00:11.805 --> 00:16.390 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, welcome back to the baseball, America, Fantasy Podcasts, your host, Jeff Ponce.

00:17.030 --> 00:20.934 [SPEAKER_00]: Live and direct from PNC Park in Pittsburgh.

00:21.655 --> 00:28.562 [SPEAKER_00]: Literally across Street for me went to the game out in assignment touring Western Pennsylvania and watching baseball.

00:30.102 --> 00:36.365 [SPEAKER_00]: Here with me today is not just Dylan White, of course, up there in Toronto, the People's Champ.

00:37.065 --> 00:42.607 [SPEAKER_00]: I also have Jacob Rudner alongside me on the West Coast, joining us.

00:42.847 --> 00:43.727 [SPEAKER_00]: What's going on, guys?

00:43.747 --> 00:44.208 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

00:47.489 --> 00:49.090 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm doing well, man.

00:49.270 --> 00:52.511 [SPEAKER_02]: It's always good to be a fantasy podcast member.

00:52.531 --> 00:56.552 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm enjoying my, like, sometimes a part of this role.

00:56.712 --> 00:57.393 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of fun.

00:59.643 --> 01:02.165 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just, you know, it's good to have the third wheel.

01:02.525 --> 01:05.748 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm bringing in bringing in as the third wheel.

01:05.808 --> 01:06.749 [SPEAKER_00]: You have a lot of knowledge.

01:07.089 --> 01:21.481 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think especially in the off season when we'll be talking more FYPD guys and, you know, catching up on maybe some names to know for next year, we do some open universe stuff and your avid fantasy player yourself.

01:21.582 --> 01:23.383 [SPEAKER_00]: So you kind of get the big picture.

01:23.543 --> 01:25.125 [SPEAKER_00]: But Dylan, man, what's that you?

01:25.205 --> 01:25.545 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you?

01:26.839 --> 01:33.964 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm glad I have someone to mediate when we're at each other's throats or arguing over the players, like we always do.

01:33.984 --> 01:39.529 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to have Jacob there to kind of be the, um, but it's meant to have final call.

01:40.859 --> 01:53.444 [SPEAKER_00]: It's right you're now you're now the objective third party that needs to break up our fights or whatever, you know, when we get into it, actually today we'll talk about two players where we have disagreed.

01:54.004 --> 01:56.485 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, it's always very, very simple.

01:56.945 --> 01:59.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Believe in, you know, that's what you say.

02:00.627 --> 02:02.528 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, Dylan is Canadian.

02:02.708 --> 02:04.729 [SPEAKER_00]: Even when he's mad, you wouldn't actually know where.

02:06.849 --> 02:14.113 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm from Massachusetts, so we're just always kind of yelling for the general and you're from California.

02:14.153 --> 02:17.275 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're you're you're kind of chill, but you're also still American.

02:17.755 --> 02:18.956 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's like a good balance.

02:19.056 --> 02:23.519 [SPEAKER_00]: It's I feel like, uh, it's very holistic, you know, got a little triangle.

02:24.299 --> 02:27.141 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man, there's a lot of Canadian blood in this family.

02:27.181 --> 02:28.682 [SPEAKER_02]: So I have my biases.

02:31.443 --> 02:36.746 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's true, you know, so maybe maybe that's what it is, maybe the ketchup chips fan.

02:38.766 --> 02:39.047 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

02:40.827 --> 02:44.789 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll Portuguese and the Portuguese they love their ketchup chips as well.

02:45.690 --> 02:48.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Mostly because a lot of them, a lot of them immigrated through Canada.

02:49.570 --> 03:13.362 [SPEAKER_00]: Little little little little known fact, but hey, let's talk a little bit of baseball, we're here to talk fantasy baseball in particular today we're going to talk 25 rookies, but looking forward into 2026 and just what the expectations are, whether we expect them to take a jump forward be more valuable or if you know their potential landmines a little bit too.

03:15.103 --> 03:22.257 [SPEAKER_00]: Not a stack, just maybe some of the rookie classes that we've seen over the last couple of years that were incredibly productive.

03:24.950 --> 03:43.915 [SPEAKER_00]: But nevertheless, there are quite a few names here at gonna be top, you know, five round picks in dynasty leagues, probably top one or two round picks depending upon where this conversation goes.

03:44.975 --> 03:48.016 [SPEAKER_00]: At this point in the year, I don't think we have to go through news and notes.

03:48.056 --> 03:50.716 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's just jump right into the topic, Dylan.

03:51.376 --> 03:53.077 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna kick it over to you on Nick Kurtz.

03:55.143 --> 04:04.469 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel as if this guy, you know, if you're in a 16 team dynasty league, I think he's probably going in the first round, right?

04:04.529 --> 04:10.833 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're drafting from scratch, a new dynasty league, that's what we'll go with these guys, okay?

04:11.453 --> 04:13.755 [SPEAKER_00]: How high do you go with net cards?

04:13.875 --> 04:15.996 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he a first rounder in a 16 team league?

04:16.496 --> 04:17.777 [SPEAKER_00]: Where does it have to be a little bit deeper?

04:18.998 --> 04:22.080 [SPEAKER_00]: It's 30 out of a question, so I'm wondering to ask that.

04:23.200 --> 04:27.203 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he's in the equation for sure.

04:27.223 --> 04:33.048 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say the back of like a like pick 15, something like that is not ridiculous.

04:34.089 --> 04:36.771 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are a lot of good guys you could start with.

04:38.092 --> 04:45.058 [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, if you just look at his steamer projection, he's a 134 WRC plus he's 22 years old.

04:45.758 --> 04:48.981 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's only going up for the next few years.

04:51.023 --> 04:55.148 [SPEAKER_01]: 33 home run projection on steamer 600 as a 22 year old again.

04:55.168 --> 04:57.411 [SPEAKER_01]: So like that's going to be like 40 at peak.

04:57.491 --> 05:02.819 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're you're kind of getting like young Bryce Harper.

05:03.968 --> 05:05.128 [SPEAKER_01]: at 22 years old.

05:05.208 --> 05:15.452 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think it's pretty much a sure thing that he's like 15 to 20 and then in a don't as he started up even in a redraw field probably go pretty early.

05:17.073 --> 05:18.153 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like a third round.

05:19.714 --> 05:24.776 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even see second, you know, because they're playing in Sacramento again next year.

05:24.876 --> 05:25.336 [SPEAKER_00]: So like a

05:28.937 --> 05:38.163 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, balls do seem to sort of fly out there and their offense is I believe a top 10 offense last I look was like last weekend.

05:38.263 --> 05:46.729 [SPEAKER_00]: So things might have changed a little bit, but they were like 9 or 10 in like home, woeba, homo, ps, um, it's a good place to hit.

05:46.829 --> 05:50.992 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously it's, you know, not, not an untouched lineup.

05:51.032 --> 05:52.633 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really not a bad lineup.

05:54.114 --> 05:55.675 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I just definitely underrated.

05:55.735 --> 05:55.955 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

05:59.981 --> 06:06.683 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Lawrence Butler's 2020 still as well, even though he's had a day on year, or he had high expectations, so there's some has been solid.

06:07.043 --> 06:15.025 [SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Wilson was injured by his back and he was flirting with 300, 350 batting average for a while, like it's another young, he's bothering him too.

06:15.065 --> 06:18.886 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been down since he came back, but yeah, I think that's definitely like Rick still.

06:19.946 --> 06:27.848 [SPEAKER_01]: So just another year, coalescing that young team together and it's the sky's pretty high for the athletics right now.

06:28.902 --> 06:40.244 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think just from accounting stats perspective, he could produce solid run totals, solid RBI totals, because there are some other players in the lineup.

06:40.284 --> 06:44.825 [SPEAKER_00]: And those are not always team-dependent metrics.

06:44.865 --> 06:54.187 [SPEAKER_00]: There are guys on bad teams that will produce great combinations of fronts in RBI's, but overall the guys in the better lineups, in the middle of those lineups,

06:54.707 --> 06:56.988 [SPEAKER_00]: tend to produce more of those runs and RBIs.

06:57.008 --> 06:59.969 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty simple concept, but what I think is awesome times.

07:00.490 --> 07:03.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, how high would you go on Kurtz?

07:03.231 --> 07:10.734 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you've been covering college baseball for quite a while and, you know, are familiar with Kurtz dating back to those days.

07:10.754 --> 07:19.818 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the one question for me and where I'm coming from with this one is

07:20.981 --> 07:30.846 [SPEAKER_00]: The injury history up until this year was kind of checkered where he never really had like a full healthy year in terms of like always was hurt during the summer.

07:30.886 --> 07:32.366 [SPEAKER_00]: There was something he had to take care of.

07:33.247 --> 07:35.268 [SPEAKER_00]: He was pretty healthy all year long.

07:37.129 --> 07:38.389 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think it can maintain that?

07:38.849 --> 07:48.494 [SPEAKER_00]: And if so, you know, how high would you envision, you know, him potentially going in, like I said, a Cadillac D. Redraft, or excuse me, a dynasty startup scratch.

07:49.497 --> 08:04.877 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the injury history was definitely a thing going into the draft like people people had questions about the durability I have a hard time looking at a six foot five 250 pound guy who didn't really like you said have anything serious happened this year.

08:05.698 --> 08:08.921 [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel reasonably confident that he's able to stay healthy.

08:09.121 --> 08:18.929 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is also very difficult in a dangerous game to play to start and try and project out position player injuries and like how guys going to be able to hold up over the next couple years.

08:19.329 --> 08:25.154 [SPEAKER_02]: But I agree with Dylan, like it's hard to imagine him slipping out of the first round and a 16 team league.

08:25.815 --> 08:29.017 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously anything more than that, it would be stunning if he wasn't a first round pick.

08:29.037 --> 08:29.237 [SPEAKER_02]: And then

08:30.370 --> 08:39.138 [SPEAKER_02]: In total redraft leagues, yeah, I think I agree with you in like the second to third round conversation, but I mean, there aren't a lot of negative knocks on him this year.

08:39.318 --> 08:48.707 [SPEAKER_02]: Everything has been pretty outstanding, both from a just regular, counting stats perspective and also, you know, the more advanced outputs that he's been able to put together.

08:48.727 --> 08:54.232 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's 22 years old, so having confidence in this profile is pretty easy.

08:57.350 --> 08:59.031 [SPEAKER_00]: I agree completely.

08:59.271 --> 09:00.552 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move on to the next one.

09:00.572 --> 09:01.873 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is interesting.

09:02.653 --> 09:12.739 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll start off by sort of doing a little bit of a dessert that, which I always think is, you know, how we end up ranking, especially at the top of these lists.

09:14.039 --> 09:19.142 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather have Roman Anthony or Nick Kurtz for the next five years?

09:19.903 --> 09:20.583 [SPEAKER_00]: Can't trade him?

09:21.444 --> 09:23.425 [SPEAKER_00]: Have to keep this guy for the next five years.

09:24.509 --> 09:28.051 [SPEAKER_00]: which one are you kicking, doing?

09:30.432 --> 09:33.254 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll stick with Nick Kurtz.

09:34.754 --> 09:41.938 [SPEAKER_01]: Just because it seems more like Roman Anthony's underlying is excellent, but it wasn't really manifesting in home runs.

09:42.559 --> 09:49.162 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it means it's an issue or anything, but like, just Nick Kurtz is kind of doing it.

09:50.883 --> 09:52.084 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, it's a good park.

09:53.018 --> 09:56.360 [SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing really knocking Kurt, so it feels kind of safer.

09:57.280 --> 10:01.482 [SPEAKER_01]: Anthony, obviously, you'll have a nice line up around on me plays in a pretty good park too.

10:03.043 --> 10:05.424 [SPEAKER_01]: He signed out extensions, so he's getting the playing time.

10:07.865 --> 10:10.747 [SPEAKER_01]: It's fairly close, but I just feel that Nick Kurt's feels safer.

10:13.666 --> 10:16.547 [SPEAKER_02]: I would, I would 100% lean the Kurtz in this battle.

10:16.827 --> 10:24.408 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe that's, that's too abusive in the Kurtz direction, but I tend to agree just a little bit more strongly.

10:24.448 --> 10:27.329 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess than Dylan, like Kurtz feels safer.

10:27.969 --> 10:39.931 [SPEAKER_02]: Anthony has really good underlying, but I think I'd just prefer the guy who's done it and also the six foot five, 240 pound power hitter as opposed to the six foot three, 200 pound power hitter.

10:40.292 --> 10:42.052 [SPEAKER_02]: If we're gonna get really nitpicky in a close race.

10:43.447 --> 10:49.114 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, I don't know how much I believe either of those weights from being completely honest.

10:50.315 --> 10:52.858 [SPEAKER_00]: Kurt's my P240, he could be a little bit more of that.

10:53.819 --> 11:00.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Anthony looks bigger than 200 pounds, just having like been around and as a person who's 200 pounds.

11:03.890 --> 11:05.952 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I don't know.

11:05.972 --> 11:13.899 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that's tough and it's like it's only 14 months in terms of an age difference.

11:14.379 --> 11:16.280 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, and

11:17.437 --> 11:33.764 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Kurt's is first base only, but that's not necessarily a bad thing in a day and age where I feel like the outfield is a lot deeper than the first, like base group is at this point.

11:47.474 --> 11:50.556 [SPEAKER_00]: My head says, Kurt's, my heart says, Roman Anthony.

11:50.736 --> 11:52.177 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to give that one.

11:52.857 --> 11:55.298 [SPEAKER_00]: If there's maybe more speed potential.

11:55.618 --> 11:57.760 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do think the angles are going to get better.

11:59.140 --> 12:01.001 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to strike out a little bit less.

12:02.182 --> 12:03.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Still a very young player.

12:03.643 --> 12:07.745 [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't have high level college experience.

12:07.805 --> 12:09.266 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's really interesting.

12:09.386 --> 12:13.928 [SPEAKER_00]: So all right, we'll kind of keep it there with the Roman Anthony and Nick Kurt's thing.

12:14.549 --> 12:15.589 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to take a quick break.

12:17.320 --> 12:21.746 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about a handful of pitchers for next year.

12:24.990 --> 12:26.012 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, and we're back.

12:27.153 --> 12:29.877 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk a little bit of pitching Dylan if we can.

12:30.598 --> 12:33.602 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob Misierowski, Nolan McLean, Chase birds.

12:34.552 --> 12:36.113 [SPEAKER_00]: Have all had their moments this year.

12:36.133 --> 12:39.454 [SPEAKER_00]: Missierowski obviously was an all star.

12:40.194 --> 12:41.415 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he think he deserves it or not.

12:41.435 --> 12:42.895 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not here to debate that.

12:43.736 --> 12:49.298 [SPEAKER_00]: Certainly exciting and you know, has had moments where he's been, you know, one of the top performers.

12:49.938 --> 12:50.639 [SPEAKER_00]: among rookies.

12:51.259 --> 12:55.602 [SPEAKER_00]: Nolan McLean has been a revelation for the Met since he was called up.

12:56.062 --> 12:58.724 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Chase Burns, I think, has flashed them upside.

12:59.324 --> 13:02.646 [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen that with some injuries and struggle a little bit as well.

13:03.847 --> 13:11.432 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's also the youngest of all these guys and has the least amount of professional experience of the three by quite a large margin.

13:11.532 --> 13:13.354 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to actually

13:15.980 --> 13:20.803 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, two of these guys are, you know, sort of college pictures, Miss Yorowski, of course, is a Juco guy.

13:20.823 --> 13:25.565 [SPEAKER_00]: So you got some background up, burn, you got some background on the claim.

13:26.025 --> 13:28.366 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, follow this well.

13:29.067 --> 13:36.691 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Miss Yorowski, among these three, sort of laid them out for me in terms of how you would rank Miss Yorowski McLean burns.

13:37.451 --> 13:40.673 [SPEAKER_00]: Just for next year, we'll only even talk the next few, just for next year.

13:41.465 --> 13:49.072 [SPEAKER_02]: That makes a question much harder, first of all, because if this was a long-term question, I would say very easily, I think, Missorowski.

13:49.092 --> 14:05.726 [SPEAKER_02]: I would wonder maybe a little bit what the durability is of Missorowski and whether or not this unbelievably heart-throwing slender man is gonna hold up over an extended period of time I'd like to think he would.

14:08.391 --> 14:15.157 [SPEAKER_02]: But I've also, and this is in part due to you, kind of really taking a liking to McLean lately.

14:15.477 --> 14:25.846 [SPEAKER_02]: And I do wonder if there's a chance that he gets back into the lead next season and is just like, shut down unbelievably very good.

14:25.866 --> 14:35.715 [SPEAKER_02]: And so the short-term answer to this question for me kind of actually leans in that direction, like he was so good towards the end of the, or the really the whole year.

14:37.830 --> 14:40.092 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think that that's that's probably where I'd go.

14:40.112 --> 14:54.602 [SPEAKER_02]: And then with burns, some durability questions, like it did there kind of really only got a taste, which is the case for all these guys kind of, but I would say McLean narrowly one, Miss Yorowski, two burns three for especially next year.

14:57.164 --> 14:58.885 [SPEAKER_00]: I actually 100% agree with you.

14:59.025 --> 15:00.646 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really like Miss Yorowski.

15:07.355 --> 15:17.278 [SPEAKER_00]: The command in the control has been there in terms of him, not only throwing a lot of strikes, particularly for a rookie, and he was handling that zone in AAA.

15:17.838 --> 15:22.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, in addition to that, which is not the easiest task.

15:23.159 --> 15:26.880 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny, he threw less strikes in AA, really in the season, which is surprising.

15:29.041 --> 15:32.642 [SPEAKER_00]: But lots of strikes, he's also just like zoning his pitches.

15:33.993 --> 15:38.735 [SPEAKER_00]: landing them in the zones where they are most effective, right?

15:38.755 --> 15:43.656 [SPEAKER_00]: Because these guys aren't throwing pinpoint on like, you know, a dime, right?

15:44.097 --> 15:48.438 [SPEAKER_00]: It's generally to a general area where it's going to be most successful.

15:49.078 --> 15:54.800 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the thing with the claim is he has a ton of variation within the pitch mix.

15:55.461 --> 15:59.502 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's three different fastball shapes essentially and, you know,

16:03.738 --> 16:04.499 [SPEAKER_00]: curve ball.

16:05.860 --> 16:07.180 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a nasty slider.

16:08.301 --> 16:11.864 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the change up has been a really valuable pitch as well.

16:11.944 --> 16:17.288 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like he's mixing no whatever six different shapes.

16:18.295 --> 16:20.698 [SPEAKER_00]: pretty consistently throughout the games, you know.

16:20.718 --> 16:26.124 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he doesn't have a single pitch that has 30% use inches.

16:26.344 --> 16:28.706 [SPEAKER_00]: Highest usage rate is on the slider at 26.9%.

16:28.746 --> 16:31.269 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's just throwing them a such variation.

16:34.152 --> 16:59.671 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that just leaves hitters, especially when the stuff is like this, where he's throwing, you know, all these different pitch shapes at like sort of the peak to high ends close to peak sort of velocity for those pitch shapes, particularly that slider, which is like, you know, high meant to high 80 sweeper, that's an absolutely insane pitch, so I think that's why I'm like so excited about this guy because we've just seen him.

17:01.039 --> 17:07.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Take such a massive step forward, now that he's a full-time starting pitcher.

17:08.004 --> 17:21.373 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the one part of it when you maybe look at age and stuff and try to factor that in, of these guys, he sort of has the least like focused experience as a pitcher.

17:23.098 --> 17:32.464 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously did pitch in college and all that stuff, but, you know, was, you know, spending a lot of time as a hitter and was a two-way guy even early on in his professional career.

17:32.484 --> 17:36.366 [SPEAKER_00]: So do you think there's just some general growth and the metzip and a great job.

17:36.446 --> 17:42.910 [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he blows up stuff plus models and, you know, the location is kind of fringe to average.

17:43.711 --> 17:45.972 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, that's a good combination of half.

17:46.072 --> 17:49.154 [SPEAKER_00]: So I tend to agree with you and I'm pretty high on Miss Yerowski.

17:49.234 --> 17:50.355 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Dylan,

17:51.549 --> 17:55.512 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me kick it over to you now that I've Yeah, it's poetic for a few minutes myself.

17:56.252 --> 17:57.333 [SPEAKER_00]: So where do you fall on this?

17:57.993 --> 17:59.955 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so here's a quick question for you, too.

18:01.416 --> 18:04.958 [SPEAKER_01]: Of the three, who has the highest F war for the year?

18:04.978 --> 18:11.203 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're asking with 60 innings, Chase Burns, 36 and a third, no one will claim 37 and two thirds.

18:12.924 --> 18:13.244 [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody?

18:13.464 --> 18:13.664 [SPEAKER_01]: Quick.

18:14.105 --> 18:15.045 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say my claim.

18:16.987 --> 18:18.788 [SPEAKER_02]: Jacob, what about him in my guess?

18:19.623 --> 18:20.364 [SPEAKER_01]: They're tied.

18:21.004 --> 18:21.985 [SPEAKER_01]: One point two each.

18:23.166 --> 18:24.487 [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty remarkable.

18:25.108 --> 18:31.934 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think because the F4 is based on like FIP, which is like Burns has 40.4, Capre 9.

18:32.074 --> 18:36.457 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, yeah, they're all, they're all essentially tied.

18:36.477 --> 18:39.180 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've had this conversation before I still lean Chase Birds.

18:39.400 --> 18:42.683 [SPEAKER_01]: So everything you guys said makes complete sense.

18:44.104 --> 18:44.685 [SPEAKER_01]: I just like,

18:46.031 --> 18:47.152 [SPEAKER_01]: like Chase Burns.

18:47.173 --> 18:52.879 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the park's not great, but you know Rob was got really loved Chase Burns.

18:53.240 --> 18:58.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Miseress, he's kind of come down a bit from the elevated position he was.

18:59.247 --> 19:01.570 [SPEAKER_01]: He raised now 4.35 and we don't really care about he.

19:01.610 --> 19:03.893 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, but he has the highest ex-fifth of the three.

19:05.875 --> 19:08.416 [SPEAKER_01]: Nolan McClain is this sort of the wild card.

19:09.637 --> 19:12.159 [SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of like third on the robust goat.

19:13.239 --> 19:15.660 [SPEAKER_01]: Ranking is if I was just going by what the minor league performance was.

19:15.720 --> 19:16.761 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, he's been lights out.

19:17.742 --> 19:19.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Matt's good team, good park.

19:21.264 --> 19:25.786 [SPEAKER_01]: Stuffier say Jeff about he was like, you know, he's got not as much experience pitching type of thing.

19:25.826 --> 19:32.690 [SPEAKER_01]: So like, where he's going to just learn and continue to learn how to be a pitcher, rather than just having the hellacious stuff.

19:33.230 --> 19:35.010 [SPEAKER_01]: So like that's a bit of a wild card I understand.

19:35.050 --> 19:35.511 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

19:35.551 --> 19:38.551 [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel, you know, I have a burns guy.

19:38.591 --> 19:43.252 [SPEAKER_01]: So I got to stick with burns and then Miserowski and McClain kind of tied.

19:43.312 --> 19:52.394 [SPEAKER_01]: I might even lean, um, McClain, which might surprise people over Miserowski because I'm just worried about the the control from Miserowski kind of over time.

19:52.455 --> 19:53.975 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it doesn't seem to be an issue, but

19:54.767 --> 20:02.809 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he had high double digit walk rates in the minors for a long time, so I'm just worried about that.

20:03.469 --> 20:12.091 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I think that's, it's all reasonable and I think it's an interesting conversation because you can, they're all good pitchers.

20:12.411 --> 20:17.012 [SPEAKER_00]: If I could roster all three of them, I probably would, you know,

20:17.800 --> 20:34.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not even a bad plan if that was your pitching staff, you know, a lot of like huge upside and it could sprinkle in a couple other guys, right, some other veterans to get some innings, but yeah, and I think they're all good for different reasons and I definitely think that like the K per nine conversation.

20:35.953 --> 20:38.174 [SPEAKER_00]: or, you know, carate sort of conversation.

20:38.974 --> 20:42.395 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably is one between Missierowski and Burns.

20:42.895 --> 20:52.157 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's more going to be the balance and the accumulation of innings and just high efficiency and a lot sort of stuff that you're going to get from a claim, which is obviously a little different.

20:53.337 --> 20:58.078 [SPEAKER_00]: Where, you know, it's a different player, but it's almost like a souped-up, you know, Logan Webb.

20:58.479 --> 21:02.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Where you can get a ton of ground balls, but it also gets some whiffs and, you know,

21:05.271 --> 21:13.618 [SPEAKER_00]: Good, you know, on a good team that could win some games and, you know, that line of probably won't get better as Steve Cohen continues to flex his financial muscles.

21:14.398 --> 21:16.160 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move on to the next one.

21:16.180 --> 21:18.962 [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a really tough conversation on this guy.

21:19.983 --> 21:22.365 [SPEAKER_00]: What do we do with Marcelo Meyer for next year?

21:23.846 --> 21:25.387 [SPEAKER_00]: Where does he fall into?

21:26.785 --> 21:41.581 [SPEAKER_00]: sort of the general dynasty conversation of if you are any startup drafts, how early do you pull the trigger on him, do you find him to be more valuable going into next year knowing that they're probably will be a major league role form right away.

21:42.482 --> 21:50.906 [SPEAKER_00]: or is he less valuable, now that he came up, can be struggled a little bit, and, you know, the shine is sort of off, so to speak.

21:52.246 --> 21:57.128 [SPEAKER_00]: Dylan, I'm going to kick this one back to you, so I can switch it up, switch it up on people.

21:57.269 --> 21:58.509 [SPEAKER_00]: So Dylan, I'm going back to you.

22:00.750 --> 22:03.151 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you viewing Marcel bar going in next year?

22:03.191 --> 22:05.112 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think it's a tough conversation.

22:06.365 --> 22:13.604 [SPEAKER_01]: It is tough, I mean, so just a little bit of my process first thing I'm gonna do is you just go to the projections.

22:15.184 --> 22:22.086 [SPEAKER_01]: kind of just cuts through all the, oh, he struggled, but he did well and finally, he's at such a kind of like, well, what does the numbers kind of say?

22:23.126 --> 22:35.029 [SPEAKER_01]: So his steamer 600 projection is a 242 batting average 299 on base, 87 WRC plus so below average, 16 homeruns, seven still on bases.

22:35.249 --> 22:35.910 [SPEAKER_01]: So not great.

22:37.170 --> 22:38.550 [SPEAKER_01]: He is 22 is that right?

22:42.048 --> 22:55.156 [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, room to grow, you know, that 16 homeruns what I say nine stolen bases that that probably going to look more like 24 14 at peak, which is pretty solid.

22:55.356 --> 22:58.858 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the 87 WRC plus will get up to over 100.

22:59.519 --> 23:03.441 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think it was just kind of a bad start.

23:03.641 --> 23:07.704 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that, you know, he's a bad player all the AAA stuff was good.

23:07.744 --> 23:09.225 [SPEAKER_01]: There was no reason to think that he wasn't going to.

23:09.565 --> 23:11.667 [SPEAKER_01]: you know, be a successful major league baseball player.

23:11.707 --> 23:19.132 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think, you know, 69 as 242 batting average, a short stop position is not great.

23:19.612 --> 23:20.913 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's upside there.

23:21.273 --> 23:31.701 [SPEAKER_01]: So starting from redraft, you know, he is someone you'll take as your minor league, your middle infielder rather than your starting short stop with upside and I could easily see it paying off

23:37.762 --> 23:44.444 [SPEAKER_01]: I was always a bit low on him, he was in my top 100, but he was kind of in the lower end.

23:44.484 --> 23:51.586 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think his fantasy profile was that great, and the steamer projections are kind of supporting that.

23:52.866 --> 23:55.307 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always kind of like the third

23:57.047 --> 23:59.989 [SPEAKER_01]: step sister behind Roman Anthony and Christian Campbell.

24:00.809 --> 24:03.790 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I was never too huge autumn.

24:03.871 --> 24:08.593 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if I would end up taking them because I think there's going to be if there's a year in a 16 team league.

24:08.613 --> 24:12.695 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's like 10 people who are going to pick them before I would start thinking about it.

24:13.355 --> 24:14.976 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I'm a bit cool autumn.

24:15.116 --> 24:16.257 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a good player.

24:16.317 --> 24:20.299 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think he's, uh, you know, a great player that's going to anchor your

24:26.674 --> 24:28.156 [SPEAKER_00]: We shall see, all right.

24:28.797 --> 24:35.827 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, I'm going back to you, fellow native of California, more syllabire.

24:36.148 --> 24:39.733 [SPEAKER_00]: So, where do you, where do you view him?

24:41.737 --> 24:41.977 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

24:41.997 --> 24:55.300 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my opinion doesn't differ too much from Dylan's, which is that I think that there's a chance that maybe one day, some dynasty investment will pay dividends.

24:55.520 --> 25:04.142 [SPEAKER_02]: I do have pretty significant concerns at this point about what that's going to look like in the short term like to carry the conversation over that we just had about the three pictures.

25:04.262 --> 25:06.602 [SPEAKER_02]: What do I think about this for next year in particular?

25:07.123 --> 25:07.783 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be worried.

25:09.043 --> 25:13.685 [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't really do much to inspire confidence this year in the majors.

25:13.705 --> 25:21.009 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that there are some qualities that like, maybe allow him to break out of this.

25:21.029 --> 25:24.070 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he still hit the ball hard reasonably frequently.

25:24.090 --> 25:25.491 [SPEAKER_02]: He has good bat speed.

25:26.791 --> 25:28.552 [SPEAKER_02]: He did barrel the ball up a decent amount.

25:28.592 --> 25:30.933 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, the EV numbers were respectable.

25:31.213 --> 25:32.394 [SPEAKER_02]: Is probably how I'd put it.

25:32.774 --> 25:34.335 [SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't a whole lot else that was like,

25:35.277 --> 25:36.178 [SPEAKER_02]: attention grabbing.

25:37.780 --> 25:42.845 [SPEAKER_02]: But again, he's 22 years old former very early first round pick that wasn't that long ago.

25:42.865 --> 25:51.054 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not talking about somebody who's like 24 and on the cusp of being in the conversation of like, all right, this is really like bus time, like we're not there yet.

25:52.316 --> 25:52.896 [SPEAKER_02]: And so if you're

25:53.737 --> 25:59.681 [SPEAKER_02]: looking for young talent and somebody who is still within the realm of like this could work out even great.

26:00.242 --> 26:04.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Then I don't know that he's like in the avoid category at all or even really close to it for that matter.

26:05.025 --> 26:15.732 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that he's like a take with caution just given what's already been put on paper and the fact that there are like a lot of holes to poke in any positive

26:20.545 --> 26:40.320 [SPEAKER_00]: I sort of view him as a bench bat in like a 16 team league that has some upside going in next year that you can probably buy in the downside a little bit, just in terms of like where his fantasy dynasty stock is, right?

26:40.340 --> 26:42.441 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that the shine is off a little bit?

26:42.602 --> 26:42.842 [SPEAKER_00]: So,

26:44.833 --> 26:57.945 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's a bad bike because he's always had sort of this combination of hit tool, decent approach, and, you know, solid power, um, and I think that will play eventually, frankly.

26:58.305 --> 27:02.509 [SPEAKER_00]: The big question for me with with Meyer is he's constantly hurt.

27:02.750 --> 27:05.292 [SPEAKER_00]: He's never finished a season healthiest professional.

27:05.772 --> 27:06.913 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know,

27:07.886 --> 27:19.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, especially with hitters that's just like freak stuff, but it's not with him sometimes it's tissue stuff, it's not always like broken bones, et cetera, but he does seem to be a little bit more injury prone.

27:19.833 --> 27:34.983 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it isn't perceived with caution, but it could see, you know, they're being some upside and, you know, especially if you sort of look at like qualified third baseman from this year, like you can probably do worse and it wouldn't shock me if, you know, he's more valuable than,

27:35.650 --> 27:47.820 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Brian McMahon's and Zach McHenstries or, you know, even you Hennie Oswaris, if you just go on a home run, tear again next year and end up with 45 home runs hit to 20.

27:48.060 --> 27:52.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'll say you're pointed about the injuries is very well founded.

27:52.343 --> 27:54.805 [SPEAKER_02]: He's never played more than 91 games in the season since 2021.

27:55.286 --> 27:58.728 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that is probably above any point that was made.

27:58.869 --> 28:00.530 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that would be the thing that scares me a ton.

28:01.786 --> 28:10.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do think the profile that even going into this year, we were ranking him, you know, and the conversations that were had.

28:11.971 --> 28:25.376 [SPEAKER_00]: in 2024 as Campbell was breaking out and Anthony obviously had established himself of why Anthony was a number of prospecting it wasn't Meyer and then eventually why Campbell should overtake Meyer.

28:26.036 --> 28:33.758 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of it came down to was like, yeah, like this guy never seems to ever finish a seasoned healthy.

28:33.858 --> 28:38.080 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's definitely a concern.

28:38.320 --> 28:40.721 [SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna have multi-position eligibility, I believe.

28:41.587 --> 28:49.792 [SPEAKER_00]: Shortstop, second base, third base, or second base, third base, and then potentially you get some running at the shortstop position.

28:49.832 --> 28:52.573 [SPEAKER_00]: I still think that's their long term plan.

28:53.734 --> 28:55.295 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, like.

28:57.162 --> 29:13.272 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see why he couldn't finish within the top 12 to 13 among third basements and maybe sort of valuable in the sense that you could use in a million fields and a corner and field slot.

29:14.073 --> 29:16.334 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's a bad buy this offseason.

29:17.095 --> 29:23.199 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably write him up as a sleeper as we start to get into our offseason fantasy content,

29:30.951 --> 29:31.712 [SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting one.

29:31.752 --> 29:50.970 [SPEAKER_00]: Another one that I think is difficult in, you know, we did get a taste obviously of Owen Casey in the major leagues this season, but a majority of our sample size has been his last two years in AAA where he showed a lot of power.

29:52.196 --> 29:56.699 [SPEAKER_00]: a lot of on base ability, certainly quite a bit of swing and miss as well.

29:57.719 --> 30:00.081 [SPEAKER_00]: In the majors, it's only 27 plate appearances.

30:00.161 --> 30:06.465 [SPEAKER_00]: So there was a lot of swing and miss, it's such a small sample size that it's tough to take anything away from that.

30:06.485 --> 30:10.787 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously he's been dealing with the concussion and it is currently on the injured list.

30:10.927 --> 30:19.553 [SPEAKER_00]: So Dylan, going in at 2026, and we can talk about this long term, we can look at it just seemingly for next season, doesn't matter to me.

30:23.016 --> 30:24.316 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you viewing Casey?

30:25.777 --> 30:29.258 [SPEAKER_01]: I think a long term, I'm not that concerned.

30:31.239 --> 30:33.240 [SPEAKER_01]: He, so I just look at the bat speed.

30:34.020 --> 30:35.641 [SPEAKER_01]: His average bat speed's pretty good.

30:36.081 --> 30:37.441 [SPEAKER_01]: His hard hit rates pretty good.

30:37.481 --> 30:39.002 [SPEAKER_01]: He just didn't bear anything up.

30:40.422 --> 30:47.265 [SPEAKER_01]: So kind of what we expected, except for the barrels, is what he did in the major leagues, just without the production.

30:48.225 --> 30:54.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he was the sixth best hitter in AAA per robot scout.

30:55.308 --> 30:58.169 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I, I, I like that.

30:58.229 --> 31:06.292 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, so that that's something I always put in the back of my mind that, you know, take the projections with the grain of salt, the projections are going to be based on on production.

31:06.312 --> 31:11.494 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, robots got folds in the stack cast, and the stack cast is pretty good.

31:12.034 --> 31:13.635 [SPEAKER_01]: It's basically kind of what

31:15.996 --> 31:23.503 [SPEAKER_01]: average contact average zone contact in zone contact and then like a 90th percentile exit velocity like one or eight one or nine.

31:24.304 --> 31:26.826 [SPEAKER_01]: And barreling up in in the miners.

31:27.026 --> 31:30.169 [SPEAKER_01]: He chased a bit more than Anthony did, but you know, this is the profile you want.

31:30.189 --> 31:40.259 [SPEAKER_01]: You want like the huge exit velocities, good angles, and then the contact not being so poor that, you know, it's kind of a balancing act of

31:41.208 --> 31:47.332 [SPEAKER_01]: getting to above average at WRC plus and then not chasing like other people who we may talk about on this podcast.

31:48.052 --> 31:49.493 [SPEAKER_01]: So he has everything that we want.

31:49.533 --> 31:50.073 [SPEAKER_01]: He's young.

31:50.093 --> 31:51.454 [SPEAKER_01]: He's only 22.

31:51.594 --> 31:55.196 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a whole, you know, there's a lot of runaway for improvement.

31:55.397 --> 31:57.638 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess the question is, that's all long terms of.

31:57.658 --> 31:58.819 [SPEAKER_01]: The question is short term.

31:59.659 --> 32:00.399 [SPEAKER_01]: What's this position?

32:00.779 --> 32:03.700 [SPEAKER_01]: Where's he going to play for the Cubs?

32:03.740 --> 32:08.541 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Moist has been a stereo is starting to heat up in the major leagues.

32:08.641 --> 32:09.902 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't really have a position.

32:09.922 --> 32:13.403 [SPEAKER_01]: He has a better hit tool than Casey.

32:14.363 --> 32:21.605 [SPEAKER_01]: He might be more valuable near term, like including next year, and so like he'll probably get the majority playing time if they're fighting for a DH position.

32:21.625 --> 32:22.045 [SPEAKER_01]: For example,

32:22.765 --> 32:27.370 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it'll be hard for Casey to get this playing time kind of what I'm for seeing.

32:27.911 --> 32:29.793 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I don't know what the call Tucker situation is going to be.

32:29.833 --> 32:32.936 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the team's going to look like next year, but it's like he.

32:33.036 --> 32:35.999 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't know what his playing time is going to be.

32:36.079 --> 32:42.146 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think in dynasty, you might be a good by low just because he started off so poorly right now.

32:42.706 --> 32:42.947 [SPEAKER_01]: And then.

32:43.487 --> 32:57.782 [SPEAKER_01]: these questions about playing time may, you know, be lingering in the person who opens Casey right now's head and so you maybe can can pluck them for cheap, but I do like that I do like the power, I do like the outlook for long term, I just don't know when it's going to actualize.

32:58.867 --> 33:09.672 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is starting to feel like the Michael Bush conversation that we have for three freaking years consecutively, but like it feels like Casey's eventually going to probably get traded.

33:09.692 --> 33:17.215 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think like the other part of it is it could be telling to see what happens with Tucker, you know, he is a free agent.

33:17.996 --> 33:20.036 [SPEAKER_00]: If he does end up walking and the the

33:24.227 --> 33:31.196 [SPEAKER_00]: Then it's a conversation between Casey and Alcantara, who came in as a defensive replacement today for Suzuki.

33:32.558 --> 33:34.140 [SPEAKER_00]: But there's only so much playing time.

33:34.160 --> 33:40.128 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say in Casey's favor, it's going to be a corner-infilled spot.

33:40.688 --> 33:46.155 [SPEAKER_00]: that they're going to be looking for because P. Crowe Armstrong ain't given up center field at any time soon.

33:46.295 --> 33:48.277 [SPEAKER_00]: So that one is kind of a given.

33:49.819 --> 33:53.243 [SPEAKER_00]: But you do have, you know, Suzuki under contract, I think, for another year.

33:53.263 --> 33:56.607 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Ian Hap, I think, is still under contract for another year.

33:56.807 --> 33:58.630 [SPEAKER_00]: right, he's not a free agent after the season.

33:58.730 --> 34:13.490 [SPEAKER_00]: So you do have three starting calibre outfielders, half is pretty good in left, you do take a defensive hit a little bit with Suzuki, but he can also, you know, slide into the age depending upon what they do with Moises ballasteros,

34:14.447 --> 34:19.228 [SPEAKER_00]: Good segue because this is the next name that we're going to talk about is Voices Bellisteros.

34:19.408 --> 34:22.689 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw him hit a ball, clean out of PNC Park today.

34:24.289 --> 34:26.569 [SPEAKER_00]: He was the DH and batting cleanup.

34:26.989 --> 34:28.650 [SPEAKER_00]: So kind of interesting.

34:28.830 --> 34:34.671 [SPEAKER_00]: So he did get replaced when a left hander came in by Justin Turner.

34:35.211 --> 34:40.292 [SPEAKER_00]: But despite that, he's still incredibly young.

34:41.403 --> 34:48.145 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the hit tool, just the underlying bat to ball ability has always been outstanding.

34:49.105 --> 34:54.527 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been showing better approach than he had in previous seasons as well.

34:55.507 --> 34:59.109 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, I'm sort of interested Dylan.

34:59.649 --> 35:04.250 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, where do you fall on the balistero's conversation

35:10.982 --> 35:16.005 [SPEAKER_00]: Could you go into next year, confident as him as you're starting catcher?

35:18.807 --> 35:21.069 [SPEAKER_01]: Assuming he retains his catcher eligibility, yeah, I think so.

35:21.089 --> 35:27.733 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he'd be my catcher one, but he'd be definitely a catcher two I'd be looking at.

35:27.753 --> 35:32.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he'd be a high end grab for a catcher two slot in a two catcher league, 100%.

35:33.397 --> 35:35.198 [SPEAKER_00]: He might end up a utility only though.

35:35.319 --> 35:37.360 [SPEAKER_00]: So there is a possibility.

35:38.822 --> 35:53.383 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's I guess how he finishes out the year these last week and a half this last two weeks, like if he's hitting clean up, then that's going to go a long way for these redraft players, we're going to know that they're they're pretty sharp.

35:54.124 --> 35:59.468 [SPEAKER_01]: and he'll be a very trendy pick, especially the routines to catch your eligibility for 2026.

36:01.189 --> 36:09.714 [SPEAKER_01]: If he doesn't, if he kind of just sputters to the finish, like then it is, that's where I actually probably more interested in that.

36:10.995 --> 36:15.578 [SPEAKER_01]: He may be under the radar, he is a guy that he's going to hit 260 or higher probably.

36:16.159 --> 36:18.760 [SPEAKER_01]: He has enough slump in the bat, as you said, he hit it out of the park

36:22.863 --> 36:48.362 [SPEAKER_01]: without question, I think, is definitely plausible, if they have him at these catheter eligible, but he's playing D.H., and so he's getting to like 500, 600 plate appearances, and you're talking like William Pintreras kind of value not being a William Pintreras, but like the type of player that William Pintreras is, and down to see where you get so many plate appearances at the catheter position, he then becomes a guy that I'd be looking at, you know, as my

36:49.423 --> 36:51.383 [SPEAKER_01]: like the 15th catcher off the board type of thing.

36:51.423 --> 36:53.884 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I would be happy with him as my catcher one.

36:54.064 --> 36:56.124 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've always loved Baustero.

36:56.144 --> 36:59.505 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he's always a guy here at the top of Robasca for the last couple of years.

36:59.525 --> 37:00.865 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always been the young for the level.

37:00.885 --> 37:01.865 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always had a great hit tool.

37:01.905 --> 37:02.926 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always had a good power.

37:03.906 --> 37:06.246 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a question of where is he going to play?

37:06.326 --> 37:08.106 [SPEAKER_01]: He's too short to play first and all that stuff.

37:08.126 --> 37:08.967 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a bit of chase.

37:09.027 --> 37:14.248 [SPEAKER_01]: But I like the fact that the cubs are kind of recognizing that he's got a bat.

37:16.802 --> 37:17.762 [SPEAKER_00]: been down in the big league.

37:17.782 --> 37:21.903 [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's a very small sample, but they get 26% chase rate.

37:22.003 --> 37:29.565 [SPEAKER_00]: So he does chase, but he covers a ton of like the, like, shadow zone, really well.

37:30.286 --> 37:33.446 [SPEAKER_00]: There are some chase pitches that he'll just like straight up hit.

37:33.486 --> 37:37.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Like just swinging miss is not a major issue in his game.

37:37.167 --> 37:38.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just a matter of consistent angles.

37:39.568 --> 37:41.970 [SPEAKER_00]: the catching conversation is a really interesting one.

37:42.210 --> 37:49.377 [SPEAKER_00]: I could see them giving him some games behind the plate now that they've clinched for the playoffs and aren't going to probably with that division.

37:50.458 --> 37:56.283 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I would probably

37:58.564 --> 38:08.137 [SPEAKER_00]: I would probably guess that he'll retain catcher eligibility because he had like 70 plus catching starts in Triple A. And I think like I said, should catch some games down the stretch here.

38:09.979 --> 38:11.882 [SPEAKER_00]: But it will be interesting to see how that tracks.

38:11.902 --> 38:15.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he does seem like he's probably going to catch

38:16.608 --> 38:28.376 [SPEAKER_00]: just enough to retain that eligibility and if he hit see a majority of his played appearance at DH, the other really interesting thing with him too is he turns 22 in November.

38:28.496 --> 38:31.118 [SPEAKER_00]: So he is 22 for all of next year.

38:31.178 --> 38:36.281 [SPEAKER_00]: So you know, I'll already very young to be of the majors and producing a little

38:43.590 --> 38:47.974 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's at 11 games a day, right now, and not at catcher in the majors.

38:48.254 --> 38:54.159 [SPEAKER_01]: So for NFBC, at least he would have to he'd have to get more than 11 catching appearances.

38:56.160 --> 38:57.802 [SPEAKER_01]: So he probably won't have catcher.

38:57.822 --> 39:00.904 [SPEAKER_01]: Lee's in an FBC depends on how you're done.

39:00.944 --> 39:03.586 [SPEAKER_01]: I see Lee does it if he's if they go by the money.

39:08.166 --> 39:13.488 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think they just they go by what's his what position did he play the most at in the major.

39:13.548 --> 39:20.772 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're in like in 2026, if he catches 15 games in April and May, will he gain?

39:21.152 --> 39:21.872 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, would you believe?

39:22.112 --> 39:22.292 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

39:22.332 --> 39:27.795 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you got 10 10 10 10 10 games at the position in season, then you get that eligibility.

39:28.155 --> 39:34.866 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that will probably make him even sneakier and like NFBC leagues because he's going to be values of utility, but could add that catching eligibility.

39:34.946 --> 39:37.270 [SPEAKER_00]: So that will be interesting.

39:37.410 --> 39:40.435 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, do you have any opinions on these couple of cubs guys that we've talked about?

39:41.537 --> 39:55.623 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would say with Balistero, so I can absolutely see him and this is like escaping the bounds of the dynasty conversation, but in a redraft league, this is like the exact player that you rub your hands together and unleash an evil laugh when you're on a call with your buddies and your draft and your league.

39:56.063 --> 39:57.984 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like, he does hit the ball super hard.

39:58.244 --> 40:09.509 [SPEAKER_02]: I would have hope as like a fantasy owner that he would have catcher eligibility because if he does, I mean, the upside is that he's one of the better offensive catchers for fantasy out there.

40:10.627 --> 40:36.347 [SPEAKER_02]: if he's not going to catch it obviously changes the picture like rather considerably I would be curious as to like what exactly that change would look like but if he's going to get a ton of plate appearances and he's going to smash baseball's it feels really good about having him on my team uh and i kind of feel the same way about own Casey like it seems like a pretty sure profile on Casey we we know he's going to hit for power we think we know he's going to hit for power

40:37.027 --> 40:42.370 [SPEAKER_02]: And if that happens, then he'll be the player that we anticipate.

40:42.670 --> 40:45.491 [SPEAKER_02]: And if not, then there's a lot of risk.

40:45.571 --> 40:49.293 [SPEAKER_02]: I think actually he's like on that, he's he's the perfect player for the conversation.

40:49.313 --> 41:00.478 [SPEAKER_02]: We've been having about short term versus long term value because for KC, I'd feel really good about investing now for like a matter of years and hoping that over time he holds into this great power hitting player.

41:01.198 --> 41:10.684 [SPEAKER_02]: whereas next year I would have myriad concerns about rostering him from where are you going to play defensively to are you going to make enough contact to be productive?

41:11.224 --> 41:17.668 [SPEAKER_02]: And like with the way that he swings and misses and what we saw in a short sample this year, that would be kind of front of mine for me.

41:17.748 --> 41:19.890 [SPEAKER_02]: So on KC, I can go either way.

41:20.410 --> 41:24.853 [SPEAKER_02]: On Bass Daros, I would be extremely like giddy to get him.

41:24.913 --> 41:28.775 [SPEAKER_02]: If he was the 12th to 15th catcher off the board and I could stash him on my bench and like

41:33.223 --> 41:34.264 [SPEAKER_00]: All very good points.

41:34.725 --> 41:38.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they are both like interesting buys.

41:38.610 --> 41:45.319 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the thing that's great about going after guys like Bala's Deros or KC,

41:46.681 --> 41:53.025 [SPEAKER_00]: This offseason is the uncertainty that's attached to them, especially in that early window of the offseason.

41:53.045 --> 42:00.129 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say your league starts trading after the world series, right, and free aging hasn't started yet.

42:00.169 --> 42:01.950 [SPEAKER_00]: You have that window up to the winter meetings.

42:01.990 --> 42:04.612 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like, you know, some of the big deals have aren't happening yet.

42:04.652 --> 42:06.613 [SPEAKER_00]: You may not know a whole lot about Kyle Tucker.

42:08.365 --> 42:10.246 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's still some other guys in the mix there.

42:10.346 --> 42:22.294 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's enough names of our guitar and then the three guys that we mentioned with PCA, Suzuki and Hap, where you can kind of buy into that before something happens.

42:22.514 --> 42:28.978 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you could be sitting there having paid a really low price and five, six months in the future.

42:28.998 --> 42:31.219 [SPEAKER_00]: He gets traded, somebody gets injured.

42:31.839 --> 42:34.861 [SPEAKER_00]: Tucker doesn't resign for a variety of those.

42:37.477 --> 42:41.998 [SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden, you know, there's value in ballasteros, those value in KC.

42:42.098 --> 42:50.580 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think they're also both young enough and show good enough underlying skills that I really believe in both these profiles.

42:51.160 --> 42:55.181 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's finish off this show with a little bit of the lightning routes.

42:55.301 --> 42:57.582 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna throw a bunch of names at each of you.

42:57.602 --> 42:58.742 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go back and forth.

42:59.342 --> 43:01.403 [SPEAKER_00]: All they want to hear from each of you don't need an explanation.

43:01.423 --> 43:05.183 [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to know if you're in or out for 2026

43:08.165 --> 43:33.185 [SPEAKER_00]: think of it from an approach of, I want to pay the price, it's going to take to get this player in a startup, dynasty league, whether it's an auction, whether it's a draft, inner app, real simple rules, all right, the first one I'm going to throw at you, Dylan, Boba Chandler, inner app, I think out for the price that I expect he would be in a startup.

43:34.238 --> 43:36.179 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, Jacob, Boba Chandler.

43:36.819 --> 43:39.161 [SPEAKER_02]: And as a real-life, Boba Chandler owner.

43:39.821 --> 43:42.762 [SPEAKER_02]: And somebody who wants to sound good on this podcast, I am in.

43:43.983 --> 43:45.364 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, here we go.

43:45.624 --> 43:46.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Split decision.

43:48.185 --> 43:50.146 [SPEAKER_00]: I personally am kind of out.

43:50.366 --> 43:55.529 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm a little worried that he could be a reliever and the fastball doesn't get great whiffs, right?

43:56.069 --> 43:57.930 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just been kind of a weird season for him.

43:58.431 --> 43:59.951 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'm going to go back to Jacob.

44:00.432 --> 44:02.893 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, Drake Baldwin, in and out.

44:04.279 --> 44:09.636 [SPEAKER_00]: Drake Baldwin also in Dylan Drake Baldwin.

44:10.272 --> 44:12.253 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm in on Baldwin.

44:12.734 --> 44:14.115 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also in on Baldwin.

44:14.135 --> 44:15.796 [SPEAKER_00]: The underlying dad has always been good.

44:16.256 --> 44:20.679 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to get a long, long leash, just like they're pretty much there every day, catchers.

44:20.739 --> 44:23.301 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think the opportunity is there.

44:23.661 --> 44:27.124 [SPEAKER_00]: And he could have a top five catching season next year.

44:27.144 --> 44:29.745 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's even crazy for my fantasy perspective.

44:29.865 --> 44:33.048 [SPEAKER_00]: So all right, little more tricky on this one down.

44:33.088 --> 44:36.130 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going back to you, Colson McGombry, in her.

44:37.603 --> 44:38.884 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm out of gold in Montgomery.

44:39.925 --> 44:51.655 [SPEAKER_01]: The caveat I have is if people are so out on him because I think it's all kind of smoking mirrors performance is not supported by the underlying Straco race going to catch up to them all that stuff.

44:52.735 --> 44:55.718 [SPEAKER_01]: If he becomes a guy that everyone's fading, then maybe I'll get them.

44:56.278 --> 45:00.722 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll pick them up cheap, but I don't think that out for now out for now.

45:00.842 --> 45:01.563 [SPEAKER_00]: Jake over now.

45:02.383 --> 45:03.204 [SPEAKER_00]: Colson Macau.

45:03.544 --> 45:14.291 [SPEAKER_02]: I would be one of the guys that would push Colson Montgomery towards Dylan's team because I too would be out and afraid of some of the things like the swing and miss that would allow him to be team white.

45:15.972 --> 45:18.034 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, consensus.

45:18.954 --> 45:21.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Colson Montgomery we're all we're all out.

45:21.656 --> 45:23.217 [SPEAKER_00]: I just have to see more plate skills.

45:24.238 --> 45:28.521 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of with more the guy that he was prior to 2024 he just has not been since.

45:31.629 --> 45:44.056 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just ex-wobacon his way to production this year, just maximizing and getting every opportunity ounce of power and production out of every ball that he's put into play this year.

45:44.437 --> 45:47.098 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just can't see that repeating itself.

45:48.019 --> 45:56.163 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen some pretty low valleys, right, with Montgomery, without crazy high peaks.

45:56.343 --> 46:00.126 [SPEAKER_00]: This has kind of been the production key, and it's kept up longer than we expected.

46:00.965 --> 46:16.781 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say that if we see some skill improvements in terms of basketball and swing decisions, I could be in, I could also see myself in, as you said, if it bottoms out to such an extreme and it's like he's almost free, it's like where I want to take the chance, I can see that.

46:18.843 --> 46:21.145 [SPEAKER_00]: Matt Shaw Jacob, hit her out.

46:22.212 --> 46:23.113 [SPEAKER_02]: I said it before the show.

46:23.133 --> 46:24.133 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say it now here.

46:24.153 --> 46:28.276 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm out most of the numbers were really discouraging this year.

46:28.476 --> 46:29.857 [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't hit the ball particularly hard.

46:29.877 --> 46:31.518 [SPEAKER_02]: I know the 90th percentile was solid.

46:32.999 --> 46:39.144 [SPEAKER_02]: I just would have weighed too many concerns that he's not going to fix it enough to make it worth it out.

46:40.625 --> 46:40.925 [SPEAKER_00]: Dylan.

46:42.114 --> 46:49.197 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm going to stick with matcha, he's probably under undervalued right now.

46:49.257 --> 46:55.220 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think he's got 2020 in the bat, steamer, even has some projected as like a three war player.

46:55.260 --> 47:01.322 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I think he will play and that'll give him time to kind of meet the potential we thought he would have.

47:01.642 --> 47:06.004 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the bat speed and all that's pretty crappy, but I mean, I think he's undervalued.

47:10.427 --> 47:13.729 [SPEAKER_00]: This is such a tough one because he is in Massachusetts native.

47:13.769 --> 47:16.351 [SPEAKER_00]: So I want to be in, but I think I'm out.

47:17.431 --> 47:22.634 [SPEAKER_00]: So take that as a challenge, Matt Shaw, and produce something for me.

47:22.694 --> 47:25.316 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, make me eat my words and make Dylan looks smart.

47:25.336 --> 47:26.577 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why we have a lot of staff.

47:27.317 --> 47:27.758 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

47:34.275 --> 47:43.219 [SPEAKER_01]: That was me, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I think the only thing stopping me from being further in is I think everyone loves Luke Kieshal right now.

47:44.059 --> 47:45.419 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a UT only coming in.

47:45.460 --> 47:48.181 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got second base eligibility, stealing bases like crazy.

47:48.201 --> 47:49.241 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

47:50.061 --> 47:52.302 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think people are going to love Luke Kieshal.

47:53.123 --> 47:55.764 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in, but I don't know if I'll end up getting him.

47:57.824 --> 47:58.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, how about you?

47:59.458 --> 48:05.324 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, the question that preface this segment was based on value of the player.

48:05.344 --> 48:09.668 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say I'm in on the key show like the, I think this guy's a really good baseball player.

48:09.688 --> 48:13.392 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably out at the, at the cost of where I would have to draft him.

48:13.912 --> 48:16.555 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think he's, he's a great player.

48:16.575 --> 48:18.657 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's got a chance to make a lot of noise in Minnesota.

48:19.688 --> 48:34.164 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, and the fact that he's been injury prone and he's with the twins is not a great combination like that is something that I do worry about with twins players in particular for whatever reason they just can't keep anybody healthy.

48:36.086 --> 48:37.047 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean.

48:40.843 --> 48:42.323 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a hard known player, right?

48:42.503 --> 48:46.484 [SPEAKER_00]: Like just a guy that does a bunch of things really, really well.

48:46.925 --> 48:49.545 [SPEAKER_00]: The stolen bases make him valuable for fantasy.

48:50.626 --> 48:55.387 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to be in and I'm probably going to be one of the suckers that buys into him at too high of a price.

48:55.607 --> 49:01.528 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm in and I probably shouldn't be so perceived with caution on that one.

49:02.789 --> 49:04.569 [SPEAKER_00]: Dylan, I'm going to go back to you because it's your name.

49:04.589 --> 49:07.390 [SPEAKER_00]: Say, Dylan Pivers, are you in on your fellow Dylan?

49:09.307 --> 49:09.967 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough one.

49:11.368 --> 49:12.888 [SPEAKER_01]: Roba Scott loves Dylan Beaver's.

49:13.509 --> 49:24.553 [SPEAKER_01]: He seems to be doing relatively okay in the majors, kind of a 2020 bat, maybe platoon issues, but it would be a strong site platoon, but I like it.

49:24.673 --> 49:25.053 [SPEAKER_01]: I like him.

49:25.173 --> 49:28.955 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he won't be going that expensive.

49:29.255 --> 49:33.836 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that he'd probably be good value, and I'm still willing to take him.

49:35.317 --> 49:35.637 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

49:35.677 --> 49:36.638 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you say, Jacob?

49:36.678 --> 49:37.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you in on Beaver's?

49:38.185 --> 49:39.126 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm right there with Dylan.

49:39.566 --> 49:45.350 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that you can get Dylan Beaver's a great value and I'm pretty confident he's a good player.

49:45.650 --> 49:46.731 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm in.

49:47.592 --> 49:52.695 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think there's some platoon concerns there, but depending upon your league.

49:54.236 --> 50:01.058 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think you can play around that like carry carpenters been a valuable fantasy asset and he's a strong side platoon guy.

50:01.118 --> 50:09.341 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we'll see I think it's just a matter of him maybe being just productive enough against left handers and just in terms of, you know,

50:15.183 --> 50:22.748 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Orioles, you know, potentially could bounce back in a big way and be versus just shown really good under the lying doubt of particularly against right handers.

50:22.808 --> 50:24.329 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's just enough power.

50:24.429 --> 50:34.895 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm in and I think the price is probably going to be fairly reasonable if you want to have him as like your fourth or fifth outfielder in like a 20 team league.

50:35.036 --> 50:36.817 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think that's totally reasonable.

50:37.637 --> 50:40.059 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, the last one I'm going to throw out 30 guys,

50:43.881 --> 50:46.163 [SPEAKER_00]: are you in or are you out Jacob?

50:47.323 --> 50:53.828 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in and I actually think you can still get pretty good value on him depending on what league you're in and who you're doing it with.

50:54.808 --> 50:58.350 [SPEAKER_02]: The reds, not calling them up sooner, probably does you a favor there.

50:58.370 --> 51:01.452 [SPEAKER_02]: And then as far as the player goes, I'm a huge salestor fan.

51:01.492 --> 51:09.638 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm in both for the value, which I think is going to be pretty good, but also just regardless, I think he's worth your selection.

51:13.478 --> 51:16.560 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, Robas God's love, Celeste, or for two straight years now.

51:17.300 --> 51:20.642 [SPEAKER_01]: And I can't, I can't betray the robot.

51:20.702 --> 51:27.826 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I kind of think, you know, he could be like a Vince Vince, Vinnie Pasquantino type guy, you know, good average.

51:27.886 --> 51:31.548 [SPEAKER_01]: And then like 25 homerons, handful of steals.

51:31.568 --> 51:33.869 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think he's a sneaky Pasquantino.

51:35.710 --> 51:38.371 [SPEAKER_00]: A sneaky Pasquantino that sounds like,

51:41.625 --> 51:46.807 [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like a sandwich, you know, a sneaky past Quintino.

51:49.288 --> 51:56.230 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be like, well, that would be the first sandwich at my baseball theme sandwich shop that I'm starting next year.

51:56.690 --> 52:00.331 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys don't know about this, but locations to be determined.

52:00.811 --> 52:05.813 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to name up after prospect nicknames that Dylan comes up with while on the podcast.

52:06.924 --> 52:07.924 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys, it's pretty good.

52:07.944 --> 52:10.426 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we went through a whole bunch of prospects here.

52:10.726 --> 52:12.206 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she's been a whole bunch of rookies for 2025.

52:12.246 --> 52:15.328 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are prospects, some of them are not.

52:15.348 --> 52:27.733 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them will retain rookie eligibility going in to 20, 20, 20, six, like believe no one claim in South Stewart, beaver, and a handful of these other guys.

52:27.813 --> 52:32.655 [SPEAKER_00]: But thanks for joining me, Jacob, and Dylan, and all of you out there for listening.