all come, but

Yeah.

I definitely wish I would've had more

of like my cousins in our wedding party.

I have a little brother who's way

younger than me, but all of Matt's

siblings, they were in the wedding party.

But I grew up with my cousins

who were like my siblings.

So had one of my cousins in there,

but I wish I would've had the

other three siblings 'cause they're

like my brothers and sisters.

And that's something that

I'm always like, Ugh.

I asked actually my cousin last

minute, I was like, please.

He's like, okay, what

do I need to bring Eva?

what do I have to wear to

match your bridal party?

And so we made it work, but I

wish I would've done it like

the right way from the beginning

so that they felt like special.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How does it's like relationships

change or you visualize it a certain

way or, I feel like we get this idea

in our head and then we're like,

why am I making it such a big deal?

just come in the wedding or, yeah.

It's like, I totally agree with that.

I think too, like, we had our nieces and

nephews in the wedding and I'm like, our

one niece that I think at the time was 13.

I wish I would've like.

Had her stand the whole time like,

with all the bridesmaids and done

something special like for her.

And then I wish our nephews

that weren't in the wedding had

a special role or something.

Yeah.

yeah, I think it's interesting, but

we always think about those things.

I think too, it probably changes

out that we're moms and like family.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like family.

I dunno.

Yeah.

Maybe that's it too.

I still am very like firm on, ' cause

this is one of those most controversial

things, and this is a hot take.

I shouldn't say a hot take from my end,

but like what people, anytime I post

a video about kids at weddings mm-hmm.

It's so like controversial.

Mm-hmm.

There are people that say it's

not a wedding if kids are not

invited and there's people saying,

don't invite your kids or don't.

Bring your kids to my wedding

because I don't want them there.

You know?

So they're just like polar opposites.

I've been to weddings with no kids.

They've been fun.

I've been to weddings with tons

of kids and they've been fun.

Sure.

Neither of them are going to affect,

I feel like how the wedding is.

It's just like if the bride and

groom want them there, but I stand

is you don't need your bosses kids

there that you've never Right.

But if it's kids that are like in your

life and they're important to you, then

yeah, I feel like they should be there.

I feel like it should

be a relationship thing.

That's where I'm at.

' cause some people are like, well if their

kids are there, then mine should be there.

And it's like, well,

do they know your kids?

Have you brought them around?

Just because there are some

kids there doesn't mean that

everyone's kids should be there.

Yeah.

I get that.

Yeah.

That's my 2 cents on that, so.

Oh, yeah.

I agree a hundred percent.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

But I like, remember when my sister got

married, she didn't invite any kids,

so no one, like under 18, I think.

And there were like certain family members

that like, called my grandma, not even

like my mom, but called like my grandma.

And we're like, why aren't kids invited?

and we're talking like distant

family members, we're talking

like my mom's cousin mm-hmm.

Talking about their kids

who like, we barely saw.

Right.

And they were like, well, when

are the kids getting invited?

And we're like, when's the last

time they like talked to my sister?

You things like that were

kind of weird, but, yeah.

I don't know.

It's interesting how people,

yeah, you just gotta respect what

the brain groom want, I guess.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Before we get too far into this,

let me read, don't worry, this,

story is not as long as last ones.

I know Last time our story

was so long, so, so long.

Here we go.

We almost, it was so long.

You're like, should we stop now

and record the other half later?

No, I was like, do we need a part two?

Because so much happened.

That was with that one.

Oh gosh.

If you guys haven't listened all

last episode with Eva, I don't

even remember what number it was.

I should look it up.

But it was the craziest story.

it was like about a wedding influencer.

Mm-hmm.

And it was like she was using

everything for her content.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

That was an insane story.

So guys, go back and listen to episode 12.

If you haven't.

cause it's wild.

Okay.

This week's story, this is about

my sister, the bride, and how

one joke she made and did with

me not showing up to her wedding.

Ooh, ooh, this is getting spicy.

Okay.

I've never heard it from this perspective.

It's always interesting hearing from a

different perspective because, so many

times I post stories and people are like,

you're only getting one side of things.

I'm like, yeah, well, it's

usually how stories work, right?

You only get one side.

So I just have to take what I can.

So it's interesting to kind

of hear from another person.

Honestly, I've gone back and forth

about whether to even share this,

but I've been sitting heavy on it.

And I just need to get it out.

I've been dealing with

depression for years, a therapy

meds, good days and bad days.

The whole thing my family knows,

especially my parents, but I don't

really talk about it too much.

It's just a lot.

Anyway, my older sister

got married recently.

She's always been the golden child,

super loud, super confident, always

the fun one at family gatherings.

I've always been more

low key, kind of quiet.

She doesn't really understand

mental health stuff.

Never really tried to, but I

didn't expect her to be cruel.

A few weeks before the wedding, we had

the rehearsal dinner at a restaurant.

Why is the rehearsals

dinner a few weeks before?

That's interesting to me.

Or the week of, just close friends,

family and her fiance's family.

She got out to do a test run of her

thank you speech, trying to be funny.

I don't know.

Then she said this.

Huge thanks to my sister

for showing up tonight.

We were starting to think they'd

never crawl out of their sad little

dungeon depression Boss level.

Finally defeated.

What?

No.

What?

No.

That is terrible.

Yeah.

That's so many different.

That's so bad.

They dungeon depression.

Yeah.

so she's basically calling

you out in front of everybody.

Mm-hmm.

And especially the fact that she

never even tried to understand your

depression or talk to you about

it or like be a sister to you.

Yeah.

And instead is just

trying to embarrass you.

Oh my gosh.

Okay.

Everyone left.

Full on left and I just sat there frozen,

literally didn't know what to say.

After dinner.

I pulled her aside and told her

straight up, Hey, that wasn't okay.

That joke hurt.

And she goes, oh my God,

are you serious right now?

It's just a joke.

Get over it.

You act like you're the

only one with problems.

I didn't even reply.

I just left.

Okay.

There's like a lot, but that's that

kind of attitude of like, get over it.

Mental health's not real.

You're fine.

We all have issues.

You know, it's like

I

just

feel like all of her sister's hard work.

If you already know, like if you know

that, okay, I can't believe you're here.

I'm shocked that you left

your dungeon, whatever.

I'm shocked you left your bedroom.

What makes you think that saying that

is gonna make her come out again like

that probably took so much courage

and shows, oh, I love you, so I'm

coming to support you, my sister.

And that's how you repay

her by making fun of it.

So what?

So you can get a couple laughs in at your

wedding and make you look funny, make

you look good on your wedding day and now

look at that now your sister's not there.

Yeah.

So I know it's like they say your, friends

are sometimes your, like first bullies.

I've never heard that, but

that makes a lot of sense.

I see that all the time

because maybe I made up that.

Tell me if I took that from somebody

I would always say my friends were

my first bullies friends, that

I had in like elementary school,

specifically one in high school.

We can get to that because she

always pretended to care about me.

but she was the first one

to put me down in a group.

She was the first one to make fun

of me, first one to leave me out.

First one I remember being at a friend's

house and they were all drinking and I

wasn't, and she literally made fun of me

and then went back to school and said that

I was an like a narc for not drinking.

Yeah, as therapist, being in that world

and having adolescents come to me, I hear

that all the time, makes perfect sense.

Like, your closest friends

are your first bullies or like

your friends are your, bullies.

And it's like, it's almost more dangerous.

because some people don't recognize

it because it's like, oh, they're my

friend they're obviously not actually

bullying me, but yes, a hundred percent.

So it sounds like, yeah, the sister's

definitely the bully in the situation

and yeah, she has to pay the price.

no, I was just say because yeah, I feel

like you said, it is more dangerous

because that's striving to be liked,

especially depending on the age.

Like you're striving so hard to be liked

and you want that relationship, right?

And so you see the good times

with this person, or they're

including you in things, right?

So you're unable to see like, oh,

they're including me because I'm the

butt of the joke, or, you know, right.

Is it's like if you're in a bad

relationship with someone you can

see the good moments and you're

like, push past the bad moments,

like toxic or abusive or something.

You're like, oh, but he brought

me flowers the next day.

So it's like a friend like that,

that friend I had in high school,

it when I was the only one, oh my

gosh, there's Krista, oh hey girl.

Oh, you wanna go shopping tonight?

Oh yeah.

But then if there was other people around,

I was like pushed aside, I was made fun

of, I was talked about behind my back.

I mean, she doesn't say that she has

any kind of relationship with her.

Right.

So it sounds like they just are

completely different personalities.

okay, so she says.

I didn't even reply.

I just left a couple

days before the wedding.

I texted her and said

I wouldn't be coming.

Kept it short.

Told her I wasn't feeling well,

and wished her a beautiful day.

She called me immediately flipping out.

See, it's like now she wants her there.

She wants that body there.

Yeah, because it looks bad if

she doesn't have her sister.

Like why doesn't she mm-hmm.

Have that person?

She said I was being selfish

making her wedding about me, and

that I ruined everything over.

One little comment.

Now my parents are mad too.

Apparently I'm the bad guy.

The fact that her parents didn't even

back her up or be like, Hey, maybe

don't, say that about your sister.

yeah, it's problematic because

it sounds like this other sister

gets her way quite a bit like.

she's like the life of

the party kind of thing.

And she probably like, not sneaky here

and there, but she just like makes light

of all the situations to get a laugh.

the parents are probably

like, oh, it's fine.

Like, you know, your sister,

but that doesn't make it okay.

because you're used to certain

patterns or someone's behavior

does not mean that it is okay.

poor girl.

Yeah.

I think too, if the other

sister's the golden child, 'cause

she's like, well liked quote

unquote, and like very outgoing.

Maybe she's more friends

and gets out and does stuff.

They kind of put her on

this pedestal, right?

So like whatever she does can go, but

I'm like, can't you see your other

daughter is like suffering right now?

And like mm-hmm.

I

don't

know.

That would be

really, and it's funny that you

said what the sister said was.

Oh, I can't believe, like,

did you say she's making it

about herself or something?

Like you would think she would apologize?

Mm-hmm.

Like, I'm sorry, but I didn't

hear an apology at all.

It was all about like,

yeah,

yeah,

no.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, because she doesn't care.

I keep replaying it all

like maybe, did I overreact?

I don't know.

But also I was already struggling,

and then to be laughed at like

that in front of everyone, it

just broke something in me.

I couldn't fake it.

I couldn't go and pretend

everything was fine just to

protect her perfect day, honestly.

I always talk about protecting your

peace and if someone's gonna bully you

and say something like that to you.

Yeah.

It's like you have to.

I feel like she was doing

the opposite, honestly.

Mm-hmm.

She wasn't making it about herself.

She's like, I'm gonna excuse myself

from this because if I go, I risk

the chance of being humiliated again.

Maybe someone comes up to me

and says, Hey, that speech was

really funny from your sister.

Mm-hmm.

Or, Hey, how's that whole you

know, like there, it gives people

permission then to keep going.

Yeah.

I'm proud of her.

Good for you for standing

your ground lady.

Yeah.

I agree.

And it's like, complicated,

all this stuff.

Again, we're only seeing and hearing

one side, if the sister were to write

in, I'm sure she would say, right.

I did, I did apologize.

It was just a joke.

Mm-hmm.

And anyone that, even if it was just

a joke, right, if someone's calling

to you and saying, your joke hurt

my feelings and you can't apologize.

You're the problem That is a problem.

Mm-hmm.

Because like even if I were to be like,

make a joke to you right now, and I

could tell it hurt your feelings, I'd

be like, oh, I'm sorry I was Yeah.

Joking at me in that way.

Like, I would never want to hurt

someone's feelings that I care about.

Mm-hmm.

my thing is something that I've learned

to do for, just in general, when someone

does make a joke that to me is not funny.

instead of standing my ground

or like defending myself,

I'm like, why is it funny?

tell me why that's funny.

And then they're like, oh, and then they

feel because they realize like, oh, I

was actually being an asshole, or I was

kinda being a bitch about the situation.

No, I've actually heard that a lot and

I've had to do that a couple times.

When people say sexist or racist

things, I go, I don't understand.

Tell me why.

That's funny.

Oh, yeah, that's what I mean all the time.

I'm like, oh, why is that funny?

Tell it's funny.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I actually had do that not that long ago.

Someone was making a joke and

I was like, I don't understand.

And then they like didn't know

what to say because then when

they have to break it down, they

realize how d offensive, ignorant.

Yeah.

Whatever.

Yeah.

and I think people learn then not

to say stuff around me and like, I

just don't put up with it anymore.

Yeah.

Good for you.

The world's full of enough

hate, like I need to make it

clear where I stand and I, yes.

Joke like that.

Chris is a girl's girl,

everyone, so always love.

Yeah.

we don't make sexist or

racist jokes around here.

Yeah.

Is that how the kids do it now?

Yeah.

Wait, how is it this?

No.

Oh gosh.

Wait.

Oh, this.

I can't even do that.

Yeah.

If you guys are just listening,

we're trying to do this.

Girl.

I'm just gonna stick the T Swift part.

I know

my

daughter, she does this because T

Swift,

so she, I love

it.

It's funny, like the thing about

ask your kids to hold up a phone.

Mm-hmm.

my daughter started playing with,

like pretending to do phone calls.

She has a fake phone.

Yeah.

Phone.

She goes like this.

She goes, and she'll be

like, she's like, hi, spidey.

Hi.

It's me.

Bye.

I love that.

I'm like, oh my gosh, what happened?

This,

I'm still

like, like the rotary?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

My parents had a rotary in their room

growing up and I'd be like, oh my gosh.

Those

things were so

fun to play with.

I know.

They were fun.

I kind of wish we still

had house phones, to be

honest.

I keep telling Matt, my husband

that we need a house phone back.

Yeah, there's like pros and cons.

Like, I like being able to have a phone,

like when we go on a walk or I don't know.

We are driving somewhere.

Right, sure.

It's like safety reasons, I think

I've told you this before too, 'cause

like you've apologized like, oh sorry.

And I'm like, Yvette, you

never have to apologize.

You're busy.

I get it.

Like I never want someone to think

that like this is a walkie talkie

and that like when I text you,

you have to respond right away.

Like, I'm not summoning you.

But I feel like there's like

this, power phones have over

us where we feel like, ah.

Someone texts me like, I

need to get back to them.

And like, Zach has that where he's

like, if I don't text them back,

I feel like I'm letting them down.

I'm like, people will live.

if it's not an urgent request,

you can give it a day or two.

And isn't that crazy how

that seems long for a text?

yeah, for me it takes me

ages, so I'm like, whatever.

But yeah, I hate my phone.

I feel like we just need to like, put

our phones away as soon as we get home.

don't use 'em at the same time.

I'm addicted to them, I

hate texting because I like.

Connection with people and texting is so

impersonal that I'm like, I don't like it.

I would much rather do this FaceTime

you call you, even like hear your voice.

I would much rather prefer that I'm

like old school when it comes to that.

Yeah, I agree.

I don't wanna tell big news

or hear big news via text.

And so I feel like, especially

like with you, I feel like we'll

catch up sometimes I'd rather like

really catch up like in person and

like have our, deep one-on-ones.

'cause I'm like, texting.

How's it going?

Is for like acquaintances?

Yes.

Like, hey, how's it going?

Oh, how's everything?

Okay, great.

It feels so not real.

And I'm like, wait.

Yeah.

I wanna talk to you.

I wanna see you.

I miss you.

Yeah,

yeah, exactly.

Let's go beyond the surface.

yeah, yeah.

Okay.

There's a little bit more of the story.

okay.

It says, now she isn't talking to me.

It's been a few weeks.

No apology, nothing.

Just silence.

I keep wondering if I should have just

sucked it up and gone for the sake

of family peace or avoid the drama.

But at the same time, I know how

low I felt after that dinner.

I know how hard I worked to just

show up that night, like you were

saying, and then to have her turn me

into a punchline, like my pain was

entertainment and the worst part,

I'm the one everyone's upset with.

My parents say I embarrassed the

family that I should have put my

feelings aside for one day, but

no one's asking how I felt being

laughed at in a room full of people.

No one's asking how hard

it was to just be there.

I don't know what's gonna happen with us.

Maybe we'll talk

eventually, maybe we won't.

That makes me really sad.

It's so hard

because I see both sides a little

bit now because it is your big day.

You want your sister, but like,

if that would've been the case,

then you would've apologized and

you would've been like, I'm sorry.

You would've said, I'm sorry.

And try to mend the relationship so that

your sister could go to the wedding.

But I'm on her side, you

should not feel bad about this.

I'm so proud of you again,

for standing your ground.

And like you said, they no longer

have any ammo to keep doing this

to you because now everyone can

recognize like, oh no, she's serious.

and good for you.

there's this thing, the Let Them theory

or like the book, let them, yeah.

And it's a little like,

just let them, that's okay.

And they'll live.

You'll live.

And hopefully in the future, if it's

supposed to be fixed, it will be fixed.

And I hope that you get your

apology, but you might not.

But what I hope for most is that

you can forgive your sister which

takes a of work, but you don't

need an apology to forgive someone.

But if you don't forgive someone.

It's gonna be eating at eu, that

other person's gonna be living their

life not even thinking about it.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

And that's why you're the professional.

Yeah.

I'm just here to chat.

And you like guys, Yvette

is, an official, like you

are official.

I got my certificate in the mail.

I'm like, yay.

Yes.

What's your like, official title

for everyone that's listening?

Licensed professional counselor.

So she can give actual advice.

I mean, I'm sure like there's

stipulations that you can't give.

Yes.

You're right.

Like this is general.

I

actually can't give advice.

I'm more like, you go

girl, what are we doing?

What are you In general?

Yeah.

they're not your client.

You're just giving your professional.

Yeah.

I love that.

Because I can listen to this story, right.

And I can be like, I know what I

would do in certain situations, right?

Well, one, I wanna be the

little sister that would bully.

I would never call someone out like that.

Yeah.

but yeah, I get what you're saying too.

It's like I've been the people

pleaser before too, where you

just suck it up and you attend.

It is more complicated when

it's a sister versus a friend.

Like, yeah, 100%.

If a friend treated me like

that, I'd be like, I don't

think I can go to the wedding.

I mean, everything's so complicated.

It's like Right.

The whole story.

We don't know the details.

We're not her.

And the fact is that she

made the best choice for her.

And right now it's gonna be hard looking

back and being like, did I overreact?

Why do they all act like

I'm the villain now?

Because I didn't show up.

But in reality, she stuck it to

like, I mean, she really held

from on her boundaries, which

not a lot of people can say.

I don't think I would've been that strong.

Yeah.

Someone did that to me.

I'm like, trying to think if, only taking

this information right here, I probably

still would've gone to the wedding.

And I would've probably gone.

That's the people pleaser coming out.

And I am, that way too.

And it's funny that I say that 'cause I

don't think, I really don't, I feel like

you say, oh, I used to be such a people

pleaser, but I've seen you work so hard on

your boundaries, like setting boundaries

and being like, I know your boundaries.

So I know like, I don't wanna say like

what I can get away with or what I

not, but like I know what's acceptable

and what's not acceptable, around you.

And I respect it even more for that.

What

boundaries do I have that

you

can't do around me?

Um, oh no.

Uh, I feel like with, not really with me.

I just

Respect your privacy, respect that

you're protective over your daughter

and it makes me respect you more, but

also with like, family dynamics or

like friend, you know what I mean?

Like different kind of things.

Like you're firm in that and

I'm like, I love you for that.

So that's, yeah.

Yeah.

I always try to say like, I'm a recovering

people pleaser, I'm better saying like,

no to things or like, I know right off

the bat, if Zach's like, oh, we were

invited to this and this, and I'll be

like, that doesn't sound like something

that would interest me, or I wanna spend

my time doing, like, we were talking

today about valuable friendships or

like where we wanna spend our time.

Right?

and this is not to sound in a certain

way, but like, if it's, let's say

it's like an old friend of Zach's

that I never met from years ago.

It's like, let's catch up and get dinner.

I'm like, you go have fun.

Like you take all night.

Do your thing, I'll stay home.

for me, that's just, I'd rather be home.

But if it's like, let's catch up with our

good friends and like have a date night.

Yeah.

I'm in.

Yeah.

So it's like really like spending time

of what's gonna bring you joy cause I

feel like a lot of times in my twenties,

I would just say yes to things because

someone would invite us and we'd go Yeah.

And I'd be like, I wanted to stay

home and I didn't listen to myself.

Yeah.

And now I'm just like,

no, I wanna do this.

Or yeah.

I feel like it's just we have

to listen to those gut feelings

'cause they're there for a reason.

yeah.

That's good.

Yeah.

I think I say something else.

You were saying something else and I

was like, oh yeah, that's a good point.

I think too well, yeah, about

like boundaries and stuff.

Like, so many times people think like if

you have a boundary, you're like rude.

And I think that's what I

told myself this whole life.

When I was younger, like I

didn't know what boundaries were.

Right?

And I thought, like if people

said no, like you're rude, like

they're gonna talk bad about you.

But in reality, like if you just say

things respectfully or you just carry

yourself in a certain way, people then

just kind of like learn is okay with

this person or just don't, say this

around this person or that kind of thing.

Like,

back to what I said, I think when

you start to implement boundaries in

your life, it equals respect because

people recognize like, oh, they respect

themselves enough to like stand up

for themselves, that it makes them.

Hopefully respect them, and if

not, like, then they're cut off.

You know what I mean?

But essentially, like what

it does is it builds respect

Because yeah, I think if this happened

to me in my twenties or something,

whether it was like my sister or a

friend of mine or something, right.

I think I would've gone, and then I

would've like let it eat at me and

I would've just held onto this, like

you said, it would just affect you.

Like you would just hold onto it.

And then like every little thing they

would do would probably make me mad

or I would just hold onto this grudge

and it would probably just be bigger.

and yeah.

'cause there were friendships I

held onto for a long time that

were like, they were awful to me.

I can still think about

all the things I did.

And then literally, it was like one

day in my like mid twenties, I was just

like, I'm not gonna call that person.

And then they didn't call me and it was

just kind of just like, yeah, hard time.

after her kind of describing

how she all felt after it.

I don't blame her one bitch.

She knew what she needed to do to

protect her peace in that moment, and if

I were her, I won't expect An apology.

Mm-hmm.

It doesn't sound like the

sisters want to apologize if she

can't see why you're hurt now.

Unless she grows a lot

over the next, year or so.

Maybe

it'll happen, you know, that there's

gonna be some kind of conversation in

the future about this, your sisters,

yeah.

Yeah.

It's not

happen.

It's complicated.

Mm-hmm.

All right.

That was a crazy story, and that was sad.

Sometimes they end and they're sad, and

I'm just like, I make these skits online

and they're so like, drama filled and

they're entertainment, but like, deep

down, a lot of these stories, there's

so much like heartbreak and hurt.

Like I make them in an entertaining

way that's like goofy characters.

Right, right.

But there's so much heartbreak and

hurt in a, all of these stories that

it's just like to go through this.

Like, I don't know how some

of these people go through

these things and just move on.

Like how family members are

terrible to them and they have

to like show a brave face.

I don't know how they do it because

I feel very lucky that I've never

had to deal with something like

super intense, like these stories.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Same.

I don't think I've had anything

too crazy like that either.

I can sit here and at my life

and complain about this, this,

and that, but in reality, no.

Like.

My parents, my extended family, my

immediate family, my husband, my in-laws,

they're actually really good to me.

really lucky.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

That's awesome.

All right, let's end on some

weekly confessions here.

I've been on a high note.

I mean, we'll say these confessions

go, but we can, I know you're fine.

Okay.

my husband's mom walked around,

I'm guessing at their wedding,

telling everyone she wasn't

taking pictures with me.

I

Why?

What bit, why deliberately do that though?

You just want someone to ask questions.

Like, why, why don't you like her?

Yes.

She's evil.

what is it?

Momzilla?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm. Monster in-law.

Monster.

That's what it is.

why are they like that?

this one says, I wish I'd had the guts to

tell my bestie not to bring his attention.

Seeking girlfriend.

Oof.

That's complicated.

That's complicated.

Complicated.

We'll leave it at that.

Yeah.

I just read a story.

I think it's coming out in a well, by

the time your episode comes out, it'll

already be out, but it's a similar story.

Well, I mean, this one's really short, but

where it's like a guy, girl best friend.

They like say best friends for years

through marriage and like kids.

Mm-hmm.

on her side, marriage and kids.

And then when he goes to get married,

it's like a girl that like hates her

and it's like this weird relationship.

And so like, I feel like that's

complicated and it's like, hmm.

Okay.

Last confession.

My flower girl was absolutely

out of control at my wedding.

Her parents did nothing.

Watch your kids.

Ugh.

I get that.

Like a kid's gonna be a kid.

Sure, but you gotta watch your kids.

a kid's gonna be a kid, but

the parent has to be a parent.

Like you wanted a kid,

you gotta parent the kid.

That's one of the biggest things I see

is like the kids aren't the problem.

It's when the parents don't

watch the kids at the wedding.

That's the problem.

all circumstances, right?

It's like.

I could go to a restaurant with my

child and she could pick up like a box

of creams and just throw it all over.

And I just look at them.

I'm like, whatever.

She's a kid.

Or I'm like, no, we're

gonna get on the floor.

We're gonna pick 'em up.

Right, right.

And so it's like showing her, was just

telling my husband, like, we were at

the library and like I don't want this

to come off like I'm judging because

we've all been in situations where

like, we've left a place and we're just

like, wait, did I pick up whatever?

But like, we were at the library

and this little boy's just throwing

stuff, like literally throwing

there's like a crate of toys.

He's in there throwing it.

The mom's like kind of

around, kind of on her phone.

Phone, yeah.

Walking around.

and then she finally sees him and I'm

there with like my friend and our, kids

and we're like reading a book to them.

And he's throwing stuff.

It's like hitting the girls and

I'm like just kind of grabbing it.

I'm like, oh, ha ha.

Like trying to make light of it.

She walks over, finally sees him and

she's like, oh, you made a mess over here.

So I'm thinking she's gonna sit there

and be like, this is how we clean up.

All of a sudden they're just gone

they're on the other side of the

library, so they're still there.

Like, Hey, you got this, or

Thank you.

Literally it was like, you're fine.

And then like a minute later, then he's

like pulling books off the shelves and

he was like old enough to know better.

Like it wasn't like a one or 2-year-old.

Yeah, and so it was one of

those things where I'm just

like, kids are gonna be kids.

Absolutely.

Like I would never fault a kid for like

throwing stuff or like pulling books

off, but it's like, take that risk step.

So that is kind of the risk you

have with having a flower girl, but

also like the parents are there.

Yeah.

Step in a little bit.

Yeah.

And moving forward your next wedding.

No, but like, just a tip for other people

is like having guidelines for the parents.

Like, Hey, she's a little young.

could you, like, if you see her maybe

like doing this or that, could you

kind of redirect her and help her out?

That would be like a good

conversation to have.

Yeah.

Definitely.

All right.

Well that is all we have for this week.

what exciting things do you want to share?

what's going on?

I'm going to Norway.

I'm so excited for you.

You knew that.

Yeah.

If you didn't know that, I did know that.

That'd be really bad.

Thank you so much for coming on.

It's always so funny.

You know, it's fun.

this was like three months

Oh, you came on last fall.

Remember?

Yes.

Before you even

had a podcast.

Yeah, we

got this last year.

We like did it in the future.

all right, well, I guess this is it.

Thanks for having me.

How do we say goodbye?

I'll see you soon in person.

Can't wait.

Oh, yeah.

I'll see you next weekend.