00:01.562 --> 00:02.983 [SPEAKER_04]: It's hot sheet, happening now.

00:03.123 --> 00:06.405 [SPEAKER_04]: Scott Brown along with Facebook, America's Ben Badler and Jeff Ponce.

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00:33.568 --> 00:47.279 [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously top one hundred press prospect rankings update is here Ben Badler give us the big picture look at what happened and then we'll dive into some details.

00:48.901 --> 00:53.024 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah now that the draft is over the trade deadline is behind us.

00:53.905 --> 01:08.403 [SPEAKER_01]: We take a little bit more time to just really digest everything all the information that we're gathering from all of our calls all of our looks at these players throughout the year and just lining up players reassessing where we have guys.

01:09.173 --> 01:26.418 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of guy stayed in in the same place because it's got a constant update process that we have throughout the year, but you know, sometimes just zoom out a little bit and realize, all right, actually, there's there's some guys who need to move up quite a bit on this list that we may be having accounted for or maybe a little bit later to react on.

01:26.438 --> 01:34.360 [SPEAKER_01]: So we ended up moving a lot of guys up significantly and some guys on the same token fell down or out of the list entirely.

01:36.492 --> 01:56.509 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think when you sort of look at the dynamics of how the list is put together and how frequently we update this as well as the top thirties, I think the cause of how frequently we update, necessarily have to get overly aggressive all the time and allow players to kind of incrementally move up.

01:56.609 --> 02:02.474 [SPEAKER_03]: And they end up where they probably should when things are all set and done.

02:03.235 --> 02:08.778 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think overall there were definitely some hot names that moved up quite a bit.

02:09.179 --> 02:14.182 [SPEAKER_03]: The top of the list, JJ weather hauled kind of halts into that top five area.

02:14.842 --> 02:24.468 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I think everything that we've seen from weather haul this year, when compared to some of those other young short stops, the Leo de Vries that Hazus modays,

02:24.928 --> 02:26.269 [SPEAKER_03]: the Sebastian Walcott.

02:27.550 --> 02:30.452 [SPEAKER_03]: He kind of maybe gets undersold a little bit when it comes to his tools.

02:30.552 --> 02:32.374 [SPEAKER_03]: He is a very good infielder.

02:32.454 --> 02:33.335 [SPEAKER_03]: He can run.

02:34.335 --> 02:39.880 [SPEAKER_03]: We know how good the hit tools been, you know, through a course of his career amateur and professional.

02:40.420 --> 02:50.648 [SPEAKER_03]: And now that he's in AAA and I think really at some point in this year took a big step forward in terms of the power swimming and we're seeing him hit for a little more power, maybe hunt a little more barrels than what

02:50.927 --> 02:54.128 [SPEAKER_03]: what we had seen early in his pro career or even at West Virginia.

02:54.148 --> 02:56.628 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a really well-rounded prospect.

02:56.668 --> 02:57.829 [SPEAKER_03]: The other one is Walker Jenkins.

02:57.869 --> 03:10.552 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a matter of Jenkins being on the field and being healthy consistently, which has just not been the case with Jenkins, really, of any of the twin's top prospects or players on the good players on here.

03:10.952 --> 03:12.793 [SPEAKER_03]: Major League roster over the last couple of years.

03:13.233 --> 03:17.975 [SPEAKER_03]: Now that he's healthy, he's playing every day, we're seeing that power start to show up a little bit.

03:18.595 --> 03:26.838 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that gave us the confidence to kind of move him back up after having him take a, not a big step, but a slight step down for where he had been.

03:28.359 --> 03:33.141 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with JJ weatherhold, there's just not many holes at the plate with him.

03:33.201 --> 03:34.942 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's a polished approach.

03:34.982 --> 03:36.662 [SPEAKER_01]: He makes good swing decisions.

03:37.243 --> 03:39.003 [SPEAKER_01]: He's walking more than he's striking out.

03:39.063 --> 03:40.504 [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's an efficient swing.

03:41.060 --> 03:42.141 [SPEAKER_01]: with good play coverage.

03:42.161 --> 03:45.644 [SPEAKER_01]: You could see from that video we had on screen before right here.

03:45.664 --> 03:47.806 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he just stays behind the ball so well.

03:47.846 --> 03:49.727 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's able to drive it in the air.

03:49.747 --> 03:50.348 [SPEAKER_01]: It all fields.

03:50.428 --> 03:52.650 [SPEAKER_01]: And like Jeff said, it's quality contact.

03:52.810 --> 03:56.854 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a twenty twenty five home run guy with high OBPs.

03:57.474 --> 04:00.977 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's a guy who's going to need a whole lot of time in AAA.

04:01.017 --> 04:07.743 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's someone who looks like he should be a cornerstone piece at the top or the middle of the Cardinals lineup once he's ready.

04:08.281 --> 04:15.066 [SPEAKER_01]: And with with Walker Jenkins, I think he can make a case for him being a top five prospect in baseball by the end of the season.

04:15.086 --> 04:15.906 [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's strong.

04:15.967 --> 04:16.667 [SPEAKER_01]: He's athletic.

04:16.707 --> 04:18.348 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a great left handed swing.

04:18.769 --> 04:20.270 [SPEAKER_01]: He controls the strike zone.

04:20.630 --> 04:25.513 [SPEAKER_01]: He's crushing double a right now as a twenty year old and he does have big power.

04:25.553 --> 04:29.296 [SPEAKER_01]: He's had these a bunch of different lower body injuries, including this year that

04:30.014 --> 04:34.916 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's played through or when he's come back, he just didn't look like he was fully healthy.

04:35.536 --> 04:43.559 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can see that's affected him with terms of the fully preventing him from being able to show the power that he does have.

04:43.819 --> 04:47.400 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you see Walker Jenkins at full strength, this guy's an animal.

04:47.460 --> 04:48.801 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's big power in there.

04:49.261 --> 04:50.801 [SPEAKER_01]: You look at him over the last month.

04:50.841 --> 04:52.462 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just been crushing the ball.

04:53.242 --> 04:55.443 [SPEAKER_01]: The injury track record is a legitimate

04:56.098 --> 04:59.522 [SPEAKER_01]: concerned with him, but I see a high on base guy.

04:59.562 --> 05:03.847 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a chance to be a twenty five thirty plus home run hitter at his peak.

05:05.924 --> 05:06.584 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

05:06.604 --> 05:16.030 [SPEAKER_03]: And another name I wanted to throw out there as well and one that I think we both have a decent track record for many years prior to him being even a professional and Thomas White.

05:16.390 --> 05:22.914 [SPEAKER_03]: You probably have as much track record on Thomas White as anybody who is in the White Household there, up in the North Shore.

05:23.714 --> 05:25.756 [SPEAKER_03]: He's taken a massive step forward this year.

05:26.156 --> 05:32.920 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think we saw that last year, but he's taken the necessary steps at this point to kind of be in that conversation for

05:33.581 --> 05:48.359 [SPEAKER_03]: one of the best pitching prospects and the miners arguably the best lefty in the miners and he's been phenomenal over his first seven starts at AA and you know I'm a hot sheet again this week it feels like every week he sort of

05:48.819 --> 05:49.439 [SPEAKER_03]: coming in there.

05:49.459 --> 05:56.481 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I think the arsenal too and you can probably speak to this some Ben has expanded a lot since high school.

05:56.501 --> 05:58.781 [SPEAKER_03]: It was more of like a traditional curve ball.

05:58.841 --> 05:59.901 [SPEAKER_03]: Now it's more of a slider.

05:59.941 --> 06:02.062 [SPEAKER_03]: We still throws a curve ball variation.

06:02.102 --> 06:03.682 [SPEAKER_03]: The change up has improved as well.

06:04.042 --> 06:10.864 [SPEAKER_03]: And he just keeps adding velocity and, you know, the size, the strength, all that stuff, the projection has already started to hit.

06:10.944 --> 06:16.305 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know if you've any thoughts on white because I know you're one of, you know, the biggest advocates for white inside of our top and

06:18.442 --> 06:26.783 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that, you know, Jacob is yourowski and Chase Burns are still prospect eligible, but they're in the major leagues right now.

06:27.364 --> 06:33.285 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can make a case that Thomas White is the best pitching prospect in the minor leagues.

06:33.325 --> 06:41.426 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Bob and Chandler, with the player, it's a really strong case to Andrew Painter with the Phillies as a head of white on our list.

06:41.626 --> 06:44.406 [SPEAKER_01]: I like White more than Painter.

06:44.886 --> 06:46.127 [SPEAKER_01]: He's two years younger.

06:46.347 --> 06:47.407 [SPEAKER_01]: He has no TJ.

06:48.333 --> 06:50.494 [SPEAKER_01]: on his medical record, the way painer has.

06:51.014 --> 06:52.654 [SPEAKER_01]: He's only one level behind him.

06:52.974 --> 06:54.315 [SPEAKER_01]: He strikes out more guys.

06:55.255 --> 06:57.295 [SPEAKER_01]: I think his stuff is just as good if not better.

06:57.315 --> 07:00.656 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, six, five, lefty, easy delivery.

07:01.136 --> 07:04.337 [SPEAKER_01]: Fastballs up to ninety nine miles an hour and he's sitting in the mid nineties.

07:05.177 --> 07:06.778 [SPEAKER_01]: The slider and the change of your time.

07:07.018 --> 07:16.740 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, conservatively, I think those are both plus pitches and you could argue them to be seventies or future seventies pitches on the twenty eighties scouting scale.

07:17.508 --> 07:20.630 [SPEAKER_01]: He's dominating AA right now as a twenty year old.

07:20.891 --> 07:28.196 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the one key area with Thomas White that you would want to see him take a step forward with is a fastball command.

07:28.436 --> 07:37.443 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need to be precise with it to have success, but you know, he's a young six foot five pitcher with a longer arm action.

07:37.483 --> 07:41.186 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's still learning to repeat his release point consistently.

07:41.206 --> 07:44.068 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's going to come.

07:44.572 --> 07:51.038 [SPEAKER_01]: And if it does, everything is in place there for him to be a number two, maybe even potentially a number one starter.

07:52.800 --> 07:59.826 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's bring in a fan question, AJ, Elmer Rodriguez Cruz, another big arm having big results for the Yankees.

07:59.866 --> 08:03.089 [SPEAKER_04]: How close to each other do you think those top five Yankees arms are?

08:03.609 --> 08:08.494 [SPEAKER_04]: And what would it take for them to make the top one hundred who wants to take this one?

08:10.000 --> 08:12.481 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I could jump on this one.

08:12.942 --> 08:14.022 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really close.

08:14.042 --> 08:25.829 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we always talk about when we're on these shows after the top one hundred, there's this grouping and some years, it maybe starts at sixty other years, maybe it's more like seventy five, eighty.

08:26.349 --> 08:33.133 [SPEAKER_03]: But there's that group from like seventy five will call it all the way to one fifty one sixty that it's really really close.

08:33.193 --> 08:37.215 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think depending on how you line things up, you could get there.

08:37.688 --> 08:45.931 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he just continues to perform, you know, I think early in the season because of how Navar is, you know, performs for the Red Sox.

08:47.232 --> 08:49.573 [SPEAKER_03]: There was a lot of sort of hand-ringing about that trade.

08:50.033 --> 08:52.554 [SPEAKER_03]: I think in a few years that might be the opposite direction.

08:53.254 --> 08:54.495 [SPEAKER_03]: Rodriguez Cruz is really good.

08:54.996 --> 08:59.499 [SPEAKER_03]: The fastball, you know, as velocity, he commands it really well.

08:59.539 --> 09:01.421 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't have crazy swing and messed stuff.

09:01.881 --> 09:03.562 [SPEAKER_03]: He uses the secondaries for that.

09:03.923 --> 09:08.526 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, had two starts this week with phenomenal, no other guy that qualified for the hot sheet.

09:08.566 --> 09:14.551 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think is legitimately every bit a top one, a hundred caliber sort of prospect.

09:14.611 --> 09:18.254 [SPEAKER_03]: But there might be a hundred and fifty of those guys technically, you know.

09:19.379 --> 09:23.621 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a good question there from AJ and let's step aside for a quick moment.

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10:38.593 --> 10:49.188 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're back, and Josh Norris from VA said in the last three weeks, I've seen two, sixteen year olds throw a hundred miles an hour, Kevin DeFranck, and striker Pence, who's an FU of Hunter Pence.

10:49.409 --> 10:53.595 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it led to a discussion on foul territory and Trevor May cooked a little bit.

10:54.500 --> 10:58.181 [SPEAKER_02]: that hunt for Velocie has always existed and of course it's going to exist.

10:58.561 --> 11:01.262 [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is we now know how to get it.

11:02.483 --> 11:14.086 [SPEAKER_02]: We not optimize guys to get the maximum Velocie and when you're sixteen years old you optimizing a sixteen year old's body doesn't make sense because it's going to be different in a month.

11:14.507 --> 11:17.868 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's I think where the where it becomes not

11:18.988 --> 11:26.195 [SPEAKER_02]: the greatest thing in the world because you're optimizing for a person who has not done growing very likely unless they're very early mature.

11:26.816 --> 11:35.564 [SPEAKER_02]: And that could completely derail the whole thing anyways to where that hundred and sixteen is now ninety one at at twenty one.

11:35.584 --> 11:40.929 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Ben Badler, your reaction to what Trevor was talking about.

11:42.662 --> 11:49.830 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think these like having a great fastball is just a great foundation to have for any picture.

11:49.850 --> 11:52.033 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you have a picture who throws that hard.

11:52.793 --> 12:08.127 [SPEAKER_01]: at a young age, absolutely like there are extra precautions that you need to take to ensure that you're being responsible with regards to workload, usage, race, recovery, just building strength throughout, you know, his entire body.

12:08.948 --> 12:15.533 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you also have a player who's just blessed with tremendous arm speed and the ability to throw extremely hard, I think that's great.

12:15.573 --> 12:19.257 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, striker Pence and Kevin DeFranck, you know, the Marlins

12:19.840 --> 12:24.903 [SPEAKER_01]: right in a picture one of their top prospects right now in the Dominican summary one of their just their top prospects overall.

12:25.983 --> 12:46.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Two of the guys who are just two of the best pictures in their age group where I think people get confused is you do have players who are these early physical mature players and velocity alone at a young age does not guarantee majorly success right especially when we're talking about players who are this young we have

12:48.707 --> 12:55.976 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we ranked at top two hundred high school prospects for for two thousand twenty six top one hundred for twenty twenty seven right now.

12:56.957 --> 13:05.247 [SPEAKER_01]: There are guys who are throwing ninety five ninety six ninety seven who are ranked outside the top one hundred players in their class.

13:07.222 --> 13:35.195 [SPEAKER_01]: guys who are throwing ninety five who are not ranked in the top two hundred for twenty twenty six because they're either max effort delivery guys they have trouble throwing strikes they lack the ability to manipulate the baseball to throw a reliable secondary pitch you know there's there's still something there with these guys but but nobody's evaluating a player strictly on velocity but the act of throwing hard itself that's a positive for

13:35.913 --> 13:42.801 [SPEAKER_01]: The player, it's just when you throw really hard, but don't have other traits that point toward future success.

13:43.582 --> 13:49.809 [SPEAKER_01]: Those lack of other factors are that are predictive of being a majorly starting pitcher.

13:50.850 --> 13:54.074 [SPEAKER_01]: Those holes in your game, that's where the issue is.

13:56.072 --> 14:07.715 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think when it comes to the conversation around velocity that we have time and time again, you can sit a hundred miles an hour and not necessarily have a good fastball.

14:08.075 --> 14:12.557 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'd ever say that you have a bad fastball if you're sitting in the upper registers.

14:13.977 --> 14:16.938 [SPEAKER_03]: But it can play down to more majorly average or below.

14:16.958 --> 14:18.498 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've seen that plenty of times.

14:18.518 --> 14:27.740 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's been guys, you know, even in the ten years ago, like a pat light or someone like that who threw a hundred miles an hour who didn't have really any majorly career.

14:27.820 --> 14:34.262 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I don't think it's a guarantee of anything and certainly at a younger age, it's scary.

14:34.942 --> 14:37.463 [SPEAKER_03]: But I also think that, you know, with the

14:38.920 --> 14:45.642 [SPEAKER_03]: advent of advanced training and it being readily available in all corners of the country.

14:45.742 --> 14:54.984 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you don't just have to go to drive line or tread or you're in Southern California with a lot of those sort of early adopters in terms of pitching training.

14:56.245 --> 14:58.925 [SPEAKER_03]: Those guys are all over the map and there is multiples.

14:59.105 --> 15:03.247 [SPEAKER_03]: So and guys are training for sports way earlier than they ever were before.

15:03.267 --> 15:06.027 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're more focused on nutrition.

15:06.047 --> 15:08.408 [SPEAKER_03]: We know more about training the body than we did.

15:08.928 --> 15:10.349 [SPEAKER_03]: twenty thirty years ago.

15:10.870 --> 15:20.138 [SPEAKER_03]: So I just I think it's hard to have full context on this even if you know you were a high level player or you know have coach players.

15:20.278 --> 15:29.606 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just in the last five to six years things have exploded and seeing a hundred mile per hour high school arms is just very common now.

15:30.727 --> 15:33.610 [SPEAKER_03]: It's still special in the sense that it's still going to get headlines.

15:34.050 --> 15:44.281 [SPEAKER_03]: If you put it on to social media, it's still going to get a lot more probably likes, retweets everything than a really well executed, ninety four mile per hour fastball, right?

15:45.562 --> 15:46.703 [SPEAKER_03]: Or a great breaking ball.

15:46.783 --> 15:53.350 [SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's all just in terms of something that visually is sort of shocking and especially seeing a guy that's

15:53.390 --> 16:00.812 [SPEAKER_03]: whatever common office freshman year in high school, whatever it might be, still two years away from the draft just sitting in that range is still so unusual.

16:00.912 --> 16:10.234 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's one of those things where I don't really know how to say that it's bad per se because I think it's just the nature of the time and the space that we're in right now.

16:10.894 --> 16:12.915 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a lot of factors leading to it.

16:13.555 --> 16:35.568 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that guys in nineteen ninety eight ninety nine two thousand when I were in high school were holding back from throwing a hundred miles an hour if they possibly could know I mean hitting ninety three ninety four back then was considered like getting a hundred now so I think time changes people grow people's advance the game advances and this is just a stage wrap

16:36.923 --> 16:39.305 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that was why I didn't throw a hundred in high school.

16:39.325 --> 16:42.468 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just kind of happy.

16:42.848 --> 16:43.108 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

16:43.128 --> 16:55.098 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, the guys who are throwing, you know, ninety, eight, ninety, nine, ninety, seven miles an hour to young age are the ones that are going to get more a lot of attention or a lot of recognition at a young age.

16:55.139 --> 17:02.224 [SPEAKER_01]: And look, like you do have early physical mature guys who are just bigger and stronger than their peers at a young age.

17:02.285 --> 17:06.148 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, people who are experienced evaluating players in a given age group

17:06.890 --> 17:13.815 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they should have a pretty good gauge of who those guys are and who's likely to get passed by as their peers catch up to them physically.

17:13.935 --> 17:29.186 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's also this fallacy that, you know, the argument is, all right, supposedly young pictures who throw extremely hard say a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a

17:36.463 --> 17:42.929 [SPEAKER_01]: But that reasoning really ignores a pretty fundamental truth about baseball.

17:43.429 --> 17:53.377 [SPEAKER_01]: As much as I love prospects, as much as I love pitching prospects, the track are good of all pitchers who are sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old is poor.

17:54.198 --> 18:04.667 [SPEAKER_01]: Most pitchers that age don't end up pitching in the major leagues or sustaining a career of any significant length where they throw ninety seven or eighty seven.

18:05.352 --> 18:06.452 [SPEAKER_01]: at sixteen years old.

18:06.492 --> 18:18.915 [SPEAKER_01]: The industry realizes that now we see very few high school pictures who get drafted in the first round and internationally where you know the teams are signing sixteen year old kids.

18:19.695 --> 18:21.335 [SPEAKER_01]: The top fifty bonuses every year.

18:22.135 --> 18:24.416 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one or two of them are pictures.

18:24.476 --> 18:29.336 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really rare to see a sixteen seventeen year old picture signing for a million dollars.

18:29.417 --> 18:31.417 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, people remember

18:32.699 --> 18:47.723 [SPEAKER_01]: the kid who threw really hard out of young age who didn't make it, but what is the success rate of say a sixteen or, you know, sixteen year old to throw ninety seven miles an hour versus sixteen year old to throw ninety miles an hour.

18:47.743 --> 18:50.443 [SPEAKER_01]: I doubt anybody really has that data.

18:50.483 --> 19:01.046 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a gazillion players now who throw ninety miles an hour at sixteen and probably ninety nine plus percent of them will never or never at will end up pitching.

19:01.465 --> 19:02.325 [SPEAKER_01]: in a major league game.

19:02.606 --> 19:13.931 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you're going to make a bet on a pitcher from one of those groups, becoming a major league pitcher, you're going to take a pitcher from the group throwing in ninety seven mile an hour.

19:13.971 --> 19:26.477 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're going to have a lot of high VLO arms who end up being flameouts, but the same is going to be the reality for every group of pitchers who who are that young.

19:28.557 --> 19:29.618 [SPEAKER_04]: Quick comment here.

19:30.322 --> 19:53.173 [SPEAKER_04]: at the finish line of this conversation uncle Ted here in the YouTube chat said sliders and sweepers rack elbows not fast balls which again can create a whole other conversation that we don't have time for right now but Brandon said it was the last long time age release started that made it through an entire career without TJ can't be that many no I remember I was tracking Corbin Burns and they just went down

19:53.856 --> 19:56.757 [SPEAKER_04]: with Tommy John Surgery this season a few months ago.

19:56.817 --> 19:59.237 [SPEAKER_04]: There's probably a few names, but there are not many.

19:59.397 --> 19:59.937 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a good call.

19:59.957 --> 20:03.978 [SPEAKER_04]: There are not many that have made it through with the UCL intact in the elbow.

20:04.118 --> 20:05.818 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, good conversation.

20:06.158 --> 20:06.978 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's step aside.

20:06.998 --> 20:16.240 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll go back to the prospect combo that we had at the top and we'll focus on some good signs for some meds prospects and some mariners prospects coming up.

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21:22.129 --> 21:23.070 [SPEAKER_04]: That's at the final sprint.

21:23.090 --> 21:28.993 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll try to get to two topics quick here, an absolute hall coming to the Syracuse Metz this from the Metz player dev.

21:29.674 --> 21:32.236 [SPEAKER_04]: Twitter, I think it's the official Twitter for them.

21:32.316 --> 21:38.760 [SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations to the following players on their promotions to Triple A, Carson Benj, Ryan Clifford, Jonah Tong and Jet Williams.

21:38.820 --> 21:39.560 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a good list.

21:39.880 --> 21:41.442 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a nice list of names there, Jeff.

21:43.403 --> 21:50.067 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think, you know, we went from seeing Binghamton as probably one of the most dominant teams.

21:52.032 --> 21:55.494 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, in the minor leagues this year, there's seventy one and thirty five.

21:55.534 --> 21:57.515 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a six, seventy winning percentage.

21:58.376 --> 22:03.119 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the other eastern league teams are probably pretty happy to see that core players move up.

22:03.579 --> 22:06.541 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's to a really talented Syracuse roster as well.

22:07.261 --> 22:09.622 [SPEAKER_03]: Nolan McLean is already on that team, Brandon Sprote.

22:10.023 --> 22:11.984 [SPEAKER_03]: They had Jonah Tong into that group.

22:12.604 --> 22:21.410 [SPEAKER_03]: I would argue that right now, sort of endering the last phase of the minor league season these last five or six weeks, this is the most talented rotation.

22:21.910 --> 22:29.655 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you go and you take a look at the lineup and now, you know, you have Carson Benge, you have Jet Williams, you have Ryan Clifford, et cetera.

22:30.236 --> 22:34.839 [SPEAKER_03]: This is among if not the most talented team in the minors right now.

22:35.579 --> 22:38.181 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's right there, you know, AAA wise.

22:38.321 --> 22:41.143 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's probably overtaking the Iowa Cubs who have kind of been

22:41.603 --> 22:45.945 [SPEAKER_03]: the standard since the beginning of the season because none of their guys seem to be get called up.

22:46.045 --> 22:55.950 [SPEAKER_03]: But for those in Syracuse get out to a game because you're going to probably see about seven or eight future big leaders in the field at any given time loaded loaded team.

22:56.669 --> 23:02.152 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I feel like for a team that's in a big market, not getting talked about for what they're building right now.

23:02.192 --> 23:08.115 [SPEAKER_04]: Ben, I mean, we're not going to have time to go over the Mariners and how they have, I think, eight prospects in the top one hundred, but we've gone over it a lot before.

23:08.155 --> 23:14.759 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's been well documented in the baseball America world, but what do you think about what the Met's have come in through at the upper levels of the miners now?

23:16.500 --> 23:19.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, uh, this is a really talented group.

23:19.642 --> 23:23.544 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, especially with Tong and Banja, I think both of those guys

23:24.085 --> 23:27.186 [SPEAKER_01]: can make an impact for them as soon as next year, Jonah Tongg.

23:27.566 --> 23:32.146 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just a huge high carry fastball really plays up from that high slot.

23:32.707 --> 23:35.847 [SPEAKER_01]: The change was taken a huge step forward for him this year.

23:35.867 --> 23:37.467 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm missing a lot of bats with that pitch.

23:38.228 --> 23:39.668 [SPEAKER_01]: I really like the curve ball too.

23:39.748 --> 23:41.048 [SPEAKER_01]: To me, he's a starting pitcher.

23:41.408 --> 23:44.349 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks a little bit different in terms of the mechanics.

23:44.389 --> 23:52.250 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not the biggest guy in the world, but everything about him to me is a starter and a potential number two, number three, type starter and

23:52.772 --> 24:03.261 [SPEAKER_01]: Carson Bench to another guy where it looks a little bit different and on orthodox with the swing, but he has a real knack for hitting good swing decisions and you're starting to see him coming to some power.

24:03.281 --> 24:11.188 [SPEAKER_01]: I think as he continues to learn which pitches to turn on and drive for authority, you're going to see more game power continue to get unlocked there too.

24:12.424 --> 24:13.344 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't mean it here, guys.

24:13.364 --> 24:20.828 [SPEAKER_04]: Just throw out a name for me from the group that we're talking about that you think could appear next month in the big leagues.

24:21.328 --> 24:23.429 [SPEAKER_04]: Is there one of these that you think could pop up for the Mets?

24:23.469 --> 24:26.030 [SPEAKER_04]: Any of these guys look like they could do some quick work?

24:27.071 --> 24:28.891 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's probably sprote.

24:29.452 --> 24:32.573 [SPEAKER_03]: At least from the Syracuse group, like I don't know if any of the guys promoted.

24:32.633 --> 24:37.115 [SPEAKER_03]: I think all those guys will be in AAA for the rest of the season and probably won't get a cup of coffee.

24:37.680 --> 24:39.201 [SPEAKER_03]: It's probably going to be Brandon Sprote.

24:39.281 --> 24:41.242 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that he could make starts now.

24:41.802 --> 24:44.963 [SPEAKER_03]: They've really overhauled his arsenal and sort of usage this year.

24:45.404 --> 24:47.445 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a really deep pitch mix.

24:48.825 --> 24:53.527 [SPEAKER_03]: He's starting to see a lot more success in terms of how he's using that foreseen and too seen.

24:53.888 --> 24:57.229 [SPEAKER_03]: And then blending in that whole carriage of secondaries that he has.

24:57.349 --> 25:01.651 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think he's a guy that could come up and potentially make some starts for them in September.

25:02.352 --> 25:05.113 [SPEAKER_03]: And help them out down the stretch because they're in a battle.

25:06.232 --> 25:07.333 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they are, right?

25:07.413 --> 25:18.721 [SPEAKER_04]: They suddenly look at themselves as not in cruise control mode, not in control of the division as they were a week ago and needing all of the reinforcements they can get, especially from a starting rotation perspective.

25:18.781 --> 25:20.723 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they need to figure out how to eat more innings.

25:20.983 --> 25:23.885 [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see if that can happen for the met, they'll need some fresh arms.

25:24.365 --> 25:25.706 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, thanks for watching.

25:26.046 --> 25:26.507 [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for

25:27.007 --> 25:28.048 [SPEAKER_04]: chiming in with questions.

25:28.088 --> 25:30.949 [SPEAKER_04]: We always appreciate that live here on VA hot sheet.

25:31.129 --> 25:34.330 [SPEAKER_04]: Also, for that Mariners discussion, we can get into it next week.

25:34.370 --> 25:39.452 [SPEAKER_04]: I know MSNs are really excited about how many top prospects are still on this top one hundred list.

25:39.773 --> 25:45.695 [SPEAKER_04]: Good sign to the future for a team that's that's really worrying right now at the big league level and you could see a lot more coming their way.

25:45.895 --> 25:51.438 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, thanks for checking out hot sheet on TV or online or listening wherever you get your pods.

25:51.478 --> 25:52.178 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next week.