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[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hot Cheat Rollin' right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Baseball America's finest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You got JJ Cooper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The OG Hot Cheat member with me, Scott Braun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mark Turelli joining us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think for the first time, Jacob Brudner with us as well, Mark first time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: First time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to pop quiz you from the start, but I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited and bring it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bring the energy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Monday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to keep people going here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mid August, dog days.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Before we start actually JJ, quick question for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we're going to dive into some of these all ups from the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Timing wise.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rookie eligibility.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm going to say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are already ready to go on that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm ready to go on that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: After about this on FT, I was like advantage for team because they can keep the rookie status for next year and get the pick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I was like advantage for play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if there is an advantage for the player.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I would say that with the players, the thing with all of this is there are players who in the past may have been held back and now there's an incentive to bring them up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We are seeing more players come up now because of this because you want to get them acclimated to help them try to win rookie of the year next year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you have seen a little bit of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the key number is is that August fifteenth was the date where if you brought

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[SPEAKER_04]: After that, if you brought a player up, he will not hit the forty-five days of service time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He will not exceed that this season, which means as long as you keep him below the player below a hundred and thirty-one appats or fifty innings, they will be rookie eligible next year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The key part of that is, is if a prospect is on two of at least two top-hundred lists, R's, ESPN's and MLE pipelines,

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[SPEAKER_04]: they can win a draft pick for their team if they are a rookie of the year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Also if they finish in MVP voting or Si Young, down the road, got to think of three of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're wondering why did we see Dylan Beaver's come up the day we did?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Why did we see Samuel Bessayo come up when he did?

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the reason is that there's no real reason to bring them up before That because you would then now the interesting what that is is Owen Casey did come up before that So if Owen Casey stays up the rest of the year he will not be rookie eligible and he will not be eligible next year for a rookie of the year PPI incentive if he's kept up for the remainder of the season Quick question quick follow up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Does that have to do with?

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[SPEAKER_03]: him being on a roster of at a big league level, even if case he's not playing every day, because he clearly is not going to get every day at bats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's probably going to sit sometimes and not get it even to pinch it up that, but that's it doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're talking in service time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He came up before.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So he would get over forty five days of service time if he's up the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now you can sit him down.

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[SPEAKER_04]: for a week and well that's the key thing there though too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is why service time gets really convoluted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you send them down it has to be for more than seven days or otherwise it doesn't count.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So if they sent Casey down for ten days at some point over the remainder of the season, he would still be PPI eligible next year or nine days or eight days.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But if you send them down for a couple of days and right back up, it still would count as service time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it is interesting when he was brought up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now Miguel and Maya went on the I.L.

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[SPEAKER_04]: if a Maya who

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thankfully doesn't seem as injured as it looked like he was when he got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But if a Maya came off the IL in a few weeks and they sent Casey back down for the remainder of the season or something, then he was still be eligible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Boom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like to nerd out on this topic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Plus we hit it on Val territory as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's hit the first move.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Here comes young Samuel Basalo to the Baltimore Orals Big League Club, a highly rated prospect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JJ, somebody that you've been keeping track of for quite some time, and here we go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What should we expect?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I also want to throw this out the real quick before you enter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We do prospect profiles on the baseball America YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We did one on him, so it's still relevant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can check that out, but let's get the latest year from the guy right next to me on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JJ, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_03]: As a hitter,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Samuel Basillo is truly special.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He just turned twenty one this past week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He hit two seventy three seventy seven five eighty nine with twenty three homers in just seventy six games a triple a this year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's almost nothing to dislike about what he's doing offensively.

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[SPEAKER_04]: As far as average EV in Tripoli, second in Tripoli, among two hundred plus plate appearances, Roman Anthony number one, among average bat speed, fourth in Tripoli, among barrels, as far as bat at balls, you know, versus plate appearances, number one in Tripoli.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We are talking about a truly leader with elite power.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Who, by the way, as we just said, is twenty one years old and just turned twenty one in Uncle Ted, you're wrong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Dylan Beaver is not better and he will not be better to say.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Reading our comments as we have them come in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The key question, though, is is that

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[SPEAKER_04]: Samu Bassayo is a catcher slash first baseman.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So what we spent a lot of time what I wanted to spend a lot of time on working on for this was okay well what about him as a catcher and the thing that kind of came away with is

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not bad back there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, the tricky part is his, he's twenty, and he doesn't have nearly as much experience behind the plate as most catchers when they reach the majors, because they're just not as good a hitter as Samo Bessayo.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The problem Samo Bessayo has had is he's so good offensively that he keeps getting bumped up, and so he's reached the majors at an age where most of his contemporaries aren't even coming close to sniffing the majors,

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[SPEAKER_04]: The last one we saw who did it at this age was Francisco Alvarez, but the key difference there was Alvarez was

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was coming up to a team that needed a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they, the Met's were willing to live with the possibilities of him having some ups and downs behind the plate.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The silo is joining a team that has an established catcher.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it'll be interesting to see how much they are willing to kind of live with.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What I would say is really kind of minor growing pains.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to have to adjust to the majors.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing that does jump out in that graphic right there shows it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There are not guys who reach the majors and catch twenty five plus games in their age twenty one season, but I like you said could do that next year and qualify for that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Check out that list and you are looking at guys who those are your twenty first century guys other than Luis Trends was a real five pick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These are guys who generally, okay, Daniel Navarro was a useful thousand games in the big leagues, but not a star.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The rest of that list, those are stars, and then an Alvaro's case, a guy who is kind of establishing himself potentially as a star.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But Sio is a truly special player, but when you talk about him defensively,

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[SPEAKER_04]: His throwing arm is strong and he just needs to kind of get a little quicker with unfurling himself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's really big.

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[SPEAKER_04]: His blocking is solid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hands aren't great, but receiving framing is fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like there's a lot there that really does jump out to me as is, you know what, if the Orioles, and he wants to do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The Orioles are willing to work on it and willing to give him the opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's crazy to think that he can catch even if he is one of the bigger guys out there that you're going to see catching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: JJ, after your synergy deep dive, did you walk away more optimistic based on what you went in thinking about as defense and to bring it back to the hands point, I feel like that kept coming up in the story, the hands of anything where limitation now, curious based on catchers that you've evaluated in the past, where your optimism is in terms of that get better for him as he gets more time with the majors.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say that it's definitely always going to be a limiting factor because the really special guys are the ones like I big league catchers a lot of them are wizards at this point to me I always think of that ball where

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of, they're set up here and then it kind of bounces away to their left and they backhand it with their glove.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Besides, you can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If besides, if it gets outside of his frame to his right, he has a trouble kind of snagging that ball that the pitcher just really missed his target with.

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[SPEAKER_04]: With the framing, sometimes you'll see him a little bit have to kind of catch it first and not do that fluid motion where he's kind of dragging it into his own throughout the reception, you know, throughout the catch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I would say with all of that,

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just not great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's probably going to be a limiting factor.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not talking about someone who's probably going to become a gold Glover behind there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But you are talking about someone who is turning an average pop times right now with some of the best arm strength in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking about a guy who's been pretty much an average framer in AAA this year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Really good at the top of the zone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: A little bit not enough good at the bottom of the zone as a framer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about someone who's bilingual, who

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, can speak to the, you know, Spanish-speaking pitchers and to the English-speaking pitchers, you know, and is able to be a great communicator.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the other key thing about this is, and has shown the desire he wants to do is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He wants to catch, which I always kind of talk about, because that's really catching's terrible.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Catching's hard, and if you don't want to do it, you're not going to probably do it well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Sammy Obasayo has over the years shown that he wants to catch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say though, JJ, that first base ends up being the destination for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned the bat earlier and how this is a special player in terms of the hit power combination rare, especially for a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he does end up at first base, where does that bat stack up among first base?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And would he be somebody who's capable of hanging with what we see with modern first base bats?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you should be one of the best hitting first baseman in the major leagues.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Again, we don't want to go overboard for this, but guys who reach the majors at twenty one like this, that puts them in a pretty rare group already.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The guy you can't help but kind of compare him to when you talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Roman Anthony him aren't perfect analogs, but Roman Anthony like him kind of reach the majors that are roughly the same age.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hips the ball exceptionally hard has I would say that Anthony had a little bit has a little bit better batting eye, but Bassayo has kind of enough bat to ball skills to really make it work even though he's a little bit more aggressive I would say.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pitching the N can be beaten in the zone a little bit more in Anthony, but that's the kind of guy when we talk about from a pure power standpoint, when you talk about the Batsby, when you talk about the exit velocities, when you talk about the ability to consistently generate hard contact, like I said, when you look at barrel rate and AAA, Samuel Bassai is number one, Roman Anthony's number two.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's what we're kind of talking about here, and if you look at his season this year,

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not all that different than Roman, what we've seen from Roman Anthony.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This kind of power, twenty three homers in seventy six games in AAA as a twenty year old is something you just don't see very often.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There are examples.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You can find a Korean Garcia, you know, every now and then someone who reached the AAA and produced at a very young age and then struggled to kind of keep it going.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's pretty rare.

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[SPEAKER_04]: More normally, it's the guys like John Carlos Stanton who had thirty seven homers before he by his age twenty before he turned twenty one in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the kind of thing that you more often see is the guys who move this fast.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And especially when they have the background of the tools like the SIO has, they're the white guys who end up being really special maps as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great breakdown.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Orils fans should be excited, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is somebody that you've been waiting for if you're an Orils fan and here you go and add a very young age.

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[SPEAKER_03]: get a great breakdown there from JJ coming up next another prospect breakdown that we want to go over Nolan McLean made his debut for the Metz he dazzled so we'll get everyone's take on what they saw from him plus a new top farm system according to baseball america we'll go over that team coming up and it's a team that you're going to be like oh really them beer back okay crats I opened up arena club put my own money in there

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I wasn't going to go big.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know we went over the Ruby pack a week ago this time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just went for the low level pack where it's an easy entry point, twenty five bucks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I slice open the pack.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're looking at it if you're watching us right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I pull a card from the nineteen fifties super cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I enjoyed the experience looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's Jim Gilliam.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a top set from the mid fifties, but I got an offer for more than with the slap pack cost and I sold it back tough times for the Dodgers right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can buy another one of those packs and try and get what I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you get to open another one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Get after it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk Nolan McLean.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice cutter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking out for the punch out there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JJ, this guy can spin it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How much do you like him going into this outing?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And do you think that this could be a number one or two starter for the Matt's homegrown?

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was our, we just updated and he was our number one met's prospect going into that start.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say, safely, we're not reevaluating anything after that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The only thing I would say that you have to watch after that start is, how is he gonna handle lefties?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you said, okay, he was great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But how is he gonna handle lefties?

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's I think a little bit more of a question.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing that does jump out with him, you talk about that breaking value, compared to especially pair with that fastball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The breaking balls are special potentially.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that this really, for the match, this was kind of vital for them that they're getting, because they've really kind of struggled, obviously, and part of the struggles have been the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Having someone that can add who's not just kind of trying to tread water, but someone who can really make an impact for them is kind of a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And Jacob, the thing that does jump out, like, as that tweet right there says, it wasn't that long ago that this guy was an outfielder who also pitched a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean we're talking about somebody who's a really standout athlete and that is kind of the theme among these guys who can rise quickly who are really college baseball stars and then they go and make an impact in professional baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that stood out to me from his debut and this has been a part of the conversation that we've been having at baseball America for some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he can beat you in terms of the strikeouts and that obviously stands out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time somebody misses a lot of bats and with the way that his breaking balls are, it's really impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, I like Nolan McLean because he's able to beat you by making contact too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not somebody who's afraid to pitch in the zone and make his defense play behind him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw that a little bit in his debut as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that this is somebody who's very versatile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's able to get out to him multiple ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that his ability to induce that bad contact should be ignored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was that way when he was at Oklahoma State.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw it with his Met's debut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw it in the minor leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I expect that to be a staple of his game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That bowling ball sinkers really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's able to make bad contact with hitters who are trying to beat him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's able to get past him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't have to as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The other thing that I wonder what this is is, I know this is one of the trio.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know they've said that Jonah Tong's not coming up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't expect Jonah Tong to go into the meds rotation, but I do really get intrigued by the idea of what Jonah Tong could do in a short-stint, one-inning outings as a reliever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let that kind of, he's a weird look.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let him kind of just face teams one time never let a batter see him twice in a series.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that that could make an impact for them in the postseason Brandon Sprote is obviously another guy who could fit especially in that kind of role.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've seen the youth movement start here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I kind of wonder if there's going to be some consideration, especially when we get to September, about maybe moving a little further.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Jonah Tong has had a just reach AAA at a great first start AAA, but he's also the minor strikeout leader this year, a fastball change up combo that is pretty unique and delivery that's pretty unique as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that it was a long, long for the mats, but they still think they're a world series team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if that's the case, Best Arm from the Big Leaks, now is the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's certainly some guys that can be replaced.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They might be expensive replacements, like a Frankie Montass, who is on the oak still for next year for seventeen mill, but it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get to another team in the national league that is thriving.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In the best team in baseball right now, record wise, the brewers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And guess what, Mark?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They also have the best farm system according to Baseball America with the mid-season talent rankings update, so how did that work out?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They got a little bit of everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Scott, they've got high in ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hazard's my day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Take a mizzerowski at the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've had breakouts this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Luis Pena went from off our top one hundred to inside the top twenty this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's pitching depth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've just, you know, the last two drafts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They brought in a lot of talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But one thing that really stands out to me too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You talk about Provers Magic right now from the majors all the way down to the complex.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're developing these guys with unique backgrounds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't a number one farm system that has a bunch of first rounders and a bunch of guys with pedigree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Neither my day or pain is signed for over a million dollars coming out of the international for agent market.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Rowski was a second rounder that they signed over slot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cooper Pratt, six rounder they signed over slot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can go up and down the list until you get to to recent additions and anti-fisher and great evil.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There isn't a ton of first round or first round adjacent pedigree, which I think just speaks to the job they're doing up and down their system and coaxing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The most out of what's in there and also identifying different types of players that they can maximize.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It is truly an organization where

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[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like almost everything's going well right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The other part about this is we've seen this again this year, Logan Henderson, Chad Patrick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is also an organization.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Isaac Collins is one of the best minor league rule five picks that we're ever going to see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But this is an organization that kind of helps guys get better.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Every year it seems like that coming into this year, the question was, is, well, what is this brewer's starting rotation going to look like?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then we turn around and they have too many starters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They've had Logan Henderson.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know he's on the aisle right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They've had Logan Henderson AAA at times where you'd have been starting for more than half of the teams in the major leagues.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what they kind of do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're just kind of relentless and

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[SPEAKER_04]: The other part about them is that they play good defense everywhere across the diamond.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They have short stops playing second.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They have short stops playing third.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They have center filters playing right and left.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Or in Isaac Colt case, an infielder playing left field.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's been a really good defense event outfielders.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's just a team that's kind of hitting on all cylinders.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think Mark Kiddet, the key thing is is internationally, they've really kind of unlocked a new level when you talk about guys like mod A and Pania and all kind of

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[SPEAKER_04]: adding to what they were already doing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A little poke at the constant salary cap complaining from some teams who just are rooting or from some fancier are just rooting for teams that are not run well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The rich get richer is the headline here for the brewers, best record and baseball, best farm system in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's queue up the first question here from a fan and see what we're working with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rob, since your title is all about Samuel Bessayo, when trade Gibson pitches to Bessayo in twenty twenty six, will Gibson be on baseball America's top one hundred JJ.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a very good chance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He already has moved up to where he is near the top of the Orioles top, top thirty.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He is him and Esteban Mejia are the top pitching prospects in the Orioles system.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mejia has a higher upside but Gibson obviously is in Triple A now and had a very good debut in Triple A.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's on the edge of it right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We like to say that the difference between a guy who's at the very back of the hundred versus a guy is not a hundred is razor thin and trade gifts in one of those guys who's right in consideration for the back of the hundred.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ben has a question about the reds given this severe lack of production at first base, their base and the age, how are the reds not calling up?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sal Stewart.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JJ, what's the plan here?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they traded for Keybryne Hayes, told down third base, Stewart can play any of those spots, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: He can, I would say though, third base would be a little bit more of a challenge that defensively there are questions still about him at their base.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's played some second.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, he's not going to play second for the reds either.

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[SPEAKER_04]: D-H refers based.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's more of a kind of a fair question.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say at this point, because you wouldn't be asking too much of him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He hasn't played as much first bases you would want for a guy to jump right into there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, he's been productive at AA now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's been even better.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, triple A's on our hot sheet again this week over at baseballamerica.com.

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[SPEAKER_04]: At this point, he's added to the ability.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's always been a very pure hitter, but now what he's doing is he's showing that he can turn on a ball when a pitcher challenges him, which before there's a lot of Oppo, Oppo, Oppo.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of hits to be had in the opposite field, but to be able to then

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[SPEAKER_04]: Put a little fear in the picture where, hey, if you kind of come in on me, I'm gonna make you pay for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's done that more in the last three months that he did the entirety of his career, you know, before that last three months.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that kind of was like the last step for me as a hitter, kind of seeing him reach this point.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say that they made enough moves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that Miguel Andohar is kind of who they're looking at to kind of do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He is much more experienced, but I would say that Stewart very much should be in their plans for twenty six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Boom, there you go, great answer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What a day for prospect promotions, reading the baseball America tweet from yesterday, kind of gripping to AA, the degrees gets promoted to AA, obviously, beside we covered earlier in the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So JJ, what do you think about gripping in degrees?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to throw a bonus question here, because we got two minutes left in the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ken Rosenthal's fair territory show had a fan question asking, if Connor Griffin should get a little Jackson Churio off or send his way for an extension before he hits the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say that if you're the pirates a hundred percent you would want to do that if I'm kind of griffin this is I would probably not like he was the number nine pick so he's already gotten paid enough where he already has the taking care of the family for a very long time money I'll kind of kick this to mark a little bit

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not kind of something that the pirates normally do, but I was, am I fair and saying that like if you're the pirates, you would a hundred percent be willing to kind of offer a pretty massive extension, which would also be huge for the pirates from a standpoint of actually locking up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: One of their, right now, Connor Griffin at this moment is one of the three, two or three most important players on the pirates.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know he's not in the big leagues, but you've got Paul schemes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're done with the list after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know that massive is a relative term.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The biggest extension in terms of total value they've ever given out is a hundred and six point seven five million to Brian Reynolds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, Cheerio came in at eighty two with a ton of escalators.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for the pirates to do this would be, uh, somewhat or almost uncharted territory for the organization.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'd have to kind of work through the optics of extending countergriffin before Paul schemes but sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They would be absolutely, I think the development of Griffin this year is is a franchise altering, uh, you know, six months for them because for so long it's the last two, two years it's been

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pirates pitching, Pirates pitching, but where's the hitting?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This year's been the inverse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got Griffin, they've got Edward Fortino, suddenly you're starting to see the seeds of some hitting development and some reason to be optimistic that this line up in another year or two could have some high end talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So sure, they should absolutely be into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they necessarily can afford what kind of you're from might be able to get in say six to twelve more months.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and it fires fans see any type of offer his way and then go, what about schemes?

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[SPEAKER_03]: schemes is a little more pricey at this point, guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been in the big leagues for a couple of seasons now on his way to probably in Saigon award here after rookie of the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, great show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mark, great debut with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JJ, Jacob, great to have you as usual.

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