00:00.293 --> 00:03.294 [SPEAKER_02]: Hello and welcome to Baseball America's draft podcast.

00:03.374 --> 00:06.615 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Carlos Colazzo joined as always by Peter Flarity.

00:06.975 --> 00:07.736 [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on Peter?

00:08.596 --> 00:18.700 [SPEAKER_00]: Not much is the this will kind of serve as a productive little summer wrap up type of episode the summer circuit for the most part outside of

00:19.693 --> 00:31.020 [SPEAKER_00]: PGL American is in the rear view, so it kind of feels weird to be heading into a period without baseball daily, but there's a, there's a, there's a lot to talk about from the summer.

00:31.060 --> 00:36.144 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a, it was a fun circuit, both at the collegiate level and at the, and at the prep level.

00:36.687 --> 00:40.830 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just finished up the the big summer run on my end.

00:40.890 --> 00:42.131 [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of an annual thing.

00:42.211 --> 00:47.994 [SPEAKER_02]: East Coast pro in Hoover, Alabama area code games back in in Long Beach, California.

00:48.094 --> 00:50.176 [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like I've seen a good

00:51.793 --> 01:01.461 [SPEAKER_02]: good percentage of the top high school players in the class kind of in the process now of going through all those notes getting getting some player reports written for the website.

01:02.342 --> 01:11.229 [SPEAKER_02]: The first of those notebooks should be available for you guys to read through as you're listening to this podcast if you want more insight on specific high school players.

01:12.110 --> 01:13.131 [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely check out the site.

01:13.211 --> 01:13.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Peter has been

01:15.030 --> 01:19.234 [SPEAKER_02]: You basically live at the Cape is my assumption for what happens with you, Peter.

01:19.254 --> 01:29.823 [SPEAKER_02]: So between myself seeing these big high school events and you out on the Cape, feels like we should have a pretty decent view of the twenty six class as it stands right now.

01:29.904 --> 01:35.649 [SPEAKER_02]: You also have an updated top one hundred college list for the twenty six class that dropped on the site this week.

01:35.709 --> 01:37.771 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got plenty of things to talk about.

01:37.791 --> 01:38.892 [SPEAKER_02]: Where do you want to head first today?

01:39.512 --> 01:40.933 [SPEAKER_00]: We can head really wherever you want.

01:41.634 --> 01:47.218 [SPEAKER_00]: During the summer, I do essentially just post up on the cave and go to at least a game of day.

01:47.718 --> 01:56.605 [SPEAKER_00]: And to your point, I think at this juncture being in the early half of our August, I think we have a

01:57.325 --> 01:58.506 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a pretty good hold.

02:00.207 --> 02:04.911 [SPEAKER_00]: We're a pretty good spot, I think, with the twenty six class and we've already got an updated college top hundred.

02:04.931 --> 02:07.854 [SPEAKER_00]: We've got tons of stuff on the prepside coming out.

02:09.235 --> 02:12.898 [SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely ahead of where we were at this point last year, I think.

02:12.998 --> 02:20.404 [SPEAKER_00]: So that I'm excited about, but I guess we could go in whichever direction you think would be.

02:20.784 --> 02:21.484 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious.

02:21.805 --> 02:22.145 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

02:22.325 --> 02:24.906 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll just have me spend so much time on the high school players recently.

02:24.926 --> 02:31.130 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious just to get your view of like who the standout names were on the cape for the swing towing suits class.

02:31.170 --> 02:36.813 [SPEAKER_02]: I know the talent of the cape is tricky to pin down these days because there's so many moving parts.

02:36.853 --> 02:39.054 [SPEAKER_02]: There's the pre draft cycle players.

02:39.094 --> 02:40.595 [SPEAKER_02]: There's the post draft players.

02:40.655 --> 02:44.917 [SPEAKER_02]: There's C&T that kind of pull some players away from the cape.

02:45.017 --> 02:48.819 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious if there's like a single player who had

02:50.780 --> 02:55.725 [SPEAKER_02]: sort of a Matt Shaw-esque summer on the cape, a Travis Besana, sort of summer on the cape.

02:55.765 --> 03:03.893 [SPEAKER_02]: If there's anyone like that for you or if there are any players that you just were excited about while taking in all those cape games.

03:04.593 --> 03:09.238 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think the issue with the cape and summer ball in general

03:10.840 --> 03:19.928 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, not only this year, but going forward, especially with the cape that I saw is just the amount of turnover there is across all ten teams.

03:20.349 --> 03:23.972 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there are a lot of variables now that the league has to deal with.

03:24.313 --> 03:29.477 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is across the entire summer ball landscape, but again, I can only speak to the cape.

03:30.478 --> 03:34.002 [SPEAKER_00]: But there are so many variables now and wrinkles that they have to deal with that.

03:34.808 --> 03:43.993 [SPEAKER_00]: really were non-existent, even three or four summers ago, like the introduction and the transfer portal becoming what it's been.

03:44.013 --> 04:02.084 [SPEAKER_00]: And I, the collegiate national team, and then college coaches and agents and advisors becoming seemingly more and more cautious as it pertains to innings limits for respective pitchers.

04:02.844 --> 04:08.206 [SPEAKER_00]: It just creates like almost a revolving door for the summer.

04:08.286 --> 04:15.189 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the best picture I saw on the cave and you'll be able to read this in the magazine and then tomorrow for the cave league top to it.

04:15.209 --> 04:19.291 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, today for the cave league top twenty five that Jeff Ponds and I put together.

04:20.431 --> 04:23.432 [SPEAKER_00]: The best arm I saw was Jake McCoy from South Carolina.

04:23.472 --> 04:27.753 [SPEAKER_00]: He was there for all of twelve innings across three starts.

04:27.793 --> 04:32.274 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's kind of what we're dealing with at this point.

04:32.334 --> 04:39.315 [SPEAKER_00]: And the best hitter I saw was Chris Rembert, rising soft on draft eligible sophomore at that.

04:40.515 --> 04:43.696 [SPEAKER_02]: We had Chris ranked twenty seven on our current draft list right now.

04:44.205 --> 04:44.545 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

04:45.066 --> 04:55.296 [SPEAKER_00]: And I, for what it's worth, and we had discussed this one on our initial rankings call, that's probably, at least for me, that might be a little bit on the conservative side.

04:56.317 --> 04:57.938 [SPEAKER_00]: With Chris, I was a huge fan of his.

04:57.998 --> 05:01.241 [SPEAKER_00]: I was lucky to get him a couple of times before he left for Team USA.

05:02.523 --> 05:24.162 [SPEAKER_00]: He's only in the Cape for five games and I think I definitely got the best look at it because you went two for four with two hunters turned around two fastballs at ninety four I think they left the bat at both at one oh five plus I think the second was like top spun at one oh eight and it would teams bullpen and left field

05:25.683 --> 05:32.762 [SPEAKER_00]: So I really like Chris Rember and then up really all the USA guys before they left like kind of the

05:33.707 --> 05:36.550 [SPEAKER_00]: The main dudes like Eric Becker was was good.

05:36.630 --> 05:38.012 [SPEAKER_00]: Tyler Bell was really good.

05:38.032 --> 05:39.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Ace Rees I liked a lot.

05:40.134 --> 05:45.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Ace Rees offensively is a really appealing package and a really appealing profile.

05:45.479 --> 05:48.302 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's bat and hand speed.

05:48.322 --> 05:51.986 [SPEAKER_02]: We have Ace ranked sixteen right now in our comments.

05:53.588 --> 05:54.069 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

05:54.169 --> 05:55.971 [SPEAKER_00]: The one thing with Ace is in the

05:56.651 --> 06:05.541 [SPEAKER_00]: kind of the narrative, at least part of the narrative with him in this year's cycle will probably be the lack of defensive ability.

06:05.561 --> 06:07.603 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a great athlete.

06:08.884 --> 06:10.386 [SPEAKER_00]: The actions need work at thirties.

06:10.426 --> 06:11.967 [SPEAKER_00]: Got the arms strength to handle it, but

06:12.748 --> 06:16.709 [SPEAKER_00]: they even tried to hide them out a little bit and left field in the cave and that didn't go great.

06:16.789 --> 06:23.351 [SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to fall that, but outside of those, those guys kind of the usual suspects.

06:23.411 --> 06:26.272 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny that it talk about Henry Ford again.

06:26.292 --> 06:26.372 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

06:27.532 --> 06:37.975 [SPEAKER_02]: Well before before you get into those guys, I am curious with guys like Rembert who played, you get like you said five games had twenty three played appearances with guys like Ace Reese who played

06:38.595 --> 06:40.837 [SPEAKER_02]: eight games, thirty-six played appearances.

06:41.858 --> 06:53.347 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the challenges I always feel like is it's hard to get a lot of A-B's for the high school players on the circuit and these very pitcher-oriented events where pitchers are throwing one or two innings, maybe three innings.

06:53.427 --> 07:02.134 [SPEAKER_02]: So each time a hitter comes out to bat, it's a new arm, it's just a very challenging situation for hitters to succeed in these showcase events.

07:02.234 --> 07:04.696 [SPEAKER_02]: The capes are a little different because you're playing like real actual games.

07:05.637 --> 07:25.499 [SPEAKER_02]: but like what you think is the value of the cape at this point from an evaluation standpoint because the pitching is down none of the top arms are going out there to throw so the competition is just not what it used to be the fact that it's a revolving door with all these players means your looks just are so limited in artificial like if you get a hitter who just doesn't have a great few games

07:26.300 --> 07:30.443 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel like you still see them enough to get a good read on them at this point?

07:30.503 --> 07:39.669 [SPEAKER_02]: Or do you think the cape is turning into maybe more of a showcase for kind of your second and third tier sort of prospects where you can see maybe some more of the depth of the class.

07:39.729 --> 07:46.274 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you want the top end guys, you either not seeing the arms at all, or you basically have to just follow around USA baseball.

07:47.215 --> 07:48.556 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a really good question.

07:49.997 --> 07:54.200 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that the first two to three weeks of the summer

07:55.409 --> 08:03.199 [SPEAKER_00]: like pre-USA, I think that obviously that's when the league is at its best, just hear what they realize that we just touched on.

08:04.000 --> 08:05.402 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's some value there.

08:05.422 --> 08:10.689 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also think just given the state of college baseball with

08:11.825 --> 08:13.046 [SPEAKER_00]: How hot the bats are.

08:13.406 --> 08:15.788 [SPEAKER_00]: The baseball is being like hitting titleists.

08:16.048 --> 08:18.350 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you obviously don't have that on the cave.

08:18.430 --> 08:19.711 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's swinging wood bat.

08:19.912 --> 08:20.152 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

08:20.292 --> 08:22.774 [SPEAKER_00]: The baseball's are for lack of a better word.

08:22.854 --> 08:23.535 [SPEAKER_00]: They're terrible.

08:23.575 --> 08:24.776 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like hitting tomatoes.

08:25.096 --> 08:31.801 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like it is pretty stacked against the hitters, even though that you're not going to see the

08:32.662 --> 08:34.743 [SPEAKER_00]: Premier arms that you probably would want to.

08:34.783 --> 08:39.085 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there are arms that stand out every summer in this same was the case this year.

08:39.145 --> 08:45.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Like guys kind of made a name for themselves and pitched them, pitched themselves into a pretty good position heading into the fall.

08:45.728 --> 08:52.130 [SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, like you're not seeing like the Liam Peterson's, the Jackson floor is of the world.

08:52.270 --> 08:57.813 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's just seeing how guys handle would bat, seeing how they do.

08:58.993 --> 09:04.735 [SPEAKER_00]: against for the least talking about the first half of the summer guys seeing how they do against quality arms.

09:05.995 --> 09:15.918 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that even though you don't get a huge sample size with these players, I think every in-person look kind of holds some sort of value.

09:17.759 --> 09:19.900 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I didn't see Chris Rembert for all five of his games.

09:19.960 --> 09:41.549 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw him a couple of times, but you can kind of get a feel for what the tools are, how a hit or handles himself in the box, what the actions look like, and sort of start building out your opinion of that player and start piecing together that puzzle and, you know, following him and all of that.

09:43.392 --> 09:55.018 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, there is still value there, but towards the end of the summer, like the league is so decimated at that point, you know, we're talking post all star games.

09:55.038 --> 09:58.639 [SPEAKER_00]: So post all star games being like the third week in July.

09:58.659 --> 10:03.302 [SPEAKER_00]: After the all star game, like it is essentially just

10:04.736 --> 10:13.599 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are guys coming up from other leagues who prefer well to help fill the holes of the guys that had left.

10:13.799 --> 10:21.641 [SPEAKER_02]: How thined out is the scouting crowd there for those last two weeks, because I imagine a lot of them have headed off to East Coast, near the Codes.

10:21.741 --> 10:26.403 [SPEAKER_00]: This year was ultra ultra thin, like I had the place to myself, like the runner.

10:27.083 --> 10:28.944 [SPEAKER_00]: the run of the place because I was pros and cons.

10:29.844 --> 10:30.644 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

10:30.844 --> 10:36.305 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, it was post all sort of game this year, super, super thin, really post draft.

10:37.486 --> 10:37.866 [SPEAKER_00]: It was thin.

10:37.906 --> 10:53.850 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a little bit of a re-rush for about a week there, but it got thin pre-quick, which is the case every year now with the July draft, and then especially this summer with the timing of East Coast and area code.

10:55.390 --> 10:59.921 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've talked about it with a bunch of people and it'll be really interesting to see.

11:01.777 --> 11:25.913 [SPEAKER_00]: place in which the league is in about, I don't know, three to five summers because I think just it being the capability on its own will hold value and you know, though, it's got good players, but I guess just that speaks to, you know, me wondering where the league is is also be kind of wondering where summer ball will be and if out summers, like it's it's pretty interesting to think about and you also have this

11:26.945 --> 11:50.041 [SPEAKER_00]: kind of talk and persistent rumbling of, you know, maybe a shift in when opening days for college baseball, so I don't know, like there aren't going to be less variables, like in three to five software, like for it kind of sucks to say, but like the college baseball off season and whatnot is not going to be any simpler.

11:50.061 --> 11:50.101 [SPEAKER_00]: So

11:52.924 --> 12:00.511 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, it'll be, it'll be very interesting to see what it looks like, what the talent pull looks like then, um, and whatnot.

12:00.591 --> 12:07.539 [SPEAKER_00]: I could also be being like, sky is falling dramatic, but I have thought about it.

12:08.490 --> 12:37.862 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well let's pivot back to some players after some some inside baseball sort of industry talk is there like a big I I also cut you off and you were breaking down some guys so maybe there's some more names you want to get into but I'm curious if there's any like a big winner of the summer as well on the college side because that is typically like there's someone who really improves their stock or just maintains maybe an approach change from the spring and kind of continues in pressing in that regard I'm curious if there's a name or maybe a few names who you came away really impressed with

12:38.763 --> 12:50.733 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I don't want to be the like bare or bad news, but to your initial point about someone having like a matcha or a Travis Pazana type of summer like not even close.

12:51.033 --> 12:59.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just because like every everyone that was performing well, honestly, like either left or has a sample size of like

12:59.960 --> 13:00.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

13:00.401 --> 13:20.377 [SPEAKER_00]: And then type games like no one really blew up like even Mike and knew who won the MVP like I think he brought like if you want to toss him into the bucket of a guy who kind of established himself and cemented himself as like a legit a mid draft prospects throughout the summer like you could probably throw him in there that he does have

13:21.258 --> 13:22.560 [SPEAKER_00]: his own like clear flaws.

13:22.580 --> 13:28.907 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he won the MVP after hitting two eighty with a K rate at almost thirty three percent.

13:30.129 --> 13:35.515 [SPEAKER_00]: If he want like kind of an under the hood look of like who stuck around for the summer.

13:35.535 --> 13:38.739 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's a fun player with tools, but like

13:39.555 --> 13:44.562 [SPEAKER_00]: The head tools below average where he fits defensively as a huge question mark like he made.

13:44.582 --> 13:49.790 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it Marshall this this spring they had a much short stop I think he made over thirty years.

13:51.091 --> 13:55.157 [SPEAKER_00]: So they just stuck him in center this summer and let him run around like he runs well he's a good athlete.

13:55.778 --> 14:11.178 [SPEAKER_00]: There's some thumb there, but I really wonder how he's going to do against SEC pitching because he wanted to enter the summer is not unknown, but I think that, you know, not a whole lot of people were familiar with Mike and News game.

14:11.238 --> 14:13.361 [SPEAKER_00]: So he stacked up like five, six homers.

14:14.242 --> 14:19.045 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty quickly, and then as the summer went on, people learned how to pitch to him.

14:20.306 --> 14:25.330 [SPEAKER_00]: That's evident with the final line, though, I mean, he took on MVP in the Cape.

14:25.370 --> 14:28.372 [SPEAKER_00]: That's going to hold value for better or worse.

14:28.432 --> 14:33.776 [SPEAKER_00]: But other guys that I came away, like impressed with, and I'll keep it shorter on them than Micah.

14:33.816 --> 14:39.059 [SPEAKER_00]: But at least I was kind of unfamiliar with heading into the summer.

14:39.079 --> 14:41.001 [SPEAKER_00]: It was Tray Brewsard from Houston.

14:41.141 --> 14:42.322 [SPEAKER_00]: He recently cracked

14:43.122 --> 14:58.482 [SPEAKER_00]: are updated college top one hundred fun twitchy athletic center field are like there tools there i i'll never hit for much power i don't think but feel for the barrel plus runner excellent athlete up the middle type of profile like

14:59.203 --> 15:03.508 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll perform well this spring at Houston or Sand Jack kid.

15:03.528 --> 15:09.796 [SPEAKER_00]: I like Tim a lot and then just kind of thinking it like Aiden Robbins from Seaton Hall.

15:09.816 --> 15:15.163 [SPEAKER_00]: I was really curious to see what he would do after the spring he had in which he hit for twenty two with

15:16.224 --> 15:19.286 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, twenty bags and thirty extra base hits.

15:19.346 --> 15:20.567 [SPEAKER_00]: He won the lead batting title.

15:20.687 --> 15:23.229 [SPEAKER_00]: So he won the he won the batting title.

15:23.269 --> 15:25.070 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's a Texas transfer.

15:25.671 --> 15:27.932 [SPEAKER_00]: He's transferred from seat and haul the Texas.

15:28.152 --> 15:31.455 [SPEAKER_00]: And he won the lead batting title after hitting three of seven.

15:32.555 --> 15:35.558 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which again is sort of a like that.

15:35.598 --> 15:46.046 [SPEAKER_00]: He had a really good summer, but usually you've got like a couple of guys in the batting tunnel race that are, you know, around three, forty to five.

15:46.587 --> 15:49.750 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, higher than that, but he was excellent this summer.

15:50.610 --> 16:06.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, one of the batting titles, six doubles, six honours, um, impacted the baseball a lot more than I thought he would, um, with wood, and he also plays where he played Harwich was a really non hitter-friendly ballpark, um, and he fared really well there.

16:06.422 --> 16:10.264 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he, he's a left field type of profile in the lawn run, but

16:11.185 --> 16:14.829 [SPEAKER_00]: offensively, it's a, it's a really enticing package.

16:15.650 --> 16:18.513 [SPEAKER_00]: The bad to ball skills are plus, there's bats peed.

16:20.915 --> 16:24.118 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fan of his, even more so after the summer.

16:24.138 --> 16:29.223 [SPEAKER_00]: And then just kind of darting around a little bit more mentally.

16:29.864 --> 16:32.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Cam Johnson, forget to it.

16:32.286 --> 16:34.108 [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked almost.

16:34.909 --> 16:37.231 [SPEAKER_00]: player, accomplish, definitely body comp.

16:37.811 --> 16:40.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but he's got a lot of Brooks ball on to him.

16:40.813 --> 16:42.034 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and that's kind of a deep pull.

16:42.094 --> 16:43.776 [SPEAKER_00]: He's currently bigger with the white socks.

16:44.516 --> 16:48.159 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but he's this twitchy athletic kid, no doubt plus runner.

16:49.039 --> 16:55.484 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, really good athlete, like how much physicality and weight he'll put on is kind of a question mark.

16:55.504 --> 16:55.964 [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost

16:56.845 --> 17:14.738 [SPEAKER_00]: If you would see him, you'd probably be in the same bucket, but it's one of those bodies where it's like, can you even add like a whole lot of weight to this sort of like how Brooks was coming out of UNCW, which is a question mark, but there's Twitch, there's tools.

17:15.339 --> 17:16.980 [SPEAKER_00]: He plays the game really, really hard.

17:17.040 --> 17:19.862 [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like he came up time and time again in big spots.

17:21.203 --> 17:22.224 [SPEAKER_00]: The tools are there.

17:22.324 --> 17:25.305 [SPEAKER_00]: They're really enticing and tangible.

17:25.345 --> 17:27.926 [SPEAKER_00]: He's transferring from which a toss date to Oklahoma.

17:28.026 --> 17:34.189 [SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be a big spring form in the SEC and then outside of those guys.

17:35.832 --> 17:40.915 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to thank Jared and Vincola was was going really, really good before he left due to it.

17:40.935 --> 17:43.716 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're we're going to have two cam Johnson's at Oklahoma now.

17:43.917 --> 17:49.820 [SPEAKER_02]: Cam Johnson, the left end of picture and now cam or Camden Johnson, the uh, and filter out filter and hitter.

17:49.940 --> 17:50.400 [SPEAKER_02]: That'll be fun.

17:51.861 --> 17:53.823 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that definitely won't be confusing at all.

17:54.964 --> 17:59.568 [SPEAKER_00]: The spring when we have to decide between there, talk through them.

17:59.588 --> 18:09.597 [SPEAKER_00]: But Jared VanKilla, going from college or to tech was excellent before leaving, kind of flash would he always has service college career, like acid ability.

18:10.438 --> 18:11.218 [SPEAKER_00]: feel for the barrel.

18:11.979 --> 18:15.940 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's honestly like a little bit of nicked, magical to his game.

18:16.641 --> 18:20.762 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but probably less fat to ball ability more thought, though.

18:21.122 --> 18:22.683 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's got to hit our bigger kid.

18:23.063 --> 18:23.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

18:23.403 --> 18:27.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I, I think when all said and done, he, he's got the upside to go.

18:27.485 --> 18:29.165 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like Gavin Kielan went.

18:29.446 --> 18:29.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

18:29.866 --> 18:30.366 [SPEAKER_02]: We got him right.

18:30.546 --> 18:31.466 [SPEAKER_02]: Sixteen right now.

18:31.847 --> 18:32.507 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

18:32.547 --> 18:35.968 [SPEAKER_02]: On your on your top college list, actually on the combined list, we've got him.

18:38.750 --> 18:41.432 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a fair spot and he can always play his way higher.

18:43.694 --> 18:50.520 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, we could bounce names off, you know, for probably the entire podcast episode.

18:50.560 --> 18:57.125 [SPEAKER_00]: But those were the few guys that I thought had a great year of Brendan Lawson as a freshman from Florida.

18:57.906 --> 19:01.268 [SPEAKER_00]: The one point that I should not show probably top the twenty twenty seven list.

19:01.709 --> 19:05.332 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's re-released in a couple of weeks.

19:05.372 --> 19:05.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he was

19:06.808 --> 19:20.279 [SPEAKER_00]: He looks like the real deal offensively like it's a unique operation set up with that ultra high handset, but he does a good job getting it consistently good hitters position and impacting the baseball.

19:20.920 --> 19:25.404 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be low well at least the dealer that he saw in three, three, three with four homers.

19:25.664 --> 19:27.587 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like I've always seen him hit.

19:27.728 --> 19:28.990 [SPEAKER_02]: He always controls the zone.

19:29.050 --> 19:30.051 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got solid power.

19:30.071 --> 19:32.395 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be curious where he winds up defensively.

19:32.415 --> 19:33.597 [SPEAKER_02]: He's put a lot of third base.

19:33.637 --> 19:35.941 [SPEAKER_02]: He's always been a little bit bigger physically and a lower half.

19:36.001 --> 19:37.804 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's a really fun player.

19:38.434 --> 19:43.100 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, defensively is a question mark, because I don't think it's third base.

19:44.221 --> 19:45.603 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's upsetting.

19:46.504 --> 19:49.828 [SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping you maybe be able to pick it enough to play there.

19:50.629 --> 19:55.395 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at least in what I saw, I don't think he's a pro third baseman.

19:56.937 --> 20:00.420 [SPEAKER_00]: but no, the offensive profile with him is the real deal.

20:00.480 --> 20:14.811 [SPEAKER_00]: And what's also kind of interesting when a friend in this, he'll probably be back on the cave next summer, barring an injury because he's Canadian, so he's not eligible to play for Team USA's collegiate national team, sort of like Travis Pazana was.

20:16.332 --> 20:18.914 [SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see him back there.

20:18.934 --> 20:24.818 [SPEAKER_00]: And then one guy want to give some love to, and he's a twenty twenty seven eligible as well.

20:25.982 --> 20:32.445 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew very little about him coming into the summer, but Chris Ramirez from Cal Baptist.

20:33.605 --> 20:42.088 [SPEAKER_00]: He's this short little five foot eight kid, but he was outstanding every time I saw him on both sides of the baseball.

20:42.228 --> 20:43.889 [SPEAKER_00]: He had three, fifty at Cal Baptist.

20:43.929 --> 20:45.269 [SPEAKER_00]: He's staying at Cal Baptist.

20:45.309 --> 20:46.230 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a portal guy.

20:46.250 --> 20:51.292 [SPEAKER_00]: And then this summer across seventeen games, he hit three, eighty.

20:52.112 --> 20:55.774 [SPEAKER_00]: a few doubles, ten walks to three strikeouts.

20:56.275 --> 21:02.279 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the batteball skills and with him already lead, the approach is outstanding.

21:02.319 --> 21:04.400 [SPEAKER_00]: Controls the strike zone really, really well.

21:04.440 --> 21:11.105 [SPEAKER_00]: Like undoubtedly throughout the entire summer, he was the toughest kid to strike out in the entire league.

21:11.145 --> 21:13.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Like without a doubt in my mind.

21:13.907 --> 21:16.869 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're only songs swing and miss twice.

21:17.049 --> 21:17.769 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't chase.

21:18.430 --> 21:20.091 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this is the Nick Mizer call comp.

21:20.887 --> 21:22.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

21:22.647 --> 21:26.548 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to chance to kind of blow up over the next year and a half.

21:26.649 --> 21:35.711 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know just how high his prospects status will get because there is a real, I mean he lacks juice and he probably always will.

21:35.771 --> 21:43.013 [SPEAKER_00]: But like there's a chance heading into the twenty seven cycle, which is Ion's away, but he could be a plus hit guy.

21:43.893 --> 21:47.636 [SPEAKER_00]: borderline plus defender at short, like really quick and solid.

21:48.096 --> 21:55.441 [SPEAKER_02]: He was the whack freshman of the year, whack defensive player of the year, all whack first team, all defensive team, obviously.

21:55.461 --> 21:58.643 [SPEAKER_02]: So it sounds like he had a pretty dumbness.

21:58.683 --> 22:00.884 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not around outside of the whole mind.

22:01.365 --> 22:11.451 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll probably run that back in the whack, but I mean, I was I was really, really impressed with him on both sides, like buttery smooth actions at short arm strength to stick there.

22:12.592 --> 22:17.074 [SPEAKER_00]: Hidden ability was outstanding, like baseball sense off the charts, he checked.

22:17.575 --> 22:27.060 [SPEAKER_00]: He checked a lot of my personal cheese ball type of boxes, like obviously there are exciting tools there that you can kind of feel juiced up about, but

22:27.960 --> 22:37.824 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I I loved getting to watch him play day and day out and hopefully he's back next summer since he was just a freshman this year, but it would not totally blow me away.

22:37.844 --> 22:37.924 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

22:38.584 --> 22:43.026 [SPEAKER_00]: If he snags himself at least a team USA camp invite, but that's

22:43.875 --> 22:58.399 [SPEAKER_00]: like one maybe underrated guy, at least from a household name standpoint, for listeners to circle and highlight with a red pen, because he's, I, I'm a real believer in this kid.

22:58.759 --> 22:58.999 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

22:59.739 --> 23:01.600 [SPEAKER_02]: That's also my handful of names on the college side.

23:01.620 --> 23:05.681 [SPEAKER_02]: I got a couple in the high school side on a mention here before we get out of here.

23:07.161 --> 23:10.084 [SPEAKER_02]: Mostly from area code games, two names.

23:10.164 --> 23:16.809 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the first one I have to mention is Jensen Hirschkorn, who does not rank on our combined overall.

23:17.310 --> 23:22.454 [SPEAKER_02]: Top one hundred list, but Ben has him eighty three on our top two hundred high school list.

23:22.494 --> 23:23.855 [SPEAKER_02]: That was updated in July.

23:24.035 --> 23:26.598 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a right hand a picture out of California.

23:27.358 --> 23:30.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Six foot seven, two hundred and five pounds.

23:31.522 --> 23:34.564 [SPEAKER_02]: He probably had the single most dominant

23:35.454 --> 23:39.097 [SPEAKER_02]: look that I've ever seen at the area code games.

23:39.418 --> 23:48.645 [SPEAKER_02]: It was nine batters up, nine batters down, all swinging strikeouts, and it was real stuff to go along with the performance.

23:50.547 --> 23:52.988 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a pretty special look.

23:53.088 --> 23:59.071 [SPEAKER_02]: It was swinging track out on the slider, slider, fastball, fastball, slider, slider, change of fastball.

23:59.731 --> 24:02.853 [SPEAKER_02]: Slider, it was just overwhelmingly dominant outing.

24:02.913 --> 24:05.574 [SPEAKER_02]: He was ninety-two to ninety-six with the fastball.

24:06.094 --> 24:07.115 [SPEAKER_02]: I had one ninety-six.

24:07.135 --> 24:08.875 [SPEAKER_02]: He basically sat ninety-three, ninety-five.

24:10.576 --> 24:16.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Really easy velocity, smooth and controlled delivery from a three-quarter slot.

24:16.971 --> 24:20.253 [SPEAKER_02]: The breaking ball was eighty-one to eighty-three.

24:20.293 --> 24:24.456 [SPEAKER_02]: It was this solid, consistent slider that he landed to his glove side.

24:25.797 --> 24:29.880 [SPEAKER_02]: Seven swings and misses on that pitch overall on eight swings.

24:30.101 --> 24:34.324 [SPEAKER_02]: So the miss rate, the swinging strike rate, both exceptional.

24:34.764 --> 24:42.710 [SPEAKER_02]: With that pitch, he rounded out the arsenal with a changeup that also got misses really effective right on left piece, eighty-six.

24:43.290 --> 24:44.471 [SPEAKER_02]: There was one that was eighty-nine.

24:46.172 --> 24:50.356 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if that was just a fastball taken down, but it looked like a change out to me out of the hand.

24:50.416 --> 24:55.520 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's three pitches that I thought were above average or better, solid control, great body.

24:55.540 --> 24:59.243 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just a dominant dominant look.

24:59.303 --> 25:03.887 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he was kind of the talk of area code games for that performance.

25:03.927 --> 25:08.110 [SPEAKER_02]: I think for a number of people, it's like the most dominant outing they've seen there.

25:08.150 --> 25:12.574 [SPEAKER_02]: If you strike out all nine battles you face, you had yourself a pretty good week.

25:12.774 --> 25:13.194 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's

25:14.055 --> 25:16.297 [SPEAKER_02]: the number one guy that I came away with impressed with.

25:16.997 --> 25:36.874 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say I remember reading about it in Slack one actually from Josh and for the I guess a little bit more inside baseball not to not to tip anyone's hands, but usually the mentality is when Josh Norris are eighty grade prospect writer and he and being gets excited about a player at any level.

25:37.234 --> 25:41.197 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, typically want to kind of listen and get your get no doubt.

25:41.237 --> 25:41.478 [SPEAKER_00]: He was

25:43.299 --> 25:45.082 [SPEAKER_00]: He was super do stuff about this kid.

25:45.262 --> 25:49.188 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, you were low's, which had me all the more excited about him.

25:49.268 --> 25:52.614 [SPEAKER_00]: And the video backed it up, like, to your point.

25:52.754 --> 25:56.459 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole lot of, like, this is kind of what it looks like.

25:57.515 --> 26:12.623 [SPEAKER_02]: Josh just tweeted out some video already but we'll have more in the coming weeks as I get through my full notebook on an area code games but it was it was a dominant out again also sidebar going to area code games with Josh Norris this is his first area code games event

26:13.323 --> 26:22.833 [SPEAKER_02]: And I tried to downplay the action as much as possible because I feel like the pro guys always come and watch the amateur players and are always like disappointed and wanting more.

26:23.494 --> 26:28.159 [SPEAKER_02]: But it was nice to hear that Josh was very pleasantly surprised with the quality of play.

26:29.060 --> 26:29.721 [SPEAKER_02]: from America.

26:29.761 --> 26:36.970 [SPEAKER_02]: So whether that's a testament to just the players who come this event annually or a testament to the joying twenty six caliber of talent.

26:37.491 --> 26:41.736 [SPEAKER_02]: I was very happy to see Josh get excited about about the play out there.

26:41.756 --> 26:46.422 [SPEAKER_02]: And then one last player I'm all mentioned before we get out of here today is Blake Bowen.

26:47.871 --> 26:50.575 [SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the more impressive hitters of the event for me.

26:50.595 --> 26:57.203 [SPEAKER_02]: He's an outfielder out of the Jay Sarah Catholic High School in San Juan Capestrano, California, committed Oregon State.

26:57.863 --> 27:00.507 [SPEAKER_02]: Six foot three, two hundred, fifteen pounds, right, right.

27:01.907 --> 27:02.988 [SPEAKER_02]: He was just a barrel's machine.

27:03.008 --> 27:09.631 [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like every time he stepped to the plate, it was loud contact going the other way in total.

27:09.691 --> 27:15.693 [SPEAKER_02]: He went six for fifteen or five games, four singles, two doubles, two strikeouts.

27:16.534 --> 27:23.077 [SPEAKER_02]: And the way I was taking those scenarios, which really, I'm probably going to replicate this moving forward because there's just a lot easier to see.

27:24.388 --> 27:32.099 [SPEAKER_02]: like how the hitters who stood out typically have like these scout cards with really detailed sections for both pictures and hitters.

27:32.719 --> 27:35.924 [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of simplified things for the hitters and basically built out some

27:37.027 --> 27:39.931 [SPEAKER_02]: ways to track them in just the roster.

27:41.253 --> 27:45.919 [SPEAKER_02]: But I highlight ABs for hitters that are either quality or really loud contact.

27:46.439 --> 27:52.928 [SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like Blake Bowen's entire scout card for me is just one big highlighter.

27:53.068 --> 27:53.549 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just

27:54.670 --> 28:14.035 [SPEAKER_02]: barrel turning around ninety miles per hour ninety nine X of velocity for a single a hundred and four mile per hour double and ninety eight mile per hour fly out and ninety eight mile per hour fly out a hundred and three mile per hour ground out an eighty seven mile per hour single to the opposite field so it's like His performance was impressive.

28:14.055 --> 28:23.577 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the quality of his A. B's even in at best where he did not walk away with a hit was one of the more impressive of the event using incredibly strong

28:25.157 --> 28:28.099 [SPEAKER_02]: Real knack for the barrel isn't a presivator, I would imagine.

28:28.119 --> 28:30.860 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're already having them in a decent spot on the list.

28:30.880 --> 28:33.002 [SPEAKER_02]: These are in our top two hundred or our top one hundred.

28:33.022 --> 28:35.943 [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of have them spotted in like the third round range.

28:36.744 --> 28:40.786 [SPEAKER_02]: Hard for me to see him not moving up after what he's done this summer with that sort of performance.

28:41.557 --> 28:48.100 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it seems like, I mean, seems like he's had a good summer circuit for himself and yeah, it's a good body.

28:49.100 --> 28:51.841 [SPEAKER_00]: Bats beats legit from what I've seen at least on video.

28:51.881 --> 28:58.004 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's good to hear you get a good area code where there any sort of in it, similar breath of the cape, where there any other like.

28:58.699 --> 29:07.521 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, sleeper perhaps under the radar guys between ECP and an area code that jumped onto your radar or not so much.

29:07.541 --> 29:17.843 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the the twenty six class, especially the the twenty twenty six group of high schoolers, at least at this point appears to be loaded and it works on to it.

29:17.983 --> 29:23.644 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious if there was anyone that was previously somewhat of an unknown that stood out to you.

29:24.170 --> 29:28.033 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, from the most part, this is like my first looks at a lot of these guys.

29:28.114 --> 29:32.037 [SPEAKER_02]: So like there's the famous guys that I'm aware of, but I'm still seeing all them for the first time.

29:32.357 --> 29:34.759 [SPEAKER_02]: One name is further down, who's not on our combined list.

29:35.560 --> 29:39.804 [SPEAKER_02]: New Jersey product, short stop out of the Paul Catholic High School and Wayne New Jersey.

29:40.685 --> 29:41.626 [SPEAKER_02]: As far as I know, still

29:42.366 --> 29:44.506 [SPEAKER_02]: uncommitted, maybe that's changed after this performance.

29:44.546 --> 29:53.008 [SPEAKER_02]: But Jason Amalberg at Erica Games, he was another player who was just constantly on the barrel through loud contact, really impressive base runner.

29:53.168 --> 29:58.669 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, every time he got on the bases, he was showing excellent jobs, excellent instincts.

29:59.849 --> 30:04.430 [SPEAKER_02]: He was on the Yankees area called Steam, which is probably the most overmanaged team at the event.

30:04.450 --> 30:10.331 [SPEAKER_02]: Those guys are absolutely playing to win every game and lay in crunch time situations.

30:10.351 --> 30:11.351 [SPEAKER_02]: He was being pitched, run

30:11.931 --> 30:17.235 [SPEAKER_02]: like you've come in as a pinch runner and would actually make a pretty immediate impact in that capacity.

30:17.275 --> 30:21.098 [SPEAKER_02]: So I thought he was one of the other hitters who released it out.

30:21.178 --> 30:32.926 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'll just mention this in closing, but striker Pence, the nephew of Hunter Pence who's this, it's awesome going to these events because you're always going to see something that you've never seen before.

30:33.306 --> 30:34.367 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a

30:35.935 --> 30:37.036 [SPEAKER_02]: sophomore in high school.

30:37.076 --> 30:41.918 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a member of the twenty twenty eight class six foot six hundred ninety five pounds.

30:42.619 --> 30:45.680 [SPEAKER_02]: He came out Peter throwing a hundred miles per hour.

30:45.741 --> 30:50.923 [SPEAKER_02]: He threw like seven straight fast balls at a hundred miles per hour.

30:51.504 --> 30:52.944 [SPEAKER_02]: He pitched just one inning.

30:54.185 --> 30:56.587 [SPEAKER_02]: But it was downright silly.

30:56.607 --> 30:58.908 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to scroll out some of notes here.

30:59.868 --> 31:09.354 [SPEAKER_00]: But because I know the heater was really like, I mean, it was nine, eight to a hundred, spun it at like, twenty four to twenty hundred airplanes, but like the slider.

31:09.454 --> 31:16.578 [SPEAKER_00]: Get to like, he ripped off the fingers and I was like, oh, I had it as the above average.

31:17.239 --> 31:19.240 [SPEAKER_02]: I had it as an above average or plus slider.

31:19.260 --> 31:20.701 [SPEAKER_02]: It was eighty three, eighty five.

31:21.653 --> 31:30.141 [SPEAKER_02]: really good by, I mean, the arm slowed some, but it was twenty three hundred to twenty six hundred RPM, like three quarter shape, ten to four kind of shape on the slider.

31:31.222 --> 31:35.886 [SPEAKER_02]: He struck out two batters and got a pop up, finished all those ABs on the slider.

31:35.906 --> 31:40.670 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was like freaky sort of stuff.

31:41.090 --> 31:43.132 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the guys I can remember throwing

31:44.093 --> 31:47.216 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've seen any, any picture ever this young throwing this hard.

31:47.717 --> 31:51.780 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's like kind of concerning in some ways, but also just shocking the arm talent.

31:52.441 --> 31:55.364 [SPEAKER_02]: But like Travis Accora, I remember watching him throw.

31:55.384 --> 32:00.148 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a hundred and one or a hundred miles per hour, but this was a year later.

32:00.168 --> 32:03.632 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's still an underclassment, but not not sophomore.

32:03.672 --> 32:08.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, Miguel C, my junior was throwing ninety nine as an underclassman, but it's

32:10.512 --> 32:30.192 [SPEAKER_02]: everyone was wondering if he was going to reclass to at least twenty seven and his stuff would fit in right now so that will be just an interesting name to follow fingers crossed against a healthy because that is obviously the big concern when you did that young throwing that hard but he will certainly be a famous name if he's not already kind of becoming there but

32:31.415 --> 32:35.964 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, again, who got big notebooks coming up with tons of dope on a lot more players on the site.

32:36.004 --> 32:37.206 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys want to check that out.

32:38.368 --> 32:40.412 [SPEAKER_02]: We've got plenty to talk about over the next few weeks.

32:40.492 --> 32:43.417 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, Peter and you final final comments for we get out of here.

32:44.533 --> 32:45.634 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was a fun summer.

32:45.674 --> 32:50.918 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of nice to officially turn the page to the, to the class of twenty twenty six.

32:51.818 --> 32:54.780 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're kind of off and running with the flicks on that group.

32:54.860 --> 33:05.788 [SPEAKER_00]: So like you said, there'll be a ton of content, whether it be in the form of of pieces and rankings or podcasts to keep you occupied, not only throughout the fall, but before we know, it's kind of crazy.

33:05.828 --> 33:10.551 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be sitting here talking about college opening day, happening in, in a week's time.

33:10.671 --> 33:11.392 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

33:12.855 --> 33:16.223 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a fun time of year and looking forward to it.

33:16.704 --> 33:16.904 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool.

33:17.485 --> 33:17.666 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

33:17.746 --> 33:17.967 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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