Jonathan Moffett (00:00.142)
Do you remember I quit the show? You were so pissed. And I was like, you know what? I don't need this. I don't know why I'm doing this. I didn't even want to do this. I'm done. I'm out. I quit. I quit. I was like walking out to the parking lot. They had to come back and talk me down. Welcome, Mythfits.

Jonathan Moffett (00:37.07)
Hey Mythfits, it's another Mythfits Monday. We are back again. And since this is actually a part two episode because we were gonna just answer a bunch of fan questions. And in part one, Tori and I got lost and answered one question in an entire episode. It was a good subject. It was a good question. But yeah, we only got through one of them. We have so many weird stories. We have to answer more fan questions. That's what we said we were gonna do.

Are you ready for part two, Tori? Yes. All right. So this question comes from Tony Cancel. Given the known complicated relationship between Jamie and Adam, did you guys ever have to choose sides? Did it get awkward and silent for the rest of the day? I mean, early on, we worked with Jamie and Adam a lot because we were their backup builders and that kind of thing.

I don't remember choosing sides as much as like we were assigned to each of them. So you were just working with one of them. I mean, I used to listen to them if they got into any sort of, you know, argument, but I don't remember choosing sides. was more just like, ah. I think the side we were choosing on is, uh, can you guys get over this disagreement so we can be done? like I remember there was an episode, it was the chicken cannon episode and

So they came up with this system to test the penetra- the penetrability of a frozen chicken versus a thawed chicken. And so whichever went deeper than they would be able to tell this was conclusive, a frozen chicken versus a thawed chicken, which one has more penetrability. So they're testing it and there's, you can't tell, they're just all like, they're just blowing up these blocks of foam. And I remember Jamie and Adam just like,

getting into this argument and Adam was like, this was your idea. And he was like, well, this isn't, we can't conclude it. And they were just going back and forth, back and forth. And I remember the camera crew and the producers were like, all right, we're done. Like you guys figure this out. We're going home. Why don't you guys figure this out and we'll reconvene tomorrow morning. When they were done, you and I still had to clean the shop. So we're just like, finish arguing. Is that when Jamie, I

Jonathan Moffett (02:59.416)
think they left it in the episode goes, do you need a cookie? Yeah. Adam was so worked up and Jamie just knew how to push his buttons because Jamie was a robot. literally didn't like nothing got under his skin and he just knew how to push Adam's buttons. I disagree. Jamie definitely you could get under his skin. It's just he didn't show it. He just got more and more.

quiet the more pissed off he would get. like, you knew he was really mad when he would just completely disappear and just go up to his office. That's how he would be mad. It's just like, quiet. And it was almost more maddening because Adam likes to, he'd like to get the conversation out and Jamie would disagree, but then just kind of shut down and leave, you know? Like that was the way he would argue. I don't remember taking sides, but I do remember, you know, like we pretty early, we went autonomously.

So we were doing our own thing. So it wasn't really like the kind of situation where it was, were, you know, the war of the roses, that wasn't happening. But we worked really long hours and we were with each other all the time. And it was like family, like sooner or later, you're gonna get on each other's nerves. And every now and then we would fight over something. And sometimes it made camera and sometimes it didn't. There were times though where we would go head to head.

with each other. So Jamie and Adam would go head to head and then they would have a couple of us on their team, finding a needle in a haystack or the hoverboard episode where we were each building our own, team were building their hoverboard. And I remember when you were on Jamie's team, you would come in and just, you would try to sabotage us all the time. And it was like, what are you doing? And you're like,

Oh yeah, that wasn't me though. was the producer at the time was trying to create conflict because they weren't talking enough smack. They weren't like, so we'd like, Carrie, Carrie, go over there and you know, talk some smack. I'm like, really? He's like, yeah, I was very suggestible. Okay, sure. I'll go talk some smack. That's easy. Do you remember that one time we were testing, believe it, you guys had to sleep at the shop. You and Grant, had built this.

Jonathan Moffett (05:16.398)
It was hangover cured. And you guys had to sleep at the shop and I was super duper pregnant. So I wasn't participating in the alcohol part. I was supposed is a wise decision when you're pregnant. Right? The right decision. I was supposed to piss you guys off. So they gave me air horns and I was supposed to come in early in the morning. was like six in the morning and I was supposed to come in just all full of crazy.

I came in with the air horns, I'm like, get up, get up. Like my job was to make your hangover horrible. The end of the day, they're filming me and Grant and like pounding as much alcohol as we can. And now they're like, okay, you can't drive home, so you guys gotta spend the night. So we actually built rooms, bedrooms in the shop. And so now we are so hung over and it passed out completely. And then here comes Carrie.

with the horns and pots and pans and banging them together. It was just like, Oh my God, I want to kill you right now. And you had a water gun and you sprayed me in the face. And I was hormonal and pregnant. And it was first thing in the morning and I had to get up early and put on all the makeup and sprayed me in the face with the water gun. I went full fucking diva. Do you remember I quit the show?

You were going to quit? No, you weren't. did. I was, I was so hormonal, Tori. I was really, really pregnant and I cried. I was like, you know what? I don't need this. I don't know why I'm doing that. I didn't even want to do this. I'm, you know, I'm done. I'm out. I quit. I I was like walking out to the parking lot. They had to come back and talk me down. Working on MythBusters pregnant was, was really hard sometimes. Cause I, you know, I was taking naps underneath my desk cause I was so tired and

I wasn't one of those little pregnant ladies. I was big pregnant. Like really, I went, I did pregnancy like super sized. was huge. gained so much weight and I was so just weepy and just easy to get at. I'm a good shot. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hit you right in the face. That's a good shot. forgave you after they told me how crazy I was acting, but I mean, I was just so big. I'd come into the room. You remember you guys would always go, yeah.

Jonathan Moffett (07:40.952)
Because I know we didn't. No, we did not. We never. You're making that up. There's no way we would ever do. yeah. No. Maybe when you wore the red jumpsuit. But that's the only maybe it was Grant. But that joke did not. That joke. I never I would never. I remember. Yeah.

Jonathan Moffett (08:14.446)
I just want to go back to that episode, that experiment. So we had these rooms set up in the shop and we each had our bedroom. And so it was the end of the night and I was like, we had a safety officer, right? Cause he was like supposed to, he stayed there all night with us in case we got hurt. You know, if we were going to the bathroom and we were drunk and fell over and got hurt on some equipment. So he was in the office, probably asleep, but he was supposed to be awake keeping an eye on us.

And so I remember I had set up a ladder in the back of the room and I told the cameraman, I go get up on the top wall because I'm going to jump into bed. I'm going to climb up on the wall and do like a wrestling move and jump into the room. And so he's like, okay. And so I do it. run around and climb up on the wall. I'm standing on the wall and the safety officer is like, get down. What are you doing? And I jump and I, all I'm thinking is hit the bed. Don't miss. Like if I miss the bed, I'm going to break a leg.

So I hit the bed, but what I didn't think ahead of time is that I literally bounced right out of the bed. I hit the mattress and it launched me against the wall onto the floor anyway. So good times, good times. Yeah, I think that there's one place you shouldn't be drunk and that's at the shop. There's just, at the shop with cameras, there is no good decisions to be made.

Were there, I mean, do you remember other times where we had behind the scenes drama? I remember every now and then we'd be fighting, fighting over something done. I remember there was one time you and Grant, it was New Mexico Tech. You and Grant were fighting over something. I can't remember what it was, but it was, you know, was so hot out. It was over a hundred degrees. So tempers were pretty short and it was the end of the day. And you guys were like in each other's faces about something.

The only thing I could think to do was to defuse the situation. And I walked up to you guys and said, pull my finger and then just let out a giant fart. And you two fell over laughing. I went from being super embarrassed to fart on camera to like, I'm going to embrace this. is a grandpa. You became an old grandpa.

Jonathan Moffett (10:31.15)
I'm just a goofy little girl and you wouldn't expect me to rip a fart to break up a fight. But then after that, we're like, okay, let's stop taking ourselves so seriously. No, we would. Yeah. It was like whenever we disagreed on a way to test something, there was a lot of tension. I remember when we were testing bifurcated boat and that we had this rope system. So we tied the rope to a trailer and the rope was strong enough to

towed this boat on this boat trailer and we were trying to crash it into this steel pole to see if we could get it to bifurcate. And so we came up with this system where if you tied the rope, we used this marine blue rope and it was strong enough that it would pull the weight of the boat but when it hit the pipe, it would break away from the vehicle that was towing it. So that was like kind of our safety release mechanism. And so we did it and it like

didn't break away and I remember Grant comes up, he's like, I told you we never use the blue rope. And I was like, we always use the blue rope. We were just having this dumb yelling match. And then the camera comes over and they're like, keep rolling, keep rolling. And I'm just like, oh my God, we look like such idiots right now. We're complaining over some stupid blue rope like children.

Or you get so invested and, and you know, it's, it's, it's a sibling relationship. You're going to fight over dumb stuff. I mean, there was all sorts of fun behind the scenes. I wish that that was the show. Like that was the best reality show because it was so much cooler behind the scenes than when you actually saw the show. Like the experiments were great. It was fun, but they literally could have had an entirely different show because so much fun happened. remember this, this one time with Grant where.

This wasn't drama, I just, for some, it reminded me of this because I think it was around the same time that we were testing that myth. You guys knew that I, at the time, before I had a kid was extremely germaphobic, just like everything was gross to me. But the grossest thing of all to me was the fact that men didn't wash their hands after they went to the bathroom. I always thought it was so gross that like men would shake your hand and the whole time I kept thinking, touching your penis, right? Because men was like, never wash their hands.

Jonathan Moffett (12:55.022)
I could always tell they'd come out with dry hands for the bathroom. it's just like in my head. Like it was just, it was disgusted by this one fact where Grant was in the porta potty and he heard me walking by and he starts yelling, I'm touching my penis. I'm touching my penis. I'm come out and shake your hand. Here it comes.

Here it comes. We just had this whole conversation about how was just like, they need to wash their hands after they go to the bathroom. I wash my hands. Why do you just assume men don't wash their hands after going to the bathroom? Maybe we're just really good at drying our hands after washing them off. Really? I'm going to ask you this. You have spent more time in the men's room than I have. What percentage of men don't wash their hands after they pee?

I mean, I don't keep track of it. I'm not like, sir, you just touched your penis. I need you to go over there and wash your hands. Anonymity breeds honesty. Cause I feel like I just out of my personal, maybe I just hang out with dirtier dudes than you do, but I feel like they come out of the bathroom with dry hands. really got an idea, Carrie. Why don't you sneak into a men's bathroom, set up a hidden GoPro, film it.

And then you can count and see exactly what percentage of men after urinating wash their hands. What do think? A good idea. I should totally do that. Is this a myth episode? Yeah, this is what we're going to test. OK, I'm going to get let's get to another question. Let's see if we can answer another one. It's from Sario 528 rewatching the first zombie special. And I have a question for Tori. OK, this one's for you.

Did Carrie ever apologize for sacrificing you to the hoard? They weren't real zombies guys. Yeah. You sacrifice me to the hoard. Why'd you do that? The answer is no, I did not apologize to sacrificing Tori to a bunch of fans dressed as zombies. I remember one time speaking of throwing somebody under the bus. We were testing how to beat a guard dog and we were testing different things like pheromones from a

Jonathan Moffett (15:11.704)
from a wolf, wolf urine is supposed to scare dogs away. There was coming in, like having a bunch of steak. so Carrie had steak. And so she was in the dog bite suit. She breaks in and throws the steak down. The dog completely ignores her. It absolutely works. The dog is sitting there eating this meat and she's heading her way to get the, you know, the safe, the stash, whatever it was that we were.

Stealing and so as she's on her way. She's almost done I take a chunk of steak and I show the dog and then I toss it at Carrie that lands on her back and then the dog goes after her and takes her down and I remember I was laughing I thought it was hilarious, but the producers were so pissed at me because they were like you just ruined this experiment It was working. It was working perfectly and you've just ruined it. I go, but that was funny. It was better I think that's funny TV, you know

Wait, can we just, I just want to unpack this for a second. so the producers weren't mad that I had a piece of steak thrown on me so that a guard dog would try to tear me to bits. Mind you, those bite suits protect you from the bite, but the jaw strength, I was black and blue. They bite so hard. It's like putting your, bird arms felt like they were in a vice. Like they bite really, really hard. And the producers were like,

You ruined the scene rather than you threw meat at Carrie. Come on. I feel like I've made the scene better. They were like, you've screwed up this experiment. it worth missing the priority here being my safety? You're good. You had the bite suit on. We're all, we're all rooting for you. It was so hot and that bite suit was so hot. And I remember when I was.

I was testing the wolf urine. It was very pungent. So pungent. that smell drifted. I was covered in it and I was wearing a motorcycle helmet and it drifted up inside the helmet. And I started dry heaving so hard that I hit my face on the front of the helmet and I gave myself a bloody nose. It was just awful. I was covered in urine.

Jonathan Moffett (17:35.65)
I was bleeding out the nose. I was dry heaving. It was so hot. I wanted to pass out. just was like, you know, they've been dog bitten all day. remember the wolf urine actually worked for a second. Do you remember the dog ran in, smelt the wolf urine and was like freaked out like a predator and then was solved you and went, not working. He's going to bite you. He's going to bite you. Was it freaked out or was it like you snank?

I'm gonna put my mouth on that. No, I think it was more, holy crap, this is a wolf. I smell wolf and then he saw you and was like, that's not a wolf. There was a whole segment that they cut out. Like I feel like Mythbusters, could re-cut. There's so much footage that was cut from the episodes that never made it that there could be a whole like brand new series of just what didn't make it. Do you remember? Cutting Room Floor. One of my techniques to beat the guard dog.

was I built these like huge stilts and like arm and leg stilts. And I was gonna like walk over the dog and the dog wouldn't be able to get me. And we did this in the shop and I had like a harness to the ceiling and it was kind of working, but then like I just slipped up and then fell. And then I was just like hanging from the rafters like a puppet. And we, it made it in the rough cut, but then it...

It was something where it's like Jamie and Adam's story, they wanted more of their story and then so they cut out our story. And it was like, like that was such a great moment. That was so funny. never seen. You know what? I didn't watch a lot of the episodes after they aired. I watched the rough cuts. So I don't think I realized that that didn't air. That's hilarious. my God. That was such a good moment. I wish they left that one in.

Jonathan Moffett (19:38.222)
All right, next question. Do we have another question? We do. OK, ready? This one's from Jimbo 89. Tori was there for a moment. You almost quit. kind of that actually works. What is your worst memory, Tori? I think it was early on, very early on in the show where they were cutting me to look like this like jerk. And it really bothered me because I was like, my God, like I don't remember. Like I didn't say that or it didn't.

You know, like there's the fight where me and Adam are arguing, but they only left where I'm arguing with Adam. didn't show the beginning of this argument. And I was just like, I was like, I can't do this. Like this is, I already don't want to be on camera. Like I've told that from the beginning and now they're making me look like the bad guy. I definitely don't want to be. And so I remember that was like the first moment I wanted to quit.

But then as the show went on, somebody said, if you don't give them that stuff, they can't use it edit. I was like, oh, that's a great piece of advice. I, you know, just don't, you know, don't get upset. Don't get mad. Just don't give them things that you don't want used in the show. But then after I got used to that, was, there was a producer that just like had it out for us, I feel like, and would do things to try to

upset us or get us mad at each other. And I remember specifically going, you're going to have to fire me. I'm not going to quit. And what was that? When was that? This was, it was like mid mid or like early seasons when this producer was leaving at the, like, you know, the wrap party. He was like, ah, Tori, I should have fired you the first week. I was like, oh, what a dick.

He was like, you're so terrible. I should have fired you after the first week. And I was like, thanks. Good luck. See you later. Have a good career. Good guy. See ya. It was like such a dick move. Yeah. We got a lot of behind the scenes drama with him. I don't even know if we can go into it, but I think we had some Stockholm syndrome there. Yeah. He was, he was interesting. The puppet master. That's who you're talking about. One and only.

Jonathan Moffett (22:00.942)
He was intentionally controversial. He loved being salacious. He loved stirring stuff up and it was fun for him. He just really enjoyed making you uncomfortable. Do you remember when he shot Jamie with a soft pellet gun under the table straight into the crotch? Yes. That was one of those times where you were asking about what does Jamie look like when he's mad? my God. He was so mad.

So just to set up the situation, it was when we were doing blueprints. so Jamie and Adam were sitting around the office, the big table with the blueprint, going back and forth on how they wanted to test it. And this producer had this soft... It was one of the paintball soft guns. It was like an airsoft. So they were like little pellets, but they still hurt. They had a good velocity to them. They, yeah, they hurt, especially in sensitive areas.

And so he's underneath the table or he's laying on the floor, directing them from the floor. And he's got this airsoft telegun and he shoots Jamie right in the testicle. And I just remember Jamie just went, and his face turned bright red and he goes, you shot me in the testicle. like we were doing everything we could not to bust up laughing because it was just such a

like unexpected reaction to getting shot in the balls. But horrifying situation. Yeah, this is your producer. Man, back in those were the old days of production. mean, I've been on a lot of shows since and you know, it was pretty wild west back then. Things were very different on set than they are now. Like everybody's so careful now. And the last show I did a pilot for

I went through 45 minutes of sexual harassment training and you have to get certified in all of the things you can and cannot say and how you address the other people in the office. it's, really locked down. But when we were filming the show, was, mean, anything goes, anything goes. don't know. Do you remember this? I'm starting every story like that, but I was sitting on the workshop table and this particular producer,

Jonathan Moffett (24:25.154)
came up with a big bottle of super glue. And he squirted it at my rear that was sitting on the table. And then he kicked it. So if people don't know, when you use this super glue and then the kicker makes it instantly just very, very quickly harden, but it's a thermic reaction. So it's super, super duper duper hot.

So all of a sudden my butt is being glued to the table and it's burning and my skin is sizzling and I'm like, and I jump up and there's just like a patch of denim and skin left on the table. And I was beyond mad. I was in pain. like I hollered over to the bathroom and locked myself in and I'm like, this MF is not going to get my tears. He's not getting my tears. And I'm like,

trying to pull it together. There's a hole in my jeans. My, my, my, my ass is bleeding. I'm just like, like this kind of stuff on set. Like I could have sued in modern days. This is whole different situation, but I was just like, you don't get this. I, I, I, I tied a sweatshirt around my waist and I came out. Like it didn't even bother me. I'm just like, that was, I told, I think I said it was mean, but I didn't do anything about it. Cause I'm like, nope.

I'm tougher than you. You're not gonna drive me out. I'm not gonna be a little girl here. I'm not gonna cry. You don't get my tears. Yeah, I remember you were sitting on the table doing a piece to camera and he snuck up behind you. And as soon as the kicker catalyzed, a big plume of smoke shot up from behind your butt. And you were like, it's getting hot. It's getting, my God, that's hot, it's hot. And then he jumped up and that's where we saw the piece of jean stuck on the table and we're like,

Dang dude, like what are you doing? That is so dangerous. I gotta say though, at the end of the day, I mean, we could talk about behind the scenes stuff. There was so much fun and so many antics and so, you know, there was some drama, but that wasn't overwhelming. mean, mostly it was a really good time. We had so much fun together. And I feel like our shop, like the build team, we had way more fun. Cause I remember at M5, if somebody screwed up like a

Jonathan Moffett (26:51.574)
a builder or a shop tech, Jamie and Anna would send them over to our shop and they were like, it's heaven over here. we were the island of myth toys. When somebody was done with them, they'd come over to us and we just had, we had so much fun. It really was even hung out after work. was, it was great. All right. So let's get to one more question because, I want to, I want to be able to answer a few. So, I believe this is,

Oriol Gonzales, I could listen to you guys for hours. Have you ever thought about doing some kind of longer recorded live show in the future? That's great idea. totally. No, we talked about, we record a lot and a lot of it, know, some of it doesn't get into the episode, but a live tour, that would be just in front of an audience, do a podcast in front of that'd be fun. Or what if we just did some special, you know, more

We could talk for hours and hours and hours and there's only so much that we could put on the podcast. What if we did like a Patreon where it was, we just keep talking. We keep answering questions or, you know, the extended extra that we could put on a Patreon or something. We could do that. Totally. You know what else would be fun is if we did a watch along and we started an episode and you and I watch and the listeners at home can start the episode when we start it. And then it'll be like a behind the scenes.

a Blu-ray, DVD commentary. What's a Blu-ray? come on. You're not. Tori, I think you're just coming up with more reasons to spend more time with me. But would that be fun? a little watch along? Do we have wine and pizza while we do it? Yeah. Every time somebody says science, they have to drink. I got a fun idea, Tori. How about this?

If people want to ask us questions, if you send us a video question or an audio question, DM us at Mythfits Podcast and then we can use it on the show. Then you get to be in the show. Yeah, come be in the show with us. That would be awesome. Like, subscribe, follow, and send us all of your questions on a video or an audio message and come back again for the next Mythfits Monday. Yeah, nothing creepy though.

Jonathan Moffett (29:14.296)
We don't want any creepy videos. Well, maybe I do. That'd be hilarious. Anyway, stay weird, MithBits. Stay weird, MithBits.

Jonathan Moffett (29:28.814)
Pioneer.