[SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody, J.J.

[SPEAKER_02]: Cooper, Josh Norson, our base polymer, a Capacast.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is AFL roster announcement day.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know anyone more excited about that than Josh, because Josh is our resident AFL expert AFL not pretty much, I would say that if you could make bottle the AFL and make it go on 12 months a year, Josh will be there happily for 12 months a year.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you would be eating

[SPEAKER_01]: I would be 500 pounds, but I would be eating grill every day and going to the same, you know, riparian preserve every day because I'm a creature of habit.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Ivan, I like to call myself AFL fan number three behind Tony Rigsby, the Durham Bull's PA announcer who does PA for Scott Stale and surprise and Bill Mitchell are correspondent slash photographer who has been, I believe, all of them and is in Arizona, so he's gets to see as much or as little as he wants of the fall.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's usually as much.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he can take a day off if he so chooses and I am there for usually between a week to two in this year, I think it's 10 days or so or 11, whatever it is that there's an off day in there.

[SPEAKER_01]: But Mike by my count, I'll see 20 games before I leave.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, and that's where we wanted to dive in, which is where it's going to jump right into it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So Josh, we see the roster's now.

[SPEAKER_02]: All of them are over at baseballmer.com.

[SPEAKER_02]: but who are you most excited to see?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you'd asked me 48 hours ago, we started getting hints of this roster.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would have to give you a different answer, but it's Daniel Espino.

[SPEAKER_01]: and it's not really close.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was a late edition from what I hear and you know he has not pitched since April 29th, 2022 and that's a long time.

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of things have happened since then, but him pitching is not one of them and you know I wrote it today I didn't even realize how nasty he was

[SPEAKER_01]: He had struck out 35 hitters in 18 and the third innings before that start and was in double lead.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do remember is there was one spring day in that year, 22, where Jim Callis Keith Law and myself were all in Arizona at the same time, but not a different place.

[SPEAKER_01]: Keith, if I remember correctly, what to see Maddox bronze pitch.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he sounds like he was really good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I went to see Jack Lighter pitch and he was really good.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jim Callis went to see Daniel Espino and I forget the quote, but he raved about him.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we all that day thought we saw future high-end pitching prospects.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, far Lighter is surprisingly in the lead on that one, but yeah, the noise coming out of spring that year

[SPEAKER_01]: And he'd carried it into the season.

[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, it's been, like I said, like almost coming up on three years, or three and a half years, look at it since he's last pitch.

[SPEAKER_02]: I will say that at that time, when you say like he was really good, there were starts for him, where I remember exactly I wasn't there, I wasn't at his start.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember watching on M.I.L.B.TV, where I remember exactly where I was, it was so notable that it was like,

[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, I watch Kings every day.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell you that I remember most of them.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's hard to say when you're watching, you know, games every day that's like, oh, this gives it no.

[SPEAKER_02]: Daniela Spino had a start against the Orioles farm team.

[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe Del Marva, whoever it was.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was in double way.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was in Booy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it was against Booy.

[SPEAKER_02]: one of the best pitch games I've ever watched him.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now again, well, they're in person, but he was utterly in control, utterly dominant.

[SPEAKER_02]: And now what we're going to see had shoulder injuries that had sideline to him as you said, for the remainder of 22, 23, 24, 25.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, it would be crazy to think that you will get to see him and he will just look just like, you know, he just walked off the mound in 2022.

[SPEAKER_02]: But this is gonna be fascinating to see like, okay, is he close to that?

[SPEAKER_02]: Is he anywhere close to that?

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, yeah, I mean, once again, I've got to learn to maybe not always stay on the east side because surprise is going to be a destination for me this this spring when when he pitches and we'll talk a little bit more about that roster later, but yeah, he's going to be really exciting to watch.

[SPEAKER_01]: There was another prospect added today.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's also like a guy that I wasn't expecting to go the least paralysis with the red socks.

[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, in Greensboro, one of his last start before moving to Delay, and he was utterly filthy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I have the enough to two best pictures that day we're going to be Luis Parallez, and again, in Luis Parallez, and Parallez got to the big leagues fairly quickly, but Parallez had Tommy John surgery shortly thereafter, and has been missed the entire season.

[SPEAKER_01]: This year, so this will be his first time re-emerging at least in a

[SPEAKER_01]: Send my public setting since the injury, and he will be, you know, one to watch as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: I forget which team the red socks are on, but that team will be really interesting as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that leads right into second question I had for you, which is, and I, you said, what roster, which roster most interesting to you, you kind of mentioned surprise, which I always love going to surprise.

[SPEAKER_02]: I always love going to the west side.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and only partly because there are usually f-35s in the pattern flying overhead.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a nice little bonus.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a really good roster.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not my favorite ballpark is from a purely video perspective.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's tricky.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can really only get the high angle unless you go down stairs and do it a little cave.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that's a little inside baseball for you.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's got to speed up on the roster.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's really interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote today.

[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of interested to see what the reliever Matt J. Check looks like.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a really interesting slider that I want to say, I got 50 something percent with rate.

[SPEAKER_01]: I should remember this.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote this this morning.

[SPEAKER_01]: The fillies sent a lot of there guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: They sent Dante Norie who's had a really good year, Aiden Miller, who's come on strong Daniel Harper who's a reliever to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who they've talked about really highly for the last couple of years.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's also just kind of back from Tommy John and pitch really well in the regular season this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: They also sent Joey Danielson, who pretty interesting to the lever.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jeff Ponds wrote about him and his backstory early in the season.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and Sebastian Walkpot, that guy's pretty good too.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's up at him.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's a number 10 prospect and baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be fun to watch day and day out for that club.

[SPEAKER_01]: Should you just keep going here chase the water?

[SPEAKER_01]: Who is on his third turn in the fall league?

[SPEAKER_02]: So let me ask you that.

[SPEAKER_02]: What is I mean again other than spying healthy?

[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's just catching up on that Bats probably but what is success for chase the water because I do feel like We don't really have a whole lot of remaining questions about taste the water is the hitter.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the remaining questions of Kenny stay healthy and I don't you know that's one that was a little surprised to see coming

[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't, but, you know, that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: He just needs to make up at bats.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the jump from the minor leagues to the big leagues is harder than ever, because of the way the minor league system works right now, and he just doesn't have the reps yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you told me this guy was starring in the post season next year for Cleveland, I wouldn't be surprised if he's day's healthy.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, this is two years with surprise in one year for Peoria.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, so it's it's unfortunate, but I'll take advantage of it and see him again.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody, oh, Josh Adam chef ski who made noise in the in the spring and then again at low the low levels of the brewer system, but he did get hurt.

[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, shoot all three catchers.

[SPEAKER_01]: are really interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Malcolm Moore didn't know the year he wanted to with the the Rangers, but also was injured.

[SPEAKER_01]: Blake Mitchell saying deal, he was pretty he was injured this year and showed a lot of potential in the last couple years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Marco didn't just, I hope I'm getting that right, um, was a really, he's one of those guys where like, Scouts will tell you like, don't lose side of this guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I understand, you understand that, you know, Monet and Peña

[SPEAKER_01]: you know, the twin peaks of that system, but didn't just, he just hits the ball hard man, he just hits the ball really hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: And as far as I know doing that consistently is a funny way of getting you to the big leagues, especially if you play catcher, at least, you know, to use a fake word crumbulantly.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we also haven't even gone to the fact that,

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking through, but you're a bitter, bigger AFL historian expert to me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin McGonagall is our number two prospect in the game, and he's headed to the AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's happened before, but it is not often that you see a prospect who's one of the top two or three prospects in the game, head to the AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's also one that stands out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it stands out for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, I don't remember if we were on number one going.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was really holding out hope to the pirate to send counter-griiff and press Harper.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, I don't remember if that wasn't around for it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that same team had trout.

[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty.

[SPEAKER_01]: Harper's probably the best AFL outfit we're ever going to have.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: I could probably beat that, but no, I'm kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is in a lot of cases.

[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see some guys who don't necessarily need their reps.

[SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Eldridge came there last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he went from, it was low aid to AAA by the end of the year.

[SPEAKER_01]: And didn't miss much time at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: But he was there for the first couple of weeks, working on his defense.

[SPEAKER_01]: But they sent him regardless.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not always all guys.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's not 18 airs last year and Bryce did cut that significantly this year first base so it did help.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, but it's my point is it's not always the guys who need more reps.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not super surprised to see a mechanical, especially because the tigers are usually pretty aggressive with sending their best guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like there are something that do something that don't, but the tigers are in the class of guys who they said they're best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing you just hit on there is if you are planning to go to Phoenix, if you are going to the AFL, like Josh,

[SPEAKER_02]: One thing with these rosters is, is do understand you just meant to like with Bryce Eltrich, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: These rosters turn over.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a snapshot of what the rosters will look like, week one, week two in a lot of cases.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess I just offer the reminder, like if you see a player on this roster that you really want to see,

[SPEAKER_02]: There's no guarantee he's going to be there for the entirety of the air though.

[SPEAKER_02]: Some cases they are, but in other cases, it will turn over.

[SPEAKER_02]: It will change over because sometimes, you know, again, a player gets banged up a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're often going to go home.

[SPEAKER_02]: If a player only needs a couple more weeks, they sometimes will go home, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like last year, you know, Nick Kurtz was in the fall of last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see him except to like say, oh, there he is.

[SPEAKER_01]: But as he played weeks four through six, weeks one through three was Henry Bolton.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, sometimes they do it like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And there will be surprises.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like Carlos LaGroné, our known track.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Tony O'Gomans last year from the Yankees.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't remember him being on the roster until like he showed up one day.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the heck is that who I think it is?

[SPEAKER_01]: and it was, and there's also, it was a report out there yesterday that I haven't seen it on the Russia right now, but Griffin Cohnine of all people from the Marlin is going to be doing this.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes big leaders will show up to, to really have, you know, the minor league season is largely done, and will be, even further done by the time the opening

[SPEAKER_01]: references a thousand times that there was a rumor a bunch of years ago that all the albums was going to show up and take his hacks during a fallie.

[SPEAKER_01]: We had I think Kyle Schworberg came one year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler O'Neill showed up.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of an interesting test that you don't expect.

[SPEAKER_01]: There was a bit of leave your last year too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well Christian and Karosh and Strand was I think I think yeah I'm thinking of Christian and Karosh and Strand.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was there the entire fallie getting.

[SPEAKER_01]: he didn't count as a prospect.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of gives you kind of set the stage, but we wanna go a little deeper than that.

[SPEAKER_02]: We wanna look at some of the prospects that aren't in the top and we have 10 top hundred prospects on the roster.

[SPEAKER_02]: All position players, not a surprise on that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Although as Josh noted, there are some pictures who were added, Parallel as a spinole, are very interesting pictures who've been added.

[SPEAKER_01]: Parallel is active in the top of the menu.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he has this.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, as a spino has to, yeah, as spino, we did have to move him down when he has to.

[SPEAKER_01]: We have some game, JJ, to look at our staff roster and see how many people were employed by BA the last time a spino pitched in a game.

[SPEAKER_02]: You and I were both here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I know, and I know Jeff was, because I remember talking to Jeff because Jeff was watching that Akron versus do we game at that same exact time and we were talking.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, we're going to go really inside baseball here for a second.

[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel, let's be no pitched.

[SPEAKER_01]: Happened to be our draft guy Carlos Pilagos wedding day.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if you know anything about baseball America, there are more than a few people who work for the guardians who also have worked for baseball America.

[SPEAKER_01]: And one of them was at our table.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I said to him, hey, I'm really excited because I was scheduled.

[SPEAKER_01]: I budgeted it out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to go see Espino's next start, but which was enrichment.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, so how excited should I be about going to see this guy?

[SPEAKER_01]: And he gave me a, I don't know about that,

[SPEAKER_01]: Does that mean, and then like the next day he's on the aisle and never been heard from again?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's really inside baseball right there.

[SPEAKER_02]: But so we're going to cover some of the other non-top 100 prospects that you want to keep an eye on in the AFL right after Squidbreak.

[SPEAKER_02]: And we're back.

[SPEAKER_02]: So Josh, okay, 10 top 100 prospects.

[SPEAKER_02]: Daniel Spino, Luis Pross, former top 100 prospects, already covered them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Who are some other non-top 100 prospects?

[SPEAKER_02]: Because the vast majority of AFL players are not top 100 or prospect.

[SPEAKER_02]: Who are some of them that people should keep an eye on?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you had asked me about the player, I'm most excited to see before today, it would have been greater the railroad of the race.

[SPEAKER_01]: He is also, by coincidence, not really that good sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: The youngest player in the following,

[SPEAKER_01]: number just just a few months younger than Ethan Salas.

[SPEAKER_01]: The thing about Guerrero with Rey's fan or a prosperic fan of any kind is you know that he cannot stay healthy.

[SPEAKER_01]: He had 50 games this year and that was by far the most of his career.

[SPEAKER_01]: But when you talk to scouts who have managed to see him, they put some very, very, very loud comparison done that.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very excited to see him, especially with the offense about the side, I think he's going to be, this could be a breakout party for a brand like their way out of him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just, I won't even say the names of the guys who you can compare to because it's silly.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, you said he, he didn't get to play much this year, so like the reports this year were a little bit less He did and they were mainly last year, but that doesn't mean that they went away this year It's like when they said the little less heated, but probably that's because again, he was not that helped you this year

[SPEAKER_01]: I found guys who saw him in the DSL and I think he played like seven games, so I don't know how I pulled that needle out of that case stack, but I did, who else am I excited to see?

[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that stands out to me about the non-top hunter prospects is you have a piece that's 12 interesting players who are in the AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: I always, you are Mr. AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: My concern with AFL, almost without fail, is the pitching that's going to be there.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's always a good selection of hitters, but pitching lies, some teams are very much not willing to send, and understandably, anyone who pitched a full season's not going to be a AFL, Jenna, you will see exceptions to that.

[SPEAKER_02]: But if you pitched a full season in Europe prospect, they're not sending you the AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: You've already done your work for this year.

[SPEAKER_02]: But this year seems to have a nice group of pictures who for whatever reason, you know, our prospects and our head into the AFL.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and it's funny.

[SPEAKER_01]: You said this, I don't remember any of the 12 guys that I wrote this morning.

[SPEAKER_01]: but there they are.

[SPEAKER_01]: But Carson Millbremt, for example, is a guy who's very interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's very hilarious, first of all, we talked about the Marlins with the before.

[SPEAKER_01]: He is clearly on the rise, especially in terms of pitching, Robby Snelling, Thomas White, Carson Millbremt, Kevin DeFranck, a guy like that who are lurking all up and down the system.

[SPEAKER_01]: Millbremt, Spike, and I wrote it, and I said, you know, now he needs to throw strikes

[SPEAKER_01]: Last night he threw six, he had his 89 pitches for strikes, which, okay, so I added a second clause in there in the right before publication, so he's getting closer to that, but the stuff is dastardly, he's gotten a big deal of jumps on everything, and he's been pretty darn good all this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to see him, I'm excited to see everyone, gosh darn it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Wright, who I saw in spring training, and then he didn't do much after that, just because of injuries.

[SPEAKER_01]: Really interesting lefty with some on-lacious movement on this sweeper and that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty good change as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: We've touched on a spino.

[SPEAKER_01]: Tanner Smith went from the podries to the oral because the podries, the matter, how much they trade.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, always have interesting guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: Big boy with a big arm, and it'll be fun to watch come out of the bullpen this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, who else are right here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Henry Mendez, uh, who is somehow only 21, which is kind of in say barely 21.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is his second turn in the fall league and the song is the same as ever.

[SPEAKER_01]: He does a good job staying in the strike zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: He gets the ball pretty darn hard.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it often goes into dirt with a grass.

[SPEAKER_01]: The Indian grass.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would rather have that than he doesn't know how to hit the ball.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no question.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like, okay, you're, you've been a tease for a while and we'll

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, contrast that with the next guy in this list, Tony Blanco Jr., who has exit velocity up to 119.8 this year, which is really great.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, basically it's one of the hardest hitters in baseball, and we're not just saying the minor leagues baseball.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he can go blow for blow with Aaron Judge and Cal Raleigh and John Carlos Stanton and Shoheotani in terms of exit velocities.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am not comparing them to either of general.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not in terms of consistency of contact, but in terms of exit velocity.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, you know, the batting practice I hope I hope to follow you taking more batting practice this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Last year it was like one day a week and I kind of understood that from the grounds keeping standpoint of get these guys off my field for three hours a day.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well also, and the players like seem to want to not be, I know it's not as bad in the AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a bit summer there, but you're

[SPEAKER_02]: air-conditioned batting cage, you know, probably sounds more appealing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Point is, if you think it's a watch Tony Blanco take B.P.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to go ahead and do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing about filming B.P.

[SPEAKER_01]: is you don't often see with the ball of votes.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're trying not to get the guy out of frame or get hit in the face as I did in 2015.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Lord of Scurry, El Jr.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he's going to put balls into orbit there in ways that we haven't seen since well, since host wait for Staniot just a year ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's all that way back to the last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, keep going on this list, Sean Lanyon, Sean Paul Lanyon as a filthy change up that I wrote about earlier in the year, uh, Parks Holomer with the Giants, who came over from the Yankees.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's the living snott out of the ball, not a little push about where he's going to play outfield, or if that's going to translate into the upper levels, but, uh, so far, proof is, you know, he's, he's proving himself and he's hitting it hard and he keeps hitting it often.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh,

[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen a lot of these guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: David Hagenman, who came over from the rainhorses to the Diamondbacks and the Merle Kelly trade, has really done in my stuff and I might have under sold them a little bit just because a lot of people stuff looks done in my, if you're a college guy in the Arizona complex league.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, you know, if you have any any off speed pitch, you can execute, you can really do some damage there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned Matt J checked already, anybody else on you.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think we touched on everybody on this list.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's 12 guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, before we wrap this up, I do also want to ask something that I think I've asked you before, but it's also useful for someone who didn't hear this last time I asked you, which is, so explain to a fan.

[SPEAKER_02]: who hasn't been to the AFL.

[SPEAKER_02]: What is the AFL like?

[SPEAKER_02]: I've been to multiple times, but I'll let you, but you've been more games than a AFL than I have.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what do you, does it feel like spring training to, you know, like, for a field, does it feel, like, backfield games, does it feel like regular season, minor league games, or what does it feel like to you?

[SPEAKER_02]: What is it about, that makes the AFL kind of special?

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there are two different questions.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dry Florida State League games.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to make sure to code it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not many people go there.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's scouts people like me

[SPEAKER_01]: wives, family members, what have you, and children looking for baseballs.

[SPEAKER_01]: I call it the Arizona ball league because if you wanted to take your Phoenix area elementary school class and say, this is P.E.

[SPEAKER_01]: for the day and just have them run back and forth on the con course, getting baseballs.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what some kids do.

[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see kids with like 12 baseballs in their shirt and just run it around see.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you four baseballs for a bat.

[SPEAKER_01]: and it'll be all sorts of weird baseball partoring, but it's different than like spring training because you do have a PA announcer, you do have the jumbo tron on, you do have, it's on the big fields, but

[SPEAKER_01]: nobody really goes.

[SPEAKER_01]: You'll have crowds unless you have Tintibo playing.

[SPEAKER_01]: You'll have crowds in the hundreds.

[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes even less than that, which is surprising me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm different and we're all niche here at BA, but I'm liking it too, and I know Briss looked this.

[SPEAKER_01]: I call it three future games a day.

[SPEAKER_02]: It depends on how many people have had some discussions about that because the future is against what am I great moments of the year and I'm like now the pitching is a little better than the future's game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but I mean I can't really deny that but hey these games are going nine usually and it's true although sometimes they go seven the triple header and two's on this year are going to be three sevens but you know

[SPEAKER_01]: You might not have to star value pitching, but you are going to have pictures that you don't know the names of who are going to pitching the business, and they are going to get big outs in the big weeks.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the other thing I would note with this is there are players who are here for a multitude of different reasons, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them are here like we'd talked about because they've been injured and they need to make up for lost time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them, it's because there's years where it's like, okay, we need this guy to work on his defense or work on defense at a different position than he's been at before.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it's, you want to kind of give a child a chance to do a different role to kind of show what he can do in a different role.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I think also a part of it, and I've got a story, I've got to work up to get, you know, get this up.

[SPEAKER_02]: And a number of players are, it's like, this is kind of your final decision making point before the rule five draft, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: You will see that that's a lot of these guys quite frankly.

[SPEAKER_01]: The rosers are pretty old.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a piece coming out tomorrow about the 10 youngest guys in the lead.

[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of them are, and there are some 90s babies in here, which is kind of crazy to say.

[SPEAKER_01]: And these are guys who are auditioning for their last chances on to get to make a 40 manner to be exposed to rule five.

[SPEAKER_01]: And some of these guys you'll find eventually and play out both hands, I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: My go-to for that for whatever reason is Alex Bessia.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was in the following one year, and I'm sure hardcore Marlon's fans at the time knew who he was, but I didn't, and he's made a pretty good career for himself, as it really really bounced around a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the sexiest name in the world, but it's better than, you know, we all expected coming into the fall.

[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't exactly a known commodity.

[SPEAKER_01]: But it'll be fun to look at after the fall lead to these, like, I think one of the stories I generally do is like, the nastyest pictures I've seen.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not even like a data quantified sort of thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that you can go through enough film.

[SPEAKER_01]: You see some really nasty stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't necessarily pop immediately.

[SPEAKER_01]: But there are some guys with some stuff out here.

[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned Hayden Harris earlier, man, I think that guy's going to get.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, uh, they got some in the playoffs for the Braves some day.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had liked him when I saw him there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Perkin from the guy who wasn't on a whole lot of radars, uh, whenever whatever year he was in the fall, and he, his stuff jumped out of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, this is, oh, uh, another one, Braden Net.

[SPEAKER_01]: Two years ago was, uh, who the heck is this guy?

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I just one scout told me he was the, like, the best picture he saw all year.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he got moved to the A's in the, uh,

[SPEAKER_01]: make some Miller deal because I'm going to soapbox around here when you hire lots of scouts and good scouts they tend to find these hidden gems.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do a lot of speed-lumping without a pickaxe and I tell them that the glows were to EPMD so yeah my rant there is there's some guys here we don't know about I don't know about the

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that will pop up in the fall.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's one of the really fun parts beyond, you know, going to see, we didn't even mention Alfredo Duno here of like, uh, good catching.

[SPEAKER_01]: He had a bull horn of a season in the Florida State league.

[SPEAKER_01]: He, as I wrote, he led every offensive category that didn't have to do a speed.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, he didn't lead in trouble.

[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't lead in slow and bases.

[SPEAKER_02]: not not surprised if you've seen Alfredo do know who is truly to me one of the largest humans I don't know what it is about him but when I've seen him in person multiple times it always how big he is and I don't mean in a I just mean in a massive human kind of way like he is a truly massive human and stands out yeah I mean I'm talking to someone who's not having to fronk this year that's a large human being

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's what we just wanted to lay out that that basically the Arizona Fall League is right around the corner October 6th, I believe.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I will be out there the fifth.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get it hopefully.

[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a couple of instructs games in addition to the Fall League.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, 20 games in, well, not big.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not, it's a bang to the buck there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking forward to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's the tail end of my season.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's the real last time you turned the page before a handbook season begins.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be in all the next season.

[SPEAKER_01]: You get your last gas is the winter meeting, which I don't know if I have season.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if I have season, what are meetings you didn't get to paddle around with your buddies and this year, I think, Disney?

[SPEAKER_02]: It's one and all of a sudden, I'm guessing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ron and Dolphin.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, Spawn has been in Delphin.

[SPEAKER_02]: But so that is our AFL roster release preview.

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