R Sin: welcome back to sense, sensibility and chaos. The podcast that believes your home isn't cluttered. It is a curated museum of emotional decisions.
Busy: I'm busy. Somehow. I've become a collector of different honeys. You make one comment about honey, and all of a sudden everyone is bringing you honey from their trips from around the world.
WellRead: I'm well read. I used to collect bookmarks. Hundreds. Some were from places I'd never been, others were gifts I refused to use because they were too nice.
WellRead: I still have them.
R Sin: And I'm tall, girl. I collect shawls. No one needs this many dramatic shoulder coverings unless they're in a period drama or trying to fake being cold at brunch.
R Sin: I just have them.
WellRead: Hi! Ladies!
Busy: Hello
R Sin: Hello.
Busy: Today we're talking about. Why do we have a a thing that we collect.
R Sin: Because things exist, and you cannot just leave them behind.
Busy: And how to.
WellRead: And some are shiny.
Busy: Oh, we're just basically crows with feet and legs.
WellRead: Correct.
R Sin: Yeah, I mean, do we recognize faces like treats?
R Sin: Yeah.
WellRead: Yeah. The only real difference is the approachable thumbs.
R Sin: Like, wish we could fly away
R Sin: out the eyes of our enemies. Like, I don't I? Yeah, I got no problems being called Crow.
Busy: In a collection of called the Murder ugh!
Busy: Dreams.
Busy: So where do we think some of our collections started.
WellRead: Oh, I can I? You know it's funny. I I don't have a ton of memories from my childhood, but I can remember where most of my collections started.
Busy: Alright! Go ahead! Deep! Dive.
WellRead: Okay, so it was a certain
WellRead: time period. Do you remember everybody collecting like crystals and cool rocks and stuff like that?
R Sin: Yeah.
Busy: You know some people still do that.
R Sin: I was. Gonna say, there are stores that cost billions of dollars.
WellRead: This is true, this is true, but it was a certain time, like it was in like
WellRead: a scientific box that you could get at a museum, or a.
R Sin: With the tumbler, or just the set.
WellRead: With the Tumblr.
R Sin: Yeah, yeah.
WellRead: Yeah, like you would polish your own gemstones and stuff like that. Yeah, I can remember I was in 3rd grade.
WellRead: We went to the Natural History Museum.
WellRead: and this was one of the things that
WellRead: That was in the Museum gift shop, and I bought myself a small kit and I never looked back.
R Sin: I have tumbler envy.
R Sin: but I think I made a smart decision, and my parents made an even wiser decision, because I would have polished every rock in our driveway. Had they actually given like, we would be the power company for the energy I consume polishing every rock in our driveway. So
R Sin: I have complete tumbler envy. But I also, I realize my parents made a wise financial decision, denying me a tumbler.
Busy: So how long.
WellRead: I can totally understand it.
Busy: How many rocks, or do you still have them? How did it expand.
WellRead: I have some of them.
WellRead: I have some of them. I
WellRead: got rid of the majority of them in a move after college.
Busy: You got rid of your.
R Sin: You just you just dumped it.
WellRead: I did. No, I donated them to places like jewelry makers and stuff like that.
Busy: Okay, that makes me feel better and less abandoned on behalf of your rocks.
R Sin: Our listeners can't see, but we can see each other on camera and visibly panic attack. Faces were like you just tossed.
Busy: You. You love these things and just gave them away.
R Sin: Whoa!
WellRead: You know it was
WellRead: I was moving into a much smaller space.
Busy: No, I get it.
R Sin: Space didn't have any crevices, crevasses.
Busy: So what used to.
Busy: Unfortunately not what made you decide? One rock was more worthy for your collection than the other.
WellRead: Uhm, like what was my criteria back in the day.
Busy: Yes. Yeah.
WellRead: Okay. So it had to be an interesting shape.
WellRead: Or texture like I had this one.
WellRead: I think it was creosote.
WellRead: It was called that was like it was Lacey looking.
WellRead: It was very cool.
Busy: Yep.
WellRead: That was pretty much it.
Busy: I feel.
WellRead: Criteria.
Busy: I feel very like. I don't believe I didn't know this, and I assume.
WellRead: How often do we talk about our childhood hobbies? It doesn't happen very often.
R Sin: We got a, podcast I mean
R Sin: great for the listeners. But we're bonding on whole new levels with or without you guys.
Busy: Like we talk daily, and this never came up.
WellRead: Yeah, for us .
R Sin: But there are missed opportunities. I could have brought you shiny rocks, raw.
Busy: Are you going.
R Sin: One of them.
Busy: Are you okay with
Busy: interesting like? So if it was a rock from like a volcano or a rock from some place in the world where you can't easily get to.
WellRead: Yeah.
WellRead: yeah, I actually have a couple of pretty cool rocks still with me. And that was how I really decided that I I would keep them was that they had come from somewhere.
Busy: Okay.
WellRead: I had been or they have, like a special memory attached to them, whatever. But yeah, I've got
WellRead: kind of pebbled around my room.
WellRead: These rocks are just. Yes, I pebble myself.
Busy: I'm sorry you what yourself.
WellRead: Pebble.
R Sin: It's not dirty.
WellRead: It's not dirty. It's just I. I place little rocks around my room.
R Sin: You know, like conquest, and spring a pebble to their beloved.
Busy: Oh, my God! You're my penguin! Oh, I didn't.
R Sin: Like that. She's so like not trusting of like this sounds dirty.
R Sin: Why does this sound dirty.
Busy: I just thought it was more of a like a.
R Sin: At herself when she's naughty.
Busy: No, I thought it was like a psychology term of like a certain type of behavior. So that's why I was more trying to understand that.
R Sin: Social media is pebbling like you sending people. Tiktoks is actually now referred to as like pebbling. Because you.
R Sin: if we
R Sin: something you value to like some like. I love you enough to send you 20 Tiktoks like that's pebbling.
Busy: That is both my love and I'm board and not board.
R Sin: I only send you things I find like highly valuable. I don't waste people's time. Oh, I know.
Busy: I cut back. But I'm saying I'm bored in my life, not because of what I'm sending you, but because I'm on
Busy: social media sometimes so much where I'm wasting time or disassociating.
Busy: Yeah, yeah. Therefore, you benefit by my pebbles. But I do enjoy that. I'll open up
Busy: Tiktok. And like all of a sudden. There's like you have 17 notifications from tall girl, I'm like, Oh, Jesus! And
Busy: I'm fine.
R Sin: They have value. There's a reason
R Sin: it's so much better than sending it to you by text to be like, pay attention. I'm like, I will put this over here, so if you never look at them.
Busy: So they're all collected in one spot. No, that's fine.
R Sin: Eventually you could one day just watch the entire reel of everything.
Busy: I just wait. And then I just don't want to think.
Busy: Hi, well, that is interesting. I did not know that.
Busy: Yeah. So.
WellRead: Now they tend to be. If I'm going to get a rock, it's gonna tend to be a carving of some kind.
Busy: Oh!
WellRead: I've got one from the Inuit people in Alaska.
Busy: Okay.
WellRead: And I've got like a
WellRead: I forget what rock type it is, but it's a white white rock from China.
Busy: Cool.
WellRead: Yeah, got a bunch of different stuff.
Busy: I could have brought you rocks back from my trip.
WellRead: You could have.
Busy: I did not know this.
R Sin: I'm sorry.
WellRead: You brought me back other things, delicious things.
Busy: I brought you back after the bookmark, so that worked well.
WellRead: You did, and you know what. It's not a rock, but it is Seashell.
Busy: Yes, there is. There was shell in the design.
Busy: That was part of what I liked it, because it was not only the design itself carved in the wood. But the
Busy: the shell in it, I thought, was pretty.
WellRead: It's very pretty, and it kind of fits.
Busy: Yeah, I figured books.
R Sin: I'm just saying she's your lobster, and yet you gave me rocks.
R Sin: Okay, love somebody more.
Busy: Wait? Who got.
WellRead: Different routes.
Busy: What, what rocks did she get from you?
R Sin: Actually, she sounds wonderful.
R Sin: We've been on walks where she's gotten me rocks. And I
R Sin: I choose rocks. And I okay, I'm worse. I'm worse than well read.
R Sin: I not only collect rocks, but shells, leaves, and, like
R Sin: naturey thingies I find along the way.
R Sin: like I have an acorn with a tiny little cobweb in it.
R Sin: That's doable
R Sin: like seashells, but because of the shape like some of them, naturally break into heart shapes or something.
R Sin: I have, like the whole curio cabinet of them, from a lifetime of them.
Busy: I did not know this either. Well, that listen.
R Sin: Mom, but like on a bitter level, I used to give her these things to hold.
R Sin: She did, in fact, not hold them.
WellRead: Well, you know, I think you could hold it over her head now, and like maybe give her dinner late 1 hour a night or so.
R Sin: Son of, I'm saying
Busy: Or I.
R Sin: The feel. It's the texture, it's something I'm also the worst person to take a hike with, because all I will do is look at everything else on the hike trail. But
R Sin: but they're pretty like, okay. When we went to the Saugerties lighthouse, and I found the little branch that looked like a Platypus. I'm never getting rid of that.
Busy: I don't remember this.
R Sin: I have a photo. Okay? When I had Facebook, I have a photo of it on. If it was my profile photo for a while, like I'm I'm never giving up that little piece of branch. It looks like a platypus.
Busy: Do you label them.
R Sin: No.
Busy: Okay.
R Sin: I label sand.
R Sin: I collect sand in little spice jars, so all the beaches I've gone to I have like a clear
R Sin: bottle of sand.
Busy: And then what if you're unable to bring the sand back because of
Busy: ecological restraints or restrictions from that location.
R Sin: I haven't been to the Galapagos yet, but I would just, you know, like roll my clothes in the sand before I left, and then just collect what came out of my suitcase, which is not.
R Sin: I'm not like the jerk wads that get off the trail in National Forest and take the pine cones that they're definitely not supposed to be taking.
Busy: Or like the the people, the tourists who go to beaches in Hawaii and takes stones and rocks, and then they always have bad luck and problems in life don't touch the thing, but I know I'm happy that she gave you a rock, that that is something that you 2.
R Sin: Giving me rocks. They are piled in my office. You have.
Busy: I can rocks.
R Sin: Yeah, you did. You walked a river with somebody, and you came back and you.
Busy: Oh, okay, yeah. I remember that. I don't. Okay.
R Sin: Have them. I will never get rid of them.
Busy: No, that's fine. Okay, I didn't. I forgot about that. So at least. But that makes me happy that you you guys pebble each other with pebbles.
Busy: So.
R Sin: I didn't know about wells.
Busy: Alright! See learning!
Busy: This is
Busy: mumble, mumble years of knowing each other, and we could still keep it fresh. It's like a marriage.
WellRead: It's true.
Busy: But with rocks as our date nights.
R Sin: Can we have a rock off.
Busy: Now that sounds dirty.
Busy: That's.
WellRead: Sounds like something we did in college.
Busy: I mean, when she was talking about buffering her rocks.
R Sin: I just know that if I ever have unlimited money I will have a tumbler room.
R Sin: I've seen people do it on Tiktok. That's probably why I 1st really got addicted to Tiktok is, people have tumbler rooms, and I mean they sell it. It's a whole business kind of thing, but I come back from my next video and I've been tumbling them for 2 weeks. I'm like you think I have that kind of patience, lady.
Busy: It's like. Don't threaten me with a good time now. The the thing I had when you you mentioned the museum I didn't buy it, but it was given to me. One of my aunts used to work at the Museum of Modern Art.
Busy: and one of my birthday Christmas. Something gifts was this.
Busy: you make your own archaeology, archaeology.
R Sin: Archaeological.
WellRead: Archaeological dig.
Busy: Thank you. And so it was Egyptian, so I had it like it was a Styrofoam square, and it was kind of like a clay
Busy: texture, which
Busy: felt weird? But then you would dig through it, and you would get different pieces, and you have to clean them off gently, and then you clean, then you like, clean it, clean it, and then you were able to put it together and paste like glue it, and then paint it
Busy: so if if I'm.
WellRead: I remember seeing those.
Busy: Yeah, that was like hitting into my Egyptian, and, like ancient civilization, love like.
Busy: if we could find a place where you could, where they let people do like archeology, gigs.
WellRead: Oh, they do!
Busy: I that's.
WellRead: If any of you hit Lotto, and you wanna know how to really like blow my socks off.
R Sin: A place in Jersey you could. There's they're always finding like shark teeth that's in this river like.
Busy: Shark teeth is not really what's driving me. It's not.
R Sin: But low level for for the budget we're currently rocking on.
Busy: No, no, that's fine. I'm I'm down with that that. But then that could be more like a
Busy: my love of dig and teeth are not necessarily, I don't know. Are you guys here for teeth as well.
WellRead: Not really.
R Sin: I think the 1st
R Sin: one I ever found, like my 1st sand dollar. Before I knew what it was, I was like. This is cool, and that mom's like the other beach is going to be full of these, like, it's like, Oh, okay.
Busy: Well, that's good.
R Sin: So what's the 1st thing you collected.
Busy: I honestly.
R Sin: Egyptian thing.
Busy: No, the only thing I could 1st think of
Busy: like where I actively made the decision to collect. I had a book of quotes.
Busy: and I remember the book. It was like a blue notebook, like a hardcover
Busy: book, no bigger than a half an inch thick, but like a dark hmm!
Busy: I've I shade of blue.
Busy: but not too dark, and it had floral design on it, and I would just write down any quotes that I saw
Busy: are heard sometimes there's something from a movie, sometimes it was from a book, sometimes it was.
Busy: and sometimes it was my own quotes. I was impressed with myself, but I just had a book, and I would write down quotes in them.
Busy: and I did I do anything with it? No.
Busy: Did I go back and and try and use them. And, Nope, I just had them as something of interest to me.
WellRead: See, I have things like that. I have no books that I've had for years and years and years, with quotes and poems and
WellRead: other stuff.
WellRead: But I kept all the notebooks.
R Sin: You threw out the rocks and kept the notebooks.
WellRead: And kept a notebook.
R Sin: How your apartment had room for books, but not
R Sin: I feel like I'm not gonna let this go.
Busy: No, you are really dumb. This is but I mean like, listen! If if she had to make a choice, if.
R Sin: It rocks.
R Sin: It's a rock.
R Sin: Even if the house burns, the rocks would remain. It's it's the more tangible of the collections.
Busy: I feel like you're taking this personally.
Busy: Oh, my God, no!
Busy: You're on the same. Invite.
R Sin: Behalf of my oddball collection. I'm I'm warning hers.
Busy: Alright. So in our compound you 2 could have a rock wing.
Busy: and you could put the rocks and the seashells and everything. You could break it up, you could have it by like landscape where they came from in the world. You could have them by rocks in one and shells in another, or however you want, and then you could have a tumbler room. That is my gift for you, too, like I hope you have that, and are very happy.
R Sin: It. Just it needs to be across the hall from the Ceramics room, and then, like the craft and fiber room, which is just right next door to the Canning Caddy area.
Busy: We basically need.
R Sin: I know, honey.
WellRead: And I've.
R Sin: We're gonna need Idaho, just one of those abandoned towns.
Busy: I think we need a this, an old school house, or or
Busy: something like that, where they have classrooms, and each classroom is a different thing.
R Sin: Did you see somebody on Tiktok? They did. They bought a high school. They've been slow
R Sin: revamping it like, Yeah.
Busy: But I thought they did it, for like making it into housing for people which is brilliant, but and like.
R Sin: Family that's actually like live living in it. There are other ones who are rehabbing it. And then there's also somebody who built like a or bought a Shriners
R Sin: building like it's massive. It's like 4 floors. I'm like.
Busy: So.
R Sin: That's a lot of house. That's a lot of house, but maybe see the point.
Busy: The being pro being proactive, and not letting all the crafting take over and spill into our daily life. We could have the compound, and then there's separate from them regular housing we have somewhere else on the property a crafting compound where it's all the fun. There, that's a little bit separate so that it doesn't become
Busy: chaos.
R Sin: I think we need a rule, like every 30 days you have to leave an assigned compound and move somewhere else for your own mental health and our.
Busy: Mean, just get out. I mean, we could have a a natural
Busy: floor, wing, something, and tall pink rocks, seashells, stuff of that nature, sand.
R Sin: Once a month you need fresh air to touch grass, and then you can go back into your.
Busy: You should be doing that daily. You can't.
R Sin: Okay. But have you really imagined fully what the ceramic.
Busy: Cool.
R Sin: Compound will look like I mean.
Busy: You know we'll do much like a school system will have a bell system in installed that tell goes off every couple of hours and remind you, hey, poke, poke! You need to be a human.
Busy: Go.
R Sin: Very mole like, you know, your nails have grown out. You're incredibly pale and malnourished like we need you to.
Busy: The pale I already have. We're good with that.
WellRead: But yes, that is still.
WellRead: Never be as pale as I am.
Busy: I don't know. I'm always supposed.
R Sin: I like that. We're having a lack of melanin off right now. But
Busy: Cool melanin is something we don't seem to collect.
R Sin: It's true. The one thing we're never really gonna be good at collecting. We've got something on the list.
Busy: When I was young I I could, and I can tan I just it's the bugs outside. I avoid them and humidity.
Busy: Do any of us have an unhinged collection phase?
Busy: I mean not to.
WellRead: So.
R Sin: Some of this sounds a little unhinged.
R Sin: not unhinged, but I do have every kinder toy I've ever gotten, not the American kinder eggs with the toys inside.
R Sin: European. Kinder eggs have superior toys always have. They've gone down in quality over the year, but I have every kinder toy I've ever gotten
R Sin: ever.
Busy: Yeah, somewhat.
R Sin: Consider that remotely unhinged, I.
Busy: Hmm! I would be possibly one of those people. It's like keeping the toy from a
Busy: happy meal or something.
R Sin: Oh, those are crap! Those are absolute crap!
R Sin: I I'm not saying that there's
R Sin: except once when Anastasia came out there was a bar talk bat
R Sin: and the bar talk bat like said, Hello, sir, there's your eyeball like I I basically broke my bar talk.
R Sin: I was a I was a grown up, the things I learned.
Busy: How about you all read anything unhinged.
R Sin: I've never actually seen the film. I just absolutely love the voice.
R Sin: I have no idea movies about.
Busy: We'll deep dive on that offline to help you.
WellRead: Yeah.
Busy: What were you saying while we're in.
WellRead: So yes, I went through a phase where I would specifically buy magazines and newspapers and
WellRead: other things that were related to a specific TV show which will shock nobody who's listened to this podcast before. And I would cut them out
WellRead: and collect them on like little poster boards and make my own books.
Busy: Oh, okay.
WellRead: Make my own fan, books.
R Sin: I don't have them.
WellRead: I have one.
R Sin: How many were there?
WellRead: Many.
Busy: 10, many, or like 20, plus many.
Busy: Oh, it's more than towards the 20.
WellRead: No, it's it was probably probably like 10 or 12.
R Sin: Were they like, I'm just imagining, like, you know.
WellRead: Like maybe an inch thick.
Busy: Oh, okay.
Busy: no. I was thinking, like the photo albums of like the eighties nineties that your grandparents had, and
Busy: they were like stacked. And you just pages filled with cutouts.
WellRead: No, that would have been a smart way to go.
Busy: Okay, good. Good. Good. See, this is the problem that you didn't know me back then.
WellRead: Yeah. My life was clearly lacking.
Busy: Sorry.
R Sin: My life, against your.
Busy: I'll get into my Delorean and see if I can go fix half.
Busy: Okay.
R Sin: If you're ken go pick up the rocks, save the rock collection.
Busy: Like young Red. Well, Red, give me those rocks, and then you'll then you'll just have an issue. I, now that you said that it made me think I did go through.
Busy: I am a big fan of I love Lucy and Lucille Ball.
Busy: So I went through a time
Busy: Before I I had my house, but I and people, because they just knew I love the Isle of Lucy. They had just gave me things. So I have like a TV guide magazine. And I had that framed
Busy: tall girl actually had on one of her trips. My gift when she came back was
Busy: a friend of our friend or a relative of our friend painted me.
Busy: not knowing my favorite scene and episode in I love Lucy of when she's telling Ricky they're having a baby and painted that. So I have that painted and
Busy: framed.
Busy: I went on. I have the most odd things. I've had people bought me pot holders and tea towels. I had
Busy: a battery operated can opener that did the vita veeta vitamin spiel
Busy: I had stamps. I still have them, but, like some of them, are like Russian, I think, like they're just from all over the world. Random stamps that I've had framed
Busy: I do have, though I haven't done in the past couple of years.
Busy: In addition to my Christmas, like the main Christmas tree, I have mini trees.
Busy: One I had from with my New York sports team
Busy: items. A second one was from when I lived in Texas, and the 3rd one, which is my favorite, though, is my I Love Lucy, from all the ornaments they had back in the day.
Busy: and so I have a big pink like rhinestone, not rhinestone.
Busy: I don't know. That's not rhinestone. It's that's too blingy, but it sparkles heart.
Busy: What.
R Sin: Diamante.
Busy: But it's like a heart that I have as the like. Quote Star at the top of the tree. And
Busy: I have, you know white lites and all the
Busy: things. So I would say, my, I love Lucy books, the movies, the Dvds.
Busy: It also comes from when I was a child and I think I would hang out with my grandmother and my 2 aunts between
Busy: preschool whatever and they all were. I love Lucy Fans, and so we would watch together. So it was from a nostalgic family bonding moment. And there's so much with her. That is just so classic.
Busy: you know. Understand that I think she was the 1st woman to have a production company, or, you know, be considered co-owner of a production company. She's the reason
Busy: my Star Wars, not Star Wars, Star Trek.
Busy: 8 like there was just a lot of things.
WellRead: Lucille Ball is the reason for fandom.
Busy: There you go!
WellRead: Because the original fandom was the Star Trek Fandom.
Busy: There you go.
Busy: So yeah, so I would say, my unhinged ish phase is my I love Lucy stuff and have metal. I have a metal like or like one of those metal signs you would see like
Busy: you can see different ones. I have one of those
Busy: fact that I've never dressed up as her is kind of surprising. Oh, Funko had those! They had dolls a few years back, Lucy, and they had one in black and white, or a couple of black and white. I have those.
Busy: I had my guest room at the time, which is not a guest room at the moment, but I had. It's all in black and white.
Busy: and my balances. The curtains on my windows were black with white polka dots, because she was a very big polka dot dress wearer, and I've been looking to capture a right style phone that they had in the episodes so I could have that on the end table. I haven't found it yet.
Busy: I'm looking for like there's a black style that I really want to get and to collect within. I have a big, fluffy, big heart pillow
Busy: that went on the black or dark gray. I had betting
Busy: to go with it like a splash color against the black and white
Busy: frames. Yeah, that's my unhinged now, now that I realize it, that is my.
WellRead: These times. You've made fun of me for the X-files fandom.
Busy: Oh, no, no, no! I knew I was a fan. I just kind of forgot
Busy: how much stuff I have. But here's the thing I don't talk about it all the time.
R Sin: Well Read doesn't talk about X-files all the time.
Busy: It comes up you would think it's a show that hasn't been off the air really, that long as it has. And yes, I know that there were seasons recently. I am aware.
WellRead: Yes.
Busy: The defense. My God!
R Sin: Look if AI brings back. I love Lucy. I feel like there'll be no shutting you up so.
Busy: I wouldn't want them to, because.
R Sin: We don't want AI bringing anything back. But you know AI and Hollywood are going to force us into.
Busy: I mean if if my when my one friend was pregnant and she was giving birth to her 1st child.
Busy: we didn't, you know she was. She didn't know when she would give birth, and I can't remember. She finally went to like plan to go in, and then hope they would. It would happen.
Busy: But we were. We were reciting to each other the day of the episode when they were practicing to when Lucy went to have the baby. So we're messaging each other. The time has come. Go.
Busy: And so that was, that's how incorporated it sometimes gets.
Busy: What about you?
Busy: Tg, anything unhinged. Besides.
R Sin: Thankfully. Mine are mostly socially acceptable, because either they're like free things from a nature trail.
R Sin: clearly the paintings. But if you call them. Wall, Art, you get a whole pass, even though my entire wall, plus the crates next to it, are full of it.
R Sin: To me.
Busy: Yourself is more than just paintings, because it is. There are some things that yes, they go up on the wall, but they're.
Busy: I don't know like they're not painting or so.
R Sin: Oh, no, I have other things, too. I have like a vintage fishing lure like there's a paper mask, there's a wooden mask. There's.
Busy: So for you, for me it comes across as art.
R Sin: It does. But I mean it's a collection, only it's like an except nobody is like, Oh, you're art hoarding until you have, like a shipping container full, but even then, like it's a financial investment.
R Sin: Luckily, I've chosen the one that gets a pass, and then I collect little brass figurines and bells.
R Sin: again. They're tiny, but I find them adorable because especially the Victorian ones, are actually really detailed or absolutely stinking adorable and then I just tuck them in places in the house, because
R Sin: who doesn't need a tiny little brass woodchuck because life is better with them.
Busy: I need photos of these now.
R Sin: Oh, they're they're not like obvious on purpose.
Busy: I know, but I'm obviously telling you I want to see them.
R Sin: I'm a
Busy: Because I'm learning they're important to you. So I want to understand them. Damn it.
R Sin: They're in happy places unexpectedly. Fun places.
Busy: Okay.
R Sin: Okay, I think that's that's mostly it. Like the random, shiny objects, the brass things, the art, the shawl.
Busy: Oh, yes, Charles!
R Sin: Well because of our sorority. I have a collection of turtles which I find cute, but it was really because of our sorority.
Busy: Okay.
R Sin: Some of them are pretty, but I certainly had.
Busy: We had a lot. That is true.
WellRead: I still have most of my troubles.
Busy: Yeah.
R Sin: I mean, like, I'm just. I'm glad we stopped at like, okay, we've graduated no longer. Do we need to like gift each other turtle stuff because it was getting to the point of like
R Sin: I have one. It's a turtle, but it's a loofah, and somebody gave it to me, and they're like, Oh, don't use it, though, like, just keep it. I'm like
R Sin: we're we're now stretching really far for anything that's remotely.
Busy: So there are times when I've seen things
Busy: past college that are turtle. And if it's something that would be incorporated into
Busy: okay, if like it was like, let's say, the bookmark. I got well read, and it was a nice design with a turtle on it that I wouldn't feel is so weird. But I'm not buying her just turtle.
R Sin: No, we pez it was. It was aggressive at a certain point it was like, Let's just
R Sin: let's stop now.
Busy: Now, is there a time when we say that this is
Busy: a collection versus clutter? Is it sentimental trash and emotional hoarding like? Where's.
WellRead: So I think tall girls, examples of the socially acceptable collections.
R Sin: Oh!
WellRead: Versus versus it being clutter like
WellRead: It's clutter to anyone that the collection isn't meant for.
Busy: I think, also depends on how it's displayed, too.
WellRead: Yeah.
Busy: I think sometimes from my person. Now, I'm a person who's very. There's really nothing on my walls.
Busy: and it's not because I don't want things on my walls. I have ideas, but I haven't been able to find the right way to execute. So until I know how I want them and where I want things to be. I'm not gonna put things up. I know a lot can't stand.
R Sin: That's fine!
Busy: Blank walls, but sometimes for me, when it seems cluttered, is when it's
Busy: it takes up so much space that there is not a lot of space.
Busy: And it's.
WellRead: That's fair.
Busy: Everywhere.
R Sin: It's also like, if it it's like when a picture is slanted, it bothers you because it's slanted like if you hang stuffing up, and you don't like it. You're going to hate it infinitely more than waiting.
R Sin: like I don't think.
WellRead: It's true.
R Sin: I've ever collected something trendy like I was never on Beanie babies, you know. I've never had 90 dolls of any collection kind of thing like.
Busy: No.
R Sin: There are ones that are like, oh, there are future investment like the Boo boos right now. It's just like.
Busy: No! Get out of here.
R Sin: But it happens to every generation like Pet Rock was the last one that was like. So you just paid for a rock.
R Sin: and then from there. It's just kind of like.
R Sin: but I think it's like ours are more something that mean to us over time versus like, Oh, well, I bought it because of a trend. And now.
R Sin: like you don't want to throw out your Beanie babies on the off chance. They might actually someday be worth something like the people who still hold out like. It's not a collection it's hope for clutter of. They have no attachment to it. It has no meaning to them.
R Sin: except, you know, $10,000 later. They're kind of hoping.
R Sin: maybe, that Princess Diana one really will come around one day and be worth 80,000.
Busy: Oh, God! I forgot about that.
R Sin: I mean, it happens, like every 1015 years there becomes that. You know
R Sin: that toy, that everybody collects something like
R Sin: weirdly, kids are supposed to collect it, and then adults go a little overboard on it, and then it just gets aggressive.
Busy: And is there any? Do you have time? If someone told you both today, you need to stop
Busy: doing collecting what you're collecting.
R Sin: Living, life, no.
Busy: Okay, see? I don't have that reaction, Tom. Someone told me today I couldn't. Well, I haven't done the quote things in years. So that's.
R Sin: Yeah, but forevermore. You can never write down another quote. You must hear it and forget it never, ever, ever. And you also, like you can't use it again in a sentence.
Busy: Using it again. The sentence might be hard or so, but.
R Sin: Okay. But like for you, because it's words, and it's whatever like you can hear it. You can love it. Then you gotta like it's dead to you.
Busy: Yeah, the honey thing.
Busy: I think like, if I only had to buy one type of honey because you use it and like for teas, and all like to drink when you're sick. I would be fine. With that I enjoy the different types, because I enjoy
Busy: pacing the difference from around the world in different places. But I could do it now. And I think, Yeah.
R Sin: You also have enough honey that you, if you don't collect anymore, you'll make it to the end of your life. Given your current honey.
Busy: They're not like gallons people give me. They've been like little like sometimes they're like a.
WellRead: Grounds, charge.
Busy: This?
Busy: What was that?
WellRead: 2 answers.
Busy: I love Lucy. I could do without having to buy anymore if someone told me, you can't buy anymore. But okay.
Busy: and it wouldn't affect me.
R Sin: You can never watch an I love Lucy episode again.
Busy: I think I would be better. I I could survive that
Busy: because of the fact that I've watched them for so much
Busy: that they just start to play in my head, anyway. So till you get in there, which good luck it's scary.
Busy: I would just
Busy: you could.
R Sin: Only well, because you do kind of you have a collection of spices, but you can only cook with like salt and pepper and paprika for the rest of your life
R Sin: is, you are attached to your spices, and how old your spices are, and the rotation of your spices so like, while your collection naturally refreshes.
R Sin: I feel like you do have an attachment to your spice cabinets.
Busy: I don't think of it as necessarily an attachment to just spices so much as I like to cook, and
Busy: based on where I'm cooking, they enhance it. For example, during the pandemic I made
Busy: why, I was confused. I think it was Gumbo
Busy: Embo's the one with the rice is on top of it. Correct.
R Sin: Yeah.
Busy: Not mixed in. So I made Gumbo, and I believe it was. If I'm saying this wrong apologies that FILE. The seasoning used in.
R Sin: Cool.
Busy: New Orleans Arab, so I wouldn't make this Gumbo recipe.
R Sin: And.
Busy: I had it shipped to me to try and make it as authentic, or get a vibe of it, even if I didn't like it. I want to try it. So that's where that comes into place. But in general the cooking and you just want to do salt pepper, I'm like.
R Sin: Like you care about them the way we care about our X-files posters like.
Busy: Yeah. But if you don't have seasonings.
R Sin: Yeah, but like you can replay, and I love Lucy in your head. But, like bland mashed potatoes for the rest of your life, I think, would have.
Busy: Salt and pepper you could deal fine with.
Busy: I it's it's not ideal.
R Sin: Yes, no, it's better than nothing. But like.
Busy: It's.
R Sin: Every bite is like this could taste like enchiladas, it tastes like sorrow.
Busy: It's like sadness.
Busy: No, but I don't see that as a collection, though
Busy: I get rid of them without a problem.
WellRead: So, yeah, that's that's fair. I think that
WellRead: it is one of the more socially acceptable things, though.
Busy: Hmm.
WellRead: Versus like toy collecting? Or what have you.
Busy: Yeah, I don't want to be one of those. Look at as I tell people I am white.
Busy: but I am season your food. Nothing has raisins in it kind of white.
WellRead: No, I'm practicing.
R Sin: Nonprofit like
R Sin: you like the taste of places. You haven't been. So. The honey that tastes different from somewhere different like you haven't been to Turkey, but you like the flavors of Turkey, you recreate the dishes of Turkey. So for you, it's like a travel hobby collection in.
Busy: Oh, yeah, that's my my enjoyment of traveling. That's my Venn diagram of
Busy: the Venn diagram for me is you have a circle for cooking a circle for traveling photography. I really wish I had a better ear with languages. I'm gonna work on that Sunday. I really wanna do languages.
Busy: and that's where that all overlaps into one center circle.
R Sin: I will say I do. It's not an intentional collection, but it's collected by other people like the vintage Pyrex dishes and the corn flour, corning ware. Kind of stuff.
Busy: Smart.
R Sin: I just like them better. But they are highly collectible. But I'm like, just know, I'm buying this because I'm going to cook with this.
Busy: Yeah, honey.
R Sin: But, like the vintage percolators that work better than any others, I always have an extra percolator like backed up because 1950 percolators don't just like happen
R Sin: So I do technically have what might be considered clutter. But it's also like a backup, because
R Sin: this will eventually fail. And also this will eventually not exist, because the people who are currently clearing out their homes were the original owners of the 19 fifties percolators like, if if I don't buy it now. It's going to go in the landfill, and then it will never be again. Kind of thing.
Busy: I don't do.
R Sin: Have, like the Pyrex balls, and people are like you use them. And I'm like.
Busy: Yes.
R Sin: Yes, that's that was their.
WellRead: What that's what they're for.
R Sin: They're still like 70 years later, they're still here.
R Sin: fully functional, not lead-based, not plastic. Yeah, damn skippy. I use them. Are you kidding me.
Busy: I could put them in the oven.
R Sin: And they them in a volcano, and they would survive like these. Are you can't.
WellRead: Well, not for nothing but collections, or
WellRead: whatever we want to call them.
WellRead: The average American home contains over 300 individual items.
WellRead: So everybody's a collector.
Busy: 300 or 300,000.
WellRead: 100,000 individual items.
R Sin: It's like, there's no way 300. That's like a Kardashian situation like, oh, no.
R Sin: Yeah.
R Sin: Yeah. I mean, okay. Granted, like our grandparents had like 3 dresses and one Sunday dress, and now we have.
R Sin: 20 sweaters easy. So like that 300,000 count plus busy spice cabinet really does get you to the
R Sin: I mean, it does make sense, but it's also like we've just gotten used to like we. We don't just have a fork. We have a whisk, and then we have, like an omelet whisk, and then we have like, especially in the kitchen. I feel like that's the fastest place
R Sin: to collect accessories.
WellRead: Oh, yeah.
Busy: But that depends. If you're a cook.
Busy: because I have friends who they enjoy cooking, not to the maybe craze level, I do
Busy: on trying different cuisines. So they don't have all the the items that we work. So I think it's also
Busy: I'm not gonna have all the tools because I don't normally do home improvements on my home beyond basic
Busy: items. So I'm not gonna have.
Busy: Actually, I do. Because the previous owner was an electrician. So there is a beautiful workbench in my basement. One day I'll organize again.
Busy: but it's like I didn't want to take it. They're like, well, we can take it. I'm like, no, leave it. How I'm gonna use it I'm not sure but it's there.
Busy: But yeah, I think that's fair. It's how do you have anything that when you go on traveling that you mentioned the sand, how about you?
Busy: Well, read anything from traveling.
WellRead: something that's interesting to me, not anything in particular, but sometimes it's jewelry, sometimes it's
WellRead: a rock, sometimes it's a book.
WellRead: yeah, it. Whatever kind of takes my fancy that particular trip is what comes home with me from.
Busy: For me. It's become in recent years
Busy: a pair of earrings if I find one I like, and a cookbook from that area.
Busy: So even even within the States I've gone to like Philadelphia had found
Busy: for a weekend with a friend years ago.
Busy: and found, like a Pennsylvania Dutch like Cookbook.
Busy: and when I went to Belgium I bought one, and then a friend. At the time she went back a second time with her, because her family was from there. She brought me back this little like pamphlet cookbook about fries
Busy: or freaks, and so like that's something that I've you know Ireland.
Busy: I didn't find anything in New Zealand.
Busy: Australia. I have a book that I bought
Busy: so I like to buy cookbooks to bring back the flavors
Busy: from when I'm home. So then I'm still able to travel from the my own kitchen.
WellRead: I've got. I've got some cookbooks from different places sometimes. That's what takes my fancy, too.
WellRead: How about Utah?
R Sin: They're little tiny snow globes.
R Sin: You actually gave me one from Alaska, the what again?
R Sin: Like 2 inches 3 inches tall. They are like, right on the edge of cute and tacky, because, you know, like they're mass produced kind of clay.
R Sin: little tiny snow globes. They're like 2, 3 inches tall.
R Sin: I find them adorable. I
R Sin: I don't know why they're getting harder to find like they're less for a while, like everywhere you went had one, and now they've kind of stopped a little bit
R Sin: or like truly tacky, tacky travel tchotchkes.
R Sin: I don't know why the the tackier it is, the more I like it.
R Sin: Oh, well, Rod got me. It's a little totem pole that holds toothpicks.
R Sin: I still use it. I still have it. I love it so much.
R Sin: but she also bought me a necklace with my initial on it, and I put it in a shadow box because I find it too pretty to wear. So it was like, I love this.
R Sin: It will never touch my skin, which is right. Next to another pendant she gave me, which she embroidered. So it was like, they're lovely. They will never see fresh air again. They were just permanently preserved like, have worse tastes going forward. Don't.
Busy: I I feel like these are also just going on your altar, that she has, that she.
WellRead: I mean, with clipping of my hair.
Busy: I was gonna say, with a piece of your hair.
R Sin: Then
R Sin: tiaras and unicorn horns, because that's been a birthday thing for years. So I have a collection of tiaras and unicorn horns.
R Sin: But that's like mainly birthday nostalgia for every.
Busy: That is true.
WellRead: I also do greeting cards.
Busy: Okay.
WellRead: The greeting cards that people send me.
Busy: Started to keep like some of those from people
Busy: My mom has in the past. I don't know.
Busy: 1015 years. She doesn't like to travel much, but she loves to see where people have gone and hear about it.
Busy: So it's asking people to send postcards, and it's she'll just
Busy: people started to just send them to me, and she was like who and and she has the thing that she has to know who went on the trip. Let's get written on it. And what year or month, you know.
Busy: see? Like someone people written a note on it like we went here, and
Busy: but she's fine, and sometimes they just show up in the mail. She's like, I have a postcard from
Busy: Matt. I was like, Oh, yeah, I asked him to send you a mail. She's like, all right. Who's this person like? Oh, that's my friend. I just asked him to mail you postcard, and she has
Busy: books of them, and they used to be all over her wall at work, but she put them into a book
Busy: and keep track.
Busy: Well, you know we all.
WellRead: That's a nice one.
Busy: Yeah, so.
R Sin: Okay. Well, I think this is the lovely place to stop collecting words for our podcast
Busy: I think you did there? Oh.
R Sin: Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
R Sin: That was off the off guys.
Busy: That was so slick.
R Sin: So that's it for episode 19. If you guys have ever said I'm not collecting it. I just happen to have 47 of them. This one was for you.
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Busy: Next week we're peeling back the lies that TV told us.
Busy: such as large apartments in New York City being available to pretty much everyone.
WellRead: If you enjoyed this rate review, or send it to someone whose collection might be slowly overtaking their entire living room.
R Sin: Until then stay sensible.
Busy: Or embrace the chaos.
WellRead: Preferably both.
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