<v Speaker 1>Jerry, Katie and Josh makes one hundred.

<v Speaker 2>Now, Katie's got a story about how the ladies are

<v Speaker 2>babying men too much. But before we do that, please

<v Speaker 2>tell us what you did yesterday, because I've never heard

<v Speaker 2>of anybody doing this.

<v Speaker 3>I do this all the time. I go into department stores.

<v Speaker 3>I pick out like twenty outfits, and then I go

<v Speaker 3>try them on and.

<v Speaker 4>Have a little fashion show in the changing room. And

<v Speaker 4>it's my favorite thing.

<v Speaker 2>And really not really you just try it on, yes,

<v Speaker 2>flaunt it in the mirror, and then move on.

<v Speaker 5>I do.

<v Speaker 1>Isn't that like a tease for yourself though, Like, don't

<v Speaker 1>you want to buy the clothes if you look good

<v Speaker 1>in them? No?

<v Speaker 3>I Well, honestly, there's sometimes where something will look too

<v Speaker 3>good and.

<v Speaker 6>It's all clear and you're coming over.

<v Speaker 4>Okay, you and I are going to be friends.

<v Speaker 3>But for the most part, I do it because I

<v Speaker 3>don't have a lot of just like extra money spending

<v Speaker 3>around to where I can go spend it on different

<v Speaker 3>outfits whenever.

<v Speaker 4>I want them.

<v Speaker 5>You're on your budget journey.

<v Speaker 4>I am on my.

<v Speaker 3>Budget journey, and so like this, I don't know, like

<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make me feel sad.

<v Speaker 4>I can't have it. It makes me feel good.

<v Speaker 3>One because I think more of it for me is

<v Speaker 3>I have been going on vacation. I really was watching

<v Speaker 3>what I was eating. I was working out a lot more.

<v Speaker 3>And so I'm in a stage right now where I'm

<v Speaker 3>okay with my body and I'm like when I go

<v Speaker 3>try on clothes and they fit, I'm like.

<v Speaker 5>That, you feel good, positive, And.

<v Speaker 3>Then I'll go get it in like three different sizes

<v Speaker 3>and hope the smallest size fits, so then I'll try

<v Speaker 3>on that one like second or third, not the first one,

<v Speaker 3>just in case. All of these things in my head

<v Speaker 3>to where it's like this is gonna make me feel happy,

<v Speaker 3>like this is gonna make me I can't why not?

<v Speaker 6>And you're not spending money.

<v Speaker 2>You got a little you know, boosting your a little

<v Speaker 2>pep in your step when you leave. It's really no

<v Speaker 2>different than they say, you know, if you have hunger

<v Speaker 2>cravings and stuff, just to go smell the food and

<v Speaker 2>see instead.

<v Speaker 4>Of eating it.

<v Speaker 5>Really no, I think it's along the same way.

<v Speaker 2>You're teasing yourself with like a beautiful outfit and you're like, oh,

<v Speaker 2>I can't afford this, so I'm just good put it back.

<v Speaker 4>I have more self control with my money, right, But it.

<v Speaker 2>Is along the same lines they say, you don't even

<v Speaker 2>have to drink coffee. You can go take a huff

<v Speaker 2>of coffee grounds and it's a lot of times the

<v Speaker 2>same benefit as just drinking a cup of coffee. It

<v Speaker 2>kind of gets the same endorphins flowing throughout your body,

<v Speaker 2>so that I can.

<v Speaker 3>See the bright eyed, bushy tail kind of just immediate

<v Speaker 3>from smelling coffee.

<v Speaker 4>I get that.

<v Speaker 6>But if you're huffing KFC, you want to eat it.

<v Speaker 4>I know I do.

<v Speaker 3>If I'm smelling chicken, I'm gonna be eating it bat

<v Speaker 3>t seconds. But yeah, so this was fun for me,

<v Speaker 3>And I just want to point out as well that

<v Speaker 3>when I go and take all these clothes, I put

<v Speaker 3>them back.

<v Speaker 6>I do.

<v Speaker 3>I will go back throughout the store and put them

<v Speaker 3>back because I don't ever want to create work for

<v Speaker 3>someone else. I don't want my happiness.

<v Speaker 5>But that is their job. You're actually creating work for

<v Speaker 5>somebody else.

<v Speaker 4>But they have enough things where people are buying things.

<v Speaker 1>As someone who used to work for me, yeah, it

<v Speaker 1>was like as someone who used to work at one

<v Speaker 1>of those department stores going in at the end of

<v Speaker 1>the day, and seeing in the dressing rooms apile pile

<v Speaker 1>of used, unused clothes and there it's not the most

<v Speaker 1>part of the.

<v Speaker 2>Part of the I will say I worked at American

<v Speaker 2>Eagle for approximately forty eight hours at one point early

<v Speaker 2>and you know, high school or whatever, and I bailed.

<v Speaker 1>You would find men's and women jar you made the

<v Speaker 1>right decision because you would find men's and women's underwear

<v Speaker 1>with streaks in them.

<v Speaker 5>I'm not going no, see, well, I'm into that.

<v Speaker 6>So you shoulday that I had known in the I.

<v Speaker 2>Hadn't known, I would have. Now I wonder if I

<v Speaker 2>just get a job in the afternoon from now for that?

<v Speaker 4>All right, exactly, that's right up your ally.

<v Speaker 6>Now it is.

<v Speaker 2>Speaking of sniff and stuff to make you feel good revolting.

<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's so great.

<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, it's so bad. You're thinking, well side

<v Speaker 4>hustle for you.

<v Speaker 5>Can you keep the underwear?

<v Speaker 6>Oh, if it's used like heavily used like that, they.

<v Speaker 5>Want you to keep the under yours my resume ready.

<v Speaker 3>I don't think you need one for that, but I

<v Speaker 3>strongly suggest it to people if you're looking for some.

<v Speaker 3>But again, you try and be courteous to people who

<v Speaker 3>work in these places, and I want to point out

<v Speaker 3>because it's back to school season, and there were a

<v Speaker 3>few times, especially the.

<v Speaker 4>Last week, I go get a bunch of clothes.

<v Speaker 3>I was so excited, and I go to the dressing

<v Speaker 3>room and there were like ten kids in there trying

<v Speaker 3>on school clothes. I'm like, today's not the day.

<v Speaker 4>Today is not the day to do this. So just

<v Speaker 4>you know, be aware of all that stuff. But it's

<v Speaker 4>fun for me.

<v Speaker 5>At least I gave it.

<v Speaker 2>You might have given somebody an idea this morning if

<v Speaker 2>we're kind of down in the dumps feeling blocks funny too.

<v Speaker 3>The the there's a department store here, I'll just give

<v Speaker 3>the ross here. In Park Meadows Mall, they're changing rooms

<v Speaker 3>are under construction. So in the front of the store

<v Speaker 3>they have set up what they look like a changing.

<v Speaker 4>Room they got at Ikea.

<v Speaker 5>You it is so just like it's just old refrigerator boxes.

<v Speaker 4>It looks like augusta wind is gonna take it all out.

<v Speaker 4>So I'm not changing in there either, because I just

<v Speaker 4>feel like the walls are going to fall and I'm

<v Speaker 4>gonna be naked.

<v Speaker 6>I'm over there, so be.

<v Speaker 3>Careful for that as well. But it is a good time.

<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, I smile every time.

<v Speaker 5>I might try it.

<v Speaker 2>Some days.

<v Speaker 3>I don't do this during the holidays when I eat everything.

<v Speaker 6>Now, that was like during winter, you're like, no, this

<v Speaker 6>is not.

<v Speaker 3>A fun time when you're putting on the LB's, But

<v Speaker 3>you know summer when you're taking them off looking.

<v Speaker 6>Good, have had it? That's great. I love it. I

<v Speaker 6>might try it.

<v Speaker 2>So it's probably not, but I might probably right, right, right,

<v Speaker 2>So what's the story you have about.

<v Speaker 5>The ladies baby and the men too much?

<v Speaker 4>Okay?

<v Speaker 3>So the thing is is there's an actual term for it,

<v Speaker 3>and it is This term has evolved over the years.

<v Speaker 3>First came out in the eighties and it was called kinkeeping,

<v Speaker 3>but they've now they've started calling it man keeping, and

<v Speaker 3>it is essentially, uh, here is the AI overview. It

<v Speaker 3>refers to the emotional and social labor that women often

<v Speaker 3>perform in heterosexual relationships. So some of these things are

<v Speaker 3>they're saying, they're managing their men's social lives and their

<v Speaker 3>emotional well being as well as their mental load. And

<v Speaker 3>this can come in ways like planning social events, also

<v Speaker 3>manage conflicts that you have with people and encouraging you

<v Speaker 3>to maintain your friendships. And it's been a while since

<v Speaker 3>I've been in a like long term relationship, right, But

<v Speaker 3>when I read this, it brought back so many memories

<v Speaker 3>of me trying to encourage my significant other. You should

<v Speaker 3>really reach out, so and so it's been a long

<v Speaker 3>time since you hung out.

<v Speaker 4>That's important. You need to go hang out with your friends.

<v Speaker 3>You know, Like guys just tend to I think, get

<v Speaker 3>in this just comfortability part of their lives where they're like,

<v Speaker 3>I like doing things this way, and I'm going to

<v Speaker 3>do things like this for the rest of my life

<v Speaker 3>because this is what I like so far.

<v Speaker 4>No, and women, we encourage you.

<v Speaker 6>That's comforting to us.

<v Speaker 4>Rodden your spectrum to you know, get out there.

<v Speaker 6>No wonder he left you. It's just fun.

<v Speaker 4>It's funny to hang.

<v Speaker 6>Out with my friendship.

<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Josh.

<v Speaker 2>If I don't want to hang out with my friend,

<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen in ten years my best friend, Surat,

<v Speaker 2>who was the best man in my wedding, and I've

<v Speaker 2>known him since sixth grade or whatever. I maybe talk

<v Speaker 2>to him twice a year, maybe see him once.

<v Speaker 5>A year on his birthday.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

<v Speaker 6>See, like I've met Sara. I want to hang out

<v Speaker 6>with my best friend Katie.

<v Speaker 5>Would you push me to talk to sarat more?

<v Speaker 3>I mean, I probably need to talk to I probably will.

<v Speaker 6>Does Nick Knack not do that? Does? She's like, you're

<v Speaker 6>dumb friends.

<v Speaker 4>She love that, you know.

<v Speaker 3>I think the thing is is you guys have been

<v Speaker 3>married for a long time as well, you know, so

<v Speaker 3>I think like you've discovered your roles. You understand where

<v Speaker 3>you lift each other up, and you're really good at that.

<v Speaker 3>You know, like a lot of this is the people

<v Speaker 3>who are struggling and they're not realizing why. And it's like,

<v Speaker 3>you know, a lot of this is unpaid, unacknowledged, and

<v Speaker 3>often unreciprocated.

<v Speaker 4>That's the thing is the women are doing this for

<v Speaker 4>the men, and the men are not doing this for

<v Speaker 4>the women. And you know, just a really good overview

<v Speaker 4>of it is, you.

<v Speaker 3>Know, man comes home and gosh, I had a day

<v Speaker 3>and it was this and this and this, and the

<v Speaker 3>woman tries to tell you the same thing and you've

<v Speaker 3>already checked out.

<v Speaker 4>You don't hear any of you.

<v Speaker 6>Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

<v Speaker 6>That's exactly it.

<v Speaker 3>It is a thing, and it's actually something that they're

<v Speaker 3>saying is a reason women are wanting to be single

<v Speaker 3>and wanting to not be in relationships. Is this whole

<v Speaker 3>man keeping phenomena.

<v Speaker 2>So like on the surface, I mean, as you were

<v Speaker 2>starting to tell me this that, yeah, I think that

<v Speaker 2>is so beneficial to have a woman in your corner

<v Speaker 2>that like roots for you, encourages you, listens to you,

<v Speaker 2>pushes you to be better, you know, helps you with conflicts,

<v Speaker 2>helps you with family stuff like everything you kind.

<v Speaker 5>Of listed off.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then boom you said it because I was

<v Speaker 2>thinking it. I was like, but it's got to be reciprocated. Yeah,

<v Speaker 2>you've got to also do that to her and be

<v Speaker 2>there for her. Yeah, and uh, yeah, I think we're

<v Speaker 2>pretty good with that in my house.

<v Speaker 5>I feel like maybe I probably don't.

<v Speaker 6>Do it as much as Nick Knack. She's the nurturer

<v Speaker 6>in the house though. Yeah.

<v Speaker 3>Well, And it's funny because it's like, I think we've

<v Speaker 3>just like accepted that these are our roles in relationships, right,

<v Speaker 3>because this is something that I think since the beginning

<v Speaker 3>of time, this is how men and women have acted

<v Speaker 3>when they're in relationships. But this is what's interesting is

<v Speaker 3>they did some research on it, and they found that

<v Speaker 3>currently only thirty eight percent of single women in the

<v Speaker 3>US are looking for a relationship, where single men that

<v Speaker 3>number jumps to sixty one percent.

<v Speaker 2>And so the men there's different reasons they're Katie probably yeah,

<v Speaker 2>because well, and the women.

<v Speaker 3>Aren't opting out of love, they're opting out of being

<v Speaker 3>someone's therapist with benefits. And so I think that's where

<v Speaker 3>it lies, is like the women are so sick of

<v Speaker 3>having to do this to you know, be your therapist

<v Speaker 3>and be and there's other things as well, but uh,

<v Speaker 3>this is just very interesting because it's popping up on

<v Speaker 3>all the you know, socials, all the news sites about

<v Speaker 3>like the women are really paying attention to this whole

<v Speaker 3>paying attention to this whole man keep thing. And it's

<v Speaker 3>just it caught my eye because I was like, yeah,

<v Speaker 3>I love being single because I only have to care

<v Speaker 3>about myself and you know, for those people like, you know,

<v Speaker 3>I have a daughter who's grown, and I've done the

<v Speaker 3>whole you know, dog, you know, husband, picket fence whatever,

<v Speaker 3>I've done all that, and it's like, you know, I

<v Speaker 3>have experienced these things and a big reason I don't

<v Speaker 3>want to get into a relationship is because of this,

<v Speaker 3>Like I don't want to pick up your crusty underwear

<v Speaker 3>off the floor, but.

<v Speaker 2>Into these relationships at all. I mean, naturally, there's gonna

<v Speaker 2>be some of this no matter what. Though, there's gonna

<v Speaker 2>be a little bit of it again the given, So

<v Speaker 2>you want to cut it all off.

<v Speaker 6>I'm humming.

<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping the person that I find will also reciprocate,

<v Speaker 3>as we were saying. So that's where it says women

<v Speaker 3>are just done with dating because until we find that

<v Speaker 3>person who's willing to also be our therapist and also

<v Speaker 3>be willing to give us some emotional support, then it's

<v Speaker 3>not listen to you.

<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's where love comes in because if you do,

<v Speaker 1>you're right, all that stuff sounds horrible until you love

<v Speaker 1>someone and you're like, I will listen to you till

<v Speaker 1>the end of my day. Like that's when it happens.

<v Speaker 1>So if a guy finds you and loves you, he

<v Speaker 1>will want to reciprocate that, not just looking for a

<v Speaker 1>good time or anything like that, and that does come

<v Speaker 1>I think that also plays new effect love languages, because

<v Speaker 1>that's how people give antake love. They receive it certain ways,

<v Speaker 1>and you have to learn that about your partner and

<v Speaker 1>learn how they receive their own version of love, you know,

<v Speaker 1>And if it's just listening, then that's the quality time aspect.

<v Speaker 6>You just got to figure that out.

<v Speaker 5>Could you repeat the first part of that story?

<v Speaker 6>Though I wasn't listening.

<v Speaker 5>I hate you so much, such a budhead.

<v Speaker 6>I totally checked out from this. How is she with you?