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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey everybody, another issue.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Another addition of the baseball America Hot Sheets show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It is myself, JJ Cooper, along with Jeff Ponce, and Hayesus Cano, and we are talking rookies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We're talking co-ops, we're talking rookies today.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because here we are.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We are now at the point where we are the the the twenty twenty five M. I. L. B. season regular season is over for rookie ball for low-way for high-a for double-a.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Another week of AAA, but really we're kind of bearing down the major leagues now because that's where we still got plenty of action to go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: In addition to we'll talk a little bit about postseason and minor leagues as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The blue jays have a certain rookie, a certain starter making this debut, and I would say that you have been watching tray-assavage kind of all the way up through his college career to the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Here he is, I think one thing that blue jays, but I think fans in general want to know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So what should we expect when tray makes his debut tonight against the race?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I think number one, the biggest question for me kind of going in that I can't answer is how many innings or how many pitches he's really going to have initially they've kind of limited his starts to sort of like one time through the order.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe, you know, 12 to 13 sort of played appearances somewhere in that range.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Over the last couple of weeks, it could be because they're going to save some innings up for his savage, you know, for the stretch right here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think more than likely he's probably going to start some of these games, stretch out, give shape, or some of these other guys, because they do have a fairly older, more veteran starting rotation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So getting those guys, so I'm extra rest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think also

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, potentially handling some bulk work here and there could be on the playoff roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think still one of the biggest questions with this BlueJs team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have reinforced it somewhat since the deadline is the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can add some strengths there, but I think the really exciting thing when it comes to your savage is just straightforward with the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a real over the top arm angle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of an unusual, almost like catapult sort of motion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What that does is it generates a lot of ride much more than the average arm does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that, you know, Ellie Ben Porot or Carl League and does a stat cast standout so you're at a little bit about your savage this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he made a really good point that I sort of want to,

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[SPEAKER_02]: focus on here because I do think it's something that you're going to see quite a bit, especially early in this starts when he tends to leave with that fast bulb of sort of force setting up his secondaries and that is it is a really high arm action So there is an element of expected ride when you see a guy who sort of you know over the top like his savages that said he still generates such a high level of ride that hitters are not used to seeing that and he does hide the ball well

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I think you're going to see a guy sitting, you know, mid 90s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We always know what some of these day views guys are jacked up and juiced up, so maybe he's a few ticks above, um, has maxed out this season at 96.7, it wouldn't shock me to see him hit 97 or 98, uh, average this season, this is throughout all levels of the minor leagues and he's played it all of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: twenty-one inches of induced vertical break with a heavy amount of cut so not a lot of arm side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's straight over the top profile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're really interesting thing now about him and with his secondaries is he throws a slider, he throws a splitter and he throws a curve ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: None of his secondary pitches move glove side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Neither of his breaking balls move glove side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: From time to time, they'll be a little bit of glove-side movement on the slider or a curve ball, but they actually have like arm-side run on both of those pitches, which is super unusual.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sliders, a little harder, more of a high weedies, almost sort of cutter type of pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The splitter, if this go to bread and butter, that's been since he was at ECU.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a plus secondary offering and a big swing in this pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he'll mix in a curve ball as well,

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[SPEAKER_02]: since he was in Dunedin, he's only thrown about 30 curveballs this year, so really interesting look that it wouldn't shock me if the first time line up see him if they struggle with him a little bit because he is so unique in comparison to other arms that are in the game.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You hit on this a little bit, but I still want to ask you the question kind of a little bit more explicitly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is the Blue Jay's team that is going to the postseason.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And if you said to me right now, like, what are their concerns that I would have if I'm a Blue Jays fan on the Blue Jays front office?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's somewhat, okay, what's, how's this pitching going to shake up?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kevin Gospen, we're good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't think there's any concern right now with how he's kind of fronting their rotation.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you kind of look at, okay, do we have enough arms in the rotation that swing in Miss Arms?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do we have enough swing in Miss Arms that we can rely on in the bullpen?

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[SPEAKER_05]: is how much do you think this is potentially, like, okay, this is a couple of innings, get his feet wet, you know, to go into 26, or how much could this be an audition to maybe be a factor of some sort in some sort of role in October?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do think that this is reinforcements.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's just an audition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're battling two teams in the Red Sox and Gankies that just have not died off or really fallen off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It all especially here down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're both within striking distance within division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think especially for the BlueJays when you consider

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're strength being the starting pitching that they have and having so many veterans that can give you really quality starts in a playoff series.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they want to get that first round by.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to be able to go into a series where they don't have to play a single game playoff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's you know, the shorter series for them are just, you know, not going to be in an advantage So I think this is all hands on deck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is simply one of the best players that they have available to them

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's reminiscent in some ways of David Price with the raise when they made that run and believe it was in 2008 when they first called him up, it was kind of out of the bullpen and as needed a guy that could air it out that was unusual to get swings and misses and they had no concerns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that he didn't have either majorly quality stuff or majorly quality command, which I think are two things that you savages just shown in AAA, but really threw out his entire professional career thus far and even last year at ECU.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is a guy that went toe to toe with chase burns against

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[SPEAKER_02]: a better lineup and wake forest and out pitch burns in a big moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they know that he's ready to sort of handle these kind of moments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, for this team, I think it's maybe an audition a little bit, but I think, you know, it's to help the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the reason that he's up right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a good chance that, you know, he could be on the playoff roster as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I will also say he did pass the IQ test as this tweet here lays out and the ops are shutting down for the season.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Go to the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He decided to take this chance to go to the big leagues, which I will say can imagine, but you know, anyone who said nah, I think I'm good here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm shutting it down.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's been a long season.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Head and home.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, that would be failing the test.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a very important test to pass.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Pretty easy one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a, that's something open booktests there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But speaking of that, we have another top prospect who also was presented with the opportunity to join the Big League Club.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And at a couple of weeks ago, it was said, okay, if Bryce Aldrich is coming up to the Giants, you'd have been saying,

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[SPEAKER_05]: is this to just get a taste, you know, a sneak peek as we were saying to get ready for 26.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Nowadays, no.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Nowadays, I would say, hey, the giants are still in the playoff race, credit to them for bouncing back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so they're bringing in reinforcements.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And what you are getting here is

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[SPEAKER_05]: There are some other concerns, we'll get into those.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But hey, Zeus, when you talk about Bryce Aldridge, you are talking about a guy who honest, can hit the ball about as hard as anyone in the game, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% and I think it's also fitting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm based out of Phoenix and he's going to make his debut here at Chase Field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will definitely be going down to Chase Field to go watch and make that debut, especially having seen them on the back field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dirty this year when he was going through a rehab assignment, he was playing an extended free training and you hit it right on the nail, JJ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you look at this guy 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way he's built.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right, you know, you mentioned about, you know, maybe a couple weeks ago, you know, would have been for experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually covered this in our September College story as hopefully you'll player the CS Collup and that all came into fruition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you see where the giants are at in the position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you, you don't call up a guy like Eldrich Furt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, for experience, but also there's something more beyond that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who's going to give a lot of impact at the bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Heart of the lineup, position-wise, you know, playing first base, being, you know, could be at the H2, depending what they want to do with Raphael Devers and that whole carousel of infillures that they have going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you just look at the swing, you look at the picture, ask motion that it really delivers in the corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: quality of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is a guy that's going to make a huge impact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, there's this, you know, pretty exciting color for the giant's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just the unexpected turn that they've taken as the, you know, a state chase that postseason spot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You hit on it also though.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's also going to be one of the youngest players in the big leagues when he comes up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I would say more than a tray of savage, more than some of these other prospects who we've seen have just come up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would say that this is not a finished product yet to Bryce Eldridge's credit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's made big strides this year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, one of those that I've brought up a couple of times that is kind of almost crazy to bring up with the first basement, but first basis

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[SPEAKER_05]: Bryce Eldridge was unplayable last year, 18 errors last year, and really even April of this year, five errors in April of this year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: His hands are not good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is a two-way player who kind of the general idea was that this was going to be a dominating pitcher until very late in his amateur career.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That has gotten better.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's been, he is now pretty reliable there first base, but if you're talking about how's this gonna work, if he's playing, I would say it's probably gonna be more devours in first base ideally, and him at DH, then vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But Jeff, the thing that does jump out here, 95.0 mile an hour, average EV, since he got to triple A. That is tied basically for the highest in triple A.

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[SPEAKER_05]: the guy named Roman Anthony, if you look at guys with a hundred or more at bats, played appearances in Triple A. This is, there's some swing and miss here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There are some holes that probably will, he'll always have because he's one of the biggest players.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He'll be one of the tallest players in the major leagues.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But when he connects, he also could, yeah, if he could set

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, granted there was a guy named Barry Bonds that probably would have said all these stat cast records if we had that data and those tracking systems available to us, well, he was still playing in that park.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, you know, it is a tough place to hit the ball out of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we know that he has the kind of power that there's no parks in the world that are going to keep this guy in, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he has the ability to connect as you said, you know, when he really catches the barrel, he is the ability to put the ball 430 feet on a consistent basis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The miss hits that sort of thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think are really going to boost him especially in that park where it's cavernous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he can run a little bit too bigger guy in the sprint speed is usually pretty good once he's underway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe home to first times that sort of thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to blow you away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But longer strides, all that sort of thing, he's going to hit a lot of doubles and a lot of triples in this part too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: With how hard he hits the ball, some of the power alleys there, and his ability to hit some of those gaps too, weird carams off of that brick wall, etc.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the upside here, just in terms of what he could produce from a slugging percentage,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the skills are going to be a question mark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be a lot of swing and miss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that he's a guy that could run especially early on, like a low 30s, high 20s, sort of, K-rate and be really, really successful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just needs to make that amount of contact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those guys where the power and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the ability to backspin the ball, the approach, all that sort of stuff is there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he's making enough contact and he's passed sort of that threshold that you need to be successful in the major leagues, he's gonna be really, really successful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I think, you know, right now, they lose their first baseman and Dom Smith.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is an opportunity for, you know, Eldridge to sort of while he picked that job and just run with it and, you know, be the first baseman for many, many years to come.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You mentioned that there is not a whole lot of tougher places to hit than trying to hit the ball to right field at a oracle park.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's loosened out where they're together.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They have a park at Papago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're backfields in Arizona that is set to those dimensions.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And we just see it kind of in a minor league park type setting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It really kind of jumps out to you just how far it is, especially to right center.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But Bryce Elders, one of the few players, said that's like, okay, it's still only going to affect him, but he can hit the ball out of a pretty much anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If, again, if he makes enough contact, I would not throw him a whole lot of fastballs if I was a team facing the giants or next couple of weeks, because the man can really, really drive a fastball.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to dive into speaking of rookies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and we are back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it has been a really solid year for rookies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey Zeus for us is actually gotten the check out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You said you're gonna check out Bryce Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Got to see some of the other rookies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: One of those who's really stood out, again, going back to spring training me and you watching together, seeming like hitting, at the time, seemed like Nick Kurtz was hitting double after double after double.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's gotten to the big leagues and he's turned a lot of those doubles into home runs.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You look at what the A's have done this year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Nick Kurtz, Jacob Wilson, they're Denso Clark and there as well, but he's just with Nick Kurtz, like obviously, I'd say he's the pretty heavy favorite to be the A.L.

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[SPEAKER_05]: rookie of the year this year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But how comfortable are you that, how where does this stand to you as far as rookie seasons we've seen in the last several years?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, potentially one of the best, I mean, you've seen what he's been able to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, he over just this past week and it ain't that 493 foot bomb to center field in a West Sacramento, I mean, you just, you just, that's just unreal stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was the, uh, for this homework track and the stat cast era.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the powers legit JJ and we talked about this too in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, at the beginning of the season, Washington play on the backfields was the power was unreal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The swing was unreal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the body was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything about it was going all into play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually talked to Nick Kerch recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the biggest thing that he said that the ace helped them with and become in the player that he is was being himself being the same player that they drafted out of Wake Forest, who they had one of one on their board of the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They started preparing for the 2024 draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and be that player and we saw that streakiness kind of coming to play and that's the way he describes himself as a hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, we saw at the beginning of the year when he first got called that pretty quickly after tearing up AAA that he was getting hits but the power wasn't coming in and after he hit that first home run, it came in bunches and then at some point it came in the quartet when he went on that forehome or game against the Astos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean we're talking about one of the best rookies he's we've seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think definitely a for sure a lock for the AO rookie

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[SPEAKER_00]: more exciting players for years to come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's so rare for a first space only architect to have the profile that he has, hit for high average, hit for high velocity, and hit all over the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me to say, I mean, this is one of the best season we're seeing as an understatement, I think it's truly like history in the making that we're watching.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would say one of the things that is historic about it is that he's doing this when started last year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was that way for us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the best seasons wrote about this earlier this year at Baseball Miracle.com.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's one of the best seasons we've seen for a player of the year following his draft year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Bob Horner still wins the award for that because Bob Horner basically just jumped to the big leagues and was the best Bob Horner ever was, basically,

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think what might get lost a little bit in that Jeff, we flip it over to the National League.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's hard to imagine it's hard to explain why it would be flying under the radar at all considering that Kate Horton is a Chicago cub and it's not exactly a team that's playing in a back water that no one pays attention to.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But the season that Kate Horton is having is also one that's deserving of a lot of attention and one that probably really does stand out kind of like for what he's doing not just now but you know, to years to come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, you know, that's sort of the thing that you take a, take a step back and look at, you know, it's made 21 appearances 20 starts this year, you know, 110 innings, the strikeouts have been fine and reasonable, but, you know, he's really kept runs off the board, got fairly deep into starts, you know, has managed to limit walks, limit a lot of contact and a lot of hard contact, and I think the thing that we've seen in terms of this evolution of Kate Horton this year from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy that we saw the last two years I think in the last year was a bit of a throw away because he dealt with the injury and we don't really know how much that impact of the stuff early in the season and some of the numbers that we saw, but he really took that sort of 223 version of himself which was very successful and started to add sort of a full spectrum of offerings within his pitch mix and

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, adding, he doesn't throw it at a ton, but adding in a sinker off of his cut-ride fastball that doesn't miss a ton of bats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just gave him a different variation, a different look, a different way to attack left handers and right handers than he had previously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also giving him something that, you know, ran pretty heavily to the arm side, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the sweeper, I think took a step forward back to sort of what it had been previously sitting 83 to 85 miles an hour with a little bit of drop, but you know about a foot of sweep, which was up from what we had seen the first two years with him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the sweeper, both those pitches have 35 to 45% with rates against each and with grown fairly regularly and then has sort of a slider that he'll mix in from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of a different variation between the curve ball and that sweeper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think it's one of these things that we've seen a lot of this year, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always sort of a pitch, what it's the sweeper, it was the cutter a few years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was guys switching to sinkers last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This year, it really seemed to be pitchers showing a wide array of pitches within their arsenal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what's led to Horton having as much success as he's had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, for a potential playoff team and a team that, you know, frankly was looking for a starter to step up like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was Kate Orton.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this also project pretty well for his future in the next few years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think that things can change with the fastball shape, etc.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There could be more bats that eventually get missed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the one knock that you have on them right now is it doesn't miss a whole lot of bats with this fastball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the secondaries are all pretty good and he has two secondaries in particular that are performing like plus to plus plus pitches right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a 20% K rate this year, which is a little bit lower than maybe would have expected, but as you said, he's got it the full arsenal where it's working up pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do want to not ignore another speaking of Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kulson Montgomery, I was one of the ones earlier this year saying, I'm a little worried about Kulson Montgomery, he did get sent down to his credit, really did kind of...

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[SPEAKER_05]: fix it in all the ways and prove it at the same defense has gotten to be much better this year than the reports were a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's really been a key part, it's not a great white socks team, but it's a white socks team that looks a lot better than the hopeless team who we saw last year, kind of circling the drain.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is a team that

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[SPEAKER_05]: Starting to show a little bit of life here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Still a little worried about the K-rate long-term, 30%, you've seen as numbers kind of tail-off, it's very power-dependent right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But the power is absolutely legit, which is something, and we want to give some credit to Colson at Gummery there as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So Uncle Ted makes the point that kind of Lee early balled out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is the second Red Sox rookie who we've seen brought up in recent weeks, Peyton, totally obviously.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The other one, Jeff, you've been kind of you keep close track of the Red Sox for us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You've been noting how they're pitching staff just keeps, they've kind of really had some developmental wins, but what did you see from early?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it might even be at a point where this year we're looking at maybe some even bigger developmental wins on the pitching side with the red socks and we saw with their they're hitting last year and they're hitting development, which got a lot of discussion and I think you look at totally and just added a significant amount of velocity with early I think it's dated back a couple years this was a guy that initially came out of high school and committed to West Point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and played two seasons with army before he transferred to UVA, pitch there, and then eventually got drafted in the fifth round by the red socks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's been a slow build.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ever since you sort of came into the system after the draft, and then especially early last year, we started to get pretty positive feedback from Scott, just in terms of this guy as a deeper ray of bitches, like we talked about in the last segment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody that has, you know, the ability to hide the ball pretty well in his delivery, which I think is a massive part of deception that we

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[SPEAKER_02]: And always had great feel for the change up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always been a plus change up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it might get to a point where you might even call it plus plus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can manipulate it a little bit and have it look a little bit more like a splitter at other times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It will run sort of like a kick change up will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got feel for three different sort of breaking ball shapes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, knows how to land everything, and I think that's a big part of it is there is commands, there is control, he doesn't have the most outlier stuff in terms of spin and movement and velocity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But sort of isn't that average range that he needs to be on the pitch as like the fastball and that sort of thing where, you know, it's maybe not outlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a crazy sinker, it's not like his savages foreseen where it's riding 21 inches or anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: out of his slot, the plan that he creates is ability to command that pitch, and then sort of cascade or waterfall everything off of it, I think allows him to be really, really effective, and we'll give you a variety of looks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't be shocking to me for him to find maybe more success down the stretch here than totally does, just because it's just, you know, second full year as a professional, there's been some build-up, the lost piece held for a little bit, and all that sort of thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's a name to watch and the velocity really has picked up, which is part of what's made him such a breakout as a pro.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Fun Showed Again Today, hey Zeus and Jeff are hitting the road for us to see more games as we love to do here at Faith's Ball America.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for joining on the Hot Cheek Show and we will see you again next week.