[SPEAKER_01]: All right, welcome back to another episode of the baseball America fantasy podcast is your host Jeff Ponce alongside me as always is my co-host Dylan White Dylan man.

[SPEAKER_01]: How's it going?

[SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling as a Blue Jays fan right now?

[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, series.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope the I wish the Jays would go to Cours more often.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the most recent win and after their sleep, twenty to one is like, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually couldn't watch this today's game, but I watch the other two and it's just it's it's it's bombastic all the home runs setting records for home runs.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's taken part.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of

[SPEAKER_00]: feasting on the Rockies.

[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't look too bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then it just kind of all the wheels fall off.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then it just kind of crumbles.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden it's into one or whatever when it was like two three three two or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Earlier.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, you have about the J's first place, J's.

[SPEAKER_00]: Enough about that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, the best team in the American League, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Blue J's.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now they're heading to face the Dodgers.

[SPEAKER_00]: So a bit of a different task.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, we'll see how that goes.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the Dodgers have, you know, they've been playing five hundred ball the last couple of weeks.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how that goes.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the playoff races are interesting and exciting right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the wild card is obviously starting to heat up a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of teams in the mix.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of on both sides, you know, so

[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting to see how everything ends up shaking out.

[SPEAKER_01]: You get the pesky rangers and guardians just outside in the AL and then over in the NL Cincinnati.

[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe even San Francisco, though, it is five games out.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little less close.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's two teams that are game in a half out in the AL.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you never know, still

[SPEAKER_01]: Early August, so things can flip very quickly with a hot streak and all of a sudden, somebody's running off of the division.

[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't think it was going to happen before.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, with that said, we've had the trade deadline.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel as if we're we're probably pushing up on

[SPEAKER_01]: I would say our final update of these season for dynasty list is it's not really a reason to update the dynasty list necessarily in September.

[SPEAKER_01]: If we're going to start doing up off season list in November.

[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no games played.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it gives us something to talk about.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me come back in the off season.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this is probably going to be the last dynasty update of the season.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dylan's been hard at work.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I figured some of this is going to be post tree deadline value stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not really the point or the premise of this podcast.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of just more overarching movers in the dynasty list.

[SPEAKER_01]: Correct, Dylan.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think when I was looking into who were big movers after the trade deadline, kind of like isolating people who changed teams, there wasn't that much movement.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the trade deadline itself wasn't really driving most of the movement.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like performance based mostly with, of course, the changing of the contact team contacts, their lead contacts, their depth check contacts, obviously as a factor.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was mostly performance based.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of a dynasty update conversation we're going to have.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's good stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: So why don't we get right into it then?

[SPEAKER_01]: One name that you had called to mine.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's probably a pretty easy jumping off point here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about Nick Kurtz.

[SPEAKER_01]: How much is Kurtz moving up in this dynasty list?

[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a player that we like quite a bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: This offseason kind of even coming into the draft and throughout our FYPD process.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest question with him from my mouth that least was always just, you know, can you stay healthy for a full season?

[SPEAKER_01]: So far, that's more or less happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: So Nick Kurtz, big mover, obviously the performance has been dynamic over the last couple of months.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's, uh, I just kept pushing him up and pushing him up and, uh,

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I have him in the top thirty right now and like you can argue he should go higher.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the track record isn't there yet, but you know when you hit four homerons at a game and having like the twentyth highest WRC plus in a month in history or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to help your projection.

[SPEAKER_00]: So his projections are ridiculous.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was not going to join Rosenblum the other day on oopsie his peak home run projection is higher than Aaron judges now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just being young and still his prime ahead of him.

[SPEAKER_00]: My projections have them like a thirty seven home run that so I mean I think there's going to be regression just because you know obviously he's out of tear right now and there's going to be a bit of regression there but you know being that young just hitting the ball with such authority as bat speed is like top ten in the league as well like everything's lining up he's going to be playing in a great park for a long time.

[SPEAKER_00]: He just catapults up so.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to trade in an OBP league.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to, I offered Bryce Harbour for Nick Kurtz and then I pulled it back and, you know, I probably shouldn't have pulled it back.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it's, it's hard for me to wrap around this guy who's so young.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, with such a short track record, but at the same time that means, you know, he's going to be playing for a long time at a high level.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, just kind of giving you a hint contextually where Nick Kurtz is probably going to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the, it's in the top thirty.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that that makes quite a bit of sense, you know, all the skills are there and I think, you know,

[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that's probably baked into all this with you and Jordan.

[SPEAKER_01]: But bearers, at least mentioning, is he's probably going to be in Sacramento for a couple of years.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I can imagine that Las Vegas with a major league park is going to play any differently than it has with the AAA park, which has been a pretty nice run environment, particularly for home run hitters.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe this isn't boat well for athletics pitchers, but certainly for athletics hitters and there's quite a few that are interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of them are really good dynasty assets probably none better than Nick Kurtz sorry Jacob Wilson or Lawrence Butler fans.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fan too, but you know, that's how it goes.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, another name that I wanted to bring up here that's been.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, a big mover this year, I say a major breakout, if you probably pick the breakout of the year, this is probably the guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Stowers of the Marlins, I've seen was a long time Orioles prospect released for a few years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't able to sort of crack their lineup, though, of course, now we'd probably be their cleanup pitter.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's had a phenomenal year all star year, you know, if you pick them up off your waver wire or, you know, trade it for him or draft them in a throwback draft or something and dynasty.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably feeling pretty, pretty good regardless of how deep or show the league is.

[SPEAKER_01]: How much is Kyle Stower's moved up?

[SPEAKER_01]: And I would imagine from like March or February to now, he has to be amongst the biggest movers.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we didn't even have a ranked as of May, seventh, and then he debuted.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then in last update, he was three, sixty-nine, and now he's in the top two hundred.

[SPEAKER_00]: I track, I take steamer, I take oopsie, I take my own projections, and then I kind of try to

[SPEAKER_00]: grade them out every month.

[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of take a snapshot and and see how the peaks look that helps inform some of the the projections and evaluations and then I do it like a three year window as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so like an April his peak WRC plus projection was ninety seven with twenty two homeruns in May it crept up to ninety nine.

[SPEAKER_00]: June, ninety nine, July, one, two, and now as of August, first it's one, four teams.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's improved his peak WRC plus by over fifteen percent.

[SPEAKER_00]: His home rent total is projected to be around twenty five.

[SPEAKER_00]: His OVP went up from three hundred to three twenty five.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's really improved.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's talks around the trade deadline to how like the mountains are kind of building around Calst hours.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, kind of made hasty Sanchez, expendable.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's not the main reason he's expendable, but like they they're happy with Augustine Ramirez, like Kyle Stowers or pitching South's very good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and you just every week, you see some game winning highlight or you two homerons or, you know,

[SPEAKER_00]: Blue say for the opposing reliever, et cetera, it's always kind of coming up in big in big situations.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I have him in the top two hundred.

[SPEAKER_00]: That might even be low.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because he isn't that old and, you know, he's really showing the power right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Kyle Star was a huge member.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think, you know, obviously that the

[SPEAKER_01]: The greatest part, but at the same time, he showed such power and skills that almost doesn't totally matter.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get crazy on him and drafts next year or in terms of a trade target.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I do sort of value him, kind of a long lines of what he said, I think it makes a lot of sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's obviously a big mover just sort of year over year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move over to his teammate, Augustine Ramirez.

[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me a little bit about him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always skeptical of catchers year over year, just for propensity, for injury, with receiving and just playing the position of catchers, you're consistently going to get beat up a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me a little bit about how you view him.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we liked him coming in to the year.

[SPEAKER_00]: He had like a twenty twenty season.

[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't really think that the twenty stolen bases were going to carry over as a catcher.

[SPEAKER_00]: been crushing in and running with it since he came up.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has qualified for catcher for next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's got forty over forty games to catcher.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the key for me is he's playing also over forty games at DH.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they're trying to keep his bat in the lineup, kind of resting him.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's keeping the catcher eligibility.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like a William Contrera situation where you're going to get far more played appearances.

[SPEAKER_00]: You'd expect far more played appearances on the season than other catchers like

[SPEAKER_00]: Name a catcher, JT Realme, you know, you're gonna have more plate appearances type of thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's already at three hundred seventy five, two thirds of the way through the season.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like a six hundred plate appearance pace.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, he has seventeen homeruns as catcher.

[SPEAKER_00]: One of one WRC plus.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, just kind of project that out.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's twenty four homeruns as a catcher.

[SPEAKER_00]: seventy five RBI is very, very valuable.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's young.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's still learning the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's twenty three.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, a lot of

[SPEAKER_00]: career ahead of him.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're having him up high in the lineup.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's in the middle of the lineup.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't expect him to be knocked out of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: The marlins don't have too many sluggers, too many guys who are like run producers.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I expect that to last for a long time.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you just get a catcher, a young catcher, eligible player who's going to get a lot of played appearances home runs.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to steal bases.

[SPEAKER_00]: He may steal double digits.

[SPEAKER_00]: He stole, I think, two bases today or yesterday.

[SPEAKER_00]: have been a couple of D.C., so I've been kind of following.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just a young guy who's producing a kind of across the board and you don't really see it the wheels falling off, he's in the middle of the order, he's going to get the plate appearances.

[SPEAKER_00]: The batting average can come up, but you know, it's strike out rates only twenty percent, so you know, it's probably a babble thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I expect him to be at least the average on batting average.

[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, just kind of improving from now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So being so young, his prime's ahead of him, and he rises into like the top one, fifty.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, another guy here that I wanted to talk about.

[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of sort of young and interesting, and I, I feel like because he has control and it's a really good situation, uh, in part for sort of his swing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Haysu Sanchez.

[SPEAKER_01]: How is he being handled now that he is and sort of a better offensive environment and situation?

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, a left handed bat, so it's not like he said in the bottom of the Crawford box, but he interests me a lot in Dynast, he kind of going forward as a central target.

[SPEAKER_01]: So how is he sort of moving within the list?

[SPEAKER_00]: I moved him up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think better, like you said, better part context, better team context.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's always kind of been underrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's always had good projections.

[SPEAKER_00]: His batting average doesn't hurt.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when you get kind of into the, I don't know the rounds, but like, when you're looking for a third or fourth outfielder, he always pops up on my draft projections as being a guy to get.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I always have him, like, the tailor wards.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys kind of are the ones that I always hang around, Lorda Scoreal.

[SPEAKER_00]: The problem with him had been he's kind of a platoon, a strong side platoon.

[SPEAKER_00]: But he was getting sublifty at bats.

[SPEAKER_00]: He stole sixteen last year.

[SPEAKER_00]: He stole a nine this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of stealing more than you expect.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not like a twenty to twenty five-hundred bat with like three to five stolen bases.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like maybe ten to fifteen stolen bases or more.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that obviously adds his value.

[SPEAKER_00]: His WRC plus has been above league average.

[SPEAKER_00]: For a while, he's only twenty seven now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's kind of in his prime for being productive and it's I still feel he's kind of underrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I boosted him up a bit just because of the league and park context has the team and park context has improved a bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when your dawn comes back, if he comes back this year, I'm not sure what the outfield situation is going to look like for the Astros, but I still like Jesus Sanchez.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'd run out to try to grab him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is still the platoon bat, the label is going to be on him and I don't think he's going to be playing full-time full-time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you just gotta keep that in mind, but, you know, like Matt Walner or Carrie Carpenter, these guys are strong side platoons, but extremely productive on that strong side.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're all valuable.

[SPEAKER_00]: They are probably all underrated in Dynastie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Those are good guys to have.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of your last outfielders.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, along those lines, sort of, how are you feeling about Ryan or her?

[SPEAKER_01]: And who's Newling spot in San Diego?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ryan or her and is another guy who's been super underrated and having a great season.

[SPEAKER_00]: He also has the dual eligibility and field and first base.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was always for me, like what's gonna happen when Ryan Mountcastle's back is, oh, hern really gonna be the guy who's like hitting clean up on the Orioles and he just has maintained his his his his performance for for so long.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I started boosting him up boosting him up all kind of as the weeks lead up the trade deadline.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then when the Padres paid a lot of prospect capital for oh hern it was like it all looked great.

[SPEAKER_00]: The the Padres are gonna

[SPEAKER_00]: kind of like extremely strong line up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's not really playing.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not really getting the full time of bats.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think depth charts is kind of pulled back.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's played appearance projections.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the guy in the middle line of any more because the polygars have so many good hitters.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he kind of has stayed flat, which I think is actually not bad because

[SPEAKER_00]: His performance is very good, but he is in his thirties.

[SPEAKER_00]: He plays first base, not very well, plays out field, not very well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like the wheels could fall off quickly.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's always kind of felt precarious.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was the performance has been undeniable.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to respect that, you have to boost him up accordingly.

[SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of long-term value, it's maybe he's not the greatest investment.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I try to kind of split the difference there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he will be valuable.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably underrated, but like don't pay for him as if he's, you know, a twenty five to thirty home run, uh, that who has first base out of field, uh, for a while, because he's probably not going to maintain that.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is sort of off the cuff a little bit down.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, his teammate, Ramon, Laryano.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where is he out on the list?

[SPEAKER_01]: Is he on the list at all?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he is.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, I feel his, he's not of a less.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not on the top five hundred.

[SPEAKER_00]: His projections for the rest of season have been good.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's played quite well.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've always liked Laurie.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I liked him when he was on the athletics.

[SPEAKER_00]: I felt that he was good defensively at, you know, a couple of big players with his arm, so he had value there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I always liked the kind of the power speed blend.

[SPEAKER_00]: When he was getting the kind of the full time it bats with the Orioles and performing.

[SPEAKER_00]: It also kind of felt precarious.

[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of felt to me that, you know, he's he's getting the the playing time just because the orals are so I'm not doing.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really have any other options this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like and he's just like they're running them out because he's performing.

[SPEAKER_00]: With the podgerase, they had a hole in the outfield.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to probably play full time.

[SPEAKER_00]: But again, he's in his thirties.

[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of don't feel he's going to be a guy who's, you know, twenty to twenty five home run bat.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's hitting two ninety five batting average with a three fifty six OPP.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to regress his career batting average is two fifty three and then OPP of three twenty.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think.

[SPEAKER_00]: It stands to reason he's going to regress closer to those career norms.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you're a twenty home run bad who it's two fifty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's good.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're in a good lineup, but you know, as a long-term dynasty investment, I don't know if I'd be paying kind of these guys in the four hundreds for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're if you're competing, he's definitely someone you can get cheap and I'm sure if someone who has him is rebuilding, you could get him cheap because, you know, he's a thirty-one year old.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel there.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of a fourth.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would feel there for the last couple of years and

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they'll take anything they can get.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, I actually ended up having to give up.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I got him and Louis Parallis.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I traded, um, Estabon, Mejia and another player drawn a blank on who it was, but not somebody that was a great consequence to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Might have been like, do know, somebody like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: But here, there's the one I want to throw at you with him though.

[SPEAKER_01]: Since he came up with Atlanta, or was on it, no, joined Atlanta, June, fifteenth of last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a five hundred thirty eight played a parent sample, two ninety six three forty four five twenty seven twenty six home runs.

[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that's interesting with him is I think when you do dig into the numbers the last couple of years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like the career high barrel rates like twelve percent both ends.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's hitting the ball more harder more consistently than he has ever has at any point in his career.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of always hit the ball in the air.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the ground ball rate has been down quite a bit over the last two years.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then even digging into some of the skill stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: This year his O swing dropped from thirty point four percent in twenty twenty four twenty three point six percent in twenty twenty five zone contact is up overall contact is up.

[SPEAKER_01]: O contact is up.

[SPEAKER_01]: going strike rate as a lowest of his career or just about eleven points.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, excuse me, not a lowest of his career, but the lowest since the pandemic, which was eight point nine that one year was very low in a full season, eleven point seven, which is down from fifteen point three last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: So chasing less hitting the ball harder, the angles have always been really good hitting the ball more often in the zone out of the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Dylan, I'm just saying I think the Ramon Laryano might have like a sneaky two year window that like if he's still kind of decent next year and the year after, you know, but like your fourth or fifth outfielder and I'm dying to sleep, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think like even like sixteen teams he might have some relevancy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's been good.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to the podries too, so.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely, definitely belongs this year for sure, belongs.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that that probably means the next year as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: If he was twenty four years old and you're, you're reading me these stats, I'd be like, yeah, he's, he's done something.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's changed his approach.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's changed.

[SPEAKER_01]: These are the guys because I think you got to think about dynasty in three year window.

[SPEAKER_01]: These are the kind of guys that you as you said like or like I showed you can acquire for players who either very far off, you know, like for a lottery ticket or a draft pick or you know, whatever it might be so like.

[SPEAKER_01]: I sort of feel like that's the kind of guy that's maybe worth going out and grabbing because he's going to get another opportunity last next year.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's had a tremendous season, as you said, he's got valuable sides of the ball.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it wouldn't shock me if you, you know, as a couple of good years at thirty one, thirty two, thirty three and rides off from the sunset, you know, but I'll allow like David Paralter or something, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: very, very manageable, easy player to own.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's take a quick break here, Dylan.

[SPEAKER_01]: We come back.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna jump through a couple more names, what do you say?

[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and we are back.

[SPEAKER_01]: We are talking dynasty list.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's jump into, I mean, I would say arguably is having the best catcher season.

[SPEAKER_01]: of this century so far in Cal Raleigh.

[SPEAKER_01]: How high do we rank him right now?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I look at the Razzball player rate or this morning.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's third, I believe, in overall value, this season behind maybe Judge No.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tony, and then he's number three.

[SPEAKER_01]: The other catcher seasons that are in the top ten.

[SPEAKER_01]: One was at the leave, twenty twenty one Salvador Perez, where you hit like forty eight homers, twenty one, I think it was twenty one.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other was two thousand and nine with Joe Maurer.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I didn't I didn't find any from two thousand and one before so or after.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then check anything before two thousand one.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's very rare that you get this kind of catcher season.

[SPEAKER_01]: So.

[SPEAKER_01]: How do you rank that?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think obviously he's still young enough, he's showing enough value.

[SPEAKER_01]: I certainly think it's repeatable from like being a top, thirty player overall at the end of the season in twenty, twenty, six.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the season is necessarily repeatable.

[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you manage this?

[SPEAKER_01]: Because you might have gotten the best you're going to get.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that's the challenge.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was fifty-fourth last month.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have him right now, thirty-sixth, kind of like Peter Lanzo, jazz, chisnsack wheel area.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I can see an argument that it should be much higher.

[SPEAKER_00]: I see an argument that should be lower.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think lead contacts is definitely going to have to play a role here.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a one catcher league and a fifteen team.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be as valuable as two catcher.

[SPEAKER_00]: As huge as a season has been.

[SPEAKER_00]: His ex batting average is expected batting average is two thirty eight.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's hitting two forty nine.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not helping you in batting average.

[SPEAKER_00]: He never has.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's hit two twenty and two thirty two the years before.

[SPEAKER_00]: His OBPs in previous years are like just over three hundred as well this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's three fifty six.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what do I expect moving forward?

[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him to be you know thirty plus bombs.

[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him to be the kind of like Kyle Schwarber.

[SPEAKER_00]: at catcher, which is extremely valuable.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just it's hard to kind of like have him be the cornerstone to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just my perception of how I frame him to be like the cornerstone of your roster or your building around Cal Raleigh.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he gets over five hundred plate appearances.

[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, six hundred plate appearances.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's pretty durable.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but you get banged up.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's in his late twenties.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just worried about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, there's going to be a regression, but there's obviously undeniable production.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking about this year, just kind of in the, uh, sort of the NFBC leagues that like Cal Raleigh is obviously, like a league, unquote league winner for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not really guys, a guy that the most of the like sharks or the high profile.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, NFBC players would draft because of the batting average, like you take them, but you're not, you're not taking them early.

[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't have this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, judges not someone who you're just going to decide to pick.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to kind of like default pick him, who's another league winner in judge right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, you kind of want to build your speed base.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's kind of the conventional wisdom is you want like your LDL cruises or your husband Ramirez or someone who's going to get stolen base is Corbyn Carroll to to build that stolen base.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, base.

[SPEAKER_00]: And but it's like the Cal Rally, the Aaron judge, like these are the guys who are actually kind of league winners right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I went off on a tangent here just seems like an odd year for for NFBC and kind of the guys you get expecting your the top aren't really there.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not like dominating or kind of in the middle of the pack as they would be because they're in a very strong NFBC managers, but it's kind of been an upside down year for how you would draft and build your team.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that changes anything for future years or if this is just an odd year and it was just kind of regressed back and people will over over correct for next year, but it was just something I noticed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Complete tangent.

[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate your your tangents and the insight that you can provide from that world.

[SPEAKER_01]: So because it kind of moves the needle on ADP.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think across.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he's he's probably going to be sorry.

[SPEAKER_00]: They dropped again.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably going to be a first round pick in like a fee maintains if he finishes with fifty home runs.

[SPEAKER_00]: As a catcher, which she's only eight away and he's got two months to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems pretty likely he will.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has twelve stolen bases right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to guy guys, fifty homeruns and like ten to fifteen stolen bases at catcher in a two catcher league in a NFBC main event like that is first round value for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Will he be taken the first round?

[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he will be.

[SPEAKER_00]: He'll probably start getting pushed back to the back of the first and then maybe into the like early second and he'll be like the turn at the wheel in the first and second.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, this is just what I kind of feel right now with a kind of digging in, but like you're gonna have Cal Rowling being taken in the first round in many, many, many leaks next year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it totally makes sense and is totally defensible.

[SPEAKER_00]: It seems it's hard to kind of, to, to fathom.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think, you know, we saw it in twenty ten.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been playing fantasy baseball that long with Joe Mower where like, and I think it was probably less justifiable, even though he was a batting champion on all that.

[SPEAKER_01]: We knew there was such an outlier where, you know, rally can hit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Forty home runs again next year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it doesn't hit fifty right, but he could hit forty one.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like, as you said, it's sort of like Schworber there.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a chance for a home run title every season of rally.

[SPEAKER_01]: So good take away on that one.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to move on to another one here and striking once again, a close to home.

[SPEAKER_01]: We open the show with some, some Jay Stots.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're winding down the show now with some Jay Stots.

[SPEAKER_01]: What are your expectations for Shane Eber?

[SPEAKER_01]: isn't quite back yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he is the listed starter.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here on Worcester for the Buffalo license on Saturday against one Richard Fitz, Major League match up there, the park and polar.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you thoughts there in terms of paper?

[SPEAKER_01]: I believe this is probably his last rehab start.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I have them stashed in my auction championship team with Brian Slack and Jordan Rosenblum.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been following it very closely.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Bieber news.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, I think he's going to do two more rehab stint starts going to John Schneider.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I anticipate him to do well.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was sitting ninety three point nine or something like that on the fastball, which is not done since twenty twenty.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at his fastball averages here on fan graphs.

[SPEAKER_00]: In twenty eighteen it was ninety three point two twenty nineteen ninety three point two twenty twenty twenty what up to ninety four point three and then since then ninety two nine ninety one five ninety one six ninety two five so he hasn't really been above ninety three for four years he was sitting ninety three he had a whole bunch above ninety four in that rehab start

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was seventy pitches, seventy five pitches.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's sustaining it, he's holding it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, back when Bieber was so young and you know, five war pitcher and all that, there was a lot of talk of how.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because he has such incredible command.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, he doesn't need the velocity, but there's a huge threshold where like when he's above.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was ninety three and a half he's like lights out but when he's below it's like he has to be he he he he gets hit around and so him having the velocity is gonna put visions of him being backing into prime beaver again um that's what I'm hoping the j's gave up quite a bit for him um

[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel that they're pretty confident that he's healthy and he'll be someone who can produce for them in playoff and a deep playoff run.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I have high expectations for him.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was just moved today in a dinosaur league of mine.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fifteen team, dinosaur league, but kind of basically NFBC main event.

[SPEAKER_00]: format.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was moved for Bryce Miller and Kobe Mayo.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the person acquiring Bieber obviously, that person's competing and they want someone who is likely to compete this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's probably more likely than Bryce Miller.

[SPEAKER_00]: even though Bryce Miller's also in rehab and rehab starts in throwing ninety eight.

[SPEAKER_00]: He looks to be back, but I think, you know, Bieber could be he's still he's still only thirty years old.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like he's at the end of his career.

[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like it seems like he's kind of bouncing back and he's got some years ahead of him.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I'm looking forward to Bieber pitching for the Jays for many reasons.

[SPEAKER_00]: If it's good for the game, I haven't said that in a long time, Jeff.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's good for the game to have Shane Bieber on the mountain and major league game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Good for the game, Dylan White.

[SPEAKER_01]: Makes it long.

[SPEAKER_01]: a way to return the fans have been clamoring.

[SPEAKER_01]: So what I'm going to ask you, we're going to move on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you feel good at the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

[SPEAKER_01]: About K-Brion Hayes moving into a good hitters park in a lineup where there's actual professional major league average quality hitters or better sometimes.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then we do a cruisest case.

[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about K-Brion Hayes moving on over to the reds?

[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see you.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's great for the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it's a better park.

[SPEAKER_00]: One of the better parks hit home runs.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that kind of automatically boosts him, but I think to hit home runs, you have to get your launch angles up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And as you know, the much maligned Cabrera and Hayes launch angles still kind of exist.

[SPEAKER_00]: So park context moves up.

[SPEAKER_00]: A batting context he has he's hit night in his last five games since going to the red.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's not the greatest spot in the batting lineup.

[SPEAKER_00]: If he starts hitting obviously that'll move up.

[SPEAKER_00]: He yeah, it's kind of a neutral move.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've always like a Brian Hayes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm kind of

[SPEAKER_00]: behold into the projections which have always kind of liked and he's always young and it's always like they think he's always underproduced.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of that is the launch angle stuff and it's not being accounted for as as well as it should in the projections, but I've always kind of liked him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always

[SPEAKER_00]: Think he's, you know, a fifteen to twenty home run bat with ten to fifteen stolen bases and a third base.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good good spot.

[SPEAKER_00]: A good projection production to have his batting average hasn't quote unquote never heard you.

[SPEAKER_00]: He just has never really realized that production.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's a hard one.

[SPEAKER_00]: He he I had him debuting on the five hundred he started off at the five hundred for us again with my

[SPEAKER_00]: my wish casting and he kind of gradually fell out this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then now back on the reds, I kind of like, maybe he should be back up again.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if he's hitting ninth, maybe he's not.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if he appears in the, in the upcoming update, it'll be around, you know, five hundred, four seventy five to five hundred.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he has to, he has to prove it to me, Jeff, before I move him up higher.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's a direct call to action for Brian Hayes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Prove it to Dylan White.

[SPEAKER_01]: prove it that you're good for the game and Dylan will in turn drop a good for the game, Jeff.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's good for the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this has been another episode of Dylan of the baseball, America fantasy podcast, which is always quite frankly good for the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want any final word for the people?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I think I've said I think my good for the game phrase is just kind of summed it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.