<v Speaker 1>Jay Katy and Josh one hundred.

<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about dating the world of.

<v Speaker 3>Dating online dating, all the hassles and all the headaches.

<v Speaker 3>I gotta listen to these two across from me all

<v Speaker 3>the time you do complaining about the world of dating.

<v Speaker 2>I've been sucked into. Love is blind. Listen to all those.

<v Speaker 3>Clowns talk about dating in Denver. There's all sorts of

<v Speaker 3>stories out this morning. How about the hot new trend

<v Speaker 3>in online dating called biobating?

<v Speaker 2>What is that?

<v Speaker 3>It's over selling your dating app bio in ways that

<v Speaker 3>don't quite hold up in real life. So I would

<v Speaker 3>imagine it's like getting on there and be like, I

<v Speaker 3>love hiking.

<v Speaker 2>I hike so much. I'm a NonStop hiker.

<v Speaker 3>And then you finally meet up with this person you

<v Speaker 3>liked that they hiked so much, and then you meet

<v Speaker 3>him and they're like, I'd never hiked.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all my bios sam six to one, So yeah, yeah, yeah, biobating.

<v Speaker 4>No, here's the thing.

<v Speaker 5>I actually was seeing a guy and he had hiking

<v Speaker 5>on his profile and he did not and I asked

<v Speaker 5>him about it.

<v Speaker 4>Remember I told you guys this.

<v Speaker 5>I asked, why did you put hiking if you don't

<v Speaker 5>actually go out into the mountains. And he was like,

<v Speaker 5>because it kind of you know, gets all.

<v Speaker 2>The bands it does.

<v Speaker 5>He said that the usually it's fit people who hike,

<v Speaker 5>So if you hike, then it's usually fit people he's

<v Speaker 5>matching with and he doesn't have to deal with the

<v Speaker 5>people who are not fit. And I was like, that's

<v Speaker 5>a jerk move, Like that is kind of a jerk

<v Speaker 5>move if you have going on a hike there. I

<v Speaker 5>don't like what he did. Why you're telling people that

<v Speaker 5>you like to have that lifestyle, which is a.

<v Speaker 3>Very it's a more gentle way of saying you don't

<v Speaker 3>want to be with.

<v Speaker 2>You child weight.

<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but still still like it doesn't I feel.

<v Speaker 2>Like it's more gentle approach to that.

<v Speaker 5>Like there's so much more than just the looks when

<v Speaker 5>it comes to online dating or dating in general. And

<v Speaker 5>I think that people this is giving them one more

<v Speaker 5>reason to just swipe left for little things that aren't

<v Speaker 5>gonna matter in five years. Like I get that people

<v Speaker 5>want to with like minded folks who are athletic and fit,

<v Speaker 5>and you have those habits instilled with you, but it's

<v Speaker 5>just like if you can connect with somebody on a

<v Speaker 5>personality basis a lot of people succeed that way, and

<v Speaker 5>so I think it's lying.

<v Speaker 4>I think lying in any form is wrong. So that's

<v Speaker 4>why I don't like it he lied to me.

<v Speaker 3>Some of the other things besides hiking is you can

<v Speaker 3>mislead people by saying that you love to travel, and

<v Speaker 3>then you get people hitting you up that love to.

<v Speaker 2>Travel, and you meet him, You're like, I don't like

<v Speaker 2>to travel.

<v Speaker 3>Adventurer is on there, entrepreneur is on there, a foody

<v Speaker 3>between them, Yeah, right, exactly, somebody put on there. Spontaneous

<v Speaker 3>is a big one. A lot of people put.

<v Speaker 2>I'm just a spontaneous person.

<v Speaker 3>I love just you know, dropping everything, traveling, and then

<v Speaker 3>you meet him and they're like, let's stay home and

<v Speaker 3>watch a movie.

<v Speaker 5>It's so funny, though, Like I look for things that

<v Speaker 5>I am connected to this person with. Like if somebody

<v Speaker 5>says they're a big traveler, like have your passport ready,

<v Speaker 5>I'm like, we'll miss me with that, because my job

<v Speaker 5>doesn't let me travel all over the world whenever I want,

<v Speaker 5>you know, so that's not my lifestyle. So I avoid

<v Speaker 5>those people. I don't get why they want to match

<v Speaker 5>with somebody who isn't going to fit their lifestyle.

<v Speaker 3>Do you guys have I probably know the answer to

<v Speaker 3>this dating fatigue?

<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I just like dating app fatigue.

<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have to delete them every so often, like periodically.

<v Speaker 5>I go on my little you know, online dating retreat kind.

<v Speaker 4>Of repro What is it like just to get.

<v Speaker 2>Away from you?

<v Speaker 5>Thank you? So I will delete the apps from my

<v Speaker 5>phone altogether, and then like a couple months later, I'll

<v Speaker 5>get them back on and get back into it. So yeah,

<v Speaker 5>it's definitely fatigue is a good word.

<v Speaker 2>We should take a quick break and come back.

<v Speaker 3>I know you guys got some examples of some fatigue

<v Speaker 3>that you've dealt with.

<v Speaker 2>Did you just go examples? That's how I feel, Katie

<v Speaker 2>turned into a horse there for a second.

<v Speaker 3>We will have the phone lines wide open as well

<v Speaker 3>if you want to commiserate with these two talk about

<v Speaker 3>your online dating mishaps, just dating in general.

<v Speaker 2>If you're fed up, you guys convent today. I'm fine

<v Speaker 2>with it. It's Friday.

<v Speaker 3>Do you guys find that the dating apps are very

<v Speaker 3>like superficial it's all surface level?

<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, it's ridiculous.

<v Speaker 5>Well, and it's not only that, and you know this

<v Speaker 5>is like people who listen to the show in the

<v Speaker 5>station know that I support It's Just Lunch.

<v Speaker 4>And this is why.

<v Speaker 5>It's because the apps are so superficial and they're so

<v Speaker 5>you know, they they're nobody's accountable on them. There are

<v Speaker 5>no rules, and I think that you know, with It's

<v Speaker 5>Just Lunch, they do the work for you and they

<v Speaker 5>find the people who are real and you don't have

<v Speaker 5>to figure out all the things about them before you

<v Speaker 5>meet them.

<v Speaker 4>The apps are the exact opposite of that.

<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and it's one of those things that like

<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like when you're applying for a job

<v Speaker 1>and all the automated bots take one look at at

<v Speaker 1>you and if you don't fit the bill perfectly, they

<v Speaker 1>skip by you, where like those dating apps, excuse me

<v Speaker 1>if they have like a picture of you that you

<v Speaker 1>don't that they don't like automatic you don't fit the bill.

<v Speaker 1>They don't know you at all, They don't know anything

<v Speaker 1>about you. You could be the most you know, nice person

<v Speaker 1>in the world or anything like that, and automatically it

<v Speaker 1>just because you don't check one box or something, you're gone.

<v Speaker 2>So they scan your face when you upload stuff.

<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh hell yeah, you know that yeah, they verify

<v Speaker 5>your ID or photos.

<v Speaker 4>They do what they can. But even that people can

<v Speaker 4>get by it. It's it's ridiculous. But I tell you, Jeremy,

<v Speaker 4>the biggest thing for me is it's like.

<v Speaker 5>Learning a whole new culture because when it comes to

<v Speaker 5>the online dating, I alluded to it, there are no rules.

<v Speaker 5>So when I first started dating in like the Metro area,

<v Speaker 5>I was dating over on the Western Slope and it

<v Speaker 5>wasn't as bad as far as people misrepresenting themselves or

<v Speaker 5>not being completely transparent. I will never forget the first

<v Speaker 5>time someone ghosted me. This story is so sad for me.

<v Speaker 5>It's just like it's very depressing. But we were messaging

<v Speaker 5>back and forth and then we planned on meeting at

<v Speaker 5>a place and he just stopped messaging me. And I

<v Speaker 5>was like, what's fine, we'll still meet. Maybe he's just

<v Speaker 5>bu see whatever. Da da da da da. And I

<v Speaker 5>was so new to this that I sat down at

<v Speaker 5>the restaurant and waited and waited and waited for this.

<v Speaker 2>Guy to come.

<v Speaker 4>And I even remember telling the server, no, we were talking,

<v Speaker 4>it's fine, he's gonna show up.

<v Speaker 5>And I could see them like talk about me in

<v Speaker 5>the kitchen and they felt so bad. They felt so

<v Speaker 5>bad for me that this manager came out and calmped

<v Speaker 5>my meal and then gave me a gift card because

<v Speaker 5>he felt so bad that I was still because I

<v Speaker 5>was naive, I didn't know those were the rules. I

<v Speaker 5>was like, we're going to show up because we said

<v Speaker 5>we were going to show up, and that's what people do.

<v Speaker 5>But on the apps, the niceties are gone and people

<v Speaker 5>don't care about your feelings. They don't care about your

<v Speaker 5>time that you spend, and so it's like you really

<v Speaker 5>have to get used to that.

<v Speaker 4>You have to get used.

<v Speaker 5>To being treated like scum, almost like.

<v Speaker 2>A gift card. I know, like for the next four weekends.

<v Speaker 5>Thing, I couldn't go back to that restaurant ever again,

<v Speaker 5>and me so sad, like it.

<v Speaker 4>Just that sucks.

<v Speaker 2>It was her favorite McDonald's. She had that gift card.

<v Speaker 2>But use you coasted that gift card?

<v Speaker 5>No, well they have multiple restaurants, so I just didn't

<v Speaker 5>go back to that restaurant.

<v Speaker 2>But no, And this.

<v Speaker 5>Happens quite often to where it's just like people will

<v Speaker 5>get you excited.

<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of love bombing that goes into.

<v Speaker 1>Way love bombing is insane anyway that is so love

<v Speaker 1>bombing is where you meet someone and I will say,

<v Speaker 1>for me, men kind of have the tendency to do that,

<v Speaker 1>and I think before I knew what love bombing was,

<v Speaker 1>I tended to do it a little bit. I get

<v Speaker 1>so excited when I meet someone new, and I'm like,

<v Speaker 1>I want to give you the world like I want

<v Speaker 1>to be. But you have to temper those expectations. And

<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget. A girl that I dated for a

<v Speaker 1>while she told me she was like, hey, when we

<v Speaker 1>first met, like, you came on pretty strong. And I

<v Speaker 1>was like, well, what do you mean, I just liked you.

<v Speaker 1>She's like, dude, you promised me like the world. And

<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't know that

<v Speaker 1>I was doing that. Where you meet a girl, in

<v Speaker 1>my instance, you meet a girl, you get so excited

<v Speaker 1>by the way she is or what you think she wants,

<v Speaker 1>and you start learning about her favorite little things, and

<v Speaker 1>then you just go one right off the bat. And apparently,

<v Speaker 1>now that's which is so funny because that's interest dude, dude,

<v Speaker 1>that's that was my thought process as well. But if

<v Speaker 1>you come on too strong, the women that you meet

<v Speaker 1>nowadays can be like, hey, you got to play a

<v Speaker 1>little hard to get or something because that's too much

<v Speaker 1>too soon, which, dude, I had a very hard lesson

<v Speaker 1>about that, because that like broke my heart learning that.

<v Speaker 1>When I first found out about that that, I was

<v Speaker 1>just like over the moon for this person, and she

<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, calm down.

<v Speaker 2>Opposite like thinking, isn't it.

<v Speaker 3>It's like you have interest in someone acting like Maroon five,

<v Speaker 3>So you start learning everything about Maroon five and you're like, whoa, whoa,

<v Speaker 3>whoa dude, Yes, you literally have to act like about

<v Speaker 3>some Matchbox twenty. First you have to act like you

<v Speaker 3>don't want them, which is same to me. It makes

<v Speaker 3>no That's another thing that you have to learn, dum,

<v Speaker 3>I love you so much, act like you don't want them.

<v Speaker 1>It's the polar opposite. It makes no sense, O, Katie.

<v Speaker 1>You should explain that. Because I'm cluely, I.

<v Speaker 5>Can definitely give you a specific scenario here, because for me,

<v Speaker 5>it's more when guys start talking about your future together

<v Speaker 5>on date one like Christmas, I told you about that

<v Speaker 5>how I went on that date with that guy, and

<v Speaker 5>he's already talked about well for Christmas, I like to

<v Speaker 5>go back home and meet family, like I'd love for

<v Speaker 5>you to come meet my family back in Pennsylvania.

<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, well, we're just getting.

<v Speaker 5>Coffee now, Like why are you already talking about six

<v Speaker 5>months down the road.

<v Speaker 4>And in a lot of that, like a.

<v Speaker 5>Lot of guys, you know, And here's the thing, the

<v Speaker 5>old adage, guys will say whatever they want to do

<v Speaker 5>your taxes with you, right, Like this has always been

<v Speaker 5>a thing, but now it's like there's no there's no

<v Speaker 5>rules to it, there's no boundaries.

<v Speaker 4>It just can go and go and go.

<v Speaker 1>And even like I've even found out, like now that

<v Speaker 1>we have texting and everything, you can't reply too quickly,

<v Speaker 1>or you can't if you start to seem over zealous

<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And that is it's confusing to me

<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times, I'm look, I'm a millennial.

<v Speaker 1>Ja calls me out for it all the time, Like

<v Speaker 1>you just happen to have your phone in your hand

<v Speaker 1>and you see that they text you and you reply,

<v Speaker 1>but no, you have to wait two to three hours

<v Speaker 1>now so that you make sure you don't sound too interested,

<v Speaker 1>or to make sure that you're busy, Like there are

<v Speaker 1>so many things.

<v Speaker 2>That rules brain damage. Oh my gosh, it's rules, all this,

<v Speaker 2>and I just can't even comprehend it right now.

<v Speaker 1>Don't get divorced. That's you love Nicole the best you can.

<v Speaker 2>She might leave me. I don't know.

<v Speaker 4>You don't want to be out here, jar, you don't

<v Speaker 4>want to be I would actually.

<v Speaker 1>Love to see you out here, like just to see

<v Speaker 1>what you would be like. I just I would be

<v Speaker 1>fascinated to see you on this.

<v Speaker 2>Getting married, like within two months.

<v Speaker 5>This is so easy that can't happen.

<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'd do, but it wouldn't be good.

<v Speaker 5>Not only that, but I think that the online dating,

<v Speaker 5>you know, idea, opened up the world for a lot

<v Speaker 5>of people who just like to mess with others. The

<v Speaker 5>cat fishing, I mean, that's something we didn't talk about yet.

<v Speaker 5>The cat fishing where people, you know, they represent themselves,

<v Speaker 5>or at least they say this is what I look like,

<v Speaker 5>and it's nothing like that.

<v Speaker 4>But it's even outside of looks. I had this date

<v Speaker 4>with this guy.

<v Speaker 5>We were supposed to meet at a coffee shop, and

<v Speaker 5>while I was there, he was giving me the play

<v Speaker 5>by play on something that was happening to him, and

<v Speaker 5>in that like twenty minutes, he told me that he posed.

<v Speaker 4>For a new nude calendar.

<v Speaker 5>He was, Oh god, he was a volunteer firefighter and

<v Speaker 5>he just had to go to the hospital for a

<v Speaker 5>kidney infection and had to cancel our date.

<v Speaker 4>And I was like, what did you just do to me?

<v Speaker 4>Like so many things. I don't even know where to.

<v Speaker 2>Go with this. I haven't even ordered my drink here,

<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

<v Speaker 4>Even meet him. This is just all over tech.

<v Speaker 2>You kind of want to see messaging, that's the thing.

<v Speaker 5>There is obviously a reason we matched, you know, but

<v Speaker 5>it's still like people will mess with you just to

<v Speaker 5>mess with you, and that's a little disheartening.

<v Speaker 2>If anyone wants to sound off about this, I see

<v Speaker 2>we have Aaron on the line. He wants to comment.

<v Speaker 3>Three O three six nine mix three oh three six

<v Speaker 3>nine one, sixteen forty nine. If you have any thoughts

<v Speaker 3>about the world of dating right now in Denver slash Colorado,

<v Speaker 3>which is a big thing right now because Love is

<v Speaker 3>Blind is all focused on Denver right now, and everybody's

<v Speaker 3>all fired up because the dating scene sucks. Here, well,

<v Speaker 3>tell us about it. Three ZHO three six nine one

<v Speaker 3>sixteen forty nine. Here's Aaron hi Aeron.

<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show. Hi, good morning, Good morning to you.

<v Speaker 2>So what are your thoughts?

<v Speaker 6>Okay, so I emphasize with you, guys, I'm so sorry

<v Speaker 6>it's so hard. Uh, but I'm a success story. So

<v Speaker 6>I met my husband on Match. But I we joke

<v Speaker 6>because I went on like nine and fifty two dates, right,

<v Speaker 6>Holy cray, I'm not joking you.

<v Speaker 2>That's the actual number. Yeah, no, no.

<v Speaker 6>I did. I didn't count, but I'm.

<v Speaker 2>Just pily crap. Does it keep track?

<v Speaker 6>Okay? Well, side story on this one. I went on

<v Speaker 6>a date with someone same person a couple of years apart,

<v Speaker 6>and we didn't realize it until like halfway through the date,

<v Speaker 6>and it was just got really awkward, and I was like,

<v Speaker 6>oh my god, I've done this before. I literally dated

<v Speaker 6>every in Denver.

<v Speaker 3>You're like looking across, You're like, I know this guy story.

<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, we've been here, We've done this.

<v Speaker 1>I know.

<v Speaker 6>So nine hundred and fifty second date, my husband's first date.

<v Speaker 6>He was still married. Everything on paper looked so bad

<v Speaker 6>on this for this guy unmatch dot Com. But he

<v Speaker 6>was so handsome and it was my I'm a teacher,

<v Speaker 6>I was spring break. I was like, I'm bored I

<v Speaker 6>could meet up with somebody, so we went and got

<v Speaker 6>coffee and it ever since then, it was, it's been inseparable.

<v Speaker 6>Like I'm one of those people who are like, oh

<v Speaker 6>my god, I talked to you this week, like why

<v Speaker 6>are you texting me? I wanted to be with him

<v Speaker 6>all the time we've been married. I know, we've been

<v Speaker 6>married ten years now. There is hope. And my dad

<v Speaker 6>would always tell me, he's like, just pick one. It's

<v Speaker 6>like picking a piece of to make it work.

<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's easier said than done, right.

<v Speaker 6>But he yeah, But he loved Brandon, so my been

<v Speaker 6>so so much. And we actually got married on Father's Day,

<v Speaker 6>like it was. It was fast, you guys, like I

<v Speaker 6>think back to this and I'm like, this is crazy.

<v Speaker 6>We got engaged a year, almost a year to the

<v Speaker 6>day from our first date, and then we ended up

<v Speaker 6>getting married three months later. But my dad was diagnosed

<v Speaker 6>with cancer, so and he really wanted to walk me

<v Speaker 6>down the aisle. So we got married in three months

<v Speaker 6>on Father's Day, and my dad absolutely adored him. It

<v Speaker 6>was like his biggest bucket.

<v Speaker 3>But then again, like Aaron, like your dad's situation to

<v Speaker 3>the to the side, just.

<v Speaker 2>A little bit like were you.

<v Speaker 3>Were you that quick because maybe both of you were

<v Speaker 3>also just fed up and you're like, let's do it,

<v Speaker 3>let's get it done.

<v Speaker 2>I found a good one.

<v Speaker 6>Is just never going to settle. No, I was never

<v Speaker 6>well because when we met, my dad wasn't sick yet.

<v Speaker 6>My dad got sick after it. But I was never

<v Speaker 6>going to settle. I was like, I can't stand a person.

<v Speaker 6>I never thought I'd end up getting married. Really, I

<v Speaker 6>was like, yes, I wanted it, but I was like,

<v Speaker 6>this is never gonna happen. So uh but yeah, I

<v Speaker 6>did it all the time, and it was and I

<v Speaker 6>would take those breaks, just like Katie was saying, because

<v Speaker 6>I just it's exhausting, it's so hard.

<v Speaker 3>You said you guys were opposites, though, but you just

<v Speaker 3>landed on him because he's pretty.

<v Speaker 6>He was very pretty. He had messaged me otherwise I

<v Speaker 6>would have never came across him. He was very he

<v Speaker 6>is very pretty. He was he's still pretty. He was

<v Speaker 6>a smoker. He was divorced or not divorce. He was separated,

<v Speaker 6>living in his parents' basement. I was and had a kid.

<v Speaker 6>I was like what is like what? But he was

<v Speaker 6>really good looking, Like.

<v Speaker 2>Why not spring break?

<v Speaker 6>I actually had another date after him, and he will

<v Speaker 6>never let me live this down. He's like, you, we

<v Speaker 6>started out on a lie. You told me you're meeting

<v Speaker 6>your girlfriends. I was like, I meant someone to go

<v Speaker 6>to the Rio and I love me a Rio Marcarrita.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you're shut up. You're in your mom's basement. Yeah,

<v Speaker 2>shut exactly. Smoke. Hey, so how long have you guys

<v Speaker 2>been together?

<v Speaker 6>Now we've been together for eleven years, married ten Good

<v Speaker 6>for you? Really, Like it's we've gotten through a lot

<v Speaker 6>of hard, hard stuff and we we make it work.

<v Speaker 6>It's it's really it's really great.

<v Speaker 2>And do you guys have stuff in common? Now?

<v Speaker 6>I would imagine yeah, I mean and we did. We

<v Speaker 6>totally did. But it was just like those big things.

<v Speaker 6>I was like, now I would never date a smoker.

<v Speaker 5>And smoking, Like I say no to so many smokers,

<v Speaker 5>And now you just kind of open up my mind

<v Speaker 5>a little bit.

<v Speaker 4>Maybe I need to know.

<v Speaker 1>You can always quit.

<v Speaker 2>So this was on match? She said, this was on Match.

<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

<v Speaker 2>Isn't it funny?

<v Speaker 3>Like We've talked to multiple people's where they're like, they

<v Speaker 3>have your same kind of like success story, but they're

<v Speaker 3>almost feel guilty when they say, like it was a

<v Speaker 3>dating app and it worked, and it's like, isn't it

<v Speaker 3>funny that you have that stigma, like it actually worked.

<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry for me, I know, but it didn't work

<v Speaker 6>for like nine hundred and fifty one of them.

<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, you're right, yeah.

<v Speaker 6>For sure. Yeah, but I'm sorry, guys, I know it's

<v Speaker 6>so exhausting. I feel for sure.

<v Speaker 2>Katie's going on a two year dry spell right now.

<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know, and I'm not even joking two

<v Speaker 3>years ago when we.

<v Speaker 6>Were older when we met. I was I was thirty

<v Speaker 6>when I met him.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, Katie's way past. Stop.

<v Speaker 1>You're giving me hope right now, Erin, I'm feeling really

<v Speaker 1>good right now too.

<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Aaron, thank you for calling in and sharing your story.

<v Speaker 2>What a great call. Thank you very sweet bye bye bye.

<v Speaker 2>That was good man. That's guess that actually works you guys.

<v Speaker 4>It gives me a little hope.

<v Speaker 2>It's good to be married. I know you.

<v Speaker 5>I do not want to be I text my wife

<v Speaker 5>right now and tell right, don't mess it up to

<v Speaker 5>don't leave me, don't mess it.

<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're probably right,