<v Speaker 1>Jared, you, Katy, and Josh six one hundred.

<v Speaker 2>All right, I think the time has come to finally

<v Speaker 2>read this email that came in earlier in the week,

<v Speaker 2>and we've just been pushing it off and pushing it

<v Speaker 2>off because we've had other things pop up. But it

<v Speaker 2>is from Marissa, and phone lines are wide open if

<v Speaker 2>you want to call in three O three six nine

<v Speaker 2>one one mix three oh three six nine one sixteen

<v Speaker 2>forty nine. Here is what she has to say. She says,

<v Speaker 2>JKJ need you to settle a full on family feud here.

<v Speaker 2>I've got a twenty month old who loves to explore.

<v Speaker 2>Let me throw the brakes on this immediately. Just say

<v Speaker 2>almost two. Please, Oh oh, you're right, say I just

<v Speaker 2>I get so sick of the twenty month, twenty four months,

<v Speaker 2>twenty eight month. I've preached about it for years on

<v Speaker 2>this show. Just say almost two. The mental math you

<v Speaker 2>have to do right away is ridiculous. Almost come on,

<v Speaker 2>sixteen months. Let me start over. I need you to

<v Speaker 2>settle a full on family feud here. I've got an

<v Speaker 2>almost two year old who loves to explore. Okay, which

<v Speaker 2>is parent code for bolting after two absolutely panic induced

<v Speaker 2>shopping trips. Last week, I told my husband that I

<v Speaker 2>want to buy one of those child harnesses. My husband

<v Speaker 2>is acting like people will call CPS if they see

<v Speaker 2>a kid on alish. Meanwhile, he's perfectly fine watching me

<v Speaker 2>as I'm eight months pregnant waddle through target, huffing and

<v Speaker 2>puffing like I'm competing in the world's slowest triathlon. That's

<v Speaker 2>pretty funny. That's all mine, she says. I keep telling

<v Speaker 2>him it's not about locking our son down, it's about

<v Speaker 2>letting him explore without vanishing. Blah blah blah. She says,

<v Speaker 2>it's pure horror blah blah blah blah. My husband's solution

<v Speaker 2>is to always keep him in the stroller. But honestly,

<v Speaker 2>isn't that just more restrictive. Isn't that a more restrictive

<v Speaker 2>harness on wheels? Yeah, Now we're basically a house divided,

<v Speaker 2>team harness versus team stroller prison. And as if my

<v Speaker 2>husband wasn't enough, I've got mom the mom shaming brigade

<v Speaker 2>lining up against me. One friend has called me late,

<v Speaker 2>another said well, my child never needed a leash. And

<v Speaker 2>then there's always a mom claiming her toddler just holds

<v Speaker 2>her hands sweetly. While they stroll through Whole Foods. Oh please,

<v Speaker 2>she said, here's my question for you guys and your listeners.

<v Speaker 2>Am I a monster mom for wanting to leash my kid?

<v Speaker 2>What can you say to convince my hubs to relax

<v Speaker 2>a little? Love the show, love your guys's advice, And

<v Speaker 2>that's from Marissa. Now. Two things, phone lines are open

<v Speaker 2>three O three six nine one one mix three oh

<v Speaker 2>three six nine one sixteen forty nine if you want

<v Speaker 2>to sound off about putting your kid on a leash.

<v Speaker 2>Second thing, disclaimer, Yes, we understand that there are some

<v Speaker 2>children out there with some special needs, maybe they're on

<v Speaker 2>the spectrum, that need to have this.

<v Speaker 3>At all times to stay safe.

<v Speaker 2>We get it, we understand, we hear you, we see you,

<v Speaker 2>we feel you, we do This kid is not in

<v Speaker 2>this situation. Yeah, and there's a lot of kids like

<v Speaker 2>that that are not in that situation that just both

<v Speaker 2>they're crazy. Yeah, they don't behave And then you gotta

<v Speaker 2>throw a sham and then you look like that parent that,

<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, you look kind of goofy walking around

<v Speaker 2>the store with your kid on a leash.

<v Speaker 4>You do, but you have your kid and at the

<v Speaker 4>end of the day. That's the place I'd want to be.

<v Speaker 2>In at the end of the day. You have your kid,

<v Speaker 2>you have your kid. There's your disclaimer on that. So

<v Speaker 2>I see the lines ring in three oh three six

<v Speaker 2>nine one mix three oh three six nine one sixteen

<v Speaker 2>forty nine. Here is Jessica, Hike Jessica. Happy Friday.

<v Speaker 5>Yes, Happy Friday to you guys.

<v Speaker 2>Do well, we appreciate you for calling in. Are you

<v Speaker 2>team harness or team stroller prison?

<v Speaker 5>Well, honestly, I'm nanny full time, so I honestly believe

<v Speaker 5>in both. But when it comes to you know, kids

<v Speaker 5>don't want to be in the stroller. I think the

<v Speaker 5>leash is great, especially when they decide to run.

<v Speaker 6>Off and.

<v Speaker 5>Look at you like you're crazy and then keep running

<v Speaker 5>and you have to yell at them and people look

<v Speaker 5>at you like you're insane.

<v Speaker 2>Well no, we just look at you like you're a

<v Speaker 2>bad parent, that's all.

<v Speaker 3>But also know as a mom, I no I am

<v Speaker 3>meeting dad.

<v Speaker 4>No, I immediately I relate to it, and I feel

<v Speaker 4>for them because it is like I'll never forget one time,

<v Speaker 4>one time I went to go see Zoe's dad at work,

<v Speaker 4>and I walked into his kitchen you worked at a

<v Speaker 4>restaurant at the time, and I was like, Hey, He's like,

<v Speaker 4>where's the baby, And I'm.

<v Speaker 3>Like, oh my god, I left her in the car.

<v Speaker 4>Like you're you, I know, but your mommy brain is

<v Speaker 4>so scattered, especially when you first have them, when and

<v Speaker 4>when you're doing a million things.

<v Speaker 3>So I say, anything you can do, but.

<v Speaker 2>You still would have left the kid in the car,

<v Speaker 2>just with a leash on.

<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying, not not that specific thing.

<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying that it's very, very understandable for a

<v Speaker 4>mom to lose her mind for a moment because there's

<v Speaker 4>so many things going on. So if you want to

<v Speaker 4>have your kid on a leash so you don't have

<v Speaker 4>to worry about chasing them down.

<v Speaker 3>Never will I pass.

<v Speaker 4>Judgment on a mom who has her kid on a

<v Speaker 4>leash because I almost lost my baby.

<v Speaker 2>Oh, I totally judge with you. You know, Yeah, what

<v Speaker 2>do you want to say?

<v Speaker 5>Yes, I'll say one thing. So I went to the

<v Speaker 5>zoo with my nanny kids. So one is five and

<v Speaker 5>one is two and a half. Two and a half

<v Speaker 5>year old is nuts. She goes crazy. She decided to

<v Speaker 5>run away from us.

<v Speaker 6>I told her to stop.

<v Speaker 5>She looked at us. I didn't care, kept on running.

<v Speaker 5>She ran out of the zoo. I had the five

<v Speaker 5>year old to go and get her, and I'm like,

<v Speaker 5>what's happening. I was yelling so hard.

<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just get at the elephant and you just

<v Speaker 2>get sick of all those animals. At some point, jess

<v Speaker 2>and you both.

<v Speaker 6>You would be perfect.

<v Speaker 2>Are you in no thank you mom?

<v Speaker 3>No thank you?

<v Speaker 2>No thank you?

<v Speaker 6>You are thank you?

<v Speaker 2>You are a no thank you mom. I knew it.

<v Speaker 6>I knew it.

<v Speaker 3>They listen to that better if you screamed.

<v Speaker 2>Not a single kid on the planet listens to.

<v Speaker 3>No thank you. Yeah, you need to say it nice

<v Speaker 3>because that's.

<v Speaker 7>The name, Katie.

<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I hear you, Katie. Jessica. Yeah, it's like,

<v Speaker 2>don't move, you stay right here. You give them the

<v Speaker 2>pep talk before you get out of the car. I

<v Speaker 2>have two children that are fully functionally functioning children, teenagers

<v Speaker 2>that we never had to put a leash on them ever,

<v Speaker 2>because you tell them you stay here, you don't run off.

<v Speaker 2>You just tell them here's Kelly. Hi, Kelly, Hi there,

<v Speaker 2>good morning. So are you team leash ah?

<v Speaker 6>Yes?

<v Speaker 2>All rights? Why so?

<v Speaker 8>I have three children, they're adults now, but my middle

<v Speaker 8>child was a middle child. Yeah, she would just bowld

<v Speaker 8>as soon as you take her out of the car seat.

<v Speaker 8>And there's been times where I've you know, grabbed her

<v Speaker 8>from getting hit by a car. And I mean it

<v Speaker 8>was just finally we just I went and purchased a leash,

<v Speaker 8>and we had went to Disneyland and I got the

<v Speaker 8>ugliest looks. I had one in a stroller and she

<v Speaker 8>was like gun sitting for so long, you know what

<v Speaker 8>I mean, she was just ready to just kind of

<v Speaker 8>walk around, and so I pulled her out, had her

<v Speaker 8>on her leash automatically, and we were going through like

<v Speaker 8>this smaller area where the where like the goofy area

<v Speaker 8>and that, and I saw a mother who was just

<v Speaker 8>bawling her eyes out and screaming I lost my baby,

<v Speaker 8>and I'm like, thank God I have mine. Because there

<v Speaker 8>were so many people.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a crowded place. You got to keep eye

<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on for sure, Kelly, we appreciate you

<v Speaker 2>calling in. She's team leash. I took both my kids

<v Speaker 2>to Disneyland.

<v Speaker 3>I didn't have them.

<v Speaker 4>But that's the thing is like there's also two of you,

<v Speaker 4>Like what about single moms, single dads, you.

<v Speaker 2>Know, hold her hand, Hi, Kate, Uh huh, Hello, Hello

<v Speaker 2>your team leash. I'm guessing we got a lot of

<v Speaker 2>leash support.

<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah, I am my daughter. So my daughter's ten

<v Speaker 1>and she was a fantastic little two year old toddler.

<v Speaker 9>She always held my hand.

<v Speaker 10>She was always great.

<v Speaker 1>Now I have a little boy and he's my three major.

<v Speaker 1>He is just like the last caller where he runs,

<v Speaker 1>bolts out the car, he runs, tries to run into traffic.

<v Speaker 1>And I don't have a leash, but I can see

<v Speaker 1>why maybe I should get one, because you know, it's

<v Speaker 1>safety first, always safety first.

<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I you know, I put a air tag on him,

<v Speaker 9>so that's smart.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got those shoes now too. You can put

<v Speaker 2>them in the shoes, track of them. Yes, yes, yeah.

<v Speaker 1>He likes to play hide and seek, telling us.

<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, Kate, the ones that I've seen that

<v Speaker 2>I actually think are kind of cute. It's like a

<v Speaker 2>monkey that they wear as a backpack, and it looks

<v Speaker 2>like the monkey's hugging them and then it's got the

<v Speaker 2>leash on it. I will say those are pretty dark cute.

<v Speaker 6>Yes, they are cute.

<v Speaker 1>And by the time you're a mom or dad. You

<v Speaker 1>don't care what other people saying, you know.

<v Speaker 3>Especially when it comes to the safety of your kid.

<v Speaker 4>And wouldn't you agree that when it comes to being

<v Speaker 4>you said, yours is a three nature and when they're

<v Speaker 4>at that age, they're so curious that you're telling them no, it.

<v Speaker 3>Doesn't register you need to I didn't.

<v Speaker 4>Ye, sure did a great job. Okay for a three

<v Speaker 4>year old kid. They're so curious at that age. And

<v Speaker 4>nowadays with all of them, you know, like you just

<v Speaker 4>have to prepare.

<v Speaker 3>And I don't fault my kids once.

<v Speaker 4>I don't fault them at all for wanting to put

<v Speaker 4>them on leashes because sometimes it is needed.

<v Speaker 8>Kate.

<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you where I need a leashes on my

<v Speaker 2>wife and target because she wanders off and I can't.

<v Speaker 4>Right.

<v Speaker 9>I don't think it's the kids. They're just it's not

<v Speaker 9>that they don't listen. It's that we don't spank them,

<v Speaker 9>and we don't, you know, do things like that anymore.

<v Speaker 6>I know.

<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you know what I think it is, two, Kate,

<v Speaker 2>is there's too many parents who just generally aren't parenting

<v Speaker 2>and their heads are in their phones versus teaching their kids. Right, Oh,

<v Speaker 2>he her phone's going crazy anyway. That could be a

<v Speaker 2>huge part of it too. The parents just aren't. That's

<v Speaker 2>a great but they're they're more worried about what's on

<v Speaker 2>Instagram than keeping an eye on their kids. The next

<v Speaker 2>thing you know, you're, you know, taking pictures of Space

<v Speaker 2>Mountain and your kid's gone.

<v Speaker 3>Most of their.

<v Speaker 4>Story at Disney is that you're a better parent than

<v Speaker 4>someone else, though, and you're just passing judgment.

<v Speaker 3>And I never did that. I never did that. The

<v Speaker 3>universe is about to smack you upside. I'm totally doing guarantee.

<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you I'm a rock star parent.

<v Speaker 3>Guarantee.

<v Speaker 2>You never had a leash on my kids? Hiveronica, Hello,

<v Speaker 2>why do I feel like maybe Nana still has a

<v Speaker 2>leash on it?

<v Speaker 3>He doesn't.

<v Speaker 4>I never had to have a leash for Zoe, and

<v Speaker 4>I only almost lost her that one time.

<v Speaker 2>So then, so then why are you team leash Hibaronica?

<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

<v Speaker 2>Hello, hello, all right?

<v Speaker 3>Are you?

<v Speaker 6>Uh?

<v Speaker 7>Yeah? I have four children I raised and I literally

<v Speaker 7>had a security guard come up to me in Circus

<v Speaker 7>Circus and thank me for having my younger child on Elish.

<v Speaker 7>She said, you have no idea how many children go

<v Speaker 7>missing in here every night.

<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

<v Speaker 7>Definitely, it's better to let them explore and not have

<v Speaker 7>to worry with the dangers of falling in somewhere, being taken,

<v Speaker 7>running off, getting.

<v Speaker 6>Hit by a car.

<v Speaker 7>It's better for both parties, the parents and the children.

<v Speaker 9>There you go.

<v Speaker 2>You can sit at that slot machine all night long

<v Speaker 2>with that kid on right am I right, smoking your cigarettes,

<v Speaker 2>having cocktails kids right there?

<v Speaker 6>If I only played slot.

<v Speaker 2>Oh Roda, thank you for the laughs. Have a great weekend,

<v Speaker 2>all right, bye, all right, here's Pamela. Hi, Pamela.

<v Speaker 6>Hello, I'm sorry.

<v Speaker 2>Oh there you are, and it's okay. We've gotta We're

<v Speaker 2>gonna put Alsha on you and pull you back in here.

<v Speaker 6>So I'm a team. Whatever the mother needs to do

<v Speaker 6>to keep her saying nity. I raised three boys. I

<v Speaker 6>was a disciplinarian, so I didn't have to use a leash,

<v Speaker 6>but I did not look down my nose to parents

<v Speaker 6>who did. Fathers normally don't have to do.

<v Speaker 4>That, thank you.

<v Speaker 6>They tend to hear the father. I have a very

<v Speaker 6>glamorous niece. You know, she dresses in her heels. She's

<v Speaker 6>five nine and all that. She had a little boy

<v Speaker 6>who was very rambunctious, sounds just like this one kept

<v Speaker 6>running off. She did get one of those monkey backpacks

<v Speaker 6>and because she was like, oh, I would never do this,

<v Speaker 6>and then she had to deal with the horrors of

<v Speaker 6>him screaming out, Mommy, please take this monkey off my back.

<v Speaker 6>She said, she was so embarrassed. Everybody's looking at him.

<v Speaker 6>It was a little two year old requesting that this

<v Speaker 6>monkey be taking off his hat.

<v Speaker 4>So funny, Oh my gosh's hilarious.

<v Speaker 3>But did stop? Did it stop him from running off?

<v Speaker 6>Exactly? Because he kept hiding in the in the clothing.

<v Speaker 6>She couldn't find him. So mom has to do what's

<v Speaker 6>going to hold onto her sanity? The hell was what

<v Speaker 6>anybody else has to say? That's her child. She's responsible

<v Speaker 6>for her child. If Dad's got a problem with it,

<v Speaker 6>then dad takes them out.

<v Speaker 3>You're the voice of reason.

<v Speaker 2>This is like hitting home with you describing everything right now.

<v Speaker 6>My baby is thirty nine. And we went to KB

<v Speaker 6>mind you we would do the talks before we go

<v Speaker 6>to KB toys, and I told him I'm not getting anything.

<v Speaker 6>I said, do you understand? Yes, mommy, He sat down

<v Speaker 6>and gave me the biggest fit and all the threats

<v Speaker 6>in the world didn't work. I sat my behind down

<v Speaker 6>on the floor and started throwing a fit, and his

<v Speaker 6>eyes got big and he goes, you're mommy, you can't

<v Speaker 6>do that shit out of him.

<v Speaker 2>You were the mom of the year, You're your mom

<v Speaker 2>of the lifetime. I love you, I love this, and

<v Speaker 2>thank you for the memories of KB. I forgot about KB.

<v Speaker 6>So tell mom put her head up high, walk on

<v Speaker 6>and do what the heck she feels she needs to do,

<v Speaker 6>because that is her child.

<v Speaker 2>Mike, Pamela, I don't even know if we need to

<v Speaker 2>take any of the right kind of suck it up. Pamela,

<v Speaker 2>please call us with your life advice whenever the hell

<v Speaker 2>you want. Right, you have.

<v Speaker 6>A good usual man by right, bye? Bye?

<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know what j Yeah, I mean we got Patty.

<v Speaker 3>You got a.

<v Speaker 2>Patty, Hi, Patty.

<v Speaker 10>I'm sorry, talk to me.

<v Speaker 2>Pamela was so good? But what what what are your

<v Speaker 2>she kind out.

<v Speaker 3>So I was on tea.

<v Speaker 6>But you know, like, if the mom.

<v Speaker 10>Wants to keep for sanity, I get that too. Yeah,

<v Speaker 10>but my mom told me she resigned herself to the

<v Speaker 10>fact that I would probably be kidnapped by the age

<v Speaker 10>of six because whenever she let go of my hands,

<v Speaker 10>starting at like two years old, I would run up

<v Speaker 10>to the nearest strange man I didn't know, grab his

<v Speaker 10>hand and asked if he wanted to go play.

<v Speaker 2>Well, Katie does that now?

<v Speaker 7>Actually?

<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, all right, that's good.

<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you never got kidnapped, Patty.

<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

<v Speaker 2>You know my parents always did with me and my

<v Speaker 2>sister is they made us hold onto their back pocket.

<v Speaker 2>Whenever we went anywhere. It was always you had to

<v Speaker 2>hold on to our back pocket. And we did that

<v Speaker 2>for you. I did it well into high school.

<v Speaker 3>Mine was similar. Mine was the belt of the pocket.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that was always we went to the mall wherever,

<v Speaker 2>we always just had to hold on so parents knew

<v Speaker 2>we were right there and they could still do their thing.

<v Speaker 2>And that was a rule, like you do not let go.

<v Speaker 4>There was four of us in my family, and it

<v Speaker 4>was the big one watches the little one the whole.

<v Speaker 2>Time, North Dakota living as.

<v Speaker 3>I do it.

<v Speaker 2>Alex, Hey, okay, hey, so you get the final word

<v Speaker 2>on this team.

<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh, well I own team, know.

<v Speaker 2>Lee's okay, take your time.

<v Speaker 7>Jude, Okay, Well, first preface, like there's no judgment. This

<v Speaker 7>is just how I would do this. I think one

<v Speaker 7>of the differences is that it sounds like all the

<v Speaker 7>all the colors so far who are team Leash all

<v Speaker 7>have multiple children, right, and they're applying this to like, oh,

<v Speaker 7>I have my three kids or my four kids. And

<v Speaker 7>the initial issue lady I don't know what to color

<v Speaker 7>she She sounds like she only has one, and so

<v Speaker 7>she has all of these other options that her discolth right.

<v Speaker 7>She could hold the kid's hand, she could strap them

<v Speaker 7>into the stroller, she could strap them in to the cart,

<v Speaker 7>or if she uses the leash, she could use the leash.

<v Speaker 7>They're all equally good options for her to use, but

<v Speaker 7>they are all options that are open to this one kid. Yeah,

<v Speaker 7>and you know it's when I have all four of

<v Speaker 7>my kids at Costco. I'm sure that there are people

<v Speaker 7>who have thought, oh my gosh, that lady needs to

<v Speaker 7>put some of her kids on a leash because they

<v Speaker 7>are running around like psychopaths. But that's because I have

<v Speaker 7>two kids in the Costco cart. I have one holding

<v Speaker 7>my hand, I have one cant pushing the cart, and

<v Speaker 7>then the other kid I cannot restrain, and they're running

<v Speaker 7>around like a nutball.

<v Speaker 2>God bless you, God bless you, and you'd a Costco

<v Speaker 2>nightmare fuel sampleshere.

<v Speaker 5>So it's like that.

<v Speaker 7>One kid that I can't restrain because I am literally,

<v Speaker 7>like so outnumbered by all of my options. I don't

<v Speaker 7>have another option.

<v Speaker 2>Well, the only option you need is to, you know,

<v Speaker 2>before you get out of the minivan and go into

<v Speaker 2>Costco is give them all a shot a Nike will.

<v Speaker 7>Right, seriously, drill, drill for everybody. Drill, so, you know,

<v Speaker 7>with with one kid, though, I mean, how I don't

<v Speaker 7>see how a leash is any different from the stroller,

<v Speaker 7>is any different from the cart? Is any different from

<v Speaker 7>holding the kid's hand? At that point, you know what

<v Speaker 7>I mean, they all seem to be relatively the same

<v Speaker 7>kind of option. You know, if the kid is gonna

<v Speaker 7>gonna run off or not be listening, you have to

<v Speaker 7>You're gonna have to restrain him in some way, shape

<v Speaker 7>or form.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's nonetheless, right, it's a.

<v Speaker 7>Restraint, nonetheless. And so if you're going to restrain him,

<v Speaker 7>why use another restraint when you already have a cart

<v Speaker 7>or you already have the stroller. The leash doesn't seem

<v Speaker 7>like much of a different option right.

<v Speaker 2>Very good points, Alex. Godspeed to you.

<v Speaker 3>I knows well.

<v Speaker 7>Have you see me in Costco?

<v Speaker 2>No, honestly, I'll turn the other way and go to

<v Speaker 2>a different direction. Honestly, you know what.

<v Speaker 6>Thank you, You're welcome.

<v Speaker 2>Have a good weekend, have a good week you great calls,

<v Speaker 2>great advice from all the parents today. Appreciate you guys

<v Speaker 2>so much. Josh will be using a lash this weekend,

<v Speaker 2>but for different things.

<v Speaker 3>Hey, you know a car