1 00:00:36,009 --> 00:00:41,091 JHIH HAN LYU: So we see the pangolins here and we have the 2 00:00:41,318 --> 00:00:43,295 crab-eating mongoose. 3 00:00:46,976 --> 00:00:48,858 JESSE EDBROOKE: That's the sound of a Taiwan eagle. 4 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:54,743 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Taiwan is an island in the South China Sea 5 00:00:54,923 --> 00:00:58,509 and it is one of the most high-tech places on Earth. It's 6 00:00:58,587 --> 00:01:00,790 also connected with each of our lives. 7 00:01:02,892 --> 00:01:06,892 Hsinchu City is like the Silicon Valley of Taiwan and is not far 8 00:01:06,970 --> 00:01:11,275 from the capital Taipei. Rows of factories and foundries produce 9 00:01:11,276 --> 00:01:14,958 90% of the most advanced chips in the world that power 10 00:01:15,118 --> 00:01:18,341 everything from the phones in our hand, the computers on our 11 00:01:18,380 --> 00:01:22,349 desks, smart speakers, even the satellites orbiting above us. 12 00:01:23,904 --> 00:01:27,302 But in such a futuristic landscape, what does it take to 13 00:01:27,349 --> 00:01:30,427 look after wildlife that is fighting for its place and 14 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:30,990 survival? 15 00:01:36,505 --> 00:01:40,618 I'm Ranger Rosie Holdsworth. For this episode, podcast producer 16 00:01:40,677 --> 00:01:44,361 Jesse Edbrooke travels to the forest in Taiwan on the trail of 17 00:01:44,380 --> 00:01:45,982 some incredible wildlife. 18 00:01:49,790 --> 00:01:53,392 Welcome to Wild Tales in Nature Valley, Taiwan. 19 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:09,913 Jesse has taken the 40-minute high-speed rail journey from 20 00:02:09,991 --> 00:02:13,737 Taipei in the north to Hsinchu, a bustling high-tech city. 21 00:02:16,698 --> 00:02:19,964 He's here to meet Han, who is helping to care for a former 22 00:02:20,003 --> 00:02:23,862 plantation that's been placed in a trust to help protect wildlife 23 00:02:23,925 --> 00:02:26,612 for the Nature Valley Environmental Charity Trust, 24 00:02:26,769 --> 00:02:27,190 Taiwan. 25 00:02:33,316 --> 00:02:36,018 JHIH HAN LYU: I think the weather is so nice. So it's like 26 00:02:36,079 --> 00:02:36,720 summer day. 27 00:02:36,721 --> 00:02:40,061 JESSE EDBROOKE: It's so beautiful. So we're driving into 28 00:02:40,062 --> 00:02:45,030 the mountains. Lots of amazing different types of trees. These 29 00:02:45,031 --> 00:02:45,850 banana trees? 30 00:02:46,069 --> 00:02:47,054 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah, banana trees. 31 00:02:47,171 --> 00:02:47,827 JESSE EDBROOKE: Wow, okay. 32 00:02:48,694 --> 00:02:50,413 JHIH HAN LYU: It's really different from England, right? 33 00:02:50,414 --> 00:02:51,647 JESSE EDBROOKE: It is, yeah, absolutely. 34 00:02:53,632 --> 00:02:56,944 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah, you can see the bamboos here. It's called 35 00:02:57,647 --> 00:02:58,085 Gui zhu. 36 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:01,147 JESSE EDBROOKE: So that's a special type of bamboo, is it? 37 00:03:01,382 --> 00:03:03,713 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah. And you can eat it. 38 00:03:03,713 --> 00:03:04,133 JESSE EDBROOKE: Oh, can you? 39 00:03:04,475 --> 00:03:07,438 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah, in the spring. I will have the younger 40 00:03:07,598 --> 00:03:11,883 one. Yeah, and you can cut and eat it. 41 00:03:11,883 --> 00:03:13,727 JESSE EDBROOKE: Can you eat it fresh or do you have to cook it? 42 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:15,446 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah, you have to cook it. 43 00:03:15,446 --> 00:03:15,563 JESSE EDBROOKE: Ok. 44 00:03:16,524 --> 00:03:20,086 JHIH HAN LYU: And it's a kind of traditional dish in Hakka 45 00:03:20,211 --> 00:03:20,696 culture. 46 00:03:20,883 --> 00:03:21,446 JESSE EDBROOKE: Yeah, it's interesting. 47 00:03:22,633 --> 00:03:25,118 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: In Taiwan, people talk about food in a 48 00:03:25,211 --> 00:03:27,618 similar way to British people talking about the weather. 49 00:03:28,128 --> 00:03:31,809 There's always a delicious local speciality dish in each town or 50 00:03:31,868 --> 00:03:36,872 city. Bubble tea, xiao long bao and beef noodles are some famous 51 00:03:36,926 --> 00:03:40,348 dishes that are now easy to find in many places around the world. 52 00:03:46,747 --> 00:03:47,731 JESSE EDBROOKE: So this is beautiful. 53 00:03:48,215 --> 00:03:52,747 JHIH HAN LYU: This is also a Hakka house. And we are in Chong 54 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,075 Lin district. 55 00:03:54,778 --> 00:03:56,528 JESSE EDBROOKE: So we're surrounded on all sides by 56 00:03:56,575 --> 00:03:57,913 the... The forest... 57 00:03:58,013 --> 00:03:58,273 JHIH HAN LYU: Yes. 58 00:03:59,534 --> 00:04:02,235 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: This 1.8 hectare area of forest has been 59 00:04:02,415 --> 00:04:06,024 many things. In the 1970s, the slopes were planted with tea 60 00:04:06,103 --> 00:04:09,626 trees. Later, it was bought by a business and the slopes were 61 00:04:09,642 --> 00:04:13,415 populated with several different kinds of orange tree. And then, 62 00:04:13,665 --> 00:04:17,915 in 2011, the owner of the land donated it to Trust In Nature 63 00:04:17,931 --> 00:04:21,962 Foundation Taiwan, the very first environmental charitable 64 00:04:21,993 --> 00:04:22,899 trust in Taiwan. 65 00:04:23,524 --> 00:04:25,976 JESSE EDBROOKE: And so we've got these wooden tables. It's set 66 00:04:26,016 --> 00:04:28,418 up, it's almost like for a picnic, with people coming to 67 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:28,959 have a picnic here. 68 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,401 JHIH HAN LYU: It's kind of open to the public, so we will do 69 00:04:32,502 --> 00:04:34,862 some education activities here. 70 00:04:35,346 --> 00:04:37,869 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: For the local haka community, it was important 71 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:40,971 that their identity was celebrated. Han, the section 72 00:04:41,049 --> 00:04:44,049 chief of the Environmental Trust Centre, explains more. 73 00:04:44,549 --> 00:04:49,377 JHIH HAN LYU: There are more than 500 species living here. So 74 00:04:49,987 --> 00:04:53,930 the first time I knew about this, I was... Wow, it's 75 00:04:54,031 --> 00:04:58,358 amazing. I didn't expect there would be so many species around 76 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:58,557 me. 77 00:04:59,620 --> 00:05:01,342 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Part of the success of the project was 78 00:05:01,381 --> 00:05:04,452 engaging with the local haka community, and Nature Valley 79 00:05:04,592 --> 00:05:07,671 involved local children in conservation and appreciating 80 00:05:07,694 --> 00:05:11,632 the rare indigenous wildlife. What was once an abandoned farm 81 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:13,835 was becoming something else entirely. 82 00:05:14,617 --> 00:05:17,937 A place where the past, the rhythms of farming, began to 83 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,906 meet a new future where land was valued not for what it produced 84 00:05:22,062 --> 00:05:27,007 but for the life it sheltered. There are 25 protected species 85 00:05:27,054 --> 00:05:28,429 that can be found in the forest. 86 00:05:28,945 --> 00:05:31,570 JHIH HAN LYU: So we see the pangolins here. 87 00:05:32,195 --> 00:05:34,132 JESSE EDBROOKE: So they're very rare, aren't they, pangolins? 88 00:05:34,398 --> 00:05:34,617 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah. 89 00:05:35,195 --> 00:05:37,804 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Pangolins are shy, nocturnal mammals with 90 00:05:37,976 --> 00:05:41,170 armoured scales and... Powerful digging skills. They're a 91 00:05:41,209 --> 00:05:44,373 keystone species with a critical role in controlling 92 00:05:44,393 --> 00:05:48,354 biodiversity. They're adept at climbing trees and usually eat 93 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,104 20,000 ants and termites every day with a long, sticky tongue. 94 00:05:53,822 --> 00:05:56,940 Taiwan has successfully helped pangolin numbers to recover 95 00:05:57,018 --> 00:05:57,846 significantly. 96 00:05:58,705 --> 00:06:02,705 JHIH HAN LYU: And we have the crab-eating mongoose here. 97 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:05,486 JESSE EDBROOKE: Wow. So how big do they grow to and what do they 98 00:06:05,549 --> 00:06:05,955 look like? 99 00:06:06,252 --> 00:06:06,800 JHIH HAN LYU: I think like this... 100 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,408 JESSE EDBROOKE: They're quite big. 101 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:08,658 JHIH HAN LYU: Maybe one meter. 102 00:06:08,911 --> 00:06:09,772 JESSE EDBROOKE: One metre? 103 00:06:10,052 --> 00:06:11,873 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah, including the long tail. 104 00:06:12,715 --> 00:06:14,819 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: The crab-eating mongoose is a stocky 105 00:06:14,897 --> 00:06:18,498 predator with a coarse grey coat and a distinctive pale stripe 106 00:06:18,522 --> 00:06:22,842 along its side. It moves with cat-like grace. True to its 107 00:06:22,928 --> 00:06:26,264 name, it prowls the edges of rivers and ponds, prying under 108 00:06:26,327 --> 00:06:29,905 rocks and roots for crabs, frogs, snails and the occasional 109 00:06:29,998 --> 00:06:30,248 fish. 110 00:06:30,858 --> 00:06:33,920 Unlike many of its relatives, this mongoose is comfortable in 111 00:06:33,936 --> 00:06:38,464 water, swimming and diving with ease. The numbers in Taiwan are 112 00:06:38,465 --> 00:06:40,907 growing as they live in this protected habitat. 113 00:06:41,768 --> 00:06:44,510 JHIH HAN LYU: Many years ago, the people in the village, they 114 00:06:44,549 --> 00:06:49,995 don't see this animal often. So it's changing. We are curious 115 00:06:50,057 --> 00:06:50,557 about this. 116 00:06:51,018 --> 00:06:53,252 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: As Jesse moved through the forest to the top of 117 00:06:53,253 --> 00:06:56,674 the incline, he was treated to the sound of an iconic bird 118 00:06:56,815 --> 00:06:58,049 soaring above the trees. 119 00:06:59,518 --> 00:07:00,690 JHIH HAN LYU: The sound of eagles. 120 00:07:04,847 --> 00:07:06,930 JESSE EDBROOKE: So that's the sound of a Taiwan eagle. 121 00:07:09,653 --> 00:07:12,215 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: The eagles are crested serpent eagles which 122 00:07:12,356 --> 00:07:16,657 soar above the mountaintops in Taiwan. They mainly hunt snakes 123 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,743 and lizards, although they'll eat mammals and small frogs too. 124 00:07:20,789 --> 00:07:23,883 And there was also danger from one of the starkly black and 125 00:07:23,899 --> 00:07:24,852 yellow insects. 126 00:07:25,727 --> 00:07:27,493 JESSE EDBROOKE: Oh look, there's a really big spider. Hey look, 127 00:07:27,494 --> 00:07:28,774 my kids will be so scared. 128 00:07:30,446 --> 00:07:31,711 JHIH HAN LYU: The poisonous spider. 129 00:07:31,727 --> 00:07:34,980 JESSE EDBROOKE: Yes, it's the poisonous spider. I'm gonna tell 130 00:07:35,020 --> 00:07:35,140 them. 131 00:07:35,141 --> 00:07:36,521 JHIH HAN LYU: But it won't kill you. 132 00:07:37,203 --> 00:07:39,343 JESSE EDBROOKE: That's what I heard. Every spider in Taiwan is 133 00:07:39,382 --> 00:07:40,765 poisonous. They just don't kill you. 134 00:07:41,226 --> 00:07:44,609 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah. I mean the spider won't... They don't want 135 00:07:44,632 --> 00:07:47,672 to bite you. They only want the food. 136 00:07:48,211 --> 00:07:50,875 JESSE EDBROOKE: Yeah, yeah. And those spiders, they can grow 137 00:07:50,937 --> 00:07:51,703 quite big, can't they? 138 00:07:52,015 --> 00:07:58,494 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah. They will be... Go like... It's like my 139 00:07:58,574 --> 00:07:58,814 hand. 140 00:07:58,815 --> 00:08:00,175 JESSE EDBROOKE: It can get as big as your hand? 141 00:08:00,176 --> 00:08:03,281 JHIH HAN LYU: Yeah, the female one. Wow. The female one is 142 00:08:03,359 --> 00:08:04,937 bigger than the male. 143 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,781 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: The giant wood spider is the largest spider in 144 00:08:08,828 --> 00:08:12,804 Taiwan and also one of the most common, with golden hairs on its 145 00:08:12,851 --> 00:08:16,648 back. If a human is bitten, the venom can cause symptoms such as 146 00:08:16,726 --> 00:08:20,398 nausea and vomiting. It's not life-threatening. The silk the 147 00:08:20,429 --> 00:08:23,820 spiders weave is so strong it can be made into spider silk 148 00:08:23,898 --> 00:08:24,398 clothes. 149 00:08:28,899 --> 00:08:32,322 Looking after Nature Valley is no mean feat and the team are 150 00:08:32,482 --> 00:08:33,204 always busy. 151 00:08:34,743 --> 00:08:36,790 JESSE EDBROOKE: So tell me what kinds of responsibilities you 152 00:08:36,829 --> 00:08:38,290 have in looking after the land? 153 00:08:38,572 --> 00:08:41,275 JHIH HAN LYU: We need to maintain this habitat because we 154 00:08:41,314 --> 00:08:45,290 need to protect the forest like this. It's a low elevation 155 00:08:45,415 --> 00:08:46,056 forest. 156 00:08:47,134 --> 00:08:49,181 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Han explained why she gave up a promising 157 00:08:49,212 --> 00:08:52,243 career in law to work in the charity sector, caring for the 158 00:08:52,244 --> 00:08:52,743 forest. 159 00:08:54,025 --> 00:08:56,728 JESSE EDBROOKE: What was it like the first day when you stopped 160 00:08:56,868 --> 00:09:00,721 working in law in an office and walked into the jungle? 161 00:09:02,104 --> 00:09:07,350 JHIH HAN LYU: Oh, I feel like I get some freedom because I like 162 00:09:07,686 --> 00:09:13,170 walking in the mountains or doing some hiking. To me, it 163 00:09:13,217 --> 00:09:17,577 keeps me that I can feel I'm alive. It's not sitting in a 164 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:22,623 building all day long. I feel happy when I do this job. Yeah. 165 00:09:24,135 --> 00:09:28,438 Sometimes I will talk with the visitors. They will give me some 166 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:32,422 really good feedback. I think it's a meaningful part of my 167 00:09:32,625 --> 00:09:32,985 job. 168 00:09:33,961 --> 00:09:35,610 JESSE EDBROOKE: Yeah, so what kind of feedback will they give 169 00:09:35,625 --> 00:09:35,743 you? 170 00:09:35,985 --> 00:09:38,907 JHIH HAN LYU: They see the special things in a common 171 00:09:38,969 --> 00:09:42,477 place. They can build connection with this land. 172 00:09:43,321 --> 00:09:44,961 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Building connection with nature helps 173 00:09:44,993 --> 00:09:48,211 enthuse locals and protect the land. But there are also 174 00:09:48,305 --> 00:09:52,592 individuals helping to keep the Hakka culture alive. Not far 175 00:09:52,652 --> 00:09:55,934 from the Nature Valley in Chong Lin is a studio where sounds are 176 00:09:55,935 --> 00:09:57,796 being created to further this mission. 177 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,202 Jesse spent time chatting with a three times platinum and 178 00:10:05,303 --> 00:10:08,585 multi-gold melody winning artist who's written, produced and 179 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,632 performed music all over Asia. 180 00:10:12,897 --> 00:10:15,741 His music's been streamed hundreds of millions of times 181 00:10:15,835 --> 00:10:19,303 and his latest album was recorded powered only by solar 182 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:22,076 energy. He's also of Hakka origin. 183 00:10:22,377 --> 00:10:24,059 JESSE EDBROOKE: We're here in the studio and please can you 184 00:10:24,098 --> 00:10:24,879 introduce yourself? 185 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,082 WING LO : Yeah, hello everyone. My name is Wing. Welcome to my 186 00:10:28,141 --> 00:10:28,523 house. 187 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:29,125 JESSE EDBROOKE: Great. 188 00:10:29,305 --> 00:10:29,523 WING LO : Yeah. 189 00:10:33,969 --> 00:10:35,492 JESSE EDBROOKE: Can you please say a little bit about your 190 00:10:35,570 --> 00:10:35,969 music? 191 00:10:36,391 --> 00:10:41,562 JOSHUA EDBROOKE: Wayne was explaining that he used to write 192 00:10:41,719 --> 00:10:45,312 predominantly in Mandarin Chinese until around about 10 193 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:50,057 years ago he discovered that the Hakka language in Taiwan was on 194 00:10:50,058 --> 00:10:53,014 the demise. And there were less and less people who were 195 00:10:53,054 --> 00:10:53,975 speaking Hakka. 196 00:10:55,275 --> 00:10:58,277 And actually, if this trend continues, the Hakka language 197 00:10:58,379 --> 00:11:02,746 would die out in Taiwan. And Wing, whose mother tongue is 198 00:11:02,863 --> 00:11:07,246 Hakka, decided that actually music is one of the best tools 199 00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:12,691 of language preservation. And so he started to write pop songs in 200 00:11:12,832 --> 00:11:13,066 Hakka. 201 00:11:17,576 --> 00:11:19,278 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Wing's songs have now become part of a new 202 00:11:19,398 --> 00:11:23,542 wave of pop culture celebrating the Hakka identity. He explained 203 00:11:23,562 --> 00:11:25,984 what characterises this Hakka sense of identity. 204 00:11:30,773 --> 00:11:33,414 JOSHUA EDBROOKE: The Chinese word in Mandarin to describe the 205 00:11:33,429 --> 00:11:39,023 Hakka people, Ke Jiaren. The Ke, it represents a guest or someone 206 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,585 who is from another place. And that slightly represents the 207 00:11:43,664 --> 00:11:46,620 ancestors of the Hakka people in Taiwan who have come from 208 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:49,241 elsewhere. They've come from other lands and settled in 209 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:49,841 Taiwan. 210 00:11:50,702 --> 00:11:54,265 And when you emigrate in that sense, you have to start from 211 00:11:54,304 --> 00:11:58,765 nothing. So then in music and cultural terms, then you also 212 00:11:58,983 --> 00:12:03,288 have traditional songs that have come out of that sense of 213 00:12:03,382 --> 00:12:08,444 building up a life from zero. So Wing mentioned the Shan ge, like 214 00:12:08,445 --> 00:12:11,788 the mountain songs of the Hakka people, and other kind of 215 00:12:11,866 --> 00:12:13,288 traditional folk music. 216 00:12:13,444 --> 00:12:17,110 But what Wing's doing is taking those elements of the language 217 00:12:17,111 --> 00:12:20,133 and the culture, but putting them into pop music, pop videos, 218 00:12:20,352 --> 00:12:23,758 even the live concerts that he's doing, to make it accessible. 219 00:12:24,157 --> 00:12:28,180 Put that identity in, but to kind of let identity evolve so 220 00:12:28,243 --> 00:12:29,579 that it can remain. 221 00:12:30,344 --> 00:12:31,922 JESSE EDBROOKE: Thank you so much, Wing. Yeah, I really 222 00:12:31,969 --> 00:12:32,641 appreciate it. 223 00:12:32,642 --> 00:12:34,547 WING LO : My pleasure. Great. 224 00:12:41,813 --> 00:12:44,209 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: Returning to Nature Valley. As with any 225 00:12:44,269 --> 00:12:48,151 charity, fundraising is key. In order to keep looking after the 226 00:12:48,174 --> 00:12:51,674 wildlife and employing staff, the charity has to raise funds. 227 00:12:52,401 --> 00:12:54,580 JESSE EDBROOKE: This afternoon, you're going to the high-speed 228 00:12:54,635 --> 00:12:56,760 rail station. Yeah. What are you going to do there? 229 00:12:56,940 --> 00:13:00,041 JHIH HAN LYU: Well, we will go to the car park to receive our 230 00:13:00,229 --> 00:13:04,307 donation box. When you buy some food in a convenience store, you 231 00:13:04,308 --> 00:13:09,026 will get a kind of receipt. And the receipt, you can check the 232 00:13:09,135 --> 00:13:12,916 numbers. If the number is correct, you will get money. 233 00:13:13,580 --> 00:13:19,027 Yeah, it's like 200 Taiwanese dollars or 10 million. Biggest 234 00:13:19,226 --> 00:13:20,828 one. Okay. Yeah, 10 million. 235 00:13:20,829 --> 00:13:23,371 JESSE EDBROOKE: That's an amazing way of supporting you. 236 00:13:23,449 --> 00:13:27,230 So everything you buy from a bottle of water, some sweets, 237 00:13:27,316 --> 00:13:29,863 you can just get the receipt, pop it in the box, and then it's 238 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:33,535 a chance that you might win the lottery. Yeah, yeah. And pay the 239 00:13:33,566 --> 00:13:33,785 tax. 240 00:13:37,708 --> 00:13:38,660 JHIH HAN LYU: And buy the trail camera. 241 00:13:40,004 --> 00:13:41,582 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: And how about plans for the future? 242 00:13:42,144 --> 00:13:46,043 JHIH HAN LYU: Or once. We can get more and more trust land. So 243 00:13:47,025 --> 00:13:51,928 we can show what we do here to the public that environmental 244 00:13:52,029 --> 00:13:56,756 trust, it can be successful. Yes. It can protect nature 245 00:13:56,795 --> 00:13:57,451 forever. 246 00:13:59,764 --> 00:14:01,873 ROSIE HOLDSWORTH: And with that, it was time to thank Han and her 247 00:14:01,951 --> 00:14:05,623 team and get back on the Taiwan high-speed rail from Hsinchu to 248 00:14:05,701 --> 00:14:06,186 Taipei. 249 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,163 Today, Nature Valley is more than 1.8 hectares of land. It's 250 00:14:16,164 --> 00:14:20,049 a bridge between technology and tradition, between endangered 251 00:14:20,088 --> 00:14:23,674 species and everyday life, between the Hakka past and 252 00:14:23,729 --> 00:14:24,776 Taiwan's future. 253 00:14:25,096 --> 00:14:28,409 And so, on the edge of the world's most advanced technology 254 00:14:28,471 --> 00:14:32,128 hub, pangolins dig their burrows, children are enthused 255 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,643 about conservation, and an old Hakka house welcomes new 256 00:14:35,768 --> 00:14:40,800 stories. In this small valley, the wild and the human find a 257 00:14:40,820 --> 00:14:42,101 way to harmonise together. 258 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:59,920 Thanks for listening to this episode of Wild Tales. If you 259 00:14:59,951 --> 00:15:03,897 liked it, why not give us a like or a follow? Don't forget your 260 00:15:03,957 --> 00:15:06,900 National Trust membership also offers you access to Nature 261 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,982 Valley Environmental Trust as it's part of the International 262 00:15:10,045 --> 00:15:11,685 National Trust's organisation. 263 00:15:13,006 --> 00:15:15,631 We'll be back soon with another episode in a couple of weeks. 264 00:15:15,865 --> 00:15:18,514 But if you can't wait that long, why not check out our other 265 00:15:18,553 --> 00:15:22,389 nature podcast, Nature Fix. Or if you like your history too, 266 00:15:22,654 --> 00:15:25,170 there's Back When. I'll see you next time.