Giving Your Girlfriend A Curfew
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Speaker: [00:00:00] Hey everybody, my name is Jessica and I'm here to say I like podcasting in a major way. We got Reagan hayton on the man and Checo trying to get picked again. Take it Reagan.

How's

Speaker 2: do it? How long have you had that?

Speaker: That was, that was off. That was my amazing freestyle. Wrapping skills. Today's show is sponsored by the concept of cats.

Speaker 2: That's it. Thoughts and ideas.

Speaker: That's whatever. Whatever you think of when you imagine cats. That's who's sponsoring us today.

Speaker 2: Wonderful. Jessica, I can't keep together.

I'm literally crying.

Speaker: Do you need me to drop a beat for you to do your rap?

Speaker 2: I will not be rapping. I'm not allowed. Oh, oh, oh. Not that. In what rap do people go? [00:01:00]

Speaker: Listen, if you did not listen to, uh, rap in the eighties, then you don't know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2: I was not alive. So

Speaker: to be fair, it was also, uh, not terrible when they did it.

So that's, yeah, it wasn't that, it's hard to, it's hard to get, you know, I'm, I am making fun. Like my me trying to do this funny is, is. I, let's just move. Hey, welcome to the podcast with Reagan and CHASCo. This is, this is why I have to start. I've been here the whole time. Sam Rice. What?

Speaker 2: What? Whatcha talking about?

What

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Speaker 2: Jessica, are you having a mental breakdown?

Speaker: Yeah. What is this? We didn't do a pre-show today. I didn't have a chance to get this outta my system. [00:02:00] Normally, that's where this all comes out, friends, and then we get to the show and we're like.

Business, business, business, business business, business

Speaker 2: business. Checo had a prior engagement. So we are doing the pre-show at a different time, or no pre-show, TPT. And so we're just starting with the chaos and the craziness. So

Speaker: speaking of which, they said I might have to get my wisdom teeth out.

Speaker 2: Oh, don't want that.

It's so bad. I swelled up like a pumpkin. Mm-hmm. I literally looked like. A relative of myself, like I did not

Speaker 3: mm-hmm. Look

Speaker 2: like the same person. I once showed a photo of myself after getting my wisdom teeth out. Mm-hmm. And the guy I showed it to, we were all laughing and I showed it to this guy and he goes, I don't know why you're all laughing.

Who is that?

I'll be so bad. I

Speaker: would be interested. I don't, um, I don't know if this is something that's wrong with me medically. I don't get, like, I don't swell and I don't get bruises. I haven't had a bruise in like 25 years. [00:03:00] Should I be worried?

Speaker 4: I don't know what I need to be. Doctors listening.

Speaker: I'm, I'm not, Jo. I have literally, no matter how I've been hit hard enough to get a bruise.

I don't, I just don't bruise. Om opposite. I get a bruise, like 10 bruises a day. Oh, same thing. My wife too. My, my kids. Everybody bruises. I don't, I, I, I should probably have Googled this before I talk about this. Someone's gonna say, Hey, you should, you need to delete that. He needs to go to a hospital now. 25 years steps.

It's a miracle he's even alive right now.

Speaker 2: Oh God. Hey friends. Well, full disclosure. If you've sensed any weirdness from this Reagan, any chance Reagan messed up the

Speaker: entire show?

Speaker 2: Oh my God, Jessica, she found us a

Speaker: clip that was clearly a sketch and, uh, didn't realize it wasn't me, was not me.

Speaker 2: Jessica brought a clip that I had not seen prior to recording as we played it.

Yeah, as we [00:04:00] normally do. I. Did almost no investigating and realized it was fake.

Speaker: Listen, sometimes I have trouble picking up on social cues. It felt real to me. He's a good actor. He's a good actor.

Speaker 2: Maybe you haven't had to deal with as many fake videos. 'cause that one, yeah,

Speaker: well now that you, after you said it, it was very clearly not real.

In the moment though,

Speaker 2: when I said, Hey, this is a man pretending to be this man's wife.

Speaker: And it didn't, and it wasn't until you said that, that I listened to it again. I was like, oh, that's, I think that's his voice, isn't it?

Speaker 2: Tesco was not on his investigation game, you know, I also clicked, I clicked the profile and saw that they're all skits.

You know, what was the dead giveaway? Tesco. The face in the icon was the face of the man that was being recorded, which usually means that this page, [00:05:00]

Speaker: so he wasn't just. Do, like, I don't know. I'm just, I've had a real busy week. Life is hard. If you, if you all wanna see, we'll throw, we'll throw a, a clip of me not understanding humans into the, the Patreon free show.

That'll be the,

Speaker 2: that'll be our pre-show. Is this clip

Speaker: is, you can all laugh at checo not understanding. Reality and being fooled by a jokester, by a, it was, it was meant to, it worked on me. I think it, I said beforehand, I thought it was meant to be rage bait. I did say that, right. I just, I didn't realize why that I was missing everything else.

That if you understood life, you wouldn't be fooled. But we found, uh, we found something else to talk about. Yeah, we did. We did.

Speaker 2: So what? What's that? Just go, [00:06:00]

Speaker: what did I

Speaker 2: send you again? Oh, it's this very real Jesus, it made out of mac and cheese that he found. Definitely not a,

Speaker: I bought it on TikTok shop. It was ama.

I can't wait to get it.

Speaker 2: He can't wait for his package to drive.

Speaker: Have you fall. Have you ever accidentally fallen for one of those before? Like one of those like scam things.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I, I have fallen for like not understanding or being lied to perhaps about the size of something. Mm-hmm. Like, like a chair cushion that I thought was like, I have this big, like, uh, papasan, what are these called?

Speaker: Sure. I know what you're talking about. I don't, I'm, I'm gonna, that sounds right.

Speaker 2: Whatever. And I bought a cushion and like it comes in and it literally fits like. A tiny kitchen chair like it was Not at all Edgar. I was like, damn,

Speaker: I bought this like 10 years ago before, uh, I realized how much scamming was on social media.

Like sales and everything.

Speaker 5: Yeah. [00:07:00]

Speaker: And it was, it was a supposedly. An Iron Man mask that was like fully automated. Oh no. And I was so excited about it and what should have given me given away is that it was so cheap. And at the time I was like, how are they selling this for so little? So it was, I didn't lose a lot.

I guess that's the one thankful part is I didn't lose a lot of money on this, but I was so excited about it. Weeks went by and it finally shows up. It was just a plastic, like kids' mask. Brutal. I was, because I did cosplay at the time, but like I had like Comic Con and stuff and I was so excited. I was like, this is gonna be amazing.

The greatest thing ever. I'm gonna show up people and it'll be like, yeah, look how cool I am as Iron Man. No, it was, it was literally one of those like $5 masks you buy at a Halloween store.

Speaker 2: One of my favorite ones was like, it was this like ornate, like [00:08:00] door dressing, like mm-hmm. It was like a wreath and all this stuff. Mm-hmm. And this woman, woman bought it and she's like, oh my God, it's so cheap. And she gets it, it is a printed sheet of the door. Like of the image? Mm-hmm. Of the thing. So she, the sheet of a door.

Speaker 3: It's

Speaker: like

Speaker 2: close and I mean it's not false advertising because it wasn't technically.

Speaker: Yeah, it's probably written on there somewhere. May not or be real. Maybe.

Speaker 3: Maybe scammed

Speaker: might be a picture. This is what it will look like this. This is what it will. It's too literal look like.

Speaker 2: It will

Speaker: look. Just

Speaker 2: this photo.

Yes.

Speaker: Uh oh shit. This has been a 35 minute intro to our podcast.

Speaker 2: We're off the rails. We're tired, but we're here. We are. So chesca, what are we talking about today?

Speaker: Setting boundaries for your, your partner.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker: Theme song.

Speaker 6: You want bad [00:09:00] advice, man. I'll give it out. Glad you, I got some good advice for you. No, you don't.

I know you don't. I got some good advice for you. No, you don't.

Speaker 4: I know you don't. Shit, we'll,

Speaker: we'll listen to the video in a second. I think this, this video, we'll talk about it after, but, uh, it gets at, it's, it's a very common theme online where, where men do not understand the difference between. A boundary versus just control, right?

And, and just like, no, no, no, no. I'm setting a boundary. Do everything I say at all times or else punishment, right? Mm-hmm. And so let's

Speaker 2: let it roll, let it rip. Is this gonna be like a Jonah Hill situation?

Speaker: I don't what, what happened when Jonah Hill again, I forgot. I forgot that whole situation. He was

Speaker 2: saying his boundaries was that his, uh, girlfriend couldn't hang out with men.

Couldn't serve with other men. Exactly. That's

Speaker: exactly that. That's right. Yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. No, that's, that is, it is, this is a very, very common [00:10:00] misconception at best and very clear that they know it's not a boundary. Most likely

Speaker 2: I can already tell by the image I'm not gonna like this.

Speaker 5: Do you allow your girlfriend to have girls' nights out Previously?

Yes. Currently, no. I have very clear guidelines. Number one, I'm not a regular person, so I don't have a regular relationship. So if you're a regular person with your regular ass life and your regular relationship, you won't understand this and I'm not expecting you to, but I'm a provider. What I mean by that is she doesn't work, she has no responsibilities besides day-to-day tasks.

And enjoying life. So she wanted to have a girl's night. Absolutely, go do it. Use my card, pay for everything. Pay for you and all your friends the entire night's on me. Be home by this time, yada, yada, yada. She lost track of time, she missed a curfew. Guess what? There is no more going out because everything that I do is based on trust.

And if you wanna disrespect me. The time that I tell you, based on me trusting you to go out, don't expect it again. What's the point of the curfew? 'cause that's like an arbitrary thing. There's a couple schools of thought. I'm a guy and at the end of the day I've been a player and I, and I know what guys do.

[00:11:00] Nothing that I have to say is about me not trusting her. It's about not putting her in a position where she's gonna constantly be tried and tempted or approached, if that makes sense. I don't park my Lamborghini on the street in a shitty neighborhood. I know my Lambo can't get stolen. I know my chick can't get stolen.

I'm a 23-year-old, six foot five millionaire. Go find another one. But at the end of the day, I'm not gonna park my car or let my chick be in a position where there's constant threats or danger.

Speaker 2: If this was like. Red pill. Bingo.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: I have, I've got four corners. Who is this man?

Speaker: Who knows? Six foot five millionaire,

Speaker 2: not me.

Oh, he was a D one athlete to seven figure earner. Oh, he's one of those.

Speaker: I, I often have responded to videos where men will treat their partners like literal objects, but it's never quite. As clearly defined mm-hmm. As he did it in this, the fact that he used the Lamborghini as the example was the most [00:12:00] clear parallel to how he views her as quite literally a, something he has purchased.

As a toy,

Speaker 2: and ironically, the first, first video on his page is My Lamborghini got broken into.

Speaker: Is that a metaphor? You talk about getting cheated on that. The entire video is just about how his, his girlfriend left him.

Speaker 2: I, I would never get my Lamborghini broken into. Mm-hmm. Or did you, sir? Did you?

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Did you? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm. Like the things he says here, he starts by saying, you can do whatever you want. I'll pay for everything, whatever. Which I don't buy that. Mm-hmm. I don't buy that at all. Uh, he says he is a millionaire. I'd love to see his tax return, but anyways. First it's that I gave her a trust and then she broke it 'cause she didn't come back.

Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Then the next thing he says is, no, I trust her. It's not about her. Mm-hmm. [00:13:00] You just said you don't trust her, but now you do trust her and it's the other men you can't trust. But she's also a car like bro. No.

Speaker: Well, and it's the, you, you could tell in the beginning he, he already knows what the critiques are going to be.

Mm-hmm. So he is like, no, no, no. Let me explain. Why I'm not like the other boys. I could replace her in a second, right? Because I am a six five millionaire. Look at me this

Speaker 2: 23. He's 23. I'm like, I also love, she like shouldn't have any responsibilities except day-to-day tasks. I'm like that she's responsible for.

What, what does that mean?

Speaker: Yeah, everything. Managing the house, whatever goes into that. I mean, I guess at this point they don't have kids.

Speaker 2: I hope not. He's already given curfew to his partner. What does he need a child for?

Speaker: There's a co, there's a, a, a very. Horrific combination of two things I hate, and that's like the, the, um, the ignorance of wealth.

Like, like when you like the idea that, that because you're wealthy, because you have [00:14:00] money, you don't have to play by the same rules of everybody else. And the rules that he's choosing to ignore is basic humanity toward the person you're in a relationship with. Mm-hmm. Right? It, it's this, it's this.

Confluence of two things that really, really make me upset. Just because you have a certain amount of money and even though you're quote unquote willing to offer a life to somebody, doesn't mean you are automatically given the right to just treat them and become the, he's also like using the same terms I would use for my teenage daughter that is going out like, oh, you have to be home by this point.

Here's your allowance. Yep. Like, it's so, it's so weird. It's either a mommy or a daughter that some of these guys they are looking for, or, and, and like a weird combination of it in a lot of ways.

Speaker 2: They literally want both. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: They want to have

Speaker 2: the authority of a parent with the responsibilities of the child.

And I, number one, I don't buy that this man has as much money as he says he does. I just don't, looking at, [00:15:00] there's just nothing that says that to me. Maybe. Maybe, but it's possible. I, it's possible. But most men who make money, the type of money he's discussing and can give the life that he's saying he can, most of those men don't say that shit.

Right. They don't feel the need to talk in the way that he does. Like, I feel like, because I looked at his page and can see that he's like a, he looks like a coach bro, kind of thing. Like a financial bro. I'm, I'm doubting his story already.

Speaker: It's also very possible he just came from money. Like, this is mommy and daddy's money.

Well,

Speaker 2: that's true.

Speaker: That, uh,

Speaker 2: that's true. I think these men are really good reminder. I actually have, once we're done talking about this, I can contribute a little bit of something to this. Discussion. Uh, but there is something to be said about understanding that just because men have money doesn't mean they're gonna treat you right.

Doesn't mean that your [00:16:00] life gets better. It can sometimes mean they have more ways of manipulating you. It can mean that there's just a more substantial way of control. Mm-hmm. And that's what we see with this, is like, I'll give you the life of your dreams, except you have to do whatever I want. And if you don't, I'm gonna take that life away from you.

Mm-hmm. And I think particularly here, I mean that he can damn near make up a reason to take it away. Mm-hmm. And then say, see, I told you I gave you everything. You broke my trust. It's a one and done thing. Mm-hmm. How many times has he broken her trust? CHASCo, do you wanna mm-hmm. You wanna guess the boy,

Speaker: he, he doesn't have the same rules for himself.

He's the provider. He's the millionaire. He can do whatever he wants.

Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot. Right.

Speaker: And it's, and it's also, I, I made a YouTube video, responded to a guy making this whole claim. It's not the same thing when a man cheats. Right, because he, he was not his, the words in the video I responded to on YouTube was, uh, he does, you, you don't do him or something like that.

So if a guy, if a guy cheats, he's doing something, but if a woman cheats, he's doing her, [00:17:00] it was some weird, I forgot the exact words of it, but that was, that was the gist of it, where it's like she's having something done to her versus when a man cheats, he's just, he's doing something to somebody else.

He's like.

Speaker 2: But by that nothing, he would be more responsible. Right?

Speaker: You think so? But no,

Speaker 2: in the situation of like if someone's stabbing or being stabbed. You would think the culpable one would be the stabber, not the stab me,

Speaker: but I think that's a great analogy. 'cause in his mind though, it's not about the act, it's about how his brain views the damage, quote unquote.

Right. Oh, sick. That's exactly, no,

Speaker 2: I refuse. That's what he's,

Speaker: that's what he, that's what the mindset is from these guys that it's like, oh, no, no, she, the whole damaged goods, the whole unpure is the purity culture bullshit. Uh, again, that, that's kind of what the mentality is. It's like, no, no, no. When I'm doing something, I'm doing the stat, I'm, I'm still fine.

Even though what I'm doing is quote, unquote just as bad. I'm, I'm not being quote unquote harmed. It's the whole lock and key thing. It's the whole, [00:18:00] it's all the bullshit analogies they wanna do without to avoid any accountability.

Speaker 2: Oh my God, I'm unsoiled in this event. I'm un,

Speaker: I am still pure as a Daisy's birth.

Speaker 2: It's like, whatcha talking about honestly. Because, mm-hmm. It's about being disloyal and betrayal. So like regardless of who's impacted by it, you still cheated. Why are we even arguing? Like who's the most quote unquote damaged by it? Like, that's so weird. Doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker: The weirdest part of that video.

I know we're going off on a tangent here about the other video. He ends it by saying, he was like, but just just so we're clear, I'm a religious man and you shouldn't cheat after making a five minute video explaining though. But if I did and you caught me, that's 'cause that's really the key. He's like, I've done it.

I have, and it's wrong. You shouldn't, you shouldn't cheat. But I know it's, it's, it's happened before. It's gonna happen again.

Speaker 2: I think [00:19:00] she took a video.

Speaker: Yeah. So, so let me just, ex lemme just get ahead of this and say if I were to cheat, I haven't, but when you find out that I might have cheated on you, you need to know that I'm against cheating.

But it's not the same, but it's not. It's biology, baby.

Speaker 2: You, uh, don't ever say that again. It's biology baby.

Speaker: One of the arguments he makes is that, uh, because of the fact that men produce so much sperm. Oh, absolutely not. Yeah. We are bi biologically hardwired to spread our seed to as many people as possible.

So the idea of monogamy is just, it's hard for our. Poor little man brains to comprehend.

Speaker 2: Does he know how many eggs most women produce? What? What the fuck are we talking about here?

Speaker: No, no, no. But in one seed,

Speaker 2: he probably doesn't even know. He's like, women have eggs. What? What

Speaker: do they lay them? Women aren't chickens.

Do they have [00:20:00] nests? I get eggs from, I get protein from my eggs. I don't have babies from them.

Speaker 2: Just go back up. This train's headed in a bad direction. Okay, this is a random thought. Have you seen or did you ever watch, have I met your mother?

Speaker: Oh, yes I have.

Speaker 2: Okay. Seen

Speaker: every episode. Wait, how I met

Speaker 2: your

Speaker: mother?

Speaker 2: What'd I say?

Speaker: Have I met your mother? Can I say something that's gonna make you really upset?

Speaker 2: Yes.

Speaker: I like the ending.

Speaker 2: Do you like Ted?

Speaker: No.

Speaker 2: Okay. Thank God. But I like

Speaker: at the ending, I, I, it ended. This is, sorry, this is super tangential now because I know you're gonna get to a point, but I knew this was gonna make you, I had to come up at some point.

I, I Gen I ended and I was like. I'm very satisfied with that. And then I went online and I was like, oh, oh shit. I'm apparently the sole person on earth who was completely satisfied with how that show wrapped up.

Speaker 2: You should, you should write into them. I'm sure they'd [00:21:00] appreciate,

Speaker: Hey, this might be the first I'm hearing this.

I thought you did a pretty good job. I thought it was. That was exactly how I wanted it to end. No,

Speaker 2: you're notorious for loving bad movies though. Like you can watch any content and say, yeah, that wasn't so bad.

Speaker: It's the, it's the best example, I think arguably from, I still like. I still feel the same way about it, but it's the best example I think of the fact that I like will watch almost anything.

Mm-hmm. And if I'm a big enough fan of it, and I've been, how many of seasons was that show? Too many. 11. Yeah. Uh, and so at that point I was so invested in the show that I was gonna like it no matter what happened. I was probably gonna walk away like, Nope, it's great.

Speaker 2: Well, so I think, anyways, Ted is one of the.

Most like notorious nice guys in tv. Mm-hmm. I've talked about him several times. I think the whole series is from a nice guy's perspective. Yeah. Where like everything he does is justified. He's doing it in the pursuit of the one. Right. And so we're all just supposed to be like, oh, [00:22:00] that's fine. Also, he's talking about these sex stories with his children, but that's the story for another time.

The point being, there's this one episode where like the whole thing is like nothing good happens after midnight and he cheats on his girlfriend with Robin, I believe.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting from this, where it's like, oh, you know, after a certain time, bad things happen. It's like the time of day is irrelevant.

The clock doesn't strike midnight and everyone gets naked. Like, no, it's about choices. What choices did you make up until that point? Mm-hmm. And what choices do you continue to make? And so the time part is so irrelevant. Mm-hmm. Like what does it, what changes? Like nothing. People get more intoxicated maybe.

But other than that, to me, like, like to, to put a curfew on a woman, like mm-hmm. Speaks volumes about you. Mm-hmm. Rather than her, because what, what's gonna happen? It's not like, like Cinderella, like reverse Cinderella, you know? Mm-hmm. Where like midnight strikes, [00:23:00] she turns into a harlet like.

Speaker: My pants fell off.

If someone slips the wrong way, their penis might fall in me.

Speaker 2: She leaves one pant leg on the stairs.

My Cinderella,

Speaker: he's walking around. We need to find the man whose condom this fits on.

Speaker 2: Wait, who's condom

Speaker: what? Well, it's to find out who, who she cheated on him with, because as we know, these condoms are just too tight. I can't wear. You have to find one that fits you properly.

Speaker 2: Sick. The worst argument ever.

Oh,

Speaker: it's the stupidest thing in the, I remember that. That was, it's

Speaker 2: so uncomfortable.

Speaker: Oh, I can't do this. Why are they talking like that? Can you imagine? Oh, I did. He so uncomfortable. Oh God, you ruined the mood. Put three

Speaker 2: condoms on. I mean, arguably like refusing and trying to pressure a woman to. Yeah, not use [00:24:00] protection kills the mood.

But

Speaker 3: yeah,

Speaker 2: I mean I luckily didn't have those conversations, but I heard about them and I was like, what? Yeah. 'cause to me, my thought process is this. Like if a guy's like, gosh, this makes. This makes me a little uncom. It's like, okay, well then you can just not have sex, I guess. Mm-hmm. Is that worse? Is it so uncomfortable you don't wanna have sex?

Or are you trying to per like, then you can just not have sex with a lovely woman? Like, I guess that's your, the cross you're gonna die on, you know? Oh wait, no, that's not the saying. It's the hill. You'll die on with a cross. You'll bear or not to cross, you'll die

Speaker: on. You get to be Jesus. If you're, if you don't wanna have sex without a condom, then you are.

Clearly the woman is rejecting Jesus and crucifying the man. That is what you just, you heard it from Reagan. Everybody. That's how she feels.

Speaker 2: That's how they act though. Like, like literally like, ugh. I guess I have to not bear children, but [00:25:00] yeah.

Speaker: It is. I don't, it's so funny, and this is where this always goes back to, uh, I think so many things that I, I never will understand the neurotypical brain.

Mm-hmm. Um, in, in this way. Like I remember in high school and, uh, hearing about, you know, diseases and pregnancy and all that, and I was terrified of sex. Yes. You know what I mean? It worked. It like the, I was the target audience that was, it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can like. And just all of the things I was paying atten.

That's my problem. I was paying attention. Yeah. Right. And I was concerned about that. And I was like, no, no, no, no. Alright. We gotta take every precaution humanly possible.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I thought the immaculate conception was gonna come for me. Yeah, that's, I was terrified. Yeah.

Speaker: I assumed that the first time I had sex with another condom that I would be, it would just be a baby would be there next month.

A

Speaker 2: beer

Speaker: would be there. Yeah.

Uh,

Speaker 2: yeah. I. I guess we could go back [00:26:00] to what we were talking about, but Yeah. Yeah. I, I just think it's just ridiculous. It's these arbitrary rules that these guys are making up to me, they're setting up a system that they know someone's gonna fail in. Right? Like, I think they purposefully want. To set up rules that are gonna get broken in some shape or form.

Mm-hmm. And then they can say, well, this is why. Yeah. This is why I have to control you. This is why you have a curfew. This is why you can't go out with the girls anymore. You are the one who broke the promise instead of like acknowledging the fact that you are not her dad.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. And the whole, it's not that I don't trust you, I just don't trust other men.

I know how men work. I know how I, my mind is, I know how I work when I'm out. Like, she should know that if I'm out past midnight, I'm probably having sex with somebody else.

Speaker 2: Guaranteed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And she should know that.

Speaker: She should know that. But I'm provi, I'm a millionaire. I'm six foot five millionaire. So it's to be expect you get with me.

That's the, that's the expectation, right? It's what you get. That's you sign the papers. No way. I

Speaker 2: mean, [00:27:00] I, I feel like that is, I feel like that is the vibe,

Speaker: but, but then it's the same guys that will then get upset and be like, I don't get why she cheated. I don't get what my Lamborghini got broken into.

Right. I don't get, it doesn't make women, all women cheat. It's weird. 'cause like I treat them terribly. Yeah. And I set all these rules and I cheat on them and I do these, I, I'm just a horrific person and then they just keep cheating on me. 'cause women are horrible.

Speaker 2: They keep leaving me. That's the answer.

They're horrible. That's it. That's all. They keep breaking up.

Speaker: They keep, they just, they ghost me and leave me

Speaker 2: Jonah Hill, for example, which, you know what I do hold the grudge. I fucking hold the grudge on these men. I don't know these men, but I'll hold a grudge. Yes. Uh, he did something similar, like where you set them up for failure.

Mm-hmm. So in this case, I think. Like curfew, like people are late all the time, right? Like there's so many, and nor should there be a curfew, like especially with you have friends, like it's hard to get the timing right? Like someone being a little bit late again, you're not their dad chill.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. [00:28:00]

Speaker 2: So I think that he probably knew that was gonna go a certain way, but then like Jonah Hill, he would, he said like vague hard rules that were like, you couldn't be too nice to someone.

Like, well, what does that mean? Like what does that look like? It's these kind of vague guidelines where. The person can insert control and critique. Mm-hmm. So you're constantly like, okay, well that was that too nice? Like, oh, I'm not supposed to be too nice with my coworkers. Like, was that flirtatious or was that just being nice?

So he can just continuously like wear you down with these subtle little jabs and take away at your confidence because they know they're gonna break you that way. Mm-hmm. And then you think it's your fault. And they'll say crazy things like this guy is saying, which is like, it's really easy. You don't have to do anything, like, you get to do whatever makes you happy except going out on a girl's night because mm-hmm I now say you can't do that.

Oh, wait. Mm-hmm. Wait a second. It's like they will literally make it seem like they're giving you like the [00:29:00] best life on a, like a silver platter, when in reality what they're offering you is a life of being absolutely controlled by them. Controlled and critiqued

Speaker: the, because it's, it's this weird dynamic of these, these guys claim that they want a long-term relationship, right?

They claim on paper that they're looking for a wife, right? Because that's, that's also, that's part of the, the, the being a man, right? Is finding a wife to bear your seed, right. To start a family with.

Speaker 2: But that's, that's, you used a seed too many times on this podcast.

Speaker: You plant a seed and it will grow into a f, into a a field.

You will never see trees. Um, okay, so my brain is not functional right now. It was going to be, uh. A quote from Hamilton, but I butchered it so badly. But anyway, but like theoretically on paper, you ask every single one of these guys, what is, what do you want? Like, well, I wanna get married, [00:30:00] I wanna settle down.

I want her to, in their mind, she will be at home raising our children. Right? That is what they want. Yet they, then they, they create these scenarios that make it so that the only person that will, that will stay with them is someone that would never, is not happy. Right. It's not with them as in, in any sort of a what, a what a romantic relationship or, you know, should be.

Right. And I, I don't wanna say, and obviously there's many various forms of romantic relationships that exist in the world. So, so they, they, they create all these elaborate rules to force someone who clearly doesn't like them or wouldn't want to be with them long term. Into staying with them longer than they ever would if it was just a normal, traditional relationship.

Like I've never had, like here a great example. So, um, my wife is going to her, uh, her 20 year, not 20 year, 20 year. Is that right? 20 year high school reunion. Yeah, that's right. Uh, coming up I was like, what's the math in my, I was like, how old am I?

Speaker 2: Wait a second.

Speaker: I was like, that doesn't make any sense. [00:31:00] That would mean I'm older than that.

That that's, that's accurate.

Speaker 2: No, that's it.

Speaker: So my wife is going to her, uh, or 20 year reunion, uh, for high school. And, and we, I, you know, she, she's not from where we live right now. She lives far away. The, you know, having two disabled kids and traveling across the country and all that goes into that, we decided it's just easier if she just goes on her own.

Um, like we were trying to figure out a way to make it work where we could go together, but it was just, it just wasn't in the cards. Right. Uh, never once in this, the conversation that, have I been like, whew. Hope, hope we're still, she doesn't cheat on me there. Right. Never once have I been like, okay, but you gotta call me the second you leave.

That, that reunion, so that I know that you're in your ho FaceTime me from your hotel room alone. And show me all the closets.

Speaker 2: Do a room tour.

Speaker: Do a room tour. No men

Speaker 2: here and no men here. Just so I

Speaker: know. Like that's, that's never, there's zero que and that's not like a new, that's not just from being married for [00:32:00] 15 years, right?

That's just, that's been us from year one. Right? Because when you're in a healthy relationship, and that's the key is that it's not, you are not constantly worried about setting all of these boundaries and boundaries, quote unquote, uh, which are really just coercive controlling rules. To, to about them, to keep them from, from string, to keep them from leaving you, to keep them from cheating on you.

It just, you just are in a relationship with, with each other, and it's such, it's such a, they don't get that, that they'll never get the thing that they say they won. If they continue to only seek out women as property, uh, that, that, and then having to set all these parameters around them.

Speaker 2: But that's the thing, I don't, I think they set parameters to break them.

Like, I don't even know that they necessarily are afraid of the things they say. They are like, these women are so arrogant half the time that I don't think it even enters their mind that like, really they're gonna get cheated on. Mm-hmm. Like, I think. Their egos. That man's ego is huge. He is getting on a [00:33:00] podcast for other men being like, I'm a six five millionaire.

You're, I, I'm not a normie. Like, give,

Speaker 3: mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Give me a break. But I think that they purposefully do it because they wanna set up this system of like breaking a person down. So they have a wife that's essentially furniture. And a prop to their life. So they wanna have the beautiful dotting wife that takes care of the house, takes care of the kids, that makes them look successful because again, mm-hmm.

Half the time, these men don't want wives for wives. They want wives to be, you know, essentially housekeepers and then trophies. Mm-hmm. To say, I'm, I'm a good man. I got married and had kids. That's what good men do. So they want the wife, that's the furniture, and then they wanna have affairs. Mm-hmm. Because what they do is they break down a woman until she's someone they're not attracted to.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: And then they cheat. Mm-hmm. Because like you are breaking somebody into a shell of who they are, and then that's when they're like you, you've let yourself go. You have no personality, you don't go [00:34:00] out anymore, you don't wanna hang. It's like, no, you broke her buddy. And it, that's what they do though.

They wanna have that at home and then have these affairs and it's like. The sickest type of system from these men. It's, it's like at the end of the day, they wanna have this control and then they wanna have somebody that they. Can have fun with quote unquote, which, you know mm-hmm. They're almost always having affairs.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And it, it's just, it's just sick. It's like the whole purpose is to break a woman. Like that's what it is to, to mold her into something.

Speaker: Right. Because it's not, um, it, it, it's always these, these, it kind of comes back to the same discussion of men. Like, okay, this is what it takes to get a woman. You need to be making this much money.

You have to be this tall, you have to, et cetera, et cetera. And so they look at these, what they quote unquote have to offer.

Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: And they, they try to like find, so, you know, it reminds me of, uh, do you remember that old video? Like, uh, the square piece goes in the square hole. The circle goes in the square hole.

The bullet goes in the square hole. Yeah. Uh, whatever. And it, that's kind of like, the [00:35:00] idea is that they, they don't care what shape, whatever their pieces will fit with. They just want, they, they, they know the, the hole they want to put their piece into. Yikes. Which is a very apt metaphor. And and they will, what

Speaker 2: could it mean though,

Speaker: right?

I don't know. But, but that, and, but that's the whole point, is they don't wanna find the what, what they're, what they have to someone that, what they have to offer would actually be appealing to or fit with. They just want, they find the shape that they want and they go, go with that.

Speaker 2: Uh, can I share something with you?

Sure. I just did a video on this. Do you know, okay. You might know this man. Do you know, uh, Michael Porter Jr. MPJ. He plays for the Brooklyn Nets.

Speaker: Okay. Name sounds familiar.

Speaker 2: So he just said something very fucked up on a podcast. So I guess in 2018 he got a five year contract that ended up getting him.

[00:36:00] $179.3 million deal for. Yeah. And then there was like other things, uh, incentives or bonus, I don't know, I don't know how sports work, but 200 million is allegedly what he's. Value at. So he gets on this podcast. Now the podcast is Justin Laboy, who, I dunno who that is either. It's Justin Laboy podcast, which is hashtag respectfully the Respectfully podcast, and he decides to brag about one of his past relationships.

He really wanted to talk about his ex, which like of all the things in the world to talk about. You gotta talk about your ex. Okay. Grown man, but, alright. So he tells a story about how he was dating this woman and she needed to get a new apartment. And so he takes her to look at apartments and he's showing her apartments that she can't afford.

And she says like, I can't afford these. Like, there's just no way. Right? And he's like, it's, it's fine. It's fine. Look, you know, and he says he likes to provide for women, you know, he [00:37:00] likes to provide for women. He dates. So he said, I, you know, I'll pay half. And the problem is it's like a year lease, right?

And so she's, you know, obviously like, okay, year lease though, like mm-hmm. That could go bad. And he tells her, no, I've got you. Like no matter what, I will help you pay for this year lease. Like whether we break up or not.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Isn't that so kind and generous, Checo. What could go wrong?

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: You can already tell where this is going.

Yeah.

Speaker: I, I wanna hear it.

Speaker 2: So you're like, tell me the bad stuff.

Speaker: Tell me, tell me.

Speaker 2: So then, of course, five to six months into this lease, they break up and I think they were together like grand total of like a year and a half. So that's like a long time where you should, you know, care about someone. So they break up.

Right. And he calls it, she's hits up his phone for the bread.

Speaker 3: Mm.

Speaker 2: Meaning the money, which he's like, I can understand that. Which [00:38:00] I'm like, yeah, no shit, dude. Like, she's in a lease, a legally binding lease that she can't pay. So of course she hits you up for the money you've promised her.

Speaker 3: Right.

Speaker 2: And the guys, he's like, yeah, he's gonna pay, but he, he's not gonna send over a lump sum.

Mm-hmm. And he's bragging that he's not gonna, I'm not gonna just send her the money. This is what he says. Okay. Quote that she has to act right month to month, so he only gives her the money if he decides that she's been acting right. This woman that is not his, that is mm-hmm. Literally his ex and quote, if I see her wild and it's going.

To be hard to keep that agreement. So basically, if I don't like what you're doing, I know, I promise that I'd pay for you, but I may not be paying for your lease if I don't like your behavior. And then he said, if you're out here wilding, get the next dude to pay the rent. Thoughts.

Speaker: I mean, it, [00:39:00] it's, it's, I think the issue is the, once again.

The idea that if you break up, you should have any say whatsoever about what your ex-partner is doing with their life. Obviously that is problematic. I, I can't, what I'm having trouble with is, is like admitting this on a podcast, thinking it was like a Look what I did Yes. To like, yes. Mm-hmm. Because it makes you think nobody, and this is, this, I think, gets to the heart of what is so problematic with so many things in our society.

He's told this story before. Yes. And the reaction has been, yeah. You got her like it's been, you show her, you showed, yeah. You, she shouldn't get this thing you promised, uh, you that you explicitly said and just admitted to. That you said

Speaker 4: publicly on this

Speaker: thing, uh, you should do this X, y, and z because of, of what goes into that.

And nobody ever says shit when they hear [00:40:00] one of their friends saying something really problematic like that. That's always, I have so many stories where, uh, of, of growing up and it's not, this is not. Me doing anything extraordinary. This should be the baseline of what human beings do. Just as if it's when people are like, oh, oh, yeah.

Oh, that's just, that's my, my dad, he's a bit racist, right? Oh, he says, he says horrible things. Right. Oh, that's so and so. He just, oh, yeah, yeah. Or, you know, I'll put a shirt, like just somebody, uh, another really more, um, horrific. Like, oh, put, go, put another go, put a sweatshirt on your uncle's coming over sick.

Like those kind of weird, creepy things. Yes. It's speak the fuck up. Right? Yeah. If you hear somebody, whether it's your butt, I don't care if it makes the, that moment uncomfortable. Right. Right. Because that's what's happening by him admitting this is that it's, it's a cycle of things where nobody has said shit while you're doing.

The terrible thing or the, the, the, you know, obviously there's different levels of terrible that are going on here. Um, but the, the, this is, there's [00:41:00] so many examples you can think of where somebody will do and say over and over and people are so afraid of making it uncomfortable or ruining a friendship, or if it's like a friend of yours that has $200 million of losing access to that friendship, right?

That's more important to you than actually holding them in check and saying, Hey, that's really fucked up. Like, why, why, why would you do that? Why would you, why would you think that's okay to do?

Speaker 2: I mean, it's financial abuse, like that's what it is, right? Right. And it happens all the time. Like, men who have power or have money will make promises to women when they're in, you know, in their good favors.

Or like, you know, I, I had, um, I had a friend of mine from high school, she's a recording artist from Nashville now, and she's had this guy who she was. She wasn't even dating him. He was just like a, a producer that was like around mm-hmm. And he like did an album for her and was like, yeah, let's do it together, you know, let me help you out.

And she was like, so [00:42:00] grateful. And then he pulled the move on her, this much, much older producer. Mm-hmm. And she was like, no. And all of a sudden he sends her the bill.

Speaker 4: Which

Speaker 2: is thousands of dollars saying, I own your music unless you pay me. Which is, she talked about that on your, on your other

Speaker: podcast, right?

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Yeah. And so it's like. It's horrifying. Like again, like he gave her all this stuff when, when he was trying to woo her, and then the second he knew he couldn't get with her, he's gonna punish her with the same power. Right. And it's scary, like to see how these men manipulate their wealth, like

Speaker 3: mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: First of all, get it in writing everybody, like any deals, like get it all in writing because they'll make you promises and they'll seem like the nicest guy. And then the second. That you go against them, that's the shit that they pull. She's in a horrible position. Mm-hmm. Where she could lose her house and break her lease.

Like there are legal ramifications for that. Mm-hmm. And he might even be on the lease as well, I'm not sure. But like this idea that, well, guess what? We broke [00:43:00] up. Now I get to decide how you act. Mm-hmm. And if you are getting with other men, or I catch you acting a certain way with other guys. I'm pulling the money I'm gonna give you, like, you, I can't imagine the stress this woman has to feel.

Mm-hmm. Like she's still being controlled by her ex. And like that is what men do with power sometimes. And it's really scary.

Speaker: And I think that really connects back to the, the crux of what we're talking about. Like, you don't do that to somebody that you ever cared about.

Speaker 3: Right. Right.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Like if you ever, if you truly, I've, I've mentioned this in the podcast before, like everyone I've ever been in a relationship with. I still, I don't want bad things to happen to. Right. I, I have nobody that, and, and I'm, I'm lucky in that regard. Like I, I know there are, there are, there are legitimate reasons to have an ex that you think is, is hor horrible, but literally every single person I've ever dated.

I want good things to happen to. Right? Yeah. I want to see them that I, I hope they find love. I hope they find all, all sorts of, of the [00:44:00] same happiness I found in my own life because they were a good person, we just didn't match. Right. And if that's the case, if you seek out relationships with people that you like.

As opposed to people that you think other men will be impressed by, or other people we can even say, you could even genderless in this regard. Uh, then, then you don't end up getting in situations where you think it's okay to financially abuse them afterwards to, or even like, you know, that you think of like the more extreme, horrific things like revenge porn, right?

Oh God. And things like that, where all of those, if, if you don't view them as a human. It's much easier to fall into those, that path versus if you don't view them as the equal human right, as somebody that that is, that you like, then it's much easier to fall into these really dark post relationship things because, oh, they're just.

A thing that you dated, they're just an object that you used to own in the same way that if you, you know, if you, if, and I don't care what happens to an old car that I used to own, right? I don't care about those sort of things, but the things I actually [00:45:00] do care about do still have value, right? And, and be the next person you're with.

Once again, if they're a good person. Won't care that you don't hate your, you know, your exes. Right. You know, there, there, there's all, I I, I, I hate to use overarching like universal truths because there are always, there might be trauma involved that might make somebody scared, like get a little bit more hesitant to trust if you actually do have good relationships with your people who did things like that.

But in general, you shouldn't be going somewhere and bragging about abusing somebody and you wouldn't do that. If you viewed them as a, as a, as a equal person and another human being as as, as somebody worthy of respect and dignity.

Speaker 2: And I think this really points out something that, like I know we've talked about and I try to talk about a lot, which red pillars.

S refuse to understand because, you know, they're always like, oh, remember we did the episode? And it was like, you get yachts, you're always on yachts. Women can just [00:46:00] get on any yacht they want and they get money thrown at them and, and paid vacations. I'm like, well, where was mine? But

Speaker 4: yeah,

Speaker 2: that's the idea.

And, and I always wanna bring up the fact that like. There are always strings attached. Mm-hmm. They're not doing that for her and for her benefit and because they really care about her like you might think, and they're doing it because they want something from her. And the same way they extend these things, they can take them away, they can make a woman dependent and then they can.

Remove all of these things that they've given them. Like, you know, you, you think things are gifts, but they can be revoked. Like, that's how mm men operate. They'll act like that they're giving it, and then the second that it doesn't go their way, they're like, well, I, that's not yours. That's mine. Mm-hmm.

I've had exes do that to me, like stupid shit. Like I had an ex who gave me a keyboard. And I think it was like rock band or something. Like, God, help me just go, help me. And he took it back and he is like, that was [00:47:00] not a gift that I was loaning that to you. I mean, if men can do that with rock band, what are they gonna do with money?

You know, what are they gonna do with cars? Like it's, it's just a means of control and the ways that it can be abused are very scary. So it's like. Like, just because a man has more money that sometimes, like, it doesn't mean that he's going to treat you right. It can also mean that he has more to weaponize against you and more ways mm-hmm.

To lure you in. But again, it's not to benefit you. Like it's never to benefit the woman, it's to benefit themselves to look good. Mm-hmm. Because it wasn't he a baller, didn't he feel like a, like a great boyfriend when he did it for her? Mm-hmm. Got her that apartment. He probably got a lot of praise and whatever else, but.

Now, he's like, oh, you're not giving me what I want. You can't date other men. How about that? How about I take your apartment from you? How about you have like, you're gonna have bad credit after this?

Speaker: Because that's really what he meant by that too. It's not even [00:48:00] like, oh, you can't go out and I can't even imagine, like do some something like really wild, right?

It's, it's right. No, you're not allowed to have a light. If you, or just check that you're going to then ruin, I'm gonna ruin your credit, which in today's day and age is actually a pretty big threat. Right. The amount it can, it can harm you for years and years going forward after that. Um, or you can just, uh, you know, be in penance as your punishment for, for possibly even me breaking up with you.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker: Right. He could've cheated. It's very possible. It could have been. Yeah. On his, but he was like, how dare you hold me accountable. For treating you like shit

Speaker 2: to his own word though. That's the craziest part. Like you are the one that said you were gonna do that. And like I've had that happen so many times where it's like guys will promise something or say they're gonna do something and then you call them on it and you're like, wait, you broke you, you said you're gonna do it now you're not gonna do like, well that's because you did blank.

So I shouldn't have to fulfill my [00:49:00] promises. I shouldn't have to keep my word. I

Speaker: said that when I thought there was a chance we might date one day.

Speaker 2: I was trying to sleep with you,

Speaker: dmi. Yeah. Do you not understand? Did you not pick up on that? There was nothing genuine about our friendship. Idiot.

Speaker 2: But don't feel justified.

They really will. Yeah. Like I don't think he, like, again, if you felt any guilt, you would not be bragging on a podcast. He thinks that makes him look good, like he thinks that makes him cool.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: To like financially abuse his ex.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Like tell the boys all about it. Like that's scary.

Speaker: The only reason you would go onto is going back to what I said on a podcast and share that is because the reaction was like, yeah, you got her.

Hell yeah.

Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's true. I like how many men would do that if they could do that. Like I, I have never been financially dependent on a man.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: I guess my dad at one point I was a

Speaker 3: child.

Speaker 2: Um, but you know, I have never been in that situation. I [00:50:00] think it's terrifying. But I think about the, some of the guys that I dated, and they absolutely would, a I told, they took, he took rock band back, like mm-hmm.

I can't imagine if I would've like been living with him. Mm-hmm. Or like had any, been in on any financial endeavor or like owned anything together. Mm-hmm. Like what he could have done and how he could have weaponized that. So I'm sure a lot of guys. Like wishing they could. There was, um, there's that quote from, there's a quote from Halsey where she's talking about, I think I've mentioned it before, but how, uh, women want power so that they'll, they won't be abused and men want power in order to abuse it.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: Obviously not all men, but I think that's really profound because I think a lot of men do wish they had money mm-hmm. To do shit like this.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: So that they could keep women that don't want to be with them. Mm-hmm. And that they could keep women in check, just like the first one, which is like, I give you all this money and stuff, so I get to tell you when you come home.

Speaker 3: [00:51:00] Mm-hmm. And

Speaker 2: if I don't like something you did, I get to then say you don't get girls nights anymore. Which like. How are the two, even like you broke curfew turns into you cannot go out at night with women like Right.

Speaker: Every day. I'm sorry,

Speaker 2: what?

Speaker: That's your one chance?

Speaker 2: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Again, I think they make rules to be broken.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. And then

Speaker 2: they, and then they blame you and say, I, I gave you the world. Mm-hmm. And look what you did. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: So no matter what happens, it's always, it's always her fault.

Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Why did you make me do that to you? Mm-hmm. What a shame. I still think the first guy's a liar. I can't prove it. Hey, do you, uh, what's the, is his name dos the guy from Dexter?

There's all these, do you know what I'm talking about? I never, I never seen Dexter.

Speaker: I know,

Speaker 2: I think it's Officer Dos. Let me check. Hold on, hold on. Yeah. It's James Dos. Okay. Where he's like, because he, he, he knows something's up with Dexter, like the whole series. Right. And he is trying to prove it. There's this me where he is in the car and it's like, I know it's blank, but I just can't prove it.

That's how I feel. I am dos at the wheel saying, [00:52:00] I know this man's not as rich as he says. I just can't prove it.

Speaker: It's all real quick 'cause it's gonna be, I'm always mix up, uh, Dexter with Chuck. I know it's not anywhere near the same thing and I know Zachary Leo is a terrible person now. Uh, I I never liked the guy

Speaker 2: I, one I've never seen it so I dunno it.

Speaker: Yeah, but

Speaker 2: I can't stand that man. He said some crazy shit recently. Yeah,

Speaker: it's upsetting 'cause I really loved Chuck. I thought the show was great.

Speaker 2: He was like, got a little, he's a little Al righty. Yeah. Um, but he al he also was like, he was so diehard about his, uh, Shazam movies. Yeah. And like how it's everybody else's fault.

And like, I'm like, bro, stop it. Yeah. Stop. Yeah. Anyways, we don't need to. I'm sure there's horrible You can look up online. He has horrible quotes.

Speaker: He's a big RFK guy.

Speaker 2: Oh, is he?

Speaker: Oh, he is a big RFK guy. That, that's, that was my first, I was like, god dammit. You ruin Chuck and Shazam. I liked Shazam [00:53:00] comics too. So you faster, oh, I

Speaker 2: know he you son of a bitch.

I mean he does, he has like Peter Panty syndrome Energy. Yeah. Like yeah.

Speaker: But how dare you choose projects that I enjoy and now I associate them with you?

Speaker 2: No, like anytime I see guys with that energy, there's a couple. I'm like, mm-hmm. I don't like, he reminds me of like, Dax Shepherd, who I don't like. That might be a con, that's a hot take.

Probably. I don't like some of the things he said. He also, you know, like no, Dax

Speaker: is, is really pro the, the whole, he, he had a whole transphobic, uh, bullshit episode with uh, JVN.

Speaker 2: He is been doing shit. No.

Speaker: Fuck Dak Shepherd. I'm, I am on record as being very like, uh, uh, against Dak Shepherd. Yeah.

Speaker 2: I had his fans review bomb me.

Speaker: Yeah,

Speaker 2: because I dared to quote him. He has some really problematic quotes about like age gap relationships. Mm-hmm. He dated one of the Olsons when she was like 18 and he was like fully a grown man and be like, [00:54:00] she basically was more, was older than I was. Was she

Speaker: on the surface? I think I, I feel like I like Kristen Bell.

Speaker 2: Yeah. But when, I know, when you're,

Speaker: when you're like with somebody like that and, and I don't wanna judge somebody by their partner, you know what I mean? But they seem to really be in love and it makes me question things, you know?

Speaker 2: I'll give you a tidbit of information and I think is revealing.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: He is on record saying he had to decide if he wanted to date her.

If she was the type he wanted to date. Okay. Because she's the type of person that would stop if she saw like a dog on the side of the road. Mm-hmm. And so when they first got together, he was more famous than she was.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: And I, um, I don't, there's a lot of great quotes I'm sure of him talking about her, but there's a lot of interesting quotes like that one.

Mm-hmm. Where he's like, I didn't even know if I wanted to be with her. I had to think about it. I'm like, I think

Speaker: I remember hearing that. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 2: [00:55:00] What have you met her?

Speaker: Just from on the surface. She seems so out of his league.

Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

Speaker: In every way, not just like, looks like I, looks wise, can be many things, but just from every surface level thing that I have seen.

Talent wise, everything is just, it seems like he, uh, he definitely married way up.

Speaker 2: These are just our opinions. Please don't come at us over Deck Shepherd and Kristen Bell, please. I do not. Men who give off that Peter Pan Energy where it's like, it's, I'm so cute and quirky and funny, but like never grow up.

Mm-hmm. And wanna keep it up and still think it's cute when they're like 40.

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: I immediately am like, Hmm, I got questions. What are your views? Exactly. And obviously Zachary would have a few I don't agree with. Yeah. But that's, uh, that's it. On men and their boundaries. Yeah. We had a lot of shots at Famous Men tonight.

We had, we did Zachary Levi, Dak Shepherd, Jonah

Speaker: [00:56:00] Hill,

Speaker 2: Jonah Hill, whatever, NBA, I did not know his name. Michael

Speaker: Porter, Jr. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not know. I was like, I probably should. I don't, sorry, my, what's the, the Kiki Palmer. She's like, apologies to this man. I do not know this man. Yeah, it was Dick Cheney, which makes me laugh so hard.

That's the photo she couldn't recognize. Yeah. That was something

Speaker: that was, that was an episode. We were all over the place today. This is one of our, I think we say that a lot though. We're like, this is not like our normal episodes. No, I, these are completely cohesive and.

Speaker 2: Flawless. I actually do think though, not having a pre-show did, did a number on us because it definitely

Speaker: threw us off a bit.

Yeah, we

Speaker 2: got, usually we get our weird out.

Speaker: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys. Bye. Good day.